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The Fantasy Football Archivers will be taking a deep dive looking at the past Fantasy Football season to compare the ADP VS top 10 finishes for Quarterbacks, Running backs, Wide receivers, Tight Ends. Where Zach Waldron and Jon Miller aka J-MiL will be helping you compare the previous season to make you better at drafting for the years to come. Each season will consist of 4 episodes and the episodes will be released every 2 weeks.
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The Crazy 2024 Fantasy Football Running Back Shockers: ADP Insights and Top 10 Outcomes
The running back landscape shifted dramatically in 2024, with team-changers and rookies redefining value at the position. Our detailed analysis reveals how the fantasy community both hit and missed on draft-day projections.
When we compare ADP to final standings, one storyline dominates: running backs who switched teams absolutely crushed expectations. Saquon Barkley (Eagles), Derrick Henry (Ravens), and Josh Jacobs (Packers) all finished in the top six despite concerns about their new situations. The Henry-Jackson combination proved particularly lethal, creating what we call the most authentic "thunder and lightning" backfield in recent memory.
Jahmyr Gibbs technically claimed the RB1 crown over Saquon, though we place an asterisk on this achievement since Barkley sat out Week 18 while Philly rested him for their Super Bowl run. Meanwhile, Bijan Robinson finally delivered on his first-round NFL draft status, thriving once Arthur Smith's restrictive offensive system was replaced.
What makes 2024 unique was the unusually high hit rate on running back draft picks. Of the top 11 backs by ADP, only three failed to return value: Christian McCaffrey (injury), Breece Hall, and Travis Etienne. This departs significantly from typical running back draft results, which historically feature higher bust rates.
The emergence of Chase Brown (Bengals) and strong performances from James Cook (Bills) and the ageless Alvin Kamara (Saints) rounded out a fascinating year at the position. Devon Achane silenced durability concerns with a complete season that showcased his exceptional dual-threat capabilities.
What can we learn from 2024? Running backs in dynamic offenses with mobile quarterbacks create fantasy gold mines. Workload still matters tremendously, with most top finishers exceeding 300 rushing attempts. And perhaps most importantly, don't automatically downgrade running backs changing teams – sometimes a fresh start is exactly what they need to maximize their talents.
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Welcome to the Fantasy Football Archivers podcast with your host, zach Waldron, and John Miller, aka J Mill.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to the Fantasy Football Archivers. My name is Zach Waldron, with your co-host, john Miller, aka J Mill. Hey, hey, and on today's episode of Season 3, episode 2, we're going to be looking into the 2024 season for running back ADP versus top 10 finishes. Sounds good, sounds good. It should be an interesting one, especially for 2024. That just happened. Yeah, no, there was a lot of.
Speaker 2:I guess we're going to say a lot of surprises, but they shouldn't have been surprises right, yeah, there are some big names that change teams that you were not expecting to change teams.
Speaker 3:Yep, and then you were kind of thinking that, oh, they might be washed because the other team gave up on them. But it turns out, no, they weren't washed at all.
Speaker 2:No, they were not. So let's just jump right in. Let's get to the list for the ADP for the 2024 season for running backs For single quarterback. To start it off at number one was Christian McCaffrey at 1.2. Bijan Robinson at 6.5. Brees Hall at 8.8. Saquon Barkley at 12.6. Jameer Gibbs at 12.7, jonathan Taylor at 13.9, kyron Williams at 16.9, travis Etienne at 18.4, derek Henry at 20.5. Then we have a 10A and a 10B Devon A Chain at 25, josh Jacobs at 27.5. Then, over at the Superflex, christian McCaffrey at 2.8. Bijan Robinson at 13.5. Brees Hall at 12.3. Saquon Barkley at 22.5. Jameer Gibbs at 18.8. Jonathan Taylor at 23.9. Kyron Williams at 28.4,. Travis Etienne at 30.7,. Derek Henry at 34.4,. Devon Aitchain at 44.2,. Josh Jacobs at 41.3. J-mill, comparing the single quarterback and super flex for the 2024 season for running backs, do you see a difference?
Speaker 3:I mean, obviously the last one on the list is the biggest difference, right? I didn't notice too much difference beyond that.
Speaker 2:It was there um, so the big difference that I that I did see is you have jameer gibbs. It jumped in front of saquon barkley. Okay, missed that, my bad. And then you also had a chain dropped out of the top 10 and josh jacobs jumped in. Yes, yeah, definitely noticed that, but besides that there was really no other difference.
Speaker 3:You went into this draft drafting Christian McCaffrey as the first running back off the board and Bijan Robinson after the second, and then I think that every other running back had some sort of question or baggage that made you a little bit hesitant to take them.
Speaker 2:Your top three of Christian McCaffrey B John Robinson, brees Hall. They were going the top three for running backs.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, my bad, brees Hall didn't really come with baggage going into the season, it's just it didn't turn out right.
Speaker 2:And then Saquon Barkley, one of the running backs that we'll talk about, who made the big change for team, and then also Josh Jacobs changing a team. Yeah, josh Jacobs, derrick Henry and Derrick Henry J-Mill. Before I say the top 10 finishes, can you guess the top 10?
Speaker 3:Well, I know there was some controversy with who the number one was, because you know, frankly, it's kind of like Saquon sat the last game and Jameer Gibbs missed a game during the course of the season. And obviously I know, because of the whole thing, that in a week when no one is playing fantasy football, jameer Gibbs passes Saquon Barkley as the one and two, so it's kind of a one and one A as far as I view it, because you know you have the game that was missed and you have him in the backfield of platoon, but then you had another guy sitting out. And, by the way, just need to say this really quick, the whole thing where it's kind of like, oh, they better win the super bowl, since saquon didn't get the russian record. Well, they won the super bowl, and who knows if some sort of fatigue would have happened to where saquon wasn't 100 in the super bowl. So the eagles made the right choice I'm just calling it that way whether, uh, you know and no guarantee he's hitting the record, though probably would have.
Speaker 3:But uh, so I know it was jameer gibbs one and saquon barkley two. Uh, I'm, it had to be bijan three, right, like I don't know if it was bijan or henry, but I I would have to imagine it was bijan. Three I know that. Jonathan taylor, breese hall they definitely fell off the list. Obviously. Christopher mccaff Hall they definitely fell off the list. Obviously, christopher McCaffrey, with the injury, fell off the list. The other two just kind of didn't perform to the level that they have historically in the past.
Speaker 2:Which two are you talking about? For who didn't perform, jonathan?
Speaker 3:Taylor, he didn't perform the first half of the season and then he got going down the stretch and Brady's Hall just had a rough season as a whole yes, and then you said one other player who didn't perform, or you weren't, didn't get Christian McCaffrey so I know he's not on the list because of the injury and whatnot yes, I know those three are falling off.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure Josh Jacobs is somewhere in the mix mix and I'm pretty sure devon a chain, somewhere in the mix, but I I think I'm going bijan three and henry four. I know a chain and jacobs were in the top 10. I I don't know where kyron williams finished. It was quiet for me like I didn't have any shares. I didn't go against him on any notable weeks, so I I'm going to guess there's a chance that Kyron Williams fell off this list too. I know Calvin Kamara did make it onto it because I went against Calvin Kamara on a couple of his big weeks.
Speaker 2:J-Bone, did you say Calvin Kamara or Alvin Kamara?
Speaker 3:Alvin Kamara. My bad, my bad. So I took four people off and I'm going to add on man. I really want to add Bucky Irving to this list. So I'm going to say that Bucky Irving finds his way into the top 10. Okay, I mean, chase Brown had to be borderline, had to be borderline. I'm going to put Chase Brown in.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think if there's anyone completely obvious that I would have taken. Joe Mixon had some injury time this year, right, yes, he did. And David Montgomery had some injury time this year too, right, he did. Man. So James Cook, did James Cook play a full slate? He missed one game. Okay, I'm going to. James cook squeaks into the top 10. So, and my final one I'm adding in will be man. I don't really even remember hearing much from james connor. Ah, let's go with rico dottle, okay, okay, let's, let's. I feel like he did well some weeks, like I could just be. No, he didn't. Yeah, I was blessed A big flyer. Chuba Hubbard. I'm going to say Chuba Hubbard, chuba, ok, chuba, all right. So Aaron Jones, aaron Jones for the final spot. Aaron Jones also switched teams and did well too.
Speaker 3:OK, so Aaron Jones at number 10, then yeah, I'll go Aaron Jones at number 10. I'm going to have James Cook, chase Brown and Bucky Irving sneaking in on the lower half of the list and then my. So that means I have Devon A, shane and Josh Jacobs in the middle of the list and I feel confident on Gibbs one, barkley two, or Gibbs one, barkley one, a, b, john three, henry four.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay. So to look at the 2024 list for running backs, number one is Jameer Gibbs, number two is Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they both have an asterisk by those for the record, like, yeah, if you want it to say it the other way around, it's when we get the break those players down down, they're going to get broken down together because it's like jameer gibbs played the extra games because detroit needed that to win, to get the number one seed. Yeah, daquan got sat, yep. Number three was bijan robinson, derrick henry at number four. Number five was devon eight chain. Okay, doing well so far. Number six was Josh Jacobs. Number seven was Kyron Williams.
Speaker 3:No, really yes, okay, I guess just because you didn't hear a player during the course of the year doesn't mean they didn't do well, right, yeah?
Speaker 2:number eight was James Cook, cool number nine was Alvin Kamara. Okay, okay. And then number 10 was Chase Brown. Did I give you?
Speaker 3:11?, because I feel like I put Kamara in and then didn't mention him when I was saying my top 10. You, I think you did. Ok, I gave you 11., all right, so where did my missus factor in my Chase Brown, bucky Irving and Aaron Jones? Chase Brown got was 10. Oh, ok, my bad, my, my, bucky Irving and Aaron Jones misses. Where did they come in?
Speaker 2:So Bucky Irving finished at 13. Aaron Jones finished at 14.
Speaker 3:OK, I'll take it.
Speaker 2:It's not that far off, probably like 10 fantasy points yeah, it's not a big drop off from 10, but if you were to compare how they finished, though, it's pretty close. Like you were a little confused with um, you said james connor you weren't going to fly with, but james connor was literally very close to finishing the top 10 really yeah, I mean I I guess I should never be surprised because james connor's kind of always around there and it's it seems like he never is being talked about like.
Speaker 3:But I just shied away because, like, well, honestly, because guys like bucky irving caught my attention during the course of the year and if they were the start of the full season they would have been comfortably in the top 10.
Speaker 2:Oh, 100%. So let's break down this top 10 list for the 2024 season. Okay, let's do it At basically, 1A and 1B Jameer Gibbs and Saquon Barkley Yep.
Speaker 3:One ran for a whole lot more, one caught for a whole lot more, and I'm guessing their touchdowns were somewhere in the same ballpark.
Speaker 2:Actually no, oh, kind of. So Jameer Gibbs had three more rushing touchdowns and two more receiving touchdowns than Saquon.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's actually pretty significant.
Speaker 2:But the big difference is the rushing yardage for Saquon and the receiving yards for Jameer yep and Jameer Gibbs. You basically say he got the opportunity to fight for this number one spot, with David Montgomery going down hurt yeah, with Montgomery being hurt.
Speaker 3:it definitely worked to Jameer Gibbs's advantage, but you know the Lions were a better team when both Gibbs and Montgomery were playing.
Speaker 2:Oh, 100 percent, 100 percent. Jameer Gibbs everyone got on Detroit when they drafted him in the first round. Yeah well, that draft turned out to be really good. Then you have Saquon Barkley, who should have and would have broken the record if he played the Giants.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I can't fault the Eagles for doing what they did. As I said before, though, like you know, obviously the Eagles don't win the Super Bowl, and if Saquon Barkley isn't relevant in the Super Bowl, then you know, then the whole story changes and whatnot. But at the same time, we could very easily make the argument that Saquon had as monstrous of a playoffs because he had an extra week to heal 100%.
Speaker 2:Saquon even said it himself If he played that Giants game, he might not have been in the same player. Yeah, and then at number three.
Speaker 3:B John Robinson. The player, finally, is returning the value that people placed on him since he was drafted. I'm not shocked.
Speaker 2:Also, arthur Smith is gone, yeah, and you have Zach Robinson from the Rams, who basically did what the Rams did do with Kyron Williams, yep Number one running back.
Speaker 3:You're going to run to your best player, not switching out your backups, and yeah, he's the most talented playmaker on that offense and that offense wasn't, you know, as bad as, like, the offense was pretty good. So it's, bijan is going to be a top five fantasy running back for another few years.
Speaker 3:Yes, he will be. And then Derek Henry going into the 2024 season because of the whole factor of Lamar Jackson taking away rushing touchdowns and rushes from him and the fact that the Ravens were always to platoon. Apparently, the Ravens aren't a platoon when they have a legit number one running back. I guess that's basically what it comes down to it. Yes, that's basically what it comes down to it. And Lamar Jackson just made it easier for Derek Henry because if any one, if any two in a backfield were ever truly thunder and lightning, it was Jackson and Henry, yes, it was.
Speaker 2:And then also Derek Henry was not that far from Saquon Barkley in rushing yards no.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's one of the things that people will. But Derek Henry also played the full slate of games too. Yes he did play all 17 games and he doesn't catch passes as well as Kwon Barkley does.
Speaker 2:No, Saquon had 21 more passes catches. Yeah, not surprised at all. No, never mind 21 more pass targets. Ok, but it's Derek Henry. Nobody thought he was going to do what he did with Baltimore.
Speaker 3:Everyone's built different.
Speaker 2:Oh, nobody thought he was going to do what he did with Baltimore. Everyone's built different. Oh, he's built like a tank, yeah, and then how are you supposed to just put it? I mean, basically, like the Eagles with Saquon, how are you supposed to put eight in the box, nine in the box, I get, when you have also a running quarterback in Jalen hurt the same with Baltimore and you have a running quarterback in Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, now it's the whole Jackson Henry thing proved to be completely unguardable. Some games.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then it was the same with the Eagles. If you're not going to stop Saquon, good luck. Stopping the passing game, yep, and with Baltimore it's like all right, just try stopping either running backs or your quarterback.
Speaker 3:Well, and a passing game that includes Mark Andrews and say flowers. So it's not like Mark Andrews wasn't around most of the season it felt like, but they had a pretty good passing attack.
Speaker 2:Mark Andrews wasn't around in the beginning of the season. Yeah, it's like where was Mark Andrews the whole beginning of the season and then he just went off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that he showed. Oh, you guys think I'm finish, buddy, but that's where the tight end episode yes.
Speaker 3:for the tight end episode yes that will be in next two episodes and then at number five, devon 18. I mean he's the home run threat to take it to the house every single time he gets the ball. He's probably the most dynamic playmaker out of everyone we've talked about up to this point in time. It's just the question was you know, obviously he had all that history with injuries and whatnot, and it continued his first year into the pros, but if I'm correct, he played a 17 game season, so he probably doesn't get. I'm gonna guess he probably didn't get within 50 touches of anyone in front of him. He did all of this with yards after the catch and yards after first contact, right, yes?
Speaker 2:but also he had 78 catches.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, 78 catches is a lot. That kind of equalizes out what I thought, yeah, he had it's right there, it's he had.
Speaker 2:Literally, he was under a thousand rushing yards.
Speaker 3:He only had 907, six on how many attempts, because I'm sure his his yards per attempt it was high 203 attempts, okay.
Speaker 2:Average, though, was only four and a half okay, and that he had six rushing touchdowns. But then for receiving 78 catches for 592 and six wow.
Speaker 3:So he really made it on the strength of his receiving game, not his big play touchdown game yeah, he's, but the thing is that's devon aging.
Speaker 2:You're gonna, you know, you're gonna get a dual weapon in him in the brushing and receiving.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and as long as he stays healthy, which he had a healthy season, so there's no reason to believe he can't do it again.
Speaker 2:No, it's 100, and then, at number six, josh jacobs, the other running back, who switched teams.
Speaker 3:I feel like every time I watched the packers game in 2024, josh jacobs was getting the ball like every play, like it just seemed like it was. He was getting workhorsed more than any of these other, and it could just be a misconception on my part. Maybe he wasn't being workhorsed harder than B John Robinson, but it felt like. It felt like Josh Jacobs just got a sheer amount of volume.
Speaker 2:Right, oh. So if you want to compare the rushing attempts for the top, the top seven. So Jameer Gibbs, you can, you can't count because he didn't touch 300 rushing attempts. Saquon was at 345. Bijan's at 304. Derek Henry is at 325. Can't count Devon A-chain. Josh Jacobs is at 301. And then Kyron Williams is at 316.
Speaker 3:Oh, so Josh Jacobs wasn't utilized more. I guess it was just the games that I watched where he was being utilized more.
Speaker 2:That still. He's still in your. You're basically you could say your top five for rushing attempts yeah, and then he rushed for 13, 29, 15 rushing touchdowns and he was okay in the receiving game Okay, but he showed that he was his career year in Oakland, or Vegas now was not a bust. He can really be your top five running back or top 10 running back when he is used correctly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was about to say don't call him top five because he was only top six here, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, sorry about that, but Green Bay, they paid him and he produced.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it worked out really well for all. For all the guys that change, change teams yes, it did.
Speaker 3:And then, at number seven, you have Kyron Williams, who you thought did not produce Well those 316 rushing attempts, like I didn't hear of Kyron Williams doing bad, it's just I didn't have shares of Kyron Williams because I always I always feel like Sean McVay rotates running backs a little bit quick for my liking so I try to avoid it unless they're going cheap, and Kyron Williams wasn't going cheap.
Speaker 3:So really, when it came down to it, it was one of those things where it was kind of like well, I'm going to avoid it because it's going higher than where I was comfortable drafting Kyron Williams and I just didn't hear a lot from Kyron Williams this year and it could just be because the Rams. The big story about the Rams from this last season, I feel, was the fact that the two rookies they drafted for their defensive line seamlessly took over where Aaron Donald left off. I kind of feel that the big story for the Rams was their defensive line rookies and then it just continued being the hookah and the passing attack. It's. It's hard to remember Kyron Williams when you think of the Rams. Yeah, in my opinion, hookah and the passing attack. It's hard to remember Kyron Williams when you think of the Rams?
Speaker 2:Yeah, in my opinion. Hookah no cool, and Cooper Cup Yep. And then Kyron Williams is the running back, who is going to get sprinkled in but is going to produce for the Rams.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, I mean it doesn't look like he was sprinkled. You said 316 carries, that was the third highest, so it's kind of like he was apparently featured, a featured part of the offense the one thing that did hurt him is if he did not have these, he would probably be in the top five.
Speaker 2:He had five fumbles, three for a loss. Wow, and then going, going also to josh jacobs. Josh jacobs had four fumbles, three for a loss yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm going to forgive Josh Jacobs a little more than Kyron Williams, based off of one thing Well, the Packers wide receivers are not as good as the Rams wide receivers, so Josh Jacobs was always clearly getting more focus.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, I don't even know what you can say about the Packers receiving. They're a young, young receiving core that after Lack of one, yeah, they still lack of one. But the thing is 2023, the receiving core did good. 2024, the receiving core just was not there. Yeah, then, at number eight, james Cook. He had a lot of touchdowns this year, didn't he? He had 16 rushing touchdowns. Ok, probably not a lot of yards to go with it.
Speaker 3:A thousand nine, I mean, that's not that many for a 17 game season, and I'm pretty sure he played all 17,. Right, he played 16.
Speaker 2:Okay, and he didn't have that many receiving or that many catches or receiving yards, and he only had two receiving touchdowns.
Speaker 3:So I'm at a question like if it wasn't for the amount of rushing touchdowns he had, if he only only had like two left, he's probably not in the top 10 anymore, is he?
Speaker 2:no well, I mean, if you look at it, he still fought josh allen for the rushing touchdowns, but he still had 16 rushing touchdowns yeah, I just feel like I always remembered, uh, I had a few shares of james cook.
Speaker 3:I could just feel like, just felt like there was always a touchdown when I needed one and I went against him in a couple of big weeks where it was, yeah, where it hurt to go against them.
Speaker 2:But yeah, james Cook, he only had 207 rushing attempts, but for two, for only having 207, he didn't do bad. He's in the top 10. I don't think he's always going to be a top 10 running back. No, because he's not going to always have 18 touchdowns. No, especially it's like Josh Allen. You don't know, he's always going to have those rushing touchdowns, but you don't know how consistent.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you put a wide receiver one back on that team and James Cook is fighting for a top 10. That's probably what it comes down to oh yes. What can you say? He's ageless and he missed time this year too. Like he's probably higher on his list if he doesn't miss time, and I'm sure he caught a ton of balls for a ton of yards, so he only played 14 games.
Speaker 2:He's at 950 rushing yards for six touchdowns. But for the catches he's 68 catches for 543 and two touchdowns.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's about what I expected when I saw Alvin Kamara here on the list.
Speaker 2:That makes all the sense in the world. If he played the 16 or the 17 games, he probably in the top five.
Speaker 3:Yes, with the amount of times that car love to dump off and with how how many backups were playing and everything and how many times they dumped off. He plays the full slate of games. He maybe catches 90 passes they dumped off.
Speaker 2:He plays the full slate of games. He maybe catches 90 passes, and the one thing is he has higher receiving targets than Devon aging. Yeah, well.
Speaker 3:I'm not surprised. Like he's, alvin Kamara is one of the best pass catcher pass catching running backs in the league.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then he's been since the start of his career yes, he has, and then at number 10 would no, so he's not a rookie, but you kind of can count him almost it's his true rookie year, because Joe Mixon is not there anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he finishes as the top 10, running back with when Zach Moss went down see, it's kind of funny because like comparing him to Bucky Irving, like obviously that they both solidified that they won the job before midseason. At that point in time I kind of was more impressed with Bucky Irving when I watched him than Chase Brown. But I guess because the Bengals passing offense was so dynamic that Chase Brown probably had more open lanes than Bucky Irving.
Speaker 2:But it's also Tampa still had the one-two punch.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, no, Tampa still. Yeah, baker finished. We covered it in the quarterback episode. Baker finished a lot closer to Burrow than I remember. Okay yeah, did Bucky Irving just win it weeks, weeks less, or was it a touchdown differential? Was Chase Brown catches more, maybe, like what those? So where did chase brown?
Speaker 2:take it over bucky irving. So chase brown finished at 10. Bucky irving was at 13. Okay so chase brown was played 16 games, 229 attempts, 990 yard rushing, seven touchdowns, 54 catches, 360 and four. Bucky Irving is 1,122 rushing yards, eight touchdowns, 47 catches, 392 and zero.
Speaker 3:Ok so literally, they once scored three touchdowns more than the other and finished 11 fantasy points ahead. The difference was the touchdowns. Yes, it was that, two receiving touchdowns Yep, okay, so the difference was the amount of times they hit the end zone. Yeah, and they're potentially both going to be top five. Okay, I don't know if they're going to be top five, but they're going to be solidified in the top 10 next year.
Speaker 2:Yes, chase Brown, the Bengals, chase Brown. It all depends on what Cincinnati does, if they get another running back, or how Zach Moss comes back healthy, yeah, but besides that, it's Chase Brown showed that he can be a running back, yep. Okay, now too, we're going to break down how the top 10 finishes with the ADP. We already know for number one, christian McCaffrey he gets a pass because he was not on the field, basically at all this year.
Speaker 3:I mean we could say Christian McCaffrey gets a pass for not being on the field, but Christian McCaffrey has spent a lot of time in his NFL career off the field. I'm not giving a full pass because there's clearly some sort of the 49ers have a lot of, a lot more injuries than the average team. I'm gonna I, instead of putting the fault on christian mccaffrey, I'm gonna put the fault on the conditioning team okay.
Speaker 2:And then jonathan taylor, he, he missed games. He didn't do much in the beginning of the season because, yeah, the whole anthony richardson debacle, if that's, that's kind of the whole thing.
Speaker 3:It's kind of stagnant at that whole offense and sure enough in the later wet, in the later part of the year if you held on to Jonathan Taylor on your team or you trade it for him at any point in time, you reap the benefits yeah, because I mean Jonathan Taylor, he finished 12th. Yeah, and he probably was like 26 through, uh through the halfway point probably was.
Speaker 2:And I mean he had 303 rushing attempts, he had 1431 rushing yards, 11 rushing touchdowns so, and he didn't finish, far from Chase Brown, at number 10.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's just. He has no value in the passing game whatsoever.
Speaker 2:No, he had 18 catches.
Speaker 3:There will never be a time where Anthony Richardson will flip it over to Jonathan Taylor instead of running it himself.
Speaker 2:Now why throw it to your running back if you can just run it? Yeah, and also Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3:Yeah who, probably incomplete at half the attempts he threw rid of Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2:And then you have Travis Etienne.
Speaker 3:Oh man, I just always bad. Like a Jaguars fan listening to this show is going to realize how much I just passively and subconsciously hate the Jaguars because I didn't even think about Travis at the end when we were talking about this but Travis ETN was not healthy this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and tank Bigsby performed when he in his place.
Speaker 3:Oh, I had tank Bigsby spot starting sometimes this year. It was kind of hilarious.
Speaker 2:It actually worked out better than you know, better than expected yes, and then there's everyone else that was drafted in the top 10, or you can say top 11 for ADP all performed yep, and that's what you want from where you're running backs.
Speaker 3:Be consistent it's very odd because it's, uh, I feel like other years that we've covered, it was half the running backs didn't, didn't show through and really this time was only three. So it's kind of this this year feels like the outlier for running back drafts, yes, and then it's played a lot more like a receiver draft from other years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you, literally you had three running backs who did not produce. Three running backs came in, took their spot and that was it backs who did not produce.
Speaker 3:Three running backs came in, took their spot and that was it. Yeah, and though realistically, the top six really did perform better than the rest of the list, and I'm guessing 7 through 15 probably have comparable numbers- so you said the top six.
Speaker 2:I'm almost saying the top seven, because I'm pretty sure Kyron Williams, josh Jacobs, devon A-chain, derrick Henry, bijan Robinson, saquon Barkley, jameer Gibbs If they're all healthy, I'm pretty sure they're all going to produce for the next couple of years.
Speaker 3:I don't trust the way that McVay cycles running backs, so that's the reason why I said top six instead of seven.
Speaker 2:All right, all right, no problem. So to wrap up the show, I'm going to go back over the top 10 ADP for single quarterback and super flex for the 2024 season for running backs, and then I'll go back over the top 10 finishes for your four running backs. So ADP Christian McCaffrey at 1.2. Bijan Robinson at 6.5. Brees Hall at 8.8. Saquon Barkley at 12.6. Jameer Gibbs at 12.7. Jonathan Taylor at 13.9. Kyron Williams at 12.7,. Jonathan Taylor at 13.9, kyron Williams at 16.9, travis Etienne at 18.4,. Derrick Henry at 20.5,. Devon Aitchain at 25,. Josh Jacobs at 27.5. Then Superflex Christian McCaffrey at 2.8,. B John Robinson at 13.5,. Brees Hall at 12.3,. Saquon Barkley at 22.5,. Now over to the top 10 for the 2024 season.
Speaker 2:Number one Jameer Gibbs. Number two Saquon Barkley. Number three B John Robinson. Number four Derrick Henry. Number five Devon A Chain. Number six Josh Jacobs. Number seven Kyron Williams. Number eight James Cook. Number nine, alvin Kamara. And number 10, chase Brown. Thanks again for listening to the Fantasy Football Archivers. My name is Zach Waldron, with your co-host, jay Mill. Hey, hey, and thanks again.
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