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Beware the Balls Again
We're bringing you a "Best of" episode from 2020, we're both a bit under the weather. Thanks for tuning in!
Summer fades into autumn as we dive into the controversy rocking the tennis world at this year's unique US Open. Despite the tournament's strict COVID "bubble" protocols with daily testing, drama erupted when Novak Djokovic was disqualified after accidentally striking a lineswoman with a ball hit in frustration. We explore the fascinating precedents for this "abuse of balls" rule, including past incidents that resulted in serious injuries and immediate ejections.
With the "Big Three" of men's tennis now absent from this tournament, a new champion will emerge for the first time in nearly two decades. Meanwhile, Serena Williams continues her inspiring quest for a record-tying 24th Grand Slam title while captivating fans with glimpses of her adorable relationship with daughter Olympia through social media.
Our conversation takes a nostalgic turn as we reminisce about vanishing Jewish-American cultural institutions, particularly New York's iconic delis like Bernstein's on Essex with its unique "double menu" featuring both traditional Jewish fare and Chinese food. These establishments represented a special blend of cultural identity that newer generations may never experience—where servers slammed water glasses on tables and expected you to order without hesitation.
We also tackle the eternal debate between pool and beach preferences, with cultural commentator Liel Leibovitz offering hilarious insights: beaches require carrying your own furniture and accepting that "the ocean is an enormous bathroom," while pools provide convenience and cleanliness. The discussion reveals how cultural backgrounds might influence these seemingly simple preferences.
As COVID continues to shape our lives, we share perspectives on the current three-week window of opportunity before potential isolation returns. Join us for this blend of sports analysis, cultural observation, and the everyday humor that helps us navigate these unusual times.
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Hello everybody and welcome to the Ann Levine Show. We are, of course, joined by Michael Levine. Hello, who's keeping it mighty real With Sylvester? God, I miss Sylvester. Sylvester died of AIDS a long time ago.
Speaker 2:I did not know that.
Speaker 1:Which was just heartbreaking. But this song just made me so happy Then and it makes me happy now. I need to be reminded. I'm real, do you?
Speaker 2:Michael, I guess I'm not sure if I'm reminded, even if I realize it, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. I'm reminded, even if I realize it. You know, yeah, I don't know. No, yeah, could you please it's not, none of it's real. Could you repeat that in?
Speaker 2:a way, none of it is real, none of what Any of this. This is all this. Yeah, this show. All of it, yeah, all of it.
Speaker 1:So is this one of these like second grade? What if the earth is a terrarium? Is that that kind of thing?
Speaker 2:I think maybe it could be Right, so it's like it's grade school existentialist philosophy. Sure, yeah, that's pretty high up there for me, well, that's not true, that's not true.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's so easy. You make it so easy. You're nice. This week has been well, let's go with. Labor Day just came to an end, which is a double-edged sword, as always. Which is a double-edged sword as always. A lot of annoying people went over the bridge yesterday, and that's good. The problem is that they take summer with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they do tend to do that. It stinks, it stinks, and I am furious that it's getting autumnal Right and I'm furious, furious, furious. Yeah, and I know there's all sorts of stuff to look forward to, well, usually. Hello Rosh.
Speaker 2:Hashanah Right, yeah, that's fun, Is what? Two weeks away?
Speaker 1:weeks away, yeah, coming right up, uh, and yom kippur, and then blubbity, bop, bop, bop. Yeah, all those things. It's christmas, tada, which I don't even hanukkah gives me. I shep nachas from Hanukkah. Christmas gives me spilkas like nothing else. Now we have been pressed and will continue to be pressed into going to New York for Christmas.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that is true, but that's been a decade-long thing.
Speaker 1:This is particularly. You know, some years are a little more pressure than others. This year it's out of control. Oh yeah, no, well, last year it was out of control. But the thing is is this year we have COVID, right, yeah, which is rearing its ugly head and getting worse, which is rearing its ugly head and getting worse. And, as a certain northern doctor I know said to me, it's going to get worse, it's going to get really worse. Here's what he said to me. I called him, he's my guru.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that kind of guy. Yes, right, I called him. He's an actual doctor.
Speaker 1:Yes, but he's also like a of guy. Yes, right, I caught him.
Speaker 2:He's an actual doctor.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah. So people are wondering, but he's also like a shaman.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And well Right.
Speaker 2:He's a magic man. Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1:He's a magic man. If I ever called him and sang that, it might be the last time we ever had any communication yeah well and probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that seems reasonable, though, really yeah, most of my doctors would not enjoy that. Yeah, anyhow, I um I've been following his rules for me because I have particular needs right now. I do have my own doctor right, yeah, you sure do who to whom I am devoted. Yeah, we are not related by blood, nope no, not that we're not really related by anything except we both find the other hilariously funny and that is true, and you both are.
Speaker 2:I find both of you very yeah, so it's great to be around the two of you it's, it's a whole lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at any rate, he told me in march. Okay, early march. Yeah, shut the door right, no one in no one, in no one in no, and you're not going out either. And you're not going out except on your property right and michael's not either right, yeah, no one's going anywhere. That's how you're staying safe your life now yeah, given what you have for lungs and I, as I always say to my lungs, I love you. Yeah, I thank you.
Speaker 1:You're doing an amazing job you really are, yeah giving the crap that the world has handed you, yeah, anyway, yeah. So this doctor and I had a chat last week and look, no one has cleaned my house I mean except us. Yeah, which means no one has cleaned our house except the kitchen since early March, and I feel a little desperate about that. He said no, this is the perfect time now. Before I tell you any of this information, let me say I am not a doctor. I do not represent a doctor. Nobody thinks I'm a doctor no, I've never thought it.
Speaker 1:Nothing I'm saying is true for anyone doesn't even sound except myself and my beshert, my michael. Yeah, all right, so, uh, no one's been here. He said here's the thing. You got about a three week window. Things are at the lowest intensity as covid concerns since they have been since the beginning right the transmission rate in massachusetts is really pretty low at this point right, it's down to one percent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're gonna have anyone come in your house or if you have to go somewhere other than and say the hospital, right, this is the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the next three weeks.
Speaker 1:And then it's going to ramp up and you're going to be behind closed doors again.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Seal the doors, yeah.
Speaker 2:And no one in or out, no one in no one out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm having, I'm thinking going forward, I'm having a biannual cleaning. Uh-huh, you know, it's like you get your teeth cleaned twice a year, you get your house cleaned twice a year. Oh, very good, now that seems like a good idea.
Speaker 2:Maybe you could do it on the same day. Well, I could. I could go out, yeah, and get your teeth cleaned, and while you're doing that, they can clean the house.
Speaker 1:But you know what's weird is that's such a cool idea. I know, well, we could set that up, yeah, but here's the thing, what it makes me nervous to have people come in the house even though we know and love the cleaners.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:When I'm not here. What if they? What if they say you know these freaking levines they have been driving me crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sneezing everywhere. Is that what you're gonna?
Speaker 1:say for 15 years. I'm licking every doorknob, right, I'm bringing my toddlers over, okay to snort and poop and pee on everything. Right, okay, and I don't know. This sounds nefarious. Well, it's damn nefarious yeah you know it's attempted murder and I'm just saying I never would have thought it. One of the most delightful things that happened this summer and recently was that new york go new york. Go, yay, go new york decided yes, we are new york and we are going to have the freaking us open.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're doing it, we're doing it, and we are going to have the freaking US Open. Yeah, we're doing it. Yeah, we're doing it. Yeah, we've been checking that out.
Speaker 1:No and I am so grateful and relieved because having not been able to watch any tennis since last year's Open.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, yeah, yeah, oh, my goodness, I've been really, really.
Speaker 1:This summer is always marked off for me, right? I know I didn't have any of that. The french the, the wimbledon, nothing, nothing the australian australia, which I didn't watch much of just, I saw part of it yeah. Anyway. So on Sunday there was quite, was it Sunday? Yeah, on Sunday there was quite a thing that happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, quite a thing Well, first let me get to what it has meant to the US Open to have this tournament go on during COVID. They have what they call a bubble. Right, you can come in and you can leave, but you can't come back in.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly.
Speaker 1:Coaches, immediate family players and who else.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know, know that's pretty much it other staff, well, and yeah, linesmen right are, are allowed in to the bubble.
Speaker 1:And if you have had covid, if you're a player or any of those are coach and you've had covid, you've tested positive. You know, in the last whatever few weeks you can't come right, you're not.
Speaker 2:They're not letting you in and they're taking your temperatures and they're doing tests as people are coming in and they're doing covid tests right every day yeah, on everybody. And then, and if anybody does come up with a positive, they make a bubble within the bubble and those people are confined to that particular space.
Speaker 1:They're confined to their rooms.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and cannot leave it.
Speaker 1:They're confined to their rooms, and decisions are then made based on all kinds of stuff. Have they had contact with anyone? Does anyone else go in the bubble? It's a whole thing. Yeah, but in addition to that, there are other rules that we didn't get to hear about, and I am so delighted to bring them to you.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yay, All right, new tennis rules. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, so ahead of the courts opening. They didn't open every single court, but most of them on Long Island.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Okay, in Nassau County, which is where-.
Speaker 2:Where they're having the open, the tennis open.
Speaker 1:The tennis thing is going on. Where the tennising is happening, yeah, uh-huh, the Nassau County is the county that it's in on Long Island.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Nassau County Executive, laura Curran, emphasized the importance of only handle your own balls. If you and another player are from another household. She explained you can touch each other's balls Okay, but players should otherwise take every precaution to avoid coming in contact with someone else's balls well with balls of unknown origin, right, I mean, come on, you can kick their balls, okay, but you cannot touch them, don't pick them up, okay?
Speaker 1:yeah, I get that um and kick them anywhere you want, and tennis players are also. Now, this is when you're not in a professional tournament where there are many pairs of eyes on the balls. Yeah right, if you are just going out to play, you get a Sharpie and you put X's on your balls or initials, Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:yeah, something to personally identify your balls.
Speaker 1:You personalize your balls, I get it. And here's the final word she had If you do come into contact with a stranger's balls, please wash your hands, of course. Well, this is tennis logic.
Speaker 2:What are you thinking?
Speaker 1:Yes, wash your hands anyway. Tennis logic. Well, believe it or not, folks, not just on Pornhub, but in the tennis world, there's something called abuse of balls, abuse of balls.
Speaker 2:Yes, I know, and it's sad, it is sad, it is sad, I know, and it's sad, it is sad, it is sad.
Speaker 1:And Novak Djokovic was kicked out of the US Open for abuse of balls. Yeah, he's an abuser.
Speaker 2:He's a ball abuser.
Speaker 1:And what he did was he was playing a match against Bautista.
Speaker 2:Or Boosta.
Speaker 1:Boosta yeah, he was playing a match against booster. I came so close with that off the top.
Speaker 2:I know you were close. I had the b, I had the a, yeah, a lot of vowels yeah all right.
Speaker 1:So let's say you're playing him and you make a few mistakes because you're number one, Right? Of course you know you're Djokovic.
Speaker 2:Sounds dramatic.
Speaker 1:And you have some bad points, okay, yeah, well, you might grab a ball and hit it out of frustration, and the ball might hit the lineswoman in the throat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hit the lineswoman in the throat. Yeah, she may, at that point, grab her throat and collapse and fall to the ground.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now novak. I love calling him novak. Novak may not have done that on purpose. Novak did not do that right.
Speaker 2:I mean anybody looking at the video knows, oh no, that he didn't do that on purpose.
Speaker 1:I mean anybody looking at the video knows that he didn't aim that ball at anybody. He went right over to her to see if she was okay.
Speaker 2:He didn't even hit it terribly hard.
Speaker 1:Well for him.
Speaker 2:Coming off a racket.
Speaker 1:yeah, oh come on Anything coming off his racket. It's going pretty fast. Yeah, and it was a short distance. Yeah. Well, he didn't mean to do it, no, but he did, and the rule is if you are I can't, I don't have the thing with if you're a ball abuser which means you have to keep your balls under your control.
Speaker 2:They are your responsibility that is correct while you are using them, yep and whatever happens, do anything with your balls that may um, intentionally or unintentionally hurt someone, correct.
Speaker 1:Strike someone, yeah. And they say and there, no, that is just cut and dry. And they say that he had to know the second. That happened, of course.
Speaker 2:That it was all over him.
Speaker 1:And this has precedent. This has happened in the past.
Speaker 2:Right, it's happened before, so yeah.
Speaker 1:I was watching some videos on Sunday of times that this has happened in the past and I don't know who it was and I hope someone will look this up, but there was a player who went to kick something on the sideline because he was so angry and he ended up kicking the lineman right in the shin. Oh no, really hard, oh, really hard. That's awesome, um, which is go go on youtube. It's an amazing thing to see because, depending on the angle you're watching from, it does not look like a mistake. You know, it looks like the guy did that on purpose. Also, I think it was last year, maybe two years ago Shapovalov did this Right and had to leave. He accidentally, he hit a ball that was out of play, he hit someone and ta-da ejected right so, oh yeah, he hit the chair.
Speaker 1:Umpire in the face right, oh wait, you know what happened.
Speaker 2:I think that guy's eye socket that was a davis cup match got broken, is that?
Speaker 1:right uh, I have to click on it, hold on I mean, I think that was a very serious injury, if I'm not mistaken, which really I never am. You know, sometimes I'm misunderstood, sometimes I am miscredited sometimes I am miscredited but mistaken.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think anything was broken. He just the uh, the skin was opened, though it was cut. Someone got a yeah, yeah, and he did. He um hit chair umpire arno gabas in the eye with a ball right and he had to have surgery to repair a fractured eye socket. Okay, wow, and shop of all of is a canadian originally from russia. I have, well, whatever, I have mixed feelings about him, but the um, he was very apologetic, yeah, as you ought to be, and he apologized. He apologized to the press, he apologized for letting down his country, his team. He's ashamed, he's embarrassed, he's apologizing. He's promising to learn from the act Well, of course.
Speaker 2:So in contrast.
Speaker 1:Joke of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what did Novak do?
Speaker 1:Novak zipped up his damn bag and walked out and then he got into the Batmobile. What was that car he got into, I don't know? Some gullwing SUV.
Speaker 2:It was wild.
Speaker 1:Some like Ferrari something and drove off.
Speaker 2:And I was happy to see it, and we haven't heard from him since, right.
Speaker 1:No, no, he's not answering my texts and he's being his usual Novak you know Right, he's reverting to the old Novak Now here's the thing, though Because of Roger had to have a knee surgery or shoulder surgery right, yeah rafa had a problem with. I don't know if he has an injury or if he had a covid right.
Speaker 2:Well, or, and now it's somehow covid related and now Novak is out. Right so.
Speaker 1:So it could be Zverev, it could be, shapovalov, it could be.
Speaker 2:Medvedev, the last 18 majors have been won by one of those three guys.
Speaker 1:So it's an exciting opportunity for someone who has it Now. I am very prejudiced.
Speaker 2:No, that's not right. I am biased. Well, it isn't right. You know, ann, I know. Okay, I just want you to know that.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm sorry, don't be prejudiced, I'm sorry, okay, even though what I said was right. Okay, so I am very biased when it comes to Serena Williams.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:And I can't help it, you're a fan.
Speaker 2:You love her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's a great tennis player At this point she's still in it and I want her to get that record. What would this be? 23? 24. I really want this for her. I feel like she might feel, if she got the record of 24, that she could just slow down and spend more time playing dress-up with Olympia, which she does constantly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's one of her favorite things.
Speaker 1:Look, do yourself a favor, Go to Serena's Instagram. It is dynamite. Yeah, they are so crazy cute they have matching dresses and they do everything from. I saw on Sunday that Olympia Ohanian was playing putt golf in a cutest blue dress.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:She's just playing putt golf. This kid is already fluent in every sport.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that won't be surprising to anybody, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But they do all these fun things. They dress up, they do nail polish, they do skin care and moisturizing together.
Speaker 2:And they read and they act out stories, they dance yeah. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:What an incredible mom Serena is. What an incredible mom Serena is, and when she won the other day and Olympia was waving to her from- the stands yeah. I know so cute, oh, adorable. All right, anyway, that is going on, yeah. This week it's going on. Check it out If you're feeling like. If you like that kind of thing you well, yes, and if you feel like you'd like something a little, uh, normal in quotes, yeah, well, it's come on, it's weird.
Speaker 2:It's tennis but there's no crowd, so that's so weird.
Speaker 1:But we're over that already, I know I know, you know, like the first few games we watched, it was a little disorienting, but now it's like oh fine, anyway, watch it. I want to address something, okay. Yeah, that does not have to do with novak djokovic abusing his balls.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yep, or anybody else's balls, for that matter.
Speaker 1:There has been a little kerfuffle. Uh-oh, it's quite tiny in a way. Oh no, between One Ronna Levine Glickman and her current partner Brian. Okay, we don't really have a beef with Brian. We have not interacted with Brian Safi.
Speaker 2:No, not personally yet.
Speaker 1:no, not I mean, and I do admire him as being a sephardic gay jew actor. Okay, podcaster that all takes. Does it take a lot? It takes some yeah, you gotta have a little something burning inside you. Um now, as as we know, um rana rana and beverly right, rana's former partner right yep, and I had some interactions. I remember that and we're going back five years now.
Speaker 2:Oh, maybe even longer than that, yeah.
Speaker 1:Their podcast started about seven years ago. Okay yeah, six years ago.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but you were right there.
Speaker 1:Well, I was right there because I was looking for a podcast that was Jewishly themed. Right, and there you go. It came up in one of my searches as something to check out, but what I want to remind everyone of is that this, while we do podcast, after the broadcast, this is a radio broadcast that is correct.
Speaker 2:We're not. This is not a podcast, people.
Speaker 1:This is a radio show a broadcast radio on on a radio station that is historic, historic correct.
Speaker 2:That has been around for decades, right and where we have been for a dozen years. Yeah, so there you go before r and v any of these uh so-called uh yeah these rana come lately detractors right and now, look, I want to say something right here.
Speaker 1:I am a fan. Yeah, michael and I are fans, right, and we have done everything to be supportive listeners, including talking about them on this show. Well, yeah, writing to them. They've talked about us a little bit, introducing people to their world, and occasionally we get a mention, sometimes a little snarky.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean, that often happens, it's coming from Rana.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, you know Right, so that's not out of character.
Speaker 2:No, of course not. I mean maybe she's got something against you, though, Well I Maybe she's a little jealous.
Speaker 1:I don't think she's jealous, unless you know they do record from an outbuilding on a property in the North Shore of. Massachusetts, on a property in the North Shore of Massachusetts and you and I record in a radio studio.
Speaker 2:That is correct. Yeah, now we live in a home that was built in a Federalist home.
Speaker 1:It was built in 1740. Yeah, and we have three outbuildings on our property. Yeah right we could record in one of them. We don't, but we don't.
Speaker 2:No, we don't the latest we have three outbuildings on our property.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, we could record in one of them. We don't, but we don't. No, we don't have to, we don't. And as far as a gay kind of world, because Rana is very, very popular with her gay listeners, as is Brian. Okay, right, and here's Also seems reasonable, you know, do you know where our station is located? Oh, I do, Disneyland it's in Provincetown Massachusetts, gay Disneyland this is the mecca.
Speaker 2:So yeah, what do you got people?
Speaker 1:This is the, this is kind of it, and I would say 90% of our broadcast listeners locally those two they're probably gay. Oh yeah, probably, and we love them and we love all of you.
Speaker 2:Every one of you.
Speaker 1:And it's been a long time since I did a little shout-out to people like Chris.
Speaker 2:Right Christopher Christopher Christopher Hawley To Kathy.
Speaker 1:People like Chris Right, christopher, christopher, christopher Harley To Kathy.
Speaker 2:Kathy and Sandwich. Hi Kathy.
Speaker 1:There's also a Kathy and Harwich, I believe. Oh, okay, hi, Kathy and Harwich, and to a lot of people who have been with us and listening to us for a very, very long time, especially the WOMR crew.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You're so fabulous. And WFMR Right Orleans, Same crew, different repeater Um our home also. And this may be we have certain historic connections to the area, Mm-hmm Now, while I'm not sure where Rana's people come from originally. Okay, yeah, I am a blend. I am a blend. So there's the Eastern European Jewish, Okay yeah, right I got that, and there's the Swedish Schicksal Right, yeah, from Malmö who has?
Speaker 2:Malmö.
Speaker 1:It's Malmö, yeah, malmö, m-a-l-m-o with an umlaut yeah Malmö. So it's not. Well, that takes away the diphthong. Yeah, malmö ends in a U Mal-ma doesn't, you don't want that? Yeah, they don't want that. The Swedes, right, right, yeah, don't hang that around my neck.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, so. You're not anti, so my mother has a genealogy that goes directly back to the Declaration of Independence. Yeah. Dar membership, which I renounced in the name of George Floyd and other historical. You know I'm a Mayflower descendant, all of that stuff, yeah, and I live in a 1740 house with Michael.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And we are the second family to live here, the second family to own this house. That's correct. Yeah, that is crazy, isn't it? The first?
Speaker 1:family lived here from 1740 to 1980, and then my parents bought it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:How about that? There you go At auction. Hey by the way, I have a relative who was in the Continental Congress myself yes. There you go. Well who? George P Frost? No, well who.
Speaker 1:George P Frost. And now that is confirmed. Oh yeah, I'm asking because. Michael comes from a mixed blended.
Speaker 2:No, this is through my DNA Higglety pigglety.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, because Michael was put up for adoption, taken back from adoption, fostered everything, yeah, so he has several sets of parents. That's why I was asking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these are the actual descendants in the bloodline.
Speaker 1:Yeah Right, descendants in the bloodline? Yeah right. So so what I would like to say is that it's not common for there to be jews in new england. It's not the most jewy kind of place, especially cape cod right and the north shore, which includes marblehead.
Speaker 2:If you go to newton boston, uh, you know, some of our homies are there right, brookline, come on brookline, yeah, right, um, at any rate we can get kosher chinese food in Brookline. Love that.
Speaker 1:Do you? Ugh? I don't. I mean, I've never had kosher Chinese in Brookline. I did have it in New York once or twice.
Speaker 2:I saw there is a kosher Chinese place. I saw when, when we went up to the grocery there, it was visible from there.
Speaker 1:To the grocery, where In Brookline. Oh, yeah, there's a couple of them. Yeah, there's a couple of them. Yeah that's what I was saying. Yeah, no, but there's tons of them in New York and given what I, you know what is fabulous Bernstein's on Essex.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Either you're old enough to remember or you're not, but bernstein's on essex was a classic lower east side. Slam the water on the table, slam the metal bowl of pickled tomatoes and cabbage on the table and look at you, not look at you look down and say what do you want?
Speaker 1:right be looking out the window, or and you you better know somebody else you better know, because if there's a significant pause or if there's a question uh-huh, you know, and especially if it's a guyish question like can I get the pastrami with mayo? Right, the guy is gone.
Speaker 2:It'll be an hour before he comes back to the table, if that guy even comes back to the table.
Speaker 1:Right, they might send in a specialist who is willing to answer questions and handle the needs.
Speaker 2:Now mother did this my mother.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my parents almost got divorced that day. My mother and father went to a deli and she wanted a re. Oh, no, yes, she wanted corned beef, Swiss and coleslaw and French dressing. Okay, wow, Okay. So the number of kosher laws that were broken. Just in hearing that order, the entire restaurant fell silent. Oh yeah, yeah. The entire restaurant fell silent. Oh yeah, yeah, and my father turned like a shade of magenta.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he would be, and he kind of laughed.
Speaker 1:He sort of laughed and he's trying to like get the waiter to come back to Earth Right yeah. And says she's a guy or she's a shiksa. So of course, at that moment my mother's infuriated right of course she should be. And um, somehow, miraculously, some food was brought to the table and consumed.
Speaker 2:Well, your dad. Your dad took care of somebody, right.
Speaker 1:Oh my God. So you must be very, very careful, yeah, oh yeah, with your kosher ordering. Bernstein's on Essex Now, bernstein's on. Okay, bernstein's on Essex. Yeah, used to have a double menu.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right. I'm not sure what that means. Only Jews could come up with such a thing.
Speaker 1:You have the regular Okay. That's your corned beef, your pastrami, your coleslaw, your half sours. Let's follow that, okay, yeah, and then you have Chinese. Really, I am not kidding, there's the Chinese menu.
Speaker 2:That is so funny. Bernstein's for Chinese.
Speaker 1:So if you come in past, say 5 o'clock, it's not all day, but it's dinner. If you come in and they say you're getting regular or chinese, I am not kidding you I am not kidding you. Oh wow, so the chinese I have some theories about one could be yeah, would you regular or chinese, and god help you if you want a mix oh god, yeah, if, if you well, I want chinese if you walk in and say, well, you know, the kids want chinese, yeah, but we want regular Separate tables, you might be told that Many things could happen.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, we cannot accommodate you Next. Many things can go wrong there. Yeah, in addition to the food, which is horrendous, it's horrendous. Everything you love about Chinese food Is not there. It's all missing. Everything you love about Chinese food Is not there.
Speaker 2:It's all missing.
Speaker 1:Take your shrimp, take your pork, right of course, take your crab, your fish sauce. I mean because, in addition to the actual foods that are verboten, to the actual foods that are for boatin, you also, have everything, has to have a kosher.
Speaker 2:Uh oh, right, certificate, right of course.
Speaker 1:So the soy sauce has to be kosher. Yeah, yeah, right, so it's not just that. Well, you could go have beef and broccoli. No, no, just a minute. That's right, is the beef kosher?
Speaker 2:slaughter broccoli kosher?
Speaker 1:is it kosher broccoli? And on and on, it goes right so I know this comes as no shock, but bernstein's on essex was not the best place to eat Chinese in Manhattan. That's so weird, but it was a thing. Now, if you wanted Ratner's, ratner's is gone.
Speaker 2:Ratner's okay, If you wanted dairy Okay well.
Speaker 1:But anyway, bernstein's on. Essex, bless you, okay, they still there. Of blessed memories. Essex, bless you, okay, they still there. Of blessed memories, oh, no longer there. No, and Stage and Carnegie. I don't know if Stage is still going to remain open, but the Jewish Deli has pretty much left New York.
Speaker 2:Now everything has left everywhere, what do we have? Everything has left everywhere. What do we?
Speaker 4:have uh one one cats, yeah, cats, is that there? Yeah?
Speaker 2:there's two of them, and that's and that's it right, that's bs.
Speaker 1:I mean, this thing with cats is cats. This was a hot dog stand, it wasn't yeah anyway, harry met sally and bum. Yeah, anyway, harry met Sally and boom Right. There's a line of cats. Right and you have to have waiters. Waiters there have to go through a particular training course.
Speaker 2:Right About the movie. Where they are put in a room.
Speaker 1:It's like in a detox Not detox, what it's called's called sensory deprivation room, essentially but with headphones on and you listen to this on a loop for several hours. I'll have what she's having, I'll have what she's having. I'll have what she's having, I'll have what she's having. That goes on and on, and on yeah. And you have to be a waiter that can handle hearing that Right Every three minutes. Huh, right For your entire shift.
Speaker 1:It makes good sense that they're building up their you know endurance that way well, you have to, because if you're someone that would be, oh please, I can't you. There's no, oh please I can't. You have to leave right, you will never take it right you will never make it now. Um, I just want to make sure as I, as I close out this little segment on on the ann levine broadcast radio program yes uh-huh, that now being podcast, you know, I mean later being podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah we do love rana and brian yeah, of course, yeah and there's one strange thing now, okay, there's a missing episode you know what?
Speaker 2:that's a very good point. This is the back to the rana and beverly show.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, now I just want to say that 2015's episode 109 no, no, let me say you looked this up.
Speaker 2:The other, uh, the other night and you. You looked up rana and beverly's most popular episodes, right and there it is listed in that one right episode 109 and when you press play, it says error. Gone.
Speaker 1:Same thing on Earwolf on their site and it's gone.
Speaker 2:They have erased it from everywhere.
Speaker 1:Now what I found is that I went back to our episode from a week after that and we did play the segment where they were talking about our wedding Part of it. There's another whole section about Daniel, who was a guest at our wedding and who got into the Ron and Beverly show.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah show right, yeah, um, he who also became involved and he wrote to them asking about what he should do when he starts sweating, uh-huh right, yeah, well, yeah, at our wedding, yeah you have to worry about things like that.
Speaker 1:So anyway, that episode is gone. Gone um I so. So we did find this piece right right yeah, that we played on our own show. Now nicholas claims to have a copy of it oh, he does somewhere and he said he was emailing it to me I don't know where, okay uh, it ended up okay, I did not receive it.
Speaker 2:Well, he'll get it to you, I'm sure.
Speaker 1:I mean, where should he send it?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, what, what email address should he?
Speaker 2:use. Oh well, um um, you know what that's a? That's a good question, because it's probably a pretty big file. It may not go in email, we might have to set up a dropbox thing. So maybe I'll just talk to him on social media and, uh, we'll figure it out that's great.
Speaker 1:You think, oh, that's yes thank you okay yeah, uh, that's just the kind of information. Now, what was I gonna get to? Oh, here's another thing, okay, which I didn't mean for this to come down to. Uh, you know, jews versus goys, not versus, but compare like a making a comparison. Okay, yeah that that was never my intention for the show.
Speaker 2:However, However, there is Now that we've done that thoroughly.
Speaker 1:Well, here are some podcasts. Let's continue. Here are some podcasts, okay.
Speaker 2:And then I'm going to come back to the one. These are recommended podcasts.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, and you may be listening to these. You may know of these. If you don't, these are not optional these are mandatory.
Speaker 2:Okay, Anne's mandatory list of podcasts you are now commanded to listen to for your own good Reply.
Speaker 1:All Reply, all yes. And Radiolab Okay, ta-da, okay, is that it? Well, no, I have a tidbit for those of you who are j curious. For those of you who are j curious, right or j, it could be both right. Yeah, unorthodox is the podcast, it's just called unorthodox. It's put out by tablet magazine and it is funny it is very funny it is and it's informative. Yeah, it's yeah it's just basically, if you want to listen in on the Jews and they know you're listening in- by the way, right. We control everything, including.
Speaker 2:Right, of course, I mean all the media.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we know what goes in and out of your ears. Yeah, so Unorthodox is fantastic and they are friends of the show. Is that what you say when you've interviewed? You've had people?
Speaker 2:on your show. Yeah, that's what we've been on the show so anyway, leo leibovitz yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Born in Herzliya in Israel.
Speaker 2:Also called Stephanie occasionally. No, no, no, no, what Didn't we vote on that?
Speaker 1:No, it's Leal, Leibovitz, oh okay, all right. No, his middle name is Leal Leibovitz.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it's. Leal, leal, leibovitz Leibovitz oh okay, I thought Stephanie got in there.
Speaker 1:No, no, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:I voted for Stephanie.
Speaker 1:Stephanie's a different person on the show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but I voted for that for his name.
Speaker 1:Liel Leibovitz is a guy who came to the United States when he was 18 to do the summer project, ended up staying here, mastered English beyond a guarantee Certainly what I have.
Speaker 1:I mean his mastery of the English language is ridiculous. He's a brilliant guy. He's a philosopher and just an all-around funny guy. He's a total New Yorker Upper West Side wife and two kids, Yep, and he's a Jewy. Jew Likes video games. He's written a lot of books. He taught at NYU. He's a mensch, he's a person. Now, his favorite place on Earth is Cape Cod and his favorite place in Cape Cod is WOMR. So see, which is one of the reasons he was happy to come on our show to come on.
Speaker 1:WOMR. Yeah, it's pretty cool, cool, um. Anyway, they were having a debate mark oppenheimer, stephanie butnick cohen, emily l leibovitz about pool versus beach okay now, I know for most people, particularly in this area, that's a no-brainer right, it's the beach.
Speaker 2:If you're on cape cod, it's the beach.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's why people come here, right yeah, and you want the beach and people go away in the winter to go to a beach.
Speaker 2:That's right, right, yep. They're going to Florida, to where the beaches are.
Speaker 1:The sand, you know. The smell of the salt, the whole thing and that cool water washing over you. All right.
Speaker 2:I there really isn't anything like living on the coast.
Speaker 1:That's fantastic, yeah. Isn't anything like living on the coast? That's fantastic, yeah. Now, on the other hand, a pool is something you can actually swim in in a particular way. Yes, true, yeah. So if you want to get in a certain number of laps without dealing with other people undertow, whatever the heck is going to be out there sharks in the case of cape cod.
Speaker 1:Whatever it is, you want to be swimming in a pool, yeah, you know. If you're swimming for exercise or for certain whatever, even for pleasure actually swimming swimming, yeah, and as rana does every day. Rana gets in a pool every day, okay, well, and I think for you. She's a jew for pool. Okay, I really do. I don't know for a fact, but I think she'd rather be at the pool.
Speaker 2:Quite frankly frankly Okay then at the beach.
Speaker 1:Now here's what Liel says. Okay, yes, Because I love being in water. I don't care if it's a pool, if it's the ocean if it's a lake, if it's sub-zero. If it's clean and cool, I'm in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know you are a mermaid.
Speaker 1:I am a mermaid. Yeah, you really are so Leal did offer this point.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:He said look, you have a pool. You go outside, sit in a chaise and you got whatever it is. If you're a Jew, maybe a Diet Coke on ice with a twist of lime. If you're not, maybe a Coors, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how it goes, right, but you've got your chaise, you've got your drink and your magazine, your book, your laptop, whatever it is that you want to fiddle with. Yeah, and oh, it's getting a little warm. Hop in that pool, swim to your heart's delight.
Speaker 1:Get out towels, sit down. Yeah, now, this is how Leal describes the beach. Okay, first of all, you have to bring your own furniture and you have to carry it. Good point. Okay, first of all, you have to bring your own furniture and you have to carry it. Good point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, that's a huge point. That is a very big point. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff you have to tote.
Speaker 1:Yeah, second of all, your drinks are not at a tiki bar, nor are they right there in your house. Right, you have to have brought them in some sort of cooler device, in a big heavy thing, and your food correct, yeah, and it's all garbage. So it's, you've got a cooler full of paper plates, plastic forks, plastic cups. Yeah, it's all very bad for the environment um, okay, so you got all you're at the beach, Fabulous.
Speaker 1:And then let's say you want to lie down for a nap. Mm-hmm, Tony, do you remember lying on a towel? Like to take a nap at the beach on the sand towel. Well, yeah yeah, how did that go Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I mean, there's some kid running by that's yelling or kicking sand on you by accident, or there's some rock digging into you somewhere, yeah, or sand fleas.
Speaker 1:Or it's too hot. You realize your back is burning. Yeah, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if you don't have an umbrella or a tent or something, yeah, you're Nah.
Speaker 1:Now here's Leal's biggest point. There's one thing you can't bring with you to the beach it's your bathroom. Yeah, and as he says the ocean is an enormous bathroom. Yeah, and you look around you at the beach, whoever's there, they went, they went, they went, they went in and they get told to go in. Well, yeah, you ever be at the beach and you're mommy, I have to go to the bathroom. Yeah, well, go out there. Go in the water. Yeah, go up to your waist.
Speaker 1:Just go out in the water, you know, yeah, and most of us kind of suspend our whatever it is. But it's true, but it's true. And, as mark oppenheimer added, not to mention every whale, every crab, every lobster, every one of those tiny fishes thing in the ocean is pooping all the time that's right, also clams yeah, yeah. So there is that side of the argument now. Now that won't get me If I'm at a beach and there's water and it's clean.
Speaker 1:In quotes I'm in Okay yeah, and I can let all those thoughts of the other stuff go because it's pure sailing Right. Stuff go because it's pure saline right. Um, but that's another problem that jewish people have with beach.
Speaker 2:Okay, that is hard for them to handle.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, well, you know, um, well, yeah, the the waste right, of course, yeah, yeah, it's, it's and the food. I mean, look, if you have a mother and I'm telling you this person existed who would put a salami and onion sandwich yeah, in a piece of foil to send you to school, right? Well, that same person's gonna put one for you to take to the beach that's right, or, or, or crab salad or something like that oh, yeah, what what do you mean?
Speaker 2:crab salad? Yeah, something that will a jew with me.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, maybe not, yeah, no, a tuna fish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tuna, tuna salad, that'll get all nice and warm in the sun Egg salad. It'd be so great.
Speaker 1:White fish salad yeah.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:There is nothing that belongs on the beach less than those things, nah, anyhow. So I am coming down on if I had to pick one forever, wow, I don't know, I can't honestly, but let's just say this summer with COVID and everything.
Speaker 1:I was so happy to have a pool. I was so happy to have a pool and not just a sauna. Like some people in Marble Hub that I'm familiar with, we had a happy, sad thing this week. How unusual Sarah left. Our friend Sarah I'm not going to do last names she had to go and her gorgeous daughters, eve and Birdie, and they had to go, move away from Cape Cod, and we miss them terribly but from the bottom of our hearts we wish them everything wonderful that's possible in life. And you know where they are they're up in the Green Mountains, otherwise there's no way in hell I'd be playing Bob Dylan. Please put a light on.
Speaker 4:Altars are burning, With flames falling white. The foe has crossed over. From the other side they tip their caps. From the top of the hill you can feel them come more brave blood to spill Along the dim Atlantic line. The rabbit's land Lies for miles behind the light's coming forward and the streets are broad. All must yield To the avenging God.
