This Makes Sense

We get into some wild headlines and real conversations this episode. We break down the Gucci Mane vs Pooh Shiesty fallout and what led to the tension, then get into Offset vs Lil Tjay and the situation that escalated to Offset getting shot. From there, we react to the Doordash mom who left her child at McDonald’s and got arrested, and close things out with a discussion on the unfair criticism surrounding Jalen Hurts and how he’s really being evaluated. Plenty more talking points throughout, with the usual laughs along the way.

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Cold Open And Controversial Intro

SPEAKER_04 0:02

Y'all didn't fucking hear him. He said, Cheer this time, shiny stay out the way. Pass me that drink. Say fuck the hood. If it's ain't no good. Top bitch out my face. Unfortunately, I'm seeing you. My grandma told me to keep my grass low. Whole time I'm a snake, nigga. Snap this path from like three miles away. You cannot snake a snake. I ain't choose the streets, they choose me. Snapping on shit in my line. I ain't choose the rap, they chose me. My name had too much weight. Type of fluence I got where I'm from, got your gun and tone a drape. When you meet me, you gonna get real motivated. Same day. Y'all not fucking listening.

SPEAKER_03 0:52

I'm trying to defend Gucci Mine ass name. But I ain't gonna lie. Anyway, that shit look crazy. Man, I hope this shit, this shit just crazy. Look at that motherfucker. Did some weird paperwork ass shit. I'm some weird ass clap chasing ass shit, but the only thing I can think of, right? That might be going on, got the whole show of this. I said, it's Gucci Mine telling. Let's keep shit doing it. It's his wife. His wife making him tell. She's standing on woman's time.

SPEAKER_08 1:21

Interesting thing that we've seen in the last couple of days is that Gucci Man has come out publicly and said that he's not cooperating with the government.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Who that is? Who that is? 18 minutes. Mm-hmm. She on the phone now. We have a phone set. Never duck the front of you, PM. I ain't full yet, pepper since the begun. I ain't full yet. I done finally got my muscle up. You know I'm gonna flex people rootin' for the muscle up. I think I'm on that. I'ma get top. I ain't gonna rest. I put me caught right in jailboards on that. Gotta keep the fan on, you know them girls gonna sweep. I'm tryna put my man on, but he ain't home yet. Call that black button my moon, to get the home bread. I get your girl wet in the pole, and I see my bowling. Bird's drink, it's that pro man up and slip a moin. I'm just tryna stay focused, I'm tryna go fit. Tryna call when the heat on, I know you gon' melt. I be smoking broccoli, they said good for your help. Now I'm good, I don't need your help. I do all myself. I know you don't rentin' nothing, you just love my wealth. Like a little hit in it. I'm chopping it. All you want me was to take the big bit, black with my glue, uh with my grid, black with my grid.

Welcome Back And Listener Shoutouts

SPEAKER_15 3:14

Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. Thank you, thank you. Welcome. You are now tapped into episode 52 of the outside looking in podcast where we give our perspectives from the outside looking in. What's good? It's me. It's Quill. Just the same old nigga doing the same old shit week by week, consistently. You know what I'm saying? But if it's one thing I want you to know about me, you mean me?

SPEAKER_04 3:53

You gonna get real motivated same day.

SPEAKER_15 3:58

Shout out to me, man. You already know. Here with me today, and every day, my dog in the building, Chris.

unknown 4:08

Rockefeller fellow shit ghost down.

SPEAKER_15 4:10

You know who's doing the property. What's up with you, man? What'd it do, bro? Ain't on shit, man. Just I think I'm having a good week, man. It's my week off. You know what I'm saying? You was fucking with the Gucci John, throwback, little Gucci and Kodak.

SPEAKER_02 4:27

Kodak, that joint was a banger. I didn't hear that in a minute. That was a good joint.

SPEAKER_15 4:31

I didn't know if I should play the Gucci verse because of what's going on. No.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

It's a little controversial, especially especially from a nigga like me.

SPEAKER_15 4:41

I might forgive him. He might have not done nothing wrong in my book. But before we get started, man, shout out to everybody listening. Um, Philly. We got the DMV. We got Jersey. We got fucking Tanzania. We got Israel. We got Russia. We got home. Home, writing. You know I wasn't. Come on. DMV my home now. I can't claim writing no more. That's it. Man, where do you take your first breath of fresh air? I gotta go, bro, where I was where I was bred. I gotta go where my first kiss, where I popped off sex, where I first started stealing, where I just all my first, first, first. Like I said, where you take your first fresh up? My first 10 points. I was in the papers out there when I was a young boy. Alright, listen. Sounds like that. Come on, man. Come on, man. Um, also, shout outs to the truckers, Night Shift Warriors, you know, anybody working night shift, or just people who fuck with podcasts. I know a lot of people don't listen to podcasts right now.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

Um speaking of the truckers, man, shout out to your cousin Trey, man. I be seeing him, bro. Be pulling up to my job and shit. Seeing me out there getting money. I be trying to count pocket.

SPEAKER_15 5:55

Oh, no, no. I be trying to count pocket.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

He's getting to it. I see you. I see you, Trey.

SPEAKER_15 6:01

Yo, shout out to you, cousin, though. You already know the vibes. Um, first things first. If you are real, this is a perfect place for you. If you're fake, like I always say, there's always something you can learn here. Shout out to the fucking dogs. Little motivation, man, for the women today, man. Yeah. This part never gets old.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Not for me.

SPEAKER_15 6:29

Whether you're young or old, bitch be bold. Shout out to the hoes. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. We're running that one every week now.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Some tabernacles. We're running that one every week. That's some game. Who you who you picked that up, Bishop?

SPEAKER_15 6:51

Nah, that was no pen, no pad. And then once I thought of it, I put it down. I already had it. You know what I'm saying? Gotcha. You know who else does that. It's only a couple. A couple of the greats.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

Yeah.

War Fatigue And Epstein Frustration

SPEAKER_15 7:01

Okay, man. Um, we're still not hearing about these Epstein files. You try to throw the little war thing in our face. Oh, here goes the war. Eight o'clock. It's up. I'm American. I knew right away. Oh, there's a war happening. As long as I don't have to go and nobody I know is going, it virtually doesn't affect me.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

I feel the same. Have you ever experienced 28 people going off the war?

SPEAKER_15 7:28

Not to war. I don't know. I don't know how I was a kid. I don't know how real, how close they was getting to getting it popping.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

But I remember some, I mean, one of my one of my peoples got uh shipped out or whatever.

SPEAKER_15 7:42

Afghanistan, probably. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, stuff like that was going on.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

Yeah, so I do be feeling the fan like you said, if it don't, if it affects your family and some of your people, I do feel that's the people I feel for.

Prayer Talk And What God Means

SPEAKER_15 7:55

And it's a natural thought, but it's it's it's a selfish thought, but it's natural. I'm not about to sit here and lie to y'all. I care more about what's going on with them kids, these how they have these rings of sexual predator farms where you can go pay money and get your shit off any way you want to. I hate that. I don't like that. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to the kids, man. Oh yeah. The greatest. And if you are listening, I'm gonna start this thing. Because I was just thinking to myself, some girl said, Yeah, I was talking to her in the DMs, and we was discussing parents who don't really like being parents. And she was like, you know, I'm gonna pray for them. So I was like, I gotta do that more. I gotta start after I tear these people up talking about them, I do gotta get them a little prayer, a little blessing. So, first person, I want to give a little blessing to, pod related. I just want I just want to put a little prayer on Dray and Ivey, bro. Is that cool? Is that cool with this pod? That's cool. Just to make sure he gets better and gets through whatever he got going on. That's all I want to do.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

No, I thought we did that last week, because like I said, I want the best for him.

SPEAKER_15 9:21

But he didn't get this. And based off of his I think I got him now. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

I don't know if our all if if all of our gods are the same.

SPEAKER_15 9:43

Well, they are. No, I well how how you say G-O-D-S, then the statement could be true. No, that's what you said. Who created those gods and that god that created all things that could be created is my God. And that's how you know what God is.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

Amen.

Gucci Mane Vs Pooh Shiesty Fallout

SPEAKER_15 10:09

Like I said, gods can't be created. They do the creating. Jaden Ivan thinks Jaden Ivy thinks he has a creator. He can be wrong. He does have a creator, though. Gotcha, gotcha. He just might not be able to identify with exactly what it was what it is, but we all have a creator. Whether you think it's your mom, the black woman, all the way to you think it's the Big Bang. Just bum, you're here. But yeah, uh that was a good little sermon, but we gotta get down to the nitty-gritty man. Who shisty versus Gucci man? I'm gonna play a video, then I'm gonna let our um Hood Extraordinaire take it from there, and he can tell us what he thinks after we hear some of these facts.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

This week, nine individuals, including well-known musical artists, kidnapped and robbed at gunpoint numerous victims at a music studio in Dallas, Texas. Eight of the nine were arrested yesterday in Dallas, Memphis, and Nashville. Uh these individuals who are charged and arrested include Lontrell Williams Jr., also known as Pooh Shiste, Lontrell Williams Sr. Rodney Wright Jr., also known as Big Thirty, Kadarius Waters, Demarion Gibson, Demarcus Glover, Cordae Johnson, Darien McDaniel, and Terrence Rogers has not been arrested yet, but will be soon. The complaint alleges that on January 10th of this year, three music industry professionals traveled to Dallas for a scheduled business meeting. Lontrell Williams Jr. arranged this meeting purportedly to discuss the terms of his recording contract with one of the victims. As alleged, once these three men were inside the recording studio, Williams Jr. and eight co-conspirators, several of whom traveled from Memphis, Tennessee, executed a coordinated arm takeover. As alleged, Williams Jr. produced an AK-style pistol and forced one of the victims to sign a release from the recording contract at gunpoint. The remaining uh conspirators displayed firearms and robbed the other victims of Rolex watches, jewelry, cash, and other high value items. One of the victims was actually choked by one of the defendants to the point of near unconsciousness. This week, not first thoughts.

SPEAKER_15 12:56

Chris? Line them up. Lined him up. Who lined him up? You think all of it happened. Everything they're saying happened, happened.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Oh yeah, it happened just like that. They got too much, they got way too much evidence.

SPEAKER_15 13:10

They got niggas going into the stables to print the paperwork out. They got all of these. What paperwork? The contract. But he was supposed to be there to meet for a business meeting. Exactly. Because they got that on on like Gucci set it up like a business meeting. So he got all of that down on paper.

SPEAKER_02 13:31

Like the studios booked under the business and all of that.

SPEAKER_15 13:35

So it's that draw snitching.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

This is where this is where I done heard every angle, every way people have talked about this. Talk about Gucci's the CEO. He gotta do whatever, whatever. He's above the street shit at this point. Whatever, whatever. Nah, bro.

SPEAKER_15 13:57

No, nah, bro. You you you told them niggas who came in and robbed you, bro. You the same nigga who's man, nah, bro. Not you, bro. I ain't feeling it, bro. Can I read you a couple comments? Go ahead. Uh this is on TikTok from the video I just played. It says, Gucci who? Gucci man. Gucci who? Gucci from 2006? Not big 30. This makes no sense. New single, first day back in.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

First day back in.

SPEAKER_15 14:40

People and it and it okay, okay. Now for anybody listening who may not be familiar with hip hop or Gucci Man, and I say you're not familiar with hip-hop, but Gucci Man's place in hip-hop. This is like this happened in the 50 Cent. For anybody who's older listening to this, this is like this happened in the 50 Cent. And for you youngins, this is like if this would happen to name somebody Chris who like like NBA Youngboy. Right. Chief Keith. NBA Youngboy when he's 50. You just wouldn't, or 42, whatever, 45, whatever. You wouldn't be able to fathom it because Gucci Man been standing on business so long. But every dog has his day. And sometimes you gotta get out of these young niggas' way. You do. Pooh has been telling us exactly who he is. Yeah, you heard the intro. Chris fuck with it. That's the messed up part, bro. I like it. Chris liked the nonsense. I like it, bro. Chris liked the nonsense. And then for me not to think you are who you said you are. Like, um, especially when it comes to this music shit, man, because too many of these niggas be lying and telling false stories and shit. Chris is the reason. Chris is one of the reasons why we'll never move forward as a people. Like this, this was going on right now. That's not true because I'm all for us moving forward as a people. Like, so you get excited, not like in that way, but you get excited when a nigga standing on business in hip hop. Yeah. On both sides, though. Like, so if Pooh was gonna do what he did, Gucci, it was time for you to do what you've been trying to do. But you only, but you're only accepting violence, and that's my issue. You only want retali only retaliation and violence. That's the top tier what you want to see. No. So you would have rather this than Gucci man than turning up and not going for that shit like you thought he would. I just can't don't tell me you're that guy, and then don't be that guy when that moment comes. So you gotta be that guy all the time, every time. Yeah, the last time you stood on business. It's always another guy. You would just uh what how long ago was the versus you was telling us, damn smoking on Pookie Loke. So you still that are you still that guy? Then why are you bringing like what what is it, bro? So that Pookie Loke guy isn't the same guy. No, that nigga got smoked when he tried to rob Gucci. I'm saying, but that Pookie, what I'm saying, that Gucci man specifically, Gucci Man speaking on Pookie Loke that day versus Jeezy. That's not the same man that was in that room. No shite. No, no. Wasn't that guy then? Wasn't that guy when them police showed up? And now it's trying to turn back into that guy, talking about I'm not gonna quiet. You already told enough, bro. How do you know he told? Because it's in the paperwork. You ain't read it. Yeah, nigga showed it in the videos. You know how that shit go, bro. It's in the show, bro. You seen the same videos I said. It's in the paperwork, bro. But I'm still, I still I don't know what happened. I'm not even playing devil's advocate. Victim RD, Roderick Davis, aka Gucci Man, helped identify Lontrell, whatever Pooh's last name. Pooh's last name is. It said it right there, black and white. It's in the paperwork. Right. Yep, that's it right there. No, that's the first thing. Yo, let me see that paperwork. Boom.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

Look at this nigga, look at it. Pooh in there, man. Hey, man, say, man, look at this fuck nigga on this paperwork, man. Told on me, man. Cause we done ran down on his bitch ass. Took his motherfucking wedding ring, unscrewed his earrings out of his man. What? That's some.

SPEAKER_15 18:31

He thinks he's a gangster.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

We done showed him. Stop coming to Memphis playing.

SPEAKER_15 18:38

That Drake. Let me see that dog. I got it. Yo, he really lived that. Unfortunately, I'm the CEO and Tom Shooter.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

My grandma told me the whole time I'm the sneak.

SPEAKER_15 18:55

He said I ain't choose rabbit chose me. My name held too much weight. That's true. Who liked that, dog? Fuck with him, bro. I'm sorry. Yo. Free poo, man. Free shisty again. Free shisty again. Uh, we gotta do a lot of prayers for niggas. He is not moving like he's gonna be safe for long. Who? Pooh. I dare a nigga to try him. I'm saying. At this point, you leave that man alone. Stay out of his way. So if Pooh came in the room, would you act how I gotta say your name real quick, y'all wait up?

SPEAKER_14 19:55

Alright, go ahead, Chris. Yup.

SPEAKER_15 19:59

Yup. So you would act like that if he came in the room to be the same. I think I think Pooh would be a little more cooler, calmer, but pretty much, yeah. So that's like Mike Tyson, but like a little level lower.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

Mike Tyson with a I mean, yeah, skinny Mike Tyson with the Drake. Like, what are we talking about?

SPEAKER_15 20:27

So what are you doing if he say Chris, shut your bitch ass up? Nah, I mean, we not going for all of that. 30 pass me the drink. Then what? I got mine on me. Ain't nobody got past it. So you be popping them right away. Got to. I know he's not about to fight. You by yourself, and then you with three security guards. You with your security guards like Gucci.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

Oh, yeah. See, Gucci fucked up though. Let's talk about it. Where was his niggas at?

SPEAKER_15 20:52

Outside in the lobby of the studio? But they thinking, who is man? Coming for it. Gucci had to let him up.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

I'm thinking like Gucci thinking like, yo, this is my artist coming through. This is my man in them. It ain't nothing like that about to jump off. Security outside.

SPEAKER_15 21:08

What waiting to see if other niggas is pulling up. So you pull up behind him. Everybody who come with him, good. Watch what's happening after him. And that whole shit. So do you think Gucci man was unaware? Yeah. That Pooh Shistie was on his ass?

SPEAKER_02 21:23

Yeah, I think it was the it was a line up. It was the perfect line. Yo, let's book some studio time. Let's get in. Got some shit we want to holler about. Alright, cool. Come on, we can work while you come through.

SPEAKER_15 21:37

It just went evil on his ass.

SPEAKER_11 21:39

Black.

SPEAKER_15 21:40

Gucci Man ain't signed to nobody else, is he? At this point. Like, what are we doing? Shit, he found one. Who? He found Pooh. I mean, at that rate, he found a couple. He found he had a couple hot artists. I'm saying, but he got not just hot, but he got one. That's what I'm talking about. He got an ass. D do we got anything at this point?

unknown 22:03

I think he has.

SPEAKER_15 22:04

So Pooh Shisty is off that label. Uh nah, that shit not gonna hold up. That shit not gonna hold up. You think Gucci Man gonna sign him sign? You think he's gonna drop it from the label? Or you think this war is gonna go on for a long time? Do you think this is over? I mean because niggas is talking like Gucci Man 100% sweet. And that's why I played that intro. Because I don't really believe what y'all believe and how y'all look at it. I'm not saying the 100% sweet, but that like, dog, you have crossed that line to where, all right, man, you can say whatever you want, but at the end of the day, niggas gotta watch what they do and say around you because you done told now. Like No, no, they just have to not do nothing to him. Exactly. So you're gonna walk around like I've seen it in real life. A nigga who told, come home and try to act like the toughest nigga in the world with niggas. You spamming nigga.

unknown 22:59

Huh?

SPEAKER_15 22:59

You spam. Oh, my bad. Spaming nigga. No, you get it. I seen somebody come home and try to be the toughest person in the world with other people. But you've told, like you're a known teller.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

You've told.

SPEAKER_15 23:16

So how far can somebody be willing to take it there with you when you'll tell turn or you're gonna just turn around and tell again? Well, what does it matter when people are creating their own rules? That's what I want to ask you.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Uh yeah, I mean, I guess that's why so many people break so many of the quote unquote rules.

SPEAKER_15 23:40

Need a new patch, man. Them rules is old. Need new rules. And not because I think the rules are bad. I'm unbiased. I just don't like rules that people set. There's no point of setting rules if nobody's gonna follow them. It's not called a rule. When you're driving on the highway, most people are doing the speed limit. There's only some people speeding. In this case, it's not that. Most people are telling, even though the rule is not to tell. So I've always expected some people to tell growing up. I've always expected that. We were growing up. But to find out everybody tells, because I'ma tell too. Yeah, but I don't even like to take the everybody, everybody's not telling. We've seen a certain set of individuals not tell. No, I'm just saying the rule is to tell. That's the new rule. And not telling is breaking the rule. Yeah, and you're thorough for not breaking the rule. I guess so. So yeah, even when you said at what point is it, it's not a rule.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

At this point, it's just a principle.

SPEAKER_15 24:46

Yeah. You gotta live your life on this principle and just even though it's it's non-existent to people. Most principles aren't. You can't really show somebody until you in until you in that situation, but you can't walk around every day showing everybody like these are the principles I live by until you win most situ until you win them situations to where them things have to come to the forefront. But yeah, stop calling Gucci a rat. Don't believe what these cops are saying. That's what Chris is doing. Believe in detectives. We're gonna move on.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

It's in the black and white. I ain't believe nothing.

SPEAKER_15 25:25

Nobody says, That don't mean this is these are complaints that the police make. That's what it's a complaint that the police made. That you made it up. They could have made it up. Police make up complaints. They don't get all the details right in those complaints.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

I mean, we'll see, we'll see how it play out moving forward.

SPEAKER_15 25:43

But it don't look too good for Pooh, no matter how. No, it don't look too good for Pooh, but I'm saying it's like plus 200 on Gucci Man actually riding and being a snitch. So what would have the what else would what he gotta take the stand? He gotta Yes. There's a nut there's a next process. There's the next process of this pro I mean, there's a next step of this process. I just wanted to get to that step so we know because we're only at the complaint part. That's if Gucci man still never comes up and says anything that anything happened to him and all of this crazy.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

It's crazy because most most niggas who do rat never it never gets that far.

SPEAKER_15 26:27

Never. I'm not it most of the time it never gets that far. Okay. No, I'm not I'm not challenging never. I'm agreeing. Yeah, I'm agreeing. I'm saying never. I'm agreeing. I ain't questioning it. Like, so for it to have to get there, like, cause most niggas tell you, like, niggas walk around, yo, show me your paperwork. Once you can show a nigga's name in your paperwork, uh cooperate, that's enough. Cause it isn't alright. At that point, what's Pooh supposed to do? Try to fight it?

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Nah, nigga, you're gonna take your deal. And whatever.

SPEAKER_15 27:03

But you went back to spamming, but we're gonna we're gonna you're you're averaging four niggas per 30 seconds. At least four to five niggas for 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

This is this is nigger at its highest. On regular topics, I don't gotta this is.

Offset Owes Lil Tjay And Gets Shot

SPEAKER_15 27:22

Okay, okay, I'll give you that because a couple times I felt like you said nigga was like your last nigga you got off, that was perfect. You were supposed to say nigga. Anything else would have been weird. This is it at its highest. This is nigger. But might not be more niggatry than this. Next up, we got offset versus little TJ. So, who are they? Offset, I'm sure most of you listening know who offset is. He's a member of the Migos, uh husband or ex-husband to Cardi B. Then we got little TJ. RA music, off-brand rapper, singer, rapper lifestyle 100%. Definitely be singing from New York. He might be like 10 years younger than Offset. Little TJ might be like 23. Yeah, he's still that young. I'm gonna look up little TJ's age right now, just to make sure, just so we can paint this picture. Because little TJ is the one that loaned out the money. Little TJ is 24 years old. Big bro. Yeah. So, when did this start, people? Well, the first video or the first time the public got their hands on this was a year ago. But allegedly, this money that we're about to get into that is old, we got the screenshot, or we got this Instagram story, or whatever I'm gonna play you. We got that after he already been asking for his money for months. So this could be a year and a half of just owing him for the casino.

SPEAKER_14 29:10

Here we go.

SPEAKER_11 29:15

Why this offset? Offset broke. Nigga the fuck. Oh yeah, I wanna I'm gonna tell y'all this stream too. That nigga broke, that nigga pop. I'll tell y'all a true story. Nigga. Another dude that's sitting nigga in the casino. He was pop. He was panicking, nigga. He was asking random people for cash apps. He was broke. I don't know what happened. He pops. I'm running up chasing, chasing, chasing. Most colours game on the addiction. And the nigga says, yo, he just pop and call the niggas for cash apps in front of me. I think a lot of the first five open, nigga, you pop away from some breath. Nigga, where for my money. I swung a nigga five. You know how to get it. He just pops. Not us two dicks in each other. He just pops straight to the casino. Goes not. He gets another lumber for someone else for like two bands. I don't even take my money. I'm good on my money. I'm worried about this nigga. I got mad, bro.

SPEAKER_15 30:11

Okay, so that's how it started. Uh-huh. Um, so during attacks, Lil' TJ was asking offset for his money. Then he posted, like Offset had a story, and Lil TJ wrote on his story, not gonna lie, I'ma smack the shit out of you. Offset said, LOL, huh? You joking, right? Just seen this pop up. Gotta be the wrong nigga Texan. Boy, I'll smoke you. You barely lived already. Who the fuck you think you talking to, nigga? You gotta be talking to the wrong nigga. I'm in New York right now. Come smack me, little clown boy.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

I remember when I seen this, I yeah.

SPEAKER_15 31:00

Lil TJ says, Miami, tear emoji. Offset says, if it's that, stop DMing me for trace reasons. He said, nah, little TJ said, nah, never that, little bro. I just want my 10 bands. Offset said, say that. Where you at with it right now, Chris? Yeah, pay that man. What's going on here? I done came in a couple weeks ago. Let's get to the bigger picture. Alright, go ahead. Yeah. Then backstory is the backstory. That was a that was that was the backstory. Pay that man. That was a year ago. Everything I just said to you happened a year ago. Now, if you're not familiar with Little TJ, I just gave you the backstory on Little TJ. Little TJ or little TJ's affiliates allegedly are the people who just shot offset. Where else would All Set be? A casino.

SPEAKER_02 32:07

Miami, Hard Rock, and Miami. They see each other.

SPEAKER_15 32:13

Supposedly they get into a little scuffle. This adds up. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Supposedly they see each other outside the casino.

SPEAKER_15 32:20

Again, even part story is all set was popped in this casino at this time. So he outside, whatever, whatever. Well, I can't say that. I don't know. You know, people be trying. Cause whatever. He outside the casino. Whatever, whatever. They see each other. I guess TJ press him for his 10 bands. Where my 10 bands at? Yeah. They get into a little scuffle. They said after that.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

One of TJ affiliates, allegedly. TJ point him out. Offset try to take off.

SPEAKER_15 32:55

Shot him in the ass. That was good word play. Outside the ass part.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

Oh, that's it.

SPEAKER_15 33:01

It's not a pause, but you said offset tried to take off. Oh I didn't even catch that. That was crazy. That was crazy. Yeah, so offset shot.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

Offset got popped.

SPEAKER_15 33:16

So while offset. So while offset was in the casino, people, offset said, I'm here. No, offset. So offset, you know how you go to the casino, offset has somebody who works with him. Like I guess you would call it a bookie on the streets. Got somebody he directly deals with. She says, I'm here. Offset said, only gave me 3K cash, lol. They said, at least you have some cash. He said, credit line? She said, I'm working on it. Offset said, how long? She said, I'm not sure. I set it up higher. Wait, I sent it to higher ups. It's in credit. What they say? Um, she said, you want to know what you're down this trip? He said yes. She said$890,696.90. He said, Oh my god, what the fuck? Yeah, I need a$500,000 line of credit ASAP. What? You didn't know that? No. Oh my God. So this is what I that was my point of saying that 10 bands really might not be nothing to him. No, no, that 10 bands is everything. Wow. He's not even in his credit line yet. No, yes, he is. He's down a million. I'm saying he already lost a million, but he's trying to get a credit line. He hasn't even had access to a credit line yet. They only gave him 3k extra in cash. I think. Oh, so you telling me he pulled up with the M in cash and lost and lost that? He lost his bread. I'm saying whether it was in cash or whether he kept going to the joint and cashing out. Because remember, they said he was chasing. This this is this C C you're not reading into this right in my mind. Go ahead, go ahead. Talk to me. She had to send this to the higher up because he's already down the mil. She couldn't give him the 500 if he wasn't down a million already. That's her job. She's she has it, yo, she probably has a million that she could, yo. I could give you a million. After that, it gotta go to the high. Did he say let me get another 500? Yes. Another yeah. I need another 500. He is down. That 10 bands is everything to that man. That's why he's mad. It's everything now. That's why he's mad he only got two. But what was it last year? I don't and this is the reason why he got shot. And yeah, yeah. Because I'm saying if his credit line is if he if you if he was asking for the 10, the 10 meant something last year, too. We like there ain't no way you're in a casino and you like these people have the this is their job. They give these people credit lines all the time. You get marker from the casino all the time. If you're down like that, to where now you outside taking pictures with niggas, charging, trying to get random people to send you cash apps. What are we talking about here? He blew Cardi's money. What are we talking about here? And she wants more? What are we talking about here? They said he was getting brand from Selena Powell, too. He owes Selena, he owes Selena Powell 15 bands. Come on, bro. Let's talk about the big these niggas is down. I came in here a couple weeks ago and told you Quavo down.

unknown 36:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 36:54

You talk about they get, I don't know where it's coming from. And this is why I said, bro, I think even QC selling might have that might have fucked up. Like, shit's been bad. I think offset's getting money. I just know where his money's going. That's it. Not to him. No, but he's still generating it.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

Yeah, well, sheesh.

SPEAKER_15 37:17

Because you can't be in the casino every day and gamble at the weight at the rate he's been gambling for how long now. Even Bootsy said, bro, I'd be in there, offset be in there all the time. Me and him gamble all the time together.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

Right.

SPEAKER_15 37:32

So he's he's he's a staple in there. And if he and if they give a million dollars. And if they gave him a million dollars that weekend, think about what he won or what he's been doing all year. Coming and uh balls coming and going. Win, lose, win, lose. Yeah, but enough to train. I'm saying it's enough to keep going back and forth. I don't think he's sitting there trying to live off the casino. I really think he's trying to win. Like enough to really. Nah, he got a problem, right? Yeah, it's bad. Yeah. 800, that's a lot, right?

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Uh uh M to one to one spot prop uh most likely.

SPEAKER_15 38:15

Oh, because he probably got a couple spots across the country.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

At least different, like, okay, so that's a hard rock. Okay, so you don't go to the hard rock now, you go to name another casino.

SPEAKER_15 38:27

You go to the MGM joints now. Put you down in there, in them joints. Cause he probably like, bro, I'm gonna just owe them, let them sue me. It don't mean nothing to him, bro. It probably don't mean nothing to them. Shit.

unknown 38:42

Damn.

SPEAKER_15 38:42

Alright, wait up. Wait up. Let's see what else I got. That's a bad jump. Oh, and this is little TJ coming out of jail.

unknown 38:52

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_12 38:55

Since you're doing this, the last thing I seen was Ulster looking at me like this. Yo, that n shot me. Yo that shot me. La la la is a rat. I don't do no damn fighting.

SPEAKER_11 39:06

Did I shoot crazy?

SPEAKER_15 39:08

They're saying you were disorderly.

SPEAKER_11 39:10

I said the casino was a fight with a relationship. He would never play with me like that in his life. Somebody owe you owe you money?

SPEAKER_12 39:17

Axe offset. He owe you money? Axe offset.

SPEAKER_15 39:21

The last thing I seen And offset did tell him basically, get your money back in blood.

SPEAKER_12 39:26

Well.

SPEAKER_15 39:28

That's what he did. There goes that. You think the 10 band debt should be cleared? Nope. If he got it back in blood, nope. They still want to get paid. But he's never getting that 10 bands, right? Oh no, at this rate now. Yeah. This is uh like Chris said, this is nigger tree at its finest. Man gonna sit up now. I ain't heard a story in a long time where all of it tracks.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

And then you said, then you said maybe not even. Because it was in Florida. It could have been a stay in your ground.

SPEAKER_15 40:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

Maybe not even.

SPEAKER_15 40:06

Yeah. So yeah. Some things is written on the wall, bro. It's writing on the wall, bro. Offset Ben gambling, Ben shooting dice. Him, little baby.

SPEAKER_02 40:20

Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_15 40:20

I hate to say it, but supposedly it was his smoke that got his man popped. Offset wasn't there. That was Quavo. Oh, my bad. It's just putting extra shit on people. It was one of these, one of it wasn't Takeoff smoke. That's all I know. I mean them niggas left. Huh? It's only two of them left. I mean, it was only three to begin with. Even if it was Takeoff's old smoke, it could have been Takeoff's old smoke. I don't know. I remember how the story was told. He wasn't the one game. I mean, you are the hood expert. Okay. Uh so any final assessments on this?

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Nah, man. I mean, get well soon, offset, I guess.

unknown 41:10

Papa.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

Pay that man though, too.

SPEAKER_15 41:14

Hey, little TJ made good on his promise.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

I mean, don't.

SPEAKER_15 41:18

I mean, yeah, you got what you asked for. This is 90s. You owe your money, you get shot.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Got what you asked for.

Social Media Clips And Relationship Blowback

SPEAKER_15 41:23

And it's the and the nature and how he owed the money and how he carried it after that. If offset was really down bad, I would understand, but it's like you are betting. And before it even got to before it even got to them messages, how many times you think TJ probably just asked regularly? Oh. Probably like six. Probably like six. I see you on NY, you got that 10. I'm about to pull up on you. And nigga just out. And that's what I'm saying. You keep seeing this motherfucker out air all over the place spending your 10 in strip clubs, in the casinos, doing all. Why are you playing in my yo, bro? Your ex-wife's Cardi B. Give my 10, bro. Yeah. That should be nothing. It should be exactly. It should be nothing. But you mad that the casino only gave you three in cash. You let like, nah, bro. Go figure it out, dog. You down bad. Okay. I have another video. The woman from the episode agree to disagree. The one who wouldn't leave her man alone when he was in the car trying to get some peace. We spoke on that. Um, we're not gonna speak on this too much longer, but I do want to play you a video. Because when I seen this, I thought, some people just don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 42:36

Quick update.

SPEAKER_05 42:37

Yeah, a little quick update on what's going on right now, but this currently Joe Budden's podcast and the ex-football players, the pivot, I believe it's called, they decided that they were gonna discuss my video with my relationship. My man don't have social media, so he would have never seen the video that I posted of him sitting in the car and me trying to figure out why he ain't coming the house. But guess what he does watch? He watches those goddamn podcasts. So then he hears them talking about the whole scenario of what we were doing, what we were going through. And guess what he's doing now? He's packing his shit to leave because these grown men wanted to come and talk about my relationship off of a video that's one minute long. You guys don't know what happens in my house, okay? I posted that to give the two sides to the story. There's two sides, okay? It's not about a woman who nags her band and he can't come in. It's also the side about the woman who works her ass off, okay? And just want to be supported.

SPEAKER_15 43:36

Amen.

SPEAKER_05 43:38

Thank you, okay? Thank you for going on your podcast and discussing my relationship and ending it. Because that's what's happening now. He's packing his stuff and he's leaving because he's embarrassed, he's humiliated, and he's getting this from his friends, and all these different people are like, yo, now they know how he really lives. Shout out to the type of your podcasts. So I hope you're happy about what you

SPEAKER_15 44:00

Yeah. Step it up for that man. He ain't no king. What? He ain't no king. Stand, he stood up. What you mean? She tried like she's you know. Now he's finally deciding to be a king, but he wasn't no king before. Like I told you. I don't again, whatever. I ain't known before now. I don't know what he stood on before. But I seen that moment where she tried to play him, tried, oh, you was put this video out for the work. Alright, watch this.

SPEAKER_08 44:26

I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Try embarrass that man. Try to put him out.

Kanye UK Ban And Lil Nas X Debate

SPEAKER_15 44:32

I don't she did she post it. She is the one that she did embarrass herself. I just feel like in the past he was being weak. How is there two sides if he don't have no social media to speak on his side and never know never knew it was going to be posted? He's only weak because he should have been left her. But to answer your question, there's still two sides, whether social media sees one or not, still legitimately two sides. I don't like when people take their problem to social media and you really and literally both people who the problem is about can't speak on whatever it is. Whatever the problem is. So if it's two people having a problem and the other people are chiming in, I'm with that. But as far as one person taking a problem and framing it one way on social media and then making other people take the other side and have a narrative for the other side without actually because like you said, I don't know what that man was on before this video. But you're acting like everybody just believed her. Her video was so bad, most people made up a narrative that favored the man. And I guess it seems like that's what I'm trying to say. The truth is the truth. So even if I paint this this way or that way, somebody gonna know. And then this and in this term, it wouldn't if it was intuitive. But if this man didn't listen to, like he don't have social media, he would have never knew if he if it never got to where it got to. It all adds up. Every part of that adds up, even him leaving. My only case last time when we talked about it was he should have been live. He he didn't. I bet you he's at peace now. I bet you he's happy now. He had his friends clowning him. You know what I would do to you if you were sleeping in the cars. No whoa, is that crazy? Come on, move on, move on. Well, yeah. Let one of my friends be sleeping in the cars on some bullshit ducking their wife, bro. And I get to see that shit and then his social media. See Field Day. I'm sending that shit right to Jared, James, Isaac. I'm gonna be like, if it's somebody else, you I'm gonna be like, look at your fucking man. He lost his fucking soul. He don't even want to go in the crib. He paid for. Yeah. Damn. But more quick news. Um Kanye West. They don't want him to go to the fire fire uh the wireless festival so bad. I think they canceled the whole festival.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Canceled the whole festival. He was the headliner, I'm supposing, and clicked the whole thing.

SPEAKER_15 47:24

To not pay him, right? Because they would have had to pay him, right? I mean, I don't know. How I don't the UK banned him. The whole country. UK, you're not allowed over here. That's what the problem. That's what the issue was. He is major. Yeah. Alright, yeah. I thought about this too the other day. I forgive you for sucking your cousin's dick. That is a you're for you're a forgetful guy, man. Forgetful or forgiving? Forgive forgiving. I said forgiveful. Both. But yeah, man. We're just so I could talk about Kanye peacefully. But yeah, man, they're kicking him out of a whole country. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Yeah. Whole UK said, nah, that's what caused the fire festival to cancel.

SPEAKER_15 48:18

First rapper to be banned from a country? No. Over their opinion? Possibly. Kanye's never broken a law. Kanye has not broken no laws yet. This is this that's true. But I would say, I would say no because some countries is like even off of whatever you might might have started rapping about, some countries tell you nope. Like, I'm sure there's some countries that little Nas X can't was never gonna be able to pull up. Oh my god, such a good example. It was never gonna be able to pull up. So you come here to perform? It's Africa. You come here, what do you do? You do that stuff you do? That stuff you do over there. No, no, no. We are fine. So do you know whiz kid? Maybe you can help us. You know whiz kid.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

So yeah, I'm sure there was some examples like such.

SPEAKER_15 49:19

Why are you gay? No, no. You are gay. Yo. Yeah. But what would you say? You sure it is, yeah. Some examples like that where it don't gotta be said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Even if they wasn't banned, dog. You knew he wasn't pulling up over here. Not you. Oh my gosh, yo. I never thought about that. Not true. Oh. Not here. Oh, see. See? Practice what you preach. Uh prayers to Lil Nas X. I think he is 302. He's a what's that? I think he's in like a little wacky house. Yeah. I know 304s. I don't know 302s. Don't worry about it. No. If you know, you know. If you don't, don't worry about it. You got me. That was good. Yeah. Okay, but we still gotta pray for him.

SPEAKER_02 50:29

Real quick, that was for Lil Nas X and not the whose or the whose name.

SPEAKER_15 50:32

That was for Lil' Nas X.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

I might have to go run that one back then.

SPEAKER_15 50:36

And I'm not gonna say I'm pro or non-pro. Stay with me here. LGBTQ. I don't know. Plus, I'm not pro. I'm not whatever the other thing is. Only because I don't know why people are gay. When I figure out exactly why everybody's gay, then I'll make my stance. I'm just gonna stand on your life, your choice. And that's what I'm saying. Leave it at that. I don't need to know why. Your life, your choice. But if it's not your choice, then I'm on your side.

SPEAKER_02 51:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_15 51:17

Like if it's somebody fighting against their body's desires, then I can't be mad at them. But if you just going around doing gay shit.

SPEAKER_02 51:27

With the ball.

DoorDash Mom Leaves Child Behind

SPEAKER_15 51:29

You just go around doing gay shit. I don't know. You see what I'm saying? Like shaking. Oh my God. Alright, man. I wish we had a person rock. But like, take that out, but you said it. Gotta stand those shit right now. Uh, more quick news. Uh lady was dashing and left three of her kids in the car at McDonald's. Oh, no. Okay, let's let Chris take it because I fucked this story up. Right when I was reading it, and I knew I fucked it up because you told me earlier. She left one kid.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

It was a black lady door dashing with five of her kids. She runs in the door into the McDonald's door dash to go pick up the order.

SPEAKER_15 52:12

As she's in the store, one of the kids jumped out to use the bathroom. Or maybe even two of them, but one of them got back in, one of them didn't. She didn't know. She didn't never know about her kids going in to use the door. Got back in the car, just kept driving.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

Got back in the car, took off to go do her door dash.

SPEAKER_15 52:30

Fuck the rear view mirror, but go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. As she dropped the food off, she got pulled up to make another door dash out of different McDonald's. One of her kids, as she gets back in the car with that food, one of her kids say, Where can?

SPEAKER_02 52:49

He was at the other McDonald's. He went to use it. That's when she rushed back over to the other junk. Police is already there with her son. And shit won't left from there because she will go pick up her kid. It seemed to be like an honest, honest mistake. But the police was trying to treat her like she was shit. Like she left her son there on purpose. Trying to make the kids trying to make the kid that was in the bathroom and her other kid say that she said he was taking too long, so she left him on purpose because she was door-dashing. Like, yeah, nah, this was that that was what the police was on, bro. And her kids is like, no, that she just didn't know. Like, okay. Yeah, it happened the way I'm telling the story. We jumped out after she was already inside. Black kids, white cops. Exactly. Exactly. You see, you see this. You see it here.

SPEAKER_15 53:43

But I will say I blame I blame men.

SPEAKER_10 53:47

Go ahead, man.

SPEAKER_15 53:49

Alright. Number one. She was out of her mind. Number two. No woman should have to door dash while having three kids in the car. That's a lot.

SPEAKER_02 54:04

Like I said, I think it was five.

SPEAKER_15 54:05

Five. Even worse. The only time a woman would have to do that if there's a man who didn't come through. That's why I was saying I blame men before the pod. Because that situation is too extreme for me. And in that situation, I can understand you forgetting. Like if it's five kids, you could look back, it could look like five kids. It's not like you're back there like Braden. Like you know, a home alone, how they checking all the lists, and they're like, Kevin! Like, we don't do that. Even that ain't happened until they was in the airport. Yeah, you assume your kids is in the car where you left them. Right. Or at least somebody gonna say, yo, hold up.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

This little nigga still in the bathroom.

SPEAKER_15 54:46

Right. So that's what I'm saying. Like, that's why I'm I'm giving her a little bit of grace because the condition, like, you door dashing five kids in the car. They probably talking, asking for stuff, fighting. Probably can't even think.

SPEAKER_02 55:02

And she even said she was doing that just to get some bread to feed them, to feed all of them that night.

SPEAKER_15 55:07

Well, if she was smart, she would have stole a couple orders back to back. That'd have been it.

SPEAKER_02 55:14

Maybe she wanted to cook him a home cook now, man. Hey, listen. I'm on the code. And keep her job. I'm on her side. I'm on her side. I mean, I see the the I see where you're coming from. So if that if that's her scenario, then yeah, where's at least one of your baby fathers?

SPEAKER_15 55:34

Yeah, I could see DoorDashing with one kid. Like I think in this comp uh, in this economy, in this climate right now, I can see that happening. You know what I mean? I wouldn't have much pity for that. I wouldn't be able to say, oh, the husband ain't shit. No, the mom's probably just getting extra cash while the husband. But just like you said, or the husband or the man, but just like you said, if she's doing that to get money to feed them.

SPEAKER_02 55:54

Yeah, it's a it's a bad situation.

SPEAKER_15 55:56

No matter where I'm at in life, bro, I'm gonna be able to send my bitch$30.

SPEAKER_02 55:59

It's a bad situation all the way, bro.

SPEAKER_15 56:01

My baby mom, my wife, whatever you call her. Or I'm cooking.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

Make them kids some spaghetti.

SPEAKER_15 56:06

Yeah, come pick this hamburger helper up, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

Quick cheap man.

SPEAKER_15 56:11

I already know how my baby. Well, I don't got no gas. Oh my god. Now it's fucking 79. How much gas is now? 439. It keeps going up. Knowing me. She ain't gonna live in my city. It's just how life goes, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 56:28

Where are you gonna be?

SPEAKER_15 56:29

I'm gonna be here.

SPEAKER_02 56:31

Oh man.

SPEAKER_15 56:32

I just know how life's about to go. Damn. You're gonna have no girlfriend anyway, so it doesn't even matter. But uh, got anything else on this topic about the mom? I got you dude too with the blame men. You thought I was on bullshit. Yeah, I mean, nah.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

Nah, I think, yeah.

Women’s Hoops Talk And Betting Streak

SPEAKER_15 56:54

Chris is crazy. Chris would never have anybody he having a baby have a baby with have it have to do that. Yeah, door dashing alone is crazy. To feed the kids is insane. Chris is that that uh that simp ass dad where his kids hit him up, like, yo, dad, let me get the$300 hoodie, and then the mom can buy him buy whatever. That's the type of parent Chris is. So niggas don't even got a DoorDash. You could just sell one of them hoodies if they if they get hungry. That's what the fuck I would do. Hello. And Shalom's to you. Uh no, first, first, Michigan boys basketball. Oh, let's close it. Let's go, Michigan. Yeah. Ellie Codello. We beat y'all. Yeah. That sounds crazy when niggas win the chip.

SPEAKER_02 57:58

No, we beat them already, though.

SPEAKER_15 57:59

Sounds crazy when people win the chip. I don't care. I'm just saying if we. I get you, I get you. Championship.

SPEAKER_02 58:03

We won.

SPEAKER_15 58:04

You know that don't hold no weight in college over there.

SPEAKER_02 58:08

We would have got there.

SPEAKER_15 58:10

Also, whatever. I'm here. You are. Also, South Carolina defeated Connecticut. Women's. That was in the final four. Final four game, man. UCLA played Texas in the Final Four. UCLA beat Texas. Mm-hmm. Women's. This is women's. And UCLA. South Carolina beat Connecticut in the Final Four. Gino Ariyama was the fuck bugging. Wrong. Talking about. And I don't like when people lie like this. Because when I really dug back into what he said when him and Don Staley got into it, and he was at the press conference. When he was at the press conference, he was like, I got a player with a ripped jersey. You're alluding to anybody who's listening as if somebody else on the other team ripped their jersey. She ripped her own jersey out of frustration because they were ass. You got girls missing layups and crying. This ain't the Connecticut I know.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy. I did see that at the end of the game.

SPEAKER_15 59:25

Just start balling on the court. Dawn, you was a hundred percent right. Everything. Just that whole, I'll fuck him up and all of that. Beat Gino A. Like, stop it. I'll beat Gino. Shout out to the Shorty's from Philly L. I know y'all think y'all could beat niggas up, but just stop that shit, yo. Stop that. No, I really will. I'll beat Gino A. I said that Philly hopped right out of her. He was mad. He wasn't even.

SPEAKER_02 59:51

He was he said he got tight because in the pregame, she had him stand in that half court for three minutes to shake his hand, whatever, whatever. But she said, man, before that, I walked down and I shook everybody's hand on his staff. He was nowhere to be found. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_15 1:00:07

They on some back and forth shit there, but I like it because this gives remnants uh to the days when it was Gino and Pat Summit going at it.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:16

And they said Gino was like it brings more eyes to the game. It makes that it makes Geminis Kyle's basketball way more lit.

SPEAKER_15 1:00:22

I ain't mad that he's a sore loser. Like I actually think that shit kind of fire.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:27

Yeah. Who the fuck likes losing?

SPEAKER_15 1:00:30

And uh show me somebody who likes losing. I'll show you a loser. And then we have after that, UCLA play South Carolina. UCLA beat the dog shit out of South Carolina. And that is where our betting streak begun. We back on FanDuel people. We now have the picks again. We bet. We making fucking money. And we bet.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:55

Yeah. NBA picks. Mostly NBA picks. You had the South Carolina, uh, the UCLA pick. That was all you.

SPEAKER_15 1:01:02

This was yeah, yeah. No, I just locked that one in. Oh, yeah. This was offset when he uh won at the casino.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:10

Chicken dinner.

SPEAKER_15 1:01:12

Winner, winner, chicken dinner. Nah, we've been we've been cracking them, bro. I ain't gonna lie. Like, just hitting, hitting, hitting.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:23

Good joints. Good picks. Mostly, um, I ain't gonna lie, most a lot of it's a lot of it's off you. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_15 1:01:30

Thank you, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:31

I've been I've been you, what's that pick? Need it.

SPEAKER_15 1:01:34

It's one of them days yesterday where Chris took my pick, made it better. I took my pick, made it worse. I lost, he won. But every every day one of us has one money.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

Very profitable. Very profitable.

All NBA Teams And Awards Arguments

SPEAKER_15 1:01:48

And I'm gonna win my money today. If you're fortunate, oh no, you won't be able to hear this today. You won't be able to hear this today. Sorry. Sorry. I can get Wednesday, the game's tonight. Sorry, I'll post it. I'll post it on my gram. I'll post it on my gram tonight. I'll post it on my gram tonight. Uh let's get into. Do you want to talk about Draymond Green and Tanking, or do you want to save that conversation? Do you want to get straight to these awards?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:17

Man, I'm tired of talking about tanking. Them niggas don't deserve this. These awards are way more interesting. Let's go.

SPEAKER_15 1:02:24

Okay, now we're getting to the NBA. So I'm gonna go down the list of the top 10 to 15 scores wherever we get. Chris is going to tell me if he thinks they're going to be all first team or all second team NBA. He cannot pick two choices. He can only pick one. He can change a choice for another choice.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:52

Alright. So I okay.

SPEAKER_15 1:02:54

But you can only get five first and five second. There is no third in your mind.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:59

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_15 1:03:00

He can also ask for stats if he's not sure. And he can ask me if the player is eligible.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:08

That's all I know I really need to know. Okay. Let's look at these stats, man.

SPEAKER_15 1:03:18

So with 64 games played, leading the league and scoring, Luka Doncic averages 33.5 points. 7.7 rebounds and 8.3 assists.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:36

Well he's not eligible now.

SPEAKER_15 1:03:38

Do you think he's gonna play at all?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:40

No, we already in Spain right now. We got a playoff. We got bigger.

SPEAKER_15 1:03:46

Alright, so no Luga. Next, Shy Alexander. 31.3 points, 4.3 rebounds, 6.5 assists. First team. First team? First team. Lot.

unknown 1:04:00

Lot.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:01

Gotcha. We have Anthony Edwards, but he's not eligible. He played 60 games. You need to play 65 to be eligible for awards. Supermaxes and all NBA.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:18

It's corner because these people who aren't eligible would easily make these teams first and second team. These are some of the best players in the world. And they're just the best players in the league. Like, what are we talking about?

SPEAKER_15 1:04:28

And they played 60. That's what makes it, but they're not going to make it. Then we have Jalen Brown. He played 70 games. He averages 28.8 points. 5.8 no seven rebounds and 5.2 assists.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:46

Just because I know, and this is positionless. I know there's some other names out there.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:52

I know he's had a great season. But right now, I just want to like I'll say first team, but in pencil. He ain't no lie.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:04

He could easily get slid to the second team.

SPEAKER_15 1:05:07

What you're picking right now. You oh, but you do have the information that he's fourth in scoring in the league. You know that. And out of the eligible people, you know he's second. First team. Okay. We got Tyrese Maxie, 67 games. He averages 28.4 points. He averages 4.1 rebounds, 6.7 assists.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:33

Second team. Sixers just don't win enough, or he would have been on the first team, bull.

SPEAKER_15 1:05:41

Kawhi Leonard, he played 63 games, which you know he's playing the last two. 63 games, he averages 28.1 points. He averages 6.3 rebounds and 3.6 assists.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:00

Yo, Kawhi been ballin this year, bro.

SPEAKER_15 1:06:02

You have so far you have two people on your first team.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:06

One person on the second.

SPEAKER_15 1:06:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:09

And this is the fifth fifth nigga six. Kawhi. Cause some more of these names aren't gonna be eligible.

SPEAKER_15 1:06:20

Not true. Keep going.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:22

Everybody else is eligible?

SPEAKER_15 1:06:24

Damn there.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:32

Second team. Clippers don't want enough. Let me see who else is out there. Damn, my phone's on 1%.

SPEAKER_15 1:06:44

Um, and then we have You got the NBA app, right? It's gonna be quick. And then we have the last one was Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi, yeah. Give us one second, people.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:03

Just read real quick. What is the next name?

SPEAKER_15 1:07:05

Oh, the next name is uh Nikola Jokic. He played 63 games. First team. He averages 28 points. First team. Move on. 10. Oh, 12.9 rebounds and 10.9 assists.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:22

Leads the league in rebounds and assists. First team.

SPEAKER_15 1:07:26

Okay. When you see Joker, you're gonna get real motivated first day. The fuck? Donovan Mitchell, 27. He played 69 games. 27.8 points. Let's see. 4.5 rebounds, 5.7 assists. Donovan Mitchell. You only have three people on your first team. You have two people on your second.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:01

Donovan Mitchell. Get some f he'll get some first team left for me.

SPEAKER_15 1:08:06

First team. First team?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:08

First team.

SPEAKER_15 1:08:10

Jalen Brunson, 26 points. See, alright. 3.4 rebounds, 6.8 assists. With these two players, their teams are real close in stand-ins. Whoever go. Gotta stand on shit right now. Oh my god. It's only two games left in the season. So who's hiring the stand-ins? The um the Cavs.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:33

Alright, second team.

SPEAKER_15 1:08:35

Are the Cavs? No, it might be the next Cavs. They're man closed. They might be all right. Like a game. No, you gotta pick, bro. You can't go by that. Oh my God. You gotta pick, bro. You could you gotta pick. That matters. I know, but you have to pick. You can't put one person in two categories. But they literally, I'm just literally interchanging the two. You can't. That's putting two people in two categories. That's why. So you have to pick. You even said earlier I could switch. You can, but you have to pick where they go. Yeah. They're back to back. All right. So you can say Jalen's first team and say. All right. All right. Yeah, second team now for Jalen. Second team for Jalen, first team for Donovan. Yeah. All right. And then we have Devin Booker, 25.9 points.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:24

Out of consideration.

SPEAKER_15 1:09:26

Okay. We have Kevin Durant, 25.8 points. He played 76 games.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:33

Where am I at on this list? This is 10, 11th.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:36

11th leading score. Nine eligible.

SPEAKER_15 1:09:48

You don't even have a full first team. So what? Okay, cool. Second team. Actually, you almost have a full first team. Your first team so far is Chai, Jalen Brown, Nicole Jogic, Donovan Mitchell. And then we're going on 12th on the list. You said KD's second team, right? So your second team, you have, you said KD was what, second team? You have KD for your second team. You have Jalen Brunson for your second team. You have Kawhi Leonard for your second team. You have Tyrese Maxie for your second team. So you have two more on both.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:24

No, I got one more.

SPEAKER_15 1:10:26

I mean one more on both, yeah. So the next one is Jamal Murray. He averages 25.4 points.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:33

Second team, for sure.

SPEAKER_15 1:10:35

4.7, rebound, 7.2 assists. Second team?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 1:10:40

And then 13th, we have Victor Wambayama.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:44

First team.

SPEAKER_15 1:10:47

I think you smoked this.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:48

First team.

SPEAKER_15 1:10:50

The next person would have been Cade Cunningham.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:53

Out of consideration.

SPEAKER_15 1:10:55

Alright, so now do you want to make your third team? What's left? So what would be left would be Devin Booker.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:03

Cool 13.

SPEAKER_15 1:11:04

Danny Avita.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:05

Cool 13.

SPEAKER_15 1:11:08

James Harden.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:09

Definite 13.

SPEAKER_15 1:11:10

Jalen Johnson.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:12

Definite 13.

SPEAKER_15 1:11:13

And Pascal if he plays three more, two, three more games, if they even have three more games. Yeah. We're not awarding about the worst team in the league. So what's your third team again? Booker. That's what I'm saying with a lot of them names. Booker, Harden, Johnson, Paolo.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:34

I guess tough there, but definitely, definitely come in. Definitely under consideration.

SPEAKER_15 1:11:42

So yeah, because now I'm now I'm being nitpicky with the game. With the third. That's why I didn't want to do third, third team. But I actually think what you picked is going to be the list. That's why I asked you. That was kind of good. Yeah, you thought out, you thought I got another. I knew what I was doing. I knew what I was waiting for for that first team.

unknown 1:11:59

Oh my God.

Jalen Hurts Criticism And Winning Standards

SPEAKER_15 1:12:02

We could have gotten all the way to 16th on the list. That boy first team. All right, man. Real quick. Next, we move into the Eagles, man. That was actually really good, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:15

And it's not as though he went in there with the intention or you know, some sort of uh desire to make this point. But still, it keeps coming up. Every single day I come in here and I want to make sure we have a football conversation. And every single day someone is saying something about Jalen Hurts. So, Dan, I'll ask the question: is all of this criticism of Jalen Hurts, is it reasonable and is it fair?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:40

No, but that's life as the starting quarterback in the NFL, let alone in Philly. I think one, Hurts has become one of the, if not most polarizing guys in the NFL. Two, the facts and the opinions don't match. That's what's the interesting part of all this with Jalen. Fact is, he's been awesome since he's become their starting quarterback. We're talking wins, which is what everyone gauges a quarterback, you know, franchise or not. 62 of them. He's accounted for 185 touchdowns. However, how he gets the touchdowns, I don't care, people at home, whether you like it or not, and he's top 10 in passing yards. On top of that, he's gone to the Super Bowl twice, won MVP of the Super Bowl once and likely would have if they won the other one, okay? So those are facts. That's also being said at the same time of opinion. If you took every starting quarterback in the NFL and we just took him out on the field and we said, we're in shorts, just throw. You're not gonna take Jalen in your top 15, because that's not his style indoor strength. And I think that's where the rubber meets the road is you have facts are this all this guy does is play well and win, and then there's these opinions of well.

SPEAKER_15 1:13:56

All right, y'all. The phone died, which is fine. But I have a couple questions for Chris. What up? How did you feel about what Dan said?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:04

Uh he was pretty fair.

SPEAKER_15 1:14:07

He was more fair. That was one of the best things I've heard.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:09

Yeah, definitely way more fair than a lot of the uh the other quote unquote critics and pundits and everybody else out there who supposedly know what they're talking about.

SPEAKER_15 1:14:18

But how do you feel about it? What do you think it is? Why do you think people like talking about Jalen Hurts?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:23

Oh, like I said, it's them VVS's. Like you said, that boy polarizing. It's them VVSs jumping off the screen. Diamond's jumping out the face. He a winner. Uh pause. He looked good. Like, there's always gonna be something you could talk about.

SPEAKER_15 1:14:38

Bitches do say he looked good. I'm not gonna. That was crazy as fuck. Rapod, and I'm letting you get that off. But what he's trying to say is like There's always gonna be something for these niggas to talk about. Like bitches talk about the women talk about Jalen in that way.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:54

Whatever he was doing on or off the field, they always gonna have something to say. That's all I'm saying. And like he said, the stats is insane. You you said top 10 in passing yards. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_15 1:15:05

You didn't know the wins, the touchdowns, went to the Super Bowl, like won the Super Bowl. What more do you want from me? What do you expect out of him next season? For you.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:19

I expect us to be competing for the Super Bowl. There's nothing like there's there's nothing less over here.

SPEAKER_15 1:15:25

And if y'all, like, let's say y'all are trash next year. And when I say trash, I mean six, seven games winning. We got a problem. You wouldn't be able to stomach that. Yeah, we got a problem. Immediately? We got a problem. How a look? What if it don't evidently what if he's throwing a lot, not throwing a lot of picks, but y'all just lose. That's what I'm just saying. How would it look? He's averaging two, two seventy-five, two.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:45

But it's the defense's fault. Defense's pull on.

SPEAKER_15 1:15:48

Let's say defense's fault, don't got no O-line, but Jalen Baller. Well then go get my man to help. You see, gotcha. This this what y'all wanted to see. I'm just seeing it. I'm just saying that that that's and that's the like, oh, this is the number. Like, this is what happens when you play that style of like it don't work. And for anybody listening, I'm only asking Chris these questions to see how far uh he's rocking with Jalen Hurts until he maybe has to think about changing an option. That's what I'm asking. Because I feel like the people who aren't Eagles fans feel like, oh, we we we would get rid of him right away if he was ours. But then it's like the people who actually are Eagles fans are like, no, there's no way y'all would give y'all quarterback up. Y'all just saying it because it's our quarterback and it's not y'all quarterback. Y'all hype up quarterbacks that do less and have done less and won less, and we feel like they get more recognition. Not more recognition, because Jalen Hurts gets a lot of recognition, but he also gets a lot of negative.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:48

Right, they get more praise than my man. And it's like for what?

SPEAKER_15 1:16:53

And and and that same Super Bowl loss from a youngin', Joe Burroughs, y'all give him so much credit for that Super Bowl loss, but that's y'all same talking point in taking Jalen Hurts down. He wasn't an old head when he was in that Super Bowl the first time.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:08

Exactly.

SPEAKER_15 1:17:09

Still, he lost, but that's what y'all give Joe Burroughs all of his praise for. Because what Joe Burroughs goes out there and does, you can't say it looks better. Their offense looks trash sometimes. Right. They're playing a bad brand of football overall down there.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:26

That's all I'm saying. Like, yeah, players can go out there and put up numbers, but at some point, it's not winning football.

SPEAKER_15 1:17:35

It's not. And it's very evident, like the guys who are putting up them numbers aren't usually them guys winning them Super Bowls.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:44

Except one this year. Jackson.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:47

Huh?

SPEAKER_15 1:17:48

Jigma.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:49

No, that's a he's a receiver, not a quarterback. I'm talking about from the quarterback stand, from the quarterback position.

Video Plans Music Picks And Outro

SPEAKER_15 1:17:55

Only Patrick Mahomes, now I'm not gonna say only, but Patrick Mahomes is like an outlier. The dude who leads the league in the like Tom Brady didn't make it look fantastic every all the time. And I'm saying it got different. Anybody who lead in anything don't be winning normally. I was just naming Jackson the nick enigma to just put because it's it makes a bit broader. I'm just saying, anybody. You making it quarterbacks, making it more specific, which is I'm saying you'll still be right if you said everybody. It's not like the people who lead like Miles Gary Lenin Sachs. That didn't reflect the wins. Right. Team ain't do not. That didn't reflect the wins. So, and who won MVP? Matthew Stafford, right? Yeah. They didn't win the Super Bowl. Right. So there's some shit out there. Lamar Jackson, he won MVP last year, didn't win the Super Bowl. Josh Allen don't win the Super Bowl. Always lose when it comes down to it. So I don't know, man. And then all my man do is get us there and then play the best game he had he played all season to win the game. And I don't care what fan base you are. We not doing this. Before we end this pod, y'all gonna we not doing this changing of culture where your favorite players, MVP, means more than the fucking championship. We can never go that far in sports. We already gotta deal with fucking gambling in the books. But now we gotta deal with that bullshit. Y'all acting like an MVP is fucking with, oh no, bro. He better because he got an MVP. Shut your nut ass up. Dwayne Wade averaged 35 in the finals. Not bringing up Harden, but I'm just telling you, it was certain times you had to be around to really know what these things meant. For y'all, it was just six or seven games. To average 35, you had to touch a 40 ball. In the finals? Multiple. If you're that guy. If we're gonna talk about you compared to that guy who did that, you just better have one fucking MVP. And if you didn't win MVP, I don't want to hear your name in the same breath as a finals MVP. Unless his name is Andre Gudawa. Somebody like that. But everybody else, all these other finals MVPs, bro. Don't play with them. Don't play with them, bro. That's a fact. Real shit. And too many people who won a chip and didn't win a finals MVP. Can we talk about that? It ain't gotta be a long conversation, but we can go through it. Joker. I'll name one who didn't quiet. But at least he was defensive player of the year like twice. Yeah, well, come on. Yeah. And he got two finals if he. Come on. Yeah, we're not doing this. We're not doing this. We're not doing this. Stand. Uh how will we end this? You got anything else, man? Check your phone. You ain't in. Because you're gonna be like, oh, they tried to shoot. Oh, you're gonna have something we really forgot. I'm telling you. We're doing one last little run through, people, for listening. Um, just so you all know, me and Chris will be getting video. We don't know when. Um, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you we're working to do it because it's just gonna be a snap of a finger thing that's just gonna be done. But we'll have video in the future. I'm I'm aiming, Chris, for at least by the time football season starts.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:34

Oh, okay, that's cool.

SPEAKER_15 1:21:35

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, that's that's definitely that's that's what I'm looking forward to. Like, enjoy the summer. Y'all can listen to our pods. I know y'all gonna be outside catching up, whatever. But when it starts getting that cold again, we're gonna be on that tube.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:50

Yeah. Nah, but I ain't got nothing though.

SPEAKER_15 1:21:53

Um, I think we're any song you want to end it with? Got anything on you that you've been fucking with? Nah, I've been on some old shit. Got you. Um as far as new music, if you are listening to this, I would say um check out Tori Lane's album.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:11

Oh, is it any good?

SPEAKER_15 1:22:12

I like it. And then um what's it called? Well, I didn't even listen to most of it. I just lied. I just uh was thinking about Kanye's album. Uh but listen to Tori Lane's album, but I listen to all of Kanye's album. Kanye's album's fire. It's just not gonna give you that nostalgic feeling simply because we're not in it no more with certain people. You know how we hear FDO and we like, dang, he really feeling real time, it's not gonna feel like that. It's gonna be like, oh, this is good, Kanye. You know what I mean? You're not gonna be. You knew me before Rackus. You never dis you're not gonna get into it like this. See, that is that's actually where I've been lately. I'm oh man.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:55

Oh, I didn't even tell you. What? My little sister found some hove tickets. Not a terrible price at all. It's kinda far.

SPEAKER_15 1:23:04

600? 7. 700 to CJZ. What that? No, no. And this is for the this for the two. Both? That's for the two-piece. That's for the two-piece. Man, don't see me back-to-back days with the same outfit. I'm sleeping at the stadium.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:25

You you you up so high, you be able to get away with it.

SPEAKER_15 1:23:28

Oh, for them numbers, you up high? I don't know. Yes. Come on, what are you talking about? Oh, that's uh let's get back to doing calculations before this is over. 700 times two, 14.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:42

No, 700 for both tickets. Say 350 apiece. It's like 360 apiece.

SPEAKER_15 1:23:50

I'm adding another person with you. I'm counting if you go. 700 times two, 1400 plus the trip. Gas. Oh my god, gas is gonna take a look. It's gonna cost the roots picnic. It's gonna be another ticket. It's gonna be another ticket to go out there and have fun. You can see Jay-Z again just to go see Jay-Z. That's sick. Yeah. But yeah, I'm cool seeing him at the Roots picnic. James said he got his tickets. Him and his girl got his tickets, yeah. When we're outside, I'll be there. Try and convince Jared to get his tickets.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:32

I ain't even want to say that. Do the people know what Jared's asked? Huh? I said, do the people know what which came first?

SPEAKER_15 1:24:40

Oh, yeah. My cousin Jared asked. And we're gonna end off of this note. Leave Jared asked right at home.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:46

You understand me?

SPEAKER_15 1:24:47

He going for Kalani. It's like, no, I'm playing up. Yeah, but my cousin go as, yo, Couso, what came out first? Blueprint or reasonable doubt? I'll done slap fire out of Jared. Go listen to Raw Weave, nigga. Get the fuck out of here. I'm done with Jared. Chill on my cousin, yo. Done with Jim. Chill on my cousin, yo. Done with Jared. Chill on my cousin. Done with him. Alright, yo, man. We'll holler at y'all next week. Like it's nothing, cause it's nothing, bitch.