Is This How It Ends?
Is This How It Ends?
Rest in Pixels: The Digital Afterlife
What happens to your social media after you die? Does your digital ghost haunt the algorithm, or do you just fade into the void? In this episode, we dive into the eerie world of the digital afterlife—where companies are working to make sure you never really log off.
From AI-powered chatbots that mimic the dead to mind-uploading experiments straight out of a dystopian sci-fi novel, we’re exploring the bizarre and unsettling future of immortality online. Would you want your personality living forever in the cloud? What happens when billionaires and tech bros get involved? And how do we make sure we don’t end up stuck in a subscription-based afterlife?
Also in this episode:
👀 Trump, Musk, and an AI-generated scandal
🎤 Diddy’s legal drama continues
♓ Shady Astrology: Pisces Edition
☄️ A newly discovered asteroid with sketchy impact odds—should we be worried?
Hit play and prepare for an existential crisis.
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How AI Is Redefining Death, Memory, and Immortality
The Jessica Simulation: Love and loss in the age of A.I.
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Hey y'all Welcome to. Is this how it Ends? Podcast? I'm Nell, I'm so and we're here for this episode. Let's get into it. All right, so on to normal-ish, or maybe we should just call it what in the doge, because it's too much to like. Keep up with, I'm at a loss, but there were some shenanigans that actually happened today. On Monday, february 24th today, some hackers infiltrated the Department of Housing and Urban Development headquarters in Washington DC, broadcasting an AI-generated video of President Donald Trump kissing Elon Musk's feet on cafeteria screens. The video displayed the messaging Long Live the Real King, highlighting concerns over Musk's influence in the administration, particularly through his role overseeing the Department of Government Efficiency. Hud spokeswoman Casey Lovett condemned the incident as a waste of taxpayer dollars and resources and stated that the appropriate action would be taken against those responsible. I mean, have you seen this photo, this video? No, I haven't seen it.
Soph:I guess I'm gonna have to check it out.
Nele:Girl. I was like, first of all, I don't understand this, because Musk doesn't actually. Does he work for Doge? He doesn't.
Soph:Well, now they're saying he's an advisor to the president. How much money did this man give? How much money did he what you did? Just like the video where his son. He's in the Oval Office. I guess Trump is sitting down, musk is speaking, trump is nothing, or he has his son with him. I think the son turns to Trump and is like what did he think? I'm like you're not the president, you need to leave. Yeah, this little boy, I know You're not the president, you need to leave.
Nele:I'm like what he heard this from his dad but it's almost like you know, remember, you had to take your daughter to work days, like take your kids to work day, and I feel like musk is the kid, but he's actually running things and so they're like okay, musk, you know how you let the kid press the button in the elevator. You know it's like all right, musk is. Like. You all have to list five things that you've done and email it to me, and it's just like and then the White House, the White House has intervened and be like um, no, we did not say that Ignore what Musk is telling you Every time. Then it was another with the federal workers, like if you don't email him by like the end of the week or by the end of the day, or something like that in terms of like what you do, like then you're fired. It's just, it doesn't make any sense. He keeps on putting out these directives. And then the white house has to be like no, this isn't real. Why do you keep on letting him do this?
Soph:He wants power really bad. I think that's what happens when money is in politics. Like you owe people, he owes you. Yeah, it's the only thing I can think of, because I just felt like when he was running, like I, there was like a. I didn't get the sense that he particularly liked. Must you know? Like it's really weird. I follow it in bits and pieces. I really just like I just can't right. It's so weird. It's like the way it used to be. You know, congress makes the laws. You know the president could either veto it or approve it, but he's just executive order. Executive order. There's the laws. The president could either veto it or approve it, but he's just executive order.
Nele:There's no laws, there's no rules, it doesn't matter. And I think Trump is probably as a retaliation, he's probably just going to cancel HUD altogether, or maybe he'll put Kim Kardashian as head of HUD, since he's just putting random ass people.
Soph:They were going to ask him for money they wanted money from FEMA or something and he was like no, he said some really nasty things about Kim's wife and, of course, still voted for him and all of that really nasty things about Kemp's wife, and you know Kemp is like, of course, you know, still voted for him and all of that. So I this is just a game to him and people are enabling this and it's messing up a lot of people's lives.
Nele:These are people's lives. Wasn't 9,000 federal workers were fired from, like the IRS?
Soph:Yeah.
Nele:These people's lives.
Soph:This is crazy. Unemployment is already out of control. It's an awful job market. Now you have all of these people. It's out. It's so cruel for me it's really cruel. It's very cruel. They're calling back people too, the DOE. They let go of people, department of Energy, and they call them back.
Nele:There's like another department. They did the same, and then I just see you guys don't know what you're doing, you don't, and you're just live, yeah. So that's it on the political front Now in celeb news. I really haven't been caring about what's it on the political front, um. Now in celeb news.
Soph:I really haven't been caring about what's going on um if you gotta care, because I don't care, like it's gonna be okay.
Nele:Okay, I care a little more than you do. Um, I don't know if I want to talk about asap rocky being acquitted. Um, or that's Rihanna's man, just in case. So that was Rihanna's man. Yeah, it was like aren't there like 20 ASAPs yeah, there's like ASAP Ferg and like are they all ASAP mob?
Nele:I think it's what's called girl. We old, I don't know these things. I just understand why rihanna's still with the man that wears cornrows, but you know, to each his own. Okay, these are some pisces, shenanigans. Okay, I don't which I'm gonna get in that ass later. Okay, I was maybe gonna talk about blake lively shenanigans, you know, because no one's really liking her at this point, but I decided to talk about Diddy because it's been a while since.
Soph:We talked about him last time. You know, we talked about him.
Nele:Oh yeah, we did a little bit, but there's an update. So, first of all, diddy Zass is still in jail. His trial isn't until May, so it's almost happening. He might as well just relax Like you're not going anywhere. So, apparently, on February 21st, anthony Rico, one of Diddy's defense attorneys, filed a motion to withdraw from representing Combs in his federal case involving charges of sex trafficking and racketeering. Rico cited sufficient reasons for his decision but did not disclose specifics, referencing attorney-client privilege. He assured the court that his withdrawal would not impact the trial scheduled on May 5th.
Nele:Combe remains incarcerated at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn since his arrest in September 2024. Despite Rico's departure, combe continues to be represented by his remaining legal team. Like something, something's going on where he's just like beach bad. He's like no, they're just dropping off life flies. I wonder is this the lawyer that was? Remember one of our episodes in the beginning where he was talking about like the baby oil and like defending, like why did he have so much baby oil? Cause that's what they sold at Costco. And Costco was like girl, we don't sell that Costco's. Like we don't know her, absolutely not.
Soph:I don't know. I haven't been following, so that's.
Nele:Yeah, so it's. It's just a whole. There was a time I was really following it and now it's just like he's just gonna be in there. He's tried everything. Hunger strikes um. At one point I did hear he was like running things in there. I don't know some kind of ring that was going on with the other prisoners, like making him like his bitch and making his bed and shit like that. There's just a lot bullying them for phone time or whatever. Yeah, I read somewhere I don't know if it's true, it's on Lipstick Alley he's trying to reach out to Trump to get a pardon.
Soph:I was thinking about that that's allegedly all.
Nele:I don't know. I believe it, but I believe it, I believe it.
Soph:Yeah, yeah, he's got to have enough money, because Trump can't be bought yeah he definitely can be, but that's it what I have for normal-ish.
Nele:It's pretty short, y'all, because I wasn't paying these celebrities, no mind, okay, even though ASAP Rocky, I really think he did it like it was like for shooting his friend, or something like that. Yeah, this is four years now. Hmm, was it fatal? I don't think so. I think the friend is still alive, but you know, rihanna's showing up in her court fashions, she wasn't given. Rihanna was looking tired. I'm sure she was tired of shelling out money for his, for his legal team, or whatever you know. At the end, though, she hugged him, she hugged the defense lawyer and he hugged the defense lawyer. I heard somewhere that they said they're going to name their next baby after the defense lawyer. Yeah, I just, I just don't understand. I just Covering your baby daddy legal fees. But all right, money can't buy taste. That's all I got to say. All right, that's it for normal ish y'all.
Soph:So today's main topic we're going to. We're going to be getting a little. We're going to get uncomfortably existential. Oh OK, I'm ready. I'm ready, we're going to talk about death, but we're going to make it digital. As I mentioned, it's a little. This is it's morbid, nowid now. So what do you think happens to your social media, or anyone's social media, after they pass away?
Nele:I don't know. I've always wondered that.
Soph:Yeah, I mean, I've never really thought about it, right, does it? Does your old ghost haunt the algorithm? Do your old text tweets and thirst traps live on forever? Maybe some poor relative they got to go in there, they got to shut it down, or I remember like on linkedin, like if someone passes, like somebody will quote, will you know, post a message? Right, obviously you can get access to so I think facebook and all that you can get access to a deceased person's um profiles if you can prove that you know what that relationship is.
Soph:So, you know, I do recall seeing these and I'm like, oh my God, that's so sad. Well, even if you're not thinking about it, companies are you know? It turns out that there are some companies working to make sure you don't just disappear into the void and they want to keep you talking, maybe forever.
Nele:No, absolutely not. So I'm tired of this. Okay, first it was with the uncle and the auntie, with the ai people, so now they're going to use ai to be you when you're not even here. Girl, it's absolutely not strapping, okay, so, no, no, no, it's going to be more of the notes, okay, okay, all right.
Soph:So it's a rapidly growing field. It's, you know, the world of digital afterlife services, memory preservations and, because we love a good dystopian twist, mind uploading. So, from chat bots trained on the dead to the possibility of rich people becoming AI gods, we're going to talk about it Like, if we can live forever online, would we want to and should we, would you want to roam online forever?
Nele:Well, here's the thing. So I mean, I wouldn't want to deny the future of my wit, you know. So maybe Maybe Just saying I mean, maybe we could continue podcasting forever. Who?
Soph:knows Possibly, yeah, it happens. So let's start off with a story. It's really short, so imagine you're at a funeral, everyone's mourning, you're sharing memories, you're taking pictures, which I think is really weird when people take pictures at funerals. But I've done it too, so it's worth it.
Nele:It's worth it to take pictures of the casket. I've seen people do that. Oh, that's weird.
Soph:Yeah, I've seen people do that, but I don't even go near the casket, like I want to see that because that would give me nightmares forever. You even go near the casket, like I don't want to see that because that would give me nightmares forever. You know, um, but you know just the usual stuff that you do at a funeral, but mostly morning.
Soph:You know this person is in the casket and it's, it's really sad, and then suddenly the dearly departed starts talking and not in a like I'm haunting you way, but like on a screen responding to questions in real time, and this isn't some horror movie plot I mean, we've seen them a lot but this actually happened.
Soph:And this and a lot of what I'll be discussing is courtesy of an article from the Conversation titled Logging Off Life but Living On how AI is Redefining Death, memory and Immortality. So this person who spoke at her funeral spoke was named Marina Smith and she used a system called Storyfile, and Storyfile is a company that pre-recorded her answers and then used AI to create a natural back and forth conversation. So it felt like she was in the room and I think I read her son is one of the creators or is tied to Storyfile, so it made sense that he would pick his mother to do this, and I kind of get it right. In the one hand, we all want to hold on to people that we love, hear their voices one last time, tell them that one thing we never got a chance to. We want closure. But let's be real, this is some Black Mirror like freaky scary loopy Looky here.
Nele:I'm not a christian, okay, but I rebuke this. Okay, I got five bibles on my bookshelf. I rebuke this. Why do you have five bibles? I went to all right, I went to christian school. I've studied bibles and you can't just throw away a bible. You can't just give away a bible like you just keep, that's true, yeah, yeah, yes.
Nele:I have several bibles back here, okay, and these are the end of days. So this is the end of days. Jesus does not want this, god does not want this. Just let us die, just let people die, because here's the thing. There's some people that sure we love and we want to hold on, but I want some people to be gone when Trump dies, I want Trump to be gone.
Soph:Don't come back. Yeah, you know what I thought about. There's always some kind of drama at funerals Not always, but sometimes there's drama. The few that I've been to, there's always some kind of drama at funerals. Not always, but sometimes there's drama. The few that I've been to there's like drama. Imagine if they're like. You know, if they're like. Well, uncle Bobby said you owe him some money. Technically, we have a Uncle Bobby here to confirm, okay.
Nele:Oh girl, thank you, that's a. I can see. If that was me, I'd be spilling everybody's tea, okay, because you know people tell me everything, okay. So I definitely would have been like girl.
Soph:Oh my God. And they're scurrying your text messages. Like you know, your like everything, so they could have, they, might, they might have all the tea of people like texting you stuff. So everything I texted you, janelle, you texted me.
Nele:I don't know, I could be messy from the afterlife, but in the present, okay, all right, maybe I'm being sold on this. Maybe I'm being sold on this a little bit.
Soph:Well, let's, let's keep going, and this is so. This is like this is just a start, right? So at her funeral, it was just based on pre-recorded responses, but you know, as I mentioned, they can start feeding from all of your social medias, from all your emails, your text messages, voice recordings, into a program that creates a real time AI version of you that adapts and evolves Because spoiler alert, that's already happening. Okay, that is already happening. So let's talk about Facebook real quick. I know you don't have Facebook, right, I don't, it is.
Soph:It is a really weird place, like you just never know what you're going to see on there, like it's like conspiracy theory from that one weird kid in high school which it's me, y'all I'm that I'm not close on Facebook, you know or an announcement from a friend saying they're having a baby. You're like what baby.
Nele:When I was on Facebook I did get called a racist one time by some girl in high school. Shout out to Leanne.
Soph:Why Leanne, why Leanne?
Nele:I don't remember what I said, but she was like, oh, you're so racist. And I was like, all right girl.
Soph:I think the really weird things like sometimes I'll see friends stuff. Sometimes I don't Like my mother-in-law. All she does is post like Betty Boo pictures and they're all always cute. But that's what she does on Facebook and all of the socials. If they want to scrape her stuff, that's all they'll get. At one point Facebook came out when we were in college. All our pictures were on there. Remember we were like we'll never wear the same outfit twice because we don't want someone to post it to Facebook. Now we just don't care. But yeah, so it was. It was the website. For a very long time it was the social media, especially for us millennials and definitely for older folks, because that's how they get got on Facebook all the damn time. Yup, I still have albums on there in random posts Anytime I go back to my old. Why did I even write this?
Nele:Girl. I definitely my name on there was Hot Sauce. Hot Sauce Janelle, hot Sauce Green. I don't know how it spread, but even my mama was calling me Hot Sauce. I was Hot Sauce in these streets. This is a little racist. Maybe that's why Leigh-Anne called me hot sauce. I was hot sauce in these streets and you know how we can. This is a little racist. But maybe that's why Leanne called me a racist. Remember Flavor of Love? It had the nicknames. And so Cynthia, because she was Asian, she called herself Noodles, and then I forgot what the other one, what the other girl, called herself, and because I was Black, I called myself Hot Sauce. And next thing, you know it's hot sauce in these streets. I'm sure I still have my albums up there. I just never like. When they started asking for like identification and stuff like that, I was like nope, no, thank you. You never asked me for it.
Soph:But I'm still on there, um and, but Facebook is like it's, an unintentional digital graveyard. So there are over 30 million facebook accounts belonging to people who have passed on. Oh, wow, yeah, and by the end of the century, experts say the dead might out AI profiles like Grandpa Brian, but 30 million currently that they know of right, that belong to people who have passed. And I think Twitter had the same issue and they were saying that they were going to delete accounts of people who haven't logged on in a long time. A lot of families were like no, you know, because they belong to people who are close to them who've passed away, and they wanted to keep that. You know, they wanted to keep that memory alive To me. I find that like I don't want to come across like, if I'm strolling through social, like I come across you know someone that I love who's passed. Like that's just going to be. It's not going to be good for my healing process.
Soph:Yeah, that's crazy so all those accounts you know someone. Unless someone shuts it down, it could just linger, you know, and again it does turn into memorial pages, while others get locked out, leaving them to exist like abandoned digital tombstones. And here's where it gets a little weird. There are companies out there, companies like it's called Good Trust and Hereafter AI, offering services where they'll gather all your digital footprints, your text, your emails, your voice recordings, and turn them into a chat bot that can speak as you, so as you're living. You could give them access to this and they'll create this for you absolutely not.
Soph:No, no, yeah, no so you know, instead of liking a picture of you know your deceased grandma on her birthday every year.
Soph:You could chat with her AI version. You could ask questions, get life advice, you can hear her tell you why you're not married yet, when are you going to have kids, family, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Why are you not talking to your father? All of that, so, if that's what you want. So there's a story about this guy, joshua Burbo, who, eight years after his fiancee passed, he used an AI platform called Project December to create a chatbot simulating conversations with her. He inputted her past text messages, information about her personality, and through this, he was able to, like, engage in lifelike dialogues with the AI representation of her, and he said it aided him in processing his prolonged grief.
Soph:And I'll add the article in the show notes. It's really fascinating and sad and a hopeful read. You know like, as you're, you could see some of the text messages back and forth with her and it felt like at some, a lot of it felt like he was actually talking to her. You know like it just felt like a fluid conversation and he said there were things that the chatbot said that it made it feel like he was talking to her, but then there was also something she would say he's like that's not quite her, but for the most part it just felt really real. So you know, would you want thinking about that? Would you want to have an ex or even a family member reanimate you digitally? No, especially like an ex, who even a family member, reanimate you digitally.
Nele:No, imagine especially like an ex, especially like an ex who hated you, and you say all kind of shit to me absolutely not, bish, absolutely not. You're blocked in life and death. You will not have the opportunity. But you know this reminds me of so don't ask me why. I know this.
Nele:Don't judge me, okay, I will not, not too much, maybe a little there is this woman on youtube that I'm fascinated with and she's supposed to be this, uh, youtube guru or whatever, and she faked her death. But this woman was such a narcissist that she couldn't stay away. She faked her death right. And you know, when you see sometimes because it does happen, you're on youtube, because I'm on youtube a lot and then you see like, oh, like someone died. You know, like, oh, that's sad. You never think that when someone dies that they're actually faking it. But I was like this woman's faking it. I didn't feel sad, I was like this woman's crazy, I know she's faking it.
Nele:She even had a post on Facebook with the angel wings in the back and it was an announcement that she passed away. She said she I don't have to be careful with the words but she took her own, her own life or whatever, and there was this whole announcement and that her moderator for the, for her moderator for her channel, had the access to her account to like, post all this stuff. So people are confused. So like, is she alive? Is she dead? Like what's going on? Initially people thought that she did. She did die, but she couldn't stay away. She could not stay away. So then a live pops up. You know how you do, like the, the lies, the countdowns for the lives or whatever like, and so I'm like if you're dead, why is there a a live countdown going on? So then we're all confused.
Nele:And then there was another post from her, from her moderator, asking to donate because she could. You, it's illegal to. If you fake your death and you ask for donations, like for the family, like if you collect those funds, it's illegal. So she was asking for the funds to be sent to her son for her son's birthday, and the son was like maybe two years old or whatever, and so she also put up a song. This is after she's died. She puts up a song you know those emojis from um, like on your iphones, where it's like your cartoon and you sing her. So she did a song and she's singing and the video gets put up, but you're supposed to be dead. She did it all for donations because she stays begging.
Soph:Maybe she did and then someone brought her back to life digitally.
Nele:She tried to bring herself back to life, okay, digitally. It was just the weirdest thing I had ever heard of and she's still alive to this day and life is really hard for her. But ever since her faking her death, but still like engaging with people online and like she was, like you could see her on Facebook, like liking posts, girl maybe someone took control of her account absolutely not, absolutely not. She's batshit, but I'm batshit because I still follow her to this day, you know.
Soph:So that's still a interesting question, though. Like, well, she clearly faked it, but someone who did and they're doing that stuff with their likeness, like yeah, like who controls your digital version of all that stuff? Like who gets to control that? And that's why they're telling people in some states have laws that you can put that in your will. Right, like what if you were to pass away? Like you want it all to be deleted or whatever it is you want to do with it? Like states have, you can put that in your will that makes sense.
Nele:I think it also should be a part of you know the terms when you sign up for you know these platforms. There should be some kind of thing to check off like I don't want you. I mean they're not going to do that. I mean, no one's reading disclosure, reads it, but maybe we need to. I never I'm like what, except all cookies. Yes, I don't know what a cookie is.
Soph:I should never read the terms agreement like yeah, yeah, they're fine, I know because we don't know what we're signing we don't, yeah, and that might get worse if there is, like this digital afterlife and we're not reading anything. Who knows what they're going to be asking of us because we're not real. So, but so, that's just so. That's the digital stuff, that's just that's. You know, your social scraping and all of that to create like a chat bot or to create like an avatar of you online. But we can take this a step further. You've heard of, you've heard of Neuralink, right, elon Musk's brain chip project. Yes, yeah. So I mean, the main goal is for now is medical. It's helping people, like with paralysis, regain function. It's very noble. But Musk has teased the idea of storing human consciousness digitally, as in backing up your brain like an iPhone, and that's some mad scientist shit and very in line with the super villain personality. Ok, that man is a villain.
Nele:That is awful, soph, because who wants to back up evil dictators' brains? How much money this will make if they could do this, that's. That's crazy. Like you want these people to just die so the next generation doesn't have to deal with these people, so certain things can continue to live on. Absolutely not, absolutely not. Nope, I don't like it. I don't like it, but that's Neuralink.
Soph:There's another company. It's called Nectone. So this company, a company that wants to use high tech embalming techniques to preserve the human brain so that one day, when technology catches up, they can scan and upload your entire consciousness. The catch you have to be alive while they do it and the process is not survivable. So, yes, you die, not survivable. So, yes, you die, but in theory, your digital self could live on after you die through this process. But because of ethical and just a whole host of other issues, like you dying, this process is not available to the public. Also, if this was possible and they uploaded your brain, are you just living in the mainframe? Could you imagine that You're just in this?
Soph:you're just in the computer you know like will they find a robot body for you or a non-sentient human clone? Do an episode on an episode on research that looks at replacing the aging parts of the brain with new parts as a way of expanding life, and the new brain would need a new body so they would grow, these non-sentient human clones. Since you know the body ages, I will also link that episode in the show notes. We're kind of morbid, or I'm kind of morbid for the stories that I think.
Nele:I mean, it's all, everything is just sad, everything is sad.
Soph:Yeah, and there's also, there's also. There's another company and there's a lot of these companies, but there's another one and, by the way, nectone. They had people who said they were interested. It was, I think I won't even say the name because I'm not too sure but there were like high profile people who were interested in this, in this process, to do this, so but it's there's no way they can, there's no way. Way because it's it's almost like a cystic suicide, so, which is illegal. There are a ton of other companies, but the last one I'll mention is eternime. It's a startup that wants to turn people into ai avatars, so it's complete with your thoughts, your memories, your personality, so you could exist after death. Um, it's in um beta testing, with over 40 000 individuals signed up to contribute their data and participate in refining the technology so technically, if it's your thoughts, your memories, your personality, that's.
Soph:That's a simulation. Like you're, you're living online, like it's. So they say, humans. You know, eventually, if you evolve enough or have the technology, you will create simulations, right so, which has me thinking? Simulation theory is something that's being debated right now, like are we in a simulation? That's that some other? You know civilization, you know create us, you know create this stimulation because they wanted to continue? I don't know, but it is a hot mess. I don't, it is a simulation. I hate y'all so much. This is awful.
Nele:Two thoughts. One, I hated the holograms, the holograms of people that passed away singers. I don't want to see a Whitney hologram. Okay, I just look on YouTube, see her videos. That's enough for me, I don't need that. We have her music. But her videos, that's enough for me, I don't need that. You have her music.
Nele:Um, but also, just thinking about now in terms of people and who they are and their personalities, I feel like a lot, of, a lot of us aren't individuals anymore and a lot of it is shaped on who we want to be on social. It is shaped on who we want to be on social media, like who we would present, like, and so now, if you want to be someone that lives on forever based off of your thoughts and who you are and who you present on social media, you'll never be your authentic self, because you're creating the self that you want to live on forever, and so there's already so many things that are just taking away our authenticity and I feel like this is like we can't even. We can't even just die and have people just live with the memories like that we've created with, like actual, real human beings. Now it's just based off of you know what we put out there into like the internet. It's really gross, it's really creepy.
Soph:It is creepy. Who can afford this right? Like when we talk about stuff like this. This takes a lot of competing power, like who can afford this? So now you have rich people becoming almost godlike. You know you'll have Tom Cruise making like 3,000 more Mission Impossibles. Like no one is asking for this.
Nele:Fast and Furious 105.
Soph:The billionaires like Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg creating digital versions of themselves. They'll be first online. I'm sure they know what's going on. We need to kickstart this Now. They don't just own the world in life, but in perpetuity. The final flex, and I'm not here for that shit.
Nele:But also like, let's say, this can be affordable, right. Let's say, whatever, right, we already have. This is where my mind goes. We already have dropping birth rates, right. And then people talk about legacy, legacy, legacy. Right Now, your legacy doesn't even have to be through children anymore. It can be hey, I can live on forever as myself. Yeah, you know. So it'll be a different kind of legacy.
Soph:Yeah, you could continue to shape things and do things and have, you know, still have the same power. I'm sure they'll find a way. Yep, yeah, I don't know, even if you can't afford it, but you know there's going to be a subscription fee, right, it's going to be like a month before you get deleted, so what's it going to be? Now you're like you living in this mainframe, and they're like well, you didn't pay your.
Nele:You didn't pay your fees so we just won't have to go dark. Or maybe like as a punishment or something like that. They'll like mix different, I don't know what you call them personalities. So maybe because my card got declined, now I'll live on forever as like a sexy red kind of clone or something like that. Or you know, I'll be combined a little bit of Cardi B dashed in there as like a punishment.
Soph:Yeah, yeah, I don't want this. I already said like, and do you have to work now in this like virtual world? If you are, if you're not rich, like, I don't want this, because how are you going to pay that $19.99 a month to keep living? That's true, you might have to buy more power. The more things you want to do. You need more cloud space.
Nele:Yeah, because Apple they're taking $9.99 and I'm just like what for Apple? Just feeds these random ass feeds for the cloud. I'm like what? What's going on? Apple?
Soph:Based on how much you pay. Are you going to be one dimension, two dimension or even stick figures? Girl.
Nele:I'll have the stick figure plan. Ok, Some popsicle sticks.
Soph:Oh my God. So I love connecting like these tech stories with, like you know, books and movies, cause you know they've spoken about this before.
Nele:Have you?
Soph:do you read Kurt Vonnegut or have you read any of his books or short stories? Okay, so I, I like him. He's really funny. We had to read him at Skidmore as part of our freshman class and I was like this book was really good. So I read a couple more of his stuff.
Soph:So there's a short story he wrote. It's called Unready to Wear. It was about people who figured out how to dish their bodies completely and live as free, floating minds no eating, no sleeping, no aging, just pure consciousnessing in the universe. It was ultimate freedom. But then you had people who weren't ready for all that. These folks were like no thanks, I like having a body, I like eating, I like arguing on Twitter and wearing uncomfortable shoes for no reason. And I feel like that's kind of where we would be with this whole AI afterlife situation, you know, because, if we're honest, we are the unready to wear people. Sure, we talk about wanting to upload our brains, but do we really want to spend forever trapped in a data center, you know, surrounded by pop-up ads, and stuck in a group chat with all of our exes because you forgot to turn off notification before?
Nele:you child? You not gonna. I blocked your ass in real life. You not going to haunt me in the digital afterlife. You do not exist anymore.
Soph:Okay, can you imagine like what this digital, or maybe it will become like the true simulation where, like, we're living this life there, which to me that's just shitty, no so he wrote this book and although it wasn't, that's just shitty no, absolutely not. So he wrote this book and, although it wasn't really tech-like, but he wrote this book, and he wrote it in 1953. So he saw this coming.
Soph:He thought we'd be floating minds and not Twitter gulps and AI chatbots. He's probably saying something like you idiots finally figured out how to separate minds from bodies and you choose to spend it making TikToks Unbelievable, and he'd be correct.
Nele:Yeah, wow.
Soph:That's the main story.
Nele:I'm scared.
Soph:I'm scared, there's a lot like people are looking into, like what goes on up here, how can they tap into it? And there's so much more. It's huge science and you know I feel like we've spoken about it a lot. Last time we spoke about, like you know, companies needing to monitor if you're fatigued, if you're not engaged fatigue if you're not engaged. That's real tech. That's out there. You know other things where they're replacing whole parts of the brain, like it's just there's a lot of money being thrown at this, so I'd be interested in seeing what it looks like, you know, 20 years from now. And now there's breakthroughs in quantum computing, so which might be able to help with some of this stuff?
Nele:But yeah, so Flick, I might have to turn my soul over to the Lord. Now to Jesus, because these are the end of days. I'm going to hold my Bible and sing some never would have made it just Mahalia Jackson, just whoo child, just GP, all you need way. Okay, we're going to stomp. Do something in the name of the Lord, because these are just some end times. Okay, end times.
Soph:Well, the Lord said he'll come when people start imitating him. So he'll do his ass.
Nele:Jesus is about to double his ass up here, okay.
Soph:He don't care about slavery, he don't care about the Holocaust. But if someone pretends to be God, that is when he's coming.
Nele:What you better say it Better say it Well. Well, don't make me my Martin Luther King Church fan, all right. Got a tambourine in my closet, all right. So that made me really sad, but it was definitely very interesting, yeah it was very interesting.
Soph:Mm-hmm, put that in your will, as you're writing your will. Yeah, put it in your social medias.
Nele:You want to just delete it.
Soph:Say I want to be deleted.
Nele:That's all I have in the will. What am I going to leave? Somebody Plants and some crystals. That's all I got Some plants and some crystals.
Soph:I don't want another crystals, that's all. I got some plants and some crystals. I don't want another life that's a replica of this one. You know, absolutely not. Things are just getting worse. All right, definitely I gotta go back in case aliens come.
Nele:So all right y'all. So now on to shady astrology, where I get in that Zodiac's ass. Okay, now I don't really know much about the Pisces. It's Pisces season, but you know, chat GPT helped me out.
Soph:So got y'all Any Pisces. That is on your list.
Nele:No, because you know, if I don't like your Zodiac, if I have a story for you, you know I have a story for you, but you know, no Pisces story. I might have dated one Pisces. He was black and he was studying to be a cop and I was like conflict of interest, but you know All right.
Nele:So y'all, we are in Pisces season. The dates are February 19th to March 20th. It's a water sign and the symbol is a fish. Notable celebrities Rihanna, justin Bieber, lupita Nyong'o, simone Biles, albert Einstein, erykah Badu and Bad Bunny. Now Some people on this list is going to make sense, especially Erykah Badu. Okay, she's weird as hell.
Nele:You can't look into her eyes. You end up just having a koofy on your head. Erykah Badu's ass. You know you go to see a concert. Her ass is gonna be late, okay, just know she's gonna be late, okay. Or then when she gets on the stage and she's late and she's singing overtime, they cutting off the lights in madison square garden, like get your ass like off. And she's like, yeah, yeah, get your ass off the stage. Erica, you came late, are you serious? That happened. Yes, she was opening up ashley. I went with delores. She took me to serious. That happened. Yes, she was opening up. Ashley went with dolores. She took me to see maxwell and she was opening up for maxwell. So she was already running late and so she was up there singing. She sounded good, but then like they were like they turned on the lights. Like girl, get your ass off the stage that is so disrespectful like yeah, no she stays late.
Nele:And another time I saw her in the park and her ass was running late too. She was good. Though she was good, there's some Piscean shenanigans, all right. So the good qualities they're empathetic, they're creative, compassionate, imaginative, intuitive and adaptive. Not so good qualities Overly emotional, lazy, indecisive, they have mood swings. They're secretive and escapist All right. So now I'm going to get in that ass, all right.
Nele:Oh, pisces, you're sweet, dreamy, emotionally deep little fish of the zodiac until you cross them and suddenly you're dealing with a gaslighting, disappearing act worthy of an Oscar. Right, let's talk about their shady side, all right, because it's there. First of all, pisces are the type to cry over a stranger's breakup but completely ignore the fact that they still owe you $20 from last month. Okay, they are professional escape artists, ghosting texts, slipping out of responsibilities and vanishing into their little fantasy worlds like Houdini on a deadline. You ask them a simple question and suddenly they're talking about feeling, energies and process. Girl, I just asked if you wanted pizza or tacos.
Nele:Okay, they are emotionally manipulated without even realizing it. One minute they're sobbing into their poetry journal about heartbreak, and the next they're making you feel guilty for not understanding their very unique pain. Meanwhile they're probably still texting their ex just to check in, while swearing they're totally over it. And let's not forget how they are low-key psychic. But they use their powers for nonsense. They can sense when you're upset, but will pretend they have no idea, probably because it's their fault. And then when you call them out, I just feel like you're being really aggressive with your energy right now. No bitch, I'm being direct, okay. And their biggest crime they never take accountability, ever. They could spill your deepest secrets, wreck your car, adopt your dog without asking and their excuse will be I was just going through a lot, babe. We're all going through a lot and we're not out here acting like chaotic mermaids with selective amnesia. Okay, in conclusion, pisces are cool, but you're shady, slippery little dream fish. Need to stop avoiding reality. Answer your text and pay back that twenty dollars for pisces. Do I know any?
Nele:I don't think I know any maybe that's why, like, I can't take people like this, okay, like I can't you know I'm Okay, like I can't.
Nele:You know I'm a light, but we got to live in reality, right, that's my Capricornius nature. You can't be like, oh yeah, I'm a loving light, whatever energies or whatever, but you out here, like being a whole demon, get out my face, I rebuke Pisces, I rebuke Pisces, I rebuke Pisces. I hope Pisces don't ever come near me. Okay, you know what a sign. What a sign. Well, I don't like Scorpio men Absolutely not, and the hype about them being good lovers negative. I hope you click that for the Scorpio that watches my WhatsApp.
Soph:Oh, my God.
Nele:Negative, am I right? They do not live up to the hype and I like cancer men. But cancer women I can't stand. So you know watery people, scorpio women I like. I like Scorpio women, I don't know enough people. Scorpio woman I like, I like Scorpio woman.
Soph:I don't know enough people to. I know Leo's, you and Shelly wait, what's Shelly's sign? She's an Aries she's April, she's Bell's April 7th. I don't know my own daughters, I don't even know her sign April 7th she might be in Aries.
Nele:Yeah, and I'm a Capricorn and the rest of y'all are Leos.
Soph:Yeah.
Nele:Lions yes, that's fine. Yes, well, that's it for shady astrology y'all.
Soph:Janelle, since we're talking about you know astrology, I did want to share something with y'all, okay, so um last like, in an episode in june we cut. Do you remember we covered asteroid 99942 apocalypse yes, I remember that it was discovered on june 19 2004.
Soph:The size of three and a half football fields and classified as a near earth object, or its orbit brings it close to earth's orbit. So when it was first discovered, there was concern that it could impact earth in 2029. However, further observation ruled out any significant risk of impact um in that year. Also, it's named um. Apophos is the ancient egyptian god of chaos, darkness and destruction. Uh, so basically the ultimate cosmic villain, um.
Soph:And the conspiracy theories to me is like why would you name an asteroid that is classified as a near-Earth object that particular name? You know what are y'all not telling us? But anywho, that's Apophis. So last December this past December 2024, they discovered scientists discovered asteroid 2024 YR, a standard catalog name. Thankfully it's smaller than Apophis, but exact dimensions they're still being studied. It's also a near-Earth object but, unlike apocryphal, there's a chance for impact. When they discovered it in December, it was estimated to have a 1% chance of impacting Earth on December 22nd 2032. By February 18th this year, the probability went up to 3.1, so making it one of the highest reported risks for an asteroid of its size, which could cause a city-level catastrophe if it hit Earth. But two days later they refined it to, they reduced that number and said the impact probability is 0.28%. You know what I say.
Nele:Bullshit Me too, girl. First of all, alright, we need to find rich people with a bunker, you know, just in case, we talked about the bunkers in the episode, right? So we need to find that. Or maybe we do need to have our digital likeness, you know, since the asteroids coming for us soon. No, I'm not living in this.
Soph:No, I think what they're doing because there's like a lot of money into like space and how do we build stuff on space without having to like. There's what I'm thinking they're doing with, you know, because what is it? Um, what's the amazon guy? Um, bezos. Bezos has the blue horizon musk, has, like you know stuff. So there's probably some super secretive like um spacecraft we don't know about that's going to save them. It's like that movie don't look up. So, and this and bezos knows something is this man is building his clock.
Nele:He knows Whatever, all right. Well, that's it for today's episode. If you like the vibe, please make sure to like, comment and subscribe Until next time. Deuces.
