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CHRISTOPHER HALL: The next big gay comedy star, Gwen Stefani’s background singers and dating busy men
Comedian Christopher Hall is a man to watch. He's a stand-up comic, an unofficial background singer to the likes of Shania Twain, Gwen Stefani and The Jonas Brothers, and an undeniable social media star. His observational humour and popular online content has amassed him a combined following of over 1 million people on Instagram and TikTok, all from trying his hand at comedy during lockdown. We discuss how losing all of his work during covid lead him to start making funny videos, how him and his sister went from singing in to broken mic stands to standing behind mega-stars, and how men in London are seemingly too busy to date.
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JON DEAN (00:02):
This week I'm joined by Christopher Hall, who is definitely a comedian to look out for. He's a standup, a
dancer, an unofficial background singer to the likes of Danny Minogue and Shania Twain. More about
that later. If you like his videos, then you're going to love this chat. Okay. Christopher Hall, let's have it
all out. So I want to go straight into you and comedy. Okay. I know that you had a gig last night because
you've started your own night called LGBT.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (00:34):
Yeah. It rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?
JON DEAN (00:36):
Yeah, I think it's actually a good thing. It's just like how many he's do you put on the end? I dunno. I
know
CHRISTOPHER HALL (00:40):
LGBT. He. He.
JON DEAN (00:41):
Okay. So tell me about that. So this is a night that you do with one of your friends who's also a comedian?
Yeah,
CHRISTOPHER HALL (00:47):
Yeah. With Mark Brittle Stone. It was his night originally, about three and a half years ago he started it.
And then I've, we've been sort of comedy working together in comedy for a couple of years. We did a
split bill show in Edinburgh together a couple of years ago. And then, yeah, we've been running that
together for about two years now. Two and a half years. Basically the last three years has just been me
being just saying yes to everything and just being like, yeah, why not? So yeah, just said, yeah, let's do it.
And then it's been wonderful since then. Great. We're both doing separate shows this year. We did
separate shows last year, but separate shows this year, we're both doing big hour long shows separately
this year.
JON DEAN (01:26):
Would you say that comedy is something that you've always been interested in, even as a child?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (01:30):
I feel like being funny was always kind of a social survival tactic. I think I've always been aware that I
was more feminine or camper or not as good at sport or anything like that. In social situations, I feel like
groups of kids that I was hanging out with, whether they were family friends or trying to navigate school,
I was always like, how am I going to get through these situations unscathed? And it was usually to make
everyone laugh. So I feel I honed those skills quite early on. And then So you
JON DEAN (02:18):
Were known as the funny one at school
CHRISTOPHER HALL (02:21):
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Or probably the annoying one at school? No. Yeah, the funny one to my friends or the annoying one to
the teachers. And then I did musical theatre for 10 years.
JON DEAN (02:32):
Oh yeah, you went to Guildford,
CHRISTOPHER HALL (02:33):
Right? Yeah. So I went to Lane Theatre Arts, which was a three year course, and then a year later,
basically at Lane you get a national diploma in musical theatre, which in some areas of the world means
something and in other areas means absolutely nothing. And I was having a bit of a crisis a couple years
later, and you can top that up to a degree. So you basically do a kind of distance year at Guilford and you
can make it a degree, which again, still hasn't been the most useful. Having a degree in theatre doesn't do
the most for your careers. But yeah, then I was always remember, I love making people laugh. I think it's
actually such a great way of connecting with people and building relationships if you can make each other
laugh. But then also I'm very shy in new situations.
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I really get very timid and very quiet if I meet a big group of people or in a room of strangers. So yes, I
always was funny in my sort of life, but I never thought, because I kind of committed to dancing and
theatre and thought this was the best thing ever and I'm going to be a dancer, I'm going to be a dancer.
And then even maybe in my mid twenties when I was like, I kind of wouldn't mind. I feel like if I tried
my hand at comedy, I'd do well. It almost felt like I was so committed to dancing that if I swapped, if I
changed lanes, it would just be too much of an upheaval. And I was like, oh, I've done X amount of years
committing to dancing now. There's no way I can go back to the bottom of a different ladder or swap one
unstable career for another one. Yeah, when I told my parents, I was like, I'm going to do comedy now.
They were like,
JON DEAN (04:32):
Like, oh my God, what's next?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (04:33):
Actually, yeah, please, please just be a teacher. Anything. Definitely feel like I've found my groove and
found what is unique, what I can uniquely bring to the world or to
JON DEAN (04:48):
Entertain space, know who you are. I did a comedy course last year because I just wanted to try it out, and
one of the things that they said is, you need to wait for your comedy voice to drop. So it's like, where do
you feel like you've got your onstage persona? When's that sunk in that you know who you are, your tone
of voice, your perspective on things, how you interact with the audience and that sort of thing. And they
basically kept saying that this was something that takes years to drop. It's sort of a funny visual of this
dropping you just like having this moment on stage, but you feel like that's landed with you.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (05:23):
Yeah, definitely. I think if I was doing what I'm doing now 10 years ago, I think I'd be finding it much
more difficult to connect with people, much more difficult to find material. And when I first started
putting content out and sharing my humour, I remember thinking, this makes me laugh. And I like the
joke and that's the most important thing. And if no one else likes it, then that's fine. And what's been so
nice is that everyone's been like, oh my God, I've shared this in my group chat and me and the girls or me
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and my friends love this, so like us, or this is such our humour, which is so nice. So I feel it brings, I feel
I'm trying to just be me. Well, I'm not trying to make anyone laugh that doesn't want to laugh kind of
thing. And if people don't find it funny, then that's totally cool. There's loads of other comedians that you
can go and find. I think
JON DEAN (06:29):
What you are so good at as somebody that likes your content, you're so good with your videos online at
finding the minutia about everyday situations. So those sort of looks and those glances and that sort of,
you've done videos and when housemates do this and X, Y, Z or whatever, but you are very good at
bringing something which is very relatable, very day to day and making it so funny because everybody
knows what you're talking about. Everybody has that housemate, everybody knows that parent reaction
and that sort of thing. So you must just have a really good eye for knowing what's funny out of the
ordinary.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (07:06):
Yeah, I hope so. So again, I think it's just come from chatting to friends about things and when you have a
private joke that's not funny to anybody else, but yeah, I think you can find something universal just in the
everyday.
JON DEAN (07:23):
So would you say that you were going back to when you were younger, were you just a funny kid in the
sense that you were a bit of a class clown and making everybody laugh all the time and that sort of
CHRISTOPHER HALL (07:32):
Thing? Yeah. Yeah. A class clown to the point of getting in trouble for
JON DEAN (07:38):
It. Suspension.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (07:39):
Never got suspended, but definitely got, Chris has far too much fun talking and entertaining his friends
then actually doing his work. Yeah, always. I remember on the playground, do you remember Alistair
McGowan's Big Impression? No.
JON DEAN (07:56):
Alistair McGowan, that name. Yeah, it
CHRISTOPHER HALL (07:57):
Was like an impression show. It was a kind of sketch show, but he's a comedian. He used to do these
amazing impressions of current people in the culture. And me and a couple of friends at school used to
watch, it was on Friday night and I'd memorise the whole TV show the whole 30 minutes and be doing all
the impressions on the playground in school on Monday and just recount performing before the Ruby
Wax impression to everyone.
JON DEAN (08:30):
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But I love that you have the confidence that can get drilled out of you as you get older, especially if you're
gay because you feel scared to be camp and scared to be feminine. I always found solace in girls when I
was at school. I could be always, yeah, definitely my funny self around girls, whereas with the boys, I was
like a stone. Were you the same with everyone or would you say that you had your safe people at school?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (08:52):
It kind of depends. I think I went to a few different primary schools and I feel where by the time I went to
four in total and then by the fourth one I coming in in year five. And I remember that was the first time I
was like, I remember some of the boys were not bothered. They were like, oh, here's Chris. Obviously not
as interested in sport or not as good at it. And obviously talking the way I did and acting the way I did it
was probably quite obvious.
JON DEAN (09:29):
I used to get embarrassed about reminiscing about being younger and super camp and dancing around and
Barbies and all that sort of thing. Whereas, I dunno. How do you feel reflecting on that younger version of
you? Because I dunno, did you ever have a time when you went, oh God, that's you retreated, or have you
just been performing and being funny from then till now?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (09:50):
It definitely goes in waves. I think I went to four different primary schools. I remember going to my
fourth one coming in at the end of year five and feeling that was maybe the first time when I had to really
navigate how am I going to play it with this new group of people. I always managed to make friends with
the sort of ones that can maybe play a bit of sport, but then they also like to do a bit of drama or
something or they do something anyway. So I remember having to, I found friends in that year six group,
but I remember being like, oh, there's definitely some boys in this class that aren't going to want to spend
any time with me. And maybe that was a projection of me, or it was a defence mechanism being like, I'm
just going to give them a wide ber and not get in their way kind of thing. And then I remember secondary
school was a lot more navigation. I feel like I was a military operation trying to just keep out of people's
way or make, but making people laugh and trying to get through there. But
JON DEAN (11:02):
The girls were there.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (11:04):
Well, I went to a boys' school, shit.
JON DEAN (11:06):
Really?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (11:06):
Yeah. Whose
JON DEAN (11:07):
Decision
CHRISTOPHER HALL (11:08):
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Was this? My parents. Oh, right. Yeah.
JON DEAN (11:11):
I was going to say it was one of them leaning more towards putting you in a boys only or was it a good
school in the area? It
CHRISTOPHER HALL (11:16):
Was a good school in the area, but they both were like, this would be a good place for Chris to kind of
mask up a bit, I think.
JON DEAN (11:27):
Really? No.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (11:29):
Yeah.
JON DEAN (11:29):
Do you seriously think it was something to do with that?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (11:31):
Yeah. Really? Yeah. And obviously it went amazingly. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, it went really, really
well.
JON DEAN (11:37):
But the ruby wax impressions went down
CHRISTOPHER HALL (11:39):
Really? Exactly. Oh, they loved it. But no, I think I always, yeah, so kind of come way, but then I feel if I
got comfortable then I'd be able to show off or not show off, but perform more again, kind of dance
around or whatever. But it was alright. At primary school it was a bit harder at secondary school. I feel
the biggest thing we missed out on was teenage kisses or dancing with someone at a disco and all that
kind of stuff that I feel people start their teens, or
JON DEAN (12:12):
Even in social circles, feeling comfortable to talk about first experiences with people. Totally. Because all
something you're holding inside and we didn't have the internet or did we not? No, we didn't really,
CHRISTOPHER HALL (12:22):
We had the internet.
JON DEAN (12:23):
What it's like today. It wasn't
CHRISTOPHER HALL (12:25):
No,
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JON DEAN (12:26):
Oh,
CHRISTOPHER HALL (12:27):
No access to information or it wasn't
JON DEAN (12:28):
Proper discussions and things happening.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (12:29):
Totally. None. Yeah, none.
JON DEAN (12:31):
So there was really no one you could talk to about those feelings and things you were doing behind closed
doors.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (12:36):
Yeah, 100%. Which could feel very lonely. And anytime you did speak to anyone, yeah, obviously. Well,
I carried a huge amount of shame and a huge amount of just everything being so secretive. And I think
that's something that's really manifested in my adult life is my, I can be very communicative and very
emotive and descriptive about loads of things apart from my in relationships and my feelings. I find that
very difficult to talk about. So yeah, let's
JON DEAN (13:16):
Talk about them now.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (13:18):
Yeah. What was
JON DEAN (13:19):
It? TikTok part two therapy?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (13:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
JON DEAN (13:23):
Going back to comedy, your life online, TikTok is blowing up for you in the sense of you've been really
successful and continue to be on videos. So what was the start of you noticing you were going viral
online?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (13:43):
It happened pretty swiftly from starting to post. My first character was a millennial locked down in his
parents' house, which who knows where I got that inspiration from. Can't think where. So it was like a
millennial wrapped in this blanket in lockdown, and I was explaining to my mom who was off screen
about tarot cards and crystals and things that a 30-year-old would be doing to help get him through
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lockdown from having no followers on TikTok. So I was literally posting to a clean slate the first, my
fifth, one of those was 10,000 views or something, which from nothing. I was like, that's amazing. I was
like, oh, well, I guess we're doing something. It was enough to be like, okay, cool. I'll post again
tomorrow. And then it was in lockdown, so I had very little else to structure my day around, so I was like,
yeah, I posted daily for probably the first four months, five months of posting. What's nice is when I meet
people after the show, or if some people come and say hello when I'm out and they say, oh, I, I've been
following since lockdown and I was, I'm always like, oh, one of the OGs, hello. They always go, you got
me through lockdown. That was me lockdown with my parents or back in my childhood bedroom and
lighting candles and blessing, trying to do crystal rituals because just didn't know what we were doing is
we were turning to the magic to help get us through.
JON DEAN (15:32):
But you weren't doing comedy before TikTok then. You had never done a standup show before?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (15:35):
No. Well, people have been telling me to do or suggest that my little sister and friends have been like, you
should do comedy, you should do content. So yeah, it was like that lockdown and I was like, you're not
doing anything else. Everything is completely gone. So this is like if you don't do it now, you'll never do
it. And if you start putting videos out and no one likes them and everyone thinks they're stupid, you're not
going to see anyone for the next five months. So you've literally have nothing to lose. Kind of lost most
things already. So yeah, it just felt like it was like then or never. But yeah, the last three and a half years
have just felt a train on a track just going, which has just felt, if I stop to think about it too much, I get
quite overwhelmed and quite, it gets a bit too much to really think about. So I'm just, sometimes I just sort
of let it happen and let it tape me.
JON DEAN (16:37):
And how do you say motivated? Because content creation, even though it might look easy to people, just
pick up your phone and do a funny video, but you have to write it, you have to think about it, you have to
maybe pull people in to help you out, but even just get up and actually do it when you might not be in the
mood you haven't posted in a couple of days. How do you find the consistency? How do you manage to
keep up with it?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (17:01):
I really enjoy it, so I think I really enjoy making the videos and I really enjoy what making the videos
brings. So I've so great. I'm so thankful and excited that I started doing standup because I literally have so
much fun. I love it so much and I love how the videos make people feel when people say, when I meet
people in person and they say, this one's so funny, this one, oh my God, we quote this one or whatever,
that must
JON DEAN (17:39):
Feel great when she
CHRISTOPHER HALL (17:40):
Like, that's lovely.
JON DEAN (17:41):
That's a quote. How fun.
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CHRISTOPHER HALL (17:42):
Yeah, that's amazing. Sometimes people quote my videos to me and I'm like, what are you saying? And
they're like, oh, it's from the one you did two years ago. And I was like, oh, I don't remember that one.
But I love that that's yours. I think I have quite a good element of, you might not be feeling it today, but
you have to. So get up and do it. And then I think that helps with my consistency and the output. Do
JON DEAN (18:11):
You ever have days when you're like, I'm just not up for this. I can't, yeah. Being a comedian as well. If
you had a show last night, if you were just having a day where you just felt like crap, how do you then
pull yourself around to go on stage and actually make loads of people laugh?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (18:24):
So far? Touch word. Doing standup always puts me in a good mood, and I'm aware that there are peaks
and troughs and maybe sometimes I'll be having such a bad day that it won't or I won't enjoy it. I know
that that might happen, but I just love performing. Obviously I'm now doing a different style of
performing as I have been in the past, but I just love getting on stage and it's where I have so much the
most fun. Even if I've been having a bad day or I've been tired or anything, the always kind of show
adrenaline and everything kind of masks. It's a great drug to put you in a good mood. Yeah.
JON DEAN (19:13):
Okay. So one of your most popular social media series has been the background singers where you
essentially imitate background singers to famous artists. And this has been such a success that you've
actually managed to get some of the artists themselves to be in the videos. Tell us the origin of this.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (19:34):
So my little sister used to live, she lived in the States for about four years, and then she moved back to
London and moved in together. It was about 1:00 AM in the morning. We were listening to Muna and it
has this funny underwater backing that's like, stay away, stay, stay. And the idea just came to me, I was
like, oh, wouldn't it be funny if someone was actually singing? And I was like, oh, we can put some
choreo with it. And we have these two busted mic stands because Elizabeth's a singer, so she just has this
barely together mic stand. And I had a ring light stand, but the ring light broke, so it's half a ring light
stand. I was like, oh, these can be our mics. Ha.
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And I was like, do you want to be in it? And she was like, okay, there's no reason why I can't be. And that
was at 1:00 AM I think we posted it at one or 2:00 AM in the morning, and then within 24 hours it had
done really well. And Muna had commented on it just being like, love this or something. And we were
like, oh my God, how has that actually gone through the internet to the artist? And then yeah, just again,
didn't know. We just found it so funny. We thought it was great and we were like, let's do songs that we
like and people that we like. And then it's just been nuts. As soon as we posted the next couple, I'd never
gotten a million views on a video, I don't think, until these ones. And yeah, the second or third one was a
million views and I was like, Elizabeth, this is going nuts and you are now under contract. And then it's
been so amazing. I think we've had only maybe a handful that hasn't been commented on by the artist,
which is amazing. And obviously totally fine if the artist doesn't want to comment, but
JON DEAN (21:42):
Rude of Beyonce not to get,
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CHRISTOPHER HALL (21:43):
I know, fair Beyonce and Taylor Swift particularly absent in the comments. And then yeah, people just
started really engaging and started getting celebrity collabs after about six weeks, really two months of
doing it. Really?
JON DEAN (22:03):
Who was your first artist that said, I want
CHRISTOPHER HALL (22:04):
To be in the Jonas Brothers?
JON DEAN (22:05):
Oh my God, I
CHRISTOPHER HALL (22:06):
Remember seeing that. She like nuts. I thought
JON DEAN (22:07):
This was ai.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (22:09):
Oh yeah. Everyone was like, this is edited. And I was like, guys, if you really think I'm good enough for
editing
JON DEAN (22:14):
Videos
CHRISTOPHER HALL (22:15):
To do that. But yeah, no, and I remember texting this with being like, Hey, we might be, how'd you fancy
about filming with the Jonas Brothers? And she literally was like, are you out of your mind? We have to
do
JON DEAN (22:28):
That. So who got in touch with who? They just sent you a DM or something?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (22:31):
Yeah, somebody on their team
JON DEAN (22:33):
And saying, what we like this video, we want. Yeah,
CHRISTOPHER HALL (22:36):
How'd you fancy? The boys are doing a content day in London, so it was us and a few other influencers
and stuff. Do you want to come and did you have to film it with them?
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JON DEAN (22:48):
You had to do everything, basically your same stuff at home you brought to them or did they have their
CHRISTOPHER HALL (22:53):
Own? So Joe started to sort of direct a little bit and we were like, please, however you
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Sir, do please step in. Because again, we didn't really know. Now we're quite good at being like, Hey,
we'll do this, we'll do this, and it's just going to be like this. And that's how the whole day will run. But we
definitely, the whole session, filming session, we'll run. But yeah, we were very much pretty starstruck
and didn't quite know how to play it. And then also, I adore that people love the bit and love how simple
it is and everything like that, but then when you're stood in front of Gwen Stefani or Shana Twain who are
just complete legends and you're like, we are going to lip sync and step, click behind you, and they're like,
really? And I'm like, yeah, I know. That's all it is.
JON DEAN (23:50):
Have you done Gwen St. Yeah. Does she look as good in real life?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (23:54):
Incredible.
JON DEAN (23:55):
I can't get over how incredibly well preserved she
CHRISTOPHER HALL (23:58):
Is absolutely beautiful.
JON DEAN (24:00):
Yeah, she's not even overdone. She just looks
CHRISTOPHER HALL (24:02):
Great. Just stunning.
JON DEAN (24:03):
Wow, that must've been such a moment. Few. And your sisters just
CHRISTOPHER HALL (24:06):
Unreal. I had to sit down on a curb outside of the place after Gwen. Wow.
JON DEAN (24:13):
I can imagine.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (24:15):
I just had to take stock for a minute.
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But you're getting, these are some of the biggest artists in the world, so who knows. You could have
maybe Beyonce or Taylor Swift or who's your dream, who would you love to do it for?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (24:30):
Well, there are some choices,
JON DEAN (24:32):
But no, give me one that you would love.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (24:36):
I've said it on a few times and I think it's a bit cringe. It's a bit thirsty, but I would love to do Kelly
Clarkson.
JON DEAN (24:41):
Okay. Why is that thirsty?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (24:42):
Only because I feel like I've mentioned her. That's been my answer for a couple of times. And I feel like
she might be like, oh my God, go away.
JON DEAN (24:47):
No, she'd be all over it. Surely
CHRISTOPHER HALL (24:50):
I get it. But no, that would be amazing. Yeah.
JON DEAN (24:54):
Well, have you done a Kelly Clarkson background singer without her? We have.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (24:59):
You have? Yeah, we've done a
JON DEAN (25:00):
Couple. And then just to really hammer home how much you want to,
CHRISTOPHER HALL (25:05):
Yeah,
JON DEAN (25:09):
No, I do want to talk about relationships and dating and also because you are a face that gays might
recognise when they're out and that sort of thing. Are you single, do you have a partner?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (25:22):
I'm
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JON DEAN (25:22):
Single. You're single. What's your view on modern dating?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (25:28):
I think London's pretty busy and I think everyone's pretty busy, so I think it's really hard to date people
because they're quite busy. Right,
JON DEAN (25:42):
Okay.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (25:44):
Yeah, I think when you like, oh, when should we meet? And it's like, okay, cool. How's next Sunday?
And you're like, oh, can't do next Sunday. And it's like, oh, okay. How about a week on Thursday then?
JON DEAN (25:53):
Are you a fan of dating apps?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (25:55):
I go through phases. I feel like you go into them with quite a lot of enthusiasm and you can be, it's good to
get on them and have a little go, and then I feel like it runs its course and you need to kind of take a step
back and then dive straight back in. I think dating is so tricky because one needs to know exactly what
they're looking for and I think sometimes I've thought I've known what I've wanted out of dating or out of
a relationship or out of getting on the apps kind of thing, but maybe not really know or that's not been
really what I've
JON DEAN (26:45):
So you're winding down the dating apps at the moment?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (26:47):
Yeah, I think I'm going to take a step back from the apps for the foreseeable.
JON DEAN (26:52):
What's, when people recognise you from TikTok or something, is that, is that something that you like or
CHRISTOPHER HALL (26:59):
On
JON DEAN (26:59):
Dating, like dating apps, if someone goes, oh my God, I love your videos. Do you like that opening or is
it not something you're keen on?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (27:08):
I think it's funny. Do you know what? So I'm not that hugely. Oh, I don't believe I am. My following is
85% women and there's not a huge amount of men. I don't think that really follow me that much
compared. So I get girls nine times out of 10 if someone recognises me, it would be a girl.
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JON DEAN (27:35):
If you went to Westfield, you'd be like, I'm going to get stopped at some point by a
CHRISTOPHER HALL (27:40):
Girl. A girl. Yeah, yeah. Which is lovely. And they always say, my mom loves you and my auntie loves
you. And I'm like, I love being for the moms and the aunties. And so it just doesn't happen that much. It's
happened a bit more recently in dating, but it's just not something that's come up too much for me to
really have a strong, I don't like that or I do like that. I think if someone says initially like, oh, I obviously
know who I feel, if someone does recognise me, then that's a bit easier. I don't have to be like, well, by the
way, I do these silly things online where someone goes like, oh, I love what you do online. I'm like, oh
thanks. And then you can move on from that.
JON DEAN (28:25):
Would you say that you are big into clubbing and going out?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (28:30):
I feel this is a very interesting time in my life because I really don't don't like being hungover. I love
going out, loved partying, and I just don't feel I have the time to be hungover or time to be tired at the
moment just with work. And I love going out on holiday. I feel like when you go out on holiday or if
you're out of London, I feel like it's my anxiety about work ethic and getting things done. And because
I'm, I'm have self-motivate all the time and create, if nobody makes a video for me, nobody writes my
standup. For me. If I go on stage and I haven't written anything new, it's just a waste of a gig kind of
thing. So I find London very, we we're in London for a purpose, then it's to pursue what we're pursuing.
Whereas if we go to Manchester for the weekend, it feels like just,
JON DEAN (29:40):
It was like a
CHRISTOPHER HALL (29:40):
Novel team. It's just a novel team when we're out of town and like, oh my God, let's just run up and down
Canal Street and be silly. That just feels so much more fun. So yeah, I have an interesting relationship. I
think with going out now, it also, the hangover is just dreadful. And then I also get really bad anxiety
when I'm hungover. Yeah, awful. Just embarrassingly bad. I just always think I've upset everyone. And
you have? I have. Yeah. No, my friend for a while, my friends are like, no, you didn't say anything. No,
why would I be annoyed at you? And I always be like, are you mad at me? And they're like, why? What
would you have done? And I just go like, oh, I dunno. But I literally can't sleep. I
JON DEAN (30:26):
Feel like people being hung over now is just a circle of people thinking they've annoyed everyone else. So
nobody talks to anybody.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (30:32):
Yeah, exactly.
JON DEAN (30:35):
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How would you deal with, do you ever feel lonely with your job? Because yeah, when you're a creative, I
work alone predominantly. When you are doing comedy as well and writing and travelling and this sort of
thing, how do you fight off the feeling of like, oh, I'm just alone at home writing?
CHRISTOPHER HALL (30:55):
I think it's something that I'm experiencing a lot. I just went abroad. I was just in Australia for some
shows, which was absolutely incredible. And the last time I feel I travelled to a warm country for work
was I did a cruise ship when I was 24 and flew to Miami for rehearsals.
JON DEAN (31:18):
Fun. Sounds fun.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (31:19):
It was the best year. Well, for a long time it was the best year of my life. It was just the best. I'm hoping
that I feel the last few years have been pretty great. So it is top five years of my life and I flew into
Adelaide for the Fringe this year and I texted one of my friends and I was like, oh my God, this feeling of
stepping out into the heat and then being here for work, it just feels like when we went to Miami and that
is such an amazing sense memory. And I was like, oh, it's happening again. It was so cool. But then what
was different is that I was with 24 people in a cast in Miami and going to so many new places and
experiences and you're with so many people. Whereas there's a few times in Australia when I was just
like, oh, it's literally just me, so I'm not sure what we're going to do.
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I just have to make myself, make myself entertained. And that was definitely, and I texted people at home
and I said, oh, everything's going great, but I'm quite lonely. And everyone was like, oh no, that's so bad.
I'm like, oh no, it's not a bad thing. It's is just an experience that is happening. It's not necessarily a bad
thing, it's just what it is and it's just different. And I think travelling, obviously being a comedian, unless
you're in a sketch group or you're in a duo or whatever, is just a bit more of a lone wolf, lonelier wolf
experience. And so yeah, I just don't need that much time alone. I quite like it. So that's the only thing that
I miss about theatre compared to comedy. And even with comedy, you're sort of getting yourself to a spot
and then you're leaving by yourself and might be with you, you might now, I've made some friends, some
standup friends. So I think when you meet a friend and you go like, we are going to be friends, oh my
God, I have to be friends with you because there's just something about you that I just want to be around.
I think that's where there's so much magic in life when things click into place. I think that's really nice to
believe that there's some kind of sparkle there.
JON DEAN (33:45):
Me and my brother talk about the same thing. We say that sometimes you can meet somebody and
honestly not even speak to them, but they're in a circle and you just lock eyes and be like, God, you non a
romantic sense. You're like, I'm going to love you. We're supposed to know each other. Our magnets are
for some reason coming together for sure. And then you get the same thing where you don't like
somebody, not in a hating way, but it's like, I
CHRISTOPHER HALL (34:06):
Don't think you are for me,
JON DEAN (34:07):
We're repelling in some way. I dunno why this is, but Totally. So you get the same thing. Yeah,
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CHRISTOPHER HALL (34:11):
100%. And I think meeting in the jobs I've been in, the workspaces I've been in, you just meet a lot of
people. Being in musical theatre, you just meet people on jobs. You meet people at auditions all the time.
When I was in fitness, you're meeting people. Well, I was on the front of house a lot that the people on
front of house change all the time. Then I was teaching and you meet new people every day. And then in
comedy, I'm now meeting more comedians and more people all the time. So I think it is one of those
things I literally hate if, but I think that's such an annoying phrase. But when with a person, you're just
like, oh, I know you get me and I get you. It's often now when people crack a joke or someone's comedy,
I go like, oh my God, you are going to make me laugh so much, and I think I'm going to be able to make
you laugh. Well, you can have, yes, the spark or the butterflies with a romantic partner and I think the
spark or the butterflies with a friend as well. Oh
JON DEAN (35:20):
Totally. Yeah. But I feel like the friend thing, it's rarer.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (35:24):
Rarer maybe when you are,
JON DEAN (35:26):
Because there's no sexual attraction there. It's more just like, oh, we're going to be really close. I need to
know. I want to hang out with you. You're making me laugh and making you laugh. So really, I think in
adult life is when you meet people that you're like a new friend. Do you know what I mean? Yeah,
CHRISTOPHER HALL (35:41):
Definitely. Yeah. It was also harder to come by when you're a bit older.
JON DEAN (35:45):
Yeah, definitely.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (35:46):
Meeting a new friend,
JON DEAN (35:47):
Especially in London where everyone lives
CHRISTOPHER HALL (35:49):
On everyone's busy opposite side.
JON DEAN (35:50):
Everyone's busy.
CHRISTOPHER HALL (35:51):
Exactly. And opposite side. Yeah.
JON DEAN (35:53):
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Alright, well Christopher, thank you so much for speaking to us today. You are just as lovely and
hilarious in real life as I suspected you would be. So yeah, thank you so much. Thanks
CHRISTOPHER HALL (36:04):
So much for having me. This has been so much fun.