Anne Levine Show
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Rocky Mountain Chai
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Start with a mislabeled bag and watch an hour unfold. We kick off with a global roll call and a story that turns “chai” into “Chai,” then tumble into a surprisingly tender argument about taste: why a younger friend devoured Homeland but bounced off The Americans for “looking old.” That sparks a bigger question we wrestle with throughout—do we judge shows by their era, or by the energy and craft that still punch through decades later?
From there we slide into the rituals that shape a day: the perfect “fridge cig” (Diet Coke to the uninitiated), the real cost of supersized sugar, and the protein-washed milkshakes that get sold as breakfast. It’s part cultural critique, part confession. We admit to reheated beef stroganoff for breakfast, a bagel craving during couture critiques, and the joy of guilty-pleasure game shows. Family Feud even gets a cameo, complete with an unforgettable silhouette that had us questioning sightlines at the movies.
The Golden Globes take center stage as we celebrate Nikki Glaser’s sharp, tasteful hosting and break down the red carpet with equal parts admiration and side-eye. Selena Gomez’s old-Hollywood elegance, Jennifer Garner’s hand-beaded masterwork, and a few sheer, jewel-splashed risks remind us that fashion is engineering as much as theater. We talk construction, fit, and the line between statement and stunt, because good tailoring is a story, too.
We close on heart. Isiah Whitlock Jr.’s passing hits hard, and we honor the way he could turn a single word into a legend while grounding every scene with warmth and wit. It reframes the hour: media isn’t just content—it’s memory. Whether it’s Arctic base stories, global listeners, or the difference a hyphen makes on a coffee bag, the thread is the same: what truly lasts is character and craft. If you felt seen, provoked, or just entertained, tap follow, share the show with a friend, and leave a quick review so more curious listeners can find us. What’s the one show you think still holds up today?
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Hello. Welcome to the Anne Lavine Show. It's Tuesday, January 13th, 2025. I am joined by Michael over there.
SPEAKER_03:Hello.
SPEAKER_02:And we are coming to you from W O M R 92.1 FM in Provincetown, Massachusetts.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. And WFMR91.3 FM Orleans. And we are streaming worldwide at W O M R dot O R G. And you know other ways also, I suppose. I think we are, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Not sure what the well, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Do you know uh our show has listened uh to in uh 42 countries? That's what I learned from uh in the past year.
SPEAKER_02:I did not know that. Yeah. Any what's the where the US is the biggest uh I mean after the US?
SPEAKER_03:Uh it's uh England, I believe. Okay, not Croatia. No, it's not Croatia this time.
SPEAKER_02:Mae Martin came out with the series Wayward, and for a long time she was number one in Croatia.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, isn't that funny? Yeah. Which I thought was a very bizarre fact. Kind of really out of place, if you think about it, right?
SPEAKER_02:Well, she has and and there were a few other countries in that region, and her opinion about that was that she thinks that a lot of people in certain countries were really interested in the fact, ooh, and I keep saying she and it's they. I apologize, May. Oh, yeah. That that it's because they're trans.
SPEAKER_03:Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And that they're curious, people are curious about you know what they look like, because she does appear not full frontal, but full rearal. She appears full bare butt um and front top. Yeah. Um, so yeah, there's a lot to see and learn and know.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, well, I mean, you know, I I I can see that as an explanation.
SPEAKER_02:So I was wondering about Croatia for us, but um I don't remember it ever being on the list.
SPEAKER_03:Right. We did have uh China on there and um some places in uh Russia at one time. Yeah. And I'm sure they're it I'm sure they're in there now, but they're not at the top. Uh Canada is always up, you know, somewhere up.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I hope that I hope they're still with us. Canada. Yeah. We love you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, oh man. I yeah, I hope they're not boycotting. Greenland, we love you. You bet. I I I have a special fondness for Greenland, having lived there for basically a year and a half. Yeah. At at like three different times, but you know.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I yeah, Greenland is I've never been there, and it's one of the places that I'd most like to go. Um everything I've heard about it is just magical.
SPEAKER_03:I have a uh nephew who's also been there, by the way. Who? Uh my brother my brother's son is in the military, and he went up to uh the former Thule Air Base, which is now called Pittipik.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, Thule is where you were stationed, right?
SPEAKER_03:That's one of the yeah, one of the two places I was at there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Anyhow.
SPEAKER_03:How did we get to very, very way up there, by the way. It's like uh a thousand miles from the North Pole or 1,100 miles from the North Pole or something like that.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think people realize how close that is to the North Pole. Yeah. That's that's uh in the polar That's from here to Chicago. Is it in the sh is it in the uh circle or the oval or the what?
SPEAKER_03:The Arctic Circle? Yeah. Oh, way up there. Yeah, well above the Arctic Circle, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, so just think about that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, it's way, way above the Arctic circle.
SPEAKER_02:Everyone think about that. Meanwhile, I have a few other things to think about. We have a friend who is a young woman, much younger than we.
SPEAKER_04:Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And here are a few things that she said to me that just killed me.
SPEAKER_03:It's a we've got a bit of a culture clash or something going on. I don't know what it is, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it's not, I don't think it's culture clash, but anyway, I think it might be IQ clash, but um that's not nice, but it's honest. Okay. Um so she came into me the other day, she had been in the kitchen getting something, and she said, Oh my gosh, when did you guys get so into chai? Uh-huh. And I said, What are you talking about? I said, I used to drink chai lattes, um, you know, decades ago when I lived in New York and there was a place right on the corner.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and she's also forgetting that we have given her a giant box of chai at one point.
SPEAKER_02:Right. I don't see that as germane, though. Okay, all right. It's it's okay. I mean, no, just that yeah, when did we get so into it?
SPEAKER_03:Well, we were drinking it all the time and we gave it to her because we we we had like four of those.
SPEAKER_02:Right, but her point is the place that our coffee usually comes in is in these specific bags. And so they were these bags, and she was like, Oh my gosh, you started drinking chai?
SPEAKER_03:Never seen chai in a big bag like that either, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. Right. And I said, I don't know what you're talking about. Um, I said, that's crazy. She said, Yeah, it's from the company your coffee always comes from. And I said, Well, that's really weird. I didn't even know they sold chai. I said, I'm gonna have to go online, and I'm already clackety clicketing on my keyboard, right?
SPEAKER_03:To make sure that you got didn't get some something weird.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, I'm I'm getting ready to tell them, hey, because we get it by subscription, yeah, and tell them you sent us the wrong thing and this has to be corrected.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Anyway, we ordered coffee.
SPEAKER_02:So she comes in here with a bag, and I order from a place called Iron Dome coffee. If you know, you know. And um, she she shows me the bag which says decaf deep roast mix. I stopped drinking caffeine a while ago, and then it says Am Israel Chai, and of course it's transliterated. So hi is spelled C-H-A-I. Right, yep. And so I said to her, sweetheart, this says hi, not chai, and she was like, Oh my gosh, so embarrassed, yeah, and ran back into the kitchen with it. But it just killed me because that's the least of the things it says on this bag.
SPEAKER_03:Right, that is true, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You know, it says in huge letters, iron dome coffee, yeah, decaf deep roast.
SPEAKER_03:Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:You know, and then at the bottom in little letters, uh Mishra Alchai. Anyway.
SPEAKER_03:That's very funny.
SPEAKER_02:Ugh. So she also told me she was obsessed by homeland. I had finally recommended a show to her that she was obsessed by. And she wanted to know another one.
SPEAKER_03:Which is, I mean, uh truly her normal obsessions are something like Emily in Paris or you know, well, or you know, below decks. Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_02:You know, I mean Emily in Paris is like the high end of her, you know, top hundred. Yeah. Anyhow, so she's I said, watch the Americans. The Americans is phenomenal.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it is a great show.
SPEAKER_02:So the next time I saw her a few days later, I said, How's it going with the Americans? She said, It's really not grabbing me. And I said, Why? She says, Well, it looks really old. Thank you for that, Michael. And I said, old? I said, first of all, you're looking at something that begins in the late 60s, early 70s.
SPEAKER_03:Right to give you some historical perspective on this, which is not necessarily a true story, but there were true stories similar to it.
SPEAKER_02:I said, so you're looking at it takes place in the 70s, let's say. And the cars are, and it's incredibly produced in that way, the sets, the costumes, the whole thing. And I said, so you're looking at older cars, older fashion, you know, right, no cell phones. Right, exactly. And I said, and that becomes part of what's amazing about the whole thing. Well, no, she's decided she's already done with it. It looks old. It's too old for her, yeah. Which I'm really furious about still, and I still want to slap her across the face. But anyway. Um, and I said, Well, there's a show that was made by the people who did Breaking Bad. She goes, Yeah, my in-laws are watching that right now.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So, oh boy.
SPEAKER_03:And then she said that's a gr it's it's one of the best shows that have been on ever. Uh yeah, in a in a long time. And then I said, Well We're talking about Pluribus, by the way, for those who aren't.
SPEAKER_02:Well, no, I said you should watch Breaking Bad. Yeah. And then Better Call Saul. Saul. And I said, It's kind of important to see those shows and how amazing they are and how incredible the writing is. She goes, Yeah, but Breaking Bad is five seasons or whatever. I don't know, some stupid thing. And I said, just watch it. You'll get obsessed, and you'll be done with it in a weekend.
SPEAKER_03:And it happens. I mean, we've seen it happen, we know it happens, it's happened to us. Right. Come on.
SPEAKER_02:And then, you know, you're so grateful that Better Call Sol is there. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're continuing in a way. And um, that in and of itself is an amazing story. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, then And introduces us to Rhea. Right, Rhea Seahorn, who's a phenomenal actress and the star of Pleurabus. So I said, then you can watch Pleuribus, which just came out. She goes, That's what I want. Yeah. And I what's it about? And she looks it up and it's the stupid one line. And she's like, That doesn't sound that good. I said, It doesn't sound that good to me either. It's stupid one line of a very complex and interesting show.
SPEAKER_03:You can't you can't describe Plerbus. No. No more than you can really like describe severance. Right. You have to see it. You have to know what is actually happening. You can't you can't really. And if you try to describe what is happening, it doesn't sound that way. You cannot distill it into something that seems right anything like what it is.
SPEAKER_02:So she said, Well, what's it like? So I said, Well, first of all, there's a sci-fi element to it. She's like, Ugh. And I said, No, no, no. I'm not talking like aliens and space stuff. Not sci-fi in that sense. I shouldn't have said sci-fi. Yeah. I should have said it's very futuristic. Um but the clothes are current. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I would I would have said there's some sort of uh a biological element to it that really can't be explained, but these people are semi-zombified. Okay, see no. You know, but see, that still doesn't work.
SPEAKER_02:You can't talk about zombs I know because you just say biological. I'm just wondering. Okay. Biological. It was adorable.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, anyhow, um, another thing that her generation has brought us, which delights me, is the new slang for Diet Coke. Uh-huh. Which is fridge seg. A fridge sig, yep. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Why didn't we think of that back in the day?
SPEAKER_03:I uh you know what? I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:When we were pulling them out.
SPEAKER_03:You know why?
SPEAKER_02:Why?
SPEAKER_03:Because we were actually smoking cigarettes.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. Yeah. So So it was I need a fridge sig with my sig. Right. It wasn't really a thing.
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_02:But it is now, boy.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Give me that fridge sig. How about that?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I think that's an appropriate name, too. You you need that, you know, you're going to get the hit of something. Yeah. Whether it's nicotine or caffeine or you need something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's for sure.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_02:Holy stuff.
SPEAKER_03:You gotta get over whatever that little hump is in front of you right there, and then you can coast for a little while until the next hump comes along.
SPEAKER_02:Well, also because diet coke for whatever reason. I mean, they could be good reasons, they could be bad reasons. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world that people drink.
SPEAKER_03:I would say regular coke is worse. Well, yeah, I mean, certainly with all the sugar, I don't know really about the Well, I do actually know about the not sugars, and they're really not that big of a deal, actually.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, the sugar is way worse than what's in the not sugar.
SPEAKER_03:Well, can I tell you what's in the not sugar? Yes, it's reverse sugar. That's exactly it. That's all it is. It's structurally exact a mirror image of sugar. Right. And that's it.
SPEAKER_02:So um, but what I'm saying is, and sugar is way worse for the average American. Yeah. And I mean, sugar, you know, no one drinks of, oh gosh, what did they used to sell? Like six-ounce bottles of jaw of coke.
SPEAKER_03:Right, that's true.
SPEAKER_02:No one drinks six ounces of anything.
SPEAKER_03:No. You know, it's like a sixteen ounce 32s now with everybody's got their huge Stanley's.
SPEAKER_02:Right, they're big gulps.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um carrying around. That's actually a huge problem, and I'm not gonna get into it or look it up, but apparently in some of those huge drinks, I don't the the caloric content is outrageous. It's like three or four thousand calories.
SPEAKER_03:It's yeah, it's you're just drinking.
SPEAKER_02:For one of those drinks, or even like those uh Starbucks has this new thing that they're selling, and they the commercial is level up at level up your Starbucks or something.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:They're putting protein in it now.
SPEAKER_03:Wow, okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yay, right? There you go. So your milkshake with whipped cream on top, that you think is coffee, that you have every morning, at least one of, now has protein in it.
SPEAKER_03:Yay.
SPEAKER_02:And that makes it okay.
SPEAKER_03:It's so much better that way, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. So um, anyway, that's our health moment. That's that's been health corner. So grab a fridge seg and prepare for more of the Anne Levine show.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Uh speaking of which, preparing for the Anne Levine show.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, right, right. I really didn't do that today. But uh, I'm here, though.
SPEAKER_02:You really didn't do what? Oh, prepare.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I did. I did a lot of preparation.
SPEAKER_03:You actually did, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you were preparing. I was uh I was fast asleep.
SPEAKER_02:You were with a belly full of beef strogano. Oh boy. So mama started cooking again, people.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and I'm digging it. Oh yeah. I mean, I had beef stroganoff for breakfast.
SPEAKER_02:I believe it's all gone.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's all gone.
SPEAKER_03:Oh gone. Uh where was I? Uh beef stroganoff.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I was just about to say something before that. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. On Family Feud, this week in Family Feud.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_02:We you're gonna have to put up a photo, right? I will. And the fact that I have a photo should tell you how insane this was.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:This was something that Michael and I were watching on Family Feud, and we that is our guilty pleasure. We don't watch below decks, we watch Family Feud.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's so dumb sometimes. It's hilarious. It is.
SPEAKER_02:It's always hilarious. And it's always so dumb. And uh there was a family on called the degree family. That's their name. Yeah. So and the names of the it was all women. The names of the women were like there was Mecca degree.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Asia.
SPEAKER_02:There was Medina degree. Um anyway.
SPEAKER_03:Asia and Jan. Right. And one more. I can't remember the can't remember the first one.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, she had actually a sort of day-to-day name, I'll call it. Okay, yeah, yeah. A kind of usual name, not an unusual name. Anyhow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Right. So we or Susan. Yeah, right. There you go. Susan Degree. And her family.
SPEAKER_02:And her family of massive assed people.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my God.
SPEAKER_02:Now on the end was Jan.
SPEAKER_03:Jan. She was the uh sister-in-law, by the way.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Now she had. I don't know, Michael. I'm gonna let you take this.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Uh I she was I know she was wearing heels, but with the hills, she was almost six feet tall. And she was more than six feet tall if you measure around her butt. She was like nine feet.
SPEAKER_02:You mean six feet circumference?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You you're gonna take, you're gonna need a 12-foot tape measure to go around there.
SPEAKER_02:Now, this is not a fat woman.
SPEAKER_03:I am not even kidding. I know. She's got yeah, she's got a little waist. She's she's she's you know, she's large-breasted, but she's got a little waist.
SPEAKER_02:But she's but her butt is so huge. Huge that it's shocking. And of course, what's she wearing, tight, I don't know what you call them. Something shiny. They're not trousers, no, they're like leme. Yeah. And somehow large enough to accommodate this thing. I mean, the first thing I said to Michael, we almost said it in unison, was what is that? Because this was to the point where, you know, we were talking about different situations where it would be difficult to be around this woman. And I said, I wouldn't want to be sitting behind her in a movie theater. Right. Because she's gonna be like a foot taller.
SPEAKER_03:That is true. That is true. When she's sitting on whatever that is, and uh and when she's sitting on a sofa, she's basically gonna be right on the edge of it because she's taken up all of the room.
SPEAKER_02:Right. And she I mean, and this woman, it's it's not just sticking straight out. This woman is wide in the hip.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's really.
SPEAKER_02:Now again, not fat, just wide in the hip.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know if you take May West's uh figure and multiply it by three and then the butt by another two times, you might have it.
SPEAKER_02:Well, see, I disagree because she's smaller than May West on top. Well, yeah. This woman doesn't have enormous breasts, nor is she in any way large on top. She is she probably wears like a medium t-shirt.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, but then bam! Bam!
SPEAKER_03:I did find myself wondering if she had somebody stashed in there feeding her answers.
SPEAKER_02:Well, well, that's a possibility.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so they were like, you know, they were like cheating the cheating the feud there.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I was trying to figure out if she had a BBM or if she had pads or or some kind of.
SPEAKER_03:Man, oh man.
SPEAKER_02:I have never seen y'all will see this when we when we put up we'll put up the we'll post I to I ended up taking pictures of the television because it was just shocking. Um and I haven't seen this was like Nicki Minaj kind of level or a Cardi B kind of level. Um and it may be implants, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:That's a boy, oh boy.
SPEAKER_02:You know, people have been sticking a pin in those butt implants. Well, it's been going both ways.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, but most people who get butt implants don't say, I want to be a foot taller when I sit down.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Um Well, and a lot of them say, I don't want this anymore. Cardi B's done that.
SPEAKER_02:Right. That's what I just said. They they stuck a pen in.
SPEAKER_03:Did Nikki do that? I don't I don't think she's a big thing.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think she's still quite as humongously as she used to be.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, this is even bigger than that, we're talking here.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, this is cr just crazy nuts. And I was thinking It's like a carport.
SPEAKER_03:You could park a car on.
SPEAKER_02:I well, no, a Winnebago. Okay, well, a vehicle.
SPEAKER_03:A large vehicle.
SPEAKER_02:Well, um she we're being terrible, but we're not.
SPEAKER_03:It's really this is something.
SPEAKER_02:And I have seen some extremely, I'm gonna say overendowed men and women. We just talked about a huge butt on a man last week.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh. That's right. That's right. Oh man.
SPEAKER_02:January is butt month.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, hey, okay.
SPEAKER_02:So I've seen plenty of well. That's very funny. I know, right? People.
SPEAKER_03:Um It's an unc it's an unconscious thing, but it's happening.
SPEAKER_02:No, but I mean, I wouldn't make fun of someone because they were big anywhere.
SPEAKER_03:Right, okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. But this is not this is not this was a lot, this isn't that this was a large woman.
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_02:This is that this woman had something.
SPEAKER_03:She's got uh yeah, on the comparison, she's got she's got the uh the the award.
SPEAKER_02:And she's doing everything she can to m pronounce it.
SPEAKER_03:Get it out there, that's right, yeah. First first time we saw them, it was very bright, sparkly, kind of like a blue fish scale kind of uh green-ish blue, and then the next thing was bright red.
SPEAKER_02:She well, and she had on like a mini dress.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So all there was was this, you know, I don't know, maybe that's where she puts her fridge seg.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah exactly. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:You know, when she's playing softball. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:She hands it to whoever's down in there giving her answers.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. Oh boy, you're really married, you've you're wed to the idea that she had somebody.
SPEAKER_03:I can see that. You know, someone's down there, they got their phone, they hear the question, and they start typing in, you know, Googling. Who would have been in there? Kevin Hart? Uh uh, you know, her husband, maybe.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:She's the sister-in-law.
SPEAKER_02:Her husband.
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_02:Oh. That's terrible. Well, speaking of Kevin Hart. Oh, yeah. Kevin Hart uh had a lot of jokes told about him on Sunday night at the Golden Globe.
SPEAKER_03:At the Globes, yep.
SPEAKER_02:And Nikki Glazer was the host once again. Yep. She was amazed at it.
SPEAKER_03:She was very yeah, she's very good at it.
SPEAKER_02:But this year she was really, her jokes were, I'm gonna, believe it or not, say tasteful. There wasn't anything, oh, you know, yeah. And and how could she say that? There was none of that.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, she did say a lot of sideways things, but they were not no one could have taken them mean.
SPEAKER_02:They weren't out of line with jokes that have been told in the past by other hosts. Right.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they weren't Ricky Gervais' jokes.
SPEAKER_02:Right, or or anyone. I mean, a lot of people have have um gone kind of uh blue. Yeah. Um and mean even on the Golden Globes. Nikki didn't do any of that.
SPEAKER_03:No, she was actually really cool.
SPEAKER_02:Clever stuff. She looked amazing.
SPEAKER_03:She did look really good, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:She had on the most gorgeous gown. It was this pink. Oh, I don't even know how to talk about it.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:This pink, strapless, I mean, she had a few different gowns.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:But her red carpet gown was this smoky pink. Um, no idea who made it because that was never said, but it was stunning. Michael said she's had a lot of work done.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I'll have to check out.
SPEAKER_03:You know, she had some nose work done that I didn't yeah, I didn't care for.
SPEAKER_02:Well, she might have done something with her nose, but I really checked that out. And I'm not certain that she did. If she did, I want the number of her surgeon. Okay. Because her nose is perfect. Well, and it's got character. Um, she didn't like pull a Jennifer Gray.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, that's true. Jennifer Gray doesn't look like herself at all anymore, so it's elegant and tasteful. And it's been twenty-something years, or you know, and she still doesn't look like herself.
SPEAKER_02:She looks phenomenal. And uh as I said, no one said the name of that damn gown, but she had it accessorized perfectly, unlike many of the people on the red carpet. She didn't have any jewelry around her neck, just some very beautiful drop pearl earrings, tasteful, not too showy. She looked amazing. She was one of the best looking people on the red carpet, and that doesn't usually happen with the host.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:So, should I do my uh Golden Globes rundown?
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, we kind of need to do that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:All right.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Do you have uh do you have a winner?
SPEAKER_02:Well, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Um, I'm not as kind as Nikki Glazer, so I'm gonna start with Alicia Silverstone.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Alicia Silverstone was wearing a red velvet dress with spaghetti straps that was tailored down to the millimeter. Amazing. All right. However, her undergarments were the the stylist should have been fired before the show started. Her undergarments on top were not doing anything. She may have even been brawless. Now, Alicia Silverstone does not have large breasts.
SPEAKER_03:No, no. But oh okay. What were you gonna say? Nothing. I'm just uh going through photos myself here and just saw uh someone.
SPEAKER_02:Do you see what oh, but what she does have was not being held up, which made it almost more of a crime. Um I'm remembering some other people in the past that needed more support because they had a lot to support.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:Alicia just needed something to be there, and she didn't have it, which was a shame. Um Selena Gomez looked extraordinary. She was wearing Chanel, um, but a very unusual Chanel dress. I'm gonna say that it's not a vintage. I'm gonna say it's current Chanel couture. And it was off the shoulder, but then all around the top was like a huge rough of white feathers. Is that feathers? Yeah, and and then then a black, then it dropped this black gown below. And she had, I don't know how to describe it. It was almost a Marcel wave, but it was really a bob that was almost shoulder length. Are you looking at a picture? Of Selena. Yeah. And I'm trying to describe the hair. Oh, it's uh well, that's a good one.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Um well, it was Holly old Hollywood game. Yeah, it was that that's exactly what it is. It's a it's curved under, it's parted on the side, it's all kind of I said it almost had a Marcel wave vibe to it, but it was longer than that.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And it looked so very old Hollywood look altogether, the whole thing.
SPEAKER_02:She looked beautiful. She didn't look there have been a few times I've seen her recently where she looks like she's starving and is not in particularly flattering clothing, but this this was an incredibly brilliant dress that was gorgeous and also it wasn't too revealing. It covered up places that might not have been her best assets. Um she looked stunning, just stunning. Um Jennifer Garner looked amazing. Now this woman.
SPEAKER_03:You know, a lot of people are think are considering uh Alicia Silverstone looked great in her red dress.
SPEAKER_02:What do you think?
SPEAKER_03:Um I mean, her she didn't really do anything much to her hair. Yep. So I think a lot of people may have, you know, kind of whined about that, I suppose. I don't know. I think she looks nice. Well I like the dress itself.
SPEAKER_02:I do too. You had to see her being interviewed and moving around.
SPEAKER_03:You know what? I'm I'm sure that is true. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And so when she bent forward a little bit, look.
SPEAKER_03:Was that yeah, okay, so that's a very structured top, and she was just kind of like uh flopping around in it. Yeah, okay, I get what you're saying.
SPEAKER_02:But there's not around there's not a lot to flop. So it was an awkward bodice for her. Now, would I like to look like Alicia Silverstone? Hell yeah. So, you know, but I'm here to be picky. They got rid of Joan. I mean, they got rid of her before she passed away. Joan Rivers of Blessed Memory. So I'm here to fill in.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So I will mention uh one that I the one that I saw that I had the big pause over. Uh that would be Jay Jay Law. Uh oh, J Law. Jennifer Lawrence? Yes. What okay, tell me about that. No, you tell me. Well, she wore basically nothing except for a little bit of embroidery. Well, I thought that was Jennifer Lopez. No, that Jennifer Lawrence is in here where she's got nothing but flowers and a few leaves on this absolutely sheer fabric. That is so weird.
SPEAKER_02:You should look up Jennifer Lopez.
SPEAKER_03:I I saw that too.
SPEAKER_02:Because she's wearing essentially the same thing. Uh she's wearing nothing but embroidery.
SPEAKER_03:Right, but you know what? Uh uh J Lo's is not quite as sheer as Jennifer Lawrence's is.
SPEAKER_02:Well, J Law, Jennifer Lawrence, I thought looked beautiful. She's got long hair. She has bangs.
SPEAKER_03:She looks fantastic, but the dress is there's not a lot of dress there.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Well, there was a woman, and I cannot think of her name. It's Tiana something.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw her.
SPEAKER_02:Did you see that situation?
SPEAKER_03:I believe I did, yes.
SPEAKER_02:Tiana Taylor.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god. Is wearing, I don't even know what. Um she's got like a series of wide silk ribbons kind of wrapped around her.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And she's Wearing her favorite part of this dress. If you it's not even a dress, I'm not sure what it is. It's a series of silk ribbons. She's wearing a freaking diamond thong. Yeah. With a huge diamond bow on it. Now, it was the raunchiest. I I don't think I've ever seen a raunchier red carpet look.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh. Oh, they're calling that a whale tail.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I'm calling it a diamond thong, which is what it looked like. I mean, it sits at the top of the crack. That's where the bow is.
SPEAKER_03:It's a tramp stamp built into your uh thong.
SPEAKER_02:Well, now, since you're using the term tramp stamp, she also featured a series of tattoos down the middle of her back.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You know, sort of pointing at the diamond thong. Yeah. And she did make a point of letting us know that it was all diamonds. Ooh. That thing on her bottom. Yes, well. Anyway, I was thoroughly Oh, uh from Tiffany, by the way.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, Tiffany made that thing. Not surprised.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Tiffany stopped being classy about 20 years ago. And um, yeah, that's all I have to say about Tiffany.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Um, I it doesn't surprise me that they would do that. I know of a lot of jewelers that would not do that. She ended up winning in her category. And this woman came up and did the thing that I hate more than anything. In addition to political stump speeches. Right. She got up and thanked, guess who? Number one. Oh, God. Jesus. Jesus. Yep. Jesus, her Lord and Savior. Yep. And she knows that he got her there and slapped the diamond thong right on her tucks.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah. Well, that's a pure that's a sign of uh, you know, him being around, I guess.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Also golden whale tail.
SPEAKER_02:She was talking about all the different things she's done in her life. Um, trying to get to where she got to say. To to where she is now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And so she named all these different things and she said, I was even a chef at Escoye.
SPEAKER_03:Uh no.
SPEAKER_02:And I said, you know, if you're gonna go learn how to cook at Escoffier.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Escoffier, you might want to learn how to cook.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So you said Escoye, and I'm like, no, that's not it.
SPEAKER_02:Sorry, folks. She won for the new Paul Thomas Anderson film. She was in that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I think that was up for like everything, right?
SPEAKER_02:Well, the people that are in that film, and I can't think of what it's called right now. Um I'm blanking on it. Maybe you can check it out. Um, it's the something versus the something. Oh, shoot. Um, anyhow. Uh Sean Penn.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:George Clooney, I think. Leonardo DiCaprio.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Are you seeing the movie that I'm talking about?
SPEAKER_03:No, not at all.
SPEAKER_02:The Paul Thomas Anderson new movie.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I hold on.
SPEAKER_02:I wasn't even um anyway, we'll we'll get there. Anyway, this is this is the film for which she won.
SPEAKER_03:One battle after another.
SPEAKER_02:One battle after another. Yeah. That's um, which I'm going to need to see very soon.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I've not even heard of it, but uh Leo's wandering around through half of it in an uh uh in a bathrobe I want. Actually, it's a plaid bathrobe. That's very cool.
SPEAKER_02:I've never heard you say that you want a bathrobe.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I mean, look at it. It's like my favorite shirt. It's like the same thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I I do want to mention that I have gifted you over the years with a few nice bathrobes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I don't think I've ever seen you sporting one.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but um, but I do that they're not plaid.
SPEAKER_02:Or but you do wear them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I'll be happy to get you a new one.
SPEAKER_03:It's pretty cool. This one. Uh I don't know if it's a jacket. It looks like a bathrobe.
SPEAKER_02:Ariana Grande. What what's a jacket?
SPEAKER_03:I said I don't know if it's a jacket or coat, you know. No, it's a bathrobe. All right. I want to mention, by the way, uh Jennifer Garner's um gown took 1,300 hours to hand make.
SPEAKER_02:I started to talk about that earlier. She looked amazing.
SPEAKER_03:330,000 crystal beads.
SPEAKER_02:Looked amazing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, she really did. First time she's been to the globes since 2013, by the way. And she looks like she's 13.
SPEAKER_02:She's gonna be able to do that. That's what just killed me. She looks amazing. She looks amazing, and she looks so young. Ugh, I've got to go back to my Botox person. They didn't do it right this week.
SPEAKER_03:She's got a uh cooking thing on YouTube, cooking channel.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I'm not there for that.
SPEAKER_03:So it's one of her new things.
SPEAKER_02:Ariana Grande, a woman to whom Michael always wants to give an entire dozen of Dunkin' Donuts.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, please.
SPEAKER_02:Um, is fortunately, thank God, back to her real hair color.
SPEAKER_04:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:So she's back to back in black. She looks fantastic.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I mean, she always looks good. She's such I think she's such a pretty girl. Not in that blonde hair. Oh, I don't know. I mean, act you know, actresses have different hair colors. I I don't even really pay attention to that.
SPEAKER_02:I hated the blonde hair. She's a dark-skinned woman. I mean when I say dark-skinned, she's, you know, olive, whatever you want to call it.
SPEAKER_03:Which makes the blonde even more blonde.
SPEAKER_02:Dark eyes, dark eyelashes, and dark hair. And she looks perfect. She's stunning. Anyway, um, also tiny. She had an off-the-shoulder gown and looked really beautiful. I was thrilled not to see her wearing pink and or green and doing that whole wicked nonsense.
SPEAKER_03:Black was a big thing uh last night. A lot of people wore black. Lots. And then there was uh gray as well.
SPEAKER_02:Well, there was a lot of silver.
SPEAKER_03:Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And she looked like a grown-up. You know what? She looked I know what you're saying. She just looked very, very classic and beautiful. And so there I am looking at these people. Um, oh, Priyanka Chopra, uh-huh, who now calls herself Priyanka Chopra Jonas, which I feel is unfortunate. She looks stunning.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna guess that he he's pressured her into doing that because if anybody really wants to know, she's so much more famous than he is. Well, so much more.
SPEAKER_02:They were on the red carpet together doing an interview, and she looked amazing. Um, and she had on gorgeous diamond jewelry. All the women were wearing various sizes of what I can only call tennis necklaces, just these, you know, chokers of various size diamonds. Some of them were huge, yeah, um, and not very tasteful. Some of them were medium, uh, okay, and some of them were just what I would call normal. Normal if you can do four carats per diamond.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:Right. That was normal.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:All right. So anyway, she looked amazing. Her dress was stunning. They didn't say who did it, but next to her, she had this gray kind of sad looking thing in kind of a washed-out gray something, and it was her husband.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:And he looked like baggage. He looked terrible. And especially next to this glowing, beautiful, gorgeous woman.
SPEAKER_03:So he's doing his job, really.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Whatever that is.
SPEAKER_03:Just to make it make her look good. I mean, she's a star, right?
SPEAKER_02:I don't think he thought that.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02:But anyway. And then I saw her come out to present next to a woman that I I don't know her name. She had bangs, long hair, a black and silver gown, and she managed to make Priyanka Chopra look fat. That's how skinny this woman was.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely tiny. And I was sitting there watching all of these felt women just looking amazing. And I, of course, oh, you know what? I made a mistake.
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_02:I made a huge mistake. What is it? Okay. The undergarment situation I was talking about earlier. Yeah. It wasn't Alicia Silverstone. Oh, okay. Who looked perfect in her red dress.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, all right. That's I was wondering, because she I thought she looked really nice. Okay, who was it? Abby Elliott. Oh no. Oh, I better I gotta look that up.
SPEAKER_02:Look it up. She had on an almost identical dress. But she was the one who needed support. She did not win best supporting actress or best supporting actress.
SPEAKER_03:I see, yeah. She's uh she's flinging those babies around. Do you see what I'm talking about? Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah. So yeah, so so so Jonas, Nick Jonas, he looked like some kind of loser. He really did. And and he looked uncomfortable and unhappy. And anyhow, I'm watching all of these completely svelt women women um in their gorgeous finery, and all I can think about is that I want a damn bagel. Okay. That's all I can think about. All right. And I was sitting here obsessing, obsessing about a bagel. Yeah. So I I had to do it.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:I did what my I I listened to my inner Michael.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, good.
SPEAKER_02:Who would say, you're a grown ass woman.
SPEAKER_03:I would say exactly that.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Yeah. If you want a bagel, go have a bagel. Exactly. Well, I did. Well, good for you. Well, now I'm so filled with guilt and shame and regret that I will be fasting until the Oscars. I see. But but then I thought about it more and I was thinking, you know what? I think it's gonna be the 2027 Oscars. Oh, oh my that was that had to have been a mighty big bagel. It well well, no, here's what it was. Because of where we live, um there you can't always get a decent bagel. True. It also depends on your Instacart delivery person, which we'll have to discuss what happened to us with ours this weekend. Um but it's a Panara bagel.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it might as well be a Panera cupcake. The stuff is 99% sugar.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Truly.
SPEAKER_03:Probably not even able to classify it as bread in the UK. Right. Just like a Subway sandwich. They can't call the bread bread there because it has too much sugar. Yep. So yeah, I understand. But uh, yeah, it's pretty good though, right? I mean, it's not as bagely as it should have been, but it's pretty good.
SPEAKER_02:I wanted a bagel. It was the closest thing we had. So there you go. Walter, I mean, Walton Goggins.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, did you love the shirt?
SPEAKER_02:He was wearing a black suit with a gold leme shirt.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And a ribbon tie.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, everything the suit was fine, the tie was fine, the shirt, come on, dude.
SPEAKER_02:I loved it.
SPEAKER_03:Really?
SPEAKER_02:Well, you know, Walton Goggins is, you know, kooky. He's off center.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that is true, yes.
SPEAKER_02:And I thought it was perfect for him.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. It did land him on one of the worst dress lists that I've seen. Oh, that's stupid.
SPEAKER_02:I can't best and worst, he would have been one of the ones on my best. Okay. One of the ones on my worst would have been shockingly Timote Chalomet.
SPEAKER_03:Really?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Did you think it was too simple?
SPEAKER_02:It was just it was boring, but what it was the whole look. And my problem is with him. He's doing this thing. He's got facial hair that looks like he's 12.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You know, he just doesn't really have facial hair.
SPEAKER_03:It's like his first mustache where he's never shaved it because, you know, oh, I got a mustache.
SPEAKER_02:Well, now he's rocking his first goatee.
SPEAKER_03:Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Which you can't really see. It's not thick enough. It's just you kind of say, oh, is there something? Someone should wipe off his chin. Exactly. Yeah. That's what it looks like. He's got some lint on on him, damn it. I gotcha, yeah. Yeah. Um, so oh my gosh. Are you kidding?
SPEAKER_03:No, I'm not I'm not kidding.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I didn't even get started.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, maybe some of you are grateful for that. I don't know. Anyway. Um, we lost an actor this week that it broke my heart. Isaiah Whitlock Jr. passed away. Who is from VEP, from Spike Lee films, and of course, the fan favorite of the wire. And he was famo famous as playing the senator who always said an expletive in a particular way. Yeah. And particularly. Yes. And I just adored him. Just adored him. And he was great in everything he did. He sure was. He was 71 years old, which is too damn young.
SPEAKER_03:Agreed.
SPEAKER_02:So I also want to mention, because I have someone in LA, I'm not even gonna say which neighborhood, who's been hawking me a chainic about putting a light on for Diane Keaton. Now I did that when she passed away. So I'm repeating for Diane Keaton and for Isaiah Whitlock, please put a light on.
SPEAKER_01:But I swear by this song and by all that I have done wrong, I will make it all up.
