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Black Moon Rising
The cosmos keeps offering us fascinating phenomena to contemplate, from Black Moons to Saturn's temporarily vanishing rings. Unlike Blue Moons (two full moons in one month), Black Moons occur when we experience an extra new moon – completely dark and invisible to observers on Earth. This celestial event sparked a discussion about lunar calendars and how our ancestors used the 29.5-day lunar cycle as a natural timekeeper, something many cultures still honor today. Meanwhile, Saturn's rings are performing their own disappearing act through a "ring plane crossing," a natural optical illusion occurring every 13-16 years when the rings tilt edge-on relative to Earth. While this temporary vanishing act will reverse in November, scientists predict the rings will truly disappear in about 100 million years due to "ring rain."
From astronomical wonders, we descended to earthly spectacles – including a bizarre incident at Boston Logan Airport where a passenger decided waiting for a flight was "too ordinary" and staged an impromptu striptease that ended with full nudity and state trooper intervention. This seemingly absurd news story raised serious questions about mental health and appropriate public behavior.
We're particularly enthusiastic about the groundbreaking Netflix documentary "Sunday Best," which reveals Ed Sullivan as far more than just a television host – he was a courageous civil rights warrior. Despite network directives prohibiting physical contact with Black performers and threats from sponsors and viewers, Sullivan defiantly showcased Black artists during segregation, insisting on live performances and embracing talents like Pearl Bailey, Harry Belafonte, and the Jackson 5. The documentary features extraordinary archival footage alongside contemporary interviews with music legends who witnessed Sullivan's quiet revolution firsthand.
Our conversation took several unexpected turns, from the bizarre WNBA dildo-throwing incidents (connected to a crypto meme coin group) to fascinating Halloween trivia (did you know 50% of American jack-o'-lanterns come from Illinois pumpkins?). As summer wanes, we reflected on holiday decorations and the merits of simplicity versus commercial excess. Whether you're fascinated by cosmic events, cultural history, or contemporary oddities, there's something in this episode to spark your curiosity and perhaps change how you view the world around you.
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Hello, hello, welcome to the Ann Levine Show. It's Tuesday, augustust 26th 2025. I'm joined by michael over there hello and we're coming to you from womr 92.1 fm in provincetown that's right.
Speaker 1:and wfFMR 91.3 FM and streaming worldwide at WOMRorg. And hey, this is it. We're kind of you know.
Speaker 2:Thanks for listening. Yeah, this is it?
Speaker 1:We're happy to be here.
Speaker 2:We're thrilled to be here.
Speaker 1:Thank you for joining us and we're dancing in the moonlight.
Speaker 2:With King Harvest. Such an oldie, such a goodie. This one takes me right back.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, me too. I love this song. It's like 1972 or 73 or something like that, something like that.
Speaker 2:I remember learning how to play this on the piano actually. Oh cool, that little, just that little riff. Yeah Well, I'm. I've chosen this song in homage to the Black Moon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we just had one of those, didn't we?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it got a lot of press and talk.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And more really than maybe it deserved, uh-huh. But for those of you who don't know, unlike a blue moon, which is when you have two blue moons in a month, Well, when you have a blue moon, which is two full moons in one month, yeah, yeah, I meant two full moons in one month.
Speaker 2:Right, that's a blue moon. Right, a black moon refers to an extra or a missing new moon Right In a month. And since a new moon is when the moon is completely dark and invisible to us, that's why it's called a black moon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, because usually there's. You know, at this point there's a tiny little sliver you can see like a little smile quite often this time of year. You know it's facing that way. From here it looks like a little smile in the sky and that's it. That's your new moon, right? But after a blue moon you get a black moon, which is dark. It's all there. It's up there in the sky but we just can't see it because the light's not coming off it. It's completely in our shadow, right?
Speaker 2:Well, it's rare because the lunar cycle is 29 and a half days, right, which people don't understand. Most people, right, and that's what a lunar calendar means. So people who use the lunar calendar actually have a month that's 29 and a half days, actually you have a month that's 29 and a half days, right. So giving a little clarity perhaps to those who celebrate, say, chinese New Year or Asian New Year.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Lots of people or Jewish.
Speaker 1:Jews use the lunar calendar. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean you know that's, that's probably, you know, basically, the calendar that, uh, we've been using forever right until recent history until the romans decided that we needed to have some months, that were, that we needed 12 months right and when you go, chop that up. Well, some of your months have 30 days, some have 31 days and then one has 28 or 29 days yeah depends, depends. Yeah, that's a tricky one anyway, yeah, so we've bent ourselves in and out of all kinds of shape to follow this bizarre thing that they came up with. Whoever they are, yeah it's really so.
Speaker 1:The lunar calendar is just so easy and it's right there for you to look at. Yeah, exactly. It actually makes sense, but you know God forbid human beings would. Uh, it actually makes sense, yeah, but you know god forbid human beings would do something I mean people, could you know, people could, uh, can tell basically what time it is by the position of the sun in the sky and you know?
Speaker 2:back then people would be able to tell you exactly what time of year we are, just based on the moon, right, so yeah well, a black moon is similar to a blue moon because it's it happens all the time, uh, like full moons do, except that if you get two of them in one month, right, yeah, then it's called a black moon. So it's like a blue moon in that sense. Uh, so you get about two or three of these a year, but the the black ones are when you get two of them in one month, right. So it's not all that, but people got really freaked out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they kind of made a deal of it, yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's a witchy thing. You know there's a lot of stuff in witchcraft and in some other. What would you refer to them to?
Speaker 1:Practices I don't know. Older religions Right. Pre-christian religions yeah. Practices I don't know. Older religions Right, or?
Speaker 2:pre-Christian religions yeah, practices, yeah, from back in way back in the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pre-christian traditions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that sounds and so it's supposed to be a good time to let go of things, to start new things. You don't have the same gravitational pull. I mean, all that stuff is based in some reality At any rate.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, Well, because it's all based on real things like the stars and the moon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, real things. Yeah, actual real things. It's all based on real things like the stars and the moon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, real things, yeah actual, real things up there.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a whole Saturn thing. Do you know about that?
Speaker 1:I do not. Is there a Saturn?
Speaker 2:thing Major Saturn. Thing.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, a Saturn thing. I didn't know. Tell me about it. Well, the—. Is it not real? Is Saturn not real? No, it's.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a ring plane crossing going on Okay. And so Saturn's rings are vanishing from our view. Oh, I see, not because they're gone, but it's an optical illusion yeah, it's yes, exactly I understand.
Speaker 1:It's light yeah, it's yes, exactly I understand.
Speaker 2:And it happens when Saturn's rings tilt edge on relative to the Earth.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So it makes these wide icy bands just appear really narrow.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1:I get it, yep.
Speaker 2:So this event occurs every 13 to 16 years.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool. I've not heard of this.
Speaker 2:Yeah so.
Speaker 1:I like this. This is something new for me.
Speaker 2:Well, Saturn orbits the sun over a 29-year period, which I didn't know that at all, so I'd be two.
Speaker 1:I'm two years old.
Speaker 2:On Saturn yes on Saturn, yes, on saturn, right on kind of you're around two years. I'm around two years, but anyway, never mind, um, but and it's not permanent, it's temporary in november, saturn tilts back and, ta-da, the rings will be in view again, but in the far, far future that humans will probably not be around to see. Okay, saturn's rings are truly fading. Oh, okay, um, saturn's rings are truly fading. Oh, okay, over geological time, because of this thing called ring rain and, as I said before, rain.
Speaker 1:Well, you know all those down with ring rain exactly they're um. I'd like some ring rain, depending on, don't you bring no ring rain around here?
Speaker 2:um the. So there are these ice particles you know that spiral saturn that are in saturn's gravity yeah, okay, and that's what those rings are yes, but because of saturn's gravity and magnetic influence, the rings are going to get erased.
Speaker 1:Going to get pulled into Exactly.
Speaker 2:Okay, Yep Into the atmosphere and literally melt Right Now.
Speaker 1:this is I mean, you can see. You know, we can actually see this phenomenon on the planet Earth, you know, with a rainbow. Right, we can actually see this phenomenon on the planet Earth with a rainbow, because if you're looking at a rainbow and you move to one side or the other of the rainbow and it's going to start to disappear, even though from your original point of view it's still there, right, it's really wild, yeah.
Speaker 2:So now, the timeline for the complete disappearance of Saturn's rings is 100 million years. So, I'm going to go out on a limb and say don't worry about it, we got other fish to fry.
Speaker 1:You know what it pays to be prepared.
Speaker 2:It does, and how do we prepare for this, michael?
Speaker 1:Find some other place to go. We got a little bit of time this time, right, it's not like a comet's headed here and we got to get off in three months. No, we got a little bit of time that we can figure out a way to hop off and go somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Because of Saturn's rings.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay. Well, you clearly know more about the deep implications of this for Earth than I do.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, obviously.
Speaker 2:Well, far be it from me to allow the opportunity for something stupid and raunchy to go by. So, since we're talking about moons, here's something that went down at Logan, boston, logan.
Speaker 1:Oh, no way. Okay, yes, with your lead up I was thinking oh, a Florida man story. But no, no, no, no Boston man which is.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't talk about Boston man that often, but there is a whole Boston man thing there really is, and you can find them on social media, yeah. And they are some of the most hilarious people in the world, Unlike Florida. Well, whatever. Anyway, JetBlue passengers. So this is at Boston Logan this weekend.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:This past weekend.
Speaker 1:Oh no.
Speaker 2:Okay, at Gate C.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a past weekend, oh no, okay, at Gate C. Oh, that's a busy weekend.
Speaker 2:Well, I have a stick, a pin in that.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:An unidentified passenger decided waiting for a plane. This is what he said waiting for a plane is too ordinary.
Speaker 1:Okay yeah, ordinary, okay yeah yeah, yeah, ordinary.
Speaker 2:So he staged an impromptu strip tease.
Speaker 1:Oh no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he went extemporane, he just got up and started doing it Okay.
Speaker 1:Up and started doing it Okay.
Speaker 2:And so first he took his jeans off and posed theatrically. You've got to go online and see this Exactly. He had on bright red underwear.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Which around here is nothing special.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I mean, my favorite underwear that you have are the ones with the shark. Oh yeah, yeah, biting your delicate bits.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I mean what else are they going to do? Well, I bought them, I mean you know you got to go for the vitals You're brave for wearing them yeah.
Speaker 2:At any rate.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thanks for noticing, of course.
Speaker 2:I noticed. That's why I bought them. They're fabulous. Anyway, what's the name of that brand? Is it Saks, saks, saks, s-a-x, saks? Yeah, of course, s-a-x-x. Yeah, people go online check out Saks underwear. It's kind of fabulous, okay. So first he did the red underwear, did the striptease and then, for the showstopper, he pulled them down and mooned the crowd.
Speaker 1:Oh, good for him. What a guy.
Speaker 2:And then he dropped to the floor. Okay, so now we're naked at Gate C.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Dropped to the floor and did poses and then stood arms wide but was like muttering to himself.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:In full view of stunt traveler. So he went from mooning to what do you call it when someone gives you full frontal?
Speaker 1:um, I don't know, what do you? What do you call that sexual assault?
Speaker 2:well then, what happened? What happened? Who arrived?
Speaker 1:I'll tell you who Someone left the Dunkin'.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Some guys got a radio call at the Dunkin', so two troopers, yep, yep, so mass troopers, a famous group of people, state troopers, oh yeah, showed up. Wonderful people Escorted him off.
Speaker 1:Aha, yes.
Speaker 2:And brought a halt to the spectacle. So we don't know yet if anything happened to him. Did he get arrested? Were charges pressed?
Speaker 1:Were his trousers pressed.
Speaker 2:We don't know. Were his jeans pressed. Yeah, Public indecency. Legally, public indecency in Massachusetts can lead to jail time, fines or both, but we don't know yeah come on, I mean, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:You know, it's getting harder to also say what indecent is well, you know what world today?
Speaker 2:there are two things about this that raise red flags for me. Okay, I love the striptease, I love mooning like a quick moon and pull your jeans up. You're back on the plane. There you go. Yeah, in my opinion, okay, um, but the two red flags are that. He then went. All right, no, I'm taking it all off and I'm going through full frontal I'm standing here with my arms wide, muttering to myself yeah, okay. So that's indicating that there might be some sort of psychological challenge here?
Speaker 1:You would think yes.
Speaker 2:And so I hope that this person was okay and was not treated terribly. I mean assuming that this is the whole story yeah so right I guess we'll.
Speaker 1:We'll have to find out, you know when, when there's more, oh, there will be more yeah, we'll follow up on this.
Speaker 2:You know when, when there's more oh there'll be more. Yeah, we'll follow up on this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're going to follow up on this one.
Speaker 2:As we always do. We always follow up on our stories. Oh yeah, you know. One thing that I don't do is I say, oh wait, it can't be over yet, I've got more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, never get back to it. Never get back to it, no, no, well, because by next week it just feels stale, right, right, because you've been already, you know everything, you've already gone, done the whole story in your head.
Speaker 2:I've done that. Yeah, not to, not to be too cliche about it all right. Michael and I saw something pretty extraordinary and you must all watch this. This is homework, this is not optional. Okay, that is correct. There's a new doc on Netflix called Sunday Best and it's extraordinary.
Speaker 1:It really, really, it truly is yes.
Speaker 2:It's the untold story of Ed Sullivan, and he's recast not just as the toast of the town, which is how he was known in his time. It's amazing, because I know so many people who have these strong memories of the Ed Sullivan show.
Speaker 1:I have very strong memories of the Ed Sullivan show, so do I, and they're wonderful memories and they're wonderful memories but we forget that.
Speaker 2:You know we were watching this, you know as infants, right, because he went off the air in 1971. Right.
Speaker 1:And what we were watching was historic really.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what's in here, and there's so much I didn't know about ed sullivan.
Speaker 2:I don't know why, but I was under the impression that he was not born in this country yeah I don't know where that came from midwest or something like that, but I found out differently he was born in Harlem, yeah, born and raised, and his family did move, I think, to the Midwest. But I would say that his formative, the guy, was amazing and he was the an unlikely. He was a civil rights pioneer Yep, he was a total. What did I say?
Speaker 1:A civil rights pioneer.
Speaker 2:No, not just a second. When we were watching it, I said, oh my God, he was a warrior. He was a warrior for civil rights. Yes, the guy was amazing.
Speaker 1:I mean he was a warrior period, he was in the war. He was in a war anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, this is Sunday Best, oh it's good, oh man, it's a told story of Ed Sullivan and it's on Netflix. It's a film. It's a documentary film. It's what? 90 minutes, yeah, something like that, or less.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've got to watch this. It's really really yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, netflix, if you have any memories of Ed Sullivan.
Speaker 1:This is going to be a wonderful thing. If you don't know who he is, it's also a good thing to watch, because he influenced so many people. Well, he influenced the country.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he changed the world. He did change the world All on his own and he amplified black artistry during segregation, yep, and he did things that were you know. Know. The network would say you can't do this, that's right. You can't hug, kiss or touch a black performer. No, and he was like hey, pearl bailey wants to give me a smack on the lips, I'm going in. Yep, and he shook hands with everyone and embraced everyone. He was told not to shake hands with joe lewis, right, that was like that's the first thing he did right first thing, he did grab his hand.
Speaker 2:Yep, and the people and the performances you get to see yeah, some of the wonderful things you get to see Bojangles.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, yeah, you get to see what was his name?
Speaker 2:Peg Legs, this tap dancer who had a peg leg, and it wasn't a comedic.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, it was amazing. No, he was amazing, yeah.
Speaker 2:And you see. Harry Belafonte, Dionne Warwick, Smokey Robinson, Barry Gordy, Otis Williams.
Speaker 1:Those are the people who are— Jackie Jackie Wilson.
Speaker 2:Right, oh my.
Speaker 1:God.
Speaker 2:And one thing that Ed Sullivan insisted upon and I didn't know this was that you couldn't lip sync on his show no lip syncing. And these performances are live. Yeah, isn't that wonderful. And, oh my God, the Jackson 5? Uh-huh, when Michael was a real person. Yep, right, oh my gosh. Yes, tito, and one of the other it germaine, I think. So, um, they do a little. You get to see them now.
Speaker 1:They're old men, some of it's a little whoa, you know oh, yeah, you get slapped in the face with reality yeah, there's a's a sort of a time warp thing going on in there. Yeah, might give you a bit of a boomerang effect.
Speaker 2:It's incredible. It's all verbatim quotes from columns, articles, letters and a lot of him. You know a lot of actual recordings of him right from interviews and and being on stage and yeah he got threatened for featuring Nat King Cole, and there was this whole movement called I'm not gonna even, I'm going to say the actual words. Um, you can't even say these words, um, on the radio or in at all anymore. But there was this thing called the black communist, the negro communist, something front or collective, or.
Speaker 2:Which is so weird that there were this group of lunatic sort of KKK-affiliated people who lined up African-Americans with communists.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And said, oh, to make them part of the threat. Total BS, absolutely. The whole thing of communism being the great evil is is so bizarre. Anyway, but watch this, because this man and he was courageous. I mean, you know, he was constantly threatened, he got death threats, he, he got sponsors saying they were going to quit. Yeah, what was it? Lincoln Mercury.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean. Well, people told him you know that the Lincoln dealers were not going to stick by him, but they did for years and years.
Speaker 2:And they ended up like actually tripling their sales. Yep so. But you know, in the face of the pressure and the threats and everything it had to be, you know that took some major cojones. Yep In his chones, it sure did. So watch it. It is extraordinary, you know, I was not initially uh feeling super compelled to watch it and then jacob moon sent me a text and said watch this.
Speaker 2:And and I did, and, oh my God. Thank God, because Jacob and I have like the same taste in, which is the best taste, in my opinion in streaming, in film, in music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do seem to be pretty simpatico.
Speaker 2:We're so aligned. Yeah, and here's another.
Speaker 1:That's what drew you to him and his voice to begin with. I mean that's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this weird like heart to heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or brain to brain I don't even know how to describe it.
Speaker 1:Person to person, yeah, Magnetism, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:So, and here's another thing that Jacob turned me on to Fisk, which I've mentioned before, if you haven't watched it, you're just hurting yourself. It's Australian. It's Australian. It is so hilarious.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And this character, Helen Tudor Fisk, who's played by Kitty Flanagan, one of the most hilarious people of all time.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Season three just came out, and that's why I'm mentioning this. It's also on Netflix.
Speaker 1:I see Okay.
Speaker 2:It's only six. Each season is only six episodes. Yeah, it's only six. Each season is only six episodes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's very British.
Speaker 2:And I think they're what half an hour long, 40 minutes max. Yeah, I mean you can binge all three seasons, you know, in an evening.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yep, Get on the sofa and go yeah and enjoy. Every single word is written somehow to elicit a laugh. It's like it's one of those shows you know where the writing is so very funny. Everything everybody says has something funny in it.
Speaker 2:Well, this season has in it. I haven't watched the whole season yet. I just I'm trying to, you know, savor each one as a special bonbon. Oh, okay, yeah, you know, rather than just jamming down a two-pan bag of peanut M&Ms, because then you won't have any.
Speaker 1:Exactly yeah, peanut M&Ms, you won't have any?
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, but this season includes one of my favorite storylines of all time A 12-year-old landscaper who's owed money by the company. Okay, yeah, yeah, I can see that Some crazy Zoom meetings Hilarious, some crazy Zoom meetings Hilarious. And an espresso machine episode, which doesn't sound that funny until If you've ever had an espresso machine at home that misbehaves, which I have, I used to have. Then we had a coffee maker that misbehaved, oh my goodness, yes. Anyway, it is hilarious, watch it.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm going to watch it.
Speaker 2:It's so good. Now here's a film called the Thursday Murder Club which just came out. Okay, this is, I think, think also on netflix. You know, I'm not sure. Maybe you can look up, yeah, poke around, uh, where it is now I actually read the book, the thursday murder club, and, if you like, um silly cozy british fiction, um, this is, this is a, a murder mystery, um, with and there's a hook which I'll tell you in a second, the cast of this, the thursday murder club. And this is a film, yeah, netflix, on netflix. The cast is absolutely. It's coming out this week, I think on friday. Listen to who's in this helen mirren.
Speaker 1:I, I don't need to continue well, how about with the name of her character? Because that that says it all elizabeth best, best she's the best. So there you go, done we're done.
Speaker 2:Pierce brosnan yep, now the two of them, helen and pierce, were on jimmy fallon this week promoting the film, and they're Pierce.
Speaker 1:Brosnan, they're very, very funny.
Speaker 2:They're very old. Oh yeah, and Pierce Brosnan is exactly what you'd expect him to be. They made salsa on the show, which is ridiculous, yeah, but I mean that was their gimmick, but they put a little jalapeno in it with one of jimmy's tomatoes from his yard right, yeah, but pierce brosnan almost had like was apoplectic yeah, he almost needed an ambulance exactly because he tasted a little bit of jalapeno.
Speaker 2:No, he was seriously in distress. Yeah, yeah, that was the funniest part about this. But anyway, a man that I love to hate, ben Kingsley, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:He's an amazing actor Now this is all in a retirement home. I don't know how to describe this place, but if I ever have to go into some sort of home, this is where I want to be. It's basically a big house where three elegant meals a day are served. And you leave your quarters and you come to have your meals, and everyone is beautifully dressed. And you leave your quarters and you come to have your meals and everyone is beautifully dressed. And so Helen Mirren is a former spy, pierce Brosnan's an ex-union leader, ben Kingsley is an ex-psychiatrist my God, that guy needs one. Jonathan Price Is in this.
Speaker 1:We also have Celia Emery. Do you remember her? Yes, she's in it. David Tennant, doctor who, the former Doctor who, is also in it Richard E Grant, isn't that?
Speaker 2:great. Who is one of the greatest of all time, absolutely, in my opinion, now Spielberg.
Speaker 1:Oh, here I got the button for that.
Speaker 2:Richard E Grant. Richard E Grant, please come up and accept your award, your award. Steven Spielberg's company Amblin Entertainment produced this. Oh, okay, so this is a. You know, critics praised it as a delightful mix of mystery and humor Awesome, so I am actually going to want it. Normally, if Ben Kingsley is in something, it's an immediate pass. For me, it's a boycott. And let me tell you why. Ben Kingsley was one of my favorite actors for a long time. Nothing can compare to Sexy Beast. Nothing can compare to Gandhi. Yeah, I mean, so much of his work has been extraordinary. His shakespeare is flawless. Uh, and then he went on mark maron oh and go listen to that interview.
Speaker 2:Look it up. I don't know what episode it was. It was a few years ago.
Speaker 1:Go listen to it. Okay so, and that was it for you. Huh, Never again.
Speaker 2:Anything in particular.
Speaker 1:I mean, did they start talking politics? Nothing.
Speaker 2:He was so rude, he was so obnoxious.
Speaker 1:Oh wait, I think I remember a bit about this Number one. The complaint was where it was being recorded. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so now, just to put this in context, let's remember that Mark Maron's WTF, which I have another announcement about this, w2f pod yep, it's going off, the he's quitting, is he? Yes, oh wow. And so these shows that are coming out now are the last I still have my boomer lives t-shirt somewhere.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, that's right yeah that's an original, a classic yeah, don't ever throw that away collector's item.
Speaker 2:Now put it in my t-shirt drawer. Okay, um oh, boomer lives. Yeah, wow, okay, anyhow, ben kingsley was just he's just like a horrible human really, truly, huh, I mean so out of touch, yeah, with reality, so obnoxious and mean. And he was just acting. I've never heard anything like it. You know, wow, and I can see where. Maybe at the beginning, you know, it's a little confusing. Oh, what I was starting to say is Obama was in the garage.
Speaker 1:I was going to get to that point too. It's like, you know, the guys were doing this in your garage and, yeah, the president of we're doing this in your garage and, yeah, the president of the united states was in that garage. It wasn't uncool, it wasn't? You know, he didn't demean mark for having doing this show from his garage everyone knows that.
Speaker 2:That's one of the first things you're told if you get booked on the show and garage in major quotes when he first started out, what was it in in 20? I don't know it's been like 20 well, he was one of the first podcasts he's came out in like oh, seven, yeah, and he's considered the father of podcasting because it was the first sort of popular podcast. Anyhow, the garage yeah, originally that's exactly what it was, yeah.
Speaker 1:At his house.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah Well, he's moved since the very beginning, but it's still the garage, sort of the garage he's, and it's this amazing studio, yeah, and it's quite lovely. It's a lovely space. So, ben kingsley, the fact that it's, I can't remember what neighborhood it is. Is it Glen? No, glenridge, I don't know, but it's a house. Yeah and nothing. You, kingsley, took exception to everything and wouldn't answer any questions. He was horrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But go listen to that interview because you won't believe it it's worth listening to. I'm going to listen to it again and listen to WTF because it's going to be over really soon. It's very sad. Yeah, that will be a vacancy.
Speaker 1:Wow, that makes a big hole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really kind of it does and I feel old.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess it's been what 18, 17 years or something, something like that, sort of the same amount of time I've been here, but anyway, I mean here meaning on the air but anyway. I mean here meaning on the air. So check out the Thursday Murder Club, yeah, and put a pin in checking out Mark Maron's last interviews that are coming up and going back in the catalog and listening to the Ben Kingsley episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do that yeah.
Speaker 2:Mark Maron's catalog has famously been open, not behind a paywall or anything like that, and I don't know if it will stay like that, if it will all be available online all 17 years for free. But while it is, check it out, Check out some of the other interviews. Name a famous person. Helen Mirren's been on yeah yeah, hillary, hillary, yeah, michelle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that whole bunch, that whole bunch. That Michelle Yep, yeah, that whole bunch. That whole bunch, that whole bunch.
Speaker 2:Well, here's something that Sounds funny but it's actually kind of disgusting. Okay, that's been happening. Have you heard about this WNBA situation?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know a little bit about the WNBA, but Well, since late July, so in the last four weeks, five weeks.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:This has been happening at WNBA courts. So Atlanta, Phoenix, LA, Chicago and New York. Okay, there have been six confirmed incidents where people have been hurling neon green dildos at the players.
Speaker 1:No kidding, oh wow, okay.
Speaker 2:Now ha ha ha, not really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean. Well, that explains a meme I saw of Trump throwing a neon green dildo at some basketball players.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Exactly, and so in New York— Wow, I've not heard—no, I didn't know that that was actually happening. Yeah, that's very weird.
Speaker 2:It's so gross, what the hell. At a New York Liberty versus Dallas Wings game on August 5th, one of these was thrown and hit a 12-year-old girl. Oh, great In the stance, hit her in the head. Now I mean, ha-ha, dildos are, you know, not like, not something you, you can absolutely get? Now it gets funny when you try to talk about it. You can get killed. Yeah, if someone hits you in the head with a dildo, that is true If someone lobs one at you.
Speaker 1:You're not ready for that impact that continues after it hits you, you know, because it doesn't just bounce right off. The impact continues to spread through it and then it might bounce off, but it's more of an impact than getting hit with a baseball. Right, exactly Because that hits you and it's bounced off than getting hit with a baseball Right, exactly, yeah, because that hits you and it's bounced off. Well, they're throwing them at the players.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I get it, I get it so the players are totally freaking out for many reasons, not just because people are launching dangerous items at them in the middle of games.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's this disgusting, weird misogynistic thing. Now I don't get that Wait till. I tell you who's behind this.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know who's behind this. Yes, this is known. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:They've been talking about this. Okay, there is a crypto meme coin group called Green Dildo Coin. Oh my God. And that? This was meant to be a viral protest, not misogyny. What?
Speaker 1:the hell.
Speaker 2:Does that mean A?
Speaker 1:viral protest. Yeah, not misogyny. What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 2:Uh, hmm, A viral protest, yeah, but not misogyny. What are they?
Speaker 1:protesting? Uh, anti-misogyny, Seriously, I mean, they might be. They might be protesting that oh they're protesting anti-misogyny. Yes.
Speaker 2:Let's protest. Let's keep women on basketball courts, but barefoot in the kitchen. Is that what we're saying, I guess? So in a Telegram chat log one member of this group. Green Dildo Coin or Douche Coin this is the new Douche Coin for me posted Dildo Warrior practicing his. Throw on a picture of one of these, and then others joked we will soon buy the league.
Speaker 1:Well, that may be possible actually.
Speaker 2:Well, here's what's happened Baruch Hashem In Atlanta.
Speaker 1:A guy named Delbert Carver Okay, how many people do you know named Delbert?
Speaker 2:I know you know more than one. Yeah, that is true, well. Well, this one is 23 years old, okay. Arrested in atlanta for the first incident. Good for him. Charged with misdemeanors, disorderly content conduct, indecent exposure, which is interesting, okay, because what was it? I guess a dildo in public counts as indecent exposure.
Speaker 1:Whatever, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know. So he said this was supposed to be a joke, it was supposed to go viral.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Now I don't like giving these people oxygen, which I'm doing, but not in a way that I think this is just revolting. Caden Lopez, 18 years old, arrested during a Phoenix game and he ended up hitting a man and a nine-year-old with these stupid things, with these dildos. So he's facing misdemeanor charges. These are all arrests. Charles Burgess, aged 32, arrested after the New York incident and he's going down Assault, reckless endangerment. He's pleading not guilty because no one was actually struck and the WNBA has taken a firm stand on this. So offenders get immediate ejection from the game, bans from ever going to games.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that should be like totally.
Speaker 2:Right. Sop Standard Operating Procedure yeah and these players have, of course been saying, hey, this is ridiculous, dumb, dangerous. You're going to hurt one of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's stupid.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's so freaking juvenile, it's pathetic.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, it's weaponized nonsense, Yep, and it's internet culture and misogyny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly Misogyny for likes at this. Exactly God.
Speaker 2:And the San Francisco Chronicle said this is peak 2025 America, where quote funny equals quote power. But yeah, this is internet garbage Agreed, that's getting spewed and that's potentially hurting people. Hey, michael, over there.
Speaker 1:Hello.
Speaker 2:Do you have something to tell us?
Speaker 1:well, you know what? Um, yeah, I do, and uh, it's been, uh, brought to me, brought to my attention, that the sun's going down a little earlier and coming up a little later wow, is that this should have been part of our celestial segment. I have noticed that and I've also noticed the preponderance of pumpkin spice, halloween decorations and even Christmas Peppermint Peppermint stuff coming out.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Right, yep so, but it did get me thinking about Halloween, and here we go. Okay, here is some information you may or may not know about the holiday of Halloween. In the United States of America, approximately 50% of all jack-o'-lanterns the pumpkins that people carve into jack-o'-lanterns in the United States. I'm familiar 542 million pounds worth of pumpkins grown in Illinois. Okay, how about?
Speaker 2:that? How about that Illinois of all places? Illinois, of all places, illinois of all places Making Halloween Halloween since 1830.
Speaker 1:And speaking of that, of those pumpkins 542 million pounds worth of pumpkins. Well, that's half of them. Only 43% of American families are actually going to carve one. So figure that out, that's a lot of pumpkins, I'm telling you per family. Right, when you work it out like that, yeah, let's see. Work it out like that, yeah, let's see. Um 73 percent of american householders plan to stay at home on halloween so they can hand out candy to the kids.
Speaker 1:Yep um, and 92 percent of americans still believe that their neighborhood is safe for trick-or-treating. But 92, it's not 100, right? 92. 49 of people in the united states will actually decorate their home for halloween. How about that?
Speaker 2:you mean the outside?
Speaker 1:I don't know I mean, that's the you know. Decorate, that's that's the word I've got. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, Halloween decorations are one of the banes of my existence. One of the things that I dislike about holidays are lawn decorations, house decorations. I can't stand the Halloween ones. I really can't stand the Christmas ones. I really can't stand the Christmas ones.
Speaker 1:All of these giant inflatables now.
Speaker 2:Ugh.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then we've got this one house a couple miles down the road that has inflatable dragons, not dragons dinosaurs on their lawn. Yeah, Like all the time.
Speaker 1:But they're not inflatable.
Speaker 2:Oh, they're what Like plastic of some kind. Right Huge plastic dinosaurs.
Speaker 1:Life size. They're life size, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The Velociraptor out in front. And they will put a sweater on it in the wintertime.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they will decorate it for different seasons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's a beautiful, beautiful inn that has a split rail white little adorable fence around it and they have to ruin it. They ruined it Every month by putting different decorations on this beautiful little white fence yeah and oh, yeah, yeah yeah. So you get little pals with shovels in july and you get huge pencils and things for back that's coming up really soon.
Speaker 1:They're not there yet, but they will be there soon, yep and or the beach balls, and then you get little surfboards.
Speaker 2:They've had little surfboards yeah, it's just, it's gross, you know, I I mean it's wrong. This is cape cod, this stuff that has really no place here. There's one thing that's acceptable. What's?
Speaker 1:there are two things that are acceptable okay single candles in windows yeah, and a lot of people do that, which is which is traditional and it's beautiful, it's really lovely isn't it?
Speaker 2:And it's not religious or Santa. You know what I mean? It's not cartoon, no, but it's so comforting. It's such a warm feeling to see that.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm not from here, so I didn't grow up with this. It's not part of my DNA, yeah, but it feels like it is when up with this. It's not part of my DNA, yeah, but it feels like it is when you see it.
Speaker 2:It's really yeah, I love it. The other thing I will allow is a wreath on a door.
Speaker 1:I like a wreath Right, but you've got to take it down and the plainer the better, Right.
Speaker 2:If it's specifically Christmas, it's got to come down.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, You've got to take that thing down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my favorite are and this is the only kind I've ever used, and I used to get them because a friend of mine had kids who sold them as fundraisers for their school. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah and they were just plain oh yeah, the wreaths, yeah, they were just evergreen rings, yep and so, and they smell great and they're I okay, I'll allow it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they had no decorations on them no, so yeah, and you could, you know, put a like the cranberry thing on them or whatever. Like people, do you know and do it yourself if you wanted to, but they're just so pretty by themselves.
Speaker 2:No, they were wonderful. Yeah, and I love bringing greenery into the house. Yeah, or on whatever.
Speaker 1:I love that smell, but that's it.
Speaker 2:That's it for decorations, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:On these part on. It's it for decorations, in my opinion. Okay, On historic parts of the Cape. I'm fully against all of the other unga-patch stuff. I hate it. Yeah, so yeah, people are already getting their Christmas on, getting their Halloween on.
Speaker 1:Yep, it's happening.
Speaker 2:It's not, it is not cool.
Speaker 1:I mean, and it's barely back to school. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I mean it's August. It's August, people, Kids, going back to school yet here.
Speaker 1:Don't rush it. My grandson in Texas started on the 12th of August. I don't know how that happens.
Speaker 2:Well, because it's Texas. I guess, I don't quite understand Texas.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:But what is our time, Michael? We're pretty much out of time.
Speaker 1:We are yeah, how out of time. Out of like, if you had another topic, we would have time to discuss what it is, the topic itself, but not the topic. See, you understand what I'm saying. We could talk about like what you want to talk about, but we can't delve at all Because in like 45 seconds I'm going to hit the go button.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, delve at all because. Uh, all right, 45 seconds. I'm gonna hit the go button. Oh okay, so let me get to then the actor jerry adler, best known for the sopranos, so beloved, he passed away on August 23rd. He just died and he was 96. He was born on February 4th 1929 in Brooklyn and was a resident of New York New York, where so many good people were born and, I assume, are still being born. He passed away peacefully in his sleep in New York City, which is how we all would like to go, I believe. So for Jerry Adler, please put a light on.
Speaker 1:Adler, I've alone, when the sun Particulates Out of nowhere, when the background Fades Out of focus, as the picture's changing Every moment and your destination, you don't know where I belong. Avalon, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. When you're bossing over, there's no holding. Would you have me dancing Out of nowhere, out of nowhere, everlong? Thank you, I'm alone, I'm alone, I'm alone, I'm alone, I'm alone, I'm alone.
