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A nor’easter pounds the Cape, the house runs cold, and we warm up by arguing about the most electric late-night guests ever and the sneaky power of real-life detail on screen. From Robin Williams’ cyclone energy to Martin Short’s masterclass in character and timing, we unpack what makes a guest unmissable: unpredictability, generosity, and a host forced into delightful chaos. We trade favorite moments—Goldblum’s sparkling weird, Letterman as the perfect interviewee, Steven Wright’s deadpan precision—and consider how the right pairing turns a segment into TV folklore. We also completely skipped Kevin Nealon and WHY?
Then we turn a minor gripe into a bigger thesis: why toothbrushing scenes in movies feel so wrong. The glamorized swish-and-peck is all gloss, no life, and it breaks the spell of intimacy. Authenticity lives in the details—mess, timing, awkwardness—and when films honor that, relationships read truer than any montage. With that lens, we head into awards season and a new fixation: Sentimental Value, a Norwegian standout with a breathtaking lead performance from Renata Reinsve. We chart the contenders across acting, directing, editing, and casting, talk momentum versus merit, and admit that pronunciation shouldn’t be a barrier to recognition, even if it becomes a punchline on ceremony night.
We close with a farewell to Valentino—sun-tanned icon, inventor of a red so specific it became its own legend. The memories are vivid: fur-lined coats, immaculate tailoring, a presence that turned sidewalks into runways. It’s a reminder that style, like cinema, is storytelling we wear, and that certain artists echo long after the lights dim. Join us for weather grit, late-night greatness, awards intrigue, and a little fashion history. If you enjoyed the ride, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review—then tell us your all-time talk-show GOAT and your bold awards pick.
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Monsieur Mademoiselle, it is with deepest pride and greatest pleasure that we welcome you tonight. And now we invite you to relax, thus pull up a chair, as the dining room proudly presents your dinner. Be our guest. Be our guest. Put our service to the test. Tie your napkin round your neck, Sherry, and we provide it. Hello!
SPEAKER_02:Welcome to the Anne Levine Show. It's Tuesday, January 27th, 2026 in the snowy Northeast. I am joined, of course, by Michael over there.
SPEAKER_03:Hello.
SPEAKER_02:And we're coming to you from W O M R 92.1 FM in Provincetown, Massachusetts.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. And 91.3 FM W F M R Orleans. And we're streaming worldwide at W O M R dot O R G. Thanks for tuning in.
SPEAKER_02:And Michael picked this Broadway number, Disney number.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. As our intro.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_02:Any particular reason, or just be our guest?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Well, I wanted to I wanted to talk about people who are guests.
SPEAKER_02:Oh.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You did. People who are guests. Have you got that lined up?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I mean, I could talk about it. We we can talk about it. It's a discussion.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I see. It's not a lecture.
SPEAKER_03:No. So I guess I got it lined up. We could just start if you want.
SPEAKER_02:Well, what sort of guests?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I was I was probably.
SPEAKER_02:Well, wait a s wait a second.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:We should probably address the storm.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, yeah. Exactly. That's normally what we do. We chit-chat for a bit and then we get into the show, but okay. It's been stormy.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:I think we probably got about a foot.
SPEAKER_02:A foot of snow.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Here and uh where we are on the Cape Cod.
SPEAKER_02:Here and where we are. Um here on Cape Cod. And there could be places greater, lesser, who the heck knows.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm sure there is probably quite a varying.
SPEAKER_02:And I don't know I I really have no idea where it's been better or worse. Um I mean I know that what was it from Texas to Maine or something?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Was this big swoop?
SPEAKER_03:All kinds of all kinds of people got hit, you know, really pretty bad. Mississippi didn't get a lot of snow, but one entire city had to shut down because of ice, because it took all the power out. Right. Throughout the whole place. Yeah, it was just it's pretty bad. Tennessee got got it pretty good. Um all through, you know, Florida didn't get a lot.
SPEAKER_02:No, in fact, my annoying friend Blanche, I contacted her during the snow because I saw this thing on Instagram called a firebob. And it's where because everyone, of course, on Instagram, on TikTok, on social media is trying to put something online that's gonna get a million followers.
SPEAKER_04:Right, yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02:Well, um, it was this woman somewhere, I think in maybe in South America, who was cutting people's hair by lighting it on fire. Oh, nice. I'm not kidding. Nice. So uh she called it the firebob.
SPEAKER_03:Firebob. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I urge everyone to look it up. I saw it on Instagram, I'm sure it's on TikTok and everywhere.
SPEAKER_03:That sounds uh that sounds suspicious.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it it's it's not.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, it actually light people's hair on fire.
SPEAKER_02:That sounds like you don't just light it on fire and walk away and then come back and there's a bob.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, you don't? Okay. No.
SPEAKER_02:So uh No, so they like grab a hunt a hunk of hair and hold on to it and then lighter, and then when it gets to the length they want, you know, that it's just stupid.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Stupid. But anyway, I have this friend in Florida, she's a hairstylist.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, yeah. And very good at it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So I sent her um this video clip and said, could you please come up here and give me one of these? Firebob, yeah? Because it's 20 below zero. And she had the nerve to write back, oh yeah, that looks ha hot. But I went to Acadia today because yeah, because it's usually cooler there this time of year. But it was but it was 83. Oh, and it was such a bummer. And it was like, why do I write to you? Why are we friends?
SPEAKER_03:I'm not sure that's exactly why, because she can tell you what's going on. Yeah. God, I love her.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. So anyhow.
SPEAKER_03:You need to come visit Blanche.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Um, she she never listens to the show. No, I know, but uh, yeah. Someone else might tell her they hurt her.
SPEAKER_02:Someone else might tell her. Um, yeah, so anyhow, uh that stuff that was going on, it was so cold.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And it'll get cold again.
SPEAKER_03:But so really stupid this morning. Try to let the dogs out, right? You know, and then our youngest dog, it's it is too deep for her. Yeah. Her feet sink all the way down.
SPEAKER_02:And the poor thing. It's like up to her chest.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And she was like, but I have to get over there.
SPEAKER_03:She's like high centered on the snow. I know. It's really hard for her. So I gotta I gotta do a lot of digging so she can even get around the yard.
SPEAKER_02:Do a little pushing around out there. People don't dig your snow, push it to the side.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's a major um PSA coming to you from everywhere, including the Anne Levine show. Yeah, don't just don't be lifting snow.
SPEAKER_03:No, especially now because you know the snow we got earlier this weekend was very powdery snow. What I call sugar snow. It's just like powdered sugar. Uh but now the temperature's gone up, and all of that has really gotten much more dense now. It's all very wet snow now, and trying to shovel that around, you're gonna you can hurt yourself. So, yeah, you gotta be careful. People do hurt themselves doing that, and they do just don't do it, people. They don't have to you don't have to go anywhere. Well, what you mean it's horrible out there.
SPEAKER_02:What you should do is what our friend Nell did, um, because she was prepared.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:She got a snowblower. Right. And so if you have a good snowblower, you don't have to do anything except stand there, and it just kind of goes through. It it throws the snow out of the way while it makes uh makes a path. Right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, you do have to manhandle it a little bit. I was actually told not to uh uh m mess with a snowblower because of my surgery.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I would have.
SPEAKER_03:Because of you know, moving it back and forth and and the way you have to align it around. They're pretty heavy, and he's like it he was worried that it would, you know, knock my thumb out of kilter.
SPEAKER_02:So the joys of hand surgery.
SPEAKER_03:He's like, no shoveling, no snow blowing, just find you know, get a neighbor kid or something. Yeah, no, that's what the doctor told me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. We've got like who's our youngest neighbor kid, 70.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but that's in the summer. No this time of year, there's nobody around here.
SPEAKER_02:That's true. Yeah. That's true. Well, anyway, um, yeah, I I was there were several times during the storm um when I was thinking, this is not the right place. You know, I was wishing your dad was here to just pack everything up and move us.
SPEAKER_03:Right, move us to f Central Florida.
SPEAKER_02:Well, not Central Florida. No. Right. Um, there would have to be some sort of compromise on that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, I mean, with this storm, we couldn't go anywhere on the coast at all. So Yeah. I mean Except Florida.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean, like, Chicago didn't get any of this, did they?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh, they did? They got they got weather too. They didn't get this like the same amount, but yeah, they got they got some snow.
SPEAKER_02:But they always get some snow.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Also true.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, uh, was it part of Fern, the worst name ever for a storm?
SPEAKER_03:Uh, let's see. Winter storm warning, snow totals. Uh, they got over six inches.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And oh, they might get uh yeah, yeah, that's really not uh not that bad. It's a typical winter day in Chicago, right?
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:No, I think that the Midwest, the North Midwest, and the Northwest Ohio, since you know, Ohio got hammered pretty good in places. Yeah, but I mean like Seattle, California, Washington, Seattle.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:No. I mean the temperatures weren't great, but no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03:This came from South.
SPEAKER_02:Came from South.
SPEAKER_03:Not from the West.
SPEAKER_02:I have a friend in Iowa who said, um, I'm planning to come to New York on Monday, this past Monday. She told me this a week ago. She said, I think this whole thing is just, you know, weather drama. Uh-huh. I don't think anything's really coming. And for some reason, I'm usually one of those.
SPEAKER_03:Well, it often is weather drama. I mean, I don't blame her for taking that sort of tack immediately. But yeah, it became too consistent, you know, well, it wasn't over the past week.
SPEAKER_02:It was the it's partly for me, a lot for me. It was the cold. And so the cold itself was enough for me.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because we have no insulation and we have a messed up heating situation. Yeah, that's kind of a mess and message. You know, it was like high forties, low 50s in our sunroom. Um, and like low sixties at best, very low in the bedroom.
SPEAKER_03:So well, it's a it's a 300-year-old house, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, whatever. It's just not a good house to be in when it's that cold. So before the snow came, it was that cold already. Like I was wrapping up with hats and yeah, actually, the snow has warmed things up. So thank you. So, anyhow, um, not a not a great winter we're having here.
SPEAKER_03:Uh last year's more of a winter than we've had in a long time. Yeah, really. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Last year we had no snow. No, and I can't remember when we've had any like significant snow. I mean, we have to go back several years.
SPEAKER_02:We had some in 2022, but we didn't have it, wasn't this cold at all. So nothing stuck around.
SPEAKER_03:Right, that's the thing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and it didn't get that cold inside. Right. Um, so for me, the worst part of this has been the temperatures. It's been really uncomfortable. Anyway, anyone want to buy a 300-year-old house?
SPEAKER_03:And uh, well, we got two dogs in the bed. We may probably need another one. Do a three-dog night. Oh, because that's what that was about. That's where that you know came from. From it being so cold tonight, you gotta have three dogs in the bed.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I think that we should get to the be our guest segment of the show. Okay. Maybe you can describe what it was that you wanted to Well, sure.
SPEAKER_03:I wanted to I wanted to talk with you and our audience and see who they thought are the best TV talk show guests. Like, you know, historically speaking, and it could, you know, I mean, that could even mean, you know, today if there's someone who's who kills it on the talk shows, whoever that is, but there are certain people I think that have stood out over the years that when they're when you've got them on your show, you know you have something that's really gonna be a lot of fun. Mm-hmm. So Robin Williams. Every time he was on your show, that was gonna be something. And you were lucky to have him there because you weren't gonna have an experience like that ever again.
SPEAKER_07:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03:It's never it was never gonna be the same with him. So I put him on that list of best talk show guests because I don't really think it mattered on what talk show he was even on. You know, some of these people are are you here? Yes, of course I'm here. Okay. Uh some of these people um, you know, are are like more or less famous for their interactions on particular talk shows.
SPEAKER_07:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03:But like Robin, he's uh I don't know, he's any show he was on, he just kills it. Yeah, you know, yeah, obviously.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you know who's an incredible guest.
SPEAKER_03:Who is who is an incredible guest?
SPEAKER_02:David Letterman.
SPEAKER_03:David Letterman is an incredible guest. I agree with you.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. He is so funny being interviewed.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I think most of those guys, those interviewers, most of them have a really good handle on what makes a good interviewee.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh yeah, obviously. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So they kind of know what to do.
SPEAKER_03:Um have you seen uh do you remember the the time that uh David Lennerman interviewed Johnny Carson?
SPEAKER_02:I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_03:When he had Carson on his show, which was an impossible guess. Yeah. Because Johnny doesn't do interviews, and he certainly doesn't do talk shows, right? Was this prior to the uh retirement? Uh pr prior to David's No, prior to Johnny's retirement. No, I think it was after.
SPEAKER_02:Uh huh.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. But he came in with his own desk and lined it up next to Dave and sat there on it. How do you not remember that? I don't know. It's very funny. Yeah. This is one of my favorite favorite uh TV things. That was a blur. That was adorable. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I've, you know, of course, there's the famous Joaquin Phoenix on Letterman. Now that was not an example of a good guess.
SPEAKER_03:No, that was an example of David being brilliant.
SPEAKER_02:Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Uh wish you could have been here tonight.
SPEAKER_02:I'm sorry you couldn't be here. I'm sorry you couldn't be here. Yeah. It was amazing. Um and Conan, of course.
SPEAKER_03:Conan, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Is he a great guest and a great interviewer?
SPEAKER_03:He's got a couple of people who have been, you know, that go on his show, his shows that have been really, I mean, just hilarious. Uh Paul Rudd.
SPEAKER_07:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03:They had a running gag the entire time Conan did shows. Um, up until the very last episode. Um, there was uh uh who oh Timothy Oliphant on Conan? Yeah. Oh man, he's so fun. He's funny anywhere. That is a funny man.
SPEAKER_02:You know who's one of my favorite guests anywhere?
SPEAKER_03:Jeff Goldblum. Oh yeah, yeah. See, he's another one of those guys. He can he any talk show he's on, he's probably gonna be just awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Even and it's gonna be awkward with no matter who. It's really the that's the fun part. There's some sort of weird awkwardness no matter what who it is, and it makes it just Jeff Goldblum.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Well, he's he's a dream. Uh he would be a great uh host, I believe.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I agree.
SPEAKER_02:Wouldn't he be great, like as a as a host of a big award show?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I would think so if you could get him to do it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh Steven Wright on Craig Ferguson.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:What some of the funniest television I've ever seen. He was he was, I mean, and uh Kristen Bell on Ferguson as well. Those two were hilarious with each other.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they had a lot of chemistry.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was always that it was always so much fun. I don't know, I just um I I th I think, in my opinion, there's there's really one who is the number one best uh talk show guest. And uh we haven't spoken of them yet. Okay, and that I think. Is Martin Short. Oh, yeah. I think Martin Short is the uh you can't get any better than having him on his show.
SPEAKER_02:Not to mention Jiminy Glick.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Yeah, with his own show. Oh man. I die watching videos of that. I do too. And it was it this past year or something like that that uh that uh uh Kimmel was gone and people uh were hosting the show for him, and he came on and did a week as uh Jiminy Glick.
SPEAKER_01:No, how do I not know that? I would have been glued to that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I've seen I've seen the um it might not have been a week, it might have been a few days, but yeah, he did he did several shows, I believe.
SPEAKER_02:Because Fortune Themester did three or four nights. Yeah. Um, but I didn't know about Martin Short.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was very, very funny.
SPEAKER_02:Well, now I'm gonna have to find that. Now I'm gonna have to go finding that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, now you gotta find that one. But I think he's probably the best talk show guest in the history of talk shows. I don't know. Probably, and I think underneath him is probably Robin Williams. I would put him there because you I don't know. This the this like two two massive legends, and they're they were both perfect every time they were up there.
SPEAKER_02:Well, Robin Williams was a phenom. Um he was someone that on a on a talk show you didn't need a host.
SPEAKER_03:No, that that is true. You you just introduce him and off you go.
SPEAKER_02:You know, yeah, wind him up, and he was the host, he was the guest, he was the audience.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:He played every part.
SPEAKER_03:So uh Jennifer Lawrence, I think, is another uh awesome guest on a talk show because she's so weirdly unfiltered.
SPEAKER_02:And she does the craziest stuff. Well, you don't expect her to be that.
SPEAKER_03:No, and she is she is so funny.
SPEAKER_02:My favorite. I would put her in like the top ten. She won an Oscar, I think it was an Oscar or a golden. And she fell on the stairs on her way up to receive the award. And she was hilarious about it. Yep, it was not like, oh, how embarrassing and it was like perfect.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh, she's uh she's that person. She's very, very funny. And yeah, when she's on a talk show, she she just lets go usually.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Woo!
SPEAKER_03:She lets go. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I there's something I I want to talk about that has been something that bothers me my whole life. And I only when I started researching this a little bit, found out that I am late to the game. As far as saying it out loud. Um, this has been like a big conversation online forever, but it's toothbrushing scenes in the movies and on television, but mainly in the movies. I cannot stand them.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:And there it's kind of obligatory. You know, when you have a film um, particularly about um intimate relations, intimate relationships where you're seeing people in a home, you know, going about their day, there's always a toothbrushing scene thrown in. Always.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:And I hate them. Alrighty. And here's why. First of all, I don't know about the rest of y'all, but when I brush my teeth, it's not pretty. You know, there's water and foam and toothpaste going around and down into the sink. It's not like I just put a dry toothbrush in my mouth and very lightly just kind of go back and forth. You know? And I'm all pretty for, and then grabbing a tumbler, a beautiful clean tumbler, with just a little bit of water in it, taking a small sip, swish, swish, swish, spit, and you're done. That's not how toothbrushing goes.
SPEAKER_03:No, not usually.
SPEAKER_02:Would you agree? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I would agree with you.
SPEAKER_02:Pretty. It's not this pretty scene. The other thing that I hate is when you have side-by-side sinks in a vanity, right, and you have a couple, and each one is brushing their teeth at the same time at the at the other sink.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And then they kiss.
SPEAKER_03:Ah, yes.
SPEAKER_02:That grosses me out. Okay. What do you do are you here?
SPEAKER_03:You do you hear me speaking?
SPEAKER_02:A little bit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What do you think, though, about what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Um I I was agreeing with you mostly, but uh until we got to the kissing part.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03:Because I don't understand what the problem is there. Well, I mean, if you've got You mean they've still got toothpaste all over their face?
SPEAKER_02:They're not even they're not done. Okay. Brushing their teeth.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I don't know. You know, I guess they figure they're already cleaning, you know.
SPEAKER_02:You might as well Well, maybe they figure that, but is is that what you would figure? Like if we were brushing our teeth.
SPEAKER_03:I don't do that. So I wouldn't figure it at all.
SPEAKER_02:Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:So I would never call that I don't I don't think it's all that weird, though.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's completely repellent.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:And it's not something I've ever done. It's not something I've ever wanted to do, particularly.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_02:I don't find it sexy. Like, it's always shown as this, like, ooh, here's a sexy scene. They're brushing their teeth, but they're gonna just, you know, break while they're still mid whatever it is.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I don't know what that is. I don't like brushing my teeth in front of other people. I don't like it at all. So you wouldn't want to be filmed. I am a neurodivergent individual, right? You know, there are things that that you just there you do by yourself. That's one of them.
SPEAKER_02:Well, uh and for non-neurodivergent people, there are things that you just do by yourself.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Um I mean you I can't speak for them. I can. And it's you you do that by yourself. It's just it's not a group activity. And when it's a solo activity, um, in the movies or on TV, which is generally what you see, it is never done realistically. It's always done in this really dainty. It's essentially what it looks like is that they're not using any toothpaste.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And it's like always a handheld little toothbrush from IKEA, and um a couple brushes here, a couple brushes there, the beautiful cut crystal tumbler, one sip, and scene.
SPEAKER_03:All done, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So I I just it frustrates me because it's never realistic.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Well, they also don't eat or go to the bathroom in the movies for the most part. I would say eating It's not it's uh uh it's it's fairly rare, you know.
SPEAKER_02:It is?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Well, I certainly can think of lots of films where there's eating.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but there are okay, yeah. What no tell me. But there are lots more films, is what I'm saying. It's not something that that that people uh a lot of people necessarily like watching for one thing. It's not it it's not yeah. I mean it happens. I'm not saying it doesn't, but I'm saying that more often than not you will you will watch something and and you'll go through the entire movie and no one will have eaten anything or gone to the bathroom.
SPEAKER_02:Well, for the most part, um I mean eating in films, they're certainly drinking in films, eating in films. Um I don't know, there's something about the teeth brushing, it's too intimate, and it's shown the way that sex is shown on a soap opera, on a daytime, completely unrealistic. Okay, yeah, completely yeah, just it's like sanitized for her pleasure.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so same thing with toothbrushing. Well, that brings me to a film that I watched this week. Sentimental value. Now it is of course up for an Oscar best film. And when I mention this, people say best international film because it is Norwegian, but no, it's up for best film, period, full stop. Uh and it is extraordinary, in my opinion. In particular, Renata Reinsve, that's how it's pronounced, it's Norwegian. Um, who is the star of it, is absolutely breathtaking.
SPEAKER_03:She is she really has quite a look about her, doesn't she? It's not it's not like an exotic look.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know, it's she's really well, it's not even how she looks, which is beautiful.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's her acting. Oh my god. I could not believe what I was seeing. It was phenomenal. And it's a very, it's long, it's slow, but in um, it's measured, I should say. Um, it's in Norwegian, so you got subtitles. So I now that know that wipes out a whole bunch of Americans right there. But watch it. It is just hypnotic. And now I've looked up, it's it's up for best film, it's up for best director, uh, which is Joaquim Trier. Uh, it's up for Best Actress, Best Supporting. It's got two best supporting actress nominees, one of whom is El Fanning, uh, and the other is Inga Lileas. Um, you're supposed to say her middle name too, which is Ibs Dutter. But I think we're taking Norway too far here.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, yeah. When we get into that. I agree. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I'm glad I'm not.
SPEAKER_03:So way too Norwegian forward.
SPEAKER_02:I'm Norway forward. Yeah. And I think that if you're going to have to have to uh uh be a presenter and pronounce these names, I mean I'm ready for another Adelda Zine.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, absolutely. Me too. That was so much fun.
SPEAKER_02:Inga Ibs Dotter Lila.
SPEAKER_03:There you go.
SPEAKER_02:You know, and even Renata Rhinjve, the way that the way it's spelled, um, it's like R-H-E-N-A-T-E. Okay. And Rhine J is R I E N S V. I don't know.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's um it's gonna be much, much fun watching anyone pronouncing this stuff.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so I want to go through some of these uh oh, and Stellan Skarsgard, who won the Globe. I don't remember who won the Golden Globe for Best Actress at all. Um I wasn't very present at the uh, you know.
SPEAKER_03:At the Globes? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But let's go through actors in a leading role. Jesse Buckley won for uh Oh she did Hamnet. Okay. Well see that is the big that's the spoiler there for Renata uh is Hamnet.
SPEAKER_03:And I think Sinners is gonna be the spoiler for everybody.
SPEAKER_02:I don't. I know that it's got the most nominations, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But I also know that historically the most nominations have gotten the film Best Picture.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Well, I hope you're wrong because Sentimental Value and Hamnet are and what's the one? Um oh shoot.
SPEAKER_03:One battle after another?
SPEAKER_02:Well, there's that. That's the Marty Supreme.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Marty Supreme, yep. Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Now Timothy Chalamet, when I looked at it, was the hands on the hands on? Was the hands down favorite to win best actor. Um, then you got Leonardo DiCaprio one battle after another. He was amazing. He was really amazing. Yes, he was. You've also got in Best Supporting Sean Penn for one battle after a mother.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, who was also incredible. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:The cast of that film, they're also giving out an Oscar for casting this year, which I think is about time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think they should have been doing that for a long time. It makes all the difference.
SPEAKER_02:So, actor in a leading role, you've got Timothy Chalamet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ethan Hawke in Blue Moon, Michael B. Jordan Sinners, and Wagna Mura in The Secret Agent. I have not heard anything about The Secret Agent. Nor have I. I'll have to look that up. Uh actor in a supporting role. Benicio del Toro, one battle after another, and I'm laughing because he was absolutely hilarious in this film. And this film, one battle after another, is of course Paul Thomas Anderson.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's and it's a quote black comedy, you know. So yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it's it's brilliant. Oh my gosh, this film is brilliant. And of course, it does have the best actress in a supporting role of whom I made such fun at the Golden Globes. Tiana Taylor. Oh, right, right. Because she was wearing a diamond thong. Yeah. Well, she was so fantastic in one battle after another. It would not surprise me. Um, and she is up again and I against, and I said a couple of these. L Fanning for sentimental value, Inga Lileas for sentimental value, In Madigan Weapons, Wound Me Mosaku Sinners. Um, I think Tiana Taylor's gonna win.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, she was incredible in uh one thing after another, which is all I can ever call it, one battle after another. Yeah. Um, so Benicio del Toro was hilarious beyond belief. Um, it was so Paul Thomas Anderson, the character that he was playing, um uh just amazing. It was amazingly well written, and I was thinking, who wrote this? Well, guess who? Paul Thomas Anderson. We have Jacob Alordi in Frankenstein. Now, I did not see Frankenstein, uh-huh. I didn't really hear about Frankenstein.
SPEAKER_03:I saw a clip or two from this this one. And how did it look? Um, you know, different than what I expected, but you know, I have a weird, you know, I've still got the old 1930s Frankenstein in my head. So it's it's hard. When I saw Robert De Niro as uh as you know, the monster, that was crazy. So um, you know, so it was you know, whatever. Right um it was different.
SPEAKER_02:So well uh Delroy Lindo Cinners, and then Sean Penn one battle after another. I haven't seen Sean Penn do such a great job acting, and he's a great actor in a long time. Yeah, he was fantastic, and the whole idea of it was so brilliantly realized. Um I I just I it blew my mind. Blew my mind. What did you think of it? Was your mind blown? What did you think of it?
SPEAKER_03:Uh which one were we talking about again Sean Penn. Oh, you know what? I I have always uh thought he was an incredible actor.
SPEAKER_07:Mm-hmm. Me too.
SPEAKER_03:Never not thought that. So and he certainly didn't disappoint here. And he actually um he looked great.
SPEAKER_02:He looked I mean for Sean Penn, he looked great. This was written for him. It was Was like, take all of Sean Penn's, I would say biggest qualities, darkest qualities. Uh-huh. You know, besides being a brilliant comedian, which we last saw in Fast Times. Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:We haven't seen a lot of the funny from him since then. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Uh and wow. It's just something else.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's really something else. Uh, I think that one battle after another is going to get unfortunately left in the wake of one of uh Norway? Of Norway, of sentimental value and sinners, and of course, Hamnet. Right. Um, we've got actress Jesse Buckley for Hamnet. Roseburn, if I had legs, I'd kick you. Yeah. Uh Kate Hudson's Song Sung Blue. I'm loving the title. I thought you would. Yeah. Songsung Blue. So the film about people pretending to be Neil Diamonds. Yep. Um, and of course, Huge Ackman is her, but he is not nominated. Um, and then Renata Reinesva and Emma Stone for Begonia. Now, I didn't see Begonia. It's it's Jesse Plemens and Emma Stone. Okay, that's the I like those guys. I love them. But it's like a science fiction, it's not my style, let me put it that way. Okay. And I may have to just force myself to sit down and watch it. When are these here awards?
SPEAKER_03:Uh 13th or 15th of March, something like that.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, so I don't have a very long time to watch everything. Elle Fanning in Sentimental Value. 15th, yeah. Yeah. I have mixed feelings about. Um she plays a very interesting character. Uh and of course, not Norwegian. So there is a little, there is part of this film that's in English, and it's the stuff with Al Fanning. Uh, but it you're not rooting for her. Um, not that she's a bad cop in this film, but you're not rooting for her. Um, you're rooting for the other person. So it might be that. It might be that I was prejudiced. Um, best film, animated, Arco, Elio, K-pop demon hunters.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's gonna be a thing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Little Amelie, or the character of Rain. Right. Zoottopia 2. So I think. Oh, fortune's in that one, too, but I think we're between K-pop Demon Hunters and Zootopia 2. We might very well be, yeah, it seems like it's uh casting, Hamnet, Marty Supreme, One Battle After Another, The Secret Agent, and Sinners. And I think that's pretty much the wrap up there for Who Might Win, except Sentimental Value isn't in there. Because no one can pronounce the names.
SPEAKER_04:Right, okay.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, let's see. Directing. And I find this fascinating. Guillermo? He's in there, right? Guillermo? Yeah, del Toro. For what? Isn't he in there for one of these movies? No.
SPEAKER_03:I'm pretty sure he is, isn't he?
SPEAKER_02:No. Are you mixing him up with Benicio del Toro? Uh no. I had something. Some one of these movies. Well, directing is Chloe Zhao for Hamnet.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Now she has, of course, become like director supreme in this country. She's won twice already, I think. She won for Frankenstein. Oh, well, he's not nominated. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Um, I knew he was in there somewhere.
SPEAKER_02:And uh Christoph Waltz is in that too. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, Marty Supreme, Josh Safty. Very possible. One battle after another, Paul Thomas Anderson. Sentimental Value, Joaquim Trier. I think that's who's going to win. Sinners, Ryan Kugler. I'm going to be watching Sinners probably tomorrow. I've I just have to see it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, and see what's happening. Now, this is fascinating to me. Best documentary feature. The Alabama solution, and then Come See Me in the Good Light. Now, if you don't know, Come See Me in the Good Light is a documentary done by Ryan White, Jessica Hargrave, Tignotaro. She should be at the top of this list, and Steph Willen. Tignotaro was a very close friend of Andrea. Oh gosh, why am I blanking on her last name? I need help today.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I don't have any help for you with this one. I don't know who you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02:Um well anyway, Tignitaro did this uh documentary about the poet laureate of Colorado, um, who is very much a spoken word poet. Um I have to look it up. Sorry, kids. Andrea Gibson. Um so it's about Andrea Gibson. And it's about her and her partner, Megan Fally Gibson. Um and unfortunately, in July, this was Andrea Gibson died of ovarian cancer. And so Tig started making this documentary before she died. Now, Tig was actually in the room with a bunch of other of Andrea's nearest and dearest when she did die. So to say that this was close to Tig's heart is beyond. But they did an amazing film that I watched twice, and I can't recommend it highly enough. It's on Apple TV. Come see me in the good light, that will become abundantly clear to you that title. Um, and it's fantastic. And the fact that it got nominated is extraordinary. Uh queer people making a documentary about queer people for one thing. Uh just everything about it, about someone dying, um, and about the that process of dying of cancer, it's just incredible, the whole thing. Film editing, F1, Stephen Mirione, Marty Supreme, Ronald Bronstein and Josh Safety, one battle after another, Andy Jurgensen, sentimental value, absolutely should win. What? Sorry?
SPEAKER_03:Let's continue.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, Olivier Bougie Kute. Okay. So once again, I guess it's big. Because we're in Norway again. Sinners, Michael P. Shaver. And of course, on and on it goes. And uh I shan't I shan't bug anyone anymore about it. Let's see. Oh, you know what happened this week that was shocking and painful to me, anyway. Um Valentino died. Right. Now, Valentino was, I think, 92 years old. Good for him. Yeah. So it was hardly um, was not tragic, was not unexpected, but it was still shocking, and he's sort of the last of a particular generation of the great European designers, the Italians and the French, mainly. Um, and his name was, of course, Valentino Garvani. And his funeral was on Friday. His partner, Giancarlo Giamatti, still alive, um, and in incredible health, just walked right into the church in Milan. And of course, you know, the funeral was a cast of thousands. You had Anna Wintor, you had Anne Hathaway, um, Kate Blanchette. You know, it was like royalty and Hollywood royalty, and everyone in the world you can imagine was at this funeral. Um, I wish that there was some kind of thing where you could name a Valentino dress that you remember. Mine would be as soon as I heard he died, I immediately thought of the dress that the dress that Julia Roberts wore when she won the Oscar. It was vintage Valentino.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:It was black with a white halter, strap, and white. It was mainly black with some white uh accents. And I don't know why, but that dress has never left me. Okay, yeah. It's it's always in you were always in my mind. Anna Fendi was there, Liz Hurley, um, all the people you'd expect. Right. And uh there are certainly more intense things going on in the world, certainly more, oh, I guess press-worthy things going on in the world. But for me, this was particularly poignant. Um I saw Valentino a few times in my life. The last time I saw him was on St. Bart's. And he was there with his partner on their yacht, but he came over to, you know, mingle with the Hoy Paloi, such as myself, briefly one day, um, as well as Armani was there. Um, and every anyone you could think of, Bonna was there, Oprah Winfrey was there. Um you could tell sort of who's who by who gets off their boats. I mean, a lot of people just show up at St. Bart on their yachts, um, just to be in the harbor, which I have always found absolutely whack. But every now and then you have some famous people like Valentino who actually get off their boats and stroll around a little bit. That's kind of why you go to St. Bart's or any little Caribbean island, um, in my opinion. Anyway, he was looking, of course, then the way I'm sure he looked in his coffin, uh, which was overly tanned. The guy could not be untanned. And like some other people that we know about currently, uh, and he had the most intense turquoise eyes, which were set off um by the stand. And he was, of course, always impeccably dressed in unPC things. He always had on some extraordinary camel hair coat or alpaca coat or mohair coat with like uh mink mink collars and and mink linings, he was so over the top, it was just ridiculous. And he invented a color red, Valentino red, and so if you went out and made a dress or garment in this particular shade of red, Valentino could come after you and sue you. Was ridiculous. Do you know of any such things?
SPEAKER_03:Uh I mean, I think you would sue the people who manufactured the fabric.
SPEAKER_02:What about the color thing? I mean, you you had a whole thing about this, about the blackest black.
SPEAKER_03:Right, yeah. Well, I mean, it's still a thing.
SPEAKER_02:But isn't that a thing where you can get sued?
SPEAKER_03:If you give it to a particular person. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:See, I think the m ultimate black is restricted to the uh the entire world except one guy. He's not allowed to have it.
SPEAKER_02:Well see.
SPEAKER_03:And when you buy it, you make that agreement. So who's the one guy that's not allowed to have it? I don't have it right here in front of me this time. Well, why? Because I wasn't prepared for the question.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no, no. Why isn't this guy allowed to have it?
SPEAKER_03:Uh, he's a competitor or something. I don't I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:All right. Well, for Valentino and for the great artists who have left us but with great legacies behind them. Please put a light on.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, I told myself I wouldn't fall for it. But then it's got it so much.
