Spiritual Girlies Also Spiral

Being spiritual doesn't mean you're immune to spiraling...it just means you might reach for tarot cards before texting your best friend. 

In this honest and heartfelt episode, Rachael and Krystyn get real about the moments when life feels overwhelming, emotions take over, and even the most grounded spiritual practices don't stop us from being beautifully human. They share personal stories, the tools that actually help them find their way back, and why healing isn't about never spiraling, it's about learning how to move through it with more grace, self-compassion, and a little bit of magic.

If you've ever wondered, "Shouldn't I be more evolved than this?" this episode is your reminder that spiritual girlies spiral too... and that's perfectly okay.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:22

I have something else for us to try.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

What the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_00 0:33

This looks like a turd.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

Get out of here. Okay, tell me these don't look like turds. What?

SPEAKER_03 0:41

Spiritual girly's also spiral, guys.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

I almost just bit into this thinking it was chocolate. So I'll put this up here. So you crack it like this.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

And there's a pot inside. It's like nature's candy. There is a little pit inside. You have to try it.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

Well, you know I I will.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

We'll pass a little cover.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

What is it?

SPEAKER_03 1:12

I'm gonna, you all have to try it. It is sweet and sour. And then you have to try and guess what it is. Whoa, I mean sour patch turns.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Multiple pits. I was gonna say, this is a long What is this?

SPEAKER_00 1:34

I mean, it reminds me of a date. I know this flavor. I know you know this flavor. You've just never seen it and cooked with it. But you've eaten it. Oh, it's such a weird experience when you were like, no, I know this. I know this flavor. It's very hard. Is this a fig?

SPEAKER_03 2:05

It is not a fig. It's not like that.

SPEAKER_02 2:09

They kind of remind me of like a fig. It's not a fig, but like fig Newton.

unknown 2:14

Don't eat that.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

No! I know, but they're tiny. Suck around it. You gotta suck around it. Suck it, Rachel! God bless.

SPEAKER_03 2:28

No one saw this one coming today.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

Can you plant these? I mean they're a seed. Don't answer that. I know you can fucking plant them, but um well, it's driving me nuts that I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

That family.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

I surprised my family like this, but I didn't even let them see it. I made them taste it blind at first.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

I mean, they definitely look like just straight fucking turds. So it's probably better to not let people down. This is fun too.

SPEAKER_03 3:07

Please slow that down for socials. I want to see your face as it comes.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

It makes fun like this show.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

Yes. It's tamarind.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Tamarin. I definitely would never that would never have come to me. Where did you get them?

SPEAKER_03 3:28

Whole foods.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

They sell them? Yeah. I mean, clearly you just told me you bought them.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

No, I just stole them. But like, is it like a seasonal thing? I don't know if it's seasonal or not, but I bought a box of them. Tamarin. Playing this fun game with anybody that's in my orbit. Let's go. I know. It's like nature's candy. Well, we're back for another episode, guys. You're not rid of us. Well, they don't know that. No, but I'm saying in general, we're back for another episode. The universe is not rid of us. Oh. We're still existing.

SPEAKER_02 4:02

Yes. Still doing this podcast. Thank. Hey girl. Hey. Today uh we're talking about how spiritual girls or guys can still spiral. We're still humans.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

Spiritual people.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

Yeah. Yeah. Just when you have an awakening and you've done lots of healing, you can still break. It's like a thing.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

What would you consider like a full spiral? Like what level is a spiral?

SPEAKER_02 4:31

I have like many spirals right throughout the day. Like when I have to argue with my daughter about Dijon mustard. What Dijon mustard did you use? Dijon mustard. No, what kind? Dijon mustard. Mom. I know, but what kind of Dijon mustard? I don't know how else to explain this to you, but I use this Dijon mustard. Those are little spirals. But then big spirals? Usually, okay, so this isn't this is an interesting take on my life. I've had enough life experiences at this point when like major life events happen, I no longer spiral. Good, bad, indifferent. I remember in my early 20s, and this is actually we trauma bonded. There was a girl that we worked with at the restaurant, and there was a bunch of us. We were in our early 20s, influential period of time working in this restaurant. Most of us were still going to college, doing the thing. And one of the girls had a manic episode and took a bunch of medication and said this was it. And we had to call medical professionals, but she didn't take medication that was actually gonna do the job, kind of thing. So it was more of like a call for attention. And she got 302'd. And after that experience, we went to a bar in the south side and basically trauma bonded over this experience that had happened. And that was interesting to look back and know that that existed and that we all spiraled that day and allowed ourselves to spiral because emotionally, spiritual, physically, like we were all like whacked out about the experience and everything. And now where I am today, I've already had similar experiences where I don't spiral. I just stay focused in the moment and I have like healthy ways of like coping and dealing with it, which is a lot of what we're gonna talk about today is how do you have those life experiences where maybe you have that lived experience where trauma's involved and you use alcohol or drugs or some sort of unhealthy coping mechanism to like get through it? And then also, how do you blend that and grow from that and recognize that that existed for a reason and that there was beautiful things that came out of that too? And how do you deal with spirals now, wherever you are in this stage of life? Right. So I feel like I really didn't answer that question, but I mean you did in a way, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

Yeah, should we welcome everybody and then we'll like yeah, we'll get into it. Welcome.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Woo wee.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Woo! All right, let's let's welcome everybody. I think I'm okay. Welcome to two mystic mamas. You guys are getting second, second uh recording energy drink, Kristen.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Okay, so I feel like you asked about spiraling, and I feel like I just need to like give it back to you because I took us down a weird story tangent thing.

SPEAKER_03 7:54

Well, I don't think it's weird because I think there's so many different levels of spiraling, you know, like right now. Like we spiral in these episodes, especially the second one that we record in the day, and that's okay. Yeah, we spiral in a fun way. Yes, it doesn't always have to be like a negative thing. You can spiral off in all sorts of directions. Yes. However, if you feel like you are circling the drain of life, right? And you're just like on this roller coaster that you didn't want to be on, that can be really hard to deal with, especially when you're a spiritual person.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

Yes. And I think again, it's about that like reframing or that visualization. Because when I started researching about this episode, I immediately went to spiraling out of control, right? Spiraling it down a negative path. And then I reframed it because I asked, how does nature, because nature's always providing us really great examples and showcasing how we could live our life, right? There's a lot of just play out there that you can see. And so I was like, where does natural God?

SPEAKER_03 9:05

That's her when she's out foraging in the woods, natural. You know, I just thought about something. You were talking about spreading seeds, and I think that we should call the original plant that gave us all this volunteers, Nick Cannon, because we have about eight babies out there, tomato plants, and beaches out there, spreading a seed.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

I told one of the movers actually to stop spreading his seed. Because he was like, he was like, How old do you think I am? And I he told me, he's like, How many kids do you think I got? And I was like, Oh god, that's a weird thing to ask. Well, and I and he was 25, and I was like, two, and he was like, five. I was like, you need to stop spreading your seed. I was like, kids are fucking expensive. I was like, I have three.

SPEAKER_03 9:52

Like, I got five volunteers.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

And then I was like, Are they to the same woman? And he just went like this. I was like, okay, fine. I mean, you do you. You do you, boo. You do you. Also, maybe stop spreading your seed.

SPEAKER_03 10:07

That's a different kind of spiral.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

That's a different kind of spiral. That spiral might continue to bringing you back to having some hard life lessons.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

Well, if you continue to repeat the same thing over and over and over again, even if it's with different different partners, you're gonna have the same result. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

Well, and that's the that's the thing. So in nature, where can you think of where spirals exist?

SPEAKER_03 10:31

Oh, I mean, obviously tornadoes. Rachel's favorite, let's hark back to the polar vortex.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

Spiral of if you missed that episode, I thought there was a polar vortex in Sedona, which is a desert. Went real hard on that.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

Y'all. There have been a couple of times I almost walked out and quit spiral, if you will. So hurricanes have the spiral effect. Correct.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Also, in plants, so ferns grow in spirals and then they unfurl, as do other leaf. So does uh our monstera. Yep. And have you seen the new canna lily?

SPEAKER_03 11:11

I saw it, the yellow one. It does the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Yes. Now, in those examples, you can also look at our DNA. Our DNAs, our our DNAs. Our DNAs. Our DNA. But the point being with all of the, if you think about a spiral, right? And how it starts small and then it grows and then it grows and then it grows, it never is the same shape as when it began. When it begun back in the day when we began. This is gonna be a hard episode.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

Words, words are just not flowing. Um, I think this is the perfect episode because listen, if we spiral and we don't get our shit straight, that is a perfect representation of what happens to spiritual girlies all the time. Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Yeah, it is okay. And I think when you're recognizing it, because I know I am highly attuned. When I start to spiral now, I will stop, drop, and roll. I will stop and I will recognize what's happening and I will do different things depending if I want the spiral to continue, because sometimes spirals can be fun. Right. It's like a day of adventure, right? Like I had a boozy brunch on Friday, it was the last day of school, and we just kind of ran with the day, right? We had some stuff planned, but not everything mapped out. And some kids were going over here, some kids were going over there. We had water balloons, then we had a soccer game. Like we just let the day kind of spiral and however it was gonna go, right? And that was really fun, but the energy was fun, it wasn't like a like a heavy energy.

SPEAKER_03 12:52

Well, the spiral can also, you can whip other people into it, into a frenzy, right? And that's if you are in a place of drama and trauma and you're just fucking sucking people into your orbit. But also, last day of school, we have some from friends that moved into our neighborhood, which is wonderful. And we decided to join forces and ambush our children with water balloons and hoses when they got off the bus. And we're hiding behind bushes at the bus stop. We've got coolers full of water balloons. I mean, we're like ready to go. Charles is like a sniper in the trees. And the neighbors that were coming up to pick up their kids were like, Oh my god, can we get can we get in in this? Can we get like, yeah, absolutely. So neighbors are getting in their car with water balloons and like waiting for their kids to get off the bus. It was so great. The best kind of spiral. Yes. They had no clue it was coming.

SPEAKER_02 13:45

No, and they love it.

SPEAKER_03 13:46

Yeah, one of our neighbors was hiding in the the bed of another neighbor's truck and then just like popped out.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

It's so good.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

That's so good. Did any of it get caught on video? Oh, I have lots of video, but you can't see anything because I'm also running for my life. I'm like, because I'm I'm throwing water balloons and running, and you know you didn't want to be a part of the Blair Woods project. Not the best filmmaking ever.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

No. For being as shitty as it was, it made a lot of money.

unknown 14:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

Filmed right here in PA. That's right. Okay. If you were to create a spiritual guide kit for say you have say you spiral and it's not um it's a negative spiral. It's an it, yeah, it's it has a negative connotation or something, something throws you off your game. What are some of the things that you would put in a spiritual kit that would bring you back to center?

SPEAKER_03 14:43

So the very first tip I'm gonna give is planning for success. So we have in our family established that if somebody starts to spiral, we have a word that we can say or a phrase that we can say that is not triggering, the energy is a little bit off. Go reset yourself and come back. And so that's the very first thing I would say that I would put in your toolkit is to plan for success, not plan for failure, right? And that's that's a big one. The next one is having a space where you can go be alone for five minutes and breathe. So again, a lot of this is planning ahead to be like, even if I don't need these tools, I are I have access to them. And I think that that helps alleviate spirals too before they ever happen.

SPEAKER_02 15:32

The kids and I, we I'm gonna go take space. I'm gonna, or maybe you should go take some space, that kind of thing. So it's yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 15:39

Palo Santo, that scent for me and just the feel of it is a big one. Yes. It's very, very calming.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

More so than sage for me.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

Right. I love sage, but I really use sage for more of like a very deep cleansing. Anytime I've used it, it's been for like, and I used to use it a lot, but I use it to clear very big energy, especially out of like physical spaces. More so than just using like Palo Santo in my like immediate space. Sure. A crystal that you feel aligned with. Doesn't matter what it is. Yep. It just has to feel good to you. Something that you can hold on to.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 16:16

Let's see. What else would I put in my toolkit?

SPEAKER_02 16:18

These are all really good.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

I don't know. I'll get back to I'll get back to you. I feel like I have more in the hopper. They're just not coming to me yet.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

A playlist or something musical that you could put on, like a sound. Yeah. Hydration, so water or a tea, or something that isn't going to have the No watermelon wave, guys.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

No energy drink, no alcohol, something that's really gonna nourish yourselves and bring you back to center. A journal, oracle cards, you know, if you're drawn to that.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

And I tend to not do cardpools when I'm spiraling.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

I do, I don't, I would agree with that. I don't either.

SPEAKER_03 16:59

That's not the energy that I'm trying to bring into my deck, and it's also not a realistic take of what's going on in my life if I'm in that spot. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Though meditation, connecting with your team of light can be very beneficial.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

That's very beneficial.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

You know, I think sometimes I just had, I don't think I shared this with you, but dancing is a big one. Oh, okay. Yeah, dancing's great. Any kind of movement really to right.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

Walking, dancing, punching, screaming into a pillow, depending. If you have go to one of those rage rooms.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

Oh, I've never done I, you know, I say that I wouldn't like it, but I think I'd love it. Like breaking stuff, like slamming stuff. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:41

What were you gonna say? I cut you off.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

I have this down as an idea for a future podcast, but I had a really good good friend growing up. We shared our name, Rachel Ann, spelled the same way, went to preschool together. Last year I found out that she had been diagnosed with uh stage four colon cancer, and she did end up succumbing to it like a week ago. And I think for me, I found myself again, in in years past, when people have died and grief is upon us, I think it can be very triggering to spiral. I think that's probably one of the biggest triggers out there for folks is losing somebody. And I found myself using a lot of these tools and staying grounded. And I mean, I was I was sad, I was, you know, I cried. I think allowing yourself too, when you're in a spiral, to just feel whatever you need to feel, but in a safe way is critical. So if it looks like crying, if it looks like screaming or any of that, but I think I'd love to do, she's gonna have a celebration of life party in September. And I'm gonna talk to her husband and see what his thoughts are. But I would love to do and have like a tribute episode to Rachel where hope maybe at that particular celebration of life I can capture some stories from folks and we can put together like a tribute episode that also deals with grief and how you process grief and some things that go into it, because I found myself just being hyper-aware, not allowing the spiral in it to be so negative and really embracing the memories and laughing about them, and also like really trying to connect with her on the other side because I was really curious about what that would feel like because she's the first person I've lost since my father-in-law passed that I wanted to really connect with on a spirit level. And yeah, she came last night into my dream and we were able to embrace, and it was it was really magical. Like it was really, really great. And I was really grateful for that.

SPEAKER_03 19:58

That's awesome. Well, I'm glad that you're allowing yourself that space because I think that is one of the things that when people start to spiral, they don't allow themselves to even acknowledge what they're feeling, right? Let alone actually feel it. And that causes them to spiral in a different direction that can look like anger to the people that are closest to them, right? And you see that a lot, especially in grief, is people get mad. Have you heard of death duels? I have. I follow this woman on Instagram. I've followed her for a few years now, and she I think I actually told you about her. She is incredible. Going with Grace is the name of the Instagram account. And really incredible. I wish that I possess I feel like I could do it, but I don't think I have the capacity in my life at this moment to be that person. Right. I think that it's really incredible though. Yes, that it exists.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

I do too. And I think it's necessary and needed in this day and age, especially as we continue to like awaken as a collective to embrace death in a way that doesn't feel so definitive, like a hard end. It's just a stop and there is a continuation.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

Well, I think it's so interesting because we get so upset about everything. When I say we, I mean the collective, right? We have a tendency to get so upset about everything that's happening in our lives. What somebody did, what somebody didn't do, what's how somebody acted, how somebody didn't act, what they said, what they didn't say, all of it. And at the end, it feels like frustrating to look at how much time and energy goes into those kind of feelings and those kind of spirals when it's just part of the human design. It's a part of the human experience. But that's not your soul. No. Right? Like we don't ever look at each other from a perspective, or very rarely do we look at other people on a soul level. Like, just like I did about Harry Potter, right? Like I'm looking at her, I'm like, what an asshole. Like JK Rally. Right. What an asshole. Yeah. For her to make these comments and go so hard in the direction of hate. And like, you know, I'm looking at it from the very human existence, but then if like I'm looking at her soul, I'm like, what fucking journey is she on?

SPEAKER_02 22:32

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

But these are just the human, this is just the way it's coming out in her human experience. Totally. And not justifying it at all. No. It's fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

It's like, what is she trying to accomplish? Right. But we do it all the time, right? You pass somebody who's like driving like an asshole. You like get irritated, whatever. It happens all the time. We're constantly pointing a finger or judging or getting upset. I'm like, man, they're just also living their own human experience and trying to figure their own shit out. Right. They're spiraling in their own way. Yeah. And a lot of those people don't have any tools.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

No.

SPEAKER_03 23:04

At all. Because they've never even heard of the concept of having tools. Right. So I get caught in that conundrum of like having a lot of space and care for everyone. And also being like, don't be an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Mm-hmm. Well, and some days are better than others. Because, you know, like if we're in a place too, I know I usually am the same way where we never know what's going on. We're not entirely sure. We should have some grace. And then other times I'm like, fuck you, bud. Right. That's that's like I yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

I try to my l live my life in the space. It's like, okay, it doesn't do me any good to get upset.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

No.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

So like I'm just gonna have grace and move move forward and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Well, so on the the concept of visualizing the spiral too. And if you start out small and then it grows and then it grows and gets wider, right? Right. And I think we've talked about this on many a many a podcast episodes, and I'm gonna bring it up again is as spiritually awakened as we are, there are still repeat lessons that we keep getting. And it's like WTF, like I've already I've already healed through this. Like, why is it coming back? And the one thing that when I was doing the the research into this, and I was like, it was the first time that I could be able to visualize that when you get farther out into the spiral and a repeat lesson comes back, it shows you perspective though. Right. And I was like mind blown.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

What right? Well, and it also is an opportunity to have a different action for the same sequence of circumstances or similar sequence of circumstances, and giving you an opportunity to have a different action behind it. You may have healed emotionally or spiritually from whatever it is, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you're making different choices. So it's an opportunity.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:57

I think every spiral is an opportunity to learn something about yourself, the good, the bad, and not.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Yeah, for sure. For sure. So I have like an easy exercise that listeners can do. There are four steps into this exercise. So this is if you find yourself in a spiral and you also are able to recognize A, that you're in the spiral, and B, you don't want it to continue. You want to stop the spiral and you want to reset, kind of push the pause button and then push the reset button. Okay. Right. So again, we talked about not all spirals are bad. Some are fun, some are adventure, some are excitement. And then others are, oh no, this doesn't feel good. And I know I'm in control of my choices. How can I stop this and make a better choice right now? So step one is name the spiral. Like Eunice, like give it a name or call it Eunice the groundhog. Like, or like call it out. Well, name the spiral is in like I'm afraid to fail. Okay, got it. Like you're recognizing it's a valid question. Why am I spiral? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

Well, sometimes we name our like alter ego or whatever, and so that you can talk to them and be like, bitch, get it together. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

She rage, Rachel. All right. So you name, you name the spiral. Next, you name the feeling because there can be a spectrum of feelings that come up. So the example is I'm afraid to fail.

SPEAKER_03 26:25

The feeling is I'm scared. And I would go a step deeper if look up on your Google machines, guys. The circle, the wheel of emotions. And it'll give you broad brushed terms, but then like expand out from there with a whole host of emotions. Because sometimes very helpful.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Yes. And I would say sometimes it's really hard to pinpoint emotions if you haven't done that exercise. I find sometimes with children too, it's like they need help in identifying how they're feeling. Because we only talk about like happy, sad, upset, joy. It's like you can get even deep more detailed into that, right? So identifying emotions, helping yourself even further.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

Right. Because maybe the maybe you feel fear, but maybe it's because you feel unimportant.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Right.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

Which is a subset, right? So it's like it can break it down even farther. Um, so step three is name the need. So step one is name the spiral. Step two is name the feeling. Step three is name the need. I need reassurance. And step four is offer compassion. You could say, of course I feel this way. It's validating the spiral. It's validating it's okay to be in the spiral. It's okay to feel the way you want to feel in the moment. And then also, what do you need in that moment? Maybe it's compassion, maybe it's love, maybe it's food, maybe you're just really fucking hungry. So recognize that food actually plays a huge role in all of this. So offer compassion to yourself. Offer love to yourself, offer grace to yourself.

SPEAKER_03 28:07

I think that these steps are really, really important and also important for how you're interacting. If you have a loved one, a partner that's spiraling instead of engaging in a fight with them, maybe go through these steps and name, okay, well, what's at the root cause? What do I think they're actually feeling here? Yep. And what do they need? Do they need me to call out the fact that they're being an asshole, or do they need me to just accept them as they are in this moment and then come back to them later and be like, listen, I'd really like it if we could do things a little bit differently and state what your needs are than at that moment.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

I think that anyone listening who has people in their inner circle, these are conversations. Hey, you know each other better than anyone else in the world. Also true with our children, where these are great examples of how to help them navigate these situations that come up too. Because a lot of times kids have no impulse control, right? They just say whatever or do whatever, and then they can't recognize the spiral. I know this is happening quite a bit with our teenager because her hormones are all over the place and she can have these like big, big feelings, and it's like raw. And also that validation that goes along with it, because then she'll say things like, I don't know why I feel this way. I just feel and it's like it's your body, which is fucked because that's a that's a hard place to be when your body's fucked. Yeah. But you know, when your body's out of control and you you recognize it, but you're in it. Right. Like physically in the body. I mean, her and I at different times feel these same things. I mean, I have said like I feel like an alien physically in my body, but also emotionally. Right. Like, especially with the kids, I can be so triggered sometimes. And then I'm like, okay, just sit with myself. Why am I so triggered? Also, it's not always of me. Like I can be spiritually aware and then also know that physically my hormones are fucked. And I'm like, maybe I should take a nap. Naps are usually my go-to tool. Just rest. Bring it all down. You don't need to contribute to it anymore. You don't need to give it any more energy. Yeah. Go into the metaphysical space and then come back. And I'm always usually a different person.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

I don't I don't outwardly spiral very often very often.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

I don't think I've ever experienced it.

SPEAKER_03 30:40

No. I learned at a young age how to internally spiral though and take all that on. So I have some very strong, strong, strong tools in that toolbox. And luckily, I have not been in a place of suppressing them. I've always been in a place of owning it and working through it and understanding it because I don't want to hold it. But also it's kind of a cool party trick that I'm like unfuckwithable. Protecting my peace at all times. Yes. And I can like feel it, I can release it and then not give somebody the immense pleasure of disturbing my peace either. You know what I mean? Because some people fucking get off on that. Oh. Like some people want to like poke, poke, poke, poke, poke to see what they can get from you. And I'm like, go on, poke. Yeah. On that note, anything else we want to share with the homies? I don't think so. I think I'm good. Okay. We're going to share a lot of these tools and tips and tricks on our socials as well as on our Patreon. So be sure to hop in there and we'll give you guys access to all of that so that you can you can go back and listen and take notes. I do that a lot. When I listen to especially spiritual-based podcasts, I'll go back and listen a second time and take notes. I'm like, oh, I want to do this. Yes. Or you can go check out our socials and we'll try to include as much of this as we can.

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For sure. Yeah. You can also find and buy tamarind at Whole Foods, which is a new experience. You can pass out little turds to all your friends and have it be a fun party trick.

SPEAKER_03 32:15

I took them to camp, passed them around the bonfire of drunk adults.

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They were like, did anyone break a tooth?

SPEAKER_03 32:25

No.

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They were all very excited. And followed directions.

SPEAKER_03 32:29

And followed directions. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Good on those guys.

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We love you guys. Thank you for being a part of our community. This is truly like a dream come true for us to be in this space with everybody. And just thankfully.

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Turning it into a hurricane.

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Hurricane Mystic Mamas. That's right. All right, we love you guys. Thanks for being here. Bye.