The Anne Levine Show with Michael Over There

Can't Stop Buying shirts

Anne Levine and Michael Hill-Levine

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Prednisone is supposed to help, but what happens when it flips every switch in your body at once? We’re talking candidly about corticosteroid side effects and the real day-to-day fallout: a heart that won’t settle down, sleep that disappears, cravings that feel like a possession, and the weird emotional intensity that makes you buy “just one more” thing you do not need. If you’ve ever felt like your meds changed your personality, you’ll recognize the tension between relief and regret.

From there we slide into food anxiety with receipts. We break down the viral “bread washing” test, why some wheat bread is basically white bread with coloring, and how vague terms like natural flavors can hide a lot of processing. We also run through a list of American foods and additives restricted or banned elsewhere, including chlorine-washed chicken, ractopamine-treated pork, potassium bromate in bread, and preservative-heavy snacks. It’s not a lecture, it’s a nudge toward defensive shopping and clearer labels.

Then we let ourselves be ridiculous because the internet demanded it: yes, scientists investigated whether mayonnaise can be a musical instrument. We use that as a palate cleanser before jumping back to real life, including weight gain frustration, shout-outs, visitors arriving, a cleaner who has fully checked out, and the kind of strange news that makes you grateful you can still laugh.

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Cold Open And Station Welcome

SPEAKER_03

Should be our worst problem.

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Where is my mind lost enough? This year to buy without a word. I had a plan to cross the world, but haven't left this island Hello.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the MV show. It's Tuesday, April 7th, 2026. And we are coming to you from W O M R 92.1 FM in Provincetown, Massachusetts. Joining me is Big Sexy. I'm just gonna call him Big Sexy over there. Pushing the knobs, twirling the tiles. Yeah. Michael over there.

SPEAKER_02

We're also listening to uh 91.3 FM. WFMR. Or lanes. And we're streaming worldwide at W O M R G.

SPEAKER_00

Perhaps you could tell us about our opening song here.

SPEAKER_02

It's called Spring. Which I thought would be appropriate. Today feels, you know, the last few days have been a little spring-like. A little. I like it. I'm a big fan of Ed Sheeran.

SPEAKER_00

I'm a fan of everyone, pretty much.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah. Yeah, I'm a fan a fan of creatives. I guess I could put it that way.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the non-creative singers don't do it for me so much.

SPEAKER_02

No, not me too. Me too.

SPEAKER_00

Oh. Well, I hope you all enjoyed a festive Easter weekend. Um he came back. I heard he came back again.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, right. Um then turned right around and left.

SPEAKER_00

He comes back every year, kind of like Casey and the Sunshine Band at the Melody tent. Every year. Um, you know, I don't I don't ever have to be concern myself with whether or not Casey and the Sunshine Band or the Yachtly crew are gonna be at the Melody tent.

SPEAKER_02

Right. No, I mean, yeah, uh up to this point it's it's happening every year. Which I'm grateful for, you know. I'm really grateful for Casey and the Sunshine Band.

SPEAKER_00

Well, why didn't you play them?

SPEAKER_02

Well, because I wasn't thinking about you hadn't mentioned them, so I wasn't thinking about them in particular. You know, I was thinking about spring, so I did Ed Sheeran and Spring. You know, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

I I guess so.

Casey And The Sunshine Band Hack

SPEAKER_02

But uh Casey and the Sunshine Band got me out of a lease in an apartment.

SPEAKER_00

Well, do you tell?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I I rented a downstairs apartment from uh from a lady and uh and it was fine, but it was a little too expensive, and I needed to get out of there, and it was I was I was really really kind of isolated. I was a young man, I didn't want to be out in the middle of nowhere. So I wanted to move, and she's like, nope, can't do it, not letting you go. And I'm like, oh, okay. So I so I borrowed some stereo equipment from a friend of mine, uh and I put the speakers against the uh the wall in the basement. Right, and I put a Casey in the Sunshine Band on album on to run continually and cranked it up and went to work.

SPEAKER_00

Well, there you go.

SPEAKER_02

And she came downstairs and she turned it off. And uh, which she wasn't allowed to do. She's not allowed to go into the apartment to and you know, unless she gave me notice ahead of time. So we had a big fuss about that, and finally she said, All right, I'll let you out of here. I did that for three days.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and so it worked.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it worked fine.

SPEAKER_00

Well, thank you, Casey.

SPEAKER_02

That's right.

SPEAKER_00

For altering the course of history.

SPEAKER_02

And then I uh then I moved into a place with two other dudes uh about a block away from Jerry Falwell's church.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, good. Much more that was much more suited to where you were at.

SPEAKER_02

It really was, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, really good. Three stoners down the street from Falwell.

SPEAKER_00

Congratulations.

SPEAKER_02

Well So thank you, Casey, and the Sunshine Band. That's what I'm saying.

Prednisone Side Effects Spiral

SPEAKER_00

So um, health-wise, I'm not doing too well. Uh we'll be talking to you about that at some point. Yeah. Not today, but I have been on prednisone to try to deal with or to try to address what it is assumed to be uh inflammation in my lungs. So uh the prednisone has had just horrendous consequences.

SPEAKER_01

It's had quite an effect, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_00

It came as no surprise to me. I've been on prednisone before, but not these quantities. So when I started this uh essentially trial to see if this would help me, my first instruction was to take 80 milligrams of the water.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, which is a which is a lot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, that night I ran into the bathroom, smashed my mirror, cutting up my hands, painted a portrait of the Mona Lisa in blood on the wall, and then ran out naked, climbed up in the apple tree, and did like a Mr. Peeper's and started throwing apples down and passing by rodents.

SPEAKER_02

I see, yes.

SPEAKER_00

Um, that's the effect it had on me.

SPEAKER_02

Right. And the next day Well, and you had a sandwich uh in your hand while you were doing it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, I had like a Renfare turkey leg in each hand and one between each toes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Because now I was a makes you hungry.

SPEAKER_00

I was a committed ethical vegetarian up until about four months ago and or maybe six months ago, and for reasons, yeah, Thanksgiving time, for reasons that again are complicated and and relate to health. Um, I had to start eating meat again, which I know there are people out there that are are gonna say, no, no, no, you don't need to do that, blah, blah, blah. Someday I'll explain to you why I actually did need to do that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's a whole other you don't want to hear. Trust me, you don't want to hear about that right now. Anyway, so in addition to like tearing my hair out strand by strand, right, yeah, and weaving a hammock for my voodoo doll.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I can't stop eating meat. And I mean meat, like now, I'm someone that Michael would not have thought of bringing me any meat product. No one would have thought of it. You know, people I I ate fish occasionally. Um, if we were going to have dinner with other people, like at someone's house. Um, I had my ways of, you know, eating around it, or really close friends knew, okay, we gotta have some like vegetable-heavy meal um to take care of and. Anyhow, now I'm like, forget the vegetables, forget the carbs, forget it all. Just bring me a stack of meat. I can't tell you how anathema that is to me, and also to Michael, who's like, you know, in the kitchen, uh we've got another roast on the way.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Tomorrow morning from Instacart. You know, I can't keep up with it. Anyhow, the 80 milligram thing was absolutely unsustainable.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

My resting heart rate was like 150. It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you well, you were at least in uh aerobic territory, so somewhere around 140. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it was terrible.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I didn't sleep a wink that first night. Blood sugar flying all over the place, everything just shaking the worst. So I went, the doctor immediately said, okay, go down to 20. And I did fine on 20, but I didn't notice any improvement. And so I brilliantly said, What if we try 40? Well, here's the thing with 40.

SPEAKER_02

40 gives you um all of the side effects and none of the benefits.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yes, pretty, pretty much. Yeah, it's like I'm uh well, there's two things. I can't stop eating meat, and I'm a lot of meat.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Also, or just anything. I ate a salad in bed last night at three o'clock in the morning.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Before we before we went to bed, it was prepared well ahead of time.

SPEAKER_00

I said to Michael, I know this sounds really weird, but could you put a salad on my nightstand? Yeah. Um, but that's hardly the only thing I ate last night.

SPEAKER_02

No, but and and at least it's not meat.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, yeah. I mean, I did have a carb freak out last night. Um, I'm I'm not proud, but hey, I'm saying it like it is.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, I mean, that's the kind of person you are, really.

The Striped Shirt Buying Compulsion

SPEAKER_00

But then there's this other thing that happened, which is that I and I said to Michael the other day, as I had just clicked buy B-U-Y on something.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

You can't stop buying shirts. And it's true. I can't.

SPEAKER_02

No, you are stuck in a thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm stuck in a thing, and I also know why. I'm a little more than a little obsessed by shirts, and and I want like a different shirt on every day.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And something happened to me sometime in the last year, which has made the shirt thing kind of hilarious. I can't any longer deal with wearing any prints unless it's something really. It's gotta be subtle and symmetrical, or it's gotta just flat out be stripes. And so pretty much every shirt I have now is striped, and different colors, different fabrics, different whatever, but a solid color for me doesn't work really well. At least I don't what do you think?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean I no.

SPEAKER_00

Right. So Michael means no. Yeah. So I I but then I'm not like gonna put on something that's like a floral print or what are they a heritage print, you know, like fake Hermes or real Hermes for that matter. I just want colors. I want more than one color on my shirt, and I want it to be straight lines. So anyway, you open my closet now, and it's like a freaking circus, backstage circus costume rack. It's just like this kaleidoscope of every color of stripes you can imagine. So um, and I am not stopping now, by the way. Okay, the other problem I'm having is graphic tees. And this is a huge problem that Michael has.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's kind of a problem, yeah, for me.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and I feel like I I don't feel comfortable, I don't feel myself like throwing on a graphic tee and going about my day if I'm leaving the house, you know, or people are I'm seeing people. I don't feel good in a graphic tee.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but I sure like these other shirts.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So there's another one on the way. I can't wait to see it. Um, and and then there's this whole thing now, and I've talked to some of my friends about this, where like spring and summer, all this everything is spring and summer now. All the ads, all the catalogs, right? So I'm already in my head, I'm like, now wait a second, this particular shirt that I'm wearing right now, which I've got to say is pretty cool, it's from anthropology, it's it's blue and white stripes um in the body, and then the same blue, but with some sort of mustard stripes on the sleeves. I love a mixed stripe. Yeah. Have I told you, fashionistas out there, that a mixed stripe is the be-all and end all?

SPEAKER_02

That's it, huh?

SPEAKER_00

And you gotta look for them. When you find a shirt or an anything that's got one stripe, say on the sleeves, and then a different thing in the body, or vice versa, or maybe sometimes you can find one where there's half that's one stripe, and then the other half is a subtle play on that. Okay, yeah. Uh, that to me is the ultimate. That's what I'm looking for. So that's how I end up in these anthropology shirts, because you put in mixed stripe, and they're like, Yeah, we got that, we got something for you. Just hand over the credit card. Yeah. You're all you're all set. Oh my god. Um so many things, so many things to discuss with you. Now, speaking of shirts, yeah, I can't stop buying them. Right. I can't stop buying them for myself or for Michael because you know, that's how I do. And I there's a shirt I bought for Michael. When was it, Michael?

SPEAKER_02

Uh I don't know. What shirt are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00

Your favorite shirt, your Thomas Pink.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, it's been several years ago.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's gotta be more like 10.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, about 10 years ago, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And you were a larger size.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

And the shirt does not fit you anymore.

SPEAKER_02

Nope.

SPEAKER_00

And I have been looking everywhere to find the shirt. It's a Thomas Pink German Street. It was a limited collection, really unusual. Um Thomas Pink makes the most incredible shirts.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, and I'm not exactly certain why I splurged on this particular shirt and ordered it from you, for you from London. Or it may have been from there, might have been a store like Mr. What the heck is the name of that store in LA? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Mr. Close.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's something really stupid. It's like Mr. Dapper or something. Oh, okay. Yeah. At any rate, um, I I found it. I was like, oh my gosh, I think Michael would love this, and lo and behold, it turned out to be your favorite shirt. And since you told me, I don't know when, sometime in the last year, that it's too big for you and you're really sad about it because it was your favorite shirt.

SPEAKER_02

I have been You've been looking, I had no idea you were on the hunt.

SPEAKER_00

The hunt, you could call it the hunt. I have like 300 different alerts that I get.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because there are so many different ways of describing this shirt.

SPEAKER_02

Right, yeah, I got you.

SPEAKER_00

Um and so I'm constantly getting, we found your on eBay, on Vestair, on Poshmark, yeah, on all these different sites. I'm I'm looking at all of Europe. Um trying to find one. I found one other one, but it was also a double X, uh, which is the size you have that's way too big. Yeah. So but at least I knew it exists because I was starting to feel a little cuckoo. Anyhow.

SPEAKER_02

Um shirts. Shirts, yeah. Buy them or not, you know. I mean, you you you you you might you might be addicted.

SPEAKER_00

We need to get that, we need to get the sound clip from the great Gadsby, the uh the original, the Robert Redford, and Mia Farrow, who plays Daisy, comes in and opens his armoire or his chest. I I don't remember exactly what if it was a drawer, and she pulls out all the shirts, and she's sort of on the bed with all the shirts and saying, Oh, all the shirts, all the shirts. Do you have any idea what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_02

No, I mean I I'm gonna guess it's about all the shirts.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Well, you are one live wire today, I gotta say.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, whoo, good to know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, big big sexy and in quiet mode.

Fake Wheat Bread And Food Additives

SPEAKER_00

Um so there's stuff that's been going on with food that I've been reading about. And it's scary. Uh some of it's funny, some most of it's just scary. Creepy American weird.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I've got I've got a food thing for you too, but we'll go with it. No, we'll do yours first because you're talking about scary foods, and I'm not. Well, I mean, maybe not.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe not.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_02

I know. I know, but you it will become clear.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so anyhow. All right, there's a brand called Nature's Own Wheat Bread. It's really common.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I've I've seen it around. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's a big loaf of what looks to be sliced wheat bread.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so. Turns out that you do this bread washing test with it.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

I've seen it done a million times now. Really? It's colored bread? Exactly. And you take a slice of it, you hold it. Oh man. You hold it under some water, squeeze it out, do it again, turns white.

SPEAKER_02

No way. Turns white. That is disgusting.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Uh I think that.

SPEAKER_02

That is so wrong.

SPEAKER_00

And so.

SPEAKER_02

But it does explain why you can look at the labels on so-called wheat bread in the store, and nutritionally it's no different from the white bread.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and in some cases it's worse because they use this caramel coloring.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man, that's which has all kinds of. The other thing I learned is that if something says natural flavors, bag it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it does not mean it's the flavor of the thing you're you're looking at for one.

SPEAKER_00

I saw a guy like doing a whole yogurt thing, uh-huh. Like in a bodega, and just taking yogurt off the shelf and saying, okay, so here's your Yo play. And it's got 25 milligrams of sugar in this little Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Insane. And it weighs 30 milligrams, by the way.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And it's got this, that, the other, all this stuff, stabilizers, chemicals. And he finally gets to Siggy's yogurt.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. The uh is that Icelandic or something?

SPEAKER_00

Something like that. Two grams of sugar.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You know, like reasonable.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We don't all have to be jacked up on sugar all the time. Apparently. But I mean, eating sugar free in quotes is pretty bad for us for the most part.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean, your our brains run on glucose.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

So but we are artificially sugar free and and live. You know, completely.

SPEAKER_00

However Well, that's not. We're talking about refined, I'm talking about refined cane sugar and corn syrup. All this awful stuff that's you can absolutely live without any of that.

SPEAKER_02

You sure can.

SPEAKER_00

Uh so now there are 60 well let me let me go back here a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

There are a lot of American foods that are banned or restricted all over the world.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_00

One, and uh this list freaks me out because I eat some of this stuff. Chlorine washed chicken.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that sounds awful.

SPEAKER_00

Has been banned in the EU since 1996. Is that what we are we getting bleached chicken? Those rotisserie chickens. Yeah. They're chlorine washed. Yep, and it's used to mask poor farming conditions. So, I mean, for every reason, that one's gotta go.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I agree. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Then there's ractopamine treated pork.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Over 160 countries, including China and Russia, banned pork from our pigs.

SPEAKER_02

Right, because we're jacking them up to make them uh bigger and have less fat.

SPEAKER_00

It's a muscle growth additive.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that is so messed up.

SPEAKER_00

Mountain dew.

SPEAKER_02

Mountain dew, yeah. Yes. Yeah, oh my god. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Contains bromited vegetable oil, BVO, which is a flame retardant. Banned in Japan and the EU.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

Um, a lot of our bread, potassium bromate bread and buns used in many U.S. breads. It's an additive link to cancer, banned in the EU, Canada, and China. Insane. Hormone beef milk. Um, so any any milk like dairy, you know, from cat cows um treated with growth hormones.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then there are the preservative heavy snacks.

SPEAKER_02

Uh well, that's all of them. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

Well, products with BHA.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, BHA, BHT.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so for instance, Red 40 and Twankies, uh-huh. Restricted and banned in several European nations. And then here's one that you might find to be a bit of a shocker. Ritz crackers are sold with different formulations in Europe because the ones we eat here have too much hydrogenated oil.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

So what the heck?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. And well, you you know what? Uh, if if you go to a subway uh store in the UK, right, they cannot call their bread bread. Yeah, I know. It has too much sugar. So it has to be classified as cake in the UK.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I have a friend who um this is about a year ago, who went to Italy for a month to work. And he came back and and was sending posts about, oh, look at this food, look at this bowl of pasto, look at this cannoli, look at just all these like food porn pecs all over social media, comes back, gets on the scale, and he lost 10 pounds.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my goodness, isn't that something?

SPEAKER_00

And I'm and in France, oh no, in Italy.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, you get rid of a bunch of this garbage, you can eat whatever the heck you want. Yeah, you just have to make better choices. And listening, listen to me lecturing, I'm lecturing myself, yeah, essentially, because what I really want right now is meat or an entire rotisserie chicken.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, oh God, Michael, I have another sad thing about this to tell you.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00

Now, I have to confirm this one. I'm not a hundred percent certain. I only saw one little AI thing about this.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But prepared salads and salad kits.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They say that those that the the greens in those are chlorine soaked to keep them um having a more stable shelf life. Um, basically, folks, I know you all know this already, but you're on your own in this country. You've got to do defensive shopping, defensive eating.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So, Michael, what were you gonna tell us about food?

Can Mayonnaise Count As Music

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Um, about twenty-five years ago, a question was asked on the uh on the cartoon SpongeBob SquarePants. Is mayonnaise or can mayonnaise be a musical instrument?

SPEAKER_00

Could could it be or is it?

SPEAKER_02

I what exactly that's the question. Patrick Starr asked this question. Okay. Right? Well, the question has been answered. Okay. Uh let's see, Dr. Rachel Durkin, head of global music technologies at Northumbria University, and her team of experts decided to see if scientifically mayonnaise could be considered an instrument.

SPEAKER_00

All right.

SPEAKER_02

And, you know, it's been an internet meme ever since. Did not. You know, Patrick said something about that. So to come right out with it, uh, yeah, mayonnaise can function as an instrument and in particular a quite versatile instrument. Um, they found out that there are, you know, different ways of of like tapping on the like a jar of mayonnaise or whatever, you get different frequencies.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, just stop right there. Okay. Yes. Okay, you know, remember we discussed last week that it's a come to Jesus time for you. Now, Jesus was just here.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, I'm not the people at this at this university who decided to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_00

You're the person, you're the person repeating it all and saying how fabulous, fascinating, fun this is.

SPEAKER_02

Well, hey, it's it can be technically a musical instrument.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. What okay, let me ask you a different question. What cannot technically be considered a musical instrument?

SPEAKER_02

That is a very good question. I don't know. We would have to ask these guys in Newcastle about that.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not asking these guys anything. I think they're losers. I think they just hate mayonnaise. Or maybe they're obsessed by mayonnaise and they want to have as much of it around as possible.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but the fact that you have glommed onto the story kills me. It's a good story. Because except it's a good story, except I think it needs to be expanded to point out that truly anything can be a musical instrument.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean, there's a lot more experimentation that has to go on to determine that, I would think. Why?

SPEAKER_00

Well, because experimentation.

SPEAKER_02

You would have to start using everything as a musical instrument to see if it could be.

SPEAKER_00

There's no question. One of my favorite things is about um Adele. Rumor has it, and there's this deep kick drum that starts in the beginning of that. That's what it sounds like.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

It's actually a recording of Adele kicking a stair in anger with her foot.

SPEAKER_02

I see.

SPEAKER_00

So, you know, if Adele's shoe can be an instrument, I think we can anything can be an instrument.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you know, that's a that's an interesting question right there. Is it Adele's shoe that is the instrument? Or what's it? Or the stair. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, let's say, you know, is it the drumstick or the drum?

SPEAKER_02

Ah, well, that is a very good question.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, it it they go hand in hand.

SPEAKER_02

I think it is the drum, actually.

SPEAKER_00

But uh Well, what if you use brushes? Well, yeah, it's still totally different sound.

SPEAKER_02

Gonna sound different because you're using something different on the same instrument.

SPEAKER_00

God in Himmel, save me from this perseverating. Ugh.

SPEAKER_02

Well, hey, you know, it's about food.

SPEAKER_00

Jesus might still be around. You know, he just he just he just rose again.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but right like three days later he's gone, right?

SPEAKER_00

But it it it hasn't been three days.

SPEAKER_02

So Well, isn't today the third day?

SPEAKER_00

No. Sunday, Monday, Sunday to Monday, one, no, this is the second day. So it probably is still around. You have one day to get yourself straight with Jesus. Okay? One day. Uh-huh. And I I'm gonna recommend that as soon as possible, as soon as we get off the air, you begin a midnight vigil or a 1 a.m. vigil, it'll be. Um, and and work on some of these issues. Um I'm just saying, it's just a thought, honey.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I don't know nothing.

SPEAKER_02

I know I don't know. Also, no, nothing.

SPEAKER_00

I

Weight Gain And Medication Frustration

SPEAKER_00

know that I have gained a solid 10 pounds on one month of prednisone, and I've gotta say, I'm pretty angry about it.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

It just doesn't seem fair um to be uh, you know, having a health crises and your medicine is making you sicker. Now, before everyone writes to me and tells me uh uh, you know, their story, I know, I know, I know. I've been through this a million times.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Where the cure is worse than the disease. But gosh, this is frustrating.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I want these 10 pounds off. I keep thinking if I just stop taking the prognosis, these pounds are gonna fall off magically. Yeah, that's that's not what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02

It's not how that works, really.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, and I know that the doctor that I'm going to on Thursday is gonna kick my butt about this. Um, and probably put me on some other horrible drug to I never mind.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um,

Birthdays, Visitors, And Appointment Chaos

SPEAKER_00

I have neglected to do some shout-outs.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, yeah, yeah. Shout-outs. Oh yeah. You kind of we have kind of forgotten somebody, didn't you?

SPEAKER_00

And it's not not for not having thought about it, just for being a bit distracted to say the least.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But Artemis Buffington. Happy birthday. Yeah. We love you so much. We we truly do. Oh, good. That's really good. Yeah, Michael gave you some applause right on. Well deserved, well-earned. Um, and another one that I'm gonna mention that's coming up, but I don't want to forget it, is Jose Lynn. Oh, yeah. Who thank you, Michael. That's that's so uh organic. Yeah, he he might have some um news to share with us. We might be breaking some news about Jose Lynnwolf.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay, all right. That'd be good. Yeah. I've been wondering what's going on with that guy.

SPEAKER_00

Well, get on the uh the old text machine there and see what you can find.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I'm gonna find out something.

SPEAKER_00

Uh what else was I gonna say?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Oh god, this week. Okay. A lot of you enjoyed hearing John Baker, Silver Lake, on the show.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Was it it was the week before last. Well, or two weeks ago. John Baker, Silver Lake is on his way back to town.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's gonna be uh gonna be well back here coming up here.

SPEAKER_00

And as he refers to himself, I'm a publicity whore. Those are his words.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, right. And nobody be uh, you know, don't get the lawyers involved or anything. We didn't say that. Those are his words.

SPEAKER_00

Far be it from me to deny him a microphone at my table.

SPEAKER_02

I guess that's true.

SPEAKER_00

Uh so he and his partner are coming back for an extended visit to help us do a bunch of stuff in the house. And also one of my best oldest friends from who lives in England now is coming. Are they all getting here Thursday?

SPEAKER_02

Uh maybe.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, wait, Wednesday eighth.

SPEAKER_02

That's Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh. He's getting here Wednesday. Okay, yeah, and everybody else they're getting here Thursday, and then you and I have nine doctors' appointments on Thursday.

SPEAKER_02

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And that's not really much of an exaggeration. No, you've got a surgeon, you've got a dentist, I've got a cardiologist, I've got a visiting nurse.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Uh we got a it is a bunch of stuff, so we've got so many people.

SPEAKER_00

Does anyone

The Cleaner Who Barely Cleans

SPEAKER_00

out there know anyone who cleans just a decent person? Yeah, like in the dentist, uh, you know, well, anywhere in Cape Cod.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Well, uh, yeah, but not like you know, so we have this quote cleaner, and uh these are big quotes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they're doing a lot of lifting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Uh she has gone from being a fantastic cleaner to however many years later, she walks in, she drags a swiffer around, the same two places every time she comes in, she runs the vacuum, she rolls her eyes, and she leaves. And that is so accurate.

SPEAKER_02

That's the funniest part. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And Michael and I can count on the fact. So she's supposed to come here twice a week for short visits because we have a lot of turnover with guests and visitors and so on. So what I generally have her do is she'll she'll come in and I say, can you please, you know, flip that room, change the sheets, change the shower, the the towels, and you know, just give a go-round with the Swiffer in the vacuum um in some other section of the house.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, but Michael and I know we can count, she can be counted on, not for much, but for this, that at least two or three times a month we are going to get a text from her on the day, some usually maybe two hours from when we're expecting her to walk in. Yeah, yeah, that's that one of two things has happened. Either something's gone bonkers with her brand new Volvo, or her dog's foot hurts.

SPEAKER_02

Right, it's gonna be something dog or car related. Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so sure enough, I was thinking this morning, I woke up, okay, good, she's coming. She can take care of the room upstairs because Peter will be getting here on Wednesday, right? And then John and Sue on Thursday. And I want her in here before any of those people get here. And she says, I I can't come today. My dog was limping last night and now he won't stand up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Now this happens to her dog all the time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, he's uh he's delicate. He's uh he's a very delicate uh golden.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she's a delicate golden.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think that's I think that's more of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I mean, here's the thing is she now has moved in with her boyfriend's family. So she's got her boyfriend and his parents in some big ass McMansion in Watertown, but nobody to the mother takes the dog to the dog park every week. She now drives to the Cape, she's got a house in Falmouth, she's pretty much just abandoned it. She drives to the Cape now to like see a couple clients, and it's very begrudging. Yeah, very begrudging. Yeah, so and she's checked out. So if anyone else, you know, get in touch with us, levineradio at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_02

You can do that.

SPEAKER_00

Anxious for a cleaner. And just someone decent, just a good person who d does their job.

SPEAKER_02

Um I have one more story for uh Oh, tell me. Yeah. Um I don't think I mean we're we got 15 minutes left, I guess, or something like that. But uh here's a all right, this is a good

Stuffed Turnip Dropped From Near Space

SPEAKER_02

one. Not food related, alright? Okay, okay. A company, a British tech company, has decided they wanted to go for a world record of some kind, and they did something very odd. They took uh a stuffed animal. Emmy. A nine-ounce yellow green creature that looks kind of like a like a turnip with an eye patch.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

I guess. And they took it up into the sky over Kingston, New York.

SPEAKER_00

Well, okay, now just wait a second. They took it up into the sky. What does that mean? I will tell you in a moment.

SPEAKER_02

All right. One thousand one hundred and six one hundred and sixteen thousand four hundred and nineteen feet over Kingston, New York via a high-altitude balloon. Okay. And then the balloon popped.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02

And they waited to see what would happen to the turnip. With toy as she fell. Uh-huh. Who? You're Emmy, E M-Y is the.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, and it's and we're giving a gender assignment now. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I don't know if it's a guy or a girl, but uh, yeah, I'm whatever it is. It's well, no, it does say her return trip here. Okay. Anyway. Some observers thought, okay, she's gonna get burned up on the way back in, because that's what happens when you re-enter the atmosphere.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but what were what are we, a thousand feet?

SPEAKER_02

No, a hundred and sixteen thousand, almost a hundred and seventeen thousand feet.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02

This is way up there. And it she will have to come back through the atmosphere.

SPEAKER_00

Now, this thing is a nine-ounce stuff. A nine-ounce stuffed toy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But she didn't incinerate what happened because she freeze. The density of the thing is low. The speed wasn't fast. And so she fell right on down and right on through, and then hit the ground and kind of, you know, bounced off.

SPEAKER_00

So I have a couple questions. Let's start with this. This is interesting to us why.

SPEAKER_02

Uh because it's something people did.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, see, every day the eight and a half billion of us people on this planet do stuff. I don't find the vast majority of it interesting.

SPEAKER_02

This I I know obviously this is a uh a publicity stunt. For what? For a company named Raspberry Circle, which uh uh originally developed Emmy as an AI compan companion. What does that mean? There's a lot of those online. There, you know, uh chat bots that you can talk to.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I see what you're saying. For humans.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

So more weddings in the future.

SPEAKER_02

I guess, yeah, or something. I I don't know. Yeah, if you want to marry a turnip. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And there are there are those.

SPEAKER_02

But uh but that's yeah, that's originally where the character came from. So I'm and so they made a stuffed animal and dropped it from space. Well. And it landed just fine.

SPEAKER_00

There are, you know, uh speaking of interesting things people are doing. Uh-huh. Um, how about the Artemis?

SPEAKER_02

Uh, we're going to the moon again.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, if you wanted to talk about interesting things going on in space, I would think that might have been at the top of your list. I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, that kind of makes sense, but you know, there's someone dropping a stuffed turnip with an eye patch. Yeah. That's a thing.

SPEAKER_00

I I got a I got a Facebook message from someone. It's a meme. It says, friends come and go like waves of the ocean, but the true ones stick like an octopus on your face. Well, kind of. Yeah, I think that's probably true. Well, I don't know how to take that. I'm not it and it's not from someone that I I know that well. I mean, we like brushed past each other in college several times a million years ago. Um, and suddenly I got this.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I just don't quite get it. I I don't quite understand what to make of it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you know, the real friends hang on. That's all.

SPEAKER_00

Like an octopus on your face.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. You can't get them off.

SPEAKER_00

Can't get around it. Can't go through. How did that go? Going on a bear hunt.

SPEAKER_02

Uh can't go over it, can't go under it, can't go around it.

SPEAKER_00

Gotta go through it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. Those were the days when you had songs like that. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Those are very very song-like. Hey, here's another fun thing, all right?

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

Disney Robot Chaos And Shirt Lore

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I can't wait.

SPEAKER_02

Disney Tokyo. Who? Disney. Oh. Disney Tokyo. They've got a um when you go you know wandering through Disneyland, there's all kinds of things happening uh around you on the ground, but there are also things happening up in the buildings. Uh-huh. And quite often you'll look in a window and you'll see a character peeking out of it or something. Uh-huh. Usually these are robots as a punzel. Yes. And there was a Rapunzel.

SPEAKER_00

Are you kidding?

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No.

SPEAKER_00

I guess that.

SPEAKER_02

Not even kidding, yeah. In uh Rapunzel's Forest. I guess something in Tokyo's uh Disney Sea amusement park. She's leaning out a window, she's singing a song, and two ravens come up and start pulling out all of her hair. There's video of it. It is absolutely hilarious. They're tearing the hair right out of her.

SPEAKER_00

Well, see, I think they're on prednisone.

SPEAKER_02

It's quite it's quite possible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's what it sounds like to me.

SPEAKER_02

You know what? I think you figured it all out.

SPEAKER_00

I think I did. I think I figured out the whole thing. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02

You know what?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

I've been telling you, we have to talk to people about the the show Pleurus.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Um, and because we're gonna re-watch it, I think Michael. Now I'm thinking that prednisone has something to do with it. With what? With the whole with with that whole thing, with pleuribus. It's prednisone based. What is the whole premise of pleuribus?

SPEAKER_00

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_02

It's got people doing all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it sure does.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Eating meat. Eating meat. Like talking to people, buying shirts, buying shirts and stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, that's crazy. Out of control shirt buying. Absolutely nuts. Yeah, we can't. We gotta do something about that.

SPEAKER_00

I know. Uh I Silver, speaking of shirts and buying shirts, Silver Lake. Okay. This is something I so relate to. He passed by. Um, for those of you who know or don't know, J Press is a major shirt maker. Well, clothing maker, but major high quality. Um, the label's been around forever, high standards. You can count on a J Press garment.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. I don't know about them, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's good because I'm not even gonna tell you the price of a J Press shirt.

SPEAKER_02

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_00

At any rate, uh he passed by at some point. There was this J Press shirt that he fell in love with. It was wide stripes, vertical stripes. Now, when I say wide, I don't mean like super wide, but wider than your classic shirt. No, yeah, no, and pink and white.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um a nice sort of soft pink. He has been chasing that shirt for years. Uh-huh. Now, here's the problem. I am now chasing that shirt.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, that that would be the problem.

SPEAKER_00

Because of course I'm determined. Aha! I found it.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

You know, that that will be me.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Or he'll get here on Thursday and surprise it'll be on his bed or whatever.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Um, which won't be made because of the freaking cleaner. But anyway, um the I passed by a coach in 1985, I think it was.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

That has haunted me to this day.

SPEAKER_02

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

And I've been thinking since I've been parting up, parting with a lot of stuff, like divvying up Oh, what what what is this?

SPEAKER_02

This would be the the song ending the show.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm aware, but which song?

SPEAKER_02

It's called Good Dogs and Sad Songs.

SPEAKER_00

Aw, who does this song?

SPEAKER_02

Uh Ian Munsik is his name.

SPEAKER_00

Well, this is certainly sweet. Uh what was I saying?

SPEAKER_02

You're talking about shirts.

SPEAKER_00

I know, but specifically, do you have any recall?

SPEAKER_02

Uh no, because I was over here pushing some buttons. Total no recall is the name of this film.

SPEAKER_00

Alright. Uh,

Closing Thanks And Donation Ask

SPEAKER_00

this brings us to the end of the Anne Levine Show for April 7th.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

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