Is This How It Ends?
Is This How It Ends?
The Election Edition - Echoes of 2016
In this reflective and raw episode, hosts Nele and Soph grapple with the shocking return of Donald Trump as president, sharing a visceral mix of exhaustion, frustration, and uncertainty. They delve into the emotions stirred by his re-election, discussing the struggle for progress, the polarization of the country, and the persistent social issues that echo through American history.
Nele and Soph openly question the motivations of voters, examine the dynamics of hate and division that fuel political outcomes, and lament the barriers women—especially women of color—face in seeking leadership roles. With moments of humor woven through their honest dialogue, they bring listeners a sobering reminder of the work yet to be done and the resilience needed to navigate an uncertain future. This episode, while heavy, calls listeners to stay engaged, emphasizing that even in the face of setbacks, change is always possible.
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Hey y'all, and welcome to our podcast. This is how it ends. I'm Nels, I'm Soph, and we're here to talk about everything from politics to conspiracy theories, to pop culture. It's all here, girl talk, with a twist that you don't want to miss. So, unfortunately, we got to get into it because, y'all, we got a new president-elect. Well, not new, yeah, donald Trump is our 47th president.
Soph:I was not. You know what. How are you feeling about that, Janelle? He's going to sip on your water. You know what? How are you?
Nele:feeling about that? Janelle, my first girl. I just want to say that I only got two hours of sleep. I'm drinking wine. Might have smoked a little something.
Nele:So, hopefully the words that come out of my mouth make sense. I really thought that she was going to win. Honestly, I really did, but I should have known. It's the same feeling I got watching Hillary, where I was like, all right, I'm going to close my eyes and in the morning I'm going to hope for something better. The whole time just hoping there'd be a different outcome. Time just hoping there'd be a different outcome and there wasn't. Just basically, when he took Pennsylvania, I was like it's a wrap just it's a wrap.
Soph:yeah, I um part of me knew that. Like deep in my heart, I was like I don't think so, because remember how we were leading into his presidency and then, when he won and how it was during his presidency, it was like a lot of hate and all of these people came out of the woodworks. When you think about everything that went down in 2020, all of that has intensified. It hasn't gotten better, it's gotten worse. I didn't watch anything, so I didn't scroll social media. I just stayed off of everything.
Soph:So, you were punking out.
Nele:So if you were punking, out. You supposed to hang in there we are battle buddies in this and you were like absolutely not.
Soph:I know I punked out. I could not go through what happened in 2016. Like, I don't think my heart could have taken it, so I had some Jameson and ginger around five o'clock. By nine o'clock I was in bed. When you text me, I did text you, I was like this ain't good, this ain't good.
Soph:And then I just knew, and then Fabian was checking my husband was checking his. I could see him around 4 a 4am because I couldn't really sleep. But around 4am I saw him like like he was on his phone and he was, and it was for a minute because I couldn't really sleep either. I was like, yeah, he's probably. He probably went to bed thinking it's going to be a better outcome.
Nele:He tried, but I mean by that time. I don't know what time it was exactly. Again, I have no concept right now, but there was a time where he was already like at 266. She might have been at like 210 at the time, but either when they were waiting for like maybe four or five of the swing states. However, he only needed four to get to 270., like that's how you knew it was a wrap and it just wasn't even like it was. It was close, but it was like it shouldn't have been this close. I'm trying to understand.
Soph:I'm surprised it wasn't closer, at least for her to be closer we don't come through for. Black women. We don't come through for Black women.
Nele:We don't come through for women if Hillary couldn't get it.
Soph:That's my thing too, If Hillary can't get it she cares Kamala.
Nele:What she represented was just too much at the time. Like it's a woman of color who doesn't have biological children, like it's just who's attractive because, you know, with women I definitely think more women get more depending on how attractive you are.
Nele:You get more smoke and jezebels and all the stuff comes flying out of people's mouths, you know whatever. But um, yeah, I just felt like it was just too. And then tim waltz's ass like oh, you know, it was just too much, even though kamala tends to lead more, like she's actually more of a centrist and really like leftist, like that she is yeah, people said she's, you know they're like she wasn't leftist enough, she wasn't centrist enough, like it's like she had to be everything to everyone and she can't like democrats.
Soph:Republicans are a monolith right. They will, they will vote as a block. Democrats are not. You know, like we do have the centrists, we do have the um the leftists, like we have the progressives, you know, like she can't be all things to everyone and I think that's the problem that.
Nele:That is the problem.
Soph:But now you have agent orange in office.
Nele:Here's the thing. First of all, you know who voted. I could be wrong, but you know who was out there just getting their vote on. Maybe I should say an Espanol, because definitely the Latino men.
Soph:They always vote Republican the.
Nele:Latino men, but they showed out a little bit more. And then also melanin deficient women. I don't want to hear anything. I don't want to hear anything.
Soph:They didn't vote for Clinton, they were not about to vote for Harris for Harris.
Nele:But here's the here's. I'm trying to understand. Um, our Latinx followers, please help us out. I'm trying to understand. I'm trying to understand, like, how do you think this is going to help you? I know there's an aspiration to melanin deficiency, but then there's actual reality. Like some of y'all, some of some of your primos and primas, tios and tias might end up being like they're already talking about it. They're already talking about having people like deported. You know just, it might be some of your familia getting the boots?
Nele:I don't understand he wanted to build a wall against, you know, for mexicans, mexicans were like hell. No, that was my mexican accent. They were like hell. No, we're not paying for this wall, sir. So he doesn't have a great track record with immigrants.
Soph:I'm just very confused by this, two things they say about, about that. So, especially when it comes to Florida and the Florida Cubans, they painted Harris as like this communist right, like she's going to redistribute all the wealth, which she can't do. That and she's not. So they want nothing to do with that because they fled a country that was like that, which, whatever. And the other thing is, a lot of them are like heavy Catholics. So that abortion thing, you know that abortion thing, they were stuck on that. They don't care about nothing else. Religion first. They probably sin their asses off in every aspect of their life, but when it comes to getting into women's business, they care very deeply about that. They care very deeply about that abortion issue.
Nele:Yes, I'm trying to understand the compartmentalization. You know where it's, just like, all right, this is an important issue when, first of all, I mean, people are having sex outside a wedlock, so that's not even in within, like. Are you talking about that?
Soph:I just don't understand we're getting divorced like we're getting divorced.
Nele:We're not getting married, so now are you just encouraging women to be single mothers? I'm just y'all just saying, hey, it's a life is not really a argument for me, because the life that we have here on this earth we don't take care of how many kids need to be adopted. The system needs to be overall overhauled just so that is conducive to having families. Like people are stressed out. People are stressed out. People are working. You do all this work and you don't have enough time to spend with your kids because you have to go work a job so you can pay for the daycare to afford your kids that you can't even see. It's just. I'm just not understanding how people think they're going to be removed from this under the cloak of whiteness. I don't understand.
Soph:When it comes to they're prolife, just when it comes to the unborn baby inside the mother. I mean, I can respect that you're pro-life it's still none of your business, but I can. You can say you're pro-life, but in every other aspect they're not right. Children are living below the poverty means and we don't believe in a safety net that could help them with that right. There are kids being turned away because they don't have lunch money or they've reached, or they've reached, like a certain deficit in their lunch balance, so now they can't get meals.
Soph:And there are a lot of these red States like they don't care, they're not going to zero that out. That's your problem. Your kid is starving, that's your problem, right. But when it's in my, when it's my tummy, when it's in my stomach, that's that's somehow. That's not my problem, that that that becomes your problem, that you gotta get in my business. So I never understood the whole whole life, like you know. But we don't. They don't even care about people you don't want to hear there's no way that you can be a proponent of prop.
Nele:There's no way that you can be a proponent of prop 2025 and want to talk about the kids. You want to shut down everything that the kids benefit from the public department of education, um, federal jobs, so social service jobs as well. These are things that kids actually need and you want to shut that down.
Soph:How can you have a president that's never grocery shopped? There's a weird disconnect.
Nele:The repubs are better at branding than Democrats are.
Soph:But guess what? Hate, though Hate. I think, when it comes to hate, that emotion, it's better at grasping people because their branding was hate. You know their branding was hate, whereas you know harris was like I want to bring everyone together. We don't, yeah, we don't want to bring everyone together her being a libra.
Nele:Look at her just trying to, you know she was.
Soph:She had a vision of you know harmony, and we're like that's the matrix right like the. The original matrix was like a paradise but humans hated it. Yeah, like this like struggle fest of a society people thrive off of chaos.
Nele:Some, some people. There needs to be those below in order for them to feel okay. It's not enough just to be okay, right. You have to make sure that the people below know that they are below that's what america stands on right.
Soph:This is a country built on slavery.
Nele:Yeah, so they love feeling like they're superior to someone else, they still ain't getting no reparations from and I mean other groups, are getting reparations, other groups get reparations, but when it comes to black people it's all so debatable when we have countless records of that. I can calculate I'm bad at, but I'll calculate the numbers to let you know how much you owe us.
Soph:Yeah, this was really disappointing yeah this was tough.
Nele:I mean just kind of lets you know that America is just not ready, and particularly you know, talking about Trump, where how he performed in his, in his first term, um, but he inherited a decent state right, they usually do, republicans usually do yes you can. Oh, the economy was so great when, when, worked it out so that it would be great, and then you messed it up again. So I just, I don't know y'all. It doesn't really feel real to me what has happened.
Soph:No, it doesn't. I don't feel as bad as in 2016 because part of me was kind of like yeah yeah, a lot of us are just dated. This country is really painful. But they did say a lot of people, a lot of Democrats, stayed home, which to me that goes back to like well, you know she did not mention this, so I'm just not going to vote. I'm going to vote for, like, cornel West, who was, like always, on the ballot.
Nele:Like Cornel West you know, my thing is we don't see the bigger picture ahead, where it's just like this man can cannot be a president. He cannot be the president again. Well, it's happening now, but even how they did this before, I felt like they prolonged Biden stepping down too long, so whoever was going to come into their place would only have a few months to campaign, as opposed to how long the Republicans have had it. So that's that, um, also, secondly, they didn't have a chance because of such short notice, didn't have a chance for a primary for them to actually choose. Honestly, I felt if they, the dems, fought with another melon deficient man, I definitely think that things would be totally different.
Soph:It would have been.
Nele:It was just too much, too soon and I think we definitely were banking on. You know, we need change and we can't have this man back in the White House for cognitive reasons for just and that overruled everything.
Nele:You just can't trust in people having common sense. I want a president that can form coherent sentences. Last night, when Trump did I don't know if it was an acceptance speech, but basically they knew they had this in the bag and he spent a good amount of time just talking about Elon Musk and his rocket, something that he sent in outer space. I know we've spoken about that. He spoke about that.
Soph:I'm just trying to make sense of it all. I, he's not. First of all, this man. If he it's similar to biden right, will he make it the four years? That's number one, number two like he's not really, he's not invested in this, he just wanted to win. Like he was not and what it means, even there was no joy, he was just like.
Nele:He was like where's my metamuse fool in my blanket? He just wanted to chill out, honestly. I mean, he wants to be out of jail. Yeah, it's the beacon of jail. So sorry, let me cut you off. Speaking of jail, do you think, now that Trump is the president you heard it first, everyone, you heard it first here at this Is this how it Ends podcast? I believe he's going to pardon Diddy and then it's going to be two devils out here. I believe it.
Soph:Does he even know who Diddy is? Oh no, they partied together.
Nele:Yes, I'm sure they crossed paths before. They definitely have.
Soph:They partied together. They partied together.
Nele:Yes, I'm sure he's on the Epstein roster.
Soph:Well, he can't pardon Diddy until he's on his way out, though. I think that's how the pardons work. Or you could pardon someone at any time? Oh, I don't know. I thought you can do it anytime. Oh, maybe you can. I thought it's like. Usually you hear of pardons like when people are like heading out the door. No, no, he's supposed to be sentenced, though, like what's going to happen? Like are they really going to sentence him? He?
Nele:has? I mean Trump, yeah, or did he? Because there's just so many Trump? I don't think. I think he only wanted to be president so that none of this stuff would stick. He's already been impeached twice. He's a felon. I just no one can tell me country could be both for someone like there's no, there's no, there is no way anyone with a hint of brown in them could get away with any of this, with any of this, and it just goes to show you at the end of the day, like this is who's on top. The rules don't apply to us no, we're just gonna.
Soph:It's four years. You know a lot can happen in four years, but happen in four years, so just gotta keep trudging. People should vote in local elections. Vote in your local elections, you know, don't you gotta? You gotta come out and vote like people. Yes, they said people did not show up for harris, you know, and sorry, I I'm.
Nele:I said she's a black woman yeah, because she's a black woman and you can't tell me otherwise. Yeah, like, how do I put this? There's just a certain we can only get, but so far, because people know, when we get in those positions, what we can do, specifically black women, specifically black women, um, what we can do. Even just look at with Barack Obama, as great as he is right, we were calling on Michelle, like, is Michelle gonna run? You know, like, just black women, we in these positions, we do what we do, we handle business and the powers that be just do not want that. That's just too much progress and even, unfortunately, some of us, even women, don't want us there. You'd rather trust.
Nele:How old is Trump? 78, 79? A 79-year-old man who clearly there's signs of cognitive decline and even incontinence, to the point where there was like a pad where he was sitting. And again, it's not age-shaming, because there's people that are in advanced age that still have their mind about them, but this man does not like. Think about it. If he, if something happens to him in that four years, jd vance is going to be president. Do you want jd vance to be a president?
Soph:they do, like they do, which I don't you know what. It's really weird how we're for these elections, these past couple of terms, like it's, both sides are like petrified of the other ones, like they just think, like the world is going to end or something. It's, it's not, you know. For Harris to reach where she reached, I think, is really impressive. Like she showed that she's competent, she's better than him in every single way, every single way, every single way, every single way possible she's more competent, Like she would have done a better job.
Soph:But we don't want to give her that chance. We don't want to let her climb that high. But there will be. In my life, in our lifetime, we'll see it Whether you think so, before we're off of this earth?
Nele:you think so? I think, before we're off. I think your kids will.
Soph:If it doesn't, if it doesn't, if it doesn't end, you know, I, I, I, I, I think so. And when you look at the demographics of the people who are voting for Trump, you're like Gen X boomers, Like they're just, they're the older demographic they have. I mean, yes, no matter what age you are, you are, you know, you're part of society. Like you know you should vote in yourself inches, but you should also think of the people who are coming behind you, especially these boomers who like it up for all of us.
Nele:Yeah, it's like I'm glad y'all were able to buy a house off of the JC penny catalog and pay $50 for it and you know you can live off your pension and all that. But these are different times. We don't know, by the time we get to a certain age, if Social Security will still be around.
Soph:We don't know. Where can you afford to live? And what's wild is? Some of them have to go back into the workforce because Social Security is not enough.
Nele:Yes. And so to tell people that, oh, go to school, get an education, then get a job, no, nothing's, that's not guaranteed now. You have to kind of have a partner. Now you kind of have to have another side hustle and then a side hustle for the other side hustle.
Soph:Yeah, just just to make it I know anything that sounds like a social security net. Right, they're like against, they don't want to give people any money, they don't want to do any of this. Oh, my Social security is a safety net. Yeah, that you're getting. But you know it's got minds F you and that's what it is. But you know what, harris, while she didn't make it, she totally deserved to 100%.
Soph:She did, she did a good job she did, she did it. She showed out Like she was phenomenal, right, she did All her ducks were in a row. But we all know it's not a meritocracy in this country. We fail to see that. So, so you know, we didn't show up for her and we I'm not not you and I, but there's a huge chunk of the of the population that did not show up for her um, yeah, but we did have. We did have some other wins, right? So Delaware got its first Black and female senator, oh yeah, and Maryland got its first Black senator. It feels weird to say first Black or first woman in 2024, but the election shows this is why. So I think there are people who want to stop progress, but you can't like they'll. They'll do everything they can, but yeah, there, it's gonna happen.
Nele:What's the thing? The only thing that's inevitable in this world is change, so it's gonna happen. There's even a trans woman that was, I think, elected to the senate and that was like the first like trans woman awesome.
Soph:Yeah, so you know progress is happening, but you know progress is happening. It's not as fast as we'd want, but it's happening. I'm hopeful for the generations that are coming up, unless they're, but then again, sometimes your parents, your family, they shape you Well. I'm raising my kid to be fair and all things great and not hate people based on.
Nele:There's a lot out there. Okay, yeah, you can do your best, but I don't know how the little kids are raised.
Soph:We don't know.
Nele:And being around your kids.
Soph:And I think she should run again. She should run again in four years. Or you're like no, or she should just rest. No, she should run again.
Nele:She should run again in four years, or you're like no, or she should just rest, no, she should rest, she should rest, yeah, she should rest, yeah, I think so. I think that we're just not ready yet. It's going to take some time. I think what's going to happen you heard it here first is that I mean, of course, trump can't run again. Hopefully he's got the Supreme Court. Do away with term limits. I'm just going to be forever.
Soph:Did that have to be ratified by all states or term limits in the Constitution?
Nele:Girl does it even matter, They'll find a way. I don't trust the government. I don't trust not that I did so much before but I think the electoral college is crap. Um, I think the system needs the mind of a trumper. Now I realized that a former jump off that I had I don't call him a jump off, he was a friend, you know but he's a trump supporter and you know he didn't look like this. I was very shocked. He's a sweetie pie. I kind of challenged it a little bit, but not really. People are allowed to think what they think, but I just want to do a little reality testing, like I don't even think this is going to benefit you. For me, the only way I could see it is that you're going against a black woman. You're not really for white men, but you're going against a black woman.
Soph:That's the way I see it when it comes to some black men. I think there's this anger towards black women. There's this like hate. I don't know if it's the. You know it's what the oppressor managed to accomplish. I love that saying where they were like, like. When it comes to like, the oppressor doesn't have to like raise a, raise a finger, like they do their job and then the oppressor of the continue on that legacy.
Nele:And yes, that's a whole other podcast. Ok, because that's real, like it gets passed down in our DNA. Even, like you know, and I just think that I mean technically, you would think that we already had a black president, a black man president. So you know, it's our turn, but no, it's kind of a crabs in the barrel. I will say the stuff that was being spewed out, but actually the, the numbers turned out that black men released actually didn't end up supporting, probably got shamed by obesey. Okay, obesey was like, was like, absolutely not, you're stupid, but he was saying the hard part out loud, where some men just don't want to see a woman in power, some don't see a Black, especially a Black, black-ish woman in power.
Soph:And so.
Nele:I was watching, actually, one of um funky dernive rap. Weird feelings about watching him. But he was saying he didn't realize how hard women have it until now and it's like really, sir, do you know what's going on in the world? Do you know how hard this woman had to work? She actually was working with stuff like a lot of stuff against her first of all, starting off like campaigning later, and look how hard she had to work for him to still be in the lead.
Nele:It wasn't like a smoking lead but it doesn't make any sense to put zero out like he put like towards he put zero nothing self, like he just went up there and just said words after a while he just wanted a rally just to have people around. It just wasn't making any sense. That like the words, this man's words weren't making sense. And fox to do the best they could with like sane washing, sanity washing his stuff, but even then there were times they gave up too. So it just goes to show like what we're working against. No matter how hard we try, no matter how hard we work, we can have the credentials.
Soph:But the party of Christians is the most hateful party there is, but to me that's just you saying it they, though You're saying it. They are. They're incredibly hateful. They love that, thy fellow man, if it's. They look like them, act like them, have their same beliefs, but anyone else A few.
Nele:You know how I feelianity is a tool to oppress people of color, oh yeah, black people.
Nele:I I hope in that saying uh, religion is opium for the masses, yeah, yeah, even, um, I went to, like you know, parochial school, catholic school, and they were saying, how you know, religion is man made. I mean, this stuff is nice, we don't need all this stuff to connect to a higher power. But, you know, christianity just seems to be like at the top of the list in terms of like, hey, imperialism, and just my way is the right way, and there's just so much hypocrisy within the religion in itself.
Soph:Bible is just a big old ball of hypocrisy bible like if you just get the bible as a zane novel.
Nele:I know that's hella disrespectful, but you know that's like a bible as a zane novel. I know that's hella disrespectful, but you know that's like a bible as english class and undergrad there was there's what's look at that.
Soph:Is it this? I don't know if it's, I don't think it's a song of solomon, song of solomon.
Nele:That that's damn, that's, um, it's a little spicy. A little spicy there, the song of solomon, it's spicy.
Soph:Uh, I'm getting into it yeah, but I mean women get no respect in there they don't so.
Nele:So what can we take away from this election, from these results?
Soph:they weren't the results that I wanted, um, but I think for her to start when she started to have all those roadblocks and still managed to get all the votes that she got, I think is impressive she did. She did a phenomenal job and she did an inspiration to all girls, especially Black girls, to see themselves. I can run for president. I'm around these kids a lot because of my 13-year-old. They're like whatever I want I can get, they already have that high ideal and expectation to see her. Where she's at, I think, is I think it's, I think it's great, like um, and I think you know we'll just continue to build on that. Yes, she didn't win, but we have two black women senators now that we've never had before. I mean, we used to have just four, now it's up to six. Okay, it's slow progress. Progress is slow but it's going to come.
Nele:It's going to continue chipping away.
Soph:So your takeaway is full of hope. I don't want to be how I was in 2016. I don't want that man, that party, to take that away from me. It's four years. This is not the end. I mean it could have. Yes, there are going to be some major impacts, but there's, you can still make change. There's still other ways to help and that change, especially vote at the local level, like vote in all of these things, like that's where a lot of that's how someone like Margie Taylor Green gets to where she's at oh my goodness, she's so awful when you don't vote at that level it just slides right in like just vote vote against people.
Nele:So if you have a message of hope, I am actually pretty scared, um, only because I could see when you voted, when you didn't know. But now you know, and so and you clearly see what's going on. And so to have that much hate but to have that ideal that you have to rule supreme, that it's to your own detriment. I'm trying to understand, um, and it saddens me. It's cutting off your nose, despite your face, because we're all we're going to suffer. This man is ill-equipped. He is ill-equipped and the plan has been laid out and you vote for this man based off of feelings, when there's things that are printed in black and white about what he plans to do I mean, we're gonna find out.
Soph:I'm not saying, I'm not, just no education, no education for the babies.
Nele:And you want to know why he doesn't care about the department of education? Because he had a daddy that gave him money. He went to private schools. That's why he doesn't care about the department of education. That's why he doesn't care about grocery prices, because this man doesn't know how to grocery shop he's never had to do it.
Soph:But what do youeducated this man?
Nele:yeah, that's, that's true this man, particularly black men, that voted for him. You're voting for a man that does not want to hold police accountable when they when they hurt people, but yet you vote for him. You talk, talk about okay, there's no Black agenda, or whatever. No one's ever going to come out right say there's a Black agenda. No one's ever going to say that right. But you have to think about certain things that do impact Black people, and just you, not you wanting to be a melanin deficient, rich man so much that you're not realizing that you are voting in your own demise and maybe not you specifically, but you got a cousin that's on the corner. You got like. I just feel like America is just very stupid. America is very stupid and I don't know how we can be respected.
Soph:Smart people voted for him too.
Nele:That's true. I don't think they're smart, though. I don't think they're smart, so there's no way possible that you can hear Kamala speak and hear Trump speak and objectively say that person makes sense. No, you're not smart at all. I'm saying that very clearly.
Soph:You are not smart if you vote for trump we don't think so, but there's this conception that it's all of these uneducated people who are voting for him, which is not the case no, it's not.
Nele:there's people that definitely, like you, want to align with the 1%, but you're not the 1%, like I just don't, I don't even, I don't understand.
Soph:I think it just comes down to like hate. Yeah, no, it's a very hateful.
Nele:Yeah, no one's saying that. So you calling it intelligence? It's not intelligence, it's hate overriding objectivity. It's hate overriding like just what would make sense. Yeah, and there's this.
Soph:You know, when it comes to there's this thing that they're pushing, that somehow we're trying to replace the white race. You know, um, they're not saying it, they're not campaigning on that, but that's the message that you. You know they're not saying it, they're not campaigning on that, but that's the message that you always see. And they're like we always want to be on top. And if you always want to be on top, you don't want to go with the, you don't want to go with the party that has a black or black and Asian woman as the main ticket. Yeah, you know, there's always this oh it's, it's DEI, this, everything. If you're not white and you get hired for something, all of a sudden, it's a DEI hire. We are over qualified for a lot of these positions.
Nele:Most, most of them. So I people act like DEI is like you're coming in with no kind of credentials and you're just hired all bald, all up and through.
Soph:It doesn't, it doesn't work that way it doesn't, um, but that's what, that's what they think. Like, anytime something goes wrong and if it's a black woman, a black man of poc in power, like, oh it was, it was clearly it was dei, right, um, I don't know? Like silicon valley bank, when was it like? Last year it went under. They had one black man on the board. One black man on the board. Guess what? It was because of dei. This happened. Like some idiot wrote an article. It was because they were so too focused on dei. It's crazy, it is. But don't leave the country. People like I'm gonna leave the country.
Nele:I mean girl. I mean I do have my trip to bali, so I just might not come back, should I have to only survive like a year or two out there. Um, I'm just interested to see. It's almost like like this is life, like it's happening, but I don't feel like it is happening and I feel like I'm gonna, I'm a spectator, like it just doesn't seem, it hasn't sunk in yet, but once in one health care quadruples.
Soph:It's already crazy as it is, because you know his whole thing is trying to dismantle Obamacare, which is the Affordable Care Act. That's his whole thing. Let's see what happens. Things continue to increase. He loves Russia.
Nele:Ukraine is probably like what's going to happen with Ukraine and them and child. It's going to be A hot ass mess. It's going to be a hot ass mess. It's going to be a hot ass mess. You know, we middle class, we right in the middle, but it is going to be a hot ass.
Soph:You know what? She should not run the next term Because it's going to be a hot ass. Mess it. It is gonna be a hot ass. You know what? She should not run the next term? Because it's gonna be a hot ass mess. It's gonna be a hot ass mess and they're gonna blame it on the black woman absolutely for not fixing all the ills.
Nele:Just how, with like with this, you know, with this campaign, it's like, oh, you're a vice president, look what's happening under the the administration now, and it's like she's not the president. But you actually had trump, that was the president. I mean, all of a sudden it's like, oh, the vice president, the vice president, the vice president isn't the president.
Nele:So I just don't understand that argument yeah, this is going to be interesting because yeah, this is everything is red, everything is red, but girl you just gonna do what we do and keep, keep on trucking just take care of yourself, because if there's a next like pandemic, like I just prayed, the next four years is none of the pandemic. There's not another like financial collapse. I just don't see anyone, anyone in trump's administration, doing anything that one doesn't make them look good. So definitely, giving the the stimulus checks helped him look good, um, but well he has Herschel Walker on something related to defense? Yeah, girl, he's gonna bring Elon in no, absolutely not.
Nele:Okay, absolutely not. Elon can stay right where he is. He can't even run Twitter. No shade the shade, all the Twitter. No shade, the shade, all the shade, all of the shade.
Soph:Okay yeah, but we'll be fine.
Nele:Yeah, we'll be fine yeah, we will be it's gonna be scary and rough and feel all the feels, but well, well y'all um, there really isn't much to say because we're still trying to formulate the words. Um, just burn some sage y'allall. Hold on to your Bible, your Bible.
Soph:You should not hold on to your Bible.
Nele:I don't know Quran Something girl. You need something to believe in, because I don't know if God wanted this. I believe it's the work of the devil. Mark my words.
Soph:Diddy's going to be out. Well, we don't know the devil's story, we only know God's story, that's true, and his story is not great and what we've done with his story is not great. All right, we justified slavery that is very true With the Bible. We went into these countries to preach and convert them to Christianity. So, it is not a tool for good imperialism at its finest it is not a tool for good.
Nele:So alright, y'all well if you like the vibe. Please make sure to like comment and subscribe yeah take care alright, till next time. Y'all bye.
