Cardinal Pizzaballa: Meet Baloney Pockets

The headlines feel like they’re written by a prankster, so we start where any sane Tuesday begins: an April Fool’s argument about Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins, and whether “What A Fool Believes” can possibly be called a cover. Then the mood shifts hard into a true crime mystery that’s been eating at us, the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie’s 84-year-old mother. With a $1 million reward, cameras everywhere, and weeks gone by, we keep coming back to the same question: what motive makes sense, and why does it still feel like nobody knows anything?

From there we jump to Jerusalem and Palm Sunday reporting about access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, plus the way a single claim can turn into global outrage when people are already raw. Anne brings lived experience from Israel and pushes back on what sounds exaggerated, while we talk about why sources matter, what gets lost in translation, and how fear travels faster than facts.

The back half turns into a whirlwind of modern anxiety and very real consequences: rumors of boots on the ground in Iran, a teacher accused of bringing marijuana to school to sell to minors, and the rise of AI music and AI-generated junk that’s slipping onto charts. We also get personal about how AI can be used for harassment and stalking, then zoom out to public health with measles surging again. We end on incarceration stories and deaths in custody, then take one last sharp detour into the bizarre with “baloney pockets,” plus pop culture check-ins from The Hail Mary Project to celebrity image changes and classic-rock cameos.

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Transcript

Welcome And April Fools Debate

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Hello. Welcome to the Anne Levine Show. It is Tuesday, March 31st, 2026. And you are listening to us on WOMR 92.1 FM in Provincetown, Massachusetts.

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I neglected to say that that was Michael over there.

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Hello.

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That you were just listening to.

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Also Michael on the in the song. Not not this Michael, but a different one. Michael McDonald.

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Yes, who is singing What a Fool Believes. Yep. Which is uh our April Fool's song.

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That's right.

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Got some April Fools happening tomorrow.

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Also, believe it or not, technically a cover song.

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Yeah, you've told me the story and I don't understand it. And I don't buy it.

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Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins got together to write some songs.

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Uh-huh.

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They wrote this song together. They also wrote the song This Is It. Right. Big one that Kenny Loggins had. Right. And um, what happened is that uh Michael was gonna release this one first. Kenny would get This Is It. That's what they decided. However, Michael's schedule did not allow for it. So Kenny was uh allowed to release the song first, a month ahead of this one.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

That doesn't make it a cover.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Well, it does make it the second version of the song to be played on the radio.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Thank you. The second version, it doesn't make it a cover. And you've got this whole thing about this being a cover.

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Yeah.

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And I think it's time to, you know, come to Jesus because it is Easter. It is Friday coming up.

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He should be around any minute.

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He's around. He's coming back this weekend. Okay. And when he gets here, I think you need to come to him about this issue.

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Okay.

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Yes, this is not a cover. And you have several things like this that you you come up with sort of pronouncements about certain things, decisions about certain things.

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Yeah.

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And they're funny and they're also annoying as all get out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because there's not just, it's not just, okay, this is a cover, but here's the explanation.

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Well, yeah.

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And in 1973, these two men met on a corner and wrote a song. I don't know. It's just a lot. It's a lot. But if if it was if you weren't a lot, I wouldn't love you as much as I do.

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Oh. Okay.

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So well, that's a good thing then. So it's good payoff.

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Yeah. And this is, by the way, uh, 1978.

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See? Right there. I want to slap your face. I want to slap your mama.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. Um, there's someone had this thing called Slap Your Mama.

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A barbecue sauce or something like that? Yeah.

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There's also something involving Jamie Lee Curtis and the handsome pod. But needless to say, I'm drifting off into unknown territory. I have something I I want to speak about.

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Okay.

Nancy Guthrie Disappearance Questions

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And part of part of this well. What the hell is the story with Savannah Guthrie's mother?

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Oh, you know what?

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What is that?

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That good question. We don't know. Nobody at this point knows. I don't understand. She's still gone. Yeah.

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I don't understand how she's still gone.

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I mean I I don't either.

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I've seen we've all seen police and investigators uncover things, high profile things, within 20 minutes.

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Well, and not to mention, there are cameras everywhere.

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Right. And there's a ring camera on her door.

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Yeah, and probably on all of her neighbors. Exactly.

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I mean, wow. But no one has come forward, and I don't believe that's because there's some sort of Savannah Guthrie, you know, I don't think she's been canceled.

SPEAKER_04 5:38

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

Um, but News Nation reporter Ashley Banfield, didn't she used to be one of your favorites?

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Oh no, no. But she used to be on CNN. Right. But not, no, not one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Well, she labeled uh Savannah's brother-in-law, Tommaso Chioni, as a suspect in Nancy Guthrie's disappearance. Uh-huh. And reports say Savannah isn't getting over the betrayal anytime soon. Uh so I I'm just baffled. I want some now. If I'm gonna kidnap someone, oh, and there have been people who have called in ransom.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

Yeah. But it's all been bogus. All bogus.

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Yeah. Um, because people like to get money for nothing.

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Now there is a reward.

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What's the reward?

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It's a million dollars.

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Uh-huh.

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So, you know, yeah, but still no one has come home forward with that. No.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

You would think that the impetus is out there. I'm trying to understand if not for money, if not for ransom, why would someone kidnap Nancy Guthrie?

SPEAKER_02 7:08

Yeah, that I do not know.

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Take a guess.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

Um, yeah, I I don't know. I I I mean, yeah, I true I truly don't have any idea. The woman had uh heart problems. Um, you know, she uh she had a pacemaker. And you know, I don't know. It sounds like a very bad idea, no matter what reason, why.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Now, do we know that Nancy Guthrie was kidnapped and didn't just suddenly wake up one day and say, you know what? I've had it. I've had it with this whole thing, this country, this state, this what I don't even know where she lived.

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Tucson.

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Uh uh well, like uh with Arizona, you call it a dry heat. I am out of here.

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Uh-huh.

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And she didn't get in her whatever car she drives and just start heading north.

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Right.

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Maybe up to the Spokane area. I don't know why I feel this needs to be a Ruby Ridge type situation. So we could take Spokane out of it.

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But just somewhere a little more. Spokane's a long way from Tucson.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Yeah, I'm thinking just somewhere a little more livable. Well, isn't there a whole white supremacy thing in Spokane?

SPEAKER_02 8:46

No, that's really in the uh in the panhandle of Idaho. Well, they're right next to each other, but it's m it's more Idaho than Spokane.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

Right, but I still thought there was some spill over there into Washington State.

SPEAKER_02 9:01

I mean, I'm sure I'm sure there is, yeah. But it's not uh I mean the majority of the like I lived in Spokane and didn't run across, you know. I we knew the skinheads were out there, but didn't really run across any.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Well, I I want to understand what the heck this is. I I don't understand like what's the motive someone has? It doesn't seem to be money.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

If they under see, that's the problem. They don't know what the motive is, which is making it much harder to find out what the heck happened.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

But what would it be? Like how old is she? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Maybe some wacko wanted a grandma. Wacko wanted a grandma and kidnapped her and has got her in his house, and you know, she's making cookies. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Now I'm guessing this woman is in her mid-70s. Uh Savannah's 54. Yeah. So I'm saying mid-70s, probably. Um I just I just find it baffling. Baffling? Yeah, it's baffling.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

It's really very weird. It's it doesn't make sense that we don't know more than we do. It really does not.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

Well, true crime.

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She's 84, by the way.

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Oh my god. True crime filmmakers are scrambling, as you can imagine, to cover this story. And Savannah is freaking out about that, which I would be too.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

She's she's also quite rightfully worried that people are gonna forget. Yes, you know that I hate it. And it makes it so much harder.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

Well, we live in a you know, 30-second attention span time. Um the In Touch magazine was talking about these people who want to make documentaries about it and saying the race is on to put together a definitive blow-by-blow account of the case.

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Yeah.

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Now, what I would say to Savannah is that, and it's been eight weeks now.

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It's fifty-eight days, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Um eight weeks since the first of February. Uh that if they are gonna do this, if these these different people are gonna do true crime podcasts about it or to put stuff on television, that will actually keep it uh, you know, the conversation continues. I mean, look at us right here off the bat. Hello? Yeah, hello Bueller. Hello, Bueller. Um, all right. Well, I want I I want uh I want to understand this. I want to know what the heck is going on.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

It just seems it's so random, it's so bizarre. If I was gonna sort of try to find a high profile person to kidnap for financial gain, I I wouldn't think of Nancy Guthrie.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

No, no, I don't think a lot of people would think of, you know, you're sort of I don't know. What I don't know what level you would put Savannah on. She's not the is she the top tier, right? I mean, she doesn't host a news show at the end.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

Well, I I mean here's the honest, here's my honest like litmus test on this. If you were to go to the mall, let's say, or a mall where they're doing family feud surveys.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

Oh, yeah, right. Okay.

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And ask people who's Savannah Guthrie.

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Yeah.

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How many people out of a hundred do you think are going to be able to answer that question accurately?

SPEAKER_02 13:59

That's a very good question. Now, I think today it would be more people than it would have last year, but uh I know of one, and that would be me. You know, I'm a f I like Savannah. I like her a lot. Yeah, no, but I mean I'm thinking that Yeah, she's not uh she's not in everybody's face, she's not on everybody's tongue, you know.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

Yeah, it's I mean, particularly news anchors, you know, and of course it's the demographic. If you go with someone in their 50s and their sixties, they're more likely to know. Um, I would think that most people, younger people, are not gonna have a clue. Right, yeah. Um, so again, a very strange person.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

People who watch the today show would know who Savannah Guthrie is.

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And those people are in their 90s and their hundreds. Right.

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They're not uh young people, yeah.

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And they're not people out and about trying to solve crimes. No.

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No. So I feel I don't I I'm so confused by this whole thing. They're not like, you know, Uber rich people. I I don't I don't know. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

I don't I don't either. And and her profile's not high enough to no yeah, it's just I'm wondering who who would benefit from this and in what way. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

Well the the police have and the FBI have definitively uh excluded everybody in the family. Right. So they are they've looked at them very closely, and none of them are involved. So Ashley, cut cut it out.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

Okay. Just cut that right out.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Yeah. No, I guess there's a son-in-law kind of uh I but I mean they have a there was a guy in a hoodie. They've got pictures to compare, you know, people to, at least slightly. So you know, and and ways to rule people out. Oh boy. So I don't know. And I I I hope they find her. I don't I don't know what if she's still alive. I it's hard to believe that she would be.

Palm Sunday Tension In Jerusalem

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Um Well, I know that th things in Israel have been super quiet lately, but um yeah, okay. But here's a little something um for so uh this past Sunday was Palm Sunday.

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Yeah.

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Um well on Palm Sunday the Israeli pre excuse me, the Israeli police prevented the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem. Wait till you hear this name.

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Okay.

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Hold on. His beatitude, Cardinal Pierre Batista Pizza Ballah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Cardinal Pizza. Exactly. Right on head of the Catholic Church in the Holy Land, together with the custos of the Holy Land, the most Reverend Friar Francesco Ilepo, OFM, the official guardian of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Oh, yeah, that guy. They prevented them from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem as they made their way to celebrate the Palm Sunday Mass. Now, before I continue with the story, let me just tell you where this is from.

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Okay.

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This is from something called custodia.org, Italia. Aha. Okay, so uh this could be fark. I don't know what this is. Right, okay. But I thought it was very timely. The two were stopped en route while proceeding privately and without any characteristics of a procession or ceremonial act, and were compelled to turn back. As a result, and for the first time in centuries, the heads of the church were prevented from celebrating the Palm Sunday Mass at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Oh man. Now, first of all, I don't buy any of this.

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Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

I'm an Israeli citizen. I lived in Israel. I went to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Bethlehem more than twice. Um I've sat and had coffee in Manger Square. I know what where we are and what we are, and every single year there are these major processions where busloads and plane loads of pilgrims come to Israel to go to Bethlehem, to go to Jerusalem, and to do the whole nine yards. Now, needless to say, for some reason, fewer people showed up this year. I can't think why, but um, yeah, you know why? Why? Because I don't think all the nuns feel comfortable running into a shelter in their habits.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

Being bombed or something. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

Well, no, they're not being bombed, but then they have to spend time in a shelter, which is not as nice as the church and the Well, yeah, I guess that's true. Um I mean they're co they don't mind kosher food, I assume.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

No, kosher, which is what they'll be getting. Right. Yeah.

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So this incident is a grave precedent and disregard the sensibilities of billions of people around the world who during this week look to Jerusalem. What do they look to Jerusalem for? Um You know what? I'm gonna go here today. Uh for reasons that I will expose at a future date on the Anne Levine show. My filters are crumbling. And I'm I'm saying what it is. So let's go here. What are people looking to Jerusalem for right now?

SPEAKER_02 21:30

Yeah.

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For salvation, for Ghan Eden, for the Garden Garden of Eden, for the historic what is what?

SPEAKER_02 21:44

Yeah, well, what is it? I'm asking you. Oh. Well, I'm not I'm I don't know, I'm not looking for any of those things.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Don't you have a conspiracy theory about this? Come on, Michael. You've got them about everything else.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

I uh you know what? I didn't even read. Read those Dan Brown books, or I I would really uh No, no, no, no Dan Brown.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

We don't need Dan Brown. You read the source.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Yeah, yeah, but I read that as a history. It is history. So you know, so that's not, you know, that's not conspiracy. Well Although I do want to go down around in those caves and in the tell. Oh my goodness, wouldn't that be amazing?

SPEAKER_01 22:28

It is amazing. I've done it.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

You know who loved that so much was my mother. Ah. Who read the source. Yeah, and people, you should read that book if you have not. And she got to Israel, and all she could talk about was the tell. I want to get to the tell. I want to get to the tell. Yeah. Telmegido, Armageddon. Right. And um, of course, now we had already done, I had taken them to all the spots, them being my parents, Emily and Larry. And so they had been to Jerusalem, they had been to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, they had been to the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, they'd been to the Wailing Wall, to Yad Vashem, to everywhere you take somebody, basically. They'd been down to a lot. I drove them up through the desert to Jerusalem. My father was white knuckled in the backseat because you can't go this way anymore. They've changed the the highway system dramatically to actually avoid where I went. But from where I lived in a lot, it was a straight shot to Jericho, and then you make a left.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

Okay. All right. Go to Jericho and hit a Louie.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Right. Yeah. Just when you're about to get to the really scary part, make a left, buy a Pamelo, and then make a left.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

Pierre Batista pizza bala. That is freaking awesome.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Isn't that awesome? And so we're driving up into the hills, because Jerusalem's up in the hills. Oh, yeah. For those who don't know. And you can see in the distance, nothing. It's blackness, but you can see lights and fires and Bedouin tents. And my father was terrified. He thought that some Bedouins were gonna come charging at us with sabers or something. We're in a car driving. And these tents of Bedouins are not near us. And Bedouins have no interest in trying to mess with, you know, some car driving past on the highway. But my poor dad, I tell you, when we got to Jerusalem, one of the funniest things is I got a little vermished uh when we got to Jerusalem, and I couldn't remember exactly. I more or less knew where I was going, but I couldn't remember exactly where to turn. So I opened the window and I asked a guy in Hebrew, of course.

SPEAKER_04 25:42

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

You know, hey guy. Yeah, hey guy, hey Hebrew speaking guy. Yeah, ooh, hotel. So I said, I said, epha bed malon med, where's the King David Hotel? Um and my father said, my father from the back seat is saying, let me ask him, let me ask him. And my mother who's sitting in the front seat is saying, Larry, shut up, you don't speak this language. It was hysterical. So the guy was said to me, like, oh, you take the next left, take the left at the next light, then you go, whatever, whatever, for a quarter of a mile, and boom, you're there.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

That's very funny.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

But he was so relieved to get to get there and to the relative safety and to get away from the Bedouins intents. Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Now, I'm trying to think if I would have that reaction or not. What do you think?

SPEAKER_02 27:04

Do you think that you would I would not have that reaction.

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You would not be fearful?

SPEAKER_02 27:09

No.

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Yeah.

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No, I don't think I would. I don't know why they would be bothering me. You know, I would not assume that they would.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

I think he thought and but I mean, and when I t try to describe the distance, these these people in these tents are nowhere near the highway. You could just sort of see the little fires burning in the distance.

SPEAKER_02 27:35

Right. I uh yeah, I c I understand. Yeah, it's it's very interesting that he he was had that worry about that.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

And I said, oh look, those are Bedouin tents. Look, there's the like I thought I was being God, if I could go down there and hang out, that would be cool.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

No, no I know I couldn't.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Nope, not hanging out. Nope. I mean, I would like to see it, is what I'm saying. Yes, you know. Absolutely. And driving by it, especially during the day, you can really get a sense of there are less and less, unfortunately in Israel, yeah. Um, they're trying to get the Bedouins to stop sort of living nomadically intense.

SPEAKER_02 28:24

Right, stop being Bedouins.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Nah, not stop being Bedouins, but stop. I mean, let's face it, Israel is so tiny.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

People always say it's smaller than New Jersey, which it is. Um, it's a tiny, tiny country um of eight million people, and you know, every square foot of land is very valuable.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Um having people leisurely sort of camping out on a few acres isn't working anymore. They want to build apartment buildings everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Yeah, they get you.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

So yeah, it's capitalist and it's just like here.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

I uh um w while we're here and before we would go anywhere else, I want to mention uh what's his name? Pete Pizza Baller.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

Did get to the church. Of course he did. Because Netanyahu said, you know, we gotta let him let him in. Of course he did.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

But uh yeah, so yeah, it it's it's all it this is this is the Italians being dramatic. Yeah, custodia te resante. Yeah. That's the site I happen to be reading from.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

And I think that happened uh uh Sunday, Sunday night.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Yeah, Palm Sunday. Yeah. Just this past Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Um we're expecting boots on the ground in Iran. Have you heard about that?

SPEAKER_02 30:12

I have heard about that, and that is sickening. Absolutely sickening. Uh we should not be there at all. Of course not. We shouldn't be really anywhere. I'm I'm not fond of the uh regime in Iran. I w I first went in the army when our hostages were being held there. Uh and I thought I was going. Um a lot of us did. Right. But uh, you know, that that never happened. But uh so I don't have any love for that whole situation, but there's we have no reason for being there. We got no reason at all.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

What am I hearing?

SPEAKER_02 31:04

I was just uh clinking at a little thing over here. Oh, just clinking.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

Clinking around.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

Yeah, clinking around. Beep, beep, beep. Exactly. Um so there you go with that one.

Teacher Accused Of Selling Weed

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Have you ever taught, have you ever been a teacher?

SPEAKER_02 31:26

I have been a teacher.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

Did you ever try selling weed while you were teaching, like to your students? Uh no. Okay. Well, there's someone someone did, very enterprising woman. Um, I taught people to teach people. Jocelyn MacArthur, age 33, um, is charged with bringing a bunch of weed to Overhills High School. She's a math teacher. Okay, a meth teacher? Yes, exactly. Walter White. Yeah. Um and so she's been charged with possession of a controlled substance with intent to sell to minors. Great. And then she had a bunch of I don't know, bongs or pipes or all the paraphernalia that you need. And she also had a weapon, which I think was like a machete. It was not a gun. Okay. Um, yeah, she had intent to manufacture, sell, or deliver. Now, I think when they say manufacture, that's just part of that phrase. So it's one of these three things. Um, and this is in Spring Lake. Where is Spring Lake, honey? Uh I don't know. Let's see. Let's see. Oh, look at North Carolina.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

North North Kakalacky.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Yeah, that's perfect. Um, and this is but she reeked of this is what one of one of the kids said. She reeked of marijuana every single day. Uh huh. Her classroom reeked of marijuana every single day. Oh my god. This has been an ongoing situation. And they tried to get rid of her multiple times over the years. Um why couldn't they? Yeah, that's my question. How come? Well, the the Overhills principal tried to fire this woman twice. He sent her home, and I love this. The county office sent her back to the school. Okay. Maybe that's where they were getting their weed. I don't know. Yeah. Oh, see? And I think you got it. A district spokesperson said. Yes. We take matters to student and staff safety seriously. We are following established district procedures in addressing this matter. The spokesperson declined to further comment on the situation, citing yada yada yada. Is that what he said? W yeah. Oh. Why? Okay. Well, why did you ask?

SPEAKER_02 34:26

Because that means uh it can mean something else. What can it mean? Well, you know, yada yada yada.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Uh-huh. And you know, yeah. Is this another thing? It's a Seinfeld reference. Uh I'm aware. Yeah. So oh really? Thanks for letting me know. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize that. I I wouldn't have said it.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Okay, yeah. Well, I mean, it's a specific reference about a specific thing.

SPEAKER_01 34:55

It is indeed.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

Who's Nancy Cartwright? Uh Bart Simpson. Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 35:05

Yeah. Um and and many other characters. She voices a lot of different characters, but yeah, Bart's primarily that's what she who what she's known for.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

Whatcha-hoo.

AI Songs And Digital Stalking

SPEAKER_02 35:16

Yeah, whatcha-hoo.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

Well, what I want want to mention now is some AI nonsense. Okay. Um, uh, which I hate AI nonsense. Okay. People, first of all, educate yourselves. You have got to figure out what's AI and what's not.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Yeah. It's getting harder to do, but I mean, you you just have to use your brain.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

Some of it's simple. But right now, three of the top five songs on iTunes are AI garbage.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Really?

SPEAKER_01 35:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 35:57

Huh?

SPEAKER_01 35:59

So how about that? How about that?

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Now I've had AI do do the music for a lot of songs for me. I think they're I think it's fun. That's not something that should be on the radio.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

I'll tell you about AI garbage that I've been getting recently. I have a stalkery ex.

unknown 36:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 36:27

Who's been writing me AI songs. Yeah. And and then doing little twee videos with them and and sending them.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

And so um I thought I had him blocked everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

Well, you know, I mean, as long as you have the same, you know, address.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

No, no, no. I d I've got email blocked, I've got blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_02 36:58

I know I'm saying they can just make a different account.

SPEAKER_01 37:01

Yeah, no, but they have not had the wherewithal to do that. These drunken idiots. I've just given them an idea. Sorry. Drunken idiots. Give them all the ideas you want. They're they're too soused to do anything or to think clearly of new ideas. But I find I all of a sudden I start getting stuff on Instagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

And I it had never occurred to me, oh, I need to block them on Instagram. Right. I need to block them on TikTok. So I've received three or four songs. It's hard to always tell which ones are for me. I mean, there are ones that mention my name and stuff that I did. But then there are ones that are sort of like things that are like, your love is a lie, and it was always a lie. Oh, good one. And I'm like, yeah, I kind of think.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

I kind of think this was more than 20 years ago, wasn't it? Excuse me? A twenty. No, no. The the X? 30. Yeah. Okay. 30 years ago. Wow. So Well, now that is a testament to you. What do you mean? Right that a guy out there after 30 years still hasn't gotten over you.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

Well, you know what is really sick and crazy about the situation is his girlfriend with whom he's been living for I don't know twelve years or so?

SPEAKER_02 38:48

Uh-huh. Yeah, something like that, or maybe a little longer, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

Yep. He she's complete, she knows. They sit and watch videos of me that he took 30 years ago. Wow. He'll sit and say, okay, look, here's where she does this or says that, or we did this or did that. Right. I mean, there's a that's man, that's that's the problem, isn't it? Well, you the creepiest psycho part of all of this is that when I left there, I really left, and I kind of left quickly. Um and so I left behind some clothes, um, and then personal items like the bathroom, nail polish, um, tampons, right, hair clips, uh, whatever, you know, shampoo, uh-huh, it's all still there. Yeah. And he won't let her touch it.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

Okay, that is weird.

SPEAKER_01 40:03

Okay, I've done a whole thing today. I've talked about my Docker X.

SPEAKER_02 40:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

I've talked about Israel without blinking. We don't know, we want to talk about dying people? Um sure, Michael. Give me what you got.

Measles Surge And Vaccine Anger

SPEAKER_02 40:21

I mean you did, you did, you know, you did uh give me what you got, Michael. Well, I mean, these are uh we're not talking about people who are dying just yet. However, 1,575 confirmed cases of measles reported so far this year.

SPEAKER_01 40:43

It's so disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

So far this year. Last year, 2025, the total was 2,285. Uh for the year.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Yeah, well Yeah. Well, I get a vaccine when you can have measles.

SPEAKER_02 41:02

Just absolutely insane. You know what's really what's really crazy is we got we got rid of measles. We got rid of all kinds of smallpox, we got rid of all kinds of stuff. I saw this thing the other day where uh this woman uh in the United States had been bitten by a bat.

SPEAKER_03 41:20

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

And uh she went to the doctor and they said, okay, well, you know, you gotta get uh the shots. And uh they suggested everybody in the family also do it because if uh bat bites can be very minuscule, you might not even know you've been bitten. So uh if it was in the house, you might want to have everybody tested, right? They went to France, they moved to France, and she went to the doctor and said, um asked about rabies vaccines there in France. And the doctor said, uh, yeah, we can we can give you a rabies vaccine, but we do not have rabies anymore in France.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

Of course.

Deaths In ICE And Jails

SPEAKER_02 42:08

Well, so you see, those things, yeah, it's uh anyway, that's so anyway, measles going crazy. So and it's not good. Oh that's depressing. Here's a here's another depressing uh good, good fact for you. Uh the number of immigrants in the custody of ICE has nearly doubled over last year. Oh god. Forty-six people have died since President Trump took office last year. Thirteen people have died in the first three months of this year.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

In custody?

SPEAKER_02 42:52

In custody. Yeah. Horrendous. Isn't that isn't that uh fabulous? But uh they're not the uh but he's not necessarily just the problem. Here's another one. Uh this year, ten people have died in Los Angeles County jails.

SPEAKER_01 43:16

Okay. That doesn't seem like an alarming. Oh, you mean of measles or something?

SPEAKER_02 43:22

No, just died in custody at the jail. Since 2023, 133 people have died in LA jails.

SPEAKER_01 43:33

Oh, this this comes as no surprise to me.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

It's a lot.

SPEAKER_01 43:38

It is a lot. It is?

SPEAKER_02 43:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Uh and are we saying there were four. Inmate on inmate.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

What's the story? It's uh, well, it's lots of different things. Uh it's inmate on inmate. Inmate, it's not being uh n not the right medical care. It's uh you know, there's there's lots of you know, no medical care in some cases. Um died, sixty-two percent of them were uh being held pretrial. Mostly because they couldn't afford bail.

SPEAKER_01 44:25

Well that I mean, yeah, these are standard prison reform is certainly in my top three or five things that you know, if I were the emperor of anything, I would initiate immediately.

SPEAKER_02 44:48

Yeah. Well, and suicides are also a very huge part of it. But anyway, that's uh well that's fun. Yeah.

Baloney In Pockets After Collapse

SPEAKER_01 44:58

I have a story about a dead person that's a little more fun than that. Okay. Um I have a story about a man who was found, um, who collapsed on the street outside, like just leaving Starbucks. Okay, right, and then went boom on the street and died of massive heart attack or stroke or something. And someone ran out to someone called 911, people ran out, and someone was rifling through his pockets to look for ID of some kind. And what they found in his pockets were slices of baloney. Okay. He was walking around with baloney in his pockets.

SPEAKER_02 46:07

Bologna in his pockets, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

Of his jeans. Okay. That's not like it's like diamonds on the soles of her shoes. Bologna in the shoes. Bologna in the pun of his jeans. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

Yeah. Wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:24

Um So you want to be careful.

SPEAKER_02 46:28

Why?

SPEAKER_01 46:29

He didn't say because he was dead.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

Right.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Um, and he he didn't want to talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess he wasn't being very talkative at the time.

SPEAKER_01 46:43

Now there was no mustard, no cheese, nothing to sort of just bologna. Nothing to sort of make it. I don't know what I would think. I mean, like individual slices of bologna. Yes. But like not not like one in each pocket, like say five slices.

SPEAKER_02 47:04

Like a little roll of them. Yeah. That's okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

Yeah. And obviously had a plan. If you reach into someone's pocket to grab their ID and you come out with a fist of greasy baloney, yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 47:22

I would be a little weird.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

I might run away. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

I don't blame you.

Hail Mary Project Film Buzz

SPEAKER_01 47:27

I just might run away. Um but but uh hey, this world is full of every kind of person you could possibly hope to meet, including the baloney carriers. Hey, you know what movie is supposed to be amazing? The bologna carriers.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

Hail Mary. Oh, the Hail Mary Project, yeah. It's uh Ryan Gosling's in that one. 53 million on the first weekend. Yeah, I know people are people are actually loving it.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

Um now, I of course, one of my favorite books ever.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

Yeah, I absolutely loved that book.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

And so I'm really I was worried about this film that they were just gonna screw it up.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

Um I guess they did change a few things. Well, you would have to change a few things. Yeah. Um otherwise it would be too long for young people to watch.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

Right.

SPEAKER_01 48:34

Um, but everything's gotta be truncated. There's such so much truncation going on. I'm feeling the other I'm feeling like lengthening.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

I want to draw. Is there a truncator?

SPEAKER_02 48:53

You know, like a like a terminator. Is there a truncator? Yeah. Maybe that's what's happening. There's one out there that's kind of conin the truncator. Yeah, that kind of thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:06

That kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 49:07

You have to worry about that. Well, I wouldn't, I I'm sure he wouldn't use conan for an interview.

SPEAKER_01 49:12

Maybe you have to worry about that.

Lady Gaga And Cosmetic Surgery

SPEAKER_02 49:14

It's not terribly scary.

SPEAKER_01 49:15

Lady Gaga turned 40.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 49:19

And I know, like, oh, but here's the thing. I saw her doing an interview, I don't know how many years ago. Fifteen years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 49:34

Yeah. Um with a number of years ago.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

With Fallon. And, you know, looking her Lady Gaga beautiful best.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

Right.

SPEAKER_01 49:45

And then I saw her appearance for her 40th birthday.

SPEAKER_02 49:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:49

Unrecognizable. Oh, really? She's done it. Oh, and she pulled it Jennifer Gray. Oh, yeah. And it's so depressing because she's so gorgeous.

SPEAKER_02 50:02

Oh, she did not need I bet I gotta look this up.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

Yeah. She did like a hair thing, a lip thing, an eyebrow thing. I honestly looked at the new the new pictures, the recent ones, and I didn't know who I was looking at.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Yeah, I don't know. It looks like her the shape of her face has changed.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

Oh, yeah, and that's and that was one of the things that was so lovely. Yeah, that heart-shaped face. Yeah. People Yeah, she's had like a jaw thing done or something or a chin thing. It's a lot, right? I don't I mean, I see that it's her, I guess, but I don't like it. I do not like it.

SPEAKER_01 50:53

And that weird hair, that blonde hair st I don't know. Yeah, well, I mean the hair that's gonna change in, you know, ten minutes, but just the but the whole look of her on that show was Yeah, it's weird.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

It's not good. I d uh yeah, she she's done herself a disservice with this.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

I bet if you went back and asked her when she was twenty, you know, would she do X, Y, or Z? Yeah, she probably would have said no.

SPEAKER_02 51:26

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

No, I would never get a facelift.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

Right.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

I would never have my jaw resculpted.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

Right, yeah. I think she had her eyes done too, because they're going up a little more than you used to, which come on, you were already beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 51:43

Exactly, and now you're not. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

Now you look more like uh Kim Kardashian.

SPEAKER_01 51:52

Oh Joe Walsh.

Joe Walsh Mentors On TV

SPEAKER_02 51:54

Yeah, I think he's had some work done too, and it's not good.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

He was on um The Voice this year.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

Totally bizarre seeing Joe Walsh, you know, mentoring people, yeah. And then these kids pretending they know who he is. That's my favorite part. Is that your favorite part? Well, where they walk in to meet their mentor. Oh, yeah. And they find out, oh, Joe Walsh.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

Or Jennifer Hudson. Well, I would have been I would have been Joe Walsh, but um but no, Joe Walsh.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

Yeah, Joe Wah. I like that guy. Jay Wah. Um anyhow, yeah, people that they don't know. And they have to pr fanboy out over them and pretend like they walk in, it's like it's Joe Walsh.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

As if they have a clue.

SPEAKER_02 52:59

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

Who, what, where, when, and 20-year-old.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

Got no idea. Oh I saw a killer YouTube video the other day with um Joe Walsh and uh Vince Gill doing having like a a guitar battle. Uh-huh. It was it was very cool. And they both they play together a lot uh with the Eagles. Because uh Vince Gill is now like a part-time or full-time one of the Eagles.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

Well see, you've got you that's totally weird. Yeah. He's not an Eagle.

SPEAKER_02 53:41

Well, he is now, yeah. They've lost too many people. Now they have to have, you know, now they have to have other guys. If they want to keep going.

SPEAKER_01 53:51

They want to keep going. I know, but Vince Gill for the Eagles, I'm sorry, it doesn't work for me. Well, I mean, he's a Southern Rock guy.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

You know, he was with Pure Prairie League.

SPEAKER_01 54:04

My favorite movie, um that's gonna be right up there with Cocaine Bear, is Shia LaBeouf and Snoop Dogg are starring in a Ridley Scott movie about a 1960s prison rodeo. Okay. All right, all right. This sounds fun, actually. Doesn't it? Yeah. I want to be there. I absolutely want to be there.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

And um Snoop is exactly the guy to play with Shia LaBeouf, too, because Snoop is pretty laid back and Shia is a is a monster. So yeah. Yeah. He could stay pretty mellow even even with that guy, I think.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

Well, I love the fact that Snoop got together with Ridley Scott.

SPEAKER_02 55:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

Stuff you never thought you'd imagine saying exactly or hearing. Um so it's death row um music. That's Snoop's company.

SPEAKER_02 55:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:15

So right there, you know, Death Row. Um. Well what do we got here?

People Who Died And Goodbyes

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Oh, we got our uh our outgoing song.

SPEAKER_01 55:31

What is our outgoing song? I don't know it.

SPEAKER_02 55:35

People who died by the Jim Carroll band. It's actually one of my favorite songs. Well, if I had only known. I mean, we did spend some time talking about people who who died, and oh my god, there's even more. Bunch of people.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

Is this like we didn't start the fire punk version?

SPEAKER_02 55:59

This is a punk song, but no, this is uh every single person being mentioned here died horribly.

SPEAKER_01 56:06

That's what I'm saying. It's like it's like a list. It's like we didn't start the fire.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Yeah. Okay. From 1980.

SPEAKER_01 56:15

Well, listen, people, I hope you have a very uh zissin paysach, a fabulous sweet Passover, happy, happy Easter, a chaotic uh April 1st. Have a f oh yes, I hope you have a a a foolproof April 1st. And for all the people that died in this song, put a light on.

SPEAKER_00 57:08

Tony thought that his rage was just so good. But Hervis just gave Tony some bitch in the group. And Hervis said Tony can fly, but Tony couldn't fly, but Tony died, died, I got busted on a knockout rap. It beat the rap, I rat not survivors. I know it's dangerous, but it's job beats right. But the next day, we got off on the first day. Happy with the level which falls and flood on 46 reds and a ballot one. I think that the gimme of 14 years old, 65 when he died, you was a friend of mine. I mean both of them hit by the old Dodrillo on the night that he was wet. There were two more friends of mine. I missed them that you died. I'm gonna spell from the stellar two, shoot each other fruit, stop with training, and idiots and jugular fame, editing a misty more than all the others, always for the people, don't be able to die, don't be able to die to die, don't be able to die to die, don't die.