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Scam Artists and Scalp Fungus: An Unlikely Path to Success
The digital era has birthed a new class of con artists, fraudsters who construct elaborate facades online and infiltrate our most trusted institutions. From LinkedIn phantoms to fraudulent medical professionals, the audacity of these deceptions reveals uncomfortable truths about our collective vulnerability.
Consider Jackson Simmons, "the most fake man on LinkedIn" – an entirely fabricated entrepreneur amassing thousands of followers with AI-generated photos and motivational platitudes. His nonexistent company garnered real press coverage and job offers, demonstrating how easily digital smoke and mirrors can manufacture authority. Then there's the TikTok polyglot claiming fluency in 38 languages who, when exposed by native speakers, defended herself by reframing her deception as "language fluidity, not fluency." These cases represent just the surface of a disturbing trend.
More alarming are fraudsters who infiltrate essential services. We explore the case of Dr. Selina J, a cosmetologist with a YouTube channel about scalp fungus who successfully rebranded herself as a neuroscience expert financial coach for cryptocurrency firms. Even more disturbing is Shannon Womack, who posed as a nurse under multiple aliases at Pennsylvania hospitals, administering care to unsuspecting patients with completely fabricated credentials before her eventual arrest.
Transportation isn't immune either – a 35-year-old Florida man channeled Frank Abagnale's "Catch Me If You Can" energy, impersonating airline crew members across seven different carriers to score over 120 free flights before authorities caught up with him. His elaborate scheme included counterfeit badges, IDs and security credentials that granted him access to restricted airport areas.
Breaking from our fraud exposé, we take a musical detour to pay tribute to Ozzy Osbourne, the Prince of Darkness himself, who recently passed at 76. Despite his bat-biting reputation, we celebrate his musical legacy and the surprising tenderness in songs like "Mama I'm Coming Home," proving that even in darkness, there's room for vulnerability.
What makes these stories particularly relevant is how they reflect our changing relationship with trust in the digital age. As verification becomes simultaneously more crucial and more challenging, we're forced to question: In a world where anyone can fabricate credentials, expertise, and entire personas, how do we determine what's real?
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Good morning. Welcome to the Ann Levine Show. I'm Ann Levine. It's August 5th 2025. That's Michael over there.
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Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 2:And he once told Jimmy Page that their music lacked tenderness. And which was true. And a ballad.
Speaker 3:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:So Jimmy Page went off and came back with this masterpiece, the Rainsong, and I just want to say a few things about George Harrison.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 2:The quiet Beatle.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He gave us something okay.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, one of the greatest songs ever.
Speaker 2:Well, sinatra called it the greatest love song of the last 50 years. Now when he said that that would have been since 1919.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, that included all of his, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And all of his peers. Yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:He gave us the most streamed beatles song of all time. Here comes the sun yep while my guitar gently weeps.
Speaker 3:Okay, tax man, oh yeah, they got a little trouble for that one too.
Speaker 2:Funky little revenge song about being famous and broke.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Within you and without you, and that was just the Beatles stuff. Solo he gave us my Sweet Lord.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What is life? Isn't it a pity All things must pass? And then, of course, he mortgaged his home to make sure Monty Python's Life of Brian got made.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the world's most expensive movie ticket.
Speaker 2:That's what Eric Idle called it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because George was asked why did you put up the money for this?
Speaker 2:And he says because I wanted to see it, so yeah, he also made Time Bandits.
Speaker 3:Yep, which is kind of another, you know, basically Monty Python sort of thing.
Speaker 2:Well, he made With Now and I.
Speaker 3:I know, isn't that wonderful, which is why I said yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, exactly Is coming up, yeah.
Speaker 2:If you haven't seen the film Withnail and I.
Speaker 3:Oh man.
Speaker 2:Do it immediately. You are really missing something.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He made Mona Lisa and, unfortunately, he made Shanghai Surprise. Oh, that was a great movie. Oh, come on. That was a film so bad that Sean Penn and Madonna could never make. Can you believe those two were married?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:They could never. Well, you don't remember that.
Speaker 3:No, I don't know how it happened. Is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I don't either, except I remember the helicopters.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:Flying over their ceremony to try to get footage. Oh, okay, oh, that was a big thing I mean they were stupid and they didn't have it on a secret island with the Cloonies or whatever.
Speaker 3:And I agree with you, shanghai Surprise was a pretty stupid movie.
Speaker 2:It's the worst. They never made eye contact. It's what ruined their marriage. They should have done it sooner.
Speaker 3:I don't think, I don't think Sean Penn knows how to make eye contact.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say no. I mean he may not know how to make eye contact with other human beings.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, right but in films. He certainly does Exactly, yeah, when he's not acting Right Right On his own, he's not an eye contact guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He's not a Anyway. He's a hermit Well, he's, yeah, he's a hermit. Well, he's, yeah, he's a lunatic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, and the worst writer ever. He, but george harris is very wordy, isn't he? Oh?
Speaker 2:no, he's not wordy, he's senile okay george harrison brought indian classical music into western. He's the one that brought the sitar in Right, okay, and he formed the Traveling Wilburys.
Speaker 3:Exactly One of my favorite things he's ever done.
Speaker 2:Which was supposed to be a joke, mm-hmm, but ended up including Bob Dylan, roy Orbison, tom Petty and Jeff Lynn yeah, and George.
Speaker 3:Harrison.
Speaker 2:All of them brilliant. Now here is an interesting thing that I didn't know and that Michael doesn't know.
Speaker 1:Blackbird and Yesterday are misattributed to him oh.
Speaker 2:Those songs were both written by Paul Okay, which I didn't know but you know, here comes the sun Yesterday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I thought Yesterday George had done.
Speaker 1:I thought Blackbird.
Speaker 3:George had done. Ah, all right, so yeah, I thought yesterday.
Speaker 2:George had done. I thought Blackbird George had done. Ah, alright, so yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, it was a long time ago and we were pretty young.
Speaker 2:We weren't born.
Speaker 3:My first record, beatles 45, when I was five, or yeah, four or five.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I had a little record player that you could put a 45 in and then close the lid on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those were insane, those things yeah and, oh my, I traveled with that thing, and then you could walk around with it.
Speaker 3:Yep, I walked around with my little record boom box playing hey Jude and Revolution, because that was what was on the other side. Yeah yeah, apple Records.
Speaker 2:My first 45 was Rocky Raccoon. Oh, and it wasn't because I don't know, I was, you know, maybe a year old when I bought that. It wasn't because I knew and liked that song. Okay, it was because I went to Newberry's. It was a five and dime back when there was a literal five and dime, right, yeah. And I was picking out a 45 and I couldn't find anything I knew and liked, and I was only one. So what did I know at?
Speaker 3:that time Right, what did you know? Yeah?
Speaker 2:But I knew the Beatles were the thing, so I picked up that 45.
Speaker 3:I see Okay.
Speaker 2:And I wish I still had it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I used to know it was on the B side. I don't recall, but anyway. So George Harrisonrison led zeppelin. Thank you everybody. Do you remember sienna blue from last week, the ai influencer? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah who pissed off actual people by drawing real checks for promoting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely, I remember her.
Speaker 2:Right. Well, today is part two of our fraud dig.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:So real people made up lives and total credential chaos, fakers, fraud, frauds and phonies.
Speaker 3:okay, yeah, all right, that's who they are jackson simmons, the most fake man on linkedin.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love that. He's the's the most faked man, Uh-huh. So you know scammy motivational posts about pivoting hustle porn. Oh yeah, Side gigs right Founder journeys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all this gig economy stuff yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, Jackson Simmons was the founder of a lot of that, literally Of the scams Thousands of followers. Well, he did. Yes, a whole scam.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right invites press coverage job offers, except none of it was real.
Speaker 3:Oh man.
Speaker 2:Simmons didn't exist. Oh my God, the photos are AI, the company was fake and it was all smoke and mirrors, wow. So this is another one. This is a real fake guy hired by real, real fake companies right to deliver real fake leadership lessons. So money was earned, a lot of of money.
Speaker 3:It really is. That is so messed up it sure is you really do have to be aware. Yeah, you have to be aware that it's out there and, oh my God, so many of the photographs that are going through social media now, you know the cute animals and a kitten riding on the back of a tiger or whatever. They look good, they are great looking photographs. None of them are real.
Speaker 2:Well, I sent you one of three kittens on the subway in Manhattan with hats on, yep, you know, with little outfits. Yeah, of course it's not real, it's adorable.
Speaker 3:It's fun to look at, Very cute, yes, but I mean, people are passing off all kinds of things that you know they claim are real when they put them out there Because they want likes. Well, it's just, that's all it is to its like-firming. It's just insane to me it's so bizarre all it is to.
Speaker 2:It's like farming. It's just insane. It's so bizarre. Now here's one of my favorite things, and I wish I had done this, except, well, tiktok has a fake polyglot. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:This person claiming fluency in 38 languages? Okay, and they give paid appearances. They're selling language courses and promising you native pronunciation Okay.
Speaker 3:Who's this person's name?
Speaker 2:I don't have her name.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's a her Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fake polyglot pretender. Right 38 languages, and so what happened, of course, is that native speakers started quizzing her and she universally failed. Now, this is someone who's been doing and who should be in an improv troupe, because it wasn't that. She was just saying oh, I speak 38 languages.
Speaker 3:She was pretending to Exactly yeah, just saying, oh, I speak 38 languages. She was pretending to exactly yeah, and she was able to like do um.
Speaker 2:I mean they used to call it when, when I was in improv gibberish uh-huh you know, and they'd say, okay, do whatever language, right? Um well, she could do a zillion of them, and so her defense, right? When she was brought up on being fraudulent. She said I was performing language fluidity, not fluency.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, and yes, language fluidity.
Speaker 2:And, as one language professor put it, it's easy to fake being a polyglot, since most channels target beginners. Uh-huh yeah, language channels.
Speaker 3:Right right.
Speaker 2:So yeah, if you can put two or three words together or a few phrases together, I mean I can fake well regardless. I mean I can fake well regardless. I'm good at this.
Speaker 3:There's a guy I follow on YouTube who's got bazillion languages and a lot of them nearly forgotten, but he is a young man, he lives in new york city but, uh, national geographic and other other outfits out there have sent him to places, and one of the last ones I saw is they sent him to northern scotland to pick up and learn um, oh, what, what the heck is the name of it? It starts with a D. It's an ancient Scottish language that is still used by the farmers and stuff in northern Scotland Druid, no, it's something like that and he went up there and just started chatting people with it and they're blown away Because here's some kid from new york city who's come up here and he's speaking our language, a language that you know 75 other people speak. That's it. It's really wild. It's very cool. I've seen him do it in. Uh, he goes around to restaurants in new york city like the chinese restaurants and the Vietnamese restaurants all these different places and he will order perfectly in their language, and the people are always blown away.
Speaker 3:It's really very cool.
Speaker 2:Well, there's someone that I follow and who knows, she could be AI, I don't know anymore, but she speaks fluent Vietnamese and she goes to nail salons, ah, and restaurants.
Speaker 3:Right, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:And tells you exactly what's being said.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, it's funny With this guy he went to. He was in Palermo and he was talking to people, to waiters and waitresses at the restaurant, and they got mad at him because he wasn't speaking italian. He was speaking sicilian.
Speaker 2:oh my gosh, yeah and uh wait, is this the same guy it sounds, I mean she's a gal, but how many languages does he speak?
Speaker 3:I. You know what I'd have to look. This sounds insane. And he's speaking french in I mean italian in what, like several dialects uh, well, see, sicilian is the one he knows the best so that's what he ran with um thinking that was you know that might cover most of italy, which it really does not, not at all yeah at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not at all. Still very problematic in New York to this day with your rigotte and mozzarella and gabagoo and all of that.
Speaker 3:But anyway, let's see, I'm going to tell you he's got a Wikipedia page. This guy, yeah, lovely, wikipedia page. Oh, this guy, yeah, lovely, yeah, lovely, trying to find out how many languages it says that's not easy to do, by the way. No, it's not easy to even get To make a Wikipedia page.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's not. Or to keep Well while you're looking for that.
Speaker 3:I've got another. He's Ashkenazi, by the way.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 3:Grew up in New York City, speak in English in an Ashkenazi family.
Speaker 2:Right, so this is a Jewish polyglot, yeah, who speaks weird dialects. You know, there is one thing that I do know to be true the more languages you speak, the easier it is to pick them up. And that may seem completely bonkers and counterintuitive, but it's true, it is true.
Speaker 3:However, you have to. Actually, by the time you get to a certain point in your life, you have to have two Right or you're not going to learn another Right. It's just, I mean, there's something in your brain that kind of shuts off that makes it. I mean, you can learn a new language when you're older, but it is so much harder, yeah, so.
Speaker 2:Well, I was really lucky because I was put into language tutoring from the time I was five. That's when my French language tutoring started and that part of me got switched on. It doesn't get switched on for everyone. My sister had the same tutor switched on. It doesn't get switched on for everyone. My sister had the same tutor and she could never manage.
Speaker 2:You know, she couldn't manage, but anyway I got another person for you, okay, and our fakers, phonies and frauds dr selena j. Now I could tell you from that name that this person isn't actually what they claim to be Okay. But Dr Selina Jay branded herself a neuroscience expert, turned financial wellness coach.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:And she has been lecturing for prominent crypto firms across the country. Okay, and then it all unraveled.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:She doesn't hold any advanced degrees, but she's a licensed cosmetologist from Nebraska. Oh, right on With a YouTube channel about scalp fungus. Oh my God. Oh my God, I know Awesome.
Speaker 3:That is awesome, and she's out there leading the world. Yeah, here's what to do with your money. Yep With cryptocurrencies Wow.
Speaker 2:So yeah, oh, my God.
Speaker 3:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Everyone's got a front. It's amazing. Here's another guy. I love this guy because I actually know this. I know this whole jam right here.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Prince Khalid Al Qatari.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh. So a man showed up front row at Paris Fashion Week claiming to be Prince Khalid Khalid Al-Qatari.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Complete with bodyguards, a crest and comped hotel suites.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:And until.
Speaker 3:So funny that the prince, who would be richer than Croesus, needs a comped room Right. Well, I mean, they're pretty funny to me.
Speaker 2:But that's what they do. I know I mean that's what's so frustrating is the people who don't need it get the comps.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But someone Googled this sash he was wearing and this crest.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:And it's available on Amazon.
Speaker 3:Oh, right on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ha ha ha. So that's how he was brought down.
Speaker 3:Oh, that is so funny. The internet is relentless.
Speaker 2:It really is.
Speaker 3:Oh man, If you're out there and you've gone viral on a video and people don't know who you are, they will find you. Oh, absolutely they will find you, it's yeah, and they will find out where you work everything. And yeah, it's yeah, and they will find out where you work everything. And yeah, it's just insane.
Speaker 2:Well, my first husband, an Israeli guy, had a very close friend who came to the United States to study at the CIA, the Culinary Institute of America.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:And he's now a very well-known chef in Israel. He's quite famous, His name is Ezra Kedem, but he was a total and still is, I'm sure, a total clown jokester.
Speaker 3:I like those biscuits. By the way, you ever have those Kedem biscuits. Oh, yes, the tea biscuits yeah, they're good.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a whole story. His name, that's not his real last name, but anyway he's got a fake, he's a faker too. Oh, totally Well, that's my point, and so my husband used to drive for my dad that's one of the many things he did and my dad had a massive black Mercedes and he would go pick Ezra up and they would go have lunch together and he told everyone that he was a Saudi prince and that his driver was coming to pick him up.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:And so everyone in his class believed that he was this Israeli kid. He was like 23.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Was the Saudi prince.
Speaker 3:Yes, of course he is.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so I know that scam.
Speaker 3:How about that?
Speaker 2:Here's another one. Here's Barbara Santini.
Speaker 3:Good old Babs, I remember her.
Speaker 2:Well, she is an often quoted media outlet psychologist.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Trained at Oxford.
Speaker 3:In New York.
Speaker 2:That would be hilarious. That would be right, I mean, there's a community college there, right? No, there's not. It's not big enough.
Speaker 3:Well, owasco is around there somewhere. Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:Oxford is right next to Norwich. I mean, norwich doesn't have a college, no, oxford is. I think Oxford has a blinking light.
Speaker 3:Well, no, they have a theater in Oxford. No, Are you sure?
Speaker 2:Oh honey, 100% Okay.
Speaker 3:Well, they used to.
Speaker 2:No, I'll bet they did All right.
Speaker 3:My mom used to go to one.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm just saying that. Oxford, new York, it makes Dennis look like a metropolis.
Speaker 3:I agree, most of those places there do.
Speaker 2:Well, barbara Santini right. This Oxford, whether it's the UK or upstate New York educated psychologist specializing in relationships and trauma, turns out was never vetted, held no advanced degrees and worked selling sex toys online oh my god yep oh, good old babs. I never liked her, so we have yeah well, we have the, the nail, the, the scalp fungus therapist and the sex toys therapist oh wow.
Speaker 3:Out there just in front of everybody just leading the way. That is hilarious.
Speaker 2:Here's one that ended up in major trouble. So lest you're sitting there thinking, hmm, I too sell sex toys online. What can I parlay this into?
Speaker 3:That's right how can you make it better for you?
Speaker 2:A woman secured multiple state government jobs in Colorado as a psychologist and she had entirely fraudulent credentials and worked for years Another Babs entirely fraudulent credentials and worked for years another babs, but she worked for years for the government now that doesn't seem that crazy right now. No, no, no, not I mean I certainly feel qualified to do most government jobs oh, yeah, yeah at the moment, but she worked for years. Oh, yeah, at the moment, but she worked for years. But she's now serving four years.
Speaker 3:Oh, good, good for her.
Speaker 2:So yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then we have Shannon Womack, a fake nurse.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 2:Yeah In Pennsylvania, who posed under multiple aliases Wow and bogus, nursing credentials at hospitals across Pennsylvania treated patients. Charted notes administered care.
Speaker 3:I cannot believe that Wow. And she was ultimately arrested good, oh my god I hope so doing wow you know michael over there hello I have heard Ann Levine Show is the most educational show on radio. It is indeed yeah Well.
Speaker 2:I wonder what you? I mean, you're the.
Speaker 3:What brilliant thing you'd like to find out about today?
Speaker 2:You are the educator.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:That's what everyone calls you, Michael the Educator.
Speaker 3:That's right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Hello, hello. Could you educate us Sure?
Speaker 3:Today we're going to travel back in time and I'm going to tell you something that I found to be really puzzling. But you know, it's not earth-shaking or anything, but it is puzzling to me August 1st 1981. Let's travel back in time.
Speaker 2:I remember it like it was tomorrow.
Speaker 3:That's right, that is the day that MTV went live.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and many people, because this is a typical trivia question. Many people know what the very first song was that played on MTV, the very first video, and it was Video Killed, the Radio Star, which is brilliant. I think that's the greatest start ever, yeah, however, I looked at the first 50 songs that were played on MTV and I found four songs by the same band in the first 50. Four videos.
Speaker 2:I'm going to try a guess at this.
Speaker 3:Okay, duran, duran, no, uh, it's a little or it's a little early, maybe a little early for them. Actually, 1981, you go a little, you know, 85, maybe that would. But uh, yeah, we're a little more rock and roll-ish Dire Straits. Also not there.
Speaker 2:Okay, I give up.
Speaker 3:Okay, I will tell you that the cars are on there. Lee Rittenhour, remember Lee Rittenhour? No, okay, well, they're on there twice. I don't know what that is right okay, pat benatar uh-huh, on there a couple times. Rod stewart three out of the first 50 videos were rod stewart. Wow, um, but the one who? Who wins with four, four videos? Now we're talking Fleetwood Mac 38 Special, rod Stewart, iron Maiden, the Pretenders, phil Collins, robert Palmer Out of all of those, reo Speedwagon had four songs out of the first 50 videos on MTV.
Speaker 2:No way.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Can you remind us, oh Educator, what some of those songs were?
Speaker 3:Yes, Keep On Loving you. That was a big one. Oh man, Take it On the Run, Uh-huh. That was the ninth song they played. By the way, Take it On the Run, Uh-huh. That was the ninth song they played. By the way, Take it on the run. And then the 17th song. So eight songs later they played another REO Speedwagon. That was Keep On Loving you. Then there's Don't Let Him Go, which I don't know. That song at all, I don't either. And one called Tough Guys. Don't know that one.
Speaker 3:I also don't know that one, however, four of them, I mean the who is on here twice right sticks is on here once. I don't know, I don't, I was gonna.
Speaker 2:I was gonna actually say robert palmer baker street is on here wow that jerry rafferty song.
Speaker 3:I love that song. That was one of the biggest songs of the 80s. But four songs, four videos dedicated to REO Speedwagon Unbelievable Out of the first 50.
Speaker 2:That just blows my mind, Anyway. So yeah, you learn something you do and thank you for that lesson. I really enjoyed that one. Okay, I enjoyed that one. Okay, I enjoyed that one. Well, from fakers to flyers, I'm going to take you now.
Speaker 3:Flyers.
Speaker 2:Flyers.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Flyers.
Speaker 3:Flyers.
Speaker 2:Flyers.
Speaker 3:That's how you would say that. Well, I thought you would say flowers.
Speaker 2:Flowers and flyers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, flares.
Speaker 2:Flyers. You know, Frank Abagnale right.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the Catch Me If you Can, guy.
Speaker 2:Exactly, he pretended to be a Pan Am pilot.
Speaker 3:Right, a surgeon, I mean, there were all kinds of things that he pretended to be. They made a great movie of it, catch me, if you can, with Leonardo DiCaprio, yeah but I read the book years ago, back when I was fairly new, and yeah, I read it several times actually, because it was fascinating to me how this guy could do that.
Speaker 2:I know, and not just an airline pilot. I mean, he pretended to be a surgeon. Yeah, he, I mean he was the original.
Speaker 3:You know, tiktok, 38 languages guy yep, exactly, I think he did a stint as a lawyer. I mean, he did everything. Plus he learned how to wash checks and change the routing numbers and stuff on them, yeah, and so you know he committed a lot of fraud. That way yeah.
Speaker 2:Was he from Florida?
Speaker 3:You know what I don't know? I'll look him up.
Speaker 2:Look that up, because my next story is about a Frank Abagnale type person.
Speaker 3:A wannabe Okay.
Speaker 2:But he's also a Florida man.
Speaker 3:Bronxville, new York, get out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's where he's also a florida man bronxville, new york get out. Yeah, that's where he's from. Yeah, that's where sarah lawrence is. He probably went there. He was probably one of my teachers it could, could have been for all I know, maybe he was impersonating joseph campbell.
Speaker 3:Maybe he was impersonating Joseph Campbell, see you never know, you never know.
Speaker 2:Well, I've got a Florida man who's also a Frank Abagnale type and his name is Tyron Alexander. Okay, Good old.
Speaker 3:Tyron Alexander.
Speaker 2:Grab your con man bingo card.
Speaker 3:Okay, yep, yep, yep, we know what. We should have started this whole thing off with that as a you know, done this whole show as bingo. That would have been perfect.
Speaker 2:Fraud, fraud, what would you call it?
Speaker 1:BS bingo.
Speaker 2:BS, bingo. Yeah, yeah, bsb.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:Well, so we have.
Speaker 3:That's hilarious.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say Tyrone, because I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2:Tyrone, tyrone Alexander.
Speaker 3:Tyrone Alexander.
Speaker 2:Tyron Alexander 35-year-old Florida man convicted this month of posing as an airline crew member on seven different airlines Wow badges, hire dates, ids and the whole deal was that he snagged over 120 free flights.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 2:Lounge access, secure airport perks and-. And when was this? He was just convicted of this this month.
Speaker 3:Well, that had to be hard to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very hard.
Speaker 3:He'd have to fake the stripe on a badge, so he'd have to have some way to program one. Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I'm sure we're talking about stolen. Who knows, in order you know enough to present. Okay, so I just worked for Delta and now I'm coming to you, spirit.
Speaker 3:You know, speaking of that, Frank Abagnale did the same thing. He started a fake stewardess trainee program and traveled with them throughout Europe for two months. That's awesome and logged over three million air miles disguised as a pilot.
Speaker 2:Amazing. Yeah, yeah, no, you can't beat Frank.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the original faker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Now Frank was totally the man when it came to this stuff. And fitting into here perfectly is a book I read this week, hostage by Claire McIntosh. And Hostage is a really interesting book. It's about a flight from London to Sydney and it's a hostage situation and what they do is they go into detail about various passengers on the flight and it's fascinating. So you get the chapters are listed by seat number, so it'll be like 23B.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, and then you hear about what's going.
Speaker 2:You hear about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I really recommend this. It's not a great novel, right, it's not the great British novel, well, it might be the great British one. I don't know, but it's fun.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's interesting.
Speaker 3:It reminds me of that. Have you seen the movie red eye? No, amy adams was in it and uh, and you know, there was a bad guy on the plane who made her her do stuff. Yeah, it was. It sounds very similar. But uh, at the beginning and then it goes. This story sounds like it goes way off from there.
Speaker 2:Well, this yeah, I mean this is interesting because the hostage is on the ground Right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The hostage is not in the air. Fascinating, fascinating, and I hope no one takes this ball and runs with it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it might make a good movie though.
Speaker 1:It might be.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, with a lot of suspense.
Speaker 2:You know, flying is getting kind of crazy. Getting kind of crazy. The, the turbulence, the, the whole, the whole thing of getting on plane these days isn't exactly what it used to be no and there's I have your real ID for one thing, right. Yeah, you have to be like fingerprinted retina, scanned, all that stuff.
Speaker 3:Anally probed To get on a domestic flight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's ridiculous. To fly from New York to Hyannis, you need real ID. Whatever that is, I use my fake ID. Yeah, my license.
Speaker 3:I think all you need to get your real ID is like a passport, because you really have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get that. So I don't know Well here's a. Yeah, you can't simply use your passport anymore either. That's insane.
Speaker 2:No, you need a real ID and a passport that's to fly around in this country.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Domestic oh it's just nuts yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, here's a Southwest flight Burbank to Las Vegas.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:How long is that flight? Not long 45 minutes maybe 90.
Speaker 3:90 minutes okay, yeah, I'd say.
Speaker 2:Well, 10 minutes into the flight out of Burbank, passengers are enjoying peanuts or whatever. Do you get anything? Even Do you get peanuts.
Speaker 3:Well, you don't get peanuts, but oh, what do you get?
Speaker 2:pretzels or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because they don't do peanuts anymore because of the allergies, so they don't even put them on a plane.
Speaker 2:Well, the plane suddenly nosedived.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's an hour and ten minutes, by the way.
Speaker 2:Right, okay, people's an hour and 10 minutes, by the way.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Okay, people were thrown into the ceiling.
Speaker 3:A lot of people Wow yeah.
Speaker 2:Two flight attendants got hurt and one flight attendant quit.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's funny, yeah, which I find hilarious, I'm done.
Speaker 2:I quit yeah, yeah, oh, that's funny, yeah, which I find hilarious I quit, yeah, yeah, I mean, that's like remember the guy who inflated the slide, the flight attendant yeah, yeah who said I quit. Yeah, inflated the slide, grabbed a beer and hopped on out, yeah hopped on out. Well, this, that's what this woman would have done had she been on the ground. And it's because they had to dive to miss hitting another plane.
Speaker 3:Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh. So this is the classic. There are too many freaking planes in the air.
Speaker 3:Or there's not enough people watching them, which is kind of a problem.
Speaker 2:Well, that's kind of a problem right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, air traffic control has been gutted.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 2:Along with radio.
Speaker 3:Within 20 minutes, a plane ran into a helicopter. Within I mean days of that happening. Yep, oh man yeah it's oh boy, there was a. I just want to say you're listening to WOMR 2.1 FM Provincetown and WFMR 91.3 FM Orleans.
Speaker 2:And streaming worldwide at WOMRorg, and we're so thrilled to have you with us.
Speaker 3:And this is actually the Ann Levine show.
Speaker 2:It is the Ann Levine show In case you didn't know, and that's Michael over there and I'm Ann over here. Hello.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Delta Flight. Yeah Bound for Amsterdam Mm-hmm Hit flight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bound for Amsterdam, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Hit turbulence over Wyoming and the plane dropped 2,300 feet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2:And 25 passengers. They had to divert to Minneapolis because there were so many injuries oh wow. Yep. So experts are saying this is becoming more and more common because of climate change.
Speaker 3:Right yep.
Speaker 2:And I believe that I do too.
Speaker 3:Everything in the air is changing. The weather's changing everywhere.
Speaker 2:I was never a great flyer. I mean, I used to fly all over the place, but I had some anxiety about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now I don't know how you could get me on a plane. I mean, if I could get on a plane and fly to Israel, I wouldn't care.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But anything else, just for fun, I'm not flying to Wyoming. I can tell you that right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Nor Amsterdam, you know from Vegas. Look first of all. You just hear those two cities, don't you feel like it's doomed?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, there's kind of a Sodom and Gomorrah sort of association to both of those places. Yeah, exactly, I agree, yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't look back Right yeah. That's what I would call that route. How much time are we looking at?
Speaker 3:You mean left for the show? Yeah, 11 minutes, okay, or, uh, more likely, you know, seven, really yeah well, what is you mean?
Speaker 2:seven minutes of me, yep, and then other stuff that's right. Okay, we have a song yeah, yes, I know I know how it goes, all right, well, just quickly, here is this is the kind of thing. This woman should be jailed, okay.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Jet Blue a lawyer.
Speaker 3:Oh great.
Speaker 2:Female.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Tried to jump the line, deplaning Uh-huh. And so she was declaring I am a lawyer and I demand to cut to the front deplaning because I have important things to do. Uh-huh, I am a lawyer.
Speaker 3:Well, yes, I mean, we knew that, I mean we learned it.
Speaker 2:And she is. Of course, the passengers are like you know, they're all a bunch of entitled Karens also, right? You know not that.
Speaker 3:That's what well, I mean, you don't. You don't, if you're looking for someone to uh to like, immediately give hand you a bunch of respect, you don't start with. I'm a lawyer, sorry that is so true yeah that is true yeah's just, it's not advice anyway.
Speaker 2:Excuse me, pardon me coming through.
Speaker 3:Yeah, lawyer here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I work for Morgan Morgan. This is important. I need to cut the line.
Speaker 3:That's right. There's an ambulance out there. I got to chase.
Speaker 2:I got, oh yes.
Speaker 3:Michael, I mean come on.
Speaker 2:Yes, indeed. Yes, michael, I mean come on. Yes indeed. So yeah, she got into a huge situation.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Last week we lost a real icon, a music icon. Yeah, was ozzy osbourne, the prince of darkness right, the original bat biting rock. God passed away peacefully on july 22nd. He was 76 years old, surrounded by family in his english home, and I always think of him, because of sharon, as being australian.
Speaker 3:Birmingham, which is where he's from yeah. From rough part. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And he was seated on a throne of bats and skulls.
Speaker 3:It was wild. I saw a couple of videos.
Speaker 2:And it was a concert called Back to the Beginning.
Speaker 3:Right because he was performing with Black Sabbath, which he hasn't done in 20 years, yeah, forever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it was a farewell concert straight from his hometown, which is now iconic in heavy metal.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:In his final days battling Parkinson's and mobility issues. He remained totally Aussie.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Defiant and fabulous Fans turned out in force in Birmingham.
Speaker 3:Oh, they did.
Speaker 2:There were thousands of them. Did you see this?
Speaker 3:I saw a little bit of the coverage, yeah.
Speaker 2:This is for his funeral procession. Mm-hmm Lining Broad Street on July 30th and there were brass bands performing Iron man and all sorts of tributes were laid at the Black Sabbath Bridge. I didn't know there was a Black Sabbath Bridge in Birmingham.
Speaker 3:I didn't either, but that's very cool it is and I want to walk across it.
Speaker 2:I want to hang out there.
Speaker 3:I will tell you that Black Sabbath was banned from the Syracuse War Memorial because they set a bunch of stuff on fire with their pyrotechnics.
Speaker 2:Oh, here we are again in upstate New York. That's been a theme on this show.
Speaker 3:Kind of yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, it's tying in. It's all tying in.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's all wrapping up together. Well, the Osborne family, that's Sharon, jack and Kelly, said they plan a more private celebratory ceremony and Ozzy had said he does not want a sad gathering.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah.
Speaker 2:But something loud, real and full of life. Mm-hmm and full of life. Ozzy was a rebel, a showman, a survivor, and he was the guy who took heavy metal into the light but never forgot darkness was part of the deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree I admit that I was because I was two when they became famous. I was very afraid of black sabbath okay if you had said to me um, here are tickets to a black sabbath concert, right, I would have said no way, I'm too afraid to go.
Speaker 3:I would have been afraid of you know the whole thing of biting bats right that actually happened it did, but not the way you might think I mean, he didn't think it was a real bat yeah, um, but he kept going.
Speaker 2:Yep, you know, it's not like oh, I just bit a real bat. Better stop the show right well, believe it or not, this is a song called mama I'm Home and it's a ballad, and this is Ozzy singing Mama I'm coming home. I was stunned when I heard this. It's so beautiful and it's so apt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2:Ozzy, thanks for riding the crazy train with us. We'll raise our devil horns in your honor and, of course, we'll put a light on.
Speaker 1:Lost and found and turned around by the fire in your eyes.
Speaker 2:You made me cry.
Speaker 1:You told me lies, but I can't stand to say goodbye, mama, I'm coming home. I could be right, I could be wrong. It hurts so bad. It's been so long. Mama, I'm coming home. Selfish love yeah, we're both alone, right before the fall, yeah, but I'm gonna take this. I've seen your face Every day. I don't care about the sunshine Cause mama. Mama, I'm coming home. I'm coming home, guitar solo. You took me in and you drove me out. Yeah, you had me in the times, lost and found and turned around by the fire in your eyes. I've seen your face a thousand times Every day. We've been apart. ¶¶, ¶¶, ¶¶. Mama, I'm coming home. I'm coming home. I'm coming home, I'm coming home.
