How to Create a Less Stressful Home Life with Lisa Kelly

In this episode of the All Kids Can Podcast, Kristy Haworth sits down with Lisa Kelly, co-founder of Nelli, a groundbreaking smart home hub designed to transform family routines. Created to help families, especially those with neurodivergent children, Nelli integrates behavioural science and technology to foster independence, reduce chaos, and strengthen family relationships. Kristy and Lisa delve into the journey behind Nelli’s creation, its impact on families, and the exciting features it offers to promote smoother mornings and calmer evenings.

Key Discussion Points:

• The Inspiration Behind Nelli:
  Lisa shares how her partner Lee’s idea of gamifying household tasks evolved into a comprehensive smart hub for families.
• Features of Nelli:
  A look at Nelli’s customisable profiles, reward systems, visual schedules, and task reminders that support children in building independence and executive functioning skills.
• Neurodivergent-Friendly Design:
  How Nelli caters to children with ADHD and autism by focusing on visual schedules and step-by-step task prompts.
• Reducing Parental Stress:
  Lisa explains how Nelli shifts the authority from parents to the device, creating a collaborative and less stressful environment for families.
• Behavioural Science at Work:
  The role of positive reinforcement and habit formation in Nelli’s design.
• NDIS Accessibility:
  Updates on Nelli’s application for NDIS approval and its affordability for families.

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Resources Mentioned:

• Visit Nelli’s Website for product details, FAQs, and an explainer video. 
• www.nelli.com.au
• Follow Nelli on Instagram and Facebook: @NelliAustralia.

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Transcript

Lisa Kelly: The All Kids Can Podcast Chat - 2025/01/16 13:02 AEST - Transcript

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Kristy Haworth, Lisa Kelly from the Nelli Team

Kristy Haworth: Welcome back to another episode of All Kids Can podcast.  I am super excited to have one of my best friends here, Lisa Kelly. She is the visionary co-founder of a groundbreaking smart home hub designed to empower families and revolutionize daily routines for kids and parents.

Kristy Haworth: So drawing from her experience as a parent and backed by expertise from child behavior specialists, therapists, and primary school educators, created Nelli with her partner Lee to tackle the chaos of everyday life, especially for families with neurodevergent children. Nelli is more than just a tool for task management or a chore chart.  It's a dynamic system that integrates behavioral science to foster independence, accountability, and positive behavior in kids. We all need that in our house, let's be honest. And all while reducing the mental load for parents. So, Lisa is here to share her story, the inspiration behind Nelli and the transformational impact that it is currently already having on families. So excited to have you here, Lisa.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah, it's such a pleasure. Lisa, 18 months ago,…

Nelli Team: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: we sat down and we were having lunch and you said to me, "Hey, I've got an idea and then you just started spilling out all this magical stuff like you are. I love that's one of the reasons why we get along so well is because you are such a go-getter.  you are creating this amazing product for families and it really ties in so nicely with the audience that I have here and our listeners at all kids can because we know all of the listeners here and myself included when you have a neurode divergent child or two or three or more you have literally pressed play on the extreme version of parenting.

Kristy Haworth: So, anything that we can get in our toolbox to make parenting and home life a little bit easier and calmer and more conducive to positive relationships, the better. So, I'm so excited to have you here…

Kristy Haworth: because from 18 months ago, now you actually have the product ready for families and it's in homes at the moment. So, first of all, what is the idea behind where'd you get the idea from?

Nelli Team: Thanks Christie.

Nelli Team: My goodness. yes, it has been a very fun ride and thank you for your support. You have been pivotal in helping design the original sort of concept and features. you were, consulted with you quite heavily in the beginning. thank you for being there. where did the original concept come from? it was actually Lee's idea. he's a bit of a big kid and he loves games and he loves turning everything into a game.

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Nelli Team: and he had an idea of just how to try and make I guess boring tasks a little bit more fun by having timers on them maybe a little bit of a race although the competitiveness isn't always the best with siblings but maybe their own race and just having points involved and rewards and stuff. So that was the original concept. it was pretty simple and we just thought okay how can we do this? and then we continued to talk about it and explore it and it just grew and grew and grew. I think there was another huge aspect to designing Nelli and that was as parents ourselves we used certain tools and technologies around the house that we found incredibly effective. and so we thought how can we pull that into it as well.

Nelli Team: So, we used to use Alexa u to use timers for the kids to countdown when they weren't listening. I used to set up reminders for everything, library day, rubbish day, so many things. and so we thought, is there anything out there that kind of does this already? Cuz to me I don't know, it seemed like such a simple concept. and there were some apps and there were some things that did kind of similar stuff, but nothing that really encompassed everything that we were looking for. So, I don't know. I think we just had a little bit of courage and just said, how do we actually make this? I mean, we've owned, different businesses in the past, but we've never done anything in the tech space, and it was so unfamiliar to us, and the tech industry it's such a beast of an industry.

Nelli Team: It's moving so fast at the moment. but yeah, we just started researching and talking to people and I don't know, you kind of just follow the breadcrumbs and we just kept going with it and here we are. So, it's very exciting. we actually have a product now and it's available very soon in Australia. we have been testing it for many months with current families. and we've seen some fantastic results and positive impact and we've had such good feedback. So, yeah, here we are. It is.

Kristy Haworth: What is it yet?

Nelli Team: Yeah. So, it's a smart home hub device. So, a little touchscreen hub that sits sort of in the central location in your home.

Nelli Team: kids have profiles set up for them and they have their own fun jingles that they can choose to represent them and little avatar characters, 3D characters that are animated and move around. and what you can do is set up profiles for them and then customize all your tasks and schedules for them. And there There's three different task types. They all behave a little bit differently. And then there's the reminder feature as well.  So in addition to that there's the rewards component. So that is optional. Parents don't have to use it. So built into the tasks is a star point system. So kids can get really motivated just on earning star points alone. but if parents choose to use the rewards feature, you can create and again it's fully customizable. So you can set up as many rewards as you want.

Nelli Team: You might have some smaller ones that might be a treat or something. And then you have maybe pocket money might take them two or three weeks to reach. And then you could have a really big one that might be I don't know that new PlayStation game or a trip to the zoo. So it doesn't always have to be a monetary thing or a material thing.

Nelli Team: It can be experiences as So we do encourage so that is optional. apart from that, it's just got your basic timers and countdowns and you can add bonus stars and stuff. So, yeah, we plan on adding a lot more into it.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. …

Kristy Haworth: you've already got so much into it and I love that it really is customizable. So, if you don't star charts, if you don't like doing those sorts of rewards with your kids, then you don't You've still got everything still in there.

Nelli Team: Correct. Yeah. Absolutely.

Kristy Haworth: It's just an optional extra, isn't it? For those kids that it does work for. Yeah.

Nelli Team: Yeah, absolutely. I think, when it comes to these sorts of things, the importance is just having that routine and knowing what works for you as a family but also having flexibility with it as well. So, when you first start using Nelli,…

Nelli Team: we kind of recommend just starting with a few tasks and playing around with them and sort of getting the idea of how they work and then building on that. and you'll move things around and you'll figure out what works with the flow.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: And I guess so in terms of…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: what kind of tasks you put in there, so that would be from a functional sort of viewpoint, would that be kind of like what kind of things do you put in? What's focused in your child's routine on a daily basis in the weekdays and…

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Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: then the weekends might look a bit different?

Nelli Team: Yeah. Mhm. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: How do you set it all up like that?

Nelli Team: So, we use it for lots of things. Mostly the morning routine in our household, but we do have a lot of families that use it very much in the evenings as well. but for example, I've got one set at 6:50 a.m. and it's just a wake up. So, it's a notification task type which just plays the jingle and then it talks to them. So, it'll say, hey Jackson, hey Mila, it's time to wake up. but then following that it'll be having breakfast, brushing teeth, making your bed, getting dressed, it's entirely up to you as the parent to what extent you use it. You could keep it really basic and just have a couple, but it just keeps that consistency.

Nelli Team: It goes off at the same time every day and it just keeps that and it builds that structure and that repetition for the kids.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: But yeah, you can get as extensive with it as you want or you can dial back and use it. You can use it we had some families that would use it to block out family time or special activities together because you can do oneoff tasks. They don't have to repeat. so you could use it for a mindfulness activity or But there's no end to the imagination you can do with it.

Kristy Haworth: And I imagine that you could start off simple while you're used to it all and…

Kristy Haworth: then it would kind of build with as your family develops their own routines or…

Nelli Team: Yes, exactly.

Nelli Team: Yep. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: establishes their own routines because that's what it's for, isn't it? it's get rid of the chaos particularly maybe before school after school trying to get your kids in the shower after school it's a thing and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: but if they can create that regular routine and then if you've got the rewards and…

Kristy Haworth: they know what they're doing it's also visual too. So kids that are autistic can see really clearly what's in their day in the morning and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: in the afternoon.

Nelli Team: Yep. Correct.

Kristy Haworth: We'll talk a little bit more about neurode divergent kids soon and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: how it can especially help them. But first of all how's your morning's changed and how home

Nelli Team: It's had a significant impact on my morning.

Nelli Team: So, my mornings, and this was another huge motivator for wanting to create something like this, because my mornings were by the time we got into the car,…

Nelli Team: most mornings I would either want to scream or cry. I just couldn't It baffled me…

Kristy Haworth: Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: Deep breath. Yep. Yeah.

Nelli Team: why it was so hard to get two kids. So, this was before we had Archie, why it was so difficult to get two kids ready in the mornings. I just couldn't understand it. but the difference now is huge reduction in stress. Most mornings now you still have to prompt the kids Nelli doesn't just do everything.

Nelli Team: It's not like magic but it creates one structure two expectation and…

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: three it promotes independence and self autonomy because it just removes the authority from the parent.

Nelli Team: So that's a really big piece about how this works. we can get into that soon. but it makes a significant reduction in the stress for me.

Kristy Haworth: So, let's talk about a little bit about how Nelli can help you become rather than the parents versus the children,…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: more of like a team collaborative vibe. That's what we're going for with Nelli and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Absolutely.

Kristy Haworth: that's what Nelli helps us create, right?

Nelli Team: So, the collaboration piece is huge with So we recommend when you're setting it up to do it together with your child because it's giving them a say in what's going on so they feel like they're in control. So when we say it shifts the authority and this is going back to when I used to use Alexa to tell the kids to do stuff I couldn't believe how much the kids would listen to Alexa and not to me. I was like this is not fair.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: But as we were designing Nelli and I was collaborating with behavioral specialists and therapists and educators, I started to really understand why certain things were so effective. And so it was shifting the authority from the parent back to the child. So it might sound bad, but let me explain. if you have you imagine a child who's constantly being told what to do, It's to do that. You need to do this. Stop what you're Time to do this. They feel like they're just constantly being controlled.  So when you create your schedule together with your child in Nelli, it's giving them a buyin almost like a say in what they do and let them have a little bit of say to a certain extent on maybe the order that they do their tasks or how long they might think they need to do their tasks.

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Nelli Team: And if you have a child who you think, especially, if they're ASD or ADHD, might panic a little bit if they have a timer set on them, because that can be one concern. what we recommend doing is sit down and time your child. say to them, "All right, I'm going to time You run and get dressed or you run and make your bed or whatever it Come back." And they're going to race off and they're going to do it. They're going to come back and they're going to,…

Nelli Team: you stop the clock. It's two minutes. And you go, "Great. So if I gave you 10 minutes to do that, is that enough time? And they're going to go, " yeah." …

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: That's so good. It's a time order, isn't it? That's so great.

Nelli Team: it is. It is.

Kristy Haworth: It's life.

Nelli Team: So yeah.

Kristy Haworth: It's a life skill.

Nelli Team: And so when a task occurs in Nelli and it plays the jingle and it says it's time to go and do something, it's not mom or dad going, "Hey, you need to go get dressed." It's not someone telling them…

Nelli Team: what to do. It's them going, " yep. That was what I agreed to. That's my responsibility."

Nelli Team: And so they just do it. It's crazy how it works. And then they don't always listen to it. sometimes they choose to ignore it or whatever. And so as a parent, you might have to just go, kids, are you meant to be doing something? Then they, go over look at Nelli. Yes, I got to go do this. so it just kind of creates, I don't know, that expectation for them. Yeah, it's really powerful. Yes. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: And it's a real shift from the parent to Nelli…

Kristy Haworth: because we know that typically kids with ADHD don't like being told what to do. Adults with ADHD don't like being told what to do. We don't. and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: so when we shift that and we create more autonomy for kids, no wonder you're getting the success. So that brings me a little bit to the behavioral science that I know that you have used in the design of Nelli.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: Can you talk a bit about that?

Nelli Team: Yes. Yeah. Absolutely.

Nelli Team: So I mean it pretty much encompasses some very fundamental principles of behavioral science and that is just using encouraging positive behaviors with positive reinforcement. So there's a few different aspects to how Nelli does this.  I mean everything within it is sort of I guess positive but when they complete a task there's fun animations on the screen like celebration animations fireworks balloons stars confetti it plays sound songs and the little avatar will do a little dance so that is kind of fun and they get excited about that but then they get the star points as well so there's that instant gratification piece and then there's the delay

Nelli Team: delay gratification piece which is the rewards if you choose to use that kids and this is where I mentioned before about having multiple rewards some smaller ones and maybe a larger one is how it works is they accumulate those star points and then it's up to them whether they choose to cash in for a smaller reward or whether they need to keep saving and go for one of those bigger rewards. So, it's also teaching them a little bit about managing money as well and choices and prior prioritizing what they want. but back to the behavioral science as well. So, there's also, every time a child receives or anyone actually receives praise for something, it releases that lovely little, hormone dopamine in our bodies.

Nelli Team: And then you instantly feel good and you want to feel that again.

Nelli Team: So that they're going to repeat that behavior. And so they continue repeating the behaviors because they like the praise. And then what does that do? It starts habit formation and building that yeah, and then there's the other piece about shifting that authority as we talked about which is huge in terms of why Nelli is so effective with the kids. Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah,…

Kristy Haworth: love it.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: So, let's dive in a little bit about our little neurospicy kiddos because they are our favorite here at All Kids Can. So, okay, I want to tell you a little bit of a story about my two little guys.

Nelli Team: Yep. Yeah. Mhm.

Kristy Haworth: So my guys now, for those listening that don't know, are 11 and 10. my eldest is autistic and my youngest has ADHD. and then also coming from a teacher perspective and then a teacher that did retraining and…

Kristy Haworth: special education we worked a lot with behavior modification and helping understanding behavior and all of that kind of thing. So from the day dot I've been doing lots of different charts and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: this and that and we've tried everything over the years. So particularly for my autistic kiddo, he has needed visual schedules all right up it still does and…

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Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: they are just so effective at actually seeing what needs to flow, what needs to happen in the day, what's happening in the week, that routine and seeing that routine has been crucial to him being able to function to give him the capacity to be able to know what's coming up and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: prepare himself and all of that. And then I've got my little kiddo who's ADHD and…

Kristy Haworth: we know that a core deficit or a very commonality between with kids that have ADHD is their executive functioning skills are not the greatest.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: So we think about what's executive functioning and it's really just being executing our main job but then within that job we've got little tasks that break down to get to that end point.

Nelli Team: Yes. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: …

Kristy Haworth: we have to leave the house by 8 a.m. to go to school. Okay great that's the goal but what are all the little tasks that we need to fulfill to get to that or to achieve that goal in the end. So executive functioning is so integral to kids those skills are so important…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: because they need to figure out okay what do I have to do? I have to brush my teeth. I have to put clothes. And of course when kids are little the parent is the one supporting them with those executive functioning skills.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Mhm.

Kristy Haworth: But then it gets to the point where we need them to create that independence and eventually those skills are going to need to be, established within our little guys. And so, when I think about all of that, this is something that I want, I wish I could go back in time and…

Nelli Team: Yes. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: have from the very beginning because I know how powerful it is with neurodeivergent kids for that visual schedule for developing those executive functioning skills. So important.

Nelli Team: Yep. You covered a lot.

Kristy Haworth: That's why I'm totally all here for And so, tell us a little bit about some of the features. I mean I probably just said it What be some of the features that you have found with your beta testing with some of those families?

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: Do you have neurode divergent kids that are trying it out and how are they going with it?

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah. We do. So, it's been very effective with some of the families with kids with ASD and ADHD. I think what's so important…

Nelli Team: because you hear this everywhere, Visual schedules. let them see what they need to do and focus on one thing at a time. that's really important. Not getting overwhelmed. When they see I have to do all of that, it can be a little overwhelming for them. so with Nelli, the home screen dashboard is only going to bring up one thing at a time. So you can have, multiple kids we call them their cards displayed on the home screen dashboard.

Kristy Haworth: Yep.

Nelli Team: and tasks will go off simultaneously, but the child can look at their card and there will be an icon as well as the task name and then if there's a time associated with it it'll have the clock so the time timer clock very similar to that will be on the screen as well. So yeah, yes. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: also all of the kids that I teach within session as well.

Nelli Team: Yes. …

Kristy Haworth: It's so good. Tell us about it.

Nelli Team: you were the one that got me on to it.

Kristy Haworth: I love it. Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: Yes. It's so good.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: So, we didn't want to copy it exactly, but we've done something very similar. so it's a clock face without the numbers.

Nelli Team: But it helps them understand the brackets of time 5 10 15 is a quarter. So as they're learning to read time it'll be similar to that.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah, it'll become Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: So same understanding and it just allows them to visually see how long they have to do something and so they'll know they'll get the hang of it pretty quick. If they've got half an hour it's the half circle. If they've got 15 minutes, it's the quarter. So, it's a pie chart essentially. so there's that and so it will pull up one task at a time for them and then they can complete that task before they think about the next one. But the child can also open up their dashboard. So if they tap on their little card, it will open up to their dashboard and that is where they can see all their tasks listed for the day.

Nelli Team: They can also see any rewards or goals that have been set up that they're working towards. They can see their star counts. They can change their jingle. so that will give them an overview. So I do find and kids are so different, even our two use it so differently. Jackson will wait until it tells him to do something to then go and do it. he's 10. U Mila seven, she's different.  she'll go ahead and tick everything off and get it all done so that it's not going to bother her and she can go and have half an hour of play time. It's so funny. but back to the neurode divergent aspect, it's really effective with the visual. So, if your child can't read, there's lots of graphics. They can see the icon of what they need to do. it has the audio prompts, and it will speak to them. It will read out the task name.

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Nelli Team: And as a parent, you can pop in there whatever you want. So what we tend to do is say, brush teeth, you have 10 minutes. So it will not only tell them the task, but it will tell them how long they have as well.

Nelli Team: We do have a reminder feature. So if the task hasn't been ticked off and the time remaining is down to, I think it's 40%, so just past halfway, and they haven't completed it, it'll play their jingle again. So this is really good if your kid gets easily distracted. so Jackson,…

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: he likes have this on because it will remind him, " I'm meant to be doing that." And off he goes. Mila doesn't like it on. it bugs her. She's like, "I know. I'm doing it." They're so different. so yeah, I think in general it just helps to create it reduces overwhelm and anxiety. and it really caters to the non-readers as well. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: It reminds me in my mind I was just thinking about the spoon theory. Have you heard about that?

Kristy Haworth: 

Nelli Team: No, I have heard this.

Kristy Haworth: So the spoon theory is like kids they wake up and they might have say 10 spoons upon waking. Yeah. and…

Nelli Team: Yes. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: then they go into the kitchen and then maybe instead they don't have any corn flakes left so they have to have toast and then that takes away maybe two spoons.

Nelli Team: Yes. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: And then maybe mom's stressed and so mom's yelled because I haven't, put my shoes inside because now they're wet outside. That takes maybe three spoons.

Nelli Team: Yes. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: Etc. And by the time we get to go to school, we only have maybe one or two spoons for the whole day.

Nelli Team: Yes. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: And then kids with a autism, like my son in particular,…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: if he went to school with two spoons, I know that I would be getting a phone call from the school saying,…

Nelli Team: Yes. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: "Hey, we've got a meltdown. Can you come in?" Whatever.

Nelli Team: Yes. Yum.

Kristy Haworth: And so what I just thought of was that Nelli helps us keep our spoons.

Nelli Team: It does help keep the spoons. Most definitely.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: Yep.

Kristy Haworth: It gives us a better chance at regulating throughout that day…

Nelli Team: .

Kristy Haworth: because that morning has been smooth.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yep. And that's what we would hope if that's all, our biggest passion with Nelli is just to help reduce the stress for families and empower the little ones, we obviously want to have a successful business but what matters to us most is just having that positive impact. So yeah yes yes yep good question.

Kristy Haworth: ask you too before I let you go though, but tell me a little bit about if people have NDIS funding, is this a NDIS? Bye.

Nelli Team: So we have gone through the process and made the application to become a approved NDIS provider. we passed our audit just before Christmas. so it's just u waiting on the official decision from the commission. but it should all go through. There's no reason why it shouldn't. so just waiting on that formal decision. we have been approved across four different groups.  So we've got assistive technology and it is lowcost assistive technology. So it retails for $399 our smart hub but we're across assistive technology and then we're across assistive products for home tasks personal care and recreation. Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: Yep.

Nelli Team: So, as soon as we get the official decision from the commission, we will pop something up on our website. We're going to send an email out and let people know. yes, it's very Very happy to be able to support all the NDIS participants.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah, that's so exciting.

Nelli Team: Yes. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: I mean, even if you don't have NDIS, it's so low cost. when you came to me and I said how much are you setting the price for and he said like400 I was really so affordable for families when it's something that is going to have such a great impact that's…

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Nelli Team: Yeah. yeah.

Kristy Haworth: what I think anyway yeah and…

Nelli Team: Yeah, thank you.

Nelli Team: Yeah, we did we wanted to get it down even more, believe it or not, but we didn't want to compromise on a good quality tablet, a good quality product. so, yeah, we just had to find that middle ground.

Kristy Haworth: 

Kristy Haworth: I love your why.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: It's like creating independence and autonomy for kids,…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: getting great habits for them to carry on through to their adulthood, relieving stress,…

Kristy Haworth: and improving relationships between families. I mean, what a good why. It's just I think that listen are really going to love Nelli.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yes.

Nelli Team: Thank you. That's the goal. Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: But, if they are, we've talked a little bit about how to set it up. It's just a plug in and it'll walk you through it, isn't it?

Nelli Team: So, we do provide a little quick start guide with some basic information in a little card that will come in the box.

Nelli Team: There's also a QR scan code on there that takes you to a little library of resources that we have available on our website. but it's pretty basic. The onboarding we've tried to design it so when you're working through the onboarding process in the software it'll just guide you and tell you what to do. It'll sort of highlight each little part that you need to do before you move to the next page.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: But essentially you create a profile for a kid. you set up a few tasks and then you can choose to create a few rewards or you can skip that part and that's it. And then you just leave it and you let it do its thing, work its magic. And as you go, you'll start to learn as a parent. Cool. I might actually do one for this.'s try Let's move this to that. I might change that task type to this top type.

Nelli Team: So, cuz there's your time based task which is going to play their jingle and it's going to put a time amount on the task. So, they have a certain amount of time to do it. If they don't tick it off in that time, they don't get the star points. then there's a notification task which will notify them. So, you select a time that it occurs. It'll play their jingle. It will tell them what the task is, but there's no time limit on it. So, they can tick it off then or they can tick it off later in the day.

Nelli Team: and then we have the checklist, which It won't prompt them. There's no time attached to it. It's just you create a task for that day. and they tick it off when they get to it. and then in addition, we've got the reminders. So it'll just play the jingle and remind them of whatever it is that you want. Yeah. So Yes. Yeah. Yep. And we recommend mixing it up, too. do a combination.

Nelli Team: So, you might have eating breakfast,…

Nelli Team: brushing teeth, getting dressed. You might have those all as time based tasks to really keep that structure in the morning. But then, for boys, you might have brushing hair as a checklist, an optional one, because I guess they don't always brush their hair, do they? Let's be real. A lot of times they just walk out the door. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah, my younger barely has dreadlocks,…

Kristy Haworth: so in his defense.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah. …

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: yeah, mix it up, play around with it.

Nelli Team: You'll figure out what works for you.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: We do recommend not grouping tasks. So one family she originally set it up to get ready for school and that would involve three things going up and getting dressed and brushing their teeth maybe making their bed or whatever and then coming down and she'd give them half an hour and that's Tried it but she realized when she broke it down and just was very specific it was much more effective.

Kristy Haworth: That is such a good point…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: because I know that with kids with ADHD, if you just say, do D and you give them maybe one maybe it comes down to the executive functioning of course,…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: but when I say I even break it down so much for my youngest instead of go and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: put your shoes on, let's go. I say go and put your socks on.

Nelli Team: Yes. Yes.

Kristy Haworth: 

Kristy Haworth: Go put his socks on.

Nelli Team: Yep. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. go put your shoes on and then you go and get your shoes on. And I,…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: you can break these tasks down as small as you need to tailor it and…

Nelli Team: Mhm. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: what works for your child.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Definitely. I think we forget how much as grown-ups.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: We just do things on autopilot. We don't have to think about them. But kids, they don't think. They're like, put your socks on.

Nelli Team: Where's my socks, Mom? There's no socks in the basket. And they go, have you checked your jaw in your room? No. So, I have a look there. they don't function the way we do.

Kristy Haworth: And then they're off playing with Lego.

Kristy Haworth: Two seconds.

Nelli Team: Yeah. They get distracted by a hundred other things. Off they go. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: My god. So good. what's your big dream finale? where do you cuz I know that you said I mean it blows my mind that you think this is the basic version cuz this is like this there's so much in it…

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Kristy Haworth: if you want to put it in the timers and the different tasks and…

Nelli Team: Yeah, thank you.

Kristy Haworth: all of that kind of thing. do you see it going somewhere else? what do you

Nelli Team: Yeah, it's so funny. our developer is always telling me to rein it in, rain it in because I get a little excited and I get a whole bunch of ideas. even in the very beginning, I wanted to have voice command activation. I wanted kids to be able to ask tell me some jokes, give me a riddle, tell me some fun facts about animals.

Kristy Haworth: Yes. Boom.

Nelli Team: I wanted it to be a nightlight. there were so many things. And so, we do still have quite a big list of features that we want to add. I think the next big one is going to be that voice command. We want parents to be able to talk to it and say, "Hey, can you set a reminder for this?"

Nelli Team: because let's be honest, when you're busy and on the go, it's great just to be able to talk to Alexa your Google Home or whatever you might use. but the other really big one I want to build into it is AI as well. I don't know quite what that's going to look like. but I would love it to be a real educational hub for kids that they can utilize in lots of different ways. Before we get to the AI, The other feature we want to bring in is the mobile app. So, we want parents to have control over it on their phone. So, they can jump in and they can, see where their kids are at.

Nelli Team: They can, edit the schedules, create tasks, and do all that just from their phone without having to go to the actual device. So, yeah, there's definitely, a lot of plans in the pipeline.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. …

Kristy Haworth: if people purchase Nelli now, do they get access to all of those updates as they come in?

Nelli Team: Yeah, they will. Yeah.

Nelli Team: So, at the moment, ing. So, the official launch date is 7 February. but we are offering pre-sale to people who jump on our VIP weight list. So, if you get on the wait list, pre-sale doors are actually opening Monday the 20th. I know that it's in the future for us now while we're recording this, but that date might have already occurred for your listeners once this live. but pre-sale is going to be between 20 January and 6th February. So, we've got a little open window there. And during that time, we're going to be offering It's a launchonly discount and free lifetime subscription to the software. So, whatever updates we run in the future, you will always get those. Yep. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: Yeah, I love it. I look, I've got nothing to do for the next day or two, so maybe I might even get this podcast out early.

Nelli Team: That'd be exciting.

Kristy Haworth: My executive functioning might be going,…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Thank you.

Kristy Haworth: through the roof for the next couple of days. I'd love to get it out, I'm really excited about your pre-sale. and I'm sure that a lot of listeners are as well.

Nelli Team: Yes. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: they did want to get on the wait list. How do they do that? I know I'm going to link everything for you, but if they're listening and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yep.

Kristy Haworth: they want to jump on now, tell us…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Absolutely.

Kristy Haworth: how to do that.

Nelli Team: Just head to our website. So, it's Nelli neli.com.au.

Kristy Haworth: Excellent. Yeah.

Nelli Team: And if they want to see images of what the product looks like and we have an explainer video on the website as well. FAQs, how it works section. So yeah, lots to look at.

Kristy Haworth: And I'm assuming that parents will get ongoing support if they've got a question. They get an NI and…

Nelli Team: Yeah. Yeah.

Kristy Haworth: they're like, " this is going really well, but I have a question about this." do you have a support line for that?

Nelli Team: Yeah. Absolutely. Yep. So you can just email us.

Nelli Team: I will be opening a phone line available to people that need it. So the first point of contact is going to be email and…

Nelli Team: then if I feel from there that we're going to benefit from a phone call then I'll reach out and…

Kristy Haworth: Yeah. Yeah.

Nelli Team: provide the phone number. So yeah, there's lots of support. At the moment what we're finding is lots of people are contacting us through Facebook and Instagram just sending us messages which is great. So we'll probably keep that open for now. I don't know how busy that this is going to get for us. So that might change but at the moment you can also do that.

Kristy Haworth: You are on Instagram and what's your handle on Instagram?

Nelli Team: Yes. just Nelli Australia.

Kristy Haworth: And that's the same for Facebook as well.

Nelli Team: Yeah. Correct. Yes. Yeah. Yay.

Kristy Haworth: All right, guys. if you are looking to create more harmony within your household,…

Nelli Team: Yes. Mhm.

Kristy Haworth: 

Kristy Haworth: I mean, why wouldn't you? and create those positive relationships between yourself and kid and take yourself out of the position of having to tell them what to do all the time and have it all set up and create that routine at home. Go and check out I'm happy for you, Lisa, and Lee as well that he's not here at the moment, but I'm sure he'll have a listen of this as well.

Nelli Team: Yeah. You're welcome.

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Kristy Haworth: You guys are incredible. Thank you so much for all of your work and…

Nelli Team: Thank you.

Kristy Haworth: also for coming on and chatting about it.

Nelli Team: Thanks I just want to mention two more things. With the pre-sale weight list, we already have more people on the wait list than we do stock available. So, we may sell out and pre-sale, but if you get on that wait list and you get that discount code emailed to you, we will honor that for the next shipment. So, if you get it, you get the code, we're going to keep it active, and the next shipment is due to arrive at the end of February.

Nelli Team: that's imated. and also we have a special offer for your listeners.

Nelli Team: So, for any of All kids can podcast fans, we're going to have an ongoing special of a 10% discount. so yeah,…

Kristy Haworth: Whoa. Lisa,…

Kristy Haworth: that's awesome. Yeah. Thank you so much,…

Nelli Team: you're very welcome, You've been so much fun to collaborate with in the design process and you've always just been a massive support. So yeah, happy to continue working together in any way that we can.

Kristy Haworth: Lisa. Pleasure.

Nelli Team: Thank you. Thanks so much for having me on.

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