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We went through everything actually known about the Nolan Wells case before anybody's opinion. Then the Big Tigger video, Terrion Arnold, the NBA betting mess, and a Brown for a Brown.

Cold open this week — no intro, straight in. Quill, Chris,and James(LB).

(00:02) The Nolan Wells case. Laying out the timeline before any of us gives an opinion: July 4th, Horn Island, the friends leaving, him staying behind to talk to a girl, the phone that ended up at his mother's house, and where he washed up. What's fact, what's reported, and what people are filling in themselves.

(11:40) Defending the friends. There is a version of this where four kids who grew up together were just friends, and we make that case honestly before considering anything else — including whether we'd let our own kid take that trip.

(18:43) Everything it could have been. He could have drowned. Somebody could have seen it and turned their head. Somebody could have made a phone call. We walk each possibility instead of picking one, and we say plainly which parts are speculation.

(21:52) What an autopsy can and can't tell you. The family ordered a private one. Why "no blunt force trauma" wouldn't settle it for us.

(24:57) Mr. Tigger. Big Tigger, Rap City, twenty-plus years on the radio, and the video everybody's seen. We react to it, we get into what it looks like versus what it's being called, and we split on it. Also: why the kid behind the camera kept saying the radio name.

(33:50) What came out afterward. Reporting on the woman in the video and an unrelated 2019 case in Maryland, and what that changes about how the video reads. Plus Tigger stepping away from the show, and whether he comes back from this.

(44:34) Terrion Arnold got released by the Lions. Reportedly around $250,000 taken from an Airbnb, and what he's alleged to have done about it. Man law versus a $40 million second contract. Nobody at the table agrees.

(53:35) The NBA betting mess. Malik Beasley, Terry Rozier, Chauncey Billups, and Jontay Porter as the precedent. The Charlotte-to-Miami trade nobody wants to explain. Then the real argument: can the league ban you if the courts don't convict you? Pete Rose, deflategate, and whether the integrity of the game actually moves a single betting dollar.

(01:07:01) A Brown for a Brown. Jaylen Brown to Philly, AJ Brown to New England, and it feels like a trade. Why Philly is going to love Jaylen the way it loved Allen Iverson, why AJ is free game, and why Jaylen should stop telling people he and AJ are related. Plus Boston, Bill Russell, Kyrie, and the night we watched a whole city shut down at midnight.

(01:13:39) Streamer University. Kai Cenat!!!. Adin Ross, IShowSpeed, N3on, RaKai, Queen Naija, Skai Jackson, Ben the Don, India Love. Most of the people you think are big are running two or three hundred viewers until Kai walks in the room.

(01:23:56) Summer League and LeBron. Vegas starts this week. Cleveland, Philly or Miami — and if he lands here, what it actually does to this city. Sixers with Embiid, Maxey and VJ. Bron parties, ticket prices, and a bartender's read on which blocks make money.

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The Boat Scenario That Turns Dark

SPEAKER_06

Alright, so if you're saying the bull was gonna get a ride home with his fr with who?

SPEAKER_00

With the with the girl he met.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. So what you mean a boat? What you mean?

SPEAKER_07

So you know the you know with this island, right? You only can get there by boat. Okay. Right? So if I come with y'all, right, and I'm like, yo, I'm about to stay back here and talk to Shorty.

SPEAKER_06

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07

And y'all like, alright, y'all dip and leave. Y'all leave me.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_07

How do I not get on the other boat to go like with Shorty to go back? That's on you. Nah, he's saying what's the circumstance made him not get on that boat.

SPEAKER_00

There's something in between that we're missing.

SPEAKER_07

That could happen when you try to get pussy anywhere. That's the point I'm making. This could be anywhere. Y'all, y'all making it a boat, water. No, you left your niggas to get some ass. I just got lined up in the process. Whatever happened. Whatever happened, happened. I ain't trying to dumb it down to that, but I'm saying, like, that scene more, and people

Nolan Wells Timeline And Basic Facts

SPEAKER_07

already hit record. Um, I had to. We're speaking on, what's his name? Uh Nolan Wells. Nolan Wells. Nolan Wells. Nolan Wells was reported missing. I don't know the exact date, July 4th. I guess they were partying and we're Alabama. Mississippi. Same thing to us, us, us niggas from PA. That's the same thing. Once I heard that, that's felt like foul play. Yeah, still like foul play. Facts.

SPEAKER_01

Only thing that would have made it worse if it was Lake Rainier or whatever that lake is down in Georgia.

SPEAKER_07

There's already bodies down there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, exactly. I think it was like called Horn Island or something. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.

SPEAKER_07

So before we give our opinions, let's just lay out everything that we know to be a fact.

SPEAKER_01

Well, first of all, I ain't know that I ain't know there was some girl involved like that.

SPEAKER_07

Absolutely. That's why he's separated from his friends. So, all right, let's just start from the beginning of the day. July 4th, they said with 3 p.m., whatever, they go to the island. You know what I mean? Him and his friends, childhood friends, I heard. Childhood. Yeah, like his like his friends, his homies, and them.

SPEAKER_00

See, and the only thing about this is Nolan Wells, of course, is the only black kid, and he's out here with three other white boys.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, like I said, before we get into that, before we get into that, let's get into the facts.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, that's a fact too. It's just the optics of you saying.

SPEAKER_07

But they're there, we're gonna look at it as they all friends, because at this point, if they're childhood friends.

SPEAKER_06

But the fact is he did go out there as a lone black man. With three of his white friends, not even another black friend.

SPEAKER_00

Got you.

SPEAKER_06

That's what Chris is. That is a fact.

SPEAKER_00

And then all of the photos that I've seen. None but white friends. So they had original photos. So, all right, let's just get back to it. We'll get back to the photos. So July 4th, they go there.

unknown

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07

Right? Um, I guess around a certain time, I don't got the time for sure. The friends that he came with said they, hey, we're about to leave.

SPEAKER_06

The white boys, people. Anybody listening? The white boys.

SPEAKER_07

We everybody. The friends that he came with said we're about to leave. No, but we're gonna call them for the people listening specifically, the white boys, because our audience is looking at these white boys as you're the culprits. So when we say these white boys specifically, we are always gonna be talking about his friends separated from these white boys and white people. Okay. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

So we go, we get to that point where they say the white boys say, We're leaving. Nolan says, I want to stay. You know, this is what they said.

SPEAKER_07

Nolan says he wants to stay because he's talking to some girl on the north side of the island, whatever, whatever. And he said, I'll get a ride back with them. Okay. Where it gets fishy. Let's stop right here. Okay. Let's stop right here. All right, good. Now, white, black, brown, green, purple. Everything I've heard up until right now connects, makes sense, and it's what niggas do. Not niggas as in black people, men with testosterone, right? Who are 18 years old. Let's keep that in mind. These ain't little kids.

SPEAKER_00

I think they sophomore and freshmen in college.

SPEAKER_07

Exactly. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_05

So, real quick, uh, so is this is this the friends that came out with this information about the girl? Because they they was like on the first day, everybody was trying to play stupid, like they ain't know nothing.

SPEAKER_06

But how would you know?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's what they were saying. They said they're playing stupid. This is is it's all a little there's some dots that ain't connected yet. But what they were saying is they didn't know because he was there, Chris. And it's like he says he wants to stay and talk to the girl. So if I leave, if you come with me in the car and you like, yo, I want to stay here and talk to her. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_07

And when it leave, we're saying my last knowledge of you, Chris. I left you to talk to her.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly. I wouldn't say, I wouldn't. So now that when the police come to be like, oh, you know what happened to James that night? I'm not gonna be like, nah, I don't know nothing. I'm not gonna.

SPEAKER_06

I actually would not know nothing.

SPEAKER_00

But at least I'm like when we're talking murder, and we're talking so but but I'm saying at that point, I'm not just oh, I don't know. No, last thing, Dan, last thing I know, yo, he was trying to link up with Shorty at the time.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, but you can't say that when niggas is hitting you up the whole next day, maybe. You know what I mean? Or that night or whatever. You drink it, you that niggas is lit. You could literally not know what's going on. That's all I'm saying. I feel and saying that my man's went with a girl at a beach party, that's not saying nothing. That's like if we on a resort and I'm like, yeah, Chris walked away with that girl. It ain't saying nothing to me.

SPEAKER_00

He's gonna go to her, she gonna say the same thing. It ain't saying nothing to us, but when once the police and everything get involved, I better try to remember the last thing I remember about, even if it was, yeah. I told I remember the last thing I remember I told him we was leaving.

SPEAKER_01

He was stayed at the beat, like whatever.

SPEAKER_07

Nobody That is what the police reported. You who do you think they got this news from? They ain't got that shit from Facebook. That's what I'm saying. You did ask, so let's just assume his friends gave that information up.

SPEAKER_05

But this is what I'm saying. From what I from what I knew, and y'all had a a little bit more information than me, but from what I knew, day one, they came off the rip like yo, we don't know nothing. That's where the suspicion started to grow within that within their group of yo, could they have possibly had something to do with this?

SPEAKER_06

We're black. When we're black, so we see a dude walking off with a girl as something.

SPEAKER_07

There are cultures who see that as nothing. Once you strip race out of it, they mean you went with a girl. Yeah, but one that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05

We've seen a lot of cops come to you talking about yo, we ain't seen homie in three days.

SPEAKER_00

It's July 7th now. Yes, but I never last people known with him July 4th. Y'all left the crib with him and all that. What happened to cuz?

SPEAKER_07

Bro, you're not looking at the setting. It's a part, it's a everybody's partying. So if I say yo, I'm staying with this girl, I guess they would have five, six girls. I could be the nigga to switch girls by the hour. We don't know. I'm staying with her for the hour. I could have cracked in that hour. That's how these young niggas is living.

SPEAKER_00

So the only thing this is what I say about like what we don't know. Like, we don't know exactly what they told the police. I know they said they said nothing, but I don't know if they actually because they to me, I think this is a small community. So they know what girl he was with. That's what I'm saying. I think something like that. But we left him, he was with Sarah Abres.

SPEAKER_07

Like, you know what I mean? They they know who he was with.

SPEAKER_05

But I think if they come off with that information to begin with, without claiming ignorance, saying we don't know nothing, the suspicion has never rose upon them. Then it's looked at like, oh shit, homie was just at a party night ago.

SPEAKER_07

And not to cut you off, that's why I want to start with facts and feelings and how people perceive what's going on, because I think that's part of perception. I don't know anywhere, like I've I hear people saying they said nothing, but I don't I didn't read anywhere where they was just saying, Yeah, I didn't see any more actual. Yeah, because because the police are coming with this information from somewhere, and these young boys are receiving all types of death threats.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, no, it's got crazy, it got they got it got turned up on them. It got crazy for them.

SPEAKER_07

It's crazy for them.

SPEAKER_00

I will I will throw you this though. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. And this is a fact that like the family has brought out.

SPEAKER_06

We need more facts. Go ahead, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So apparently later on that evening on July 4th, those friends, I don't know which other friends, one of those friends took his cell phone and took it to his mom's house. So they left him on the island without his phone.

SPEAKER_00

Come on, yeah. They took his phone and gave it to his mom. That's how a lot of these that's how a lot of these pictures you're seeing is being put out there.

SPEAKER_07

And the parent, like I've also read this, but this isn't a fact. This is what I heard. The family said something about there was deleted photos in there or deleted messages in there. So that's the little sticky part too. I just know if I grab Chris's phone, for example, and this is my man's. Are you leaving Chris somewhere alone without his phone? Timeout. If if he tells me he's good, yes. On the island, it you making it seem like it's an island island. Like, let's make it let's make it more local. Don't think like, cause I feel like we're thinking island like Jamaica, a vacation. Think Lil Dirt, Alabama, a little, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, something like that. You know what I mean? They go there a lot of time. They they've been there often. Current could get strong, you know what I mean? Like, but yes, yes, and I would take Chris's phone to his crib. I would do that. I think I I think it sounds sounds. Not to his mom, yeah. You know what I mean? But if you like that's yeah, if he lived with his mom, I'll bring his phone back. I'll be like, yo, this is Chris's phone. He got kids, dah dah dah dah. I could see myself doing that now. You're speaking to somebody who has no intentions on foul play, right? Nothing negative, right?

SPEAKER_03

Right, that's what I'm saying. Uh how they it's it's possible he left a phone in the car, whatever. Easily on the ball away from the water. Yeah, yeah, not even no, and now we just grabbed our shit. We're keeping all our phones in the car.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03

We're keeping all our phones in the car.

SPEAKER_07

Because I've done that with jet skis before. Like me and my cousin, his girl might be riding jet skis and that going to the beach, period.

SPEAKER_03

Where I'm not even tweaking nothing that that's even of any value to get lost or left out here.

SPEAKER_07

And we all live in the area. Now, I would tell you, if they were in Mexico, if they were in Jamaica, I would be looking at this completely different. But it seemed to me like everybody Uber ride away from home once they get off that little island part. That's what it seems like to me. This is different. So it's like I would have gone home. Let's say we had Blue Marsh. That's what I was disagreeing. I would have just went home about my day and thought Chris scored. Right. That's what I really if he and and we're speaking on if he's my man's. Let's take color out of it. Because we're gonna get to the color and the racial part as well, but I do want to create a conversation.

Race Optics And Why Suspicion Spreads

SPEAKER_04

Was that playing the whole time?

SPEAKER_03

What did it say? It said uh limited space on the on the card. Oh, because I forgot to delete something else.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know if you're gonna be able to delete it while Dang, did I just fuck it up? Did I fuck up a good part of the convo?

SPEAKER_01

It should have recorded, right? It's still recorded.

SPEAKER_06

It did record, but I forgot to delete the space.

SPEAKER_01

No, I do. We got 10 more minutes right here.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, so we only got 20. Okay.

SPEAKER_06

I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna get this together.

SPEAKER_03

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_06

But listen, people, we'll be right back. We'll be right back. Give me a second. Okay, we're back. So, what I was saying was I do, I I see the racial part of it and how there could be foul play. But the reason why I'm having this conversation is because as a community, we like to see shit one way, one-sided. Like, there's no world where them white boys couldn't have been genuine about everything that was happening. Because they actually were his friends. Now, let's bring it back to this weekend.

SPEAKER_07

This weekend I went to my cousin's cookout. My cousin's half white, half black. He had two, maybe three white friends there. Now, granted, I ain't feel like those boys was my friends, but I really felt like they were his friends.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

You know what I'm saying? So when you see certain things like that, it's like there is a world where these kids are growing up, and because of what school they might have gone to, black and white kids are actually just being friends. And it is natural. It ain't always foul play in it. Especially when you could point back to childhood. For sure. I've been friends for so long. These white boys would have been got him out of there. If they wanted to. If they wanted to. Come on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

To get it done, done. Yeah, especially if they had real hate in their hearts for for him like that. Especially if they was like taught racism or whatever the case may be, that their relationship would have ended a long time ago before they was 18 years old.

SPEAKER_00

And this is but the only thing is where the foul play question comes in, right? Even if I left you at Blue Marsh or wherever you said, if I leave you there, why when like the people I left you there with, why didn't they report you missing? Like if you went off swimming, you didn't come back. Like somebody saw you go away, potentially, or somebody knew you was like the girl knew you were supposed to leave.

SPEAKER_06

Now I'm not arguing, no foul play. I'm just defending their friends right now.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so the friends could be clear of this. Do I believe it was somebody white? We can get to that now. Absolutely. Who the fuck is it?

SPEAKER_03

It just don't forget this white girl. For it to be there on this boo.

SPEAKER_07

But for it to be white people don't need to be his friends. Nah. You better go back with your friends, homie. And it don't need to be his friends. And you're about to fuck? One of ours? She came with us on our boat? You think you're about to rock? Nah. And we and we can't stop her unless we off you. Oh, we can stop her. If we don't stop, we can stop you. Exactly. Exactly. That's the only way. Because she's doing it. Oh. She's down. She's getting it done. Yeah. You're on that boat. She already probably told your homies that he could ride back with me. We good. I got him. Don't tell them.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, your friends are with me. No, no. Go tell them you're with me now.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Now we can get to the real racism part that niggas want to get to. Now, and a lot of y'all playing detective on Facebook. Y'all gotta stop that shit too. A lot of people not looking up. Nothing. And just like, oh, yeah. Foul play. I'm telling you, nah. I done seen four black bitches go on vacation and three on we come back. I'm one of them, yeah. I done seen that. So it's something, you know what I mean? I'm not.

SPEAKER_03

Remember that little girl in, I think it was in Chicago, they put her in the freezer in the hotel. Yeah. Foul play, you talking about.

SPEAKER_06

And then there was another conversation of Okay, and now this is starting a conversation of Would you let your kid go on vacation with three or four of his white best friends?

SPEAKER_07

As a black man, this is for y'all to answer.

SPEAKER_05

That that how well I know these kids. How long they been friends? Same exact time. He can go.

SPEAKER_00

If they his friends and they've been his friends since I've known them since pups, he can go.

SPEAKER_07

It seems like the mom don't really. I was just about to say, the only thing. What are these kids' parents like?

SPEAKER_05

Now I might not be getting this energy from these kids because they kids, and like you said, they grow, they grew up together. They don't know no better. They just nothing but innocence. But if there's something up with their parents, if I feel their parents is at all a little sketchy, like at all could have anything going on with them. Because you'll know.

SPEAKER_07

Then I'll get reluctant.

SPEAKER_00

You'll know the kids is innocent. They don't know. They just going to school growing up, playing sports together, da da da. You know what I mean? But as a parent, I would you come to pick your kid up and you see how they don't even let your kid maybe in the house or something. They gotta play outside and this, this.

SPEAKER_04

White people will never let you see that. I just want y'all to know that right now.

SPEAKER_00

Sometimes you pop up at the wrong time, cool. You can see it.

SPEAKER_07

Not if your kid is their friend. They're not gonna let you see it, bro. They'll wait till you leave to each kid or act funny towards him, bro. I'm telling you that.

SPEAKER_01

I agree with that. But I think over the over, especially if it's talking about a lifetime like 18 years, our kids been friends, you're gonna say the wrong thing.

SPEAKER_05

Dude, like something is going where it where my antennas are gonna go up. And they might not go up enough to pull my kid away from your kid for forever. But that thought will always be in the back of my mind, like, uh, I just don't know. Something, something not right about their family. And again, it might not, it might not ever show, show within the kid, but in the back of my mind, I'd be thinking, is that day gonna come where he might take on the ideologies or or whatever the case may be?

SPEAKER_07

But once we get to the age of your child being 18, your child will have now seen it himself and will either start distancing himself from that or probably let you know.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_07

Because I get it. When your child's 12, 14, and they go it's it's it's he not he don't see it.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I mean? The kid, the child don't see it knowledge, right? For the most part. But when your child's 18, 19 in college, oh no, he he's seeing it. So he kind of knows these is his homies by now. So that's why I would kind of let my child go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I I I I would make the argument to say you don't know who your real friends are when you're 18. And that's for everybody.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I mean that's true too. You know, so people still changing.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, and we gotta take a step back. Like, they might have been best friends since they were kids, but it's like, how close was I with the I mean, they were on vacation. I mean, were they on vacation together? That's not at all.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not vacation. This is like a little island.

SPEAKER_07

It's like you said, it's like it's like they just partying together.

SPEAKER_00

Bro, it's like going to the park.

SPEAKER_05

It's like pulling up somewhere for like a senior skip day at high school, after high school type shit.

SPEAKER_00

Like, this is not their first time going to Horn Island.

SPEAKER_07

Now together. They did say, now, now, people, when you're hearing us talk, we're talking about things that could have happened.

Drowning Theories And Autopsy Limits

SPEAKER_07

All of this we saying could have happened. You know what else could have happened? Could have just drowned.

SPEAKER_01

Could have. Yeah, that's just an accident.

SPEAKER_07

But this is where I think the people who he was there with afterwards. See, that's where racism kicks in.

SPEAKER_00

Right. It's even so easy. It's so easy.

SPEAKER_07

They'll let you bleed out on the street for hours, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

I don't even I don't think that would happen in in a large setting of of the people that was supposedly at this uh island or on this island or whatever.

SPEAKER_05

That man could have drowned easily out of sight, out of mind, and nobody knows.

SPEAKER_07

I'm telling you, the shorty know at least, though, right? And this is where you he losing me right now. I'm telling you, there are people who will see somebody die or something and turn their head and just live with guilt. There are people like that, bro. I ain't saying I ain't saying white girls are like that. Yes, they are. Yes, they are, bro. They will watch a nigga sit in jail their whole life for something that they know the nigga never did. And just be and just feel guilty about it. That girl could have easily seen him die and turn her head. That's true. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm just saying possibilities. So when you say, yo, the girl saw something, I'm saying, LB, you right. She could have saw something, and then act like she seen nothing. Cause she could have been scared because she's 19 on the island. Or she could have had something to do with it.

SPEAKER_05

It even if it's something small, like some people feel like if I told him to get off the boat in the middle of the fucking lake, and now he jumped out the boat because I was berating him or whatever, and he fucking drowned.

SPEAKER_07

He tried to kiss me, and I ain't want him to kiss me, and I pushed him off and he drowned. Or he hit his head, and I can't swim. The search and rescue people did say um he probably didn't drown far away from where the island. Like it wasn't like he drowned.

SPEAKER_05

In the middle of the lake, because he washed back up on the island. On the same island.

SPEAKER_00

So what they were saying was where he washed back up. If he would have drowned further out, it would have swooped, it would have swept him to another little island. So where he drowned at was probably very, very close to the island.

SPEAKER_07

Or, or this is another possibility, people. Or she does see it happen. She does go tell somebody. And that somebody says, Yo, I know this person, I'm this judge, I'm this cop. Don't even worry about it. We just gonna play it this, this, and that way. That's the world we live in, bro. It could easily be something like that. She go tell somebody, they're like, nah, bro, we we got you, baby, don't worry. It was an accident. And they cover it all up, whether it be her grandfather, whether it be her dad, bro. White people be having power like that, bro. Yeah. Easily. This is a little small town, too. Come on, bro. I know every cop. I know anybody who can get you in trouble, I know them. Ain't nothing but a phone call away. Nah, I feel it could easily be some shit like that. We ain't hear nothing about nobody else who was left on that island. Like the cops ain't talk about them at all. Now, foul play. I do see foul play. I'm just trying to pinpoint where it could come back.

SPEAKER_00

Come back from out nowhere. Well, once they do the autopsy, because the family is doing their own private one, once that comes back, then we'll know if it was any foul. Like he was hit, you know what I mean? Be any kind of force draw anything besides drowning.

SPEAKER_07

And that's what I'm trying to say, bro. People can put you in positions to drown and kill you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but if I'm even if I'm holding you down, it's still like a shotgun.

SPEAKER_07

You're thinking holding you down. I'm saying current and I leave you somewhere. Like we could be on jet skis. I could push you off in the middle of somewhere and leave you. The autopsy is gonna say you drowned, but I killed you.

SPEAKER_01

You know wherever you put it.

SPEAKER_07

That's what I'm saying. The autopsy not even gonna be able to tell you what us black people really thinking. Because if it says no blunt force trauma, that don't mean nothing to me. That don't mean nothing to me. I could just you trying to put your hand on the boat. That's it. There ain't no blunt forest, but that's kicking your hand off the boat or stepping on your fingers. Right. Ah. And that's saying, yeah, he played football.

SPEAKER_04

Of course, all his fingers jammed.

SPEAKER_07

And he played wide receiver. Come on, bro. They they walk around with crooked fingers. Yo. Another black king lost, man.

SPEAKER_05

Ah, for sure, man. RP Nolan Wells, man.

SPEAKER_07

Real shit, man. I don't know. We had to go, we had to do a cold start, but he needs one of these, bro. Like, that's on God. One thing we can learn, black kings. The greatest. That horny stuff, bro.

unknown

Shh.

SPEAKER_01

Control your horny.

SPEAKER_07

Oh my God, man.

SPEAKER_00

We've been telling niggas this, yo.

SPEAKER_01

Control your horny, man.

SPEAKER_07

That horny shit will put belt to S. Or it'll put life to death.

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Shh.

SPEAKER_06

Turn life to death real fast. Yeah, that was good.

SPEAKER_07

That was good. But we gon' um, we gon' we gon keep y'all, you know. We might talk about it again. We might not. If the autopsy comeback messed up, then we got to.

SPEAKER_06

Because sometimes we be getting shit wrong, cuz I don't know what the fuck was going on with All-Star JR.

SPEAKER_07

Like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, nah. Yeah, stupid. Last I checked.

SPEAKER_00

I ain't thought about this shit in so long either.

SPEAKER_07

Last I checked, he was wiggling his toe.

SPEAKER_00

No, last time I seen him, the nigga was standing up in the video.

SPEAKER_07

See, I don't believe y'all. They got AI. AI will have him walking down the block. Yeah, you don't you don't have to be standing up to stand up no more. Yeah. That shit wicked.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

Big Tigger Arrest Clip Reactions

SPEAKER_07

This shit was this segment is called Mr.

SPEAKER_02

Tigger!

SPEAKER_00

And not Tigger from Money to Pooh.

SPEAKER_07

Now, who is Tigger, y'all?

SPEAKER_00

Come on, y'all. Don't be don't come on.

SPEAKER_07

We gotta tell him. Tigger is a radio personality.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Okay. That's what he does currently.

SPEAKER_07

Famously known for Rap City.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, come on, yeah. We ain't we ain't doing that.

SPEAKER_06

But he's made the bulk of his money as a radio. From being a radio person.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm sure there's a lot of things. That's a long story. You know, I'm sure he's syndicated over mad markets and all that.

SPEAKER_07

But you gotta think, bro. This I know a lot of 1900s niggas listen to this, but maybe niggas born in 1900s don't. And they might know just Big Tigger on the radio.

SPEAKER_00

Off not off B E T, off TV.

SPEAKER_07

If you're not interesting.

SPEAKER_00

You said the 1900s. Yeah, but then he said, There are people who listen to the cards. They might just know Big Tigger on the radio.

SPEAKER_01

They might have seen interviewing Kat Williams. Well, is he part of that drone where the where when Cat flamed the batteries?

SPEAKER_04

You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07

So but that is Tigger. Um, you know, he was arrested a week ago for well, he was arrested on battery and cruelty to children. So when we hear this, we hear Big Tigger on the radio, we ain't heard nothing from Tigger in a year. You're like, damn Tigger. Not in years ever. We like, damn Tigger, you was too, it's too good to be true. It's like a speedy out here fucking up bitches. You like, yo, like stay out the way. So then we hear that shit, like nigga like me. I ain't speaking on it last week or the week before because we be having to wait till shit play out. And this is why. This is why. Why? Because bitches lie. Here you go, man.

SPEAKER_04

Why do bitches lie?

SPEAKER_09

My phone? Get off of me.

SPEAKER_08

What do you need it for? What do you need it for? Get off me. Please get off the phone.

SPEAKER_09

Please get off the phone.

SPEAKER_08

My phone.

SPEAKER_09

Please get off of me. Please get off of it.

SPEAKER_08

Give me my phone.

SPEAKER_09

You're sinking my earring in my ear. Get off of me.

SPEAKER_08

Give me my phone.

SPEAKER_09

Please get off of me. You can stay right on the phone. You're a fucking man. Tigger, get off.

SPEAKER_08

Tigger, you are. I'm not doing it. She wants. She's drunk. She's drunk. You're literally stepping on her. I'm not stepping on her, Alex. I just want to. She can give me the phone, then it'd be over. She can give me the phone, then it would be over. Bro, just get over her. She's gonna give me. Give me my phone. Give me my phone.

SPEAKER_09

How much anybody else is gonna be telling me? If you say so.

SPEAKER_06

Anybody else wouldn't have my phone, bitch.

SPEAKER_00

I see that part of the shit.

SPEAKER_08

Mr. Tigger! Take it in my phone.

SPEAKER_06

Alright, one more, y'all. I gotta hear this.

SPEAKER_08

You do not see all the crap. She dropped. She dropped. You literally stepping over her. I'm not stepping on her, Alex. I just want to go. She can give me the phone and it'll be over. She can give me the phone and it'll be over. Bro, just get over her. She's gonna give me. Give me my phone.

SPEAKER_09

Get off of me.

SPEAKER_08

Give me my phone.

SPEAKER_09

I was anybody else. You might be telling me.

SPEAKER_08

Give me my phone.

SPEAKER_04

If you say something.

SPEAKER_09

Bro, just get over and you can be in the phone.

SPEAKER_02

Mr. Tigger! Mr. Tigger! Get off of her!

SPEAKER_06

I ain't gonna lie, that shit got me hot.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you was playing both sides. Why tigger a bitch? Why what's what's up?

SPEAKER_00

What side you taking? What's going on here?

SPEAKER_06

Tigger a bitch. Why the fuck she even thinks she can do that? I ought to knock that bitch upside her head at that point. I'm telling y'all now. I don't care who listening, all that.

SPEAKER_07

Da da da da da. No, you got my phone. You got my Zell. You got my Cash App.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, your phone is way more than just a phone.

SPEAKER_07

You got everything in my phone. They got some text messages or whatever you might, whatever you think you're looking for, that you looking for protections from me and this co-host that they said it was about or whatever. Just leave me that.

SPEAKER_00

Just give me the phone and dent.

SPEAKER_06

Why would I do that?

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm saying she could have.

SPEAKER_06

Why would I do that when I'm trying to make your life hell?

SPEAKER_00

Man, we're gonna get to her. Go ahead. Keep going. Let's finish up this story.

SPEAKER_07

And this is what I'm saying with Tigger. Tigger's a bitch. Any nigga who ends up with a woman like that, I assume they're the feminine one and they're the bitch every time. Every time. Because I know there's a nigga out there that right when he said, bitch give me my phone, she'd have handed that phone up. So he gotta be doing something feminine, something bitch like, to get in that position right there. It's not just cheetah. Something he made her feel like, whatever, like he ain't but there's no fear in that relationship. There's no fear. She knows, like, you gotta think, bro, she actually knows who the abusive niggas are. Girls know the difference between a nigga that a knocked the shit out of them and a nigga that won't. So when you make a nigga who won't knock the shit out of you, when you make him seem like he's abusive, that means you lost all respect for that man and you never had none for him. That's what that means. Every time. Now, ticker, what makes you a bitch?

SPEAKER_06

There's a million girls in the world. Why are you paying for that girl's life, the one that don't respect you? That's because you're lacking something inside every time.

SPEAKER_07

My bitch ain't gonna be the best looking, the best this, the best that, da da da. She's gonna respect me.

SPEAKER_04

That's it.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, because you're saying she's not the best of them things. No, even if she was. Oh, okay, okay, okay. You not putting respect first. That's it. You put so much other shit first to where her son feels like he can disrespect you. You ain't even a culture, you ain't even cultivate a relationship with him. I ain't played step-pop a lot, but the couple times I did, I'll tell you the little nigga would take my side over the when you doing it right, when you're doing a step-pop role right or the stepmom, they gonna take your side when you write over the other parent. Yeah, they ain't gonna they just ain't going for mom or dad's shit just because you heard him scream. Yeah. And and and another thing, Tigger, what makes you a bitch, Tigger? If you go and play stepdad, and this is for all men who listen, don't step back and let the little nigga grow up, however. Cause like, bro, you couldn't live in my household acting like that. This was calculated. Calculated by who? By the mom and son. Okay.

SPEAKER_06

I think that's just how they act now with Tigger. That's what I'm trying to say. I think that's just another day for Tigger. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_00

If he felt the way he felt, like the son, even I don't care how feminine you want to say he was, or he is, whatever. If he felt the way he felt, like get off mom, like get off of her, whatever, like where he kept yelling, at some point you would have put the camera down and got him off your mom.

SPEAKER_06

Not true. You don't know how these young niggas is cut nowadays, bro. They either super tough or they super bitch made.

SPEAKER_00

I was about to say, the young niggas I know nowadays, they had to upped it on Tigger.

SPEAKER_07

No, but think about them fluffy ones that's raised by their mom. What? Fluffy solve. These niggas is fluffy, bro.

SPEAKER_06

Oh no, you're hurting my mom.

SPEAKER_07

Because they're called these niggas, bro. Boy, the younger generation and us, the younger generation and us, do you know they really think that's abuse? Some of them really think that. Yeah, because who was portrayed in that video? That was Remember how we talked about how like the younger women are, like the uh girls around your uh your niece's age? Uh-huh. They would not think what Tigger was doing right there was okay. Tigger would be wrong ten out of ten times in that situation. Just let her get up. Why he not, why he not just just give her time to get up?

SPEAKER_06

That's what grown-ups see, bro.

SPEAKER_00

That's why I'm telling you, this was all stage. Get up. She put herself on the floor. Yeah, this was stage, bro. Well, before they went in, the mom told that son, keep the camera rolling.

SPEAKER_06

She's a wicked bitch, and Tigger chose to be with a wicked bitch, and that's why Tigger's a bitch. Drop the drop the bomb, Chris. I know you got something more her. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know you got something on her.

SPEAKER_07

Speaking of her wickedness.

SPEAKER_06

Thank you.

SPEAKER_07

What's her name? Alicia Brown. Okay. Do you know she was the primary and still is the primary suspect of her daughter's disappearance from 2029.

SPEAKER_05

Um, excuse me, 2019?

SPEAKER_00

No. Yes. Her daughter, so she got another. Her daughter had gone missing in Maryland. Uh, and she just now, and uh ever since all of this happened, and see, this is this is another thing, people been trying to tell Tigger, like, yo, stay away from this girl. She's vindictive, she played these cop games. This isn't the first time she's tried to get somebody hemmed up with the law for some domestic violence shit. But the fact that she also was the primary suspect in her daughter's disappearance case in Maryland, which she was pretty much on the run for since 2019.

SPEAKER_01

Because they just went and arrested her ass down in Georgia, served her warrant for that charge right after this bullshit, right after she dropped all this bullshit. Also, she's arrested now. Right now, in Maryland, locked up.

The Missing Child Allegation Twist

SPEAKER_07

Because of her daughter disappearances in 2019. What type of man are you, Tigger? You seen how you heard that news, LB, and the man in you was like, what the fuck is this bitch on? He paid for her life. Um what yeah, I want to know when they got together. This is nasty. Chris, think about it. Think about it. Think about it, think about this. No, no, no. Yo, when this shit would have been over. Talking about Jay, Jay's an LB. Think about how crazy think about how crazy Tigger is. If he was with her before this happened, and then it happened, he's insane. If he got with her after this, he's even with her.

SPEAKER_00

What type of nigga is this? That's why he did the show in the basement. What type of nigga is this? That's where my mind went.

SPEAKER_07

Like, you was with her if you was with her before, and you just let you just let the missing child disappear. Rock, like it was. Like nothing, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Y'all made it for each other.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Y'all in some y'all in this on like some traffic and shit.

SPEAKER_07

That's what that's what that's what the red flag that would go off in my mind. Immediately. I couldn't be around nobody who got a who got a missing kid who's not trying to do everything. I can't talk right now, Frank. I'm recording. Uh, you gotta give me a second. Alright. That's what I was trying to tell you. I recorded at 12. I told you to come while I was going. Gotcha. Alright. Alright. I just think they both sick, bro.

SPEAKER_00

He smokes. Who? Uh, Tigger and her, bro. Yeah, yeah. They got some shit sick, bro. They got some shit going on, bro. Cause I'm saying even the even his whole approach to getting the phone was like weird. Yeah, bro. It wasn't he wasn't trying to get the phone. I'm about to say, if you wanted that phone, bro.

SPEAKER_07

Like, I know I know if I was ticking the phone. See what I'm saying, Chris? I would've got that. See what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? Yo, give me the phone. Yo.

SPEAKER_06

Ain't no yo.

SPEAKER_07

Ain't no y'all. Uh did him. Yo. Well, you gotta be careful. Yeah. Be careful about what? She steal my stuff, man.

SPEAKER_01

Her daughter disappeared already. Man. Tigger would have gone missing. He would have never showed up to the radio show.

SPEAKER_07

If it was me or her, it'd have been her. That's all I'm telling you. And that little kid talking about Mr.

SPEAKER_00

Tigger. Mr. Tigger. That is hilarious. That was the fun that and that wasn't nothing even funny about, but that was hilarious, bro. And I'm saying, bro, this is what makes it even more staged than me. Why y'all walking around calling that man Tigger? Like, like I thought that too. That was a little weird. It was like a little weird. Like, bro, like I know y'all call him like by another name or his real name. Like, we know him as Tigger. So if you making a video that I'm about to put out to the world and I want more eyes on it, of course I'ma say Tigger. Nah.

SPEAKER_01

So call me by my street name and my life.

SPEAKER_06

Nah, his mom was on some whole shit.

SPEAKER_01

Like, so calling me bae or straight government.

SPEAKER_06

Nah.

SPEAKER_07

Nah. The mom invited Tigger over. The little little young boy. Who is this? Oh nah, this is my friend Mr. Tigger. Right, Uncle. Yeah. When niggas' moms just be fucking niggas, they'll put the mister in front of anything.

SPEAKER_00

But they nah, they married. That's his wife. Say this ain't no bitch. He just fucking, that's his wife. Yeah, this, yeah, this ain't.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, Mr. Tigger, she's fucking him for money.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. In this video, what stage, bro?

SPEAKER_07

Call me. That's like if I was Gucci, man, my stepson's like, Mr. Gucci man. Like, nah, y'all use me. Mr. Burr. Y'all using me. Gucci get off the phone. Mr. Burr! Like, we knew what's going on, game.

SPEAKER_01

They never walked in the house calling him Gucci before. Now all of a sudden they just call you that.

SPEAKER_07

I don't trust bitches like that, bro. Any nigga who deals with a woman like that, bro, that'll be on you 90 million times.

SPEAKER_00

And even if the kids do call you that, she was saying it too.

SPEAKER_03

That's what I'm saying. In that moment, your girl is either calling you whatever your little bag, boo, whatever, or straight government. She's not going to your street name, to your alias.

SPEAKER_05

Like, what? None of my girls ever call me by my street name.

SPEAKER_01

Especially if it's a street.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not in reads, quote unquote, arguing.

SPEAKER_07

No, bro. Yeah, let me and Chris. Let me see Chris and his girl arguing. She's like, rock. Rock the fella. I'll be like, I don't know what type of bullshit y'all got going on, but this needs to stop. That's nasty. That's nasty. She could really only say Chris. Because even if she says Christopher, I'm gonna be like, what's going on? Yeah, nah. Don't even pull that card with me. He said the alias. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Like, what? I thought about that when I was listening. Keep calling him Tigger, Mr. Tegger. Mr. Yeah, first of all.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I get where he's going with this. That's the setup.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, we gotta let it know. We gotta let it know it's you. I gotta broadcast this as you too. You may look like question. Yeah, no questions about who it is in this video.

SPEAKER_06

And now stepping away from our radio show.

SPEAKER_00

And he answered too. Oh, he is stepped away. That's corny. Got no other choice. I mean he does. I would have thought this. I would have thought this in the court of public opinion and in the courts.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, especially now that this video is out. It's gonna be a process. I can feel you all right. Shit might have got hot the first couple days. Damn, take it out here, being bitches. And like, yo, that's not even me, nigga. Like, y'all should. I thought y'all would know me at this point. I ain't never did nothing.

SPEAKER_07

And the reason why I'm rocking with Chris even more is because I know the videos out because I know what I did. So I'm staying, I'm going crazy. Standing. I'm going crazy all week.

SPEAKER_05

And I know, I know this little nigga was recording, so I know what y'all got.

SPEAKER_07

But that means he's not leaving.

SPEAKER_05

No, he's not leaving at all.

SPEAKER_00

But it's not the reason why he was separated from the radio show, though, is because it's not his radio show.

SPEAKER_07

It's his show. God cheese. But he's still working on the gonna do you a solid.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we're gonna still pay you. Yo, go sit down to go sit down to the block. It's over.

SPEAKER_07

Because you'll have a hundred people calling in who don't give a fuck about that second video.

SPEAKER_01

It's like, you're a woman abuser.

SPEAKER_07

Who wants to hear that on a on a radio station? Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_00

So once this is cleared up, I heard me they ain't trying to have that playing behind them like that. Like, yo, just go ahead and chill, bro. Once this is once all this shit gets thrown out and dismissed and all that bullshit. And now, especially now that she got fucking locked up for this for this kidnapping shit. Come on, y'all. She probably knew that kidnapping shit was up too. That's why I'm telling you, bro. This video seemed even more staged.

SPEAKER_07

She probably knew the walls was closing. Because you know when them people on bro, you know. They don't just be on you since yesterday. If they've been suspecting you since 2019, I'm on James. Bro, your lawyer called you and said, yo, the police got a little bit more. Yeah. They they asked. They got our man from Michigan like that. They want you to cover it. Calling their lawyers before they call the police.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They ask, yo, the police might want you to come in and talk to them again.

SPEAKER_07

Because once you make a certain amount of money.

SPEAKER_05

The question they're asking about you again.

SPEAKER_07

Because you know, once you make a certain amount of money, and I know y'all know this, but anybody listening, you know there's just people who try to get around you just to line you. Oh, for sure. But it gets it gets it gets deeper than rap. It's like if me and you sitting right here, and let's say you up, you the one up, uh huh. We in your mansion. I'm like, yo, Chris, my barber Mel, shout out to Mel. I'm like, yo, Mel, about to come through and cut my hair. And now something like Let anything go wrong.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right. Now y'all trying to sue me.

SPEAKER_07

He's coming for your bread. Trying to sue me. And he has every right to get it. Oh, you say if he just comes in the crib. If he even just walk in the crib, if he's by Chris's crib, by Chris. Chris don't even gotta be there. Unless say a dog sneeze on him. I was just about to say the name of the lawsuit for sure.

SPEAKER_05

This nigga just this nigga was just talking about that shit. By how his girl uh invited like a nail tech over the door nails, and one of the dogs got at her and it and try to sue him.

SPEAKER_03

Well, she did sue him, yeah. And they had to pay a couple couple bins.

SPEAKER_00

It wasn't nothing crazy, but the fact that it could happen like that, and they they were definitely coming for more, they just settled on the number because it's like, get this up out of there.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah and fellas, sometimes that person trying to lie on you, it's your girl.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, it could even have been you, like in just in that scenario.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, it might be Mel who's coming at me, but him and Quills orchestrated the whole thing.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, they already knew, like, yo, come to the crew, we'll make it look like this accident happened. When you go to the bathroom, slipping for.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, and if I'm in this scheme, I'm gonna say, Yeah, Chris got it. I'm gonna tell him exactly where to fall, exactly where the camera at.

SPEAKER_00

You might set it up a little bit. You might be drinking water earlier in the day. Drop the water right at the job, and they lined it the whole time.

SPEAKER_06

And don't let it be a dog involvement. Attack.

SPEAKER_07

Nigga know how the dog whistle after the phone and make the dog go crazy and shit. Yeah, yo. That shit is crazy. Attack.

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Yo.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, yo. So what about pause? Talk about a dog.

SPEAKER_06

I know, but just pause.

SPEAKER_07

Attack was cool.

SPEAKER_01

Attack whistles better. Attack was better. That's what you said.

SPEAKER_07

Yo.

Terrion Arnold And Getting It Back

SPEAKER_07

Okay. What about your man TA, bro? Who is that? Terrian Arnold. Taron Arnold. Who the fuck is that? Oh, I did look that up. The football player from the Lions.

SPEAKER_00

From your school, bro. My school. I ain't the same. Alabama.

SPEAKER_07

Chris ain't been to school a man.

SPEAKER_04

I ain't gonna lie. Yo, that fucked my mama up. I said, What you talking about? He can't be talking about dude.

SPEAKER_02

What the fuck is he talking about? He went to rack.

SPEAKER_07

He went the rack is crazy. Nah, but Terry Arnold, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hold on, what do you? What he on? What he did? Chris, you don't know? I don't. Alright, just put it this way. Not off names. Do you know how good he is? How good he was. Good he was, alright. Just know the lines released him. What'd he do? Alright, so around they said in February, some people came and like stole something from him, allegedly. Oh, he got it back in blood? 100%. 100%. Tying niggas up. Oh, yeah. Kidnapping Georges. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, like, and Chris, he the he the bag. But he went on the plate too, though. Oh, of course. No. What the fuck do you mean?

SPEAKER_01

Of course. Why are you going on the plate? Because niggas rob me. And I need that get back. This is right where I said when keeping it real goes wrong.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_06

James did say that, but there's something in this world called man law.

SPEAKER_07

I got it. And when somebody takes something from you, nigga, if you not gonna be the person that guarantee to get it back, you might never get it back if you not gonna go get it back yourself.

SPEAKER_00

It's the same way. Alright, so back to the previous situation. If they set you up, if Carlos come to cut his hair and all that shit, are you about to shoot both of them for if I find out that they both lime? Oh yeah, yeah. They both gotta get cut.

SPEAKER_07

I think suing, I think, I think suing and take and robbing is. Oh, two different things. That's the only reality. You took something off my body. Yeah, that's that's the part.

SPEAKER_01

That's what it was or whatever.

SPEAKER_07

Out my crib, like that's what makes it kind of different, versus you like creating a scheme.

SPEAKER_05

Right. There's some niggas he knew that lined him.

SPEAKER_07

That's what I don't yeah. I mean, he had the norm to know to go back at these niggas.

SPEAKER_05

I was probably feeding these niggas.

SPEAKER_07

Right. But this would come with that game, though, bro. No, but I'm telling you what else come with it was certain niggas. I got you. Yeah, there's that other side where nigga, I don't care that I play for the National Football League. I don't care nothing about none of this football shit, actually. I hear you. Three, I'm already rich. Even if I go to jail, I'ma still come out rich.

SPEAKER_05

My family good, everybody around me good. No.

SPEAKER_07

And you don't spend money in jail. That's one thing you can guarantee. You don't spend money in jail.

SPEAKER_00

He's gonna be spending money.

SPEAKER_07

On who? On what? On CEOs. No. No. No. Okay. He will have jail niggas doing what he wants before he even gets to the COs. Well, that's gonna cost money too. Negative.

SPEAKER_00

It ain't gonna be that much. Cheap. I'm about to say it ain't gonna be that much.

SPEAKER_07

Cheap.

SPEAKER_00

It ain't gonna be that much. How much we think he made so far?

SPEAKER_07

You're you're you're you're you're 20. Talk about forget about how much he made. Think about how much stuff is worth in jail. It has nothing to do with how much he made. Even if he can fill up his commissary every month and he can buy the max whatever he can buy, he's in the top 1% of the jail.

SPEAKER_01

Nigga, I'm worth more than the jail.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

Private equity. We was in flow state before you said that.

SPEAKER_05

But you're right.

SPEAKER_00

But I do agree, like, there's nothing in the jail that's he's not gonna be able to afford uh or give him the best, the best like.

SPEAKER_07

And you know, it's jail niggas, so he's gonna get a lot of love for how he went about that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And you was him and you did that. And how much did he make? You looking it up? Yeah, uh his rookie, he was only on his rookie contract. He was a four-year, $14 million. He's good.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know how this play out, though. If he gets all because I also heard uh Mello broke it down on his pod too about um how much you actually make when you start paying taxes and all that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. He got 14, he got about five to six M's.

SPEAKER_00

And I and I'm gonna say he probably blew some.

SPEAKER_06

Negative. He literally said on an interview he has never spent a dollar from his NFL money.

SPEAKER_00

And I only reason why I can agree to that because he was in Alabama.

SPEAKER_06

He literally said he literally said he has not spent a dollar.

SPEAKER_00

That's his quote. Yeah, so I was about to say that he probably got NIL money sitting there.

SPEAKER_07

So back to the main point, people. I'm I'm I I bring that money up to say he's accomplished in life. So people might look at him crazy for going to go get his shit back in blood, but he probably using all of those reasons to be like, I'm definitely getting my shit when loser draw.

SPEAKER_05

Nigga, at the end of the day, like you said, I'm a man. Niggas niggas tested my manhood. Like, I don't know exactly what happened to him, how he got robbed or whatever. But just imagine, bro, you know, some niggas you've been feeding for X amount of years, and they got you hemmed up on your knees. Way worse.

SPEAKER_07

The Gucci video dropped way worse than that. That was that was the polite robbing.

SPEAKER_06

I don't think this nigga got robbed that way.

SPEAKER_07

But I don't know. I think they just stole something from him, right, LB?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think they stole something like from his crib or something.

SPEAKER_07

They were saying basically like This is still a cornerback. He still would have put the beats on niggas probably in real life. I mean, if niggas got three, four Draco's line on you. He seems like based off of what he did after niggas upping it on him right there. I don't think that would have mattered.

SPEAKER_05

I think three niggas upping it on him right there, and he's just sitting back, like, all right. But right there, he already started plotting.

SPEAKER_07

Bro, they stole 250,000 from in an Airbnb rental.

SPEAKER_04

I'm going to go get that, LB. Fuck is you talking about?

SPEAKER_07

Quarter M?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I'm going where we come from? And I never spent a dollar of my money yet. You trying to spend it? Where we come from? Quarter M. That's probably old money. That's probably your chance. I don't, I can't say that. It has to be because you never spent the NFL money. I can't say that. It has to be. How? Because if you never spend the NFL money, let's say it's. Nigga, my money was in my Airbnb. I wasn't spending it there. I had it. I had my money there. I don't mean I was spending it. That's where that's where I chose to keep my money.

SPEAKER_00

You spent it. Nah. Nah, nah, nah. You don't need to be the one to go get that 250 back. That's my meme.

SPEAKER_07

And I'm saying to you, let's say.

SPEAKER_00

What's niggas doing with a quarter M anyway in cash in the Airbnb? I don't think it was cash though, Chris. I'm saying it could have been changed. It just said $2,000, $250,000 worth of. You know what I mean? He lost $250,000 in the Airbnb. So it could have been some jewelry. Could have been jewelry chains, and we already overvalued that shit anyway. He could have bought that shit for $50, $60, $70.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

It's just worth $250.

SPEAKER_06

Nigga could have traded his crypto wallet to the crypto wallet.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but whatever it is, it was $250,000. Hey, we was just talking about it. $40 million for his next contract for $250,000. I get you want to get everything back. But my nigga, you don't gotta go on the first drill, the second drill, the first. Like you tie him up, put him in the basement in Redding, and I'm gonna come by after.

SPEAKER_07

Same amount of time I'm gonna get.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_07

Now Jane, now James is talking conspiracy. I'm about to say, now you now you murdered for hire. Now you dirt. When you start adding niggas in this, like you're gonna your time goes up. Huh? Durky was wilding.

SPEAKER_00

He was hiring niggas in the other cities, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

He was hiring too many people, Chris. Yeah, we talking, we're talking that pay for hire shit at the top level. Fuck is you talking about?

SPEAKER_00

We know who we're going to get. I'm not about to be the one tiniest niggas up.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, but you're but you're but you're using money to justify man law, and that's where you're you losing me. You like, oh, well, you about to make 40 million dollars. I'm saying that don't mean nothing to certain niggas, if especially when they already rich and accomplished. Bro, these athletes get robbed a lot. You see what I'm saying? And some niggas ain't going, LB. Some niggas ain't going. Yeah. Some niggas just not going. They don't care.

SPEAKER_01

I gotta, I gotta be cool with getting robbed for a quarter M.

SPEAKER_07

Am I doing that knowing I'ma make 40 mil? No. Knowing, no. But if I did not know, bro, that's enough money where you can crash out, bro, and be cool with spending the rest of your life in jail.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but he wasn't. I'm not saying he was a top five corner, but he was definitely gonna get a second contract for sure.

SPEAKER_07

Yes. And all the reports coming back. He a nice upstanding kid, respectful, good energy in the locker room. Can't play with everybody. I'm sorry. Some people in this lifetime had to be made an example of. I don't care how much money I got, not to get Grimm on y'all. Somebody touch my daughter, it's a rat. That's different. Yo, saying that's different, but there are people in this world that would be like, oh, well, this person's about to make 20 mil. And they will they will do that and be like, well, he should have just got the cops involved. There are people who think like that, bro.

NBA Gambling Claims And Integrity

SPEAKER_05

We just watched Malik Beasley throw his career away for $2,000 to a nigga who wasn't in the NBA no more. Why was Malik Beasley? I would have smacked the shit out of Ed Davis.

SPEAKER_06

Alleged.

SPEAKER_07

Speak allegedly when you're talking about Malik Beasley. What's alleged about it? We don't know all the facts yet. Man, I seen that. I seen that game tape, bro. I seen that nigga get that rebound and being. He's speaking on if he's cheating or not. I'm saying if he actually gonna face the consequences we think he's gonna face. There's a lot of motherfuckers we thought this, thought that right back in the NBA.

SPEAKER_04

Who?

SPEAKER_07

All of these niggas has played again after these cheating allegations. Who? Terry Roger playing? Yes, he has played. No, he has not played since that happened.

SPEAKER_05

No, he has not. No, he has not. Not a single minute or game since they came and got him. No, he has not. Chelsea Bill has lost his job. All Miami Heat niggas been doing is bitching. Bro, this had came out. Because they couldn't even trade the combat.

SPEAKER_07

These things. I know James. Thank you. All of them. Since he has since he got indicted, he has not played. Has he played since we heard about these rumors of because did Malik Beasley get indicted? Yes. He just got indicted, yes.

SPEAKER_05

But he hasn't even he hasn't he all this year. Malik Beasley ain't played a single minute this year, baby.

SPEAKER_07

I have heard these cheating allegations and seen these niggas cheat and seen these niggas play after it was confirmed that they were cheating. You just said it. You just said Terry Rogier. You trying to use the word indicted. I'm saying no. I seen it say breaking news. Forget the indictment. Breaking news, Terry Rogier has been caught up and da-da-da-da. And I seen him play after that. I have. What was the other boy who got caught? The first nigga who fought. That was Michael Porter Jr. It was Michael Porter Jr.

SPEAKER_05

I mean his brother, but he didn't play after that.

SPEAKER_07

No, that's because he was the only one that was it was him cheating. It wasn't like a whole scheme of a nigga hired him. No, it was him. Right.

SPEAKER_05

But see, and this and this and that's and that's the point where I said once they got indicted, they definitely ain't play again. Because I think the niggas who was in the scheme, yo, yeah, we know they cheating. FBI. Yo, NBA, these niggas cheating. Let them go. And that's why I'm telling you, I don't know if I don't know if Elnie Beasley's gonna come back. Because it's a lot, it's a lot more than just them going on. We got a whole there's a whole ring of niggas. Let them go. They're gonna play two more games. Because I think Terry Rosier played two more games after that, and then he went and got him. And then he didn't even like he played, but he ain't even gonna be.

SPEAKER_07

I was about to say, because I know what I seen. He played.

SPEAKER_05

He played, but he ain't even played.

SPEAKER_07

No, he ain't played his full minutes. That's all. He was on restricted minutes. Then uh But my main point, even all of that is cheating. Can't trust him. And I'm saying I don't know how they're gonna play it with Malik Beasley because the last I heard from him, Giannis called him while he was on Neon's stream the other day. And was like, dang Malik Beasley, why you get mad at me for dancing? Remember, he did the little jewel. He was like, yo, bro, it's the way you danced over me. He was like, he's like, Giannis, like, everything good with you? You like, yeah, everything good. He was like, I'm in Miami, get up with me.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know, I don't know what the consequences are gonna actually be for these niggas. It don't seem like they're gonna get DeJounte Porter. I mean, what's his name? Jontay Porter. Yeah, it don't seem like it's going that way. It's looking like that. These niggas ain't play basketball all year. I don't think they're coming back.

SPEAKER_05

They're not coming back.

SPEAKER_07

But I don't think they're gonna get a ban for life. I think they're gonna get like a black ball. Yes. I don't think they're getting a band for life. NBA is gonna make examples out of all these game niggas, I think. Him, Chauncey.

SPEAKER_05

Chauncey never gonna work in the league again.

SPEAKER_07

See, you're saying different things than what I'm saying. You're saying different things. I'm saying, I don't think any, like now I say it, I don't know if any of them are ever gonna work in the NBA again. I don't know. But are they gonna be banned from the NBA? Because they're doing the same shit as Jonte. It's no different. Yeah, yeah. No, and I think once it comes down, yes, they're gonna, I believe they're gonna ban. You believe they're gonna get banned.

SPEAKER_06

Chauncey Bill ups. Let's name these names.

SPEAKER_07

It's easy to ban a nigga like Terry Rozier. Right, right. Not even because now we got a finals MVP, another coach.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, oh, well, Chauncey and the pre- but out of out of the current niggas, Terry Rosier makes the most money out of everybody that's involved in this shit right now. It's about the prestige.

SPEAKER_07

He would I get that, but because he's still nobody, he's still a $26 million player. But in two years, if he never played last team with Charlotte, right? In two years, Miami.

SPEAKER_05

If he never plays again, and this is what fucked up. Charlotte traded him to Miami knowing it, knowing he had this shit. So he did all of this shit in Charlotte, got was hurt, got traded to Miami, only played like two games from Miami, and then Miami's been bitching about it ever since. Because they couldn't trade the contract. His uh money was still counting against their cap and everything. So they were just stuck in limbo with this nigga, and then and then it comes out as oh, wait, everybody knew. NBA, y'all knew, and y'all let this trade go down. Charlotte knew knew this nigga was about to be, and y'all let this trade go down, and Miami just was stuck. Exactly.

SPEAKER_06

So, this is my question. Do you think they're going to have to be found guilty by the feds for the NBA to ban them? No. No.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_06

It has to work that way.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, it does. Yes, it does. They can literally sue the NBA if it does not go that way. You cannot kick me out for something that I'm not guilty of by the courts. You can't. I don't know. I um well sometimes.

SPEAKER_00

It depends on what the courts are or the charges the courts are charging you with.

SPEAKER_05

If we the courts might charge you with one thing, but within the within them trying to charge you with that, the findings come out that you bet on NBA games. I don't give a fuck if you get that charge or not.

SPEAKER_07

You're not coming back to the city. Speaking on Terry Rogier specifically, forget betting, but we're talking about proving that he took part in the Yeah, I'm saying if that's found not guilty, I think what can they have to blackball him?

SPEAKER_05

I'm saying it's two different things. You might not have been involved in the whole scheme.

SPEAKER_07

I'm saying everything not guilty. Whatever the charges are, if he's considered not guilty by the courts, not not involved at all, I'm saying not guilty. Whatever they're charging him for, not guilty. But look, just think of it like just think of it like it's a job, right? Let's say the NBA is the job, right?

SPEAKER_00

And Terry Roger is working there, and let's put theft on the table. The criminal charge for theft could be like, oh, if he's still over a thousand dollars. But let's say he took $900 out the register. You think I'm still gonna let him work here ever again?

SPEAKER_07

Right, but you still have to find evidence that I stole any money telling you court wise.

SPEAKER_00

We have the video of him putting $900 in his pocket at register five.

SPEAKER_07

I'm saying you can't work here. A lot of I get what you're saying. Video-wise, a lot of these niggas look like they cheating. Video-wise. Like, can we agree on that? 100%. I'm saying if that's their evidence, and let's say that evidence doesn't stick, we're with they can't say maybe Chauncey Billup's involved, this move, but we have no proof because it's innocent until proven guilty. We have no proof that Terry Rogier was actually involved. You telling me they still gonna ban him?

SPEAKER_00

There's some kind of proof. I think at that point, I think at that point that's where your black ball comes in. Gotcha. I think at that point he's gonna get his money. He'll he'll end up getting his money, but yeah, nah. That's where the black ball will come in over some. Nah, bro.

SPEAKER_07

Because I uh sign you. Even even gambling, I feel like they're starting to take this seriously. But the even re- the reason why I'm even arguing this back is because I feel like they don't the NFL, I mean they don't care for real. They don't care to they'll let you beat the shit out of your girl. Wait a year, you'll be back. I think once once you talk about once you start talking about the integrity of the game, they they have to care. That part they have to care because it's it's bigger than it. You know how much money is putting on betting, like on the game. So if I can put somebody in there like who we don't trust and we keep them in the lead, it's just gonna look even worse for us.

SPEAKER_00

It looks like we're setting this up. And that's what I'm asking y'all.

SPEAKER_07

Analytically wise, I don't hear me out. Analytically wise, from the top, I know what y'all saying. Do you think the people who run this big business think that the integrity of the game will change the gambling numbers? No, because there's more people cheating than that gambles already. Yes.

SPEAKER_05

No, if I know niggas, it's separate, it's a separate thing. If I know niggas is running around your league fixing games, I'm not betting.

unknown

Chris.

SPEAKER_07

They fixing games already. But what I'm saying is these these three people, but we talk about unknown that like it's not.

SPEAKER_00

So so I'm not banning them. You can think it all you want.

SPEAKER_07

You don't know and you don't know Terry Rogier's shit. That's what I'm trying to say. You'll never know, no.

SPEAKER_03

But that's that's why they're that's why they've been indicted because they feel like they do know.

SPEAKER_05

They feel like they have the smoking gun evidence of these niggas talking about it, your play on the court, in and out of the way. You're saying the feds of y'all niggas getting the money and breaking down the.

SPEAKER_06

You're speaking on the feds, you're not speaking on the NFL or NBA. No. Got you, okay.

SPEAKER_07

And then I can see how the feds would want to protect that that's that's who I mean if they but I don't I don't see that as protecting the dollar. Because people are gonna gamble regardless. Like for everybody who thinks the game is rigged, there's another person trying to take advantage of that being rigged.

SPEAKER_05

But for every for every person that I agree.

SPEAKER_03

But I think I think there's if if you know these games are fixed and rigged in either way, how the fuck could I how if I knew that, why the fuck am I gonna go put my money up?

SPEAKER_05

Chris game.

SPEAKER_07

I know what I think they're gonna bet regardless. James, I know what Chris is saying, but I'm trying to tell him we do that already. We do that already.

SPEAKER_00

Everybody's seen the Malik Beasley layup, they seen the Terry Roger news, they seen the Chauncey Bills had the.

SPEAKER_07

We seen how they do backdoor covers, we see all of that we see. And everybody went to go bet the next day.

SPEAKER_00

But what I'm saying is the NBA will take it out.

SPEAKER_04

And timeout, Chris, and timeout. This is what we'll say. After we lose on a week we know we supposed to win, guess what we say?

SPEAKER_07

They got us. They cheated us. And guess what we do? We load that money back up.

SPEAKER_03

Ain't gonna give me that we can't niggas could feel like that, and now and I'm with that. But I think if it is a known fact, then that just changes everything. That's what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_07

They never make it a known fact, they'll tell you eight years from now, like, yeah, deflate gate. That's what they do. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, there are some people that really think all sports are rigged. I'm only saying that to say the get the feeling of gambling. I just feel like the NBA shouldn't care about niggas cheating on games because everybody's still gonna gamble and they're gonna gamble more. Right. You just got you just gotta make an example of it, though.

SPEAKER_00

Just like the MLB like Pete Rose and them. They got him up out there, bro.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Just put a ban on them, they can't go to the Hall of Fame. Or, or if you don't put a ban, you just do the black ball drone where like you start seeing people that should have gone, like Chauncey should have probably gone to the Hall of Fame, right? At six years, 20 years down the line, and you start seeing other people go ahead of him. You'd be like, yo, Chauncey was kind of better than that. Yeah, I mean, Terry and Pete Rose was different.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he was a good one.

SPEAKER_06

No, no, no, but he never betted on unders. And he never betted for them to lose. I don't he only better for him to get hits and them to win.

SPEAKER_03

That's what they say. I don't know. I don't it ain't fine.

SPEAKER_06

All right, there we go again. We got him again. Chris is right. We got him again.

SPEAKER_07

That's what they tell us to keep the integrity of the game.

SPEAKER_04

But the point I'm making to you is that when you're lying at that level, you know they're lying.

SPEAKER_07

Like you know what's the state. You know what I'm saying? They know there's no integrity in the game. They might rebrand it and do some some, they might drop an anti cheat shit or something.

SPEAKER_05

All of this is crazy, like all of this with this better.

SPEAKER_03

And shit is crazy because even the nigga from um Texas Tech, the quarterback, who got banned from NCAA for gambling uh while he was on Indiana or some shit, and then he tried to transfer to Texas Tech, and they was trying to get him to play. And first the judge said he could play, and then they stepped in and said, nah. And now the NFL canceled the supplemental draft.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's this boy you're talking about where they said he tried to go in the supplemental draft so he can't.

SPEAKER_03

And the NFL said, nah. We ain't even doing that for you, nigga. You got a gambling problem. We don't need it.

SPEAKER_06

We don't need it. I ain't seeing what's going on with the NBA. We don't need none of that.

SPEAKER_01

I don't even think he was nice enough for them to even he was nice? Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

You can't be nice. You gotta be nice if you're getting that Texas tech money. Yeah. That's on God.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

They're giving out the most brands.

SPEAKER_05

For real. Yeah.

unknown

Oh yeah, damn.

SPEAKER_05

Teams teams were even looking forward to him going in the supplemental draft.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Gotcha. Well, fuck that one up.

SPEAKER_06

All right. Uh niggas want to talk about.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, nah, this gambling shit is fucking with niggas.

Brown For A Brown And Boston Talk

SPEAKER_06

Niggas want to talk about a brown for a brown or streamer university.

SPEAKER_07

I mean James U pimp. Man, brown for brown. Alright, brown for a brown. I just was thinking to myself, I said, yo, this is fucking crazy. Philly got Jalen Brown. Boston got AJ Brown. It's like y'all made a trade for them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It feels like that.

SPEAKER_06

And another thing I want to say, it seems like the Browns are where they belong based off of how they act and carry it.

SPEAKER_07

That other AJ with the Patriots jersey, oh, when I was four, Patriots Matt, take your ass back up there to racist fucking boss to LB. You know how they carry it. Yeah, and no black people. And the way Jalen carry it. Yo, I love my peoples.

SPEAKER_04

Why y'all think I'm smart?

SPEAKER_07

Most niggas.

SPEAKER_04

This is how smart niggas supposed to be. Y'all NBA niggas is dumb.

SPEAKER_07

I'm not really that smart. I'm just out here. I took care of my whole family. I love black people. That nigga says bar is in hell for NBA niggas, bro. Come to Philly, man.

SPEAKER_01

Talk to them like yo, they probably dumb as hell.

SPEAKER_07

Come to Philly, yo. They gonna love you, Jalen Brown. They're gonna love you, bro. You heard they said they was related?

unknown

Who?

SPEAKER_07

Why? Jalen Brown, yeah, they said they grant grandpa was brothers or something.

SPEAKER_05

They grant Jalen Brown and AJ Brown?

SPEAKER_07

That's what Jalen Brown said in some uh in his interview.

SPEAKER_05

Jalen Brown, don't ever say that again, bro.

SPEAKER_07

And he lied. I know. Oh, we looked up, I know Jalen Brown. You gotta stop before you get to Philly, stop that shit, because that's called Diggy in Jalen Brown. I'll let you know right now. I'm gonna let you know right now. And that's not the bull you want to attach yourself to. That's what I'm saying. We don't have to stop fucking with him. Don't attach yourself to AJ. We is not fucking with him, gangs.

SPEAKER_04

Leave that alone. We don't care that that's your cousin.

SPEAKER_01

I'm trying to look at you a little weird. Like gonna act like him eventually.

SPEAKER_03

This is one of them names where you pick and choose your family. Don't know that nigga.

SPEAKER_01

That's not your family, bro. You don't know that nigga.

SPEAKER_07

Brown for a brown, man. He just a brown. That's it. Y'all just y'all don't know. Because I think one of them grew up in Mississippi, the other one was in Georgia anyway. So and Jalen Brown, wait till you see, bro, how them people in Philly live, bro. You gonna I I know that motherfuckers in Boston didn't inspire you to do book bag drives and this and that and that nigga.

SPEAKER_05

Man water ice. With the people. Jalen Brown gonna do, he's gonna do a lot of, he's gonna do some good shit for Philly, for the city of Philly.

SPEAKER_07

Niggas ain't gonna rob him. None of that. Let AJ Brown come out there tomorrow. He's free game. Yeah, AJ Brown. He's free game. For sure.

SPEAKER_03

I was just thinking when you said niggas ain't gonna rob Jalen Brown. I mean, I guess not. I guess they're gonna rob me.

SPEAKER_06

I promise you they won't, bro. I promise you, bro.

SPEAKER_03

I only seen that type of shit uh for Lou. Like.

SPEAKER_06

No, AI.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_05

Nobody was even thinking about robbing Chuck.

SPEAKER_07

No, but the difference is AI was AI be downtown at Fridays. Exactly. No security. Everybody felt like they knew him. That's what he had. Yeah, nobody never tried it. But you think it's because he was nice? Nah, the city fucked with that. I'm telling you, it's how he won about it.

SPEAKER_00

I think the love they giving Jalen Brown right now is already like I think.

SPEAKER_07

See what I'm saying? I think niggas niggas are trying beat.

SPEAKER_05

I was about to say, niggas will run down on them beat right now. They're fucking beat up.

SPEAKER_07

But I'm telling you, Jalen Brown can ride through the city right now. Drop top. Full jewelry on. Niggas gonna say. Young boys on the property. I'm telling you, bro. He got it right now. Alright, we'll give him three weeks. He's too pro-black for that city, bro. No, he even got three weeks. He has all the way till they see what he does in the playoffs on God. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

How many years of not getting out the second round before he get robbed?

SPEAKER_07

Two. Two. But but but even then, but even then, he gets he might get two or three because where Philly at right now, they're starting to just blame it on the team. Once Jalen Brown comes there and nothing happens, we feel like we're gonna blame it on the organization. That's where they're at right now as a city. I feel like we curse. So if Jalen comes here, because we've seen what he's doing for it. Like we seen him almost. And he fucks them up. Bro, he almost beat, he almost beat us last year. Like we seen it. Like we went to the to the depths of like he gardening B last year. Like it was it was I'm watching him give all effort. You know what I'm saying? I gotta fuck with him. I feel that. But but in B, nah.

SPEAKER_00

It's fucking he can't even come through for a little kid. He can't even come through for a summer camp. None of that.

SPEAKER_04

I want Coop to knock his fucking block off.

SPEAKER_07

No, knock his fucking block off. Because I don't like that. He will my he's my man too. I just don't. And that's why I say a brown for a brown. It was a good trade, bro. It was a good trade.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_07

If you ever been to Boston, bro, you will understand what Kyrie was talking about. What Jalen Brown be. Bro, they shit in Bill Russell's bed. I'm telling you, they'll shit in Jalen Brown's bed. You comparing 70 years to now. 13 championships to one. This is all I'm saying. Like, Bill Russell was that nigga. And they ain't give a fuck about that. They racist. Yeah, nah, I feel you. Even when we was out to eat, wasn't the Raider being rude? I was looking around. I was like, what the fuck? I was rude then. So you know, like she was hitting me. I was like, damn, bro, this bitch is rude. City closed down. I remember we was looking outside at 12. Right when it hit 1159, 12, all the lights start going on Sundowntown, boy.

SPEAKER_00

Get your ass inside. Nigga, boy. We wasn't.

SPEAKER_05

That's what we did. Got your ass inside.

SPEAKER_06

Come on, man. Come on, man. And then guess from there, we hated Boston every since. Never went back. Every since. Never went back, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Couldn't wait to get the fuck up out of there. Yeah, Boston got to be one of the most racist cities in America.

SPEAKER_06

It's more racist than you think. I'm telling you that. You feel it.

SPEAKER_07

That's like a known thing up there, though. I think there's pockets where like black people live. Oh, absolutely. Once you get upside of them pockets, it's over. They out there too. The Verdians. They out there. You talking to. They out there. Mean. He talking to, yeah, he was like we talking decades ago.

SPEAKER_06

Like what we talking like. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07

Graditelli when you fucking 18. You know nothing, Jon Snow. That's all I'm gonna say. That's all I'm gonna say, bro. Oh. Alright, next, next, next, next, next. We 34.

Streamer University And Kai’s Power

SPEAKER_07

I did, I was talking to my LB about streaming university this week. I did see the average age of the streamer increase this year. Yeah, there was a couple older people in there. Yes, yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_05

What's up with this nigga taking all these niggas? Niggas already know. Like, I understand you doing it to for, but nigga, you got the views already. Niggas gonna tap in as soon as you hit as soon as he turned on the camera, niggas is tapping.

SPEAKER_06

Who got the views?

SPEAKER_07

Kai. So what's your point then? He's Chris, are you saying like he brought a lot of people that's already? Already big, big, popular.

SPEAKER_05

People like that. Bring some of the bring some I know niggas on to get some exposure to fucking.

SPEAKER_07

You think that, but if I bring that list of names out. Oh, I'm getting them ads and all that. No, no, no. Forget all of that. I'm saying, if you sh go on the list of names and I literally tell you all of the people, you only gonna know four or five people. Outside, like that students, not professors, not janitors, not all them other roles. The students, you only gonna know like four or five of them. Gotcha. And before last year, you wouldn't have known any of them. You gotta think. Last year when streamer university started, Rakai wasn't even as big as he is now. Rakai got super big because of how he interacted with Streamer University. Yes, he was the one that was getting it popping, because you gotta think.

SPEAKER_01

All right, well, this might be true, but we could at least say he was already on the on the up.

SPEAKER_07

Only because he was with Kai. But it's not.

SPEAKER_05

But that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06

Kai has the ability to But all of them was with Kai.

SPEAKER_00

But they but they still doing their own little content thing behind it. Cause like even when they didn't get in, he still had a Rakai and uh what's the boy's name? Tyleo. They went to the crib, they was at the crib.

SPEAKER_05

You think they're not gonna be at Streamer University?

SPEAKER_07

No, they're gonna be there. No, they're not. I think they're gonna be there. No, they're not. They're gonna crash it. Yes, they're gonna crash it, but that's why he made police.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and but that's the whole place. I'm not gonna put them in there because I'm they my boy, they're gonna show up in some capacity.

SPEAKER_07

Well, y'all, y'all could be right about all of that. I'm I'm just making the point of a lot of people who you think are big now are big because of Streamer University last year, and last year they weren't nobody. Most of the people who were on Streamer University last year, 90% of the people fell off. I was about to say, I think some of these people who who we think are big anyway, because they're older or whatever, I think they lost a lot of their viewership anyway.

SPEAKER_00

So they trying to renew.

SPEAKER_05

I don't think they're big from streaming. I just think they they like a couple of people are known just from uh other shit.

SPEAKER_01

Like what? Uh like he got the girl Queen Naj on there. She's known for singing. Uh the girl ski, uh Sky Jackson actress.

SPEAKER_07

Nah, I'm telling you, you're calling them that, but they are streamers. They they had they had like they stopped doing all of that and they've been grinding, putting in hours. That's true. Okay, because he can look on Twitch.

SPEAKER_01

You could probably you're probably right about that because I ain't heard nothing from from the girls.

SPEAKER_07

Like since streamer university, bro, some of these people have been putting in non. They didn't know there was gonna be a streamer university, too. But some of these people have seen how much money people made from starting stream, from starting streaming last year from streamer university. That niggas grinded all year. Ben the Don never streamed before Streamer University. You know that? He never streamed? Never streamed before Streamer University, he's only been streaming maybe a year now. So what he was just popping up all the niggas shit? He was just himself. He came to Streamer University, he just came to Streamer University because he cooled with niggas or whatever. Gotcha. And then he started streaming after that. India Love wasn't always streaming. You think they always streaming because you've seen them on people's streams. Gotcha. But this shit is a lot smaller than what you think, and Chris. That's what I'm saying. Like, we see it in our phones. A lot of these people, bro, that we think is big only got like two, three hundred viewers. And then Kai you come into their room, and that shit will go from two to three hundred to ten to twenty thousand. Mm-hmm. Instantly. Instantly.

SPEAKER_05

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_07

And that's how you keep them as that's all.

SPEAKER_05

But that and that's that's that's the point I have. Like, you you have Kai's big enough to where he could put anybody on.

SPEAKER_07

Mm-mm. I'm telling you, no. Because there's already people who haven't worked. You looking at niggas like who? Like Ponga. The nigga Des, his man who always cursing and walling. Yeah, they get a little bit of money, but they not like niggas people watch, like streamers like him, Rakai, Talil. Niggas don't even watch um uh Kasiness little brother like that. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

I ain't even. I guess I got I guess uh on another, on a on the the only other part of that uh I would say is what's their level of dedication to that shit because they probably just looking at it like it's supposed to happen for them because of Kai being that.

SPEAKER_05

But if you put in people in people who's working, who's actually putting in the work, if you putting them in position, I think you'll have uh because Kai just became Kai last year.

SPEAKER_07

You keep saying last year. I'm telling you this. It seems like it's been going on longer than what it does, but you gotta think. We've only had three mafia thons, and the third one, LeBron James, came on. Yeah, but Kai has been Kai since AMP was in Atlanta, bro. No, he was not, bro. There was a time when AMP was in Atlanta. Kai wasn't even the biggest. He wasn't. No, he wasn't, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, he was, bro.

SPEAKER_07

When?

SPEAKER_00

He was the biggest by the time they was like doing the fireworks drawing and everything. He had the biggest stream going on at that time. I don't know. And they were shooting fireworks at each other. He was the biggest at that time.

SPEAKER_07

No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. There was still niggas like Aiden Ross, who was hands down the number one streamer. This is what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_00

Aiden Ross.

SPEAKER_07

I'm saying what I'm trying to tell James and you is that the level Kai is at now, he just got to that level last year. He's not even the biggest streamer right now.

SPEAKER_01

Huh? Yeah, I'm not even the biggest streamer right now. Who is? Uh Kai's not the biggest streamer right now.

SPEAKER_07

Speed?

SPEAKER_01

Hands down.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know if that's true no more. Speed is IRL though.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know if that's true no more. You think people think speed is the biggest streamer because the platform he streams on.

SPEAKER_07

How many viewers you think speed be having at one time?

SPEAKER_05

I I don't know. But I seen, I seen the niggas keep fucking with with Speed. Like every time he about to hit 100 million subscribers, niggas just start unsubscribing.

SPEAKER_07

He said niggas been doing that to him for six years now. Okay. I mean, I mean Speed, but I think Kai is Kai just started his YouTube shit. I don't know. But long story short, I don't I don't give a fuck about none of that. I'm trying to say, bro, Kai just got LeBron on his dream. Nigga does.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but Kai had Bronny on his dream for a little minute. But Bronny was rocking with Aiden and them too, though.

SPEAKER_06

Yes, years ago.

SPEAKER_00

Aiden was his homie.

SPEAKER_07

Aiden and Cuffham and all the rest of them. Like even when Kai got, even it was a time when Kai had Krishan and Blueface as a guest, and he was not that big yet. I'm remembering the biggest. These were the moments that were making him big. And then Nicki Minaj comes, and then other like his friends come. No, no, no. By then he was big, bro. By then he was big already. Bro, because that was the point. You think tomorrow he's getting on stage and dancing in front of Nicki Minaj. No. But by then, quote, that was the point. Getting real paper now. That was the point where when artists were dropping something, they ran to the streamers. They ran to Kai Parker promotion. Okay, I'll give you that. I give you that. I give you that. And that means he's already he was bigger than radio stations at that point. I'm not going to I I'd rather go talk to Kai than go to the Breakfast Club. That's how that's how that was coming off at that time. Yeah, but it's not like these people were music was getting promoted. All that was doing was promoting Kai and not promoting these other people. That's a fact.

SPEAKER_00

I think I think the I think I think they name it for it.

SPEAKER_07

I think, yeah, I'm about to say I think that relationship was more one hand washing the other. That's what I'm trying to say. That's the point I'm trying to make. One hand washing the other versus now. There's nobody to wash that other hand. He's at a new level. He's only been at that level for a year. Even when he called Rakai on, like, yo, Rakai, come fuck with me. Da da da da da da. Nigga, Kai had Kai had time to chill around Rakai. He don't even have time to hang around those niggas no more.

SPEAKER_05

Too busy trying to learn how to read.

SPEAKER_07

And you know, before niggas was cool being around, I seen that his friend's energy change from like you my friend to yo, Kai not having that. Or him coming in the room telling niggas chill. Right. And then they fucking chill. Alright, look, we in 2026. Cosinette broke the platform's all-time subscription record during his mafia thing.

SPEAKER_00

His first mafia thought was in 2023.

SPEAKER_06

And then what he just kept bringing his own record?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but it'll be going back and forth. Because I think there was somebody else in here too that they named some other bull.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know his name. I can't remember. And he and he and he's on Twitch. Because Ninja had the record before that.

SPEAKER_06

That's a different beast. That's a different bull. That's a different bull. That's a different bull.

SPEAKER_07

Because that's when everybody was hype on Fortnite. So he was running the whole Fortnite scene. And then Kai came in. Kai really was one of the ones who really started the IRL streams, the regular streams. And then that's when like Aiden and Speed and the rest of these young bulls come out of nowhere and they just go berserk with it.

SPEAKER_06

They were first. That's what I'm trying to tell her.

SPEAKER_07

Aiden's first.

SPEAKER_06

And Speed.

SPEAKER_07

I get you, but Speed and Neon have been streaming since they were like 10. But I don't think they blew up as big before Kai did, though. Same time. I would say before. Speed and Neon, right? Yeah. I seen Neon cussing niggas out as a kid. Yeah. Andrew Tate. Neon and Aiden is in the same booth, though. Right, right, right. Aiden put on Neon, so that don't count.

SPEAKER_06

But let's let's get to basketball.

Summer League Plus Where Braun Lands

SPEAKER_06

Let's get to basketball real quick. Summer League.

SPEAKER_05

Nigga summer league start this week, right?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, the Utah one was already happening. Yeah, I don't. Chris don't respect the Utah or the California job.

SPEAKER_05

I turned that shit on the other day. Uh, cause last time I was here, you was like, oh, Darren Peterson. I turned that shit on the other day. That nigga sitting there not playing.

SPEAKER_07

I was like, man, how at me next week. No, that's the first game he didn't play.

SPEAKER_00

Holl at me. The second game we had a double double.

SPEAKER_07

Chris talking about the third game.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. When does Vegas start? Tomorrow. This week. Okay. Mm-hmm. That's when they gonna have my full attention.

SPEAKER_05

I will be watching every game.

SPEAKER_06

Alright, rookie of the year votes. Who you got.

SPEAKER_01

Can I get can I see everybody play one game?

SPEAKER_05

I mean, I know they already played a game, but.

SPEAKER_06

Alright, skip that.

SPEAKER_07

Where Braun going. I don't care about where you hope he go, where you think he can go. I don't want to hear Sixers unless you think he's going there, James. I really think he's going to Cleveland. But I hope he goes to the Sixers.

SPEAKER_01

Report came out yesterday. He's taking y'all a pitch very seriously.

SPEAKER_07

That means he's not getting them to me. But go ahead. Us Cleveland and I forgot Miami. Nasty work if he goes to Miami.

SPEAKER_00

Best chance to win is in Philly.

SPEAKER_07

Lies. Go ahead. He's not winning in Cleveland. Out of those three teams, best chance to win is in Philly. What y'all gonna beat him? Who? Be who? Cleveland. With Bron. Yes. With Braun and James Harden and Donovan Mitchell. That's exactly why we're gonna beat him. Name that second name you name.

SPEAKER_00

Huh? Who the second person you named? Donovan Mitchell. No, he ain't say Donovan Mitchell second.

SPEAKER_07

James Harden? Yep, exactly why we're gonna beat him. It's two second round shit going against each other. Somebody gonna have to go to the conference finals. I'm cool when he comes to Philly and want to drop two points.

SPEAKER_06

I think you're being disrespectful.

SPEAKER_07

I would only call it disrespect if it wasn't the history of this. I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01

It's Braun.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I hear you. Like fuck James. It's Braun.

SPEAKER_05

I hear you. James, we done over this a couple years ago, bro.

SPEAKER_07

We ain't never played. It's Braun. I got you. Now, now this is I'm asking. Braun's gonna need some help. Is Sixers gonna beat them if Joel's starting? If Joel started? Yeah. Alright. If he don't start, are y'all beating him? Well, Braun and him? Yeah. Like in the playoffs? Yeah. See what I'm saying? Fuck no.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_07

Shit, the Raptors might belt y'all. Get out of here. Raptors is washed. Yo, is he crazy?

SPEAKER_01

We're cooking though. We're cooking. You know they got Kawhi, right? I don't care about that.

SPEAKER_06

Alright, bro. Scotty goes. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Let's get on the brighter note. Before we end this, y'all got anything to say about the Eagles? Y'all want to talk about the Eagles?

SPEAKER_00

JB's still on our team though, though. Still, he just got there. Still on my team, though. So whether we got Brian or not, we still got JB.

SPEAKER_06

It's another 25 points that you replacing with a good 13.

SPEAKER_00

We took away 14 points for a nigga who's gonna get a dub.

SPEAKER_07

25. Don't say dub. I'm telling you, he's coming on that team and he's shooting most of the shots. I'm telling you that now.

SPEAKER_00

I'm cool with that. That's why I call it two years. Really?

SPEAKER_07

Whatever you want.

SPEAKER_00

Because VJ is gonna turn up a little bit more, too.

SPEAKER_07

You're not coming to the Sixers to play second fiddle again.

SPEAKER_00

Him and Maxie, 25, Joel can give me his little dub. VJ falling to 15, 14.

SPEAKER_06

Now James talking about 125 points a game. Like, fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_05

So where do you think Braun going?

SPEAKER_06

I think Braun's going to Cleveland. That's why James Harden's waiting to restructure his contract so he can finally get a ring. They're not gonna win.

SPEAKER_07

They will be super capable, Brown. Their starting lineup was good already to do some damage this year. They just choked. I can't niggas can't tell me they wasn't a better team than the Knicks.

SPEAKER_05

Especially at having a 22-point lead in the having a 22-point lead in game one is it's hard to say.

SPEAKER_07

Shout out to the fucking Knicks, though. Them leads don't mean nothing to them. Obviously. Like, I'm like, No lead. Like, what does that mean? No lead with someone. It'll beat your head in by 40 if you're not up by enough. All right, bro. Oh, go ahead. No, no, no. I was thinking, um. But if Braun come to Philly, how many games are you going to?

SPEAKER_00

I already started buying six and shit again.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know how many games I'm going to do. 10.

SPEAKER_01

You're going to go to 10 games at least.

SPEAKER_00

At least. That's at least, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Because now you can go to the cheap ones. Yeah. And it won't matter. I'll go see like Charlotte. Ain't gonna be no cheap game. Yes, there will. Still gonna be. Whoever asked, Chris. Like Chris. Charlotte come to town. You think? Listen, let me tell you something about this. What they thought. But they don't tell you why it's not gonna be cheap. I'm gonna tell you why it is.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I'm about to get him. I won. I won. This is why I know it's probably gonna be cheap some days.

SPEAKER_07

It's because I'm telling you, wherever Braun goes, you're not gonna know if he's playing that night. I promise you that. You never gonna know what night he's playing. And that's the reason they ain't gonna care that they're gonna put the tickets up every day. I'm saying they're gonna announce it. Like they're gonna announce it at some point. Yeah, but the ticket, half them tickets are already gonna be sold. He's gonna go to games. Don't think he's going to just see Braun, though. That's what I'm trying to say. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So, like there will still be cheap tickets for him. Not me. Not me.

SPEAKER_05

You're not gonna go to no Sixers games to go see Braun.

SPEAKER_07

I'm saying I will go if he if I know he's gonna be on the bench and not playing.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, all right. Like if he's in the building. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_07

I'm only stepping foot in the building to see Braun. And I'm telling you, you can end up getting some cheap seats. That's all I'm saying. Because I could buy the ticket 20 minutes before the game shows. That's what I'm saying. Gotcha. That's all I'm saying. But all I need is an hour. I told Eli, I said, bro, if Braun comes to town, you're gonna be printing money. Yeah. That nigga put the sweat in the emoji.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that nigga's a walking economy.

SPEAKER_07

Off rip. I told James, somehow, somehow, he's gonna sell more bread.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Chris, do you believe that too? A thousand percent. Cool. All right, good. I know I ain't just making shit out.

SPEAKER_05

That nigga is going to stimulate the economy of Philadelphia overnight. Everything's like.

SPEAKER_07

Niggas won't have brawn parties.

SPEAKER_05

Everything is up.

SPEAKER_03

There's definitely gonna be a week of brawn parties.

SPEAKER_04

I actually want him to come to Philly now.

SPEAKER_07

I ain't gonna lie. It does nothing but benefit me. Yo, so I might make more money.

SPEAKER_01

Or you going back to work down there?

SPEAKER_07

Might not. What? Maybe not there. Yeah, you have to go back to bartending out there. No, I'm gonna go somewhere dumb fancy. No, I'm just talking about period. Back bartender back in Philly. I'm gonna look up restaurants, brawn light.

SPEAKER_03

And and hold on.

SPEAKER_05

Yo, you stupid. How wouldn't you? You would have to give Van Gogh a run. You already know the NBA niggas come through there.

SPEAKER_07

No, the NBA. James Down.

SPEAKER_03

It's the same spot.

SPEAKER_07

No.

SPEAKER_03

No, bro.

SPEAKER_07

It's the difference between knowing PJ Tucker gonna be there with some bad bitches. And then him only coming on Wednesday sips.

SPEAKER_00

He ain't coming on no sips.

SPEAKER_07

And that's PJ Tucker. Right. Like I done seen Danny Green down there, Eric Gordon, me leaving work. All I'm saying is let it be Braun. The whole block made money. Oh my god. If Braun walk if Braun walking Vango, they fight you. Yeah. Something's gonna happen now at that spot. You could die at Vango and Bango. Am I lying, LB Vango and Biblows?

SPEAKER_01

Huh? Where I used to work, you know how dangerous my job was? I ain't never been in there. People got shot already out there. I ain't never been in there.

SPEAKER_07

No, no, no, no. Where I work, like there's Vanga, and then there's Biblos. The bad gold digger bitches go. Bibblos. And all the trap niggas, all the niggas with money, and any type of money, not corporate money, street money. They all go in this spot, and the spot is this big. Yeah, it's not even big at all. So it's dangerous. It's only comfortable for about 30 people. I had a dike gonna tell me, stop playing with me before I do something to you. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05

Was that another time, too? Wasn't this just a recent joint one?

SPEAKER_07

We're not gonna say no names because our man's could be listening. We got a man's, his sister. She's is that what you was talking about?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. But I forgot it was this funny.

SPEAKER_07

We had one out or whatever. Like, and I don't really know her like that. Like, they grew up with her.

SPEAKER_04

Should this story wait for next week, Chris?

Philly Money Wave And Closing Tease

SPEAKER_04

Because I don't think niggas gonna listen this far.

SPEAKER_07

But um.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07

Long story short, I'll make it real stupid. I don't know nothing about it. Like, we in the line. She like, dang, this ass fat. All right, say the rest for next week, yeah. And you know what I said? I just want to tell her my next words to her. The only thing I asked next was, yo, I said her name. I say, yo, can you please chill? And I let her uh Well, we'll tell you the rest next week, yeah. That was good. Yo, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, hit the button.

SPEAKER_07

Ain't no more topics, it's over.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

All right, man.

SPEAKER_02

Um, like it's nothing, cause it's nothing, bitch.