The Fantasy Football Archivers
The Fantasy Football Archivers will be taking a deep dive looking at the past Fantasy Football season to compare the ADP VS top 10 finishes for Quarterbacks, Running backs, Wide receivers, Tight Ends. Where Zach Waldron and Jon Miller aka J-MiL will be helping you compare the previous season to make you better at drafting for the years to come. Each season will consist of 4 episodes and the episodes will be released every 2 weeks.
ADP stands for Average Draft Position
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Unveiling 2022 Fantasy Football Wide Receiver Mysteries: ADP Insights and Top 10 Outcomes
What if your fantasy football draft strategy could outwit everyone else in your league? Discover the riveting dynamics of the 2022 wide receiver landscape as we challenge conventional wisdom and predict the top performers. Join us on the Fantasy Football Archivers Podcast, where we dissect the fascinating world of average draft positions (ADP) and the ultimate top 10 wide receiver finishes. From AJ Brown's electrifying debut in Philadelphia to Tyreek Hill's game-changing first season in Miami, we spotlight the standout performances that defined the season. We also dive into the contrasting ADP rankings in single quarterback versus superflex leagues, and how injuries to key players like Jamar Chase and Cooper Kupp altered the fantasy landscape.
Our discussion takes an exciting turn as we analyze the breakout wide receivers of the year, celebrating the explosive synergy between Tyreek Hill and Tua Tagovailoa, and the strategic brilliance of Mike McDaniel in Miami. Explore the fantasy draft dilemmas surrounding Justin Jefferson's priority status and Davante Adams' seamless transition to the Raiders. We also highlight the strong rapport between Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs in Buffalo, CeeDee Lamb's rise to prominence in Dallas, and AJ Brown's transformative impact in Philadelphia. Whether you're a seasoned fantasy football enthusiast or a newcomer eager to learn, this episode promises a thrilling exploration of the wide receiver phenomena that captivated fans in 2022.
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Welcome to the Fantasy Football Archivers Podcast with your host, zach Waldron, and John Miller, aka J Mill.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to Season 2, episode 2 of the Fantasy Football Archivers. My name is Zach Waldron, with your co-host, john Miller, aka J Mill. Hey, hey, and on today's episode we are going to be looking into the 2022 Y Receiver ADP vs Top 10 finishes. To jump right in to the ADP for wide receivers for the 2022 season. For single quarterback, we had Cooper Cupp at 5.5, justin Jefferson at 6.4, jamar Chase at 9.9, devontae Adams at 11.4, stephon Diggs at 12.5, ceedee Lamb at 19.5, tyree Kill at 20.4, debo Samuel at 20.7, mike Evans at 26.6, and Keenan Allen at 27.1. And then over for Superflex, you had Cooper Cupp at 7, justin Jefferson at 9.7, jamar Chase at 13.3, devontae Adams at 19.3, stefan Diggs at 20.7, ceedee Lamb at 27.6, debo Samuel at 30.5, tyree Kill at 34.3, mike Evans at 37.4, and AJ Brown at 40. J-mill looking at the ADP for the 2022 season for wide receivers between single quarterback and super flex. Does anything really jump out to you on how they changed?
Speaker 3:well, I mean, the obvious change is, uh, keenan allen and aj brown occupying the 10th spot on on the two different lists, but besides that, I didn't actually catch you say anything different. Did you say anything different other than that?
Speaker 2:no, that's. That's the only change that I see between single quarterback and super flex. Is Keenan Allen and AJ Brown? Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:And at this point in time, I think this was AJ Brown's first year in Philly, correct? Yes, it was Okay. Trade happened. So this means it's the second year for Justin Jefferson and CD Lamb. That's one thing that I'm noting right off the bat. If I'm correct right or is it the third year? It's the second year for Jamar Chase. There we go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, third year for Justin Jefferson, second year for Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3:This is probably also Tyreek's first year in Miami too, then right.
Speaker 2:I think first year in Miami, because you want to know exactly what he'd be doing.
Speaker 3:I feel like I have a pretty good feel for where this list is going overall.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, pretty good feel for where this list is going overall. But yeah, no. So, jmail, before we get into me telling you the top 10 finishes, could you guess the top 10 finishes for the 2022 by receiver season?
Speaker 3:all right. So number one definitely justin jefferson. I remember that very clearly this year. I drafted a lot of him with with first picks in this year and I remember it paid off really well. I can't 100 remember if it's not the big cd lamb breakout year, but I'm very sure that cd lamb was still in the top 10 and I'm thinking. I feel like I remember tyreek's first year in miami. Both tyreek and waddle were up there.
Speaker 2:Let's see was aman raw on the initial list.
Speaker 3:Aman raw was not drafted in the top 10 for ADP for single and super flex man, I really feel like Amon Ra was probably there, like, yeah, I know, I definitely feel like I. I'm getting the feeling both Amon Ra and Scary Terry big moves in the progression this year, so remember.
Speaker 2:Jared Groff. It was his second season in Detroit, yeah, which?
Speaker 3:means it's the second year of Dan Campbell and I'm on Ross, definitely in this top 10. So let's see, I I'm guessing this is the card Devante Adams here. I feel like there was a lot of passes thrown Devante Adams way. I can't really remember what Stefan Diggs did this season, to be completely honest. Um, I'm guessing. It's hard, hard to. But if you don't remember what stefan digs did, it's pretty safe to put him in the top 10. I remember jamar chase had some issues this year. I want to say jamar chase had an injury mid-season, so I don't think he's there. And then I know that debo was injured uh, bad, and cup was injured bad this year because it was the year after their big years, the year before in 2021, and, if I'm correct, this year because it was the year after their big years, the year before in 2021. And if I'm correct, brandon I, you can merge the year that Debo was injured.
Speaker 3:So for my top 10, I'm going to be going with Justin Jefferson at one, probably Tyree kill at number two I think that I'm definitely putting them on round there Jalen Waddle, terry McLaurin I'm going to go with Brandon Iuke in the top 10. Aj Brown's first year in Philly was good. So that's number six. I'm still putting Devante Adams seven, stefan Diggs eight and CeeDee Lamb in there nine, and that 10th spot I guess could very easily be a Keenan Allen type or a Mike Evans type. It's kind of hard to guess. The 10th spot, um do do we have any info on? I know it wasn't Cooper Cup so it was this player's.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure it was this player's first year in Cleveland.
Speaker 3:First, year in Cleveland. Huh, okay, amari Cooper, right, yeah okay, all right.
Speaker 2:So how'd I do so? You have justin jefferson at one. Okay, which is correct. Justin jefferson was one. You had tyree kill davante adams, stefan diggs, cd lamb. You said aj brown, saint brown. You said jaylen waddle, awesome. And then you have number nine, wrong you get.
Speaker 3:You said terry mclaurin, which he did not make it to the top oh yeah, I said terry mcla and Brandon Ayuk, so I must have given you 11. So I actually have both 9 and 10. Wrong then?
Speaker 2:no, you have 10 right, you said, you said.
Speaker 3:Amari Cooper, but I picked him as my 11th option. If I realized I said 11 people, I would have kept uh, so I'm guessing Ayuk isn't on there also. Nope, brandon Ayuk is not on the list either okay, so I was right about Chase not being on. Yes, I guess that's a good start, right yeah, so you have.
Speaker 2:Basically you had the mario cooper you said was at 11 but he's at 10, so that number nine spot you have wrong. And who was number nine? Again, number nine was davante smith. It was the year that miami and philly both had their number one and twos in the top 10.
Speaker 3:The year that Miami and Philly both had their number one and twos in the top 10. Impressive.
Speaker 2:And honestly, I don't know how I completely forgot about Devonta Smith. So, to go over the top 10 finishes for the 2022 season for wide receivers, number one was Justin Jefferson, number two was Tyree Kill, number three was Devonta Adams, number four was Stefan Diggs, number five was CD Lamb, number six was AJ Brown, number seven was Amin Ra St Brown, number eight was Jalen Waddell, number nine was Devontae Smith and then at number 10 was Amari Cooper man.
Speaker 3:I thought so much that Jalen Waddell and Tyreek Hill were both top five one of these years. I guess it didn't happen. I guess I was a little rough on Devontae Adams and Stephon Diggs, just because I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2:No you were right, though. They did finish in the top ten, but they weren't in the top five. Yeah, so to break down the top ten, finishes J-Mail. Number one is obvious. It's Justin Jefferson. It was his second year in the league. Second year or third year?
Speaker 3:Third year in the league. Third year Because this is Jamar Chase, was the and Justin Jefferson came in in back-to-back years. Yes, and the previous year was Jamar Chase's rookie season.
Speaker 2:Yes, so Justin Jefferson, it was his third year, it would say his true breakout year, where he just went off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, everyone was drafting him one overall this year. I feel like, well, maybe not one overall, but everyone was drafting him very high. I know that, like it wasn't, no one was surprised that justin jefferson was the number one wide receiver this year. I feel he was.
Speaker 2:He was the second wide receiver again taken in drafts. Cooper cup was number one, of course, because he went oh yeah, he went, had his career year the year before. That was 2021, which we'll get to in the next two seasons. So at number two was Tyree Kill, and Tyree Kill first year in Miami Immediate impact Nobody knew what he was going to do Took a lot of people by surprise.
Speaker 3:It didn't surprise other people. I was one of the people who, if I could get Tyreek in the second or third round, I was getting him, but it was for the most part he was typically gone before Because I was prioritizing Justin Jefferson the way I was, he was typically gone.
Speaker 2:Nobody thought Tyreek Hill and Tua were going to mesh as they did.
Speaker 3:No, but I mean, and it's not even that we're going to mesh as they did. No, but I mean, and it's not even that Everyone was, you know, wondering what a receiver that had Mahomes up to this point in time in his career was going to be light without you know, without Mahomes throwing passes. But at the same point in time, it's one of those things where, like I know, I was big on this going into the season that I said that I felt that Jalen Waddle and Tyree kill, both being with the speed that they had, we're just going to make it so much easier for both of them and that two. It didn't have to be good. I definitely remember being on that bandwagon. It's just I was on the, I was much higher on the Justin Jefferson one, so I couldn couldn't necessarily prioritize getting Tyreek.
Speaker 2:Hill. It was also year one with Mike McDaniels in Miami. See, I didn't factor that into my equation at all, but everyone didn't know what Mike McDaniels was going to bring from San Fran, and they basically just turned Tyreek and Waddle into unstoppable players.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I definitely remember eating a little crow for this one. I definitely remember the year before I was saying that I felt Waddle was going to have the better rookie season and the better career than Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2:And then at number three was Devontae Adams. It's his first year in Vegas with the Raiders.
Speaker 3:But reunited with his college quarterback, derek Carr. Yes, he was so you knew he was getting a lot of targets because Carr latches onto someone and just throws a lot to them. This was the year after Hunter Renfro's big year, and Darren Waller was still big at this point in time, so you knew that they couldn't just double-team Adams. Honestly, I was thinking that Raiders' offense was going to be explosive going into that year.
Speaker 2:We all did Devontae Adams just went off. You knew Carr was going to throw to him. You knew he wasn't going to throw basically to anyone else. Yep. And then number four, you had Stefan Diggs and Buffalo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not really a surprise. It's Stefan Diggs, it's Josh Allen. I'm assuming they were both healthy, the the whole way. Like honestly, digs could have potentially even been fourth, even if he missed like a game or two, which I'm sure he didn't if he was number four but I found digs oh, he did.
Speaker 3:He missed the game yeah, and then at number five was cd lamb um you know, obviously he he took like a year longer to emerge the superstardom than Justin Jefferson. But when you were watching the two of them as rookies you knew they were both going to be great wide receivers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then you also. It's Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott throws to basically two players the number one wide receiver and their tight end.
Speaker 3:I mean not in that order necessarily, though I feel like Dak Prescott throws to the tight end more often than anyone else. Not in that order necessarily, though. I feel like Dak Prescott throws to the tight end more often than anyone else and, to be fair, I think he was still throwing passes to Tony.
Speaker 2:Pollard this year too. Yes, that is true. But CeeDee Lamb, basically he plays out of slot. He's going to get all the catches, not where. Like Justin Jefferson, minnesota uses him everywhere on the field.
Speaker 3:And it's also the first year without Amari Cooper too, so this is the year that CeeDee Lamb took over as the number one in Dallas yes, that is true.
Speaker 2:And then at number six, first year in Philly, AJ Brown.
Speaker 3:When they made that trade on draft day and the Titans selected Traylon Burks, it was kind of like, wow, this feels like you're trading away AJ Brown to get who you hope is going to end up being AJ Brown. I don't even know such an awful trade for the Titans trade for the Eagles.
Speaker 2:Such an awful trade, but for the Titans. But it's also it's like everyone's trying to compare Traylon Burks to AJ Brown. Aj Brown where, yeah?
Speaker 3:AJ Brown.
Speaker 2:Where we stand in the present day. Aj Brown he had unstoppable first year in Philly. They just kept going to him.
Speaker 3:I mean, he's been unstoppable in Philly since he's gotten there and, as a result of it, that's why we got Devonta Smith on this list too.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes it is. And then at number seven, amin Ra, st Brown, Second year with Jared Goff, second year, dan Campbell as the head coach and a lot of kneecaps coming off. Yes, you had St Brown. He's another slot receiver, like CeeDee Lamb, but you know he's getting the ball almost what. Yeah, st Brown, he's another slot receiver, like CeeDee Lamb, but you know he's getting the ball almost what. Yeah, he gets a ton of time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he gets a ton of. He gets a ton of targets and this is I think this was a year that Hawkinson was injured for part of it. This is pre Laporta. They didn't have all the weapons that they, that they have in that they had in 2024. This was the offense was going through Amon Roth and a pair of a pair of running backs that saw a lot of action.
Speaker 2:It was the year of Deandre Swift and Jamal Williams. Yep, it was, we covered them in the last episode. Yes, we did. It was literally ground and pound and get the ball to St Brown, yep. And then at number eight, jalen Waddle. We kind of talked about him a little bit with tyree kill, but jaylen waddle it was his rookie year came in the same year as jamar chase. Yeah, second year, second, sorry second year and they just went off. It was jaylen waddle had great numbers, he both just both him and tyree kill.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure we're like almost unstoppable for miami well, yeah, and since we're talking about that pair, we might as well talk about the no 9 pair while we're at it. Frankly, tyreek Hill and AJ Brown made it a lot easier for Jalen Waddell and Devonta Smith to actually be who they were in those seasons and this is Devonta Smith's rookie year, but it's really kind of. Those receivers all helped each other put up greater numbers, like there was a lot, a lot of times there's receivers that take away from each other, but, um, sometimes you get that dynamic do where they are both top 10 worthy, and this was a year where we had two of those, and if you said this was Devontae Smith's rookie year, this would also be Jalen Waddell's rookie year, because they came out the same year.
Speaker 3:Oh, my bad, Then this was year two for both of them.
Speaker 2:Yes so, but Lily, you had your two top number one receivers both going to brand new teams Teams didn't know what to do with them and the second year players and Jalen Waddell, who was at number eight and Devontae Smith at number eight and davante smith and number nine just perform.
Speaker 3:Yeah, in this case, bringing in the uh the big time veteran helped uh their second year players develop yeah, and if you look at it now, in 2024, they're still both top receivers as the number two.
Speaker 2:Yep, if they were on another team, they would be number ones well, not necessarily any other team, but yeah, a lot.
Speaker 3:There's quite a few other teams where they'd be number one. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:Other teams that don't have number one wide receiver yeah, and then at number 10, amari cooper, I can't even think of the circumstances that lead to that.
Speaker 3:Like to be completely honest. Yes, this was first year in cleveland, was this? This wasn't the sean watson right? Sean watson was serving a suspension at this point. Right, this was the Watson suspension year. Yes, let me go.
Speaker 2:Let me go back 2022 season for quarterbacks and I'll be able to find that out. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, he was suspended. It was Jacoby Bursette year. Wow, yeah, well.
Speaker 3:I mean rock on with your bad self, bursette right. I mean, it's like Cleveland didn't have anyone else yeah, I mean what you don't have anyone to throw to and you're just running with Nick Chubb all the time. You got to occasionally throw to someone, and I'm sure Njoko got his in the next when we cover the tight end episode. But besides that, yeah, it had to be Cooper, right?
Speaker 2:Amari Cooper. It's basically. He was over 1,000 receiving yards, but he had nine touchdowns. Nine touchdowns will help it especially. And jamar chase you knew he wasn't in the top 10.
Speaker 3:Where do you think he finished? I don't know. Did he? He missed six games. How many games did he miss? He played 12 games out of 17. Probably iuk and terry finished ahead of him, so 13 jamar chase finished at 11.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go at number 11, with only playing 12 games. Yeah you know what helped him.
Speaker 3:He had nine touchdowns before he went out. I guess that's. I guess that's what will help well, before he came out and after he came back, because his injury was mid-season, if I remember correctly I think it was, I'm not 100 sure.
Speaker 2:We did talk about this back in the very first episode of season two for the quarterback episode for 2022. Yeah, because you saw in joe joe burrow's numbers. Yeah, so to compare the top 10 finishes between for 2022 season, between the adp, and top 10 finishes jay mill, would anything really catch out to you on how they finished in the top 10 compared to how they were being drafted?
Speaker 3:honestly the big names are like. Obviously the jamar chase injury impacts things um. We didn't realize the impact that aj brown and tyreek hill would have in their new systems and how much they would bring up the wide receivers.
Speaker 2:But beyond that it was kind of it was kind of pretty straightforward, right, it's you had Debo Samuels, mike Evans and then, for single quarterback, keenan Allen, both not finishing the top 10 yeah, but Mike Evans and Keenan Allen, like, if I'm correct, keenan Allen was injured this year, cooper Cup was injured this year.
Speaker 3:Like outside of the injuries that happened and outside of the impact of Tyreek Hill and AJ Brown on the second year receivers, those are the big surprises that shook up the list and then number one, cooper Cup.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was just injured. Yep, he came off of the year. They won the Super Bowl. He had great numbers, everyone's like he's gonna reproduce and he just gets flat out injured yeah, no, it happens, it's injuries are the things like we notice this.
Speaker 3:I like it's going to be something that we talk about a lot when we're talking about wide receivers, wide Debo and Cup and and even the rookie campaign of Jamar Chase and those really derailed it. But and we have those injuries every year in fantasy football that kind of changed the landscape. The other thing that really kind of shook up this wide receiver class more than the other ones, though, in my personal how big aj brown and tyreek hill were for their new teams yes, I 100 agree.
Speaker 2:You could basically say the two, like we keep talking about the two players that helped this year's class with their following wide receiver twos was tyreek hill and AJ Brown Yep, even though they didn't finish. Tyreek Hill finished at number two. Aj Brown was at number six. You had their other fellow receivers at eight and nine Yep. So to wrap up the show, we're going to look back at the ADP for single quarterback and super flex.
Speaker 2:Number one Cooper Cup was at 5.5. Justin Jefferson was at 6.4. Jamar Chase was at 9.9. Devontae Adams at 11.4. Stefan Diggs at 12.5. Ceedee Lamb at 19.5. Tyreek Hill at 20.4. Debo Samuels at 20.7. Mike Evans at 26.6. Keenan Allen at 27.1. And then Superflex Cooper Cup at 7. Justin Jefferson at 9.7. Jamar Chase at 13.3. Devontae Adams at 19.3. Stefan Diggs at 20.7. Ceedee Lamb at 27.6. Debo Samuel at 30.5. Tyreek Hill at 34.3. Mike Evans at 37.4. And AJ Brown at 40. And then at your top 10 finishes, justin Jefferson at 1. Tyreek Hill at 2. Devontae Adams at 3. Stefan Diggs at 4. Cd Lamp at 5. Aj Brown at six, amin Rao St Brown at seven, jalen Waddell at eight, devontae Smith at nine and Amari Cooper at ten. Thanks again for listening to season two, episode three, of the Fantasy Football Archivers. My name is Zach Waldron, with the co-host, jay Mill. Hey, hey and thanks again, host Jay Mill, hey, hey and thanks again.
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