Science Walks Into A Bar

A ballet clip sent us spiraling back to Kate Bush, and that simple scroll unlocked a bigger conversation: how we hear things differently with time, and why owning your work can change the arc of your career. We start with Wuthering Heights—divisive, daring, unforgettable—and trace a line to Stranger Things, music rights, and the long shadow cast by Bittersweet Symphony’s publishing battle. From there, we jump to the art of rewatching: The Sixth Sense still stuns, Groundhog Day still comforts, and Tootsie still snaps. The question isn’t “have you seen it?” but “what did you miss the first time?”

We also check our current screen obsessions. The Morning Show hooks us again, Slow Horses proves that grime can be genius, Survivor and Amazing Race return with big personalities and bigger locations. Along the way, nostalgia turns tactile: ice‑cream truck jingles, fresh stroopwafels in Amsterdam, and the waxy heft of an Edam or Parmesan wheel—especially when $20,000 in cheese goes missing. That sets up a surprising economics lesson: what a wheel weighs, why age matters, and how a couple of crates can become a headline.

Then the animals take over. A parrot “witness” in Argentina, a Swiss self‑driving car locked in indecision over a cow, a Chilean dog who steals a soccer ball and the show, and a small‑town chicken running for mayor with “cluck the system” on every lawn sign. We round things out with nursery rhymes that aren’t as sweet as they sound, a suitcase of garlic bound for Transylvania, and a light‑speed thought experiment that bends time to zero for a photon. It’s funny, thoughtful, and packed with stories that make you want to rewatch, relisten, and reread with new eyes.

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Transcript

Kate Bush Reconsidered

SPEAKER_04 0:08

Out on the wine, with the most we're a tent hot, like my Jesse, too hot, too greedy.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Hello, everyone!

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How could you be?

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Great to see you out there. It's Tuesday, September 30th, 2025. I'm Anne Levine, and this is the Anne Levine Show with Michael over there.

SPEAKER_03 0:42

Hello.

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And we're coming to you on W O M R 92.1 FM in Provincetown, Massachusetts.

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And 91.3 FM Orleans and streaming worldwide at W O M R dot O R G.org. Yep. That's the one.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

We're listening to Kate Bush, Wuthering Heights, and I was watching an Instagram video of a ballet dancer dancing to this. Oh, okay. And it was a gorgeous dance, and I was sort of felt a little addicted to this music. And also the dance, and I watched it over and over and over again. And at first I thought it was someone singing in Japanese.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

Uh-huh. Yeah, because it does have a sort of Well, it sounded like hear that?

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Yeah. Can you understand words?

SPEAKER_03 2:00

No.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Right, so I was looking through the comments to see what this was, and someone mentioned Kate Bush and said, Oh, I've always hoped someone would use this Kate Bush song. Uh-huh. And I said, Kate Bush? Anyway, I went to look it up. I thought, how am I gonna find it? I don't know a single lyric. I know nothing about this song. So just that I never liked Kate Bush particularly.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

Okay, right.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

Back when she appeared in the late 70s. Anyway, I clicked on her most popular song of all time. This is it? Ta-da! Withering Heights. Yes. Okay. So I felt a little dumb and also a little educated.

SPEAKER_03 2:54

I feel a little confused.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Why?

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Well, this is anybody's number one. It was I don't know. I d I don't get it. Um you dislike it or I I the voice is certainly at the beginning, just threw me way off.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 3:16

And I and I'm like, I don't know what the heck I'm listening to here. Exactly. I probably have to listen to it a lot in order to get to the point to where I'm like, oh, okay, this is cool because it just throws me.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

Well, I listened to it a lot, and where it fades out here at the end, I particularly liked. Anyway, got a little lesson in Kate Bush, and really all I knew of hers that I listened to with any regularity was Don't Give Up, Peter Gabriel. Right. And she sang in the chorus of that. Okay. Yep. Of that song. Um, so I I knew that, you know, this kind of to me, screechy soprano voice I was familiar with.

SPEAKER_03 4:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Uh, but I was never a fan of anything of hers I heard.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Look, I I I get uh Yoko Ono's, you know, do you grandkid out of this, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Oh, I thought you were gonna say I get Yoko Ono's popularity or something. Oh no, no. Yeah, no, exactly. Exactly. Well, that from the beginning of it.

SPEAKER_03 4:27

Yeah, at the beginning. That's where I mean I it it went off the rails immediately for me. Right. And then it kind of tried to fix itself. And you know, I mean the song does admirably, I guess, but you know, then I I'm still lost.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

Right. And I know that it's called Wuthering Heights, and that she apparently wrote a lot of music inspired by literature, films, I don't know. Um what do you call it? Echrastic.

SPEAKER_03 4:59

Um I don't know. I don't know that word.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

It's it means when you're inspired by paintings or literature or to in poetry it's used a lot. Anyhow, um I there you go. Yeah, there's Wuthering Heights Kate Bush.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

Now, my favorite version of uh Wuthering Heights is the semaphore version.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

What what the heck is that?

SPEAKER_03 5:25

It's a it's a Monty Python sketch. Oh yeah, Wuthering Heights, the semaphore version. It's really hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

Well, see, she may have, you know, that was what the early 70s? Yeah. Yeah, well, so she started up in the late 70s. She had some kind of hit in the UK in 1978, I think. Um, so her career goes back quite a ways. Anyway, there she is, and then she had this huge thing because they used a song in the um soundtrack of a Stranger Things episode.

SPEAKER_03 6:05

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

And suddenly, you know, she became very well known again.

SPEAKER_03 6:12

Right.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

At this late stage, Kate's about 70 something years old now. She's always been clever. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

She owns every single bit of her music, which is astounding.

Music Rights & Bittersweet Battles

SPEAKER_00 6:26

And which is a lesson that was learned very hard by a lot of very well known people.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

Exactly. A lot of people got completely ripped off.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

It's gotta be so hard when you're starting out, right, and you're a songwriter, and a record company comes to you and says, We want to sign you.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

We want to buy this song. And here are the turn the terms, you know. Um, and you're like, Yes, yes, I'll sign, I'll sign. You know, I mean, these days people have more wherewithal.

SPEAKER_03 7:01

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

But I can totally see where um that was a bold move in the 70s.

SPEAKER_03 7:08

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

To say to a record company, wait, I've got caveats here.

SPEAKER_03 7:14

Right, yeah. It's brilliant, absolutely brilliant, and obviously paying attention to what was happening at the time. So yeah. And it has served her very well.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

You know, I did a deep dive into the Verve Bittersweet Symphony thing recently. And the whole thing with the Rolling Stones, I think, was so tragic. I really do. Um, you know, they had an agreement with the Rolling Stones that they were gonna lift some of that uh music, but the music they were lifting wasn't actually theirs.

SPEAKER_03 8:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:01

It was an orchestral piece that someone else had done based on oh shoot, what song is it? I don't know. Oh, I can't remember another story. Which role you don't?

SPEAKER_03 8:15

No.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

You know the verb Bittersweet Symphony. Yeah. They earned$1,000 on one of the biggest songs of the 90s.

SPEAKER_03 8:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

Because the Rolling Stones sued them after the fact when it became a huge hit.

SPEAKER_03 8:33

Saying it sounded too much like something on there?

SPEAKER_00 8:39

They had an agreement to dub a certain part of it. I see. Like however many seconds, eight seconds, and then they came back and this thing went through the roof. Huge hit, one of the biggest hits of the 90s. Yeah. And they said, Nope, you took too much, and they won in court, and the Verve never saw a penny.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Oh, that's insane.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

I know, yeah, like the freaking Rolling Stones, like they couldn't afford to have this one band that they had an agreement with, you know, yeah, yeah, I get it. Earn the money. And then in 2019, the Rolling Stones said, okay, we'll give Richard uh Ashcroft, we'll we'll let him be part of, you know, he'll be listed as a writer.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

As one of the writers. So you've got Jagger, Richards, and Ashcroft.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

And screw them, I say. Okay. It's a huge tragedy. Anyway, talking about uh owning your songs and stuff. Right. It's a horrible story. I did something that I'm so happy I did.

SPEAKER_03 10:03

What did you do?

Rewatching The Sixth Sense

SPEAKER_00 10:04

I was listening to something, uh podcast talking about the Sixth Sense, the film. Yeah. Bruce Willis, Haley Joel Osmond, and Tony Collette of all people. A huge movie. And I realized all I remember about that film is the little clips and outtakes that are just part of the Zeitgeist that you see all the time. Like I see dead people, right? And that I went to see it in Canada with Jacob Moon, who was my movie date often because we were two single people who um loved going to the movies. Yeah. So that's what I remembered is that I had gone to the Power Center in Burlington. I remember walking out, and Jacob and I were like, uh-huh, what a film.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

No spoilers.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

Well, and and I realized I don't remember anything. So I watched it.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 11:17

How about that, huh?

SPEAKER_00 11:19

People, if you've never seen The Sixth Sense, and I'm looking at you, Lindsay and Chuck, just saying. Oh, really? I'm I'm guessing I don't know if they saw it or not. Okay, yeah. But I bet there are a lot of people now who were we children when it came out, or who were born since it came out.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

And other people like myself who just either don't remember or never saw it. It's fantastic. Yeah. It is so fantastic. Uh so see it. And it's kind of given me a little, a little pep in my step about, you know, making a list of my favorite movies or great films, and then seeing, wait, do I really remember that?

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

Or is it just lodged in my head as something like that?

SPEAKER_03 12:15

Just like we did uh with uh three days of the condor the other day, you know, when Robert Redford passed. Right. Well and neither of us, I mean, I remembered some of it because I've seen it, I mean, within the past ten years, maybe, but yeah, I hadn't seen it. Right, you hadn't seen it since the very beginning, or or since you first saw it. Right. And yeah, and there was it was so good.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Yeah, really amazing.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

Sydney Pollock. Wow, incredible directing.

SPEAKER_03 12:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

Um Faye Dunaway. Just like Tootsie. Another one of my favorite movies ever. I could watch that movie on repeat. It's like you and Groundhog Day.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

I just am obsessed by Tootsie. That's another one. If you've never seen it, I recommend it.

SPEAKER_03 13:13

Yeah, that's a very good one. And Groundhog Day, obviously, which was built. I mean, the whole entire movie was made to re-watch. I mean, it's it's the whole you know, kind of the point. Yeah. So and there was so much funny in it. Yeah, there's so many great performances. Yeah. So I'm stuck on that one.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Oh, I know you are. Um, and of course, this is Spinal Tap, which I feel like I need to see again before I see the new one, which is called The End Continues.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

Which is out now, by the way. Um as you're listening to this.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

Gotta see that one.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

The morning show is back. Okay, yep.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

Jennifer and uh Reese.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

Yes. Tig.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Oh, Tig's on it. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

Billy Crutup.

SPEAKER_03 14:07

Right.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Um, John Ham.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

Oh, it's, you know, it's it's a lot of people might recognize.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

And there's some big star that's coming on this season. I don't remember who it is. But anyway, I watched episodes one and two, and I am once again obsessed. Of course, they've only dropped two, or at least as of this weekend, there were only two.

SPEAKER_05 14:33

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

Um and yeah, so now I'm waiting. Like that. I'm waiting.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

There you are.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Yep. Um, it's Yom Kippur this week, and I feel like the morning show owes me a gesture of atonement.

SPEAKER_03 14:51

I see, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

Um remember Yom.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

You're making things difficult.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

So the morning show? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Slow Horses has another season showing. Oh, that's right. Season five of Slow Horses is back out, and Gary Oldman just as greasy as ever. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Such a great performance by him.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

Such a great show. He's one of the great actors. Yes, he's amazing. I've loved him in everything. He's he's so versatile, and this this character is just uh it would be cartoonish, except he's so cartoonish, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

He's so great. And this guy is such a sleazy scumbag slash genius. So it's perfect.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

Yeah, it's really, and if you haven't seen that, you gotta you gotta watch that one too.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Speaking of geniuses, horses that go slow. Brilliant Minds is gonna be back. Oh yeah. The paper or paper is it called?

SPEAKER_03 16:04

I think it's the paper, yeah. And I haven't seen that yet. Is that another Apple thing?

SPEAKER_00 16:10

That is supposed to be absolutely hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

And it's a dun the Is that um Yeah, it's from the people who made the office.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Right, exactly. And then DMV.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

The American version of The Office.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

And DMV, which is made by the people who did Superstore, is coming. That's coming up in a couple weeks.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

So Okay, and one of the guys from The Office is on it. Uh the guy who played Oscar. Oh. Uh yeah, he's part of the cast.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

I can't think of his name, but yeah, you know who I'm talking about. Yep. Yep. Um tons of stuff going on on television. Uh Survivor is back.

SPEAKER_03 17:03

That's yeah, Oscar. Oh, that is his name, Oscar Nunez. So that's good. Yes. Ooh, we could have, we, you know, we could have gotten away with it. With what? With you know just saying Oscar. Just saying Oscar and just left it at that, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:19

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 17:20

Oh, man.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

What do you think about the first episode of the new season of Survivor?

SPEAKER_03 17:26

I um it's it was very um enlightening. Meaning? Meaning, I learned about a lot about all of these people, so much more than actually I think we usually do. I don't know if it's editing or the way it was put together or what. But I learned more about the people in this first episode than I usually do. Most of the time I walk away from the I it's five episodes in before I'm like, I got any idea who anybody is. Right. And I've but I've already started, I've already got an idea. Uh I guess because the personalities are really big.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

They are.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

Yeah. I'm and that's and they're very polarizing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

There, I mean, yeah, it's so the producers did a great job putting this cast together. And of course, I mean, one of the things to me about Survivor is the scenery and the Fiji Islands.

SPEAKER_03 18:29

Um just spectacular.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

I was so, so very fortunate that I was taken there um on a trip to New Zealand to see my great uncle who lived there. Um, but we made we made a trip of it. We went to the Fiji Islands, that was our first stop. And I'm still obsessed. So getting to see it on Survivor and that water and the beaches, yeah. I can just feel it. I love watching that scenery, and then these lunatics running around doing their crazy scheming and plotting and the uh the challenges which have gotten more complex and difficult.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

It's you know, it's like this, you know what it is? The whole season, including the contestants, are all like turbocharged. Everything is cranked up. The challenges are cranked up, the pressure is cranked up, the people are cranked up. Yeah, it's really it's been very interesting already.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

And Amazing Race is also back, of course, because they're like, you know, twin shows.

SPEAKER_03 19:49

Yeah, you gotta have them together there somehow.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Now, what is unbearable to me this year about it is that it's all former Big Brother contestants. Uh winners, losers, whatever. Right, yeah, or fans, polarizing people from that. And Big Brother is a show that I don't know, I watched one time when it first came out. I I can't abide it.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

It is not part of my world. Um, and I don't like the references, you know, I don't want them. I don't it's a whole complication in the amazing race. Um, they did a whole thing, the first episode takes place in the Netherlands, and it is so gorgeous.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

And they did a challenge with Edom Cheese. And all I can think about now is that I want Edom cheese. So in the absence of Eatham cheese, we had friends over this weekend and we gave them some alouette cheese.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

That is true, yes.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Which put you in mind of something.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

Well, I mean, uh, when I was young, I sang that song almost every day.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

The French song that Alouette Gente Alouette. That's all I'm gonna do. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Um, but anyway, uh everybody will I mean that they know that's Aluette Gente Alouette, Aluette, je te plumerais. Yeah. And Michael said, What does aloeta mean?

SPEAKER_03 21:36

Right, because well, because I got some cheese. It says alouetta on the on it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

And I said, Well, it's and I couldn't remember which songbird it was, but I said, Oh, it's about a little bird. It might be a nightingale, it might be a sparrow. And I looked at, it's a lark. Yeah. And I said, but then, Michael, I said, this takes a real Grimms Fairy Tales turn. Because what children don't realize is it's a song to teach you about body parts, essentially. But what it's saying is je te plumerai, which means I will pluck your feet off.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

I'm gonna pluck your feathers, I'm gonna remove your beak, I'm gonna take your feet off.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Well, no, it doesn't say it doesn't say any of that.

SPEAKER_03 22:25

It doesn't say any of that. Oh. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

It says, I will pluck the feathers off your head.

SPEAKER_03 22:32

Right, okay, yep.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Je te plumerai la tête. So I'll I'll defeather your head, and then it goes through. And it's all je te plumerai. Um, it's not I'll cut off your tail or anything like that.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

But it's about tail feathers out one by one.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Well, it is about plucking a dead lark.

SPEAKER_03 22:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

And um, yeah, for a children's song that we all learn to sing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

I mean, I'm traumatized by this song of 63 years old.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

Yes. You know? Well, you're traumatized now. You didn't know until I had no idea. Right. Until Saturday, you didn't know. That's right. Um, and it has bothered me always. Because I always knew what it meant.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

And you are right, it is very uh grim brothers kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Yeah, I mean, there are so many things like that that are, you know, you don't think about it.

SPEAKER_03 23:33

Well, the the Little Mermaid committed suicide.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Right.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

That's the real story.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Right, she did.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

Yeah. That is the real story. Not the the Disney version has got a different story.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Right.

SPEAKER_03 23:46

But uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Well, in my book about the Little Mermaid, which I had as a child, uh-huh. It absolutely says that in the end. You know, that's what happened. She she threw herself into the sea and that's right.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

Well, she didn't know. But she had legs, yeah. Right. So that was it for her.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

Legs. Yeah. I got legs. Uh what was I gonna say about things like that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

Anyway, watch the Sixth Sense and go back and watch films that you've forgotten or that you never saw.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

Yeah because you might be in for a treat.

SPEAKER_03 24:27

I agree. I agree. That was that was fun to do. I didn't watch the whole thing because I actually had just watched a video earlier in that in the day that same day that had like, you know, 20 things you didn't know about the making of the sixth cents and everything. So so much of it was already in my mind, and I'm like, yeah. And I sat down and basically watched the last half of it, and there was so much I didn't remember. Right. So yeah, and it was uh it's just fascinating. Anyway, okay.

Survivor And Amazing Race Returns

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Well, speaking of birds Hello, birds. In Argentina, the land of silver. Argentina, yes, and the Rio Plata, which means Argenta, it is the land of silver. Everything means silver. Argentina or silverland, um, police investigating a murder brought in the victim's parrot. Okay. The bird reportedly squawked, no, por favor, saltame. It's either saltame, I think it's solta me, which means no, please let me go.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

We're gonna say sotomayor. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

Oh, that's soto. This is S-O-L-T-A-M-E.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

SOLTA me.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Please let me go.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

Accusing a Supreme Court justice is a pretty big deal.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

So mimicking the victim's last words. Nice. Apparently. The jury didn't buy it.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

And they should not have.

SPEAKER_00 26:17

But the parrot became a local celebrity. So the parrot's now like smoking cigars and out at the club, saying no, paparazzi, Rico did it, sunglasses, and and repeats all the time. No, por favor, saltame.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

Uh-huh. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Yeah. So you had a parrot testifying um in Silverland. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:47

Um I that just could not have, I mean, in the in the modern day, that couldn't have flown at all.

SPEAKER_00 26:54

Flow insane. Speaking of um stuff about animals and nursery rhymes. Now, see, this is one that oh, ashes, ashes, they all fall.

SPEAKER_03 27:09

Oh my yeah, that's all about the the plague.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

Right.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

Yep. Pocket full of posies.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

Ring around the rosy, a pocket full of posies, ashes, ashes.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

If you had a pocket full of posies, you you would have something that smelled good in your pocket, so you could pull it out and put it in front of your nose because that apparently kept the evil away from you. Right. So that's what that is, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

Well, see, there's another one. Yeah. Well, what about Pop Goes the Weasel? Oh, that's a good question. The mulberry bush. The mulberry bush. The was it a monkey? The monkey. Chase the weasel. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Pop goes the weasel. That's interesting. I don't I don't know. I don't either.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

Where that came from, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Well, a lot of people know that song because um of the ice cream truck.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

Oh, right. That that is true. That's the that's the Was it Mr.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Softy or was it was it good humor?

SPEAKER_03 28:13

It could have been both because they did play different songs. It wasn't always the same song.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

I know there was a particular Mr. Softie song, and I'm not remembering it right now.

SPEAKER_03 28:24

I think it was Pop Go of the Weasel. Was it? Yeah, I I think so.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

Well, in LA, police disguised themselves as an ice cream truck to catch speeding drivers in a school zone. So listen up, people. Yeah. If you see a an ice cream truck blasting Pop Goes the Weasel in a school zone, which is what this ice cream truck was doing, um watch your speed. Yeah. Because then they were pulling people over in the ice cream truck, which suddenly went from da da to bloop, bloop, you know, sirens and flashing lights, and um pulling people over.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

By the way, the band played on uh is one of the songs that the that the ice cream trucks played. Also, Pop Go the Weasel, Turkey in the Straw, and the Mr. Softy Jingle, which is its own thing.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Right. That's what I'm trying to remember.

SPEAKER_03 29:41

Its own thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:42

That's what I need to remember. I I wish that could. If we can play that, that would be wonderful. I totally remember this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

So there you go.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

That reminds me of something I've got a cone for. Well, not just ice cream. Not any ice cream. Yeah. But a Mr. Softy monster.

SPEAKER_03 30:17

Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

And that was one of those double cones, you know, where you would you would have the base of the comb, but then it had like two ice cream holders.

Alouette’s Dark Lyrics

SPEAKER_03 30:28

Oh. Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes. I've yes. I've never had one. I'm not well anyway, they would it was like two cones connected.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Right. It was one cone, but it had like two heads. Right, yeah. Anyway, and ice cream would go on both sides. And then they would put googly candy googly eyes on it, and it was a monster.

SPEAKER_03 30:49

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

And my mother had in the top drawer of her desk this massive box of quarters.

SPEAKER_03 31:03

Ah.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

And she was prepared. She kind of was prepared. I was prepared. Okay. And I spent all those damn quarters on monsters.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

I see. After school. I see.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

And I would grab my sister and take her out there, and yep, we're getting ice cream.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

That's right, you are.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Well, one day, mom came to me and said, Anne, have you taken the quarters out of my desk? And I probably said no at first, but yeah, I copped to it ultimately, tearfully. I was a little kid, I was probably 10. They were silver. It's when they were getting rid of the silver quarters.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

So I spent like$8,000. Yeah. On ice cream. I better. I own some rights to that song. Yeah. I want that song played at my funeral.

SPEAKER_03 32:22

Oh yeah. Okay, we'll do it with a bagpipe. Exactly. Perfect. Make everybody happy.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

You can get the cats, use them.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

Right, of course. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

And Kate Bush. Exactly. We're good. Um, so for Yom Kippur, I would like to atone. I wish I could, Mom, if you can hear me, I'm sorry I took the quarters. Okay? I am sorry about that. Uh so the ice cream truck song. Yeah. Now, speaking of trucks, this is crazy. A self-driving sort of hybrid vehicle, like a truck car sort of situation, but a self-driving one in rural Switzerland came to a standstill during a test drive because it couldn't quote decide whether what in the road, the cow that was in the road, was a pedestrian, a vehicle, or an obstacle.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Oh no. Okay, well.

SPEAKER_00 33:37

Now, if it was an obstacle, it would have put its whatever um signal on and gone around it. Okay. Right. Or if it was a pedestrian or a vehicle, whatever the appropriate moves were. Right. But it couldn't figure out what this cow was.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

So it didn't know what to do.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

So it just stopped 45 minutes until the farmer came along.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

Oh my God, that is so funny.

SPEAKER_00 34:15

Just, you know, by happenstance, came along and said, Oh, come and see here, Bessie. Come on, Bessie. Yes. Did you say, hear me say Bessie, or did we both say that?

Ice Cream Trucks, Jingles, And Quarters

SPEAKER_03 34:28

No, I was it was in my head before you before I heard you say it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

Yeah. So obviously that's what the cow's name was, Bessie's.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

Okay, right. Well, that's the Elmer's glue cow, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Isn't that Elsie?

SPEAKER_03 34:42

Oh yeah, it's Elsie. You're right. Yeah, Elmer. I don't know why we came up with Bessie, both of us. I don't either. That's very well, I'm maybe. Maybe I do know.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

Well, you know, there's been a lot of married a while. We have been, and there's been a lot of child's play so far on this show.

SPEAKER_03 34:59

Yeah, we're talking about uh, you know, nursery rhymes and such.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Yeah. And ice cream truck jingles.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

And cheese.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

Eat 'em cheese.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Oh. I need some Eatem cheese. I do believe I put that on the grocery list. I don't know how it came out. Um but it yeah, I don't know. Eat 'em has never been like in my top ten rotation of favorite cheeses.

SPEAKER_03 35:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

But seeing it being stacked, you know, those yellow waxy balls to eat them being stacked. Um in in the Netherlands. You know, everything in the Netherlands tastes so good. It really one of the best places to eat. One of the best places to eat.

SPEAKER_03 35:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

Um, yeah, you've got your I've never been there.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

You know, all along the um canals on the bridges, you've got vendors. And so one of the things are fresh, fresh stroop waffles.

SPEAKER_03 36:14

Oh. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:17

So literally right off the press.

SPEAKER_03 36:19

Oh, that would be good.

SPEAKER_00 36:21

They come out like they're like little waffle cookies with caramel centers.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

Oh, yeah. Well, that's one of the reasons I used to go to IKEA all the time because that was the only place I could find them in, you know, back in the day.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Back in the day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:35

And oh man. You can get them. I can get them in the grocery store now. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Uh it's one of those things that eventually became p popular and wasn't just street folk in the Netherlands. Um, and herring.

SPEAKER_03 36:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

And my mother used to just stand there eating herring one after the other until my father was like, uh, Emily, let's go. Come on. He would be so over it. Um, yeah, my mother was a herring hound. She used to eat herring for breakfast. Yeah. A real Swede she was. Um there was a cheese heist in Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Yep. Cheese thievery. Well, thieves made off with more than twenty thousand dollars worth of Parmazon.

SPEAKER_03 37:34

Oh. So the real thing, you mean? Yes. Yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:40

From a storage facility in Wisconsin. Oh, wow. And um the police warned residents if you've if you're offered suspiciously cheap Parmesan, please contact authorities. Yes. I mean, only in Wisconsin, right?

SPEAKER_03 38:02

Well, yeah. I mean, they they're very serious there about Parmesan. They are serious about their cheese.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

Yeah. But a wheel of Parmesan cheese, of authentic Parmesan cheese, is a fortune. Yeah, it is. I mean, you know, you would think that making off with$20,000 worth of cheese would require an 18-wheeler, right?

SPEAKER_03 38:25

No, a couple guys with a backpack each. Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_00 38:32

$20,000? It would be a little more than a backpack each.

SPEAKER_03 38:36

Well, let's see, how much would a wheel of that be? Like 50 pounds, right? I mean, a big wheel of Parmesan, I think it's like 50 pounds.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

Yeah, but I don't know how much one I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

That's what I'm saying. You throw it in your backpack and then you know you're off. You run off.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

Right, but I don't think you've got twenty thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

I don't think it's it's ten grand a wheel. Um I'm looking it up. Okay. Because I feel like I have to. Do you have a way to educate us today?

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Yes, I do. And here's something that may it's gonna take a uh I'm gonna ask a couple questions, but it may really kind of surprise you. Um it's a science thing. So let's talk about the universe is expanding. You're aware of this, right? Yes. At what speed is the universe expanding? Do you know? At what speed?

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Yes. Like miles per hour?

SPEAKER_03 39:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 39:47

I I don't know because it it is expanding at the speed of light. Okay. Okay. So however, that's not really that's not really how fast it's expanding.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

So it's expanding by parsec.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

No, no, I'll I'll I'll explain. Okay. If you take one point, like where we are, right here on Earth, right, the universe is expanding in every direction. Right. That means uh from one point it's expanding east and it's expanding west. So that relative to each other, it's expanding at twice the speed of light. Okay. Which is technically not something that should be able to happen, but it does. And it is all the time.

SPEAKER_00 40:46

Gosh, I feel so much smarter. I so understand that. I can totally grasp that.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Yeah, the the the universe is expanding at twice the speed of light.

Self‑Driving Car Meets Cow

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Now, is that why the thing I told you about being able to go from any two points on earth directly is the same?

SPEAKER_03 41:12

No, no, no. Okay. It also has to do with this other this uh oh man. I had it in my head and then you made me and then I was thinking of something else and I lost it. Uh, we'll come back to it.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 41:27

Yeah, we'll have to come back to it.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

All right.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

A full wheel is expanding at twice the speed of light.

SPEAKER_00 41:35

All right. I will bear that in mind. Um a full wheel of Parmigiano Reggiano. Yeah. 80 pounds.

SPEAKER_03 41:46

Okay, 80 pounds. All right.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

$3,000. Okay. Uh approximately.

SPEAKER_03 41:53

Okay, so you're gonna need a small pickup.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

Well, it depends on well, a small pickup. So three times seven, you're gonna need seven wheels. Yeah, right? Um you need to.

SPEAKER_03 42:06

So you can roll them all right in the back of a pickup.

SPEAKER_00 42:09

Uh you can get them into a car, right?

SPEAKER_03 42:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:13

Uh I'm just thinking for ease of access for each other.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

Now um, yeah, so but that de it depends entirely on how aged it is. So if it's a Parmesan or Reggiano, that's three grand. If it's a different, you know, if it's been aged, say 24 months, um, it's around 1,500.

SPEAKER_03 42:43

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

All right. Uh and if it's a Roca Parmigiano, you're around 1600. So the 3,000 is for a woo full wheel of authentic, well-aged cheese.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:00

Uh and then you're paying for high quality, you're looking at about$13 a pound. Yeah. Which is not too much. No. Okay. Not too much. So those are our cheese stories.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

Yeah. Um pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Yeah. You know, in Kentucky, this happens all the time, but this time it's really kind of happening. Okay. In a very small Kentucky town. A chicken has been registered as a write-in candidate for mayor. What's this campaign slogan, Michael? Um, a uh person in every pot. Cluck the system. Oh my goodness. All right. I love it. And residents are taking it half seriously. There are yard signs everywhere with the chicken's face and the slogan cluck the system. Oh, that's so funny. Yeah. And so it's looking like this chicken could win the popular vote. Right.

SPEAKER_03 44:22

Oh, that's awesome. And I am we know of a cat. We did a story about a cat who who's the mayor of a town.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:29

Um, that actually happened.

SPEAKER_03 44:32

Yeah, that did happen. It's i I think he might still be the mayor, actually.

Netherlands Food Crush: Edam & Stroopwafels

SPEAKER_00 44:35

Like in some tiny town in the UK or something, right? Um a guy, I love this too. Um, in today is like all about animals. A dog in Chile ran onto a soccer field in the middle of the match, stole the ball and dribbled it past two defenders before someone someone was able to grab it and get it off the field. And that earned by far the loudest cheers of the game. Oh, absolutely, yes, absolutely. And local fans are campaigning, this is animals being campaigned for, to have him be signed to the team. And I think there should be dog soccer teams.

SPEAKER_03 45:34

Oh, I I agree, yeah. And the rules are I mean, we have the puppy bowl every year, right?

SPEAKER_00 45:40

Yeah. Which uh please. But I think you need I think we need a soccer field fenced in and a few balls.

SPEAKER_03 45:52

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

And then however many balls go in.

SPEAKER_03 45:59

That's right, just kill all of them.

SPEAKER_00 46:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:01

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 46:02

However many end up in a goal, um, you know, win.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

Absolutely. I think this is a you got a great idea here.

SPEAKER_00 46:11

I think I do. Yeah. I think I have something happening here.

SPEAKER_03 46:15

You have to get some TV people involved.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

There are these cat cafes that we've talked about before where you can go hang out and drink your latte and have a cat jump in your lap and whatever.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

Um, and there are lots of them in Japan. Okay. Well, I want a place you can go where there are dogs. Ah. Where there are puppies. And in particular, dochins.

SPEAKER_03 46:40

Yeah, that would be great, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_00 46:42

I've seen so many fantastic doch and puppy videos.

SPEAKER_04 46:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

And I want one, don't want one. I mean, I sort of have one. I have a velcro dog. Um, but she's not dochin Velcro.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

No.

SPEAKER_00 47:00

I mean, dochins like obsess on their owners. Yes, yeah, they really do. To the point where the owners lose their minds a little bit. I've seen that happen. Yeah, like they can't sleep because the dochin is just constantly burrowing into your neck, right, your head, your whatever.

SPEAKER_03 47:26

Yeah, can't get close enough. They've got to be on the other side of you.

SPEAKER_00 47:30

And will not leave you alone. I mean, if they don't have your full focus and attention, you're gonna hear about it. You will. You will hear all this right about it. Uh this is I I got two other minor stories that I really like.

SPEAKER_03 47:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

A traveler at JFK, and this is a true story, people, was stopped by TSA because he had a suitcase filled entirely with garlic bulbs. Oh my god. An entire suitcase of garlic.

SPEAKER_03 48:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

And um the garlic farmer? No, two suitcases, um, one with regular stuff in it, one full of garlic. What do you think it was for?

SPEAKER_03 48:30

Uh vampire convention.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

Yes. Ha! He was going to a Halloween convention. This just happened this weekend in Transylvania.

SPEAKER_03 48:44

Oh, I've heard about this, yes. At Vlad's Castle.

SPEAKER_00 48:48

And they said TSA posted it on Instagram with the caption Dracula is on the no-fly list. Which I'm glad to know. I don't want Dracula sitting next to me. Oh, no, no, no. No, and what? I mean, I love garlic as much as anyone, but for Stunt, I don't want a plane, I don't want to land in Transylvania or anywhere with a suitcase that reeks of garlic.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Yeah, true. No. True. And that's a one-use suitcase.

Parmesan Heist Math

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Right. Well, maybe not for this clown. Right. But I don't want to end up um also sitting on a plane that reeks of garlic. Yep. That reeks of anything. And one of my favorite things this week, because we live in the land of amazing events. We truly do. In Ohio, the police got a 911 call from a man who was in a drive-thru line that was too long. And he wanted the police to bring him a cheeseburger. Now, fortunately, because stuff like this happens all day and all night on emergency lines, which is horrific. Yeah, yeah, true. Um, and most of it gets hung up on and ignored, whatever, um, once they clear that it's not actually someone signaling that they're having a problem. Yeah. Um, so the cops there, wherever this was in Ohio, had enough time to show up and give this guy a citation for misuse of emergency services.

SPEAKER_03 51:00

Good. No cheeseburger for you. Right. Oh, that's very funny. No Coke, Pepsi. No coke, Pepsi. Yeah. Uh that's very I you know I remembered my other thing.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

Tell me.

SPEAKER_03 51:14

Okay, it's another science thing.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

Tell me, tell me.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

Okay. Imagine you are a photon of light. Okay. Okay. Yes. You go the speed of light. Right. That's your speed. That's fast. Yes. What when you uh as you approach the speed of light, time slows down. When you are at the speed of light, time stops completely. So if you are a photon of light that escaped during the Big Bang, and you reach Earth, you've done it the very same time it happened. Because time has stopped the whole way. For that photon of light, there is no time. It doesn't matter how far it goes, there's no time because it's going at the speed of light.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

I need for your instructions, I need a whiteboard, and I need you standing up there with a pointer.

SPEAKER_03 52:17

It's a Neil deGrasse Tyson story, by the way, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:20

Yes. Or Neil deGrasse Tyson standing up there in front of a whiteboard explaining it to me, which is how I learned about this thing that I can't explain.

SPEAKER_03 52:31

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

Where he says, from any two points on earth, um, if you like drill a hole from any two points from any point to any other point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:45

It's 90 minutes, right?

SPEAKER_00 52:47

I think that's what it is. Yeah. Um now I have to look this up. Okay. What else do you have?

SPEAKER_03 52:54

Well, that's what I have. I mean, that was two very, you know, speed of light related things there, you know.

SPEAKER_00 53:01

Well, so why I know, but I don't understand. Why are you why is it getting to Earth that makes it stand still? Time standing.

SPEAKER_03 53:11

It's not getting to Earth. It's just going at the speed of light that makes time stand still.

SPEAKER_00 53:18

Okay, but you said so when it get when you get to Earth.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

If you are a photon, right, like everything that is illuminating the sky, photons of light, they've all been, they all came from the Big Bang, and they all happened just then. Right. And they're here just that fast to them. Because there is no time between the time they started and the time they got here because they've been going the speed of light.

SPEAKER_00 53:57

I just want to cry because I just don't. This is the science. This is the science.

SPEAKER_03 54:07

The science, yeah. Show.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:10

No, it's it's more animals, really. We got a lot of animal stuff, really. You know.

SPEAKER_00 54:15

It is. It's science, it's animals, it's nursery rhymes.

SPEAKER_03 54:19

Animals of science. I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 54:23

You need a um a thing for that.

SPEAKER_03 54:26

I do.

Cosmic Speed & Light-Time Brain Bender

SPEAKER_00 54:26

Well, in the along along the lines that we've been on, I was thinking about now. I remember her name being Miss Jeannie. Oh, yeah. From Romper Brown. There was a Miss Louise. There was a Miss If You Know, you know. Yeah. That's what I have to say about this situation. The magic mirror.

SPEAKER_03 54:50

Yeah, I think I remember Miss Jeannie. Um, I think that's who I remember. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Right. Well, there were a few different teachers. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_03 55:01

But do you remember the rhyme? Uh the um not no, not exactly. Not anymore.

SPEAKER_00 55:10

Romper, bumper, stomper, boo. Oh, you remembered it.

SPEAKER_03 55:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:16

Tell me, tell me, tell me, do. Magic mirror. Tell me today. Did all my friends have fun at play? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:28

Well, I'm looking at you all out there. Um, I see Jose Lynn. I see Ollie. I see Chuck. I see all the citizens of Provincetown.

SPEAKER_03 55:44

I see Nicholas over there.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

Cape Cod and the world, which includes Australia. And we see Nicholas over there. And Craig. And we hear James Taylor, September Grass. So for this final stunningly beautiful last day of September, please put a light on.

SPEAKER_02 56:19

But the grass is as soft as a feather in a fella. Oh. So I'll be king. It's a jumper crack. Yeah. Sweetest cut. Oh, yes. All that's all that only to crack.

Animal Antics: Chicken Mayor & Dog Striker

SPEAKER_01 59:14

I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.