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The Science of Never Giving Up with Jan Raeder
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In this powerful episode of Flow with Floyd, Floyd sits down with Jan Raeder, wellbeing educator, keynote speaker, author, and “SelfCare Sensei,” for an inspiring conversation about resilience, purpose, and navigating life’s setbacks.
Jan shares insights from her book, Strive for M.O.R.E., built around four powerful principles: Meaning, Optimism, Relationships, and Engagement. Together, Floyd and Jan explore why setbacks are a natural part of life, how to learn from failure, when to push forward, and when it may be time to change direction.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Finding meaning and purpose when life knocks you down
- Turning setbacks and failures into opportunities for growth
- The power of optimism, relationships, and having the right support system
- Knowing when “never give up” means changing your strategy
- How to develop the skills and mindset needed to become more resilient
As Floyd says, FLOW means Find your purpose, Learn through the process, Overcome your setbacks, and Walk in your greatness.
If you're facing a setback right now, this conversation is a reminder that a closed door may simply be pointing you toward a different opportunity.
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Jan Raeder — SelfCare Sensei
Author of Strive for M.O.R.E.
Wellbeing Educator | Keynote Speaker | Resilience Advocate
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Greetings, kings and queens. Welcome back to another thought-provoking episode of Flow with Floyd. I'm your host, Floyd Miley. And I appreciate you for joining the flow today. Now, whether you're winding down from a long day or simply looking for that right spark to get your mindset right, you come to the right place. You see, here on the flow, we talk about personal growth, living life with intent and purpose, and most importantly, finding that rhythm in life that keeps you moving forward. You know, life is about finding your purpose, learning through the process, overcoming setbacks to walk into your greatness, and that's when you truly find your flow. So today we're talking about something that connects directly to overcoming setbacks in life. The science of never giving up. My guest today is someone who understands resilience from a scientific standpoint, psychological, and life experiences. So grab your favorite drink. Sit back, relax, chill, and let's follow the flow. Hey, welcome back, kings and queens. Today we're going to talk about the science of never giving up. In other words, how do we train ourselves to keep moving forward when life knocks us down? Our guest today is Jane Rader. She's a well-being educator. She's the author, but she's affectionately known as the self-care sensei, who combines positive psychology, well-being science with more than 30 years of martial arts, and over 10,000 rounds of sparring and karate, which is amazing in itself. Jan just knows what it means to be knocked down. She knows what it means to regain her center and how to keep moving forward. Jan, welcome to the flow.
SPEAKER_03It's an honor to be here. I'm so grateful that we're going to have this conversation today because a lot of people need to hear it.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, I definitely agree. You know, it's something that we all experience, and no matter what level you are, you could be at the top of the totem pole, you're at the bottom. You're still going to experience setbacks and failures, and you have to be able to overcome. Before we get into the conversation, if you will give us just one fun fact about yourself.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Um, one interesting thing about myself, um, well, um I don't consider myself that different from a lot of people. I'm part of the human experience just like everybody else. I've been knocked down, I've gotten up, I've, you know, had uh die received a medical diagnosis, I've suffered loss, um uh, you know, on and on and on. So I guess the only thing that I think is uh maybe a little bit different about what I try to encourage people to do is that you can make it through more than you think that you can. You're stronger than you think. And that's something, and I and I love that before we started, you mentioned the word failure. I think failure is good. So, and I think that that's something that you're right. People are always taught that failure is bad, and it is not, it's good. And then to add something to that, how we look at failure is really where the magic happens.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, most definitely. I totally agree with that. We've all failed. I failed so many times, it's just ridiculous. Um, but I found somehow I find this find a way to keep moving forward because I realized that that moment of failure, this setback, is something that you learn from it, and then you apply it to the next time. And I think when people get into a rut is when they don't learn from that mistake because they're looking at it from a negative standpoint. Okay, now if you look at this positive mistake, you you can draw things from it, because for then every mistakes are gems that you're supposed to take out of there and then apply to the next time it goes along. But again, it all starts with your complete mindset. Um, and that's that's where it starts at. Now, there's a question I was asking because um remember, you're you're you're a sense I and you do karate over 10,000 miles, which is which is amazing. Um, so that means you come from a sports background. I also have a sports background on the University of Tennessee where I play football. Uh, and I've always been sitting around sports. Do you think that people who are competitive in sports have a different mindset than from the average person, especially when it comes to setbacks and failures?
SPEAKER_03Actually, yes, I do. I I I do. And and I think the only reason um that I say that, and because anyone can adopt a mindset that a person um that's in athletics can, you know, has is we have an incredible, and you mentioned some you mentioned football. You had a a deep meaning behind why you participated in that. Um, I had a lot of meaning behind why I trained in martial arts. And I think that's one of the pieces that keeps people moving forward. Like, why is it that I'm what's the reason why I'm gonna get up after I get knocked down? Um, and I think some people that have not been involved in competitive activities, um, maybe they don't, maybe they don't really cling to the meaning part of things. Um, that's part of what I have as my framework. That's the first, that's the first uh act part of my framework, the M meaning. So I think I think you're right. I think that people that are involved in athletics um at a competitive level, they have that piece to fall back on. Why am I doing it?
SPEAKER_01Right. I was debating with myself the other day. I was like, are people born with resilience or is it something that's developed over time? And so I've decided that it's it's kind of a mixture of both. Okay, now if you think about when you were a little, when you're a little toddler, you just experiencing the world, you had no fear. You know, um, you would you would do whatever you just do things what toddlers do because you're exploring the world. You don't know what these boundaries are. But and the only time that we became afraid of anything was because people told us to be afraid of this or to avoid this. And so that kind of works in our mindset in our psyche that we try to avoid things that are going to cause us agony or pain without realizing that we, when we were children, again, you couldn't tell us no. How many times did you you remember used to get up and you will you will walk and then you would fall? And then you would get up and you would walk and you would just determined to walk. And I tell people the story. When I was like 12 years old, and I have older cousins who were in college sports or getting ready to go to college, and they was working out. And they had like 135, you know, you deadlifting 135 pounds. I wasn't able to do it. But I kept trying and trying and trying the whole week of that family reunion until I can finally get it. And I finally did it on the day they left. My cousins left. I was just amazing. And so, but that mindset was given to me, you know, from from it's okay to fail. But get back up, keep trying. My mother tells me all the time, nothing beats a failure, but a try. Only time you fail is actually when you quit. You know, so I do think that sports um is actually great for me because from what I can understand, that it's developing what you're doing as well as what I'm doing, because the background is sports. So the discipline it takes, you know, and there's a correlation between how the world works and do those things here. And I think that that's the strong point of what we're doing. Now, earlier you mentioned your book, Striving More. Okay. You could you give us a little bit more framework and how did you come up with that project from conception to reality?
SPEAKER_03Well, I I appreciate you mentioning my book, um, and also all of what you just said about um being some people being born with resilience, some not, and that it's a mixture of both. You're absolutely right that it that it is, because it's it's there obviously is a survival piece that everyone has. I, you know, everybody wants to live, if you will. I mean, obviously, there's certain circumstances that people commit, you know, get into where they're super depressed and they don't feel like living anymore, which that's not what we're talking about. Um, but environmental is uh a lot of why people get up when they get knocked back down, you know, when they get knocked down. It's what you said about when you're a toddler, how supportive are your parents? How supportive are the people around you? What have you been given as far as like why you do certain things? Um so I I I really that resonated with me, all of what you said about toddler to, you know, possibly going into sports. So just to bring that back to my uh framework, my more framework, I can't take complete credit for more framework. Um it actually is um an adaptation from Martin Seligman. He's the father of positive psychology. Um, he developed the framework PERMA, P-E-R-M-A. And um, I taught that at the uh college level. I had I ran a course about well-being theory, and it was based on Martin Seligman's theory. And I tended to get a little bit of a glazed look from people because it's hard to remember P-E-R-M-A. So um I was like, how can we adapt this? So I started thinking about the in the pillars, which is what those are. Um, and I thought, more meaning, optimism, relationships, and engagement. I left out the A because when I was talking to a lot of people, A is for accomplishment. And I was talking to a lot of people, especially business people, and they kind of glazed over when I said, you know, gee, what did you celebrate what you accomplished today? And they, you know, it didn't resonate. So the what so it kind of ties back to what we're talking about with the science of never giving up. Um, when you have meaning about what's happening to you, if you get knocked down, you can either choose to just lay there and stare at the ceiling or the sky and wonder what hit you, or you can go, okay, what's my reason for getting up? Why am I going to get up again? Or why was I participating in whatever it was that knocked me down? What was important to me about that activity, whatever it is. I mean, being knocked down can also be a metaphor for, I don't know, your job. Maybe, you know, you didn't get the promotion you wanted, um, or a relationship. You didn't, the person that you're with wasn't the right person. Maybe you didn't choose the right person. Um, on and on, we could go on. So, and then we've got the oh, the optimist, optimist part. That's a choice. That's a choice to look at the good in those situations. We understand it's happening, that things are bad, but we're gonna choose to, like you had mentioned, what can I learn from this? How can I grow from this? And then, of course, the relationship piece, who are the who's my support system around me? And then engaging, you know, continuing to do that activity, continuing to get fulfilled by what you are doing. So that's kind of what I talked about in my book. I started out teaching it in in a course at uh in a local university, and then the pandemic hit. So I thought, well, what can I do during the pandemic? So I wrote a book and I wrote it based on that course, but I added a lot more to the book. Um, and it is written for everyone. It's not written for a specific audience, it's written for everybody.
SPEAKER_01Uh, you know, uh, you said something. Um, you mentioned this, you wrote this book during COVID. And the first thing that popped into my mind was, you know, we talk about setbacks. You know, if if there was ever was a worldwide setback, it was COVID. And we're not going to talk about the politics of it and all this or whatever. We just we just talking about what it did to society. It took us into a world that we never even experienced or never even imagined or even thought about. But then we had to learn virtual, we had to learn how to get on Zoom, how to get on WebEx, and then hard start having these conversations to improve work, even though doing that setback. And my professor was telling me, actually, yeah, she told us um, when you're learning how to do something you never done, it's like building a plane and learning how to fly it at the same time. But it was something that we were able to, yeah. Now, I mean, that was that was just brilliant, um, what she said. And then if you look at where we are now, from that major setback, that should, that should encourage anybody, regardless of whatever it is that you're going through or whatever you're facing, that it is possible for you to see the other side. Because that's what we're able to do. And now we now we we are more advanced society than we were before. Because our elder elderly people learn how to get on the internet, learn how to have Zoom calls, learn how to work these iPhones and all this other stuff. So it kind of boosted up the whole just technology, if that makes sense to you. I just that's just one of those tangents I was telling you about.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I it it's when you're when you're talking about the when you're talking about the pandemic and this incredible watershed moment for everyone. Um, and I can I think I can pretty much say watershed moment for everyone on the planet. Um because so many places uh obviously were touched by this pandemic and of course in different ways. And I think, and I still don't think we've seen everything, all the all all the fallout, if you will, from from this incredible um I like to think of it as opportunity now to take a step back and say, where are things that we can we can adjust now how we interact? And I and I love that you brought up about trying new things, like getting on to technology for getting together with people, um, you know, making adaptations for uh not being able to be in the same room with somebody, and and how our technology has pushed us forward. Uh so it's, you know, the other thing that I would mention just briefly about the pandemic, uh, because I said this to a lot of people that I talked to, um, is every single person had has now and and they still have it, a degree of anxiety. Um prior to the pandemic, not everybody had that. But if you think about it, even the people that never had anxiety, they got a little bit of it because we weren't sure what was gonna happen. And so there was there was that scary part of the future. Um so with everybody being a little bit of having a little bit of anxiety, that changed how things were with the pandemic now, the way it is now. People that had anxiety before the pandemic, it could it could have been out of control for them. Um, and I just want to briefly say about the differentiation between depression and anxiety. Depression is tied usually to our past, and anxiety is tied to the future. However, the two are married because if you dwell on your past, that's your past is the way that you imagine the future. Because the future, we don't know what's going to happen. And it's only based on our imagination of what we imagine is going to happen. And our imagination is based on what happened to us in the past. So, and we're hardwired for negativity. So, right there, what I just said, you could probably take a little tangent on that in our conversation because because it it really is a major thing to think about in the human in as far as the human experience, humans tend to suffer the past and the future. And those are two states that actually don't exist anymore. Yeah. Because the past doesn't exist anymore, and the future's not here yet. What we have is what is right now. That's it. So we need to make ourselves the best we can so that we can deal with that past, imagine a good future, and keep our present as as uh good and as showing up as authentically as we can.
SPEAKER_01Um and and I'm so what do you think about that? I uh um I totally agree with it. You know, we do we do need to do a lot of things that we need to do as far as uh I'm an introvert, which is weird. Uh how can you be a podcast host, but you're an introvert. And I get anxiety from just even this conversation. Before we had this conversation, I just get anxiety. I don't know if you call it butterflies or whatever you call it, but I just get so into my okay, what's gonna go wrong? And I'm that's what I'm thinking. I want to make sure that everything is lined up the way it's supposed to be. You know, I got to get the questions right, I gotta do all this. I'm paying so much attention to things that could possibly go wrong, so I'm not I'm not focusing on what could go right, the benefits from it. Okay, and so when we look at when we look at opportunities, when we look at failure, you know, like we're like setbacks, like we said earlier, if you look at what a failure really is, it's a lesson, it's feedback. Okay, on, hey, this is not gonna work this way, you might need to tweak it this way. You know, and then you have to you have to be open-minded to do those things. And it does require sometimes you have to change who you are. You you talk about, uh, I remember a few years ago, you talk about depression and anxiety. I went through about depression. And so against everything I've been taught. And it and it and it was wrong from what I was taught. Not saying anything bad about anyone or society itself, but I decided to start seeking therapy. And the first question that people ask me was, what's wrong with you? I'm like, there's nothing wrong with me. I'm just trying to better understand my situation so I can be more effective. Because, like you said, issues from my past and it combines with our future anxiety, it can just cause us now. It affects now what's going on. And I had to work through those things, but the the largest thing was just getting over that stigma of taking care of myself. You know, self-care. Because a lot of people don't, a lot of people misinterpret to me as like self-care and like self-discipline. Okay, I'm looking at if if I have self-discipline, okay, I know what it takes to go from point A to point B throughout all obstacles, but I'm not taking time enough to do the self-care part. You know, we do we do that for our, we do that beauty days, you know, we we take care of ourselves so many times, but we don't take care of the most vital part of us, and that's our mental health. You know, as a self-care um advocate yourself, if someone is experiencing some type of crisis, no matter how small it is, right now, this what advice could you give them to help them just calm, calm that scene, calm that rage that's going on?
SPEAKER_03Well, I I I love that you're bringing up self-care. I mean, obviously, you can see that I think on your screen it says self-care sensei. So um, and when I talk about self-care, I I try to make sure that I'm clear that I'm not talking about um uh you know getting together with your friends on a Friday night for some drinks. Not that that's a bad thing, because you know, having connections with people is good. But or, you know, uh spa day or a bubble bath or you know, those things are wonderful, but they're not true self care. True self care, in my humble opinion, is knowing who you are. Like you mentioned, your past and and you know, having some self discipline about looking at those things, uh looking at your past and and figuring out. What's what are some of the things you want to keep? And what are the some of the things you want to jettison from your past? Um, I'm gonna throw in a little bit of brain science here that since we are hardwired, we're hardwired for negativity. We when we think about our past and the way that we record things in our brain, it's kind of like the best way to think about it is uh folders in a file cabinet, and there's tabs at the top of the folder that say roughly what's inside the folder. And in a lot of cases, you know, uh, I don't know, pick seven years old and you open up the folder and it's full of negative things because that's how we remember that we tend to grab on to the negative. So you could have completely remembered situations incorrectly. And then now you're seven years old. This happened to you, you created a story that was wrong, and now you're 47 years old, and you're wondering why when somebody speaks to you a certain way, you're exploding at that person. So what happens is we carry the story for our entire lives and it shapes us. And I'm sorry to break it to you, but sometimes it's wrong. Actually, uh a lot of times it can be wrong. So what's the what's the good thing about that is if you can develop some self-awareness and say, okay, when so and so says this to me, or these people do this, I get upset or my stomach flips over, or I want to, I don't know, uh, hit somebody across the face, whatever, whatever it is. And you, if you're self-aware and you go, why am I doing that? Well, if you can unpack it a little bit and look back into your past as to maybe there was a situation that you misinterpreted, or you remember remembered the wrong way, or you were angry with somebody that maybe was doing the best they could at that time. And you had when we're children, we have different expectations of the adults in our lives, and we forget that they were all children and doing and they're doing the best they can. So I think some of the things I would say um to people is for one, you're tougher than you think. You can handle more than you think. Um doing this personal work is so worth it. Um, I used to tell my students that um when they were trying to learn uh specific like forms and things like that, I would say, you know, work on this technique, do this technique 500 times. And when you do that, it's informing everything else in your in your karate training. So when you're working on pieces of yourself and and really getting into that, it's helping everything else in your life. So when you interact with other people, you're gonna be a better version of yourself interacting with those people. Now, am I sitting here saying when I say all this that I'm perfect? Absolutely not. I'm not. I'm not, I'm still working on myself. And I I and it's an ongoing battle. And if you have uh, you know, because we're hardwired for that negativity that I mentioned, so I'm constantly working on not allowing my brain to go over to that negativity. So when we talk about resilience and the and like you had mentioned earlier about people being born with resilience, I don't think people are are it's so much they're born with resilience. They learn skills that allow them to be more resilient. And they they use um resources to allow them to be more resilient. But you have to choose that. That's part of optimism. That's part of the O of my framework. It's a choice to decide to look at that that way and to use those resources. So I guess that's what I would say, you know, and we can get into forgiveness in the next segment that we're gonna talk about, um, because that's also another part of this. Yes, we did. Yes. Oh, good. I'm glad you got all the rest of it then. If you're willing to.
SPEAKER_01We got that, went to that last part. Yeah, that's fine, but I was asking you to repeat the question because I didn't quite catch it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. I said um about if you were willing to share some of the things that you had said about um because you were talking about self-care and about how you were looking into things from your past and you were trying to work on some of that. And I just didn't know if you were willing to share any of that um of what you're doing. Because I'm just I'm curious about that.
SPEAKER_01That's an interesting question. And now, are we talking about as far as the reason why I was seeking therapy or are we just talking in general?
SPEAKER_03No, no, just um, you know, when you have those moments of self-awareness when you kind of, you know, you're you're exhibiting behaviors in yourself where you just kind of go, why am I doing that? Why do I keep uh I know for me that I used to get really angry um, you know, when I was like in a retail outlet and the person wasn't, you know, I was asking for their help and then they would, you know, act aloof or something, and I would get really upset. And I don't know why I was getting upset with them. It was really me. You know, it wasn't so that's what I'm talking about, like that self-awareness moment where you kind of go, why am I doing that? Did you ever have one of those moments?
SPEAKER_01I I mean, which have, I still have them. And and honestly, it it's it's gotten a lot a lot better than it used to be. I'm a perfectionist, and me being a perfectionist, it has to do with what the way I was taught. You're gonna do the best you can do, everything has to be just lined up, and which is nothing wrong with that. But then I took it a step further and I wanted everything to be perfect. So me looking back, and I'm saying, okay, now why was I so upset about this situation? Like, say for instance, if like I was saying earlier, I had to have everything structured because I'm such a perfectionist, and I want to anticipate all these different things. But me being such a perfectionist, it hurt my productivity. And it also made me kind of afraid to step out there. Like, for instance, like I said, I still deal with this. Like now, I want to move from audio to video. Okay, but in my mind, I can't do it because I don't I don't particularly like the way I look on camera.
SPEAKER_03Gotcha.
SPEAKER_01It has to be perfect, and I'm like, if it's not gonna be perfect, I'm not gonna put it out there. Well, then, like I said, that's causing me a lot of unnecessary anxiety, and it causes to miss a lot of opportunities. That's that's probably the one of the the strongest holes that that you know our mind can have us.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01And but I'm learning how to you know I'm learning how to release it or to forgive myself and say, you know what, Floyd, the fact that you did it is good enough.
SPEAKER_03Gotcha. Yep, yep. And that definitely, if I that definitely I'm sure came for sure. I'm I'm a perfectionist also, so I I know exactly you're speaking my language, because uh and and I and it does hold you back um in certain circumstances because you think, okay, if this isn't perfect, it's it's not gonna, it's not gonna be worth doing. And and I and I think that you're absolutely right. I think that you know, have you have to work on forgiving yourself and you know, actually when we were talking about the pandemic and things that happened during the pandemic, especially with these kinds of situations, technical situations, you know, people had their cat walk across their screen. They had their baby crying in the background at a meeting, you know, that they were having. And I think what changed, which was kind of interesting, is people like the authenticity of that because they realized people have real lives. They they're they're not this, and I think we've learned this from social media that everybody's putting out the best face forward for social media. And you know, and you hear about these celebrities that um they have all these tru their troubles, you know. We hear about celebrities that have troubles, and so you say to yourself, even though these people have like a team of people that make them look great, they have all sorts of money, they still have the human problems that we have. So it's it's kind of that moment of where you go, we're all in it together, we're all experiencing this together. And what I had said about um that I wanted to mention about forgiveness, um, was forgiveness isn't for the other person. Forgiveness is for you. You know, when you forgive someone else, if you have the opportunity to obviously speak with them directly, that's great. But a lot of times we don't. You know, a lot of people that I've talked to, they are angry with their parents, and their parents are gone now, and you can't say something to them. So when you're forgiving them, you're forgiving it's forgiving for yourself so that you're not carrying that load. Um, which I think goes back to what we were talking about about getting knocked down and getting back up again. And what is the reason for things happening in your life? And what is it that I can do to push myself forward? Like you doing this podcast, you obviously started it for a reason to to something moved you to do it. And now you're dealing with all the things that you deal with, the technical stuff. How do I feel? Do I have a good guest? You know, all of those things. Um, and I think that's indicative of what we're talking about. Um, that we're all gonna get knocked down. You know, I've said this multiple times to people. It feels like over the last several weeks, um, every single person on this planet is going to come up against crossroads. Everybody. No one escapes it. It's the human experience. It all depends on how you look at it and how you choose to move forward with it. And and it's what I said before: you're learning tools that can help you move forward. And that's kind of what I think I hope draw drew you to talk today was about that, the tools.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh the actually uh I'm actually you brought that into the tools because that's that's a nice segue to my next question that I want to talk about. Because earlier you mentioned something about uh we have to push hard. We have to push harder through adversity, we have to push hard just to keep going. Now and then some people and some people need to understand this, okay? No matter how hard you push towards you because you're not learning from it. Okay, so how do we know when to push harder versus when it's time to change strategies?
SPEAKER_03Right. And I love that you brought that up because just never giving up isn't just continuing straightforward. When you have these tools, when you have tools available and resources available to you, that's when you go, okay, maybe I need to change direction. And that's also part of not giving up. You know, just because you let's take, let's take the example of um a job that you have, you know, or you're in this career field. And each time you go up, you try to get a promotion, you're never getting that promotion. And maybe it's time to shift. Maybe it's time to look into another type of work. Maybe this isn't speaking with you. Um I say a lot of times to people that, and I'm gonna, you know, I am a faithful person. I'm gonna say when God closes a door, he tends to open a window. So maybe that door is closed, but maybe outside that window is something else for you. Maybe you weren't supposed to have that promotion because that wasn't the best way that you were their best direction for your path forward. So sometimes I think the not giving up is taking that step back and going, okay, I keep making the same quilt mistake, and maybe the mistake isn't, you know, because we tend to go, oh, I didn't get the promotion. Well, that's not my mistake, you know. Maybe it's trying to tell you something. Maybe it's saying the window over there is open and the door is closed. And maybe you need to look out the window and take the leap out that window, because believe it or not, you'd probably fly when you go out that window. If you have enough support behind you, enough mentoring, enough tools behind you where you are do something scary, you you all of a sudden you're like, I'm flying, even though I jumped off the scary cliff or I jumped out the window. So I think as far as tools are concerned, it's some of the things that I offer in my book. Um they're all all the all the exercises that I offer in my book are free. They're not anything you have to go and you know, join a gym or you know, I'm not against talk therapy. If somebody needs therapy and they need talk therapy, I'm I'm think that's a wonderful thing, and I think you should pursue it. But there's also things that you can do for yourself. You know, one of the main things is meaning, the meaning piece. Find out what it is meaningful to you, because then that helps you make those decisions. Like if I'm gonna leap out that window and I'm gonna go into a career field that it doesn't speak to me, that's probably not the best place for you, you know, but you have to know what speaks to you first. You know what I'm saying? So and then and then when I say optimism, it's not uh Pollyanna. I'm dating myself when I say Pollyanna, Pollyanna. Some people don't know who Pollyanna is. Pollyanna is like everything is happy, and and that's not the case, and that's not optimism. Optimism is realizing that there are things that do that are bad. We have bad things that happen to us, but it's choosing how am I gonna use those things as tools moving forward? What am I gonna learn about myself? How is this gonna make me stronger? And then the relationship part of it. Who is my support system? Who is it that I can really trust? You know, part of the relationship piece is the relationship with you, and then the engagement part. How am I gonna engage in what I'm doing? What is it that's keeping me motivated and I'm learning these skills? Because if you're not challenged, you're not growing. So those are people that are out there that are listening, challenge is good, and failure is good if you examine it. So I think that's what I mean when I say about tools for people, that there's a lot of things out there that are available to you, especially provided by um well-being science. And that's what I try to do in my book. I try to break it down so that it I make it into digestible things for people to use on the average day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and and that's awesome. Um, like I said, there are there are a lot of tools available. We talk about meaning in life, and as you were talking about it, the first thing that popped into my mind again was, you know, the the sh the podcast is called Flow with Floyd. The F the flow actually is an acronym itself. First you have to find your purpose. Then you have to learn through the process. Then you have to overcome setbacks, and then you walk in your greatness. But if you don't ever take the F and find your purpose or your reason for doing it, you're never going to be able to walk into your greatness. And a lot of time I think what people we have, especially when it comes to careers, when it comes to relationships, when it comes to life, period, we have this ideal life of what we want. We have this ideal mate, we have this ideal job or ideal home that we need to live in, that we want to be a part of. But but maybe that's not what is the best thing for you. Because what I've under what I've learned that every time you talk about God uh closing one door than open a window. And when you think about it, you're like, but behind a door, I can get through. Window I gotta get smaller through. And every time you go through that, every time you recognize that door is closed, and you go through that window, it is always better than what was behind the door. So we have to be able to look at those things. You know, but but everything starts with a purpose. You know, we we can we can have many people cheering us on, talking to us what we need to be doing in life. We can have a support system. I do agree that a support system is very, very critical. Everything you talked about is very critical. But the first piece of that puzzle is to find your purpose in life, find your reason for doing whatever it is that you're doing. And then it will make it easier to overcome those obstacles, failures, and setbacks over and over again because now your your life has purpose. You know, just like you, you wake up every day. I mean, I'm gonna say you wake up in a cheer mood every day, some days, but you wake up knowing what your purpose is today, what you what you're out to do. And it makes everything else just seem like so. When you go, when you have a bad 10 minutes, or you you go through this, you'll be like, okay, that's just part of the program. That's a part of the journey. We have to accept that, you know. And a lot of people don't because they they think that once I identify my purpose, then I'm doing what I'm supposed to do, everything's gonna be easier. But then they have to realize that things get harder when you find yourself doing what you want to do. Because the situation it has to challenge you, and you have to live up to that challenge. But it but you also, once you live in order to do those challenges, just like um you have to have those tools that you spoke about. And those are the main important things. You find your purpose, you you get those tools to work on, and you just keep moving forward throughout your journey. And eventually, one day it might not look the way you want it to look, but that's okay. Because I guarantee you'll be happy on the you'll be happy because it's better than what you ever experienced.
SPEAKER_03Right. Yeah, I I you know, well, that's why M starts the acronym for me, meaning is so important. And I and I think it's great that you're bringing that up because just from a scientific perspective, um, there's a wonderful book that was written uh many years ago, and actually he continues this work. Dan Butner wrote a book called The Blue Zones, and it's about the five places on the globe where people live to be a hundred years old, and a fairly large population in these five places live to be a hundred years old. One of those places is Okinawa. And in Okinawa, they have what's called an iki guy, which is I like that you said the reason I'm bringing it up is you said, why do you getting out of bed? When you wake up and you go, I know I have a purpose for getting out of bed. Okinawans have an icky guy, which means essentially, why are you getting out of bed? What is your purpose in life? And these people are living to be a hundred. So having that purpose is also great for you physically, and it helps drive your life forward. And I do like also what you said about your purpose is you're gonna it's gonna ebb and flow. There's gonna be difficulties within that purpose, things that you're doing. You're gonna have to do stuff scared, you're gonna have to be do things that are challenging you. And I love that your show is called Flow with Floyd. And I had I see flow differently because I'm in the positive psychology world, and flow is by Mihai Chicksant Mihai. I know it's a mouthful, but he's a uh researcher that he developed the word flow for engagement in the 70s, and he talked to a lot of musicians and athletes and so on and tried to figure out why they were more centered. As we started this conversation, people that are in sports tend to be more disciplined, they uh, you know, get up, they tend to, you know, uh move forward in a different manner. And that's because of that flow. And and And the best way I describe it is if you've ever done an activity where you've lost track of time within that activity, and I'm not talking about scrolling people on social media. That is not what I'm talking about. So get that right out of your head right now. No. So because people have said that, well, this makes me lose track. No, no, no, no, no. It's something that's challenging to you because you need to learn a skill while you're doing it. And then all of a sudden, as you're doing that activity, you look at the time and you've been doing it for 20 minutes or an hour, and it feels like five seconds went by. That's flow. So you can add that into your podcast too.
SPEAKER_01That actually, you know, actually, you know, you know what's funny? Um, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I I did a I did a podcast on um either podcast or a course I was working on on how to get into the flow. And um one of the things was in order to get into the flow, you have to train your mind to when you hear it or you're around you in certain environments, it automatically shifts without you even knowing. Like for when I want to get ready for my podcast, the first thing I do is I play my intro. Because it's music, and I'm listening to it, okay, so that gets me into the mood. So whenever my mind hears that song, it's like, okay, oh, it's time to do the podcast. Yeah, because it's just something that comes so natural. And then you talk about sitting down doing something, and next thing you know, hours have gone past and you're like, where did the time go? It's because you were in that you was in that flow. And once you get into that flow, everything it's it's like the you know, the world slows down.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01You know, and you could just and you could just fill everything with that. And that's the flow that everybody needs to understand, you know. Um because it it it has made tremendous change in my life just taking that approach. You know, I also do ride share for lift. Okay, when I get into my car and I you know plug my um phone in and the start of the car play come on, I automatically know I'm getting ready to lift. So it's not something that so I and I get into my flow when I'm driving. I'm just like, mm-hmm, and my flow in my natural environment because I set it up that way. A lot of people think that, like for instance, and I have a room that's designated for me to record my podcast.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01Because you can't rec you can't record a podcast just anywhere, you can't do certain things just anywhere. For instance, you can't go in the bathroom and cook. The bathroom has its purpose, the your kitchen has its purpose, your living room has your purpose, so you need to have a purposeful room that when you walk into it, it is set up to bring about that creativity so that flow can come about. If that makes sense to you.
SPEAKER_02It does.
SPEAKER_01So, like when yeah, so when I walk into my mule, listen to my music, it's like Florida's getting ready to get into this flow, and then it's just gonna keep moving forward.
SPEAKER_03Right. Yeah, I think there are I I from from what I'm what I hear what I'm hearing and what I would digest that as of what you're saying is these rituals. You have rituals before you do these things. And uh in in martial arts, which emphasis on the word art, there's lots of ritual in that. And it gets your mind ready for what it is you're doing. You know, like the just just the simple activity of tying your belt. Um, you know, it explained to students when you tie your belt and you're pulling, you basically are pulling the ends of the belt to tie the square knot because you you tie a square knot. And when you do that, that's when you're dropping everything in your mind. And when you're gonna go out on the floor, and so you're I used to tell people that's when you're leaving your bags at the door. Don't bring your bags into the dojo. Don't bring your crap into the dojo. Because if you do, then when you're on the floor, several things happen. One, when you're in a sparring match and somebody hits you hard, you're in the I left the dishes in the sink. I've got a meeting with my boss tomorrow. I'm worried about it. I've got my kids are doing this, whatever, whatever it is that's distracting you. Now you're, you know, somebody's hit you and you've gone there and now you've lost. You're in the, you're not in the you're not in the flow of it. Um same thing as you're not allowing yourself the opportunity, because I used to tell the students, when you come for the hour class, it's a vacation. It's an hour vacation for you right here. Because we are never ever going to come out onto the floor and say, excuse me, the phone's for you, you know. So we're not gonna do that, we're not gonna interrupt you because we want you to experience that. So when so I used to experience that all the time, flow, all the time. It's a moving meditation. And I think that when we we can set up these rituals, like you've set up some rituals for yourself, which is great, because then it just gets you, you're into this, and you're like all of a sudden you go, Wow, I talked to that person for an hour and a half, and it didn't feel like that long, you know, because we just it kept moving in the right directions, the conversation. And then other things in life. It's not just we're not just, you know, going it back to the podcast. It's other things in your life that you can you can allow that to happen.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, just like when you get ready to cook, uh, you go in the kitchen, you get your pans, your sauces ready, you get everything prepared for it. Because when you're in the room, you know it's time to cook and you get into that natural flow. So it's something that we all can relate to. We just never, I don't think that no one ever broke it down to us that way. Even though there's books out there that are written about it, we just need to get people to understand that once you get into your flow of who you are and what you're here to do, then everything else is gonna work itself out. But you have to put, you have to deliberately and you have to be deliberate about this. You know, you talk about remember you're talking about you, um, you can't have interruptions. Um, your phone, you can't be on your phone, you can't be strolling, you can't be doing this because this time is dedicated for you to escape the noise of the world. Okay, and concentrate on what's real. And what's real is what's in front of you, not what's going on back out there in the world. You know, just you put your phone on do not disturb when you're working. Tell your kids, um, don't bother mom, dad for an hour. Tell your spouse, hey, I need to focus on this. And they can understand it because if they're part of your support system, they would truly, truly, truly understand that because what you're doing is that you're trying to make yourself better. And anytime anybody can speak against you trying to better yourself, that person is not on your team. And we need to understand that. And unfortunately in life, it you know, sometimes our husbands, our wives, our spouses, or um our mothers, our fathers, sons are not they they love us and they want the best for us, but they're not a part of our team. And they create more havoc and more um chaos than anything else. You know, like there's like something that's kind of weird is that you know, the majority of the people that you know won't support what you do, but people you don't know will support what you do. And that is something that it takes a people need to really, really understand that I understood that when I stepped out on this podcast um realm because the people, family and friends, they supported it in the beginning.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01Or they did not support in the beginning, but as I gained popularity and all this and I stuck to it, then I started that started getting in, you know. But then I got strangers like yourself, uh, strangers like other people reaching out to me about my podcast, and but just say, I want to offer my support. I want to help this podcast grow. I want to do whatever it is you want to do. And and regardless, even though we might not ever talk after this again, but I'm pretty sure we will. You know, um, you are part of my team, and I'm a part of your team because I'm invested in your well-being just as well as you're invested in mine, even if we never talked, if that makes sense to you.
SPEAKER_03It does. It does. And I I agree with, and I guess what I would what I would say, because I always try to err on the side of compassion and empathy for people, is I find the naysayers are just on it, they're on a different part of their journey. And maybe they're very afraid of like the people that were pushing back against you when you started a podcast, maybe because again, we can only see things through our own eyes. We can only see things through our own perspective. So when we when they hear about you doing a podcast, they think, oh my God, I could never do that. How is it that you could do that? That's and so they like to naysay with that because of the place they're at themselves. And maybe they're just not there yet. So um, you know, I used to get that all the time in martial arts, in training in martial arts. I mean, I have always my entire career, and not just my martial arts career, but every career that I've had has always been in a male-dominated field. And I've had a lot of naysayers that have I've talked to. You know, like I remember the very first time I get injured in martial arts. Of course, the biggest naysayer was my mother. She was like, Well, are you gonna stop that nonsense now? And I was like, No, I'm not. As a matter of fact, no, I realized how I needed even more because I have to be able to handle myself in a potential situation that could be dangerous for me. Um, I wound up just to tell you the brief story. I was sparring that day. I had a bad day at work. I at that time I was a licensed optician. I made glasses in New York State, and um I had a bad day at work, and I really should not have gone to class because my mind wasn't in it. And I'm sparring, and I put my hands down and I got hit in the face right here with a heel kick. And the person I was sparring with didn't mean to kick me there. It was my fault completely because I dropped my hands. One thing I learned about that was getting hit in the face doesn't actually hurt when it happens, it hurts after, but right when it happens, it's more shocking because you're not used to getting hit in the face. So, and then the other thing I learned about that was I was tough enough to get through that. I mean, I broke my sinus bone, I had to, you know, go to the emergency room, so on and so forth. It didn't make me quit. Um, other people would have quit. As a matter of fact, the gentleman that I was sparring with about six weeks later, he quit. So it's not always the person that gets injured that's the one that quits, it's the person who does it. And I I had a conversation with him. I didn't feel bad. It was my fault that I I dropped my hands. It wasn't his fault. So these are things that you know when people are around you and they don't support you, like you said, find other people to be on your team. It's okay, you don't have to cut them off, but they're just not on the same, they're not on the same part of the journey as you're on. Maybe they need to examine why am I afraid of maybe putting myself out there? That's a question they have to answer themselves. You can't answer answer that question. They have to do it if they're willing to do it. So, you know, kind of circling back around to the very beginning when we're talking about getting knocked down. Have I gotten knocked down many, many times? Have I had days where I thought, oh my god, what the heck am I doing? Absolutely. I used to sit in my car before class and I had a ritual. I would take my jewelry off, I'd put it there, I'd grip my steering wheel, and I'd breathe several times deeply, and I'd go, You can do this, you can do this. And I'd unleash my hands, go inside, get dressed, put my uniform on, and go out on that floor. And I didn't know what was gonna happen. And I just I just did showed up as best as I as best I could for every single class. But there were times when it wasn't good, but I kept doing it. And I think that's what we kind I think that's the gist of what we're talking about here today is do the hard stuff. It's so worth it. It really is. You're gonna fly if you do the hard stuff. Yeah, you can open the window and fly out the window.
SPEAKER_01As long as you keep going and keep moving forward, yeah. You can fly out of the window. Uh what we need to look at is that, and this is gonna be the uh final topic we've gonna discuss. How can we respond to setbacks without losing momentum? Yeah, everything is going along just fine. You know, in football, we used to call it a sudden change. The offense is driving down the field, and then all of a sudden the interception comes. Momentum has turned the other way. How do you respond to setbacks? Now, in sports, we realize that that's a part of the game. Okay, but in life, sometimes they don't realize that okay, setbacks are going to happen, but you can't allow it to lose your momentum because that play can change from one minute to the next. And I tell people about this this one story when I played football. In 1990 we were playing against Notre Dame. And we lost the game. They were playing in Oxfield, they were a number one ranked team in the country. We were, I think, believe in the top ten. But we were expected to win the ball game. Unfortunately, we lost the game. And one of the fallouts from us losing was I was no longer the starter, I lost my position. So essentially I was fired from doing my job. And I went through that. That's a major setback. You know? Um, and I and I went through a period where I just wanted to quit. I wanted to walk away from the game because I had invested so much into becoming a starter now to have it taken away from me because of a bad game or whatever the situation may be. It just didn't sit well with me. And one day I was just thinking about quitting, quitting, quitting, and then this voice sort of like said to me, You can't quit. It said, This is not about football, this is about life. If you quit now, you're gonna quit at some point in the future. So I decided, you know what? After talking with my mother, my support system, and I decided I'm going to go back in and just gonna keep it, even though I lost my momentum, even though I had the setback, I'm gonna keep doing what I have been doing, because obviously I've been doing something right. The very next game we played was against Ole Miss in Memphis, Tennessee. I did not play at all except one play. And during that extra kick, we blocked the field goal. I ran it back 98 yards. The only play I played now. And that score gave us the SSC championships. And my point is that the week before, I was in everybody's doghouse, including the coaches. But that ended that chapter. Okay, had I quit, I never would have experienced that new chapter when we won the championship. So you never really know how far you're away from from that turnaround or next level. So I would say to respond to setbacks is realize it's just part, it's just part of it. It's part of life.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01But I can't stop doing what I've been doing because again, it it works.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I I I would I would agree with you that, you know, I I guess how I would frame it for myself to share with people is kind of what I've said. I I feel like I've said it a few times lately, um because I've reconnected with the with a bunch of girlfriends that I knew when I was in high school, which I'm not gonna say how long ago that was, but it was quite a while ago. Um and uh and I I think what I would say is that we're all every s and I believe I said at the beginning of this, we everybody's gonna have um we're gonna all come back up against crossroads. We're gonna all have difficulties. And so it's part of the human experience. And I think what it is is when people have these things that happen to them, they think they're alone. And and I get that because sometimes when you're facing something that's so difficult, you feel like you're the only person out there that's going through this because it may be a weight that you feel like you can't lift. And that's not true because you're telling yourself the wrong thing, that there's a lot of people out there that have gone through things and they are going through things, and you're not alone. And and we and when we look at the things that um happen to us, we have that choice of how do we use that information? The failures, the challenges, the setbacks, they come they become information for us instead of um the things that drag us down. And that's a mindset and that's a choice is how can I take that information and build something from it? Now, that being said, when you have some major tragedies, like um I think one of the most major tragedies that I could say of people that I know that I've talked to um has experienced things have experienced things my own life, when you have death in your families or death of close friends, or uh a child dies, for example. Those are super heavy weights. And you have to go through the grieving process. You have to allow yourself to grieve, go through everything. But if you think about the grief process, the five's the five levels of grief, and the last one is acceptance, I'd like to add T to that last level, which is transcendent. I want to transcend my grief. I don't just want to quote accept it in some way. I want to transcend it. And you saying you're starting a podcast, that's part of transcending your grief. Like um I I can't think of what his name is, but he started that uh TV show about catching criminals because his son was kidnapped and John, I can't really think of his last name.
SPEAKER_02Walsh button.
SPEAKER_03I think it's Walsh, W-A-L-S-H. Yeah, and they've arrested a hundred tons of criminals because of this show. That's what I'm talking about for transcendence. He took all this grief, this horror, this and insurmountable pain. And he he had to feel it all at first. And he couldn't just right after his that happened to his son, he couldn't turn around and go, Wow, I'm gonna do a TV show. That's not what happened there. It took a while to go through all of that. But then he went, What can I do to move forward with this? And how can I transcend this? And how can this be a blessing to other people? Um, one of the things I shared with um a person that I know that uh dear family member uh lost their life, they weren't sure whether it was on purpose, if whether the per the person took their life or it was an accident. And um, this friend of mine had a terrible time with that, of course, who wouldn't. And it lasted years and years and years beyond that incident. And I said to her, I said, What is the gift of this young person that was in your life? Because the person was only in early teens. What is the gift? Now anybody else would have been had horror on their face, like, oh my gosh, how would you think a teenager young teenager dying is a gift? And it wasn't like I said it to her two days after it happened, because that's not appropriate, obviously. But this is years and years after. And she I said once she got over me going saying that and going, What? She said, Well, our family was so much closer right after it happened. I said, Well, that's a gift. I said, What happened with that? And she said, We really spent a lot more time together. And I think I realized what truly mattered. And I I said, Well, there's another gift. And I and what was happening with her is she was not she's locking herself in her house for the most part. And I said You're not honoring this person's life by doing what you're doing now. So why I'm bringing this up is when you're thinking about these setbacks, yes, go through all the things that we have to go through when we have a setback. The pity party, if you will. And but then pick yourself up. Dust yourself off. Okay, let me analyze that. What did I learn about that failure? What did I learn about that challenge? What did I learn about that tragedy? How can I make that make how can that make me stronger going forward? What do I now have to offer? Maybe I have something more to offer to people. Maybe I have something more just to offer to my family and how I interact with them and how I feel about myself. And I think that I mean, I think that's a way that I look at that of setbacks and how you move forward for them. Am I saying that's easy? Absolutely not. It is not easy. But we can do hard things. It's a great um if you've ever seen a league of their own, it's an old baseball movie about female the female baseball players when the men went off to World War II and then they tried to have women's baseball. It's a great movie, and Tom Hanks says if it were easy, everyone would do it. It's the hard that makes it great. And that's exactly what we're talking about here. It's the hard that makes you great. Working through the hard things is what makes you great. And know that you can ha handle the next thing that comes along. And I think that's what I learned from Karate too. The more you get hit, the more you know I can handle the next thing coming at me. You must have learned that from football too, right? Because you guys get you get hit in football.
SPEAKER_01Most definitely. Um that is that that is something that we do learn, and we do get hit a lot. Um, but I remember the hardest time I got hit was I was playing receiver, and and the um coach kept telling me I was running this five-yard hitch. It's just a stop and turn around and catch the ball. And but the defensive back is kind of about seven yards off of me. But the coach kept telling me you have to run back to the ball because if you don't, the defensive back is gonna catch you because you're standing still and he's running full speed towards you. I wasn't listening, wasn't believing what he was saying. And one time I turned around and I caught the ball. As soon as I turned around, uh, Mark Fletcher hit me, pow, ran the mouth. Messed up my upper lip. And I was like, okay. And you know what the coach told me? I bet you'll listen this next time. You know, so so you you get knocked down. You you do get knocked down in life, you get knocked down in life with everything. And one thing that I always encourage people to do is to own up to your grieving. It's okay not to be okay. And there's nothing wrong with that. You know, you owe that to yourself, you know, because nobody, nobody can understand, even though they might have been through similar things, because we all respect, we all respond to things of tragedy in life in different ways. So how I might respond might be different from you. I shouldn't look at you and say, okay, you're not, you didn't care because you didn't respond the way I would have responded. And then we we do that. But I I I say it's this okay. If you're if you're mad, you're frustrated, you you sit life seems like you're losing at this point in time and you just don't know what to do, that's okay. But then the main thing is like you said, you have to get back up. You have to make that transition or transcend into doing something else because regardless of the situation you went through, you didn't go through it without a reason. There's a reason for everything that happened. That happened in our life. I think we need to pay attention to those things. And then life would be a lot uh just a tad bit easier. You know, a tad bit to understand, you know, just a tad bit. It's not gonna be much, but we can we can deal and cope with things a lot better. Um, Jan, I've really enjoyed our time today. I've learned a lot of things that I'm going to meditate on. I'm gonna let it marinate in my mind because you you spoke with such eloquence, knowledge. You gave us the science aspect of it, you gave us the psychological aspect of and it's you know never giving up. And I just want to appreciate you. I just want to go and give you your flowers while we have the opportunity to do it. I had an awesome, awesome time with you. Uh, what I'm going to do at this point in time.
SPEAKER_03So much. It's it's been great. It's it's been wonderful, Floyd. Thank you very much. Thank you for including me in your uh circle of people, your your sphere that you have here, that you've grown. And I I'm honored to be a part of that. And I hope that something we've discussed today touches somebody else. Because if you just touch one person with something you've said and they get something and it speaks to them, it's so amazing. You've you've done something um to move the conversation forward.
SPEAKER_01Right. And you know what that's all you need, one person. You know what's wrong? One person.
SPEAKER_03One person.
SPEAKER_01And all it takes is one person, and they said everything like a Wi-Fi. And I do believe that the listeners are going to get so much from you. So much. Um, if you want to go ahead and close us out, uh, tell us how how they can reach you, your website, and any information that you want to provide for them.
SPEAKER_03Um, my my website, I can be reached at selfcare sensei.com. Small wonder. Uh, and there's all my information about my speaking because that is my a passion that I have now. Um I speak for organizations to help them because everybody's made up of it, and all organizations are made up of people. So the better the people are, the better everything else is. Um, and I wrote my book, uh Strive for More, What Well-being really means and how you can achieve it. And that's if you just Google that, Strive for More, Jan Rader. Um, you should be able to find it on Amazon and Barnes and Noble and and a lot of different places. And the other thing is I can be, I I'm on social media, of course, LinkedIn, um, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Instagram, social uh on social media, Facebook and Instagram, I'm on self-care sensei. And what I I'm inviting people to do is every Wednesday, here for about two years now, and I'm just trying to get the algorithm to change so so that we think about good things. So I think other than that, that would be yeah.
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SPEAKER_00Ooh, yeah. Flow with me tonight. After all the static, it's time for something true. Let the vibe connect me right here with you.
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