The Anne Levine Show with Michael Over There

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A stuffed sloth looming over I‑5, five yaks crashing a middle school lunch, and a python weaving through a drive‑thru might sound like pure chaos—but this hour uses the absurd to reset our senses before we face something heavier. We start with a frank rewatch of Urban Cowboy: a glittering soundtrack wrapped around characters we can’t love, and the sharp dissonance that creates. We trace its DNA into Landman, talk about how live music at Gilley’s gave the film grit, and then shift to Muriel’s WeddingToni Collette’s brave transformation and the way friendship stories carry more power than most pep talks. Along the way, Conan Without Borders gets its due, from Cuba’s warmth to the surreal Larry Bird moment in Israel, and we unpack SmartLess, where Bateman, Arnett, and Hayes spin friction into laughter and reveal how chemistry is crafted, not luck.

The middle stretch is playful and pointed: the mystery of the giant sloth above I‑5, yak TikToks and school mascots, a misprinted lottery ticket that paid out big, a GTA 6 meltdown powered by a confusion of reality, and the reality of animal control versus internet bravado when a python shows up at a burger window. We even talk boundaries and consequences after a disturbing retail incident, and why public spaces demand vigilance - and cameras. These stories aren’t throwaway—they’re a lens on how we navigate surprise, risk, and responsibility in everyday life.

Then we turn toward October 7 and the Nova Music Festival memorial now in Boston. We describe the exhibit’s design—cars, bullet‑scarred tents, bracelets, phones—and why it insists on witness over spectacle. We say the names we have, note proof‑of‑life reports including American hostage Edan Alexander, and repeat a simple truth: these are civilians. Fatigue is real, but so is the possibility of return and renewal; history holds examples of people who endured captivity and still built meaningful lives. The ask is modest and urgent: visit the exhibit if you can, keep a light on, and don’t let memory be replaced by the scroll.

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Opening, Station IDs, Today’s Date

SPEAKER_00

I've been gone for so long. Hello everyone. It's so good now to get back home.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to the Anne Lean Show. Starring Michael over there.

SPEAKER_06

Hello.

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And it's Tuesday, October 7th, a rather auspicious day. We're coming to you from WOMR 92.1 FM in Provincetown.

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And WFMR 91.3 FM Orleans. And we're streaming worldwide at WOMR.org. And what's suspicious about October 7th?

Urban Cowboy Rewatch & Dissonance

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's the second anniversary of the October 7th massacre at the Nova Music Festival in Israel. But I will be addressing that in more detail later. This is Don't It Make You Wanna Dance, Bonnie Ree. And it's from the soundtrack of Urban Cowboy. 1980 film starring John Travolta and Deborah Winger. And they're both so adorable. They're both edible with a spoon. And I've been trying to catch up on movies that I should have seen. And I never did for whatever reason. It didn't sound appealing to me for some reason. I'm not sure what reason. Did you see it originally?

SPEAKER_06

Uh no. I did not.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so you didn't.

SPEAKER_06

I very rarely saw first run movies back then because most of them I thought were garbage. Like like this one. I didn't I didn't care for this one at all because I don't like either I don't like any of the characters in it. Uh-huh. I don't think any of them are nice people. I I don't like them. So, you know, I n I never have liked it. And I didn't understand at the time, uh, because I of what I knew about it, I didn't understand its popularity. So I still don't, but that's okay. I mean, uh got a great soundtrack.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't think it was supposed to be a movie about good people. Um, that's not the vibe I got. It was a movie about really awful people. Um still didn't like it. No, I get it. I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying that um if you're expecting uh to watch this and see a feel-good film, it's not. It's pretty dark.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And there is um, in spite of the soundtrack, you know, so so there's a lot of um cognitive dissonance. I mean, there there are amazing scenes um of dancing, of two-stepping.

SPEAKER_06

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

John Travolta, oh my god. Waltzing. And waltzing and two-stepping, amazing dancer. Um, and of course, then there's Scott Glenn playing one of the most horrendous people of all time.

SPEAKER_06

And the whole bull riding thing. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, it's it's a like I said, it's real dark. Um, and it has a lot of um kind of landman vibes to it.

SPEAKER_06

I wouldn't be surprised if whoever put together Landman didn't grab uh some inspiration, some, yeah, something from this. Yeah, that makes that makes really good sense, actually.

SPEAKER_01

Because especially that moment when um John Travolta almost falls off this oil rig that's you know, a couple hundred feet up in the sky. Right. Um, that was a total landman scene. Um, so if you haven't seen Landman,

Landman Parallels and Soundtrack Talk

SPEAKER_01

see it. It's amazing. Um, it's Billy Bob Thornton. Billy Bob. And John Ham and Oh, all kinds of there's so many people in it. So many incredible people.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Excuse me, and Urban Cowboy also has a bazillion names that you'll know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And um, you've got an amazing soundtrack, and a lot of people were singing live.

SPEAKER_06

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We're playing live.

SPEAKER_06

Mickey Gilly, Charlie Daniels Band. Well, I think most of them was all done live at Gilly's in in Pasadena, Texas.

SPEAKER_01

So, which is outside of Houston, I think. Yeah. So uh anyway, it was interesting to see, and um, it's a movie that's still referenced frequently, and I just felt like okay, there's one. I looked up lists of like the greatest movies of the 80s, greatest movies of the 90s. I couldn't believe that the 90s list I had mostly seen. Oh, okay, all right, with the exception of a few foreign language films. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06

How about how about this one? How about Little Big Man? Seen that one? Yes. Okay,

Muriel’s Wedding and Transformation

SPEAKER_06

all right. I wasn't sure you had. Dustin. Because that's a that's one you don't want to miss.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It's great. And I watched Muriel's Wedding.

SPEAKER_06

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Which is another one with Baby Tony Collette. Baby adorable.

SPEAKER_06

I did not recognize.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and I looked this up because she looked definitely heavier than I've ever seen her look. She's always skinny.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And she gained 40 pounds in seven weeks.

SPEAKER_06

Right, to do that roll.

SPEAKER_01

To do that roll. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And I am so jealous because 40 pounds in seven weeks sounds like that's a lot of ice cream and pizza and all kinds of goods. And then she dropped it all right off.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, I guess once she she went back to just doing what she normally does, um, she she returned to her normal weight and is still very a very slim person. Oh, yeah. But Muriel's wedding is really interesting. It takes place in Australia. If you don't know this, Tony Collette's Australian. And so this takes place in Australia um in someplace called Porpoise Point. I don't know where that is, what that is, and also in Sydney. And oh, Rachel Griffiths is in this baby Rachel Griffiths. Yes. Maybe you remember her from Six Feet Under. Um, maybe, yeah. She's done a lot of movie, a lot of television. You'll probably recognize her. She's fantastic. And it's it's a really um, there are lots of people in this who are despicable. Well, there's one person. Well, no, there are several people who are despicable, yeah. But uh Tony Colette, Muriel, and her best friend Rhonda are wonderful people, and so it's about them basically battling um their own demons and these lousy people. And the forces of evil. Yeah, and they come through on the other side. Um, a lot of it's funny, really funny. Um, so you know, it it shows it shows two young women rising to meet a lot of challenges, and some of the challenges are absolutely well, they're huge.

SPEAKER_06

They're very challenging.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but it's lighthearted and funny, and it's Australian. Come on, Muriel's wedding. Watch it, people you uh, right.

Conan Without Borders Highlights

SPEAKER_01

Um, I watched by accident Conan Without Borders. Who which one? The Cuba edition, okay, which I had never seen. And it's absolutely hilarious. Yeah, well, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. The Conan Without Borders, those are the ones that are available, not all of them are, but the ones that are are on HBO Max. And one of the best ones of all time is the Israel one. Yeah, it's Conan in Israel. It's pretty great. And so can't recommend Giant Catholic boy. Yes, fantastic. Um, oh, and some of the some really funny stuff happens there. Yeah. Um, like he gets mistaken for um Larry Bird. Mm-hmm. And, you know, so there's one, there's this one guy on the street, you know, that walks by and Conan says to him something like, he's standing online to shake Conan's hand. And Conan says, Hello, sir, what is your name? And he says, David, or whatever he says. And Conan says, Do you recognize me? He says, Yes, you play basketball, Celtics.

SPEAKER_06

And he's a hundred percent positive. Yeah, absolutely. Well, and I wouldn't argue with him.

SPEAKER_01

I know, right?

SPEAKER_06

Like you are, exactly right.

SPEAKER_01

Well, when he said it, it was like, oh my god, I totally get how I mean you you won't know this, but Israelis are fanatical about basketball. They love it and they watch American basketball.

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Because other basketball, eh, not so much. Yeah, they say basketball from another planet. That's what yeah, that's what they call American basketball. Um, so yeah, people, I'm urging you to watch, I'm once again urging you, watch films that you never watched for whatever reason. And if they're on a list of, you know, some of the best movies ever, watch them. Yeah. Jeremiah Johnson.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, that's another movie. Speaking of Robert Redford, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Michael loves that film.

SPEAKER_06

That's a great, it's a great old movie, man. It's yeah, yeah. It's a great movie. So watch that one. I think there's uh there's some um uh actual reality in the story as well. You know, I think he was a real person.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, or based on a real person. So well and when you watch it, it's really pretty surprising, you know.

SPEAKER_01

So it is. Yeah. Um oh, also last week I was talking about the Sixth Sense.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

If you still haven't watched it ever, get on that now. That's a very good one.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta watch that. Um, and she mentioned my my niece Lindsay, who I had said shouted out, and I said, You, I'm I'm thinking of you, Lindsay, and you need to watch this, and Chuck, you need to watch this. Anyhow, they have seen it, and she said also City of Angels.

SPEAKER_06

Uh-huh, yes.

SPEAKER_01

And that was Nicolas Cage and Meg Ryan. You gotta watch it.

SPEAKER_06

Gotta watch it.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

That's what I heard.

SPEAKER_01

It's really good. And Conan Without Borders, HBO Max.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I was gonna say my friend Nell um recommended that I watch um Smartless.

SmartLess: Chemistry and Quirks

SPEAKER_01

Do you know about Smartless, Michael? I know the name, but I don't Well, Smartless is a podcast, and it's the kind of trio of friends thing, similar to handsome, but it's Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, and Sean Hayes. Okay. All right, the craziest trio. And what they do is um it's a very similar setup. Each week, one of the three of them brings on a guest.

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And it's a surprise to the other two.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, good one. I sound I like the sound of that already.

SPEAKER_01

And they bring on, I mean, they have people like Ariana Grande showed up.

SPEAKER_06

All right, who pulled her? Um, um Sean, I'm guessing, but uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Was it Sean? Were they in a I I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

That's just my guess.

SPEAKER_01

She was in something with I think it was Sean. I think they did something together on Broadway.

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um so That's awesome. Yeah. And um Kamala Harris Oh, nice, was on pretty much name name the pe Vivek Murphy. Oh, yeah. Was on. Um, he was the surgeon general.

SPEAKER_06

He was a former surgeon general, yeah. And uh uh big shot at Brigham and Women's. Yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um pretty much anyone you can think of, Arnold Schwarzenegger, I mean, name Julia Roberts.

SPEAKER_06

Nicely done, yeah. Yeah, Peter.

SPEAKER_01

And so between the three of them, they oh, and Tegnataro, who was absolutely hilarious. Um, she had them rolling, and they all dig at each other. Sean is very much um the butt of a lot of jokes. But now here's a little moment I'm gonna mention to you. Jason Bateman. Um, oh shoot, who was it? It was Ricky Gervais. Okay, yeah. Ricky, I listened to the Ricky Gervais one, and he mentioned that he they zoom in, a lot of them do, depending, you know. And he so he was in the UK in his house, and they were saying, Oh, what's out there at that window? And he said, Oh, it's the Vicar's house. And Jason Baintman says, Vicar? How do you spell that? Oh, they're like V-I-C-A-R. He didn't know what a vicar is. Okay. Well, needless to say, and well deserved, that man was totally slammed. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Come on, man, you got through all of this, all of this part of your life. I've never heard of the word vicar or the vicar of Dibley. You've never seen that wonderful television show, one of the funniest things ever made. It's not like Michael Vick, you know, not like a or anything. It's not like, you know, hey, the place where a lot a lot of people like Michael Vick hang out. No, that's not it.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's a totally like it's a pedestrian word. I mean, you maybe don't hear it as although it's not okay, it's not a huge American word.

SPEAKER_06

We don't use it a lot.

SPEAKER_01

No, but if I had to describe a house on church grounds where the minister lived, I would call it a vicarage.

SPEAKER_06

Call it a vicarage, yep.

SPEAKER_01

I wouldn't know any other word for that. I would call it a parsonage.

SPEAKER_06

Or parsonage. That's that's also another, I mean, that's a word I learned for too. But vicarage is a perfectly good word, and I've used it uh, I've heard it most of my life. So I don't know. I don't that's really funny. I'm glad they gave him crap for it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it was endless. I mean, the whole rest of the show was just like, let's slam Jason. Yeah. And it was well deserved. So Nell had mentioned to me that there was sort of a documentary, like six episodes, and it's of them on the road. Oh, okay. Doing live shows. And I watched one of them, and it's cute. Um, I would say listen to the pod. Um, yeah. Listen to the pod if you're interested, if that sounds interesting to you. And um, and it has this really funny energy. I mean, those three guys.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know, if you were pulling names out of a hat is the only way I can imagine you.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I don't see how you get them all together, but uh, hey, that's cool that it happened. That's really that's funny.

SPEAKER_01

And Will Arnett is such a pain in the butt. Oh, he is, and he's so dry and so his humor is so off sometimes that uh yeah, it's really uh Jason is all like Jason is really picky about what he eats and about his sort what he wears, like his personal sort of regimens. Right. And he gets no end of grief about it, and uh again, deservedly so. Yeah. So he's kind of like a little, oh I don't know what's the word, vicory. He's a little I don't know, just particular and a little peculiar, and it's just really interesting to see how these personalities unfold and interact. It's a lot of oil and water, a lot, but but to hilarious effect. Um and I I try to imagine them hanging out together and it doesn't pan out.

SPEAKER_06

Not yeah, it's not an easy image to conjure up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So

The Sloth Above I‑5 Saga

SPEAKER_01

well, my go, I have a a story for you in particular because it takes place on the I5 in Washington State.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. I will um I will can it can I help you right away?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. If it's on Interstate 5 in the state of Washington, it's I-5. Oh, you don't say the I-5. Absolutely not. That means you're from California. Well, that's not from around them parts.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I was gonna say, because you never say the in any parts around here. Right. You wouldn't say the 90 or the three or the 6A or the anything.

SPEAKER_06

No, you might say the throughway or something like that. But that's you know, that's different. Yeah, not the right. You wouldn't say the five or the four oh five.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I was thinking West Coast, you throw on the the because it's like the 405, the whatever, the stuff you hear about about California. Yeah, and I was thinking that it's a West Coast. Anyway, on Washington State's I-5, um, there's been a very mysterious roadside creature. And this has been for a year now. Um, and people are driving by this and are reporting that there's a huge, mysterious creature in a tree. Okay, and it's been there for ages. So the Department of Transportation finally goes out there and it's an eight-foot giant stuffed sloth. And it's been overlooking the I-5, it's been overlooking I-5 for a year.

SPEAKER_06

And that's very, very funny.

SPEAKER_01

No one knows who put it there. Um, they took it down for safety reasons, and people were furious. Oh man.

Yak Recess and Mascot Debate

SPEAKER_01

And one driver said it was the only thing keeping me sane on my commute.

SPEAKER_06

That's very funny. That is a really boring commute where this at is that this is very northern Washington. So it's like um the last town before you get into Canada, actually. I see. So it's a long stretch of nothing in between a couple towns that have malls. You know, that's right. Yeah. Well That's very funny.

SPEAKER_01

I it's so Washington.

SPEAKER_06

It yeah, yeah. It's uh somehow it's got it does seem to be.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's very kooky wash.

SPEAKER_06

She's not Florida man, obviously.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, no. It's got more That would be a real sloth. Well, yeah. Yeah. And it w well, I don't even want to say that would be a whole different thing.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, a different thing altogether.

SPEAKER_01

But but this is uh uh I don't know. This is just so Washington. It has a little more wit than Florida man.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That would be a live alligator in a tree or some stupidity.

SPEAKER_06

Let's see. What what did happen to this guy? Because he was taken down in uh April of 2025.

SPEAKER_01

Right?

SPEAKER_06

In April. Yep, and then he got put back up. Oh, he did? Yep. He's in a slightly different location, but yeah, he's see, he's uh he's still there. If someone put him on their property, that's gotta be so disgusting.

SPEAKER_01

No, really, an eight-foot stuffed animal. I don't care what it looks like. This thing, it's been outside for a year.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, they've taken it down twice, actually.

SPEAKER_01

Washington is rain, is all about rain. This thing has to be a huge, heavy, moldy, gnarly, ugh.

SPEAKER_06

Right, and it would be that way if it was real or fake. Exactly. Yeah, so yeah. Gross. Yeah, because uh yeah, because sloths are pretty moldy. Well anyway, yeah, so it's still around, apparently.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I have another little animal story that I pulled for you, Michael.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, okay, good. Oh, I like it. Now I don't know where I like it the animal story, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You do? Yeah, you like an animal story? I do. Oh. Well, this is a story that it could have been in one, I'm not sure what. Animal? Animals, yes.

SPEAKER_05

All right.

SPEAKER_01

I like those stories. So on the lawn of a middle school during lunch hour, five escaped yaks wandered on to the lawn.

SPEAKER_06

That is awesome.

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Peacefully grazing, and of course, all the kids got out their phones and filmed TikToks.

Python in the Drive-Thru

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, of course. Oh my god. Teachers are running around panicking, trying to get all the kids inside. And I don't know very much about yaks. I know a lot about camels. Uh-huh. Um, but do yaks pose a threat?

SPEAKER_06

Uh, I mean, uh I suppose if they were cranky, they might. They do have some sharp horns, you know. So all right.

SPEAKER_01

So you wouldn't necessarily want your kids sitting outside at a hanging outside.

SPEAKER_06

There could be a bull in that bunch who who is like, you know, yeah, stay away from everybody and you know, get out of here. I'll run you down. This is in Ohio, by the way.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. Well, anyhow, the animal control showed up. Animal control's busy out there. Yeah, oh yeah. Um, and said, We weren't trained for this. Really? Really? You didn't have yak training?

SPEAKER_06

No, come on. Wow. I know. I mean I blame the taxpayers, you know. No one put this up for a referendum or anything, no one even thought about it. No, I blame them too. Yeah, I mean, be think, you know, be future-minded. Think ahead, people.

SPEAKER_01

Well, now, see, I want to know where they came from. Because in this story it says they were safely herded home.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, they were on a ranch in Ohio.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so I don't think of Ohio having yak ranches.

SPEAKER_06

No, I I wouldn't have thought that either, but uh but you know, I've been to upstate New York and gone by a Buffalo Ranch and uh little sm uh miniature pony farm, all kind of you know within a few miles of each other. So I didn't know they were there either.

Lottery Ticket Misprint Win

SPEAKER_01

Well, that may I I mean Buffaloes in upstate New York?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, lots of them.

SPEAKER_01

Well that no, I'm saying that makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know, were are were they in Buffalo by any chance?

SPEAKER_06

No, no, okay. Finger lakes area.

SPEAKER_01

Well, close enough. Yeah. Um, and miniature ponies are anywhere that people decide to be idiots and breed miniature ponies, I suppose. I'm assuming that those are bred. Uh yeah, I I mean I mean maybe one shows up here or there by accident. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

But I don't really know either.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, these days they're definitely bred. You know who speaking of Arnold Schwarzenegger, uh-huh, he

GTA 6 Meltdown at GameStop

SPEAKER_01

has miniature ponies in his house. He does. Yep. Oh, come. Because he likes them. He likes them. Yeah, because I can. He has three miniature ponies, he is a miniature pig, okay, and he has I can't remember what else, like eight dogs. I don't know. I mean, his when I say his house, you know, his house is um, yeah. It's Arnold's house. Um, and he was asked um about how the uh the the messes were dealt with. Ah, yes. And he said, I have people for that.

SPEAKER_06

I see, yes, of course.

SPEAKER_01

So, well, I guess that makes sense. Yeah. I guess someone's willing to do it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um So anyway, these yaks um are now the new school mascot. Oh, they are. The fighting yaks. The fighting yaks.

SPEAKER_06

Which That's really sad. It is? Yeah. Why? Well, you know, yaks are are maybe strong.

104-Year-Old’s Jail “Tour”

SPEAKER_06

Uh-huh. But they're like, you know, they're beasts of burden. That's a yak.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

So, okay. Woo-hoo! I'm so fierce I can carry this. Three suitcases. Well, I think. This doesn't sound scary.

SPEAKER_01

I think this is a middle school. I mean, it's not like I don't know. I I think it's I think it's okay. I don't find it sad somehow. Okay.

SPEAKER_06

All right.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, you said a bull could endanger.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It sure could. Yeah, and we've got the bulls.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Yeah, Chicago does.

SPEAKER_01

All right. I know. I know. Chicago's got that basketball from another planet. Starring Conan O'Brien. Okay, here's another nature walks in to a strip mall story.

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All right.

SPEAKER_01

So this is at an In N Out Burger in California. A piece of the.

SPEAKER_06

You've never been to one.

SPEAKER_01

What?

SPEAKER_06

I've never been to one.

SPEAKER_01

I haven't either. It didn't exist when I was in California. But um that tells you how old I am. It doesn't really tell you how old I am. Anyway, um, so in an outburger, there's uh

Skydiving Pact and Show Tunes

SPEAKER_01

in the in the drive-through, the the woman who's taken the orders looks out the window and up is coming a python. Oh. Up through the drive-thru lane. I see. So someone tried to move it with a broom. Genius! Yeah. Couldn't that totally get you killed or at least injured?

SPEAKER_06

Well, I don't know. There's a lot of you just no, not necessarily. No. Okay. I mean, I would You can poke a python with a stick pretty easily and get away with it.

SPEAKER_01

But I mean, will it go away?

SPEAKER_06

It might. Yeah, be uh unless it thinks, you know what, this guy looks like dinner.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's what I'm saying. You could get attacked for doing that. It just seems like a broom wouldn't be enough to say push a python away.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it it depends on, you know, obviously depends on the size of the snake. But yeah, just I mean, just putting a a broom handle like on the ground, you know, holding it upright on the ground. Uh-huh. A snake will have to go around it. So you are, you know, you can move it that way very easily. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yes, I do. Yeah. So you put it in its path, and it's gonna have to go around it somehow, but uh, you know, you don't without whacking it. But um yeah, but a python in the drive-thru. Now, if this was a very large snake, I certainly understand her her problem.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, guess who she called? The Popo. Animal control!

SPEAKER_06

Oh I'm telling you, this is a busy, busy

Nordstrom Rack “Butt Sniffer” Arrest

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, no, those animal control people, they're boy, they're really controlling those animals.

SPEAKER_01

And they need more training. They need yak training, python training, sloth training. They need all the training.

SPEAKER_06

Now in Florida, they are getting Python training, believe it or not, because a lot of pythons run, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah, and they have like Python season where people go out and you know win prizes for however many you can kill. Yeah. Yeah, because uh it turns out it's a perfect place for them to live.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and they're invasive and doing that. Oh, yeah, they're just they're messing things up, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Well, Florida's a great place for that, though.

SPEAKER_01

For messing things up, yeah. Yeah. Yep. I've I've been a witness and not a party to, but a witness to lots of messed up things in Florida, I must say. Uh yeah, so Animal Control came and some guy in a bronco leaned out his window and thought he was making the funniest joke of all time when he said, I said extra shake, not extra snake.

SPEAKER_06

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. So here's one of my favorite things of all time. You laughing at me?

SPEAKER_06

No, I'm I'm laughing sort of in sorrow with the extra snake guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's that's sad, dude.

SPEAKER_01

He's he is a sad dude. Yeah. And a Bronco at In and Out Burger. South Carolina. Okay, I've been there. Well, she went in to buy a lottery ticket at a gas station. And I don't know how this happens, and I'm hoping you can explain this to me. The clerk accidentally printed the wrong lottery ticket.

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Is is does that sound like, oh yeah, that makes sense?

SPEAKER_06

Oh yeah, she could have said, uh, I want to play mega millions, and the lady punched the Powerball ticket. You know what I'm saying? Or I want a Powerball and she put in a Mega Millions ticket.

SPEAKER_01

Well, any, I guess what she did is she looked down and said, That's not the one I asked for. But she kind of said, Oh well, I'll I'll keep it. Okay. I'll keep it, whatever.

SPEAKER_06

And um Yeah, I mean, that can happen, especially if they're busy. They just push punch the wrong button on the register because you know, they have a dedicated register for a button for these things. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, she wins something? $303,000.

SPEAKER_06

Right on. I'm so happy about it. Way to screw up. 7 Eleven or whoever that was. Yeah, way to do that. Wonderful.

SPEAKER_01

I'm thrilled.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Thrilled. So there's a thing that's been going on about GTA 6. Okay, yep. Would you like to tell people what that is?

SPEAKER_06

Well, it's it's Grand Theft Auto versus 6, which is a multiplayer online game where um you can go and uh live your life as a criminal or uh, you know, or not. You know. Some people role-play the game, some people play the game because there's an actual game in it that it walks sort of walks you through. Other people just go online and just play as their character and roleplay it and go out and rob uh convenience stores all day.

SPEAKER_01

Well, at a game stop, which is a video game store. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A customer walked in

Nova Festival Memorial Exhibit

SPEAKER_01

and said, I want Grand Theft Auto 6. Mm-hmm. And the clerk politely explained that it doesn't exist yet.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it's not it's not out yet. I mean, it's we yeah, it's we know it's coming.

SPEAKER_01

We've seen I've seen it's coming out in 2026.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I've seen uh previews, you know, and trailers and stuff, but that's that's all there is.

SPEAKER_01

Well, this guy went nuts. And he's yelling, not out yet. How come I'm seeing it all over TikTok?

SPEAKER_06

Oh god, you know, and just because you're stupid and you don't know what you're looking at. Right.

SPEAKER_01

And he's he's throwing stuff. Great, and yeah, and finally stormed out saying, I'm gonna find someone who actually sells real games.

SPEAKER_06

Good idea. That's a burn. Yeah. That's a burn. They got I know they gotta feel so bad over that one. Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Still stinging, still stinging after all the sorry. Yeah um, so here's a story of a 104-year-old woman in Oklahoma, because where else could this happen?

SPEAKER_06

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, she told the local police chief that she had always wanted to see what jail was like just once.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01

So they managed to arrange for 104th birthday a surprise field trip. She was quote, arrested, fingerprinted, given a tour, put in a cell for I don't know how long, maybe half an hour. And then she was celebrated with coffee and cake.

SPEAKER_06

Right on.

SPEAKER_01

Back down at the main office. And her review, yeah, not bad, but I wouldn't want to stay overnight. Ah, yeah. So that's really cute. Well, you know, at 104, right? Yeah, your bucket list is it's just chaos.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I know, yeah. You know, you've done everything. Well, almost, apparently, right? I mean, they haven't gone to jail yet.

SPEAKER_01

Well, exactly. That's like the only thing left. But you're 104. Yeah, yeah. And so it's like, well, skydiving like George Bush, um, too, Wendy, maybe I'll go and have coffee and cake in prison. That's that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I like that idea better.

SPEAKER_01

Can I just say, Michael, that if God sees fit to let us live to that age, no jail. I know right now it probably sounds like that could be funny and a good idea.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, all right, all right.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm gonna say right now, hard pass. Okay, rather uh do the plane thing? I would much rather rather you pushed me out of a plane. Okay, yeah. All right, yeah. And you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna grab onto your belt and pull your rubber.

SPEAKER_06

You're gonna drag me along with you.

SPEAKER_01

You know I am. Yep, you know I am. Um, how much time do we have?

SPEAKER_06

And we're gonna sing show tunes all the way down.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yes, we're gonna sing Chicago, Hits from Chicago. Yeah. John Baker will be waiting for us um at the uh landing pad, and we'll all be singing and all that jazz.

SPEAKER_06

Yep, there you go.

SPEAKER_01

I think it sounds perfect.

SPEAKER_06

It does sound pretty good, doesn't it? Yes, yeah. What kind of time do I have? Uh, you got the 17 minutes.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

Or thereabouts.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. I want to tell you guys about one of the most disgusting, hilarious things ever. Okay. This is in California. We're back in Cali.

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

On the 405. I don't actually know where in California this took.

Hostage Names, Context, Appeal

SPEAKER_01

But it does that does fit right now, yeah. Peace, peace, police arrested, rearrested a man on parole for take a wild guess, Michael.

SPEAKER_06

Uh, let's see, selling avocado toast while a permit. Butt sniffing.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. He was caught crouching behind a woman.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Now, here's the part that totally freaks me out is where this happened. Uh, church? Nordstrom Rack. Oh, there you go. Close enough. Where pretty much everything I own is from Nordstrom Rack. Oh, wow. Wow, oh wow. That's where, yeah. Well, you gotta be careful at not Nordstrom Rack. Apparently, yeah, the butt sniffers are there. He's a repeat offender. Oh man. And this time, the Nordstrom Rack butt sniffer. So what does he do? He goes, Oh, God. So you're in a dressing room at Nordstrom Rack, trying on a discounted, you know. One of six pairs of trousers. Well, it could be. Yeah. Yes. And trousers is the person's perfect thing for this. And you bend over, you know, in the process, and suddenly there's something in your in your crack. Yeah. Just and it's a man's nose. This is women, believe it or not, of course it is, who are the victim of this crime. Yeah. Well, this guy, his bail was set at uh $37. $100,000. Okay. So there was a judge that said, Oh no, you don't. Yeah, we don't do no butt sniffing in our Nordstrom rack. We're gonna put you in jail next to a 104-year-old woman.

SPEAKER_06

That's right. That's gonna be your punishment, dude. You're gonna have to listen to all her stories.

SPEAKER_01

Well, as I mentioned, I'm turning. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

She only knows two. Which ones are those? Well, one of them when she jumped from a plane.

SPEAKER_01

Right. I was gonna say that. And she sang show tune's on the way, too. Right, yeah. And John Baker was waiting for her.

SPEAKER_06

Exactly. Um and uh just put that on repeat, and there you go.

SPEAKER_01

And there you go. And what's the other one?

SPEAKER_06

Well, that's the whole thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, all right.

SPEAKER_06

All right. That's what happens when you when you have the dementia. You you know Oh, you just keep you forget the stories.

SPEAKER_01

You think it's two stories, but it's one. Yeah. All right. Well, as as I mentioned, it's October 7th, and it is the second year to the day since the massacre at the Nova Music Festival in Israel, where hundreds of people of all ages were killed, and many more taken hostage when Hamas attacked the festival grounds at sunrise. And this week in Boston is a traveling exhibit called the Nova Music Festival Exhibition. The moment time stood still. And this has been traveling around, it's been in New York, it's been in Berlin, it's been in a few other big cities, and it's in Boston. And you should go check this out. It's supposed to be extraordinary. Um, it recreates that day in immersive detail, but not for shock value, um, but as an as a memorial, and inside are some of the cars, um bullet-scarred tents, personal belongings from the site, cell phones, shoes, festival bracelets, and things left behind. Um, and there is some video, and there is there are some photographs, there are warnings all over the place about particular things that might be upsetting to someone.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So you can go to this um and have uh uh an experience that's informative but not traumatizing necessarily. Or you can, you know, go and do the whole thing. Um this is taking place at the Webb building in Boston, and I think it's on Dorchester Street. Can you look that up? Okay. It's the it's the Nova Festival exhibition in Boston. Um, I found it. Um it's 307 Dorchester Avenue in the old WF Webb building in South Boston. There you go. Um it's been in Miami and Buenos Aires, New York, Berlin, and now it's right here. So for those of you who are around here, um I I can't recommend strongly enough that you go check it out and see what you think. It's time to take a look at this, maybe from a different angle. Um there are a lot of people who this is a very contentious issue, but this particular exhibit is not about politics. It's about an event, a tragic event. And so it's a way of learning about it and paying homage uh to the hostages who are still there, also. And uh that's a horrible situation. Uh Matan Angrest um is there and he's appeared in Hamas videos, and families have received his family have received proof of life. Um there are these twin brothers, Gali Berman and Ziv Berman, who were taken from their kibbutz. And in recent reports, his family their families have said, or their family has said they were still alive. Um El Khanabot, Ram Braslovsky, Ariel Cunha, Omri Miran, Itai Ken, and there's an American still there. His name is Edan Alexander. There's an American alive in Gaza who is being held hostage now for two years. So I think it's important to remember the hostages, these people who are being held, and because these are people who were who are civilians. These are not prisoners of war. Right. These are people who were literally taken from their beds, their houses. You know, these these kibbutzim kibbutzes um are just homes. You know, they're not it's nothing grand or glorious. It couldn't be, they're completely agrarian communities. They're they're essentially farmers living very peaceful existences in these communal uh communal communities and they're civilians. These are not soldiers, and that is a terrible tragedy. I I did look up to find out who has made it through a long hostage situation. Who has been a who in history has been a hostage for years?

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And come out, and of course they all have intense PTSD. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But many people were still able to live um, I won't say normal, but I'll say productive lives and have gone on to work, have had um important, interesting work, have married, have had children. I mean, even think of, oh, what's his name, Michael? The Irish Jerry Adams.

SPEAKER_06

Uh-huh. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He was eight years he was a hostage and held in horrendous conditions in Ireland. But has come out and uh go has gone on to be a very important person in the on the world stage um about talking about freedom, talking about kidnapping.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know, Jerry was not a a a soldier, he was a civilian of a particular political persuasion. He was a politician. Right. Um, these people in Gaza are not politicians, certainly, but my point is that um prisoners of war, for instance, John McCain, he was, I think, seven years um in the Hanoi Hilton. Right. And I mean, look what he did with his life. It's just amazing. Yeah. Now, a soldier who's taken prisoner is different than a civilian in that there's a certain expectation of risk when you are a soldier, right? Right. You know that you might be taken a prisoner of war. And how about Terry Waite?

SPEAKER_06

Yes. Remember him? Yes. Iran hostage. How long was negotiated a release? And then he was kidnapped though, in Lebanon for four years.

SPEAKER_01

But was released ultimately. Yes. And is doing what? He's uh I think he's still around, right? I believe so.

SPEAKER_06

But he's a you know, he's an author and uh you know and a human a human rights advocate, basically, at this point.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the reason I'm bringing this up is because there's uh a feeling after two years that maybe uh you know, there are only say 20 left alive.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, there's f fatigue, I guess, is one of the words that people use in that so sad.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm thinking yeah, I'm thinking about us, like people who are concerned, who are looking at it, and and occasionally I think, oh god, you know, how can this possibly end up? And how it can possibly end up is that they could be released, be restored to relative physical health, and have lives. This doesn't have to mean the end of their lives. So I urge everyone to please raise your voices, send up some positive feelings, and remember that these are civilians who are being held and tortured, and they do not deserve for one second to be there. So for all of them, please put a light on.