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Do Your Research!

• Jaiquil Marshall

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The culture moves fast—but we’re here to test it, not chase it. We start by separating art from artist, using the Jay-Z conversation as a reminder that research beats rumor and fandom doesn’t mean blind loyalty. From there, we tap into the Grammys, live performance standards, and why Leon Thomas is earning real respect.

Then it’s producer warfare. We break down why Verzuz battles hit different, go round-for-round on Mike WiLL vs. Hit-Boy, and pitch ways to level up the format—better structure, smarter sequencing, and true crowd control.

We also unpack the messy money of fame through the GloRilla family situation, talk boundaries and entitlement, and offer a Valentine’s playbook built on presence over price tags.

To close, we dive into Bill Belichick’s Hall of Fame controversy and run through NBA trades, cap strategy, and long-term team building.

Music. Sports. Real life. All about making the right moves—and sequencing them well.

🎵 Intro Songs: Jay-z - 44 4's Freestyle (Live) / Leon Thomas - Yes it it (Live) 
 🎵 Outro Song: Dr Dre & Eminem - Guilty Conscious 

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SPEAKER_04:

I never forget y'all for any price. Not for no hose, not for no ice, not for no vein, not for bright lights. Forty four pause, motherfucker. I'm nice. Y'all the monko, mu.

SPEAKER_06:

Now that that's out the way. Stop playing with Hove. Stop playing with Jay-Z, Sean Carter. Do your research. It's not what you think it is. If you don't want to do your research and you wanna believe what you want to believe, that's on you. But do your research. That's all I got to say on the Epstein Files. How about you?

SPEAKER_05:

The Epstein Files? That's where we're gonna take.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm not taking it nowhere. That's all I had to say.

SPEAKER_05:

I thought we was going off the greatness that he just spit 44 floors off of 22 twos. Y'all niggas gotta catch up, man.

SPEAKER_06:

Episode 44. Them Epstein Files shit. Yeah, yeah. Yo, y'all niggas gotta do some reading before y'all just start saying anything. Ho's name came up from a non-credible source, a tipline.

SPEAKER_05:

He wasn't no eyewitness, didn't take part in nothing, nothing. His name was just in the report because somebody said his name.

SPEAKER_06:

Tipline. So I can call and say y'all did some shit right now.

SPEAKER_05:

Right now. And everybody, their name is gonna be in the next set of files that come out.

SPEAKER_06:

Now, I played that because we on episode 44. You know, welcome. Welcome to the Outside Looking In podcast. Now, I mean, that ain't a song I'm gonna start with, but I just had to start with some hoe because sometimes I feel like people get it fucked up. At the end of the day, I can't be a fan of the person of somebody I never met. I'm a fan of his music and maybe his business deals. I don't know the nigga. So if I see some evidence that goes against what I believe to be what I think his lyrics represent, then I'm a I'ma relax. If that makes sense. So I think sometimes people get it misconstrued when you're a fan of somebody's art. They think you really think they can do no wrong. That ain't true.

SPEAKER_05:

Um yeah, I don't feel that way. And as much as a whole fan as I am, you know what I'm saying? There is some shit that could come out today today, tomorrow, or whenever that'll make me look at the nigga different. Cause again, I don't know him.

SPEAKER_06:

Like you said, I'm a fan of the music, the art, the business, whatever, from what I could see from the outside.

SPEAKER_05:

That's why we really need to show on the outside looking in. Cause we just some niggas on the outside looking at looking at what's happening in the world and we giving our perspective on, yeah. I mean, what the shit look like.

SPEAKER_06:

But with that being said, there's always some level of inner work, like we don't know nothing about. I don't know these people. We ain't never been in the same rooms as these people in that manner. So I can't say what the fuck they be doing in their personal life. Now, if they do come out doing some shit that I've that I'm totally against, I'm sorry I can't fuck with them no more. I'm not a I'm not a fucking super stan. I'm I'm definitely a fan, but I ain't no stan of nobody, of nobody or nothing. Now, what I do know if you don't want to say he's number one, you're wrong. He's always and forever in the conversation of not top five of one or two. That's the only conversation I'm willing to have with anybody. That's why we fuck with him.

SPEAKER_07:

The artwork, how does he do that? How did he come up with that? You ever met somebody like that? You ever seen people? I know the feeling. Everybody who likes hip hop, you know the feeling, it's when it hits you. I don't know when it hit you. I don't know how old it was when the feeling of hip-hop hit you niggas.

SPEAKER_06:

But you know what I'm talking about. It was like entering into a new world.

SPEAKER_07:

What the fuck is these niggas talking about, bro? How are they putting words together like this and they rhyme?

SPEAKER_05:

Putting these stories together, fucking the words, making it melodic, doing anything.

SPEAKER_06:

Y'all never gonna get me to turn my back on hip hop unless these niggas start doing wild stuff that I you and you know the wild stuff I'm talking about. I'm not talking about having a wife that's 13 years younger or older than you.

SPEAKER_05:

That ain't that ain't that wouldn't make you turn your back on hip hop, that make you turn your back on those artists. Hip hop as a culture, as a genre, that's that's stapled.

SPEAKER_06:

Certain amount of fuck niggas doing a certain amount of things. Like it can't be I can't it can't be Jay-Z bad, Eminem bad, everybody who nice, bad people, like wicked people, I'm cool on hip hop.

SPEAKER_05:

I would only say I could only take I could only hold that to hip hop is if that goes all the way back to the forefathers of hip-hop. If if that if you could if you could trace, I don't I don't know, as far as I know, I don't want to start there. I don't want to start. Big Daddy King don't got no smud on his name.

SPEAKER_06:

That's why I want to start with our legends, but we don't have to get into it.

SPEAKER_05:

That's what I'm saying. So as as far as as long as them niggas, like if we can't go that far back in every then hip hop will always be a staple to me.

SPEAKER_06:

That'll never go away. Now, as far as the artists, they could come and go. The individual artists, they could come and go, but hip hop as I mean maybe it'll be ruined for me. It's rare to be 44 and be like, yo, I really like this 18-year-old.

SPEAKER_05:

Um yeah, I don't I don't I don't even I'm I'm missing it.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm basically saying hip-hop would be ruined for me because everybody that I like.

SPEAKER_05:

You mean an 18-year-old artist?

SPEAKER_06:

You mean an 18-year-old artist? I was I was lost. I didn't know what we was lost. I was lost. Got you. We're not doing that, we're not doing that. All right. So, oh, and I'm starting the podcast with a different song because shoutouts to my fucking dog, Leon Thomas, cleaned up at the Grammys. Got two, right? That's enough. Yeah, nah, for sure. One of them was like RB album of the year. Uh we'll look it up, but nah, he cleaned up.

SPEAKER_05:

And that that that nigga came a long way. This nigga was on Nickelodeon when we was kicking up.

SPEAKER_06:

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_05:

This nigga grown man winning Grammys. That's lit.

SPEAKER_06:

If y'all never heard of him, I'm putting you on. If you never heard of him, where the fuck you been? I mean, it's be under niggas be listening to drill all day. Stop playing with him, y'all. And we talking about he becoming golden in this RB shit. Classic, classic style and sound you called. No weird Nickelodeon shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Talking to you, I don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_05:

Some good RB. Like give you a something early nineties, two thousands food. Pussy this, pussy that I'm trying to do.

SPEAKER_01:

I know. Bible scriptures on your left eye, verses you don't really live by. That's right.

SPEAKER_07:

Bible scriptures on your left eye. Versus you don't really live by. All she does is work. Fuck. Uber eats and get high.

SPEAKER_06:

But still, listen, y'all, but still.

SPEAKER_01:

Never with a flyer coach made, never with a flyer coach babe. Spain is hungry on a vote. I'm a vocal coach for the country.

SPEAKER_06:

Still throwing the masculinity in there.

SPEAKER_07:

My ears are sensitive when I ask. Tell me it's mine. So when I don't wanna hear nothing else. How about you, Chris?

SPEAKER_01:

Every day, COVID looking crossing. Can't you can't blame her? She bugs, but I can't explain her.

SPEAKER_06:

This game in these RB souls. Young and Miami.

SPEAKER_07:

I can't blame her. Young and pretty. Can't tame her, bro. I'm like a fool. Illusion of control. It'll be a puppet. It'll be me with a puppet head controlling her. But she'll have a bigger head. I'm a focal coach.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh-oh, mashups. We got mashups. We got mashups.

SPEAKER_01:

Ask you easy, but say ask it. I'm about to touch it off.

SPEAKER_06:

Come on, man. Come on, man. Shout out to Leon Thomas, man. If you do not know, now you do know, man. Round of applause to this guy, man. Young man. And all of his live performances are fire, along with the album. You got the Grammy shut up? Got it right here. Big four. Uh, Song of the Year was Billy Eilish. Record of the year, Kendrick and Scizor, Luther. Don't play with Ken Dot. Tap in the episode. The Kendrick bias. Tell you how much we fuck with him. Album of the year, Bad Bunny. Nothing you can do with that. Best new artist. I feel Leon Thomas was dropped here, but Olivia Dean won. I don't know who that is. She fired her. Little cute little young joint that got up there crying. That's the one. Gotcha. She she definitely of age, right? Yeah, yeah. All right, cool. Yo, time out. That white joan, Sabrina Carpenter, what's her name?

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Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Woo!

SPEAKER_07:

That white flesh was looking good. It was looking mighty good. Master. That white flesh was looking mighty good, Master. Whoa.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. She yeah, anyway. Clips. The clips got uh best rap performance uh for change and whips, Kendrick on their joint too. What is performance? Like just the level of skill that was displayed, I guess. Good job, y'all. Whatever that was, whatever that, y'all got y'all nailed that one.

SPEAKER_05:

The best melodic rap performance, Kendra, uh Kendrick and Scissor for Luther.

SPEAKER_06:

So so Kendrick haters, are they just giving him these? Well, they gave him another one. Best rap song. Turn the TV off, Kendrick and Lefty Gun. That's his last one he got. No. Best rap album. Okay. K N X. Kendrick. I just wanted to know the one that tied Hove and the one that put him over Hove.

SPEAKER_05:

Those last two.

SPEAKER_06:

Most Grammys ever for a hip hop artist. 26. We're going to be on some music shit today. Music, trades, uh Bro. So God damn, keep going? That's all that's pretty much all of them? Uh we can still got the RB. Kaylani cleaned up.

SPEAKER_05:

Best RB performance. Best RB song. Uh, here's where Leon won. Best RB album. Best of African music was Tyler.

SPEAKER_06:

I ain't gonna lie, yo. Side note real quick, audience. Tab in real quick. Listen, Chris. There's a nigga who ruined. Folded for me. Oh man.

SPEAKER_05:

Don't say that.

SPEAKER_06:

So, yo, people, I ain't gonna say his name. So, people, there was this dude in Redden. Oh, okay. I thought you were gonna be able to get a big thing. He got exposed. No, not Max B. He got exposed or whatever. Some gay nigga exposed him from New York. And he had photos of them or videos of them in the club hugged up. But you know, this the dude he got videos of is from Redden and it's supposed to be low-key. Nigga made a whole reel and shit like that.

SPEAKER_07:

But he had him in the club with his arms wrapped around him, talking about it's so silly of me. That's crazy when you're fighting homophobia. So every time I think of Kalani folded, I think of it's so silly of me to think. Because I cried on that part, because you know, I'm real psychological.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I don't think that I don't think they the lyrics had anything to do with what they was doing.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, okay. Was that the song playing in the club or was that the club?

SPEAKER_07:

Yes. And they hold like he the the one nigga fighting it holding the the the actual gay nigga sticking his thing. Thank you. That's how I cried when I first seen it. Because I'm like, yo, you really fighting it. Cause you know how you in the club and you write the lyrics. Like, let's say if you just order two bottles, and in the club, they like there's a song that's like we just ordered two. You get two bottles! You start singing it with the song. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Yo. But ruined it for me. Uh it's art imitating life or it's life imitating art.

SPEAKER_05:

And that it's this y'all. I'm crying.

SPEAKER_06:

Listen, you know what I think. Um, but let's get back to the Grammys. Uh shout out to Kalani. You know what Fold it was about, y'all. Folder was a fucking banger.

SPEAKER_07:

Because before that incident, real quick, I I I remember when I heard this song, I always thought of leave me at the the bridge, the best part. Every time I thought of the song, I thought of the best part.

SPEAKER_06:

Now niggas ruined it. I'm crying. Niggas ruined it. That was funny as fuck. Well, live your truth. Yes, bro.

SPEAKER_07:

But he was good because he was he's with the person he loved. Because when you with the person you love, nothing matters. Listen, man. Love is love. I don't really.

SPEAKER_06:

Nah, love always wins. Thank you. Sounds like Chris is trying to make it seem like I'm being sarcastic, but if you really listen to me, you know I mean what I say. What was you saying, Chris, about the RB category?

SPEAKER_05:

Uh nah, yeah, that was it. Uh K-Lani got two of them things. Leon Thomas, best RB album. And those Mr. Grammys we really care about.

SPEAKER_06:

All that other shit. What's that?

SPEAKER_07:

Fabrina ain't get nothing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06:

I see how she did, bro. Which what would she be? She would be in pop. Sure, she's like a pop artist. Because when y'all black women talking about something, don't deal with white women. I hope y'all not talking about the ones that look like that. I hope y'all talking about like the fat ones.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't see your I don't see her women nothing. Looks like she lost a lady gaga or some shit.

SPEAKER_06:

Alright, we'll we on that. We're gonna address uh well shout out to everybody who actually won a Grammy. Um it felt like the Grammys did the right thing this year, got shit right.

SPEAKER_05:

Did you see any of the performances uh at the Grammys?

SPEAKER_06:

No, I ain't watched none of the performances, but I don't I don't really think niggas be watching the Grammys like that anymore. I just feel like it's in that same basket. At least at least for me. The same basket that the All-Star Game and the Pro Bowl. Niggas ain't really watching that no more. Oh, that shit definitely lost its lost its luster. Like them shit used to mean something. They were they used to be events. Now, what did get value since then, I feel like, and they gotta tighten it up a little more from my point of view, the production, but the verses, the Mike Will versus versus the Hitboy versus, I think that joint was all that. Just to see how many songs each of them took part in, crazy to me. Do you like I kind of like the producer versus uh I think a little bit more than the artist versus because there's so much shit that you don't really know these niggas be on.

SPEAKER_05:

And it be seeming like like with an artist, when when you headline artists, okay, I pretty much know the catalog, I know what they're coming with, pause. But with a producer, it's like yours.

SPEAKER_06:

Can't predict it. Yeah, like damn. Oh, you you think you know, you know some of their big songs, and then this nigga will pull out a card, you like, wait, he did this too? And it's there'd just be all types of shit. You like, yo, is he is he gonna go with when it's producers, you like, is he gonna go with this? Is he gonna go with this? Is he gonna go with this? But when it's an artist, it's like nigga, he better go with this in this order. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05:

It's a little easier to predict, but with the producers, it's like they can them niggas could go anywhere. They could be pulling songs out of left field, being a fucking RB hit bag, fucking big hip hop rap, smash hits bag. Like they could take it anywhere.

SPEAKER_06:

Now, if you do like music, still on music, we'll just give you a couple rounds. Um give me five numbers, Chris. Just to give y'all an example of. Oh, we'll just give me five random numbers, and I'm gonna give five random rounds. Six. Alright, let's start six. Alright, so six, Mike Will made it did body part by Sierra, and he went up against Beyonce. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, got it. Sorry. Alright, another number. Oh what'd they start off with? One. What was the first one? One. I knew he was gonna do one. Uh Mike will made it had humble with Kendrick. Sit down. As an opening song to a fucking versus is nasty. Oh bitch. Yeah. Versus though. Wow. Freestyle with J-Rock featuring Kendrick. That was good, right? That's a good joke. Let's be with that bullshit, ain't it that Joe?

SPEAKER_07:

I'll be blacking out with the tourists.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, but I don't like I don't like the matchup. If he starts with a Kendrick, you can't do a Kendrick drone, too. You gotta come with something different.

SPEAKER_06:

They was in the West Coast. Only one of them's from the West. So that's like asking Mike Will made it not to do future songs.

SPEAKER_05:

Yo, listen, he started the drone. That's cool. But as Hitboy, you gotta come with something different.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know if Mike Will made it. I forgot if he started. He wasn't first. I thought you just said that. No, I'm telling you the order of it, but I'm not saying that was round one. But I I forgot who went first. Got you, got you. But that round, Hitboy also played backseat freestyle by Kendrick. Martin had a dream.

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M.

SPEAKER_05:

Jones is bangers.

SPEAKER_06:

That's a good tie round.

SPEAKER_05:

M Jones is bangers. Yeah, I could definitely call that a tie. Because humble hits on another level.

SPEAKER_06:

Alright, I gotta go to round two real quick, real quick. Round two, Michael made it bout shit by future. Nigga, you ain't about shit. Versus Wayback by Travis Scott. You know, that's my shit. I can't get no. We in the house. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

I like that song more, but as far as the as far as the verses and we setting the tone off the end.

SPEAKER_06:

Bell shit. Bow shit. But the Wayback's a better song. Way better song. Way better song. All right, another number. And people, these are the rounds of the verses. He's just giving out random numbers because I don't want to go over every uh let's get toward that now. We can wrap this up. Last two rounds. Mike will made it, did formation by Beyonce.

SPEAKER_05:

You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06:

Versus Hitboy doing flawless by Beyonce.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, when like that's what I'm saying. When y'all niggas is pulling out the records by the same artist, it gets kind of tough to it gets tough to call it. That's the best.

SPEAKER_07:

That's the best round for me. Because it's like, who got the better Beyonce song? That's that's that makes it fair.

SPEAKER_06:

I see what you're saying, but nah. Alright.

SPEAKER_05:

I guess right there I'm going formation now.

SPEAKER_06:

That's Mike Will made it then.

SPEAKER_05:

Which one was flawless?

SPEAKER_06:

I woke up flawless.

SPEAKER_07:

I woke up like this.

SPEAKER_06:

That's a bigger that to me. I can't say it's bigger because formation was big as shit. She did formation at the Super Bowl. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Ooh. It was a whole tour. It was a whole formation tour. They was going crazy. Ooh. But that flawless is Beyonce though. You see what I'm saying? It's like, what are we arguing here? Y'all both got a Beyonce record. Great for y'all. I don't know which one. It's Beyonce. We're not about to sit here and nitpick.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh shit. I ain't even do the last two, but I'm going to do. Oh, this is crazy. Alright. The last round. Because I'm going to do round 16 and 18 just to end it. So let's do 16. Ray Shrumman, no type.

SPEAKER_05:

And shout out to them. They're my niggas. Mike will pull them. They're my niggas. They fire.

SPEAKER_06:

Versus Drop the World.

SPEAKER_03:

Lil Wayne featuring Eminem. Drop the World is crazy. I see what he did there.

SPEAKER_06:

But again, for a versus. I want to hear that. I want to hear that. Alright, and then we got the last round. Mike Will made it. Did Rake It Up. Yo Gotti featuring Nikki.

SPEAKER_03:

He lost this round. Bad.

SPEAKER_06:

Nigga, the nigga ended with Mercy and niggas in Paris. Yeah, yeah. Alright, I knew, I knew he had niggas in Paris. Yeah, he got it. I feel like it was when I watched it, I thought Mike will wash this nigga.

SPEAKER_05:

When you go back over to track list, what do you think?

SPEAKER_06:

Ty. Damn. Ty for sure. Cause I can't go by energy of the crowd. Cause even me, I know Flawless is a great song, but what do you want me to do in the fucking crowd? I woke up like I'm not gonna be in the crowd talking about flawless. I'm not even gonna do that at home.

SPEAKER_05:

So what you gonna do in formation? Come on. Nothing formation. You know. See?

SPEAKER_06:

See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying? But shout out to uh, you know, Hitboy and Mike will made it. As far as um how the verses looked and shit, like what do you think they still need to do to perfect that craft? We'll give them a solid number of songs that they know they're doing. Don't make everybody have a performance, only make artists perform. What you mean? Like the one with Neo and Jonte on live was fire.

SPEAKER_05:

I was about to say, and that was my next question. What was some of your favorite?

SPEAKER_06:

Um Neo and Jonte was one of the best ones to me. And the locks versus I think I locks first dip set.

SPEAKER_05:

That was a good junk. I think um, I think they gotta keep it simple. Like the Gucci and Jeezy jump was a great junk. Both of them niggas on stage. We playing our slaps, we doing that.

SPEAKER_06:

Like just that setup alone makes it, I mean, it feels more competitive, more like a versus. But that's good for them. For who? Gucci and G. Like I'm saying, that whole stage and that look, I just feel like they gotta do something different every time to make certain things work. Like two niggas. Like I said, I'm going back to the Jonte and the Neo one. We were just impressed by the songs that niggas had in the top. That one was big, and that was on Instagram Live. Niggas will watch that on YouTube.

SPEAKER_05:

Like with this one, um even like with the producer battles, I more want to see y'all niggas like this is why I'm saying, like the energy of the crowd type shit. It kind of means something, especially with the producers. I want to see both y'all niggas up there behind, like the DJ producer type behind y'all shit, playing your slaps, mixing it right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're putting on a performance for this arena full of motherfuckers. We got in front of the show.

SPEAKER_06:

Everybody not a DJ. That's what I'm saying. You should just be able to walk up the niggas like, yo, my 10 songs versus your 10 songs, and just play them. I feel you. Like, even if it's like 10 videos, like not because everybody don't got videos for their tough songs, but if it was a video joint, I play my 10 videos, or we go video for video and let the crowd rock out like a real concert. I like that idea. You know what I mean? Like, put our videos on the screen. We up here performing to our videos, or go back and forth. I mean, you could do this with artists, but like I said, producers, they gotta change it. Like it this even started from Swiss and Just Blaze.

SPEAKER_05:

And that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm thinking of them Swiss and Just Blaze behind the fucking turntable. But they're both DJs.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, I feel like every producer should have like get your fucking laptop. Not no more. I ain't even saying turntape. Just get your setup, get your laptop, play your smacks, and fucking blint, like put a performance on, bro. Like, yeah, but I'm saying how if you're not a DJ, you gotta have a DJ ear.

SPEAKER_05:

Nigga, you a producer. You know what good music sounds like.

SPEAKER_06:

Like that's different than mixing. And knowing that this song is tied to this song, especially if you make an original music.

SPEAKER_05:

I see what you're saying, but nah. Come on, dog. You gotta put it on the case. I'm gonna be able to do it. Because if you if the if you one of them niggas and I got this other nigga on the other side you you washed.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay, I guess I'm up 50-60 million. You're right. With residuals coming in every month. I guess I washed, right, Chris? You gonna let a nigga tell you you washed.

SPEAKER_05:

We talk about in the in the sense of the verses, nigga. Yes.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't care about what youth is. Yes, learn how to DJ youth. All the niggas who just up off a beat making, keep doing you, player. That's not what I'm saying, but you see what I'm all right. I know what you're saying. You basically telling niggas learn the art.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes and no, because it do what works for you. But I'm saying if you enter in that field, then the nigga on the other side, like it's a verse, this is a fucking competition. So I guess don't come to don't step in that arena. You better fucking verse one of them niggas who only do what you do. But as far as that, if one nigga is on one side can has more in his bag than up, then what are we doing here?

SPEAKER_06:

Because do you think Swiss Beast is fucking nigga up in the producer's joint?

SPEAKER_05:

Who?

SPEAKER_06:

Because yes, Swiss Swiss will catch bodies up there. Who? Yo, he played that unreleased. What was it? Just DMX. Like, what are we talking about? Like who else wasn't on there, too? Oh man, I don't even remember. I remember it was Hov and DMX. Sorry guys, gotta bring out the phone. Like, yeah. So that's what I'm yeah, and then even that's cool. When you're playing something unreleased like that, that's Max. But bro, I don't think the unreleased music really works unless you're playing something to the magnitude that's gonna go off. Like you just waiting for the nigga album. I just know when I heard DMX's.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I'm about to say DMX about to come on on this joint. That's why I forgot Nas was even around.

SPEAKER_06:

I think that song's oh, and Jadakiss is on it too. I think the song's called Bath Salt.

SPEAKER_05:

DMX on the song called Bath Salt is insane. Alright, man. That's crazy because I was just running, I was just listening to um To It's Dark and Hell is Hot the other day.

SPEAKER_06:

Gold it. Uh I asked Chris this on the phone. Should I ask him now? Depends on how I answer. Why do you think having a girl makes you more wanted about other girls?

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I don't know.

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I do not know.

SPEAKER_06:

You know what I think it is? I thought about this. I said, She probably got a nigga who's not taking care of her. I just said, bitch, see what you're doing for your girl and want that for themselves. Even if it's a portion. I think that's what it is. Or it could be, like I said on the phone, niggas got a different smell when they got a girl. Did you say it was the pheromones? Pheromones, for real. It's just something where they like, nigga got a bitch. I want to ruin that. I want to ruin that is insane. What else you wanna call it? Yeah, yeah. That was that was an attack. On who? Not them, but I felt attacked by the question a little bit. I felt ambushed. Hit dog gonna holler, man. You know we had this conversation on the phone randomly.

SPEAKER_07:

Listen, man, we really had this conversation on the phone yesterday. And I literally said, dang, I'm gonna bring this to the podcast.

SPEAKER_05:

I ain't hear that part.

SPEAKER_07:

That's weird now.

SPEAKER_05:

I swear I ain't hear that part. That's why I just said ask me the question, depending on how I answered.

SPEAKER_06:

Let's just move on to brow. My answer on the phone probably wasn't even podcast worthy, but it probably was. And that's just, I'm fake, y'all. All right, all right. Next question. Why do people buy weed like it's crack?

SPEAKER_05:

What you mean?

SPEAKER_06:

Why every time people buy weed? No, they need it now. Cause I can always wait on whoever I'm getting weed from for like hours.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, Ellen you're not trying to wait. I don't know, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_06:

What do niggas do? Buy weed when they run out? Because I know I do that when I don't or when I didn't have money.

SPEAKER_05:

That's why that's why I thought you that's why I thought you was going to like they gonna nickel and dime, get their 10, 20, whatever they need up, and spend that at a time.

SPEAKER_03:

You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

They gonna even even like honestly, even when I don't have or didn't have the proper bread, I didn't buy weed like that. I would be mad if I had to wait outside your house. Like if you tell me pull up and I gotta like wait after the time you tell me, that's annoying, you know? Yeah. But it's not like it's not like yo, if I hit your phone, I need you to pull up right now or let me come pull up on you right now. It'd be like this. This is what gets me. It's like, if I can't get a hold of you in the next 20, 30 minutes, I'm going somewhere else. So why do niggas need weed that bad? Because that has nothing to do with money at that point. Cause you have the money. You think it's just because they want the access?

SPEAKER_05:

I mean, maybe niggas just have that's they time that they have allotted to smoke in the next hour or two and they they need to get high at that time.

SPEAKER_06:

It's like, yo, I got two hours before I need to go to work. I got this dub, I want to get high before work. I'm hitting this nigga, he's not answering the phone. I gotta go somewhere else. Unless I'm not getting high before work. Maybe it's something like that.

SPEAKER_05:

But and it's and it's just because weed is too accessible. I don't have to wait on you. I know I can find somebody else. No, you can.

SPEAKER_06:

You can, but I'm saying, why do niggas need it now?

SPEAKER_05:

Anything other than the example I just gave, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06:

Alright, alright. Because I could wait for some weed, whatever. Like, it ain't you know. Oh, this is what I'm saying. Why don't niggas buy weed have niggas buy toilet paper?

SPEAKER_03:

You think niggas don't be running out of toilet paper? Like regularly.

SPEAKER_06:

Do you think niggas don't run out of toilet paper? What do you do then? Take a shower. I would hope so. Grab the roller paper towels. Yeah, let's move on. Yeah, something I mean. Oh yeah, and um any young niggas listening, don't get caught up in the facade of you thinking you and your friends, the people you really want to go on vacation, are gonna go anywhere. It's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, and I just thought of the dancer real quick. You know what niggas do when they run out, they'll run in the bathroom about take shit. Oh shit, I gotta run to the store right now for toilet paper. The same way they do weed.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay. That's that's a lifestyle. We'll just call that a lifestyle at that point.

SPEAKER_05:

All right, what you just say about the vacation shit though?

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, I was just telling the young niggas that because that's a lifestyle. I'm I I can't, it's not like if you wanna get everything last minute, all right. Uh all right. I don't wait till I'm eating the last gristle on my chicken to get another pack of chicken. I know I'm getting chicken. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, or I have to wait till I have money for chicken. But if I have money for chicken, I should just get the chicken. But whatever. Um, that's how I think, anyways. But like I said, young niggas, uh just go by yourself or go with a girl, or those are the fastest ways to go on vacation. Because if you're waiting for your niggas, your broke ass friends, it's not gonna happen, especially if you're under 25. Somebody's gonna need something that's gonna irritate somebody.

SPEAKER_05:

I said fuck around and run. You might get there, but your trip, not going through. You can ruin your trip. Not going think what it's about to be with your ruin your trip.

SPEAKER_06:

Niggas will come out of town with you and not have enough money for food. So, like I said, think about it. Go with your girl, go with a girl, or go by yourself. And do not adopt the passport brothers mentality. These bitches are women, and women are bitches everywhere. Doesn't change. You you think it's gonna change and it's not. She's gonna call you good names and sweet names and milk you. No Diddy for every dollar.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, that's a that's a that's their job. Oh, yeah. I mean, you when you're a passport, bro, and that's what you're doing.

SPEAKER_06:

I hope you know that's what you're getting yourself into. Poppy, I need a new phone. You're gonna buy a phone the first week. You're gonna act hard on these bitches in America. Go out there and buy a phone the first week.

SPEAKER_07:

No, it's fine, it's just a little cricket.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, cricket here is$30 too.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't care how much you yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

So, yeah. Sorry, passport bros. And it ain't because I can't go. I've been I've been to these places, all the nasty ones, too. But uh why would I lie?

SPEAKER_05:

Yo.

SPEAKER_06:

All right, let's get to Bro Rilla versus Glow Rilla.

SPEAKER_05:

Why you call her Bro?

SPEAKER_06:

You see how she looked? You never seen Glorilla's sister yet?

SPEAKER_05:

Nah, I never seen her. I just see the messages.

SPEAKER_06:

She lik. Huh? She looks like AI. Alan Iverson? Artificial intelligence.

SPEAKER_03:

All right. All right, pull up her back. I need to see. Oh shit. What is she?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know how the fuck you get your next meeting. Take it back out of all the wall. We try to see how the water. She don't hold us here. Oh, she always everybody, but we wasn't eating. But motherfucker ain't obligated. But you want to get on interviews and talk about the struggle. You want to talk about the struggle. But you ain't you ain't one of us, ain't one of us shining food. Ain't one of us shining. You got everybody else in this hole. You giving money out, you bring your motherfuckers back around, you getting it cross, you badly consensus while you get your ass beat. Oh God, while you get your ass sold, man. I remember when Clear did this shit. She washed you. And you brought her back around. And she went live about you. And you brought her back around. She on the stage with you. How the fuck? How the fuck is that for her?

SPEAKER_05:

Let them know what you mean.

SPEAKER_00:

The clear that brought her. Y'all. Yeah, good thing. Clear the van. Clear the van. But you got Sanchez back around you. Like, bruh, you know, you know, I'm just saying, a motherfucker come out for Haiti, bro. It's been four motherfucking years, bruh. It's been four years. Then I'm gonna see motherfuckers like, no, no, bro. Then my mama said her in this whole struggle. She bought a house. She did not buy my mama no motherfucking house. Stop. She did not. She bought my daddy a house with his trick ass. She bought, and then he got the smallest house on the block. That man retired on his own time, but she didn't retire. She hold on. And now y'all, y'all know what Gloss did. How did she get mine? So look, all of us been struggling. We was homeschool. All of us laying in the same house.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm already on Glow side.

SPEAKER_05:

Cause how's she talking? Or what or in her platform she chose to speak her mind?

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I know that that that was. What y'all don't know, she lost her job a couple weeks ago. Glorilla's sister. Oh called her Bro Rilla. I'm crying. Yeah, no, she don't look like she's like a standard stud. Like a fucking creative player. She was basically saying that in another video, she said Glorilla's dad just borrowed$100 from their mom. The mom still work at FedEx or UPS, something like that. Um Glorilla just posted. Yeah, what big Glow say, y'all? She posted a text message, but somebody said, we're the time and the date. Oh, they were fakes? I don't know. But this is what the message says. Thank you so very, very much. Really didn't want to ask because you already did so much for us. I thank you so very, very much for all that you do. I don't take it for granted at all. I really do love and appreciate you so very much. God bless you for your honor, respect, kindness, and love shown to me. You're such a blessing to me. When I become a millionaire, I got you. Meanwhile, I'll pray. I'll this ain't on me, y'all. This is not on me. Meanwhile, I'll prayerfully keep you in God's hands continually.

SPEAKER_03:

Prayfully?

SPEAKER_05:

How you gonna give how you gonna give the millionaire money when you become a millionaire?

SPEAKER_06:

Then she said, then the sister also said, because I don't feel like playing all this shit for you, the sister also said that Glover got like a brother that lived with her, but he fucked up too, because he just asked the mom for$40 last week. But I just looked at that as pre-he probably blew all the money. Glow. It sounded like niggas is over there blowing her money.

SPEAKER_05:

And Glow not having it no more.

SPEAKER_06:

And she's cool because her man is up. Oh yeah. That's what it really sounded like.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh no, like it sounded like she was giving them bread, and Glow had to cut them off at one point.

SPEAKER_06:

Cause like, yo, look, money getting not money getting low, but I ain't got it to keep giving y'all niggas. Y'all wanna shine. Then she got with BI getting that bag done. Yeah, I probably told her I've been going through this since I was 18. Yeah, facts. So this ain't about nothing though.

SPEAKER_05:

And like I said, she got man brothers and sisters. Don't she got like 13 brothers and sisters?

SPEAKER_06:

10.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, bro. Come on.

SPEAKER_06:

Y'all really gotta see Bro Rilla. Like she looked like a 2K player. Yeah. Mixed with Manny Fresh. Mixed with somebody we know from Reddit, but I don't want to say his name because I'll fuck with him, y'all. Don't say it, right, Chris?

SPEAKER_05:

That's on you, man.

SPEAKER_06:

Nah. He knows that he's saying when he says it's on me. I mean, say it in his world.

SPEAKER_05:

If you if you want to.

SPEAKER_06:

Alright, man. Well, I I would just say that that I just think that's corny. You know she's begging. You know if Lorella gave her 10, 15 bands a month, she would not be posting nothing on here. I mean, at the end of the day, go outside, go do something, man. Go sell some water ice or some pretzels or something.

SPEAKER_05:

Like a fucking job.

SPEAKER_06:

Or start rapping or do something, but motherfuckers gotta stop begging out here, man. And stop acting like you're entitled to motherfuckers' money.

SPEAKER_05:

Bagging probably take more energy than it do to the work circuit.

SPEAKER_06:

Take a lot of mental energy when motherfuckers be figuring out how to ask for this and ask for that. I know how niggas do that. That's why I refuse to think like that. I gotta just ask directly or leave it alone because it'll just fuck with my mind. It really will. Like, dang, you start to wait for the perfect time for a nigga you think he's gonna say yes, nope. I'm good for that. That'd be the worst time. I'm good for that. The times you think I'm gonna say yes or something, I'll turn on you.

SPEAKER_07:

Real fucking fast. You bet Chris will tell you, I'll just turn. You don't know. You never know. You don't know when to need something from me. I'm human. Oh my.

SPEAKER_06:

Sometimes I'm like, sure. I'll do that twice. Sometimes I'm like, yo, fuck no, yeah. No. Don't ask me again. I don't really mean that. Don't ask me this ever again. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07:

This nigga is gonna be hell, y'all. Woo! That's why I'm building this catalog. Cause it's gonna be no way you motherfuckers is gonna be able to stop us. I'm telling you how this shit works. You're not gonna be able to stop us. Oh my god. This nigga is hell. I'm setting all this shit up to be timeless.

SPEAKER_06:

Something you can listen back to. You're not really attached to the times. Now, for this next portion of our conversation, I wouldn't call this part as timeless because we get into the fucking sports, bro. Like at the end of the day, we dogs. This one's just all for the dogs. I love you women. I'll get to y'all next week or the week after. It's Valentine's Day next week, so I might ask a few women out there their experiences here.

SPEAKER_05:

Shooting up my pockets, pause. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Golly. That's gonna cost.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

That's what I was talking about.

SPEAKER_06:

And this, yeah, this Valentine's Day seems like it's gonna be expensive for niggas. They're gonna run niggas down. Listen, bro. I don't got no girl, but listen to me when I tell you this. This year is make or break a bitch year, okay? If you have a bitch, you ain't got the funds, bro, and you really don't got the funds. Get her some flowers, good$25, and write her a letter. This nigga spit. With like how much you fuck with her. Like, I ain't gonna say love because I cause I know you niggas really don't. But if you love her, write how much you love her. I'm saying everybody don't love who they with. Some people fuck with who they with, and then you know what I mean? I don't want to use the word strong word love. Niggas gonna start thinking about marriage and all that, and I'm not talking to you either. But write her a nice little letter.

SPEAKER_07:

I looked at my Gmail the other day. I said, dang these bitches loved me. I see, I see a whole little, I see a whole little love letters written to me. Oh, this nigga was emailing. It was with songs at the end. You know how in our description I put the song, first song at a song. What's Trey Songs? Heartbeat. If I lose you, I'm afraid I'm saying And I keep my like anybody wanna know my business.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, I keep my birthday cards. All the bitches who really love me and wrote me something sweet, I keep my birthday cards in my car. Yo, we definitely do too. Oh my god. And two dollar bills for good luck.

SPEAKER_07:

Sig a fucking menace.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, this is serial killer shit, yo.

SPEAKER_07:

You think so?

SPEAKER_06:

Yes, yeah. But yeah, back to what I'm saying, niggas. Like, write, write, write her a letter, y'all. I'm telling you, you'll win. And don't make it sound chat GPT E.

SPEAKER_05:

Damn, bro. Not you giving out too much.

SPEAKER_06:

No, write it in your language. That they know that sauce. That ain't sauce.

SPEAKER_05:

Chat GPT talk like that.

SPEAKER_06:

Be writing back to niggas how they write the chat GPT. If your chat, if you trained your AI to be that good, what how can I stop you? What can I do? If your AI knows how to talk like you, you could.

SPEAKER_05:

I tell a nigga, yo, yo, cook this up like you as me, bro.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, write a letter.

SPEAKER_05:

You see how I be typing misspelling shit, put throw all that shit in there, bro.

SPEAKER_06:

Or make her a PowerPoint.

SPEAKER_05:

Like, yo, again with the PowerPoint. What's going on? Wow.

SPEAKER_06:

Bro, I'm trying to take like, bro, we 35. All you gotta do is bring these bitches back in time. They PowerPoint.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh my god, puppy love. I remember my teacher used to do slide shows. I remember I created a slide show.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, he was really thoughtful. Pull out the uh what was that, June?

SPEAKER_06:

The projector. Or, or, see, he's giving me more ideas to cook. I can't wait to love a bitch properly. You get the overhead projector, you buy it, you put it on the ceiling. You get what I'm saying? You cook your girl a nice little steak like the Delmonico I just made. Maybe make it a little more medium. Well, you get what I'm saying? Uh-huh. Boom. Watch whatever she likes. I don't know. Uh the notebook, something up there, boom. Whatever she really likes. Put something on the ceiling. You're gonna watch baddies. Nope. You're gonna worse than that. But yeah, you get the projector's a nice move. You we we used to play the game on the projector back then. 100%.

SPEAKER_07:

You pull up, watch a movie, Netflix and chill on a projector. You got food in your crib, she's fucking.

SPEAKER_05:

Yo, ain't the all-star game gonna be on? Still a hood, nigga.

SPEAKER_06:

But these these were a lot, these were good ideas. And women, stop doing this type of shit for men. We don't give a fuck. I'm just no, seriously, Chris. We gotta tell him. We gotta tell him. We don't give a fuck. Stop putting all this effort into like, oh, let me be so thoughtful on the gifts. I want to know. Like, no, just get small things that you know we will want, but don't make that a gift. Give us the gift of shutting the fuck up. Give us the gift of controlling your emotions. Niggas want that more than they want any of that other stuff. Did I lie? Did I lie? Hit that button again, yeah. Fucking spittin'. Niggas said, control of them emotions. Yeah, give me that. Niggas would take that over gifts any day. Give me that. I'm on I'm gonna win all psychological warfare. Now, women, I got some jumps for you. Like I said, you don't I just wanna say you don't buy your man gifts in the same way you would want him to buy your gift. You buy him a gift to maybe make his life easier. He smoke in a car, get him a little cigarette cup holder or whatever. Don't even say nothing about it. Yo, I got here. Boom. Store it in the car. You could do that and never get niggas gifts. On a nigga's birthday, he just wants to be acknowledged and to get maybe five of those things to make his life more convenient. Now, depending on your man, he might want some sneakers. He might want a shirt, he might want to, but a lot of these type of men who like sneakers and like shirts and shit like that, trust me when I tell you, they're gonna make sure they have their own shit of those things. But they might not make sure they have the best face wash, the best toothpaste, the best toilet paper. I love dumb gifts. I know you do. That's what that's the shit I like. Like, yeah, but that's that's how I kind of like them convenience gifts. You know I gear my light to that.

SPEAKER_05:

Those be the ones.

SPEAKER_06:

I got a bed, I got an air fryer.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_07:

Shit I still got.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, and you're gonna have for forever. Forever. Forever, for a long ass time. And it's like you said, it's gonna always gonna make your life easier. So those are the things we love, women. I'm trying to tell you. Yo, real quick, uh, just off this Valentine's Day shit. Do you believe in that love language shit? Like, I ain't I don't want to fucking ask you if you but do you believe in that shit? Like, no. Oh, okay. I don't believe people, I believe people have favorite ones, but I believe we all need a nice healthy mix of all of them.

SPEAKER_07:

That's a good thing. Like, who wouldn't want all of them? No, I like physical touch. I hate acts of service. No, everybody likes acts of service. Everybody likes physical touch.

SPEAKER_06:

And depending on who the person is, that's what you identify with as love. It depends on the person.

SPEAKER_07:

Little ugly bitch, touch me. Get the fuck off me, bitch. Little bad bitch touch me. Damn, you love me.

SPEAKER_06:

It's worse for girls, because I'm lying. Like how I just explained bomb? Do I no, I don't. Uh I feel like I don't love bomb because I really be feeling that way. Gotcha. So does that count for anything?

SPEAKER_05:

Nah, cuz yeah, nah. I feel that.

SPEAKER_06:

And as far as like love bombing, I feel like on some love bomb shit. Oh, never mind, because I got an audience. There'll probably be girls in here. Did you love bomb before? Yo, I was looking at my DMs of this one jaw. Yeah. This nigga. Remember John's telling you about NASA, right? Uh-huh. So I went back in the DMs, bro. I was such a liar. Like, it wasn't like I was a liar. It was no, I kept it a hundred, but the way life turned out, I changed my mind.

SPEAKER_07:

I was like, yeah, man, I don't know why people ghost people. We should always be friends, da da da da da like that. Just for me to turn around a ghoster.

SPEAKER_03:

Solid. So I was looking at the message.

SPEAKER_06:

I was like, yo. But also in those messages was, oh, you can always change your mind. But when I read it, the context, it was like you could change your mind and let the person know so y'all can still be. Oh, you was playing both shots. Yeah, no, I had too much going on. That's the reality. Just didn't say that. Yeah, I should have, bro. I do. Van Moose, son of a. Alright, what do we do? But enough about me. Yeah.

unknown:

We got him, y'all.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh. So let's let's go to Bill Belichick being snubbed. Fucking haters. Out of the Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_05:

Well now we know not only Bill Belichick, but Robert Kraft too.

SPEAKER_06:

Give a fuck about no Robert Kraft.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm just saying because the narrative was Robert Kraft and niggas might have colluded to keep Bill Belichick out so he could get in on his own type shit. So they don't have to go in together on some weird shit, whatever the fuck that means.

SPEAKER_06:

But Bill Belichick not being in is It's ridiculous. Yeah. I don't even. Yeah. Now I think Drew Brees is in this one, ain't he? So you think Bill Belichick should go over Drew Brees? A thousand percent.

SPEAKER_03:

I mean Super Bowls, but Drew Brees got one.

SPEAKER_06:

What about Eli? Eli over Bill Belichick?

SPEAKER_05:

No.

SPEAKER_06:

He beat him twice.

SPEAKER_05:

And I still got eight Super Bowls.

SPEAKER_06:

Eight is nuts, because I got yeah. Yeah. This is the this is the finalist list. Will Anderson, Drew Brees, uh, Drari Evans, Larry Fitzgerald, Frank Gore, Tori Holt, Luke Keegley, Eli Manning, Terrell Suggs. And Adam. How many people get in? I was just about to ask that.

SPEAKER_05:

Is there a limit on how many people get in per year?

SPEAKER_06:

Adam Vinateri. And I think there's a limit. Damn. Because why would you leave Bill Belichick out if there wasn't a limit?

SPEAKER_05:

They were just trying to say off the cheating shit. Off the spy gate, the flake gate shit.

SPEAKER_06:

Reggie Wayne, Kevin Williams, Jason Witten, Darren Woodson, Marshall Yonder. Yeah, no, there can't be no limit. You can't leave some of these niggas off just because there's a limit of niggas that could get in. It's like five that I'm seeing that have to go. Luke Keegley, Eli Manning, Adam Vinateri, Reggie Wayne, Terrell Suggs, Drew Brees. These are all automatically. Darren Woodson? These are all automatic.

SPEAKER_05:

How is that nigga not already in the Hall of Fame? How is Terrell Suggs already not in the Hall of Fame?

SPEAKER_06:

Because he didn't.

SPEAKER_05:

How many years you gotta be retired before you?

SPEAKER_06:

Like five, six. I feel like Eli Manning should have been. No, bro. They retired later, like 2019. Like Terrell Suggs 2019. Uh Keegley, 2019. Okay. I mean Witten 2020. I guess I feel like I feel like it's been forever since some of these niggas play football. Breeze, 2020. And that's Drew Brees. So yeah, some of these niggas is been since 2019. I guess there gotta be a limit. It's a five year.

SPEAKER_05:

If some of these niggas been on the l out the league since 2019 and Drew Brees been out since 2020.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, because first ballot means you on there the first time you made it. Yeah, somebody got there gotta be a limit of niggas that could go in. Drew, they're saying the two locks is Drew Brees and Fitzgerald. Because 2020 is five years. It has to be five years, maybe six. Drew Brees, Fitzgerald's a lock. They said a pencil in is Keegley and another pencil in is Terrell Suggs and Jason Witten. Anyway, Bill Belichick not being in is a fucking travesty.

SPEAKER_05:

It's a sham. Niggas is haters. Niggas who vote in.

SPEAKER_06:

Alright. Did we give our Super Bowl predictions already?

SPEAKER_05:

I don't remember. I'm going with the Patriots, though.

SPEAKER_06:

So Seahawks blow out.

SPEAKER_05:

Blowout?

SPEAKER_06:

Blow out. Wash. You're not gonna get three good Super Bowls in a row. The job was last year. Y'all put out the belt the ass. On the Chiefs? How much y'all went by?

unknown:

What?

SPEAKER_06:

Nigga was 34-nothing before the biggest score. Oh yeah.

unknown:

What you talking about?

SPEAKER_06:

Oh yeah. Never mind. I'll take that back. I'll take that back. Alright, let's get to the NBA trades. Dunan. Dunan. Wanna start with the biggest one. Giannis not being traded. That's the biggest news. No trade for Giannis. Giannis is going nowhere. He's going to be injured for the rest of the year. Nah, he said he's not with that shit. He said he's playing if he's right. I believe him. All I need to hear is a nigga like that say it. He said it. He said that when he got hurt. I believe him. Say, yeah, I'm hurt for these four to six weeks, but when I'm right, I don't care where I'm at. I plan on playing. Ain't no shutting me down. Ain't none of that happening. Yeah, I'm on this side. But the Bucks, they need that, they need that pick. What pick? They're a draft pick.

SPEAKER_05:

They lottery pick. They about to be in the lottery. They need the top pick, especially if they plan on trading Giannis in the in the summer. No, bro. You're not about to play and fuck up our draft status and then still want to be treated.

SPEAKER_06:

You think Peterson can come right in and do some work? What? On the Bucs? What? What's work for a fucking rookie though? You see what LeBron did. You see what Cooper Cup is doing. What's work? Dub plus? Oh shit. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, nah.

SPEAKER_06:

All three of them top niggas could come in and score 20 easily, especially if they go into a trash ass team like that. Who's trash like that then now? Whichever one, well. Ain't nobody really trash no more. Let's keep talking about these trades. Alright, go ahead. Because I was about to say, I was about to say, whichever one of them niggas go to the Wizards, but the Wizards just got AD and Trey Young. Nah, Trey Young ain't played since he's been traded to the Wizards, so I don't know what they're gonna do with AD. But as far as they go, they looking at a top three pick. That's either uh Darren Peterson, A.J. DeBonsor, Cam Boozer.

SPEAKER_05:

The Hawks just traded some niggas and they still got a top pick.

SPEAKER_06:

And it's still a lottery, so. Yeah, anybody could still get a good pick. Right. Alright, so let's just keep going with the trades. Giannis not going nowhere.

SPEAKER_05:

Giannis not going nowhere.

SPEAKER_06:

James Harden traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Darius Garland. And that's it. In the second round pick. That's it. That was pretty much straight. I think that should work out for both teams.

SPEAKER_05:

Why do you think James wanted to leave the Clips?

SPEAKER_06:

Because he don't got no guaranteed money after that.

SPEAKER_05:

That's not true. He's not even eligible for an extension right now.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm saying after it's up, they probably not.

SPEAKER_05:

No matter what team, if he stayed with the Clippers or the Cavs, nobody could offer an extension for not even not even this summer.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I think that's a good thing. One team could offer him a little a little side deal. No, no, no. Championship. Oh, that's what he said. That's what he said. Yeah, he's at that point, bro. He's papered up. Brad got his kid. His son like 8-9 now. Maybe 10. Yeah, he you know what I mean? I'm with that. I like that from my boy. Like that. Uh other, there's still mad trades. Other trades. We got Luke Kennard for Gabe Vincent. The Lakers. I fucking that's a great trade. What else? It couldn't have been one for one. Yeah. Trading Gabe Vincent in the second round pick, too. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. And a second round pick. Go ahead. A 2032 second round pick. What it is. Uh Rob Dillonham going to Chicago for Ayu DeSumo. That's a good pickup for I think that's it both sides. He's gonna get some run in Chicago.

SPEAKER_05:

That's what I'm saying. That's all he ain't been getting no run in Minnesota today.

SPEAKER_06:

Gonna be a lockdown defender from Minnesota, bro. He a dog, bro. He's from Chicago.

SPEAKER_05:

I think, like I said, I think these moves that uh because the Timberwolves made a couple other small moves to free up some cap space. I think they're trying to get draw.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, shit. They got 50 minutes. Oh, yeah. Trade deadline today. Yeah, at three o'clock. Well, they better pull something off, man.

SPEAKER_05:

Because ain't nothing come across with that. Uh Porzingis is going to the Warriors for Kaminga.

SPEAKER_06:

Both teams win there too for me. Uh Kaminga and Buddy Hill are going to the Hawks. You get rid of a disgruntled player. You get rid of hit or miss Buddy Hilled. Definitely hit or miss, but he got. And you actually get a big because they gave away the other big that they had. Trace Jackson Davis C wasn't shit. I like, I like, I like Perzingis under a good offense. You see what he did with the Celtics? Uh the Sixers gave up Jared McCain to OKC.

SPEAKER_05:

I think that was a terrible move.

SPEAKER_06:

For what what type of pick?

SPEAKER_03:

Second round? Yeah. Yep. They probably just was gonna move him just to move him.

SPEAKER_05:

Something it was for the Sixers to get some fucking to get out of the luxury tax cap relief shit. Uh the second apron and all that. They're not in that no more because the Paul George got suspended, so his money became dead money, and they only had to get off uh a million-dollar contract or whatever. But they thought it was gonna be the rookie Johnny Brown, you know, the old nigga that used to play for Auburn. I why wouldn't they just cut him or move him out and keep McCain? McKay balled out. I I know what everyone got hurt, but give him time to get right.

SPEAKER_06:

Shout out to anybody who's listening who know them terms that Chris used.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, yeah, nah, man. I'll be on my best one.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, so I'm just saying I got the gist of it toward the end at your last sentence, but before that, I was lost. I heard second apron.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, they're not in the luxury tax no more.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, alright.

SPEAKER_05:

Uh Alonzo got traded from the Cavs to the Jazz.

SPEAKER_06:

Jazz about to put belt out.

SPEAKER_05:

They said Lonzo might be on the move out of there and on the way to Charlotte to go play with Melo.

SPEAKER_06:

Forget about, forget about. Oh, you said to talk about the Jazz period because they got another one. Yeah, they had another trick. They really saying Alonzo might go to the Hornets? Yeah. If him and Melo play together, bro. Who is it up? Yeah, Alonzo gonna come off the bench. Um, speaking of the Jazz, they got Jaron Jackson Jr. the other day. Banger. So they got him, Mark and Kessler. Yes. Ew. Kessler's hurt for the year, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

They can moving forward with Keontae George. Collier.

SPEAKER_07:

And a developer eight.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm about oh, damn. Development eight's barely. And they still projected to get a top ten pick at least. All you need is but their pick is it gotta be top is top eight protected. If they're not in the top eight, they pick go somewhere else.

SPEAKER_03:

I think to Memphis. They're gonna be top eight. Yeah. That was a good jump.

SPEAKER_05:

Uh they get so many more trades. Who else got traded?

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, just I'm looking for them right now. Bulls got uh the Bulls traded Nicola Vusevich to the Celtics for Anthony Simons. That's your man. Yeah, he's gonna be killing on the Bulls.

SPEAKER_05:

Bulls trying to all them shots you think Dylan has.

SPEAKER_06:

Um fucking Rob, Kobe White, Josh Gibbs. They traded. Where'd Kobe go? Look on your phone. I think he played for the Hornets.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, for Colin Sexton? Go look, bro. Somewhere. I don't see no Kobe White trade.

SPEAKER_06:

How many days ago was that one?

SPEAKER_05:

I said AD to the Wizards.

SPEAKER_06:

You didn't even say that yet. Oh, I thought I did when I said um Bulls sent Kobe White and Mike Conley to the Hornets for Colin Sexton and Osumain Diang. Jiang. So Kobe White gone. He's a bucket. Him, LaMello. That's a good replacement for Colin Sexton.

SPEAKER_05:

The Maverick traded AD, D'Angelo Russell, Jaden Hardy, and Dante X to the Wizards.

SPEAKER_06:

Jaden Hardy's gonna go crazy on the Wizards. Dallas got Chris Middleton, AJ Johnson, who's a piece. Look out for him, bro. Uh Malik Brandon, Marvin Bagley the third, and two first round picks and three second-round picks. Damn.

SPEAKER_05:

Trying to get some shit for Coop, man. Shout out to my boy Coop. Definitely won a rookie of the year now. Balling. 49, 30 followed up. It's out of here.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm thinking when, like, just to speak to Coop's greatness, I'm thinking when they got Coop, I'm like, yeah, they don't really, they're not gonna need Luca the way they need him. To get Coop and not need Luca or AD is crazy. I wouldn't say not need, but because it's not like they winning. I wouldn't say not need, but to be able that's a piece to have to move forward. Fran, Chise, player. For sure. Thousand percent. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05:

Thousand percent.

SPEAKER_06:

They got a new franchise. Thousand percent. Uh so yeah, and like you said, was there still 50 minutes to be to be uh are we missing any? I feel nah.

SPEAKER_03:

That was everything. Brandon McCain. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_06:

Bulls Bulls look like a loser of these of this trade. They look like they lost the trade.

SPEAKER_05:

They gotta what they wanted to do, fucking make the playing again? That's all they ever do is make the playing and get a shitty draft pick. Lose for real. Get a top pick and try to move forward. Don't got no fucking pieces over there.

SPEAKER_06:

This year I think they're taking care of niggas though.

SPEAKER_05:

Who? The NBA as far as the draft lineup?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I think the draft. No, I just think the draft is just the draft. I think they taking care of it.

SPEAKER_05:

So many fucking this is one gonna be one of the best draft classes ever.

SPEAKER_06:

Elijah just sit out.

SPEAKER_03:

This one. Wow. To go number one. Damn.

SPEAKER_05:

Is it guaranteed to go number one next year?

SPEAKER_06:

Damn there. I looked at the the the high school. Like, I don't think it's gonna be a uh a freshman going number one next year.

SPEAKER_05:

I mean, I like I like the I like the sounds of going number one, but if he comes out this year, like you said, he go to a team like us, team like the Spurs on the back end of the first round.

SPEAKER_06:

But it's money related.

SPEAKER_05:

What the fuck he needs money for?

SPEAKER_06:

Get to the league as quick as possible.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, Daddy Gilbert, what do you need money for?

SPEAKER_06:

Right. And he got his own NIL right now, probably. Cool. Get to the league, get better.

SPEAKER_05:

Because like I said, bro, we seen a nigga at 29. That shit look like the high school games. Nigga dribble around three niggas, get to the spot, pull up cash.

SPEAKER_06:

But it don't look like these other niggas 30. The other niggas 30 is disrespectful. That was only his fifth game. Who? I'm not saying I'm not I'm just saying behind. Look, that's all I'm saying. Wait, wait, because he wasn't dunking on niggas and shit? Because he was shooting that thing. No, he was shooting, but all to the rim a couple. All those niggas we talking about do everything. But so did he. He don't do everything. He don't dunk on niggas. No, he don't dunk on niggas. But he was, like I said, he was getting away. When the draft don't dunk on niggas right now.

SPEAKER_05:

Like I said, he was to the rim. He was, I mean, a couple layups here and there.

SPEAKER_06:

He was definitely shooting that thing. No, he got it. Just wait a year. Dribble, catch and shoot. Wait a year.

SPEAKER_07:

Come on, Chris.

SPEAKER_06:

For what? Going to college? It should look like high school, bro. Go to the league. I don't know yet. He got dominated, bro. The nigga went out there and bro. We watched the highlights. Niggas are getting 40 ton. There's niggas that score like 13 projections. I feel you. Like, is he better than the the rookie from Illinois? I mean the freshman from Illinois.

SPEAKER_05:

Who? Which one?

SPEAKER_06:

I forgot his name. He dropped like 43. I don't know. I gotta see. And if you watch him, it's like there's no way you'll see Elijah do all of that. I gotta see, bro.

SPEAKER_05:

Like I said, this is only a sift game.

SPEAKER_06:

Alright, how far is he away from Peterson?

unknown:

Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_06:

No, come on. And the monster. And the monster. I'm not saying he can't go number one. So you say he should go even if he's outside of the lottery. Is that what you're saying? I don't think his talent, his talent's not, is not outside of the lottery. Outside of the lottery right now. Hell no. If I look at the draft mock draft, he's in it. I wouldn't know that either, because the nigga only played five games. So I don't know. Fuck, Kyrie. Listen, but come on. No, Eli won number one. And I'm telling you, when Elijah goes number one next year, it would be next year, dude. But it would be the same thing. And no matter if he played every game this year, he wouldn't be in a conversation for number one. I don't know if that's true. I do. I don't know if that's true. I do. If he averaged 30, I don't know if that's true. 25.

SPEAKER_05:

Especially when especially when these two niggas already, like, there's never been hype around a lot Elijah going number one in this class.

SPEAKER_06:

These two niggas had that hype for as long as we know them and they're performing the way they are. I told you this shit was. He did go up. I ain't say I didn't say that. Elijah, he reclashed up. Okay. So I'm saying in his peer group, I don't know. Cause it's like, because it's like in reality, I shouldn't be comparing him to them.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm comparing them to Coop and him to the seniors in high school. But he had to leave because he was getting 50 and 40.

SPEAKER_05:

And that's what I'm saying. Because it was too easy. Then in my fifth game in college, I come out, drop 29. And if it only keeps going up from there, it's just gonna be too easy. Would I need to come back here for another year to go number one to chase a bag that I don't need for?

SPEAKER_06:

I could just go work on my craft. I'm already seeing shit that say top 10. Wait up. Oh, right now?

unknown:

Wait up.

SPEAKER_06:

He's in the lottery right now. Come on. Go what the fuck are we talking about? Yeah, I told you, man. Yeah, he's like they saying if he was to get a pick.

SPEAKER_05:

Come on, man. That nigga.

SPEAKER_06:

That lets me know if he played. He could have been in the conversation or something.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, he be in that.com top 10, top five, not number one.

SPEAKER_06:

You got Peterson. You got Abansa. You got Cameron Boozer. You got Kingston Fleming. You got Caleb Wilson. You got Mikkel Brown. McKel Brown's crazy. That's the nigga. I think that's the nigga I remember. Louisville. No, I'm talking the nigga. The nigga I'm talking about, I think he goes to Michigan State. You got Keaton Waggler. You got Nate Ahmed. Oh, Keaton Waggler is the nigga I was talking about from Illinois.

unknown:

Alright.

SPEAKER_06:

This is in order too. You got Nate Ahmed at Tennessee. And you got he's tough too. You gotta see Mikhail Brown, bro. I gotta see him. Y'all locked him up though the other day. Remember when y'all played Louisville? Y'all cooked Louisville? Yeah. Yeah, he ain't really do too much.

SPEAKER_05:

Because this nigga Cam is on some shit, bro. He's having a better, uh, better year than Coop had last year.

SPEAKER_06:

Who? Cam.

SPEAKER_05:

Campuchi.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yeah. Elijah Arenas' mock draft nine.

SPEAKER_05:

Come on, bro. What are we done here? Come back to college.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05:

Wish I would.

SPEAKER_06:

Isaiah F. My boy. 14th. Slime, what up?

SPEAKER_05:

You know we come on, you know we.

SPEAKER_06:

Y'all got a big man too, who from Virginia.

SPEAKER_03:

Damn, Cola Pete's like at the bottom of this shit.

SPEAKER_06:

Is he the nigga you talking about play for Michigan or Michigan State? Michigan State. Let me go see. I don't see nobody in the top nothing for Michigan State. So whatever nigga you talking about, even he's not good enough. Oh, breaking news. The Clippers are trading Evitachic? Vucevic, yep. No. Zubak? Zubak, yeah. Evita Zubak to the Pacers. For who?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh doesn't say right now. It's just say he's going to the Pacers. Pacers is about to be tough.

SPEAKER_05:

And if they still, ain't they still projected for the number one pick? They're the worst team in the league right now.

SPEAKER_06:

Yep. And Halley gained what, 20, 30 pounds?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Come back with the top, one of them top niggas. Pumping niggas. They said they would take Cameron Boozer. That would be crazy. Zubok, Cameron Boozer, Halliburton, Nesmith. No, Nesmith got traded, didn't he? Neesmith, did he get traded? I don't think so. See Accom still. Oh, and uh Chris Paul, he got traded to nobody. The Raptors, but the Raptors, they said, yo, you don't gotta come to work, y'all.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm cool. You stay home. That's basically what they told him, right, Chris?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Yeah, just chill, bro. This, like I said, this is one of the worst falls from Greece we ever seen for an NBA player.

SPEAKER_05:

Chris Paul's a top 75 NBA player of all time. This nigga can't get a job.

SPEAKER_06:

Bro, it's over. He got drafted in 2004.

SPEAKER_05:

We ain't never seen them niggas do this to nobody.

SPEAKER_06:

At the end of the day, Chris Paul has been playing basketball as long as LeBron. He just hasn't been in the NBA. They're literally in the same high school class, all of that. But he's not 40?

SPEAKER_05:

Chris Paul? I'd be like 39. Nah, he gotta be like 40. Nah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

He's younger than LeBron. I'd be 39. At least a little bit, yeah. He's 39. Never mind. LeBron still is playing longer than him. Alright, you got anything else, man?

SPEAKER_05:

Uh, yeah, as far as the NBA shit, you brought up the All-Star weekend shit. That's next weekend. I don't I didn't see no participants for nothing. No dunk contest, no three-point. I know the niggas that's playing in the game, but whatever happened to that type shit, bro. Like you said, that shit lost this last year.

SPEAKER_06:

The fact that niggas don't even know who's in a dunk contest is crazy. No. Dunk contest. Let me see. Oh, Jalen Duran, Jackson Hayes. We got centers out here? And Carter Bryant. Who the fuck is that? And are they? I don't want to see Matt McClone. No, he said he's not doing it.

SPEAKER_03:

Alright, thank you. What? So there's only three people?

SPEAKER_06:

That's your ass.

SPEAKER_05:

Two of them are centers and one nigga I ain't never heard of.

SPEAKER_06:

And All-Star weekend is Valentine's Day weekend? Yeah. And it's in where? LA? Yep. Good luck, niggas. Stay safe in them Airbnbs. And don't get your pop smoked.

unknown:

Don't get your pops smoked.

SPEAKER_03:

Yo. I'm being real.

SPEAKER_06:

RIP pop smoke. He was really, yo. He really had it, yo. Was definitely set to be one of them ones.

SPEAKER_03:

Was well on as well. Alright, man. You got anything else for these niggas, man? Anything else for the dogs?

SPEAKER_05:

This episode was for the dogs, man. Music, sports. Nah, I mean, I mean, we even talked about a little lovey-dovey shit for the for the ladies. Ladies, yo, listen to my main advice about them gifts for Valentine's Day, though, yo. Don't buy that nigga what you want him to have. Buy that nigga what he need.

SPEAKER_06:

And listen, I'm a pander. Fellas, listen to what the fuck I said. Write that letter, man. Get that projector.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I mean. Do what works for you, yeah. Don't fucking don't don't try to overdo it though.

SPEAKER_05:

Don't you ain't got it like that. Keep it simple. Keep it from the heart.

SPEAKER_03:

That'll be alright, man. Fuck I know. What would I know?

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