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Quad God, Curling, And Doctor Storytime

Anne Levine and Michael Hill-Levine

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The week felt like a sports movie that refused to stick to the script. An allegedly slushy Olympic rink turned figure skating into survival mode, where clean edges mattered more than big jumps and a single stumble reshaped the podium. We break down how ice quality can sabotage world-class technique, why Germany’s pairs team won gold by staying upright, and how Kazakhstan’s Mikhail Sheiderov captured gold through control, not spectacle. Along the way, we talk music choices on the ice—Bolero, Paint It Black, and a show-stealing Diva Dance—and why composure after a fall can change a career as much as a quad.

From the rink we glide into curling, that underdog of winter sports that thrives on angles, sweep rates, and quiet nerves. Strategy and patience become the stars, a needed counterweight to the high-velocity wipeouts. Then the spotlight swings to the Oscars, where Marty Supreme grabs us by the collar with a flawed lead you can’t help but root for. We dig into a fearless transformation at the center, Kevin O’Leary’s unexpectedly sharp and menacing turn, and a 90s-leaning soundtrack draped over a midcentury world that crackles with urgency. We also flag Secret Agent, a Brazilian political thriller with Cannes acclaim and historic awards momentum, as essential viewing.

The most intimate moment lands in a doctor’s office: an essential tremor, a neurologist with no filter, and a crash course in what separates tremor from Parkinson’s when the stakes feel personal. It’s messy, funny, and useful—proof that clarity can live inside chaos. We close with winter-weary small joys, a nod to the friends who keep us going, and a soft tribute to a beloved actor gone too soon.

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Opening Banter And Station IDs

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I told the witch doctor I was in love with you. And then the witch doctor who told me what to do, he said.

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Hello. Welcome to the Anne Levine Show. It's Tuesday, February 17th, 2026. And of course, this ship is steered by none other than Michael over there.

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Hello.

SPEAKER_00

And he sounds especially commanding today.

SPEAKER_03

Don't I though? Yeah.

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Yeah. You do. Um, we all have our faith in you for this next hour. Uh, so yeah, hi everybody.

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Yeah, hello.

SPEAKER_00

We have all kinds of things to discuss today.

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Yeah, but first we want to remind you you're listening to 92.1 W O M R Provincetown, Massachusetts, and 91.3 FM. WFMR Orleans, and we are streaming worldwide at W O M R dot O-R-G. It's real people here.

SPEAKER_00

It is real people here. It is, it's all real. Um, and I feel it, I feel the streaming. It's streaming right through me right now.

SPEAKER_03

Is it? Yeah.

Setting The Stage: Olympic Week

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Okay. I'm streaming. Yeah, oh yeah. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Um I don't even know where to start. Okay. It's been it's been quite a week. I think I'll start with the Olympics, though.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, yeah. That's a that's a big deal. That's been happening. It's about to wrap up here, right? Pretty soon, isn't it?

Figure Skating Falls And Bad Ice

SPEAKER_00

Well, there's one more it's this week. Yeah. So I guess Sunday is the closing ceremony, I'm guessing. Right. But Saturday or Sunday, probably.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but there's a whole big thing going on with ice skating. And what's been going on is that everyone has been flaming out. Everyone has been, all of the competitors have been crashing and burning, falling down. I was watching the pair short program over the weekend. Every single one, except for the Germans.

SPEAKER_03

Right, except for only one pair. Didn't have a fall. Well, or uh a messed up jump or something.

SPEAKER_00

Well, a jump that got popped out. Yeah, some um some didn't actually hit the ice, but some big, some really big problem.

SPEAKER_03

Right, that lost the many points where they would have normally gotten it, including uh our hopeful gold medalist.

SPEAKER_00

Ilya Malinan. Yep, who everyone assumed was gonna take the gold.

SPEAKER_03

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And who is referred to as the Quad God by everyone, including himself.

SPEAKER_03

Right, yeah, he probably came up with that himself anyway.

SPEAKER_00

He walks around in this um tank top that says Quad God with a crown on it, and he's like this tall, blonde, blue-eyed, sort of uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, one of the children of the corn. That's what I've always called him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But also this extraordinary, like he's really good at the skating thing, I'll tell you that. He's great at skating. I mean, he's got a program that has seven quads in it. He's the only guy or gal for that matter that's ever done that.

SPEAKER_03

He does a a four and a half.

SPEAKER_00

Right, and he's also doing a four and a half now. I remember last time we were talking about Olympic skating. I was saying that it's crazy because at some point someone's gonna do a five.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, one of these days, but uh, and and they're getting there. He's already doing four and a half.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and how is this just gonna keep happening? I mean, are they gonna end up being like tops that that spin up to the ceiling or something?

Upsets: Germany And Kazakhstan Rise

SPEAKER_03

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's what's in the future, could be what they're going for, yeah. Anyhow, there's a big, big controversy.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_00

Because of all this falling. And it's been happening in speed skating.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

All these people wiping out.

SPEAKER_03

So what are they and no one's saying any any of this is deliberate, right?

SPEAKER_00

This is no, it turns out that the quality of the ice is terrible.

SPEAKER_03

I see. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And everyone has been complaining about it.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and it they're saying it's too soft and like slushy almost.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's a problem.

SPEAKER_00

And so that's why everyone is wiping out.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you can't get your skates to bite on something that doesn't that exactly. It has to have no give or very little, you know. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

And the other thing is that the surface of the podium is destroying the blades of everyone's skates.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, no kidding.

SPEAKER_00

Because they they go up on the podium on their skates.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, not with skate guards, not with blade guards.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

So it's been a total mess. Yeah. Okay, I get that. The Olympics, whoever does, you know, this stuff have made an apology.

SPEAKER_03

I see, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Right. So it's like an official an official thing. Can you imagine being in an Olympics where things are so screwed up that the committee itself has to apologize for uh Well, and that your your performance, your athletic endeavor is ruined.

SPEAKER_03

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Your your Olympics is ruined.

SPEAKER_03

Your your four years of solid training and effort to get there exactly gone. Because they couldn't do ice, right?

SPEAKER_00

They they couldn't do ice.

SPEAKER_03

Um and it's horrible now that I've everybody seems to be having a problem with ice. What is it?

SPEAKER_00

So what this has led to is some pretty bizarre results in the standings.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like, um, as I said, in the pairs short program, Germany ended up winning. Right. Now, Germany never Germany was never considered um as a team that was gonna do well in figure skating. I mean, they're competing, but no, no one said, okay, they're gonna be on the podium.

Music Choices On The Ice

SPEAKER_03

Oh, uh well, yeah, but that's not even I mean, you can see how that may be able to happen. You know? It gets a little cold around there, too. They've got a lot of frozen lakes and rivers and mountains and stuff. I'm not saying But Kazakhstan, on the other hand, you don't expect them to win a gold medal.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that was a crazy thing that happened. Yeah. Uh and well, in the case of Germany, I'm gonna finish um what I was gonna say about that. Um they were the only the only pair that didn't fall down.

SPEAKER_03

They didn't have some kind of stumble, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um I mean it was hor and really crazy things were happening. Like this Japanese team that was expected to win, you know, they do these throw jumps.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, this, I mean, I hate to laugh, but this woman got thrown and she ended up on the ice. Oh no, yeah, because I missed that part. Oh, yeah, these this was one program after the other. Yeah. It was absolutely nuts. Um, so in the men's, what was it, short program or long program? Um, anyway, um the one that Ilya was absolutely expected to win. Right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um ended up being so Malinin fell twice.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Plus, he popped out of several jumps. Um, so where he was supposed to do quads, he did singles and doubles. Uh anyway.

SPEAKER_03

And Kazakhstan won the gold medal.

SPEAKER_00

Because, and look just like the German.

SPEAKER_03

He didn't fall down.

SPEAKER_00

This guy, Mikhail Scheiderov, yeah. Did not fall down. No. Good for him, too. Yeah, well, this guy was wearing some kind of crazy blue flame situation costume.

Curling: Strategy And Skill

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Now he is the second guy in uh Kazakhstan's uh uh Winter Olympic history to win a gold medal since they've been competing as an independent country. Uh-huh. Because he won in uh 1994 when uh cross-country skier got a gold medal. But this guy, he's it. He's number two in the country for winning gold. Well, the second guy, he's tied with the first guy for number one spot in Kazakhstan for number of gold medals they've won. So that's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Well, this guy is such a sort of post-pubescent, which so many of these people are. I mean, so many of these athletes, you know, are too young to drive and too young to drink.

SPEAKER_03

I think the youngest competitor was 14.

SPEAKER_00

Something like that.

SPEAKER_03

And the oldest was 54.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, that was a curling guy. Yeah, I think so. We'll get to that in a minute. But this guy was like a mouthful of braces, a really screwed-up hair situation, um, just, you know, dork, just dorky. You know, you can see this guy, he's a figure skating being bullied in school, um, and suddenly he's winning the gold medal. And no one in the world was more shocked about it than he was.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think that's probably true, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's it's all about, well, if you don't fall on this ice, you get a gold medal. Yeah. There you go. Um, and so Malin was a hundred percent expected to win this. Um, and then there were two Japanese men who had skated really brilliantly at one point. I guess the ice was fluctuating in quality depending on the temperature, and I guess the temperature was low for the men's. I mean, when they say like it was kind of slushy, that that doesn't even sound possible.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, what a disaster, really, the whole thing is, and I feel bad for this. By the way, this guy Scheider off was dancing to music called the Diva Dance.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay. Well, it wasn't painted black like everybody else, so I mean there was a lot of that going around.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that was so weird. There were all these people skating to paint it black.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, all different sort of versions of it, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, just it was really interesting.

SPEAKER_00

It was so weird, and there were a lot of like old rock songs that had been reconfigured for ice skating. Um, and then of course, every other person did bolero.

SPEAKER_03

Right, yeah, but that's all that's a common one.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

It has been for a long time, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But still, there it was it was like, okay, it's either bolero, um, painted black, or diva dance.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, okay, all right, yeah, all right. That's maybe maybe they've been told that's what they have to choose from. So you know, maybe the committee said, hey, here's here's your three songs.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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Pick one.

SPEAKER_00

Well, lucky, lucky for Siderov, he picked Diva Dance.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah. Um one thing I've got to say about Malin and about the Quad God is that he was interviewed right after he had this disaster, and everyone was, you know, okay freaking out. Um and crying and the whole thing. And he was interviewed immediately. He was so composed, so calm, really eloquent, he he didn't show any sign of being disaster, you know, of having just survived a disaster.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Where on the ice he had, you know, he had a moment where he kind of freaked out right after his program. But he pulled himself together instantly. And I've gotta say that was impressive because the ego and the situation with that guy was kind of over the top. I'm interested to see in the long program if they're able to improve the quality of the ice.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Um yeah, that's gonna be a that's gonna be a big deal.

Oscars Preview And Marty Supreme

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Or if everyone's gonna be just, you know, tobogganing instead of ice skating. One of the things about the Winter Olympics that I really love is curling. And it's a it's a sport that people make fun of, that people don't understand, and that I don't think too many people watch.

SPEAKER_03

Well, no, uh let me uh let me tell you this. I I understand it. I still make fun of it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. No, I mean you know what I'm saying? Uh it's and it's it's just because that's the thing, that's the thing I'm making fun of. Not because the sport itself isn't fun, because it is. I have a lot of fun watching it. Um there's a lot of thought that goes into it. So it's you know, it's really very interesting to me. But uh, but yeah, it's you know, no one's gonna look at it and say, oh, this is a very athletic event.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's got tons of strategy and skill. It's definitely not just some people, you know, pushing around.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, sliding rocks down the ice. That's not it. There's there's a lot of thought that goes into it. Yeah. Yeah, and and it's every shot an enormous amount of mathematics, actually, goes on in their heads with the angles and right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So it's um I I love it, and I love the fact that I love the countries that are involved in it. I love all the northern Europeans, the Americans, the Canadians. I love this group of sort of cold weather countries where they get together and do their curling, which is advertised as a very social game slash sport. Yeah. Um like as well as uh a physical endeavor.

SPEAKER_03

I mean I was comparing it to like bowling, right? To a bowling league, which is half bowling and half just hanging out with your friends, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Well, the thing about curling is it does require some physical acuity.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, you bowling does too.

SPEAKER_00

So well, I've seen bowlers that you know are smoking, drinking, and have huge guts.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. I've seen I've seen curlers with huge guts.

SPEAKER_00

Really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't see any. You'll have to point that out to me.

SPEAKER_03

Not in this particular Olympics, but this this is not the only curling that's going on in the world.

SPEAKER_00

Well, what these well, of course not. But what these guys are doing, and and I say guys, but there are of course women curlers, um, you know, all that all that uh moving around on the ice, that's not nothing. You know, they're gliding around. Um and especially when they're actually curling, when they're with the broom stuff, you know, you can't just, I don't think you can just step onto the ice and curl without some physical ability. I think it would be really hard to be good at it. But I don't know. What do I know? Nothing. Um, so the Winter Olympics has been um crazy. I love when I see the Swedes, I'm half Swedish, um, which is something that I rarely mention, and I honestly that I rarely think of, um, until I see a Swedish team. So I feel like if Sweden or the United States wins, those are sort of my teams. I've even been having cravings for ginger snaps lately, which I found out are called popper cock.

SPEAKER_03

Uh paprika. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03

I've actually heard that word, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So crazy. I wanted to play what would Brian Boitano do um today. I just that suddenly started going through my head. Did you remember that, Michael?

SPEAKER_03

The song? Yeah. I'm I mean, I remember hearing it when it came out. I couldn't I wouldn't recognize it if it was playing now, probably.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's from South Park, uh-huh. Which I didn't remember. And it's loaded with expletives. So that's why we couldn't play it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's probably a pretty good reason why we can't.

SPEAKER_00

We couldn't I would I was positive. I was positive I was gonna use it, and then I thought, well, let me listen to it the whole way through, and it's just not safe for radio or for work. Um anyway, it's been fun having the Olympics.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I've been having fun with it, it's cool.

SPEAKER_00

And then the next thing we have coming up is the Oscars.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I am pretty pumped about the Oscars this year because I've managed to watch a lot of the films that are nominated.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And they're really good. And the one that I watched over this last week is Marty Supreme. Right.

SPEAKER_03

And I've got to say The new movie that Timothy Chalamet is supposed to be in.

SPEAKER_00

And yeah, exactly. But you can't find him.

SPEAKER_03

No, he's he oh my god, he looks amazing and nothing like, you know, nothing like the He looks nothing like himself. No, it's great. And it's it's very brave, I think. Because it's it's not an attractive look.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not an attractive look. But it's also it's it's about a really conflicted person. I mean, this is a person who does some pretty awful things. Um, but does some wonderful things. I mean, it's weird because you're seeing someone who's constantly um, I don't even know what you call it, like a flim flam kind of guy. A confidence.

SPEAKER_03

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What do you call those confidence?

SPEAKER_03

You call them a con man.

SPEAKER_00

Right, a con man, um, and a brilliantly, a brilliant one. Um, but you're rooting for him the whole time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So there's this cognitive dissonance it puts you in, where you see these terrible things that he does, and they're not all terrible, but certainly they're not above board, let's put it that way.

SPEAKER_03

Right, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, not recommended for the general public, right, and a lot of it's you know, criminal, um not violent, you know, um, but still he's not a great person, but you are in love with this guy and you can't stop rooting for him. Yeah. Now there are some very interesting casting choices in this film, and one of them is Kevin O'Leary. Oh my goodness, yes. From Shark Tank.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Mr. Wonderful from the Shark Tank show.

Soundtrack And Safty Style

SPEAKER_00

He is fantastic. He was really something, wasn't he? I could not believe it. He was so good. I can't imagine how he ended up being cast in this film.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

In any film.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you know, someone just said he he was kind of being himself, so you know, that sort of made sense, right?

SPEAKER_00

Well, no, it was much. I mean, he did play, you know, the head of a huge company. Yeah. But no, a lot going on. I mean, when you talk about stuff wrong, and he had one of the most intense scenes in the movie, actually. Um, and one where you wanted to cover your eyes was him.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

To-Watch List And Secret Agent

SPEAKER_00

He was the the pivot point of it, and he had to get really intense and really dark and nasty, and in a way certainly that you would never see on Shark Tank. Um, this was like several levels down from that. Uh, but he also it was very nuanced, it was a very nuanced performance. And I don't know how the heck he pulled together acting chops. Um, oh, I guess partly from being on television. I mean, he knew where the camera was, he knew how to get in the light. You know, he he really knew what he was doing as far as handling, you know, being on a set, being in makeup, being in lights, you know, being seen through a camera lens. Right. And then there were these other amazing people. There's this young woman called Odessa Atsion, who is a I I did sort of a dive into her because I was like, where did she come from? She was amazing. And she played this girl, Rachel, who was Marty's girlfriend, um, sort of. Oh god, he was a bad boy. He really Marty Supreme is a bad boy, but he's supreme.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then there's the whole ping pong situation.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Yeah, that's basically the uh the uh backdrop for the whole story.

SPEAKER_00

And he that was incredible. I mean, I I guess that uh Timothy spent months learning about how to play the game um, you know, at an Olympic level, speaking of the Olympics.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and just extraordinary. I'm not certain what parts of this were based in truth and what weren't. I think this was partially based on an actual person.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I believe it is.

SPEAKER_00

Uh oh, Fran Dresher? Oh, right, yeah. She was superb. Sandra Bernhardt had a very small role. She was only in one or two scenes, but she was great. Everyone in the film was terrific. And um Gwyneth Paltrow? Oh! I forgot to mention.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I thought she was retired too, but no, she's in this one.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I've gotta say, I have never been a fan of Gwyneth Paltrow. And I loved her in Shakespeare in Love.

SPEAKER_03

I thought that was I thought that was great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And she was 18, I think. Oh, yeah. And won the Oscar. And I'll never forget the dress she was wearing at the Oscars. She was in a Ralph Lauren gown that was like two sizes too big. Oh, okay. Anyone who's interested, I'm looking at you, Silver Lake. She was uh, yeah, go John Baker. I want you to look up Gwyneth Paltrow's acceptance speech and tell me about the fit of the bodice of that Ralph Lauren pink princess dress. Um, I think this might be one of those things where she was fitted for the dress, say, I don't know how long before.

SPEAKER_03

Then she lost and then she lost 30 pounds. Yeah, I was gonna say, all in her boobs.

Winter Blues, Dogs, And Visitors

SPEAKER_00

Well, for her, yeah, 10 pounds would be like a huge percentage of her total weight. At any rate, she was superb in this film. She played a sort of over-the-hill actress, um, movie star, slightly over the hill, past her prime, and she and Marty end up having an affair. And that was wild too, because you're seeing um Timothy's like 30, and Gwyneth's gotta be, I don't know, close to 60.

SPEAKER_03

Uh 53 or something like that.

SPEAKER_00

So there's this, you know, big age difference.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And you don't usually see some young, hot guy going after a woman that's 25, his senior. Right. And they had chemistry like you wouldn't believe. Timothy Chalamet absolutely deserves to win the Oscar for Best Actor.

SPEAKER_03

So uh I I got something else about the about this dress. Uh-huh. Um in 2023, Gwyneth did a a commercial for Goop. Right. For her company Goop, uh Macy's commercial. She wore the same dress in that commercial. Uh-huh. Just saying, you know, it's 20 years later or 30 years later.

SPEAKER_00

And it probably fits her now.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah.

Time Flying And Spring Plans

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. No, she, it was definitely several sizes too large. Yeah. I couldn't. That's what I remember most about that whole thing was watching the Oscars, seeing her sitting there in that dress while they were announcing the nominees and just saying, Oh, I can't believe she's in that dress. What stylist would let her? Anyway, that's me. Uh, so Gwyneth Paltro and everyone else in that cast, I'm probably forgetting other mean people, but Kevin O'Leary had a big role. It wasn't like he was in one or two scenes. Yeah. He was a key, and he is not nominated for Best Supporting Actor, which I think is a shame. Um he really was amazing. And the soundtrack was really cool. Uh-huh. Um, this took place in, I think in the 30s. Or in no, maybe it was like the 40s. The late 40s. Um and or early 50s. That had to be what it was, late 40s, early 50s. And uh the soundtrack they used was 90s.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

Like um, they used Peter Gabriel at one point. They used just some really interesting choices in the sound at soundtrack. This was a Josh Safty movie. And the Safty brothers, if you don't know, are uh they make movies. Yeah. And they make they make movies that lots of people like to watch. So they're a big deal.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, we had the uh the Marty Supreme. Marty Supreme, yep. Can't recommend it highly enough. Um and I don't know what else I need to watch. I saw Hamnet, I saw um Sinners. Sinners. Um I saw one problem after another.

SPEAKER_03

One battle after another. It's a battle? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I that I cannot remember the name of that movie. One battle after another. Sinners.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, there was another movie. Party Supreme.

The Neurologist Story Begins

SPEAKER_00

Now, oh, Sentimental Value. There you go. Uh Gotta Watch Secret Agent.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

That's the other big one. I don't do you know anything about that movie, Mike?

SPEAKER_03

I do not know.

SPEAKER_00

So I don't know anything about it. I don't know who's in it.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so I've gotta give that a Wagner Mura is his name, the guy who plays the uh the lead role. Most of these names I don't know except for uh Udo Kierr, who plays a guy named Hans, and he always plays uh bad guys. So he's he's in a lot of things. Uh but other than that, I really don't know who any of these people in this movie are.

SPEAKER_00

What's the name of that Brit that always plays the really bad guys? I don't know. I'm gonna come and beat you to a pulp. That guy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You don't know who I mean.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. You're talking about Jason Statham? I mean that's that was the voice you were almost doing. Yeah. He doesn't play bad guys, though, usually. He plays good guys who beats up a lot of bad guys.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I mean, he usually is in the good guy role. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03

Um Well. But that was a pretty good Jason State. I under I knew who you were doing from your voice. That was that was amazing, pretty, pretty much.

SPEAKER_00

That's one yeah, one of my best.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yes, certainly one of your better ones. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

I never thought in a million years that I'd be good at doing a Jason Statham. Yeah, how about that? It turns out that I am. You sure are. So I need to see Secret Agent. I have no idea what it's about. Is it like uh uh cat's mouse?

SPEAKER_03

I'll I'll give you the very the nutshell. It follows Armando, a former professor caught in the political turmoil in uh in the midst of a Brazilian military dis dictatorship. Oh, cool. Attempting to flee persecution and resist the regime.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um It received widespread acclaim at Cannes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And oh, Best Actor went to Mora at Cannes.

SPEAKER_03

So Also, first Brazilian film nominated for Best Picture.

SPEAKER_00

Well, exact that's what's so interesting, too. The fact that we have I'm definitely gonna watch that. Um that's not what I thought that film was gonna be, and I'm glad you told me. Um the uh sentimental value. We've got a Norwegian film. Oh, right, yeah. In the category.

Tremor vs Parkinson’s Explained

SPEAKER_03

Oh, wait a minute. It was it it was up for Best Picture at the Globes. It's best foreign language film nominated for the Oscars. So well, Sentimental It's been nominated for Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Casting, and Best International Feature Film.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. So well I am definitely um interested in seeing I I have a lot of problems with the Academy Awards. With all the awards shows, they really bum me out um to a large degree. But this year I've seen almost everything, and if I haven't, I'm gonna catch up on it. It's not till the end of March. I keep thinking you know, that time is running out, but I'm gonna watch everything.

SPEAKER_03

And then uh and then you know what happens after March? Oh ten more tennis. Oh and Garrow, right, in in the beginning of May. Yeah. So excited. Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_00

You know, it's it's we're in the middle of this sort of what's getting kind of exhausting, this endless snowscape. Yeah, it's getting uh that we've been it's getting tiring. Yeah. It's been what, two weeks, three weeks, or I'm done with it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm all done. That we've had a thick layer of snow.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Stupid winter. Come on. We're not supposed to have winter around here.

SPEAKER_00

Well we're Cape Cod. Winter, but this this just cold that that no break from the cold. I think this week they're supposed to be a few days above 40. Okay. Which sounds like, you know, tropical at this point. Yep. Might even have some rain, actually. So I just want some of the snow to melt. Yeah. I mean, even for the poor dogs, our dogs are like they hate. Is there still grass? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Is there still exactly they're going out to try to find stuff to sniff, and it's like it's just snow. They got nothing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's getting a little better. I mean, some of it is melted. Um, like where we had it plowed. But other than that, uh, but they're, you know, they're still happy to be out there.

Doctor’s Tangents And Treatment Talk

SPEAKER_00

We had the best weekend. Our last weekend, our friend Nell came to visit us, and that was delightful. Yeah. It was great having company. It's been so dreary. Um, it definitely was a boost. I mean, between this horrible cold and snow and hospital and all this stuff that's been going on, um illness and and it was a very bright spot. I also want to say that we have voted, uh, Michael and I have, and for this month, certainly, the best friend awards go to John Baker, Silver Lake, and Nal Hanley, yeah, who is of Stuyvesant. So that's delightful. And we are looking forward to, I'm starting to hear that uh different people, people are starting to like make the reservations. I was talking to a friend of mine in London yesterday who told me um he wants to come in April. And I thought, well, that sounds far. He said, Is there any time that you're unavailable? And so I went and I said, Well, the only thing I can think of really is Passover, and went and looked it up. It's April 1st, it's Passover. So he was saying, okay, well, sometime in the middle of the month, like the 7th, the 15th, something like that. And I'm realizing how soon that is. And it's, I don't know, time is going a little. Too quickly. I probably say that constantly.

SPEAKER_03

We kind of all do.

SPEAKER_00

But I just feel like as much as I'm ready for spring and for warm weather and sunshine and all of it, I also feel like let's take a breath.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Let's slow it on down.

SPEAKER_03

I think we might want to do that a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

Closing Reflections And Tribute Song

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, I had a very special, speaking of hospitals, a very special doctor's that I feel I need to tell you about, and which accounts for the music we played at top of the show, The Witch Doctor. Was definitely written by Dr. Bruce Bellaflora, a specialist in Boston and neurology. Now, in addition to all my other woes, um, I have what's called an essential tremor that I just developed. And it runs in my family a little bit. Um, so it's fun that I got to participate too. Oh yeah. Um but I have a little tremor. My hands are a little shaky, and my head's a little shaky, and so I thought, all right, this is getting to be kind of it started in the summer a little bit, and then it started to be like, wait a second, this is going on all the time. It's getting a little worrisome. Right. So I did all the things, I had the MRI of the brain to rule out brain tumor and stroke. Well, that was nice. Yeah. And then, long story short, it came down to all right, you need to go to a neurologist. You probably either got essential tremor or Parkinson's.

SPEAKER_03

Right. That's basically what it comes down to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So anyway, I went to Dr. Bellaflora. And he walked into the room. Michael and I were seated next to each other, waiting for the doctor to enter the room. And quite late, by the way.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, that's he?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Okay. I didn't I didn't notice that. Um, but anyway, it doesn't surprise me in the least bit. So this guy, like a like a tornado, like the Tasmanian devil.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, oh yeah, very much like that.

SPEAKER_00

Came whirling spinning through the into the room, and laser focuses on Michael and starts with, hi, oh, I'm Dr. Bella Flora. Hey, it's nice to meet you. How are you? Oh, I see your armed forces. What were you? Army, Navy, and and Michael was wearing uh an Air Force. An Air Force, right, so uh they get into this whole conversation, um, and he's saying, Oh yeah, well, and and he said he says, and thank you for your service. And I was like, that's the first time I've heard that in a doctor's office. Now, meanwhile, I'm the patient. Right, yeah, and he has not looked at me, he has not got a chance. No, just having just having a little chit-chat with your husband. Yep, and he's totally going into this deep dive with Michael, and then he turns to the computer and he types in a couple of things and he says, Okay now. And at that point he looks at me and he says, Ann! Oh, Ann! Like he suddenly realizes I'm the patient.

SPEAKER_03

It's really very funny, too, because I have not even the slightest tiniest mention of a tremor anywhere. But you're you're sitting there doing a little shaking, and and he's he walked in the door, he saw both of us, but no, he looks at me. It it was the guy who's sitting there like a chunk of granite who's about to go to sleep.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And he comes in to wake you up. Yeah. And I'm I'm thinking, well, what is this? Is this This is very funny.

SPEAKER_03

Is this a case of like misogyny or like I said, I think he's just a very well scattered guy who who does not have a lot of internal thought processes.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, this guy has no filter.

SPEAKER_03

They all come out on the outside. His thinking is all external. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. No, this guy has no filter, and it's all coming out. And so everything I'm thinking is coming out right now. Right now.

SPEAKER_03

Right, exactly. Yeah. So So you don't have Parkinson's. That was one of the first things he said.

SPEAKER_00

One of the first things is he says, all right, put your hand on your thigh. All right, you don't have Parkinson's. Yeah. And I'm like, huh? And he explains, if you had your hand on a surface and you were and the you were still shaking, yeah, that would be an indication maybe of Parkinson's.

SPEAKER_03

Right. It you would be leaning more in that direction. But since he's looking at your hand is on a table and it's not moving at all, he can kind of rule it out.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And at that point he's saying, okay, move your head this way. Move he starts to actually, you know.

SPEAKER_03

He's investigating, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Look at that.

SPEAKER_03

He's doctoring, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um and did he ask me one question about myself? Uh like what do I do? You know, he got into the whole armed forces with you. Did he? Right. I don't think he did. He didn't ask me any. Yeah, that's really interesting. Um, which is so bizarre. Yeah. Well, so then he's going on about now, you know, let's talk about tremors. I have a tremor. My job is a little bit of a. Everyone has a little tremor. And I'm gonna demonstrate it by putting this paper towel first on my own hand. Right. And you can see the paper towel is trembling a little bit. Yeah. And now we'll put it on Michael's hand, and that's not trembling at all.

SPEAKER_03

It wasn't trembling at all, but okay.

SPEAKER_00

But he said, Well, that's just a tiny tremor. And then he put it on mine, and it was all over the place. Yeah, you were and he said, now I'm gonna explain to you what a tremor is. So this morning I get into my car. Yep. And he he has an electric car, I assume, because he uh well, who knows what he was describing. He says, so I get in my car and I push the button and I hear uh and that was it. Then I push it again, uh I push it a third time, uh and it starts going. Now, and somehow that's this is a demonstration of tremor, um, in in some way or another. Um I still don't quite get it.

SPEAKER_03

I don't I don't know where the whole car thing fit into any sort of explanation.

SPEAKER_00

But the car thing was there.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, oh yeah, it was there do what I just said. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah I know none of this sounds and then he choked you. Well, that was another thing. He says, well, well, first he says, now there was one time, because I do have a little tremor myself, one time I was going to give a big speech at Havid. And I'm thinking, seriously? Yeah, well someone hired you to give a speech? Wow. Um he is talkative, so you know it makes sense. And he says, and I was nervous as could be. I've never been so nervous in my life. So, like I said, my daughter has a tremor. So I took one of her ACE inhibitors, yeah, and I took that. And so at that point, I'm hitting the brakes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You took one of your daughters' pills.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that you know what fine. Uh, you know what? Kind of a lot of people do that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

If I if I have a lot of pain and I don't have any pain pills around, you know, the heavy duty ones, I'm gonna ask you for. Uh, you know, can I I I'm I'm I'm having a lot of pain. And uh and w we're good, right? But uh but I'm not a doctor telling it to a patient.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that he takes his daughters.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And that's I don't think it's illegal, like, woo gonna call the cops. I think it's very ill-advised. I mean, it's considered a big no-no, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so the doctor himself is saying, so I had to give this big speech at Havid, and I took one of my daughter's ACE inhibitors.

SPEAKER_03

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then I get up there and I'm too calm. And I all I can think is, Jesus, you should be taking ten of these a day. If if we have found something to calm you down, yeah. Oh, so then uh and at this point, I so he's saying, now we could give you that, but the oh oh no, I didn't even get to talk about his double vision.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I'm sorry, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Then he tells us he has double vision.

SPEAKER_03

And he says, now what we can do for you is give you uh Botox to deal with some of the muscles in your maybe sp like spasming and causing this.

SPEAKER_00

That's where the uh the tremor, the head tremor is coming from.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you won't be able to do anything for your hands.

SPEAKER_00

All I could think was So here's a guy who's a lunatic and has double vision and a tremor.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, and he wants to stick you with a needle.

SPEAKER_00

Right, inject Botox.

SPEAKER_03

In your neck.

SPEAKER_00

In my neck. Uh-huh. And I'm like, alright, whatever. This world is too crazy. It took me forever to get this appointment.

SPEAKER_03

That that is true, yeah. You know, I took you since the summer.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know that I'm gonna start.

SPEAKER_03

And you weren't even supposed to have it yet. You were still you were scheduled for like the middle of next month or something.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. No, in May.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, in May, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

May 15th.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so uh, but we saw it. I gotta cancel it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Anyhow. Anyway, yeah. Um well this has been another fabulous week here in our world, and we've been delighted to share it with you. And we certainly look forward to what will be coming up in the next seven days, and uh we'll get together with you again. We're hearing uh Paula Cole, one of my favorite singers, and I didn't know that she did this song. I didn't either that this was the Dawson's Creek theme. Right. Or is the Dawson's Creek theme, which we are playing for uh a beloved actor, uh whom we lost this week.

SPEAKER_03

48 years old, man.

SPEAKER_00

And colorectal cancer. I'm telling you, cancer is one of the scourges of this planet. Um but for James Vanderbeek, please put a light on.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, so do the little more deep all we have is this very bow. And I don't wanna do his father, it's father, it's bothered, I don't wanna be light, stay a little bread for light, you know that if we are to stay alive, stay the bee and I don't wanna wait to be over. I don't want to wait to be over. You know that we are just too late, see the love and