Try That in a Small Town Podcast
In 2023, Jason Aldean's groundbreaking song and video "Try That In A Small Town" resonated with a resurgence of conservative values in America. The writers of the song, Kurt, Neil, Tully, and Kelley, took the opportunity to launch the Try That In A Small Town Podcast. This platform allows them to reveal the true inspiration behind the song and discuss the importance of common-sense values. With a lineup of influential guests, the hosts will entertain you with the stories behind their music, while also addressing challenging topics affecting our communities and country.
Try That in a Small Town Podcast
From Farm Life to Fame: Gary LeVox on Rascal Flatts, Printers Alley, and Wine Ventures :: Ep 20 Try That In a Small Town Podcast
What does it take to go from farm life to the bustling city lights? Join us this week as we sit down with the incredible Gary LeVox for a heartfelt and entertaining chat about his unique journey. From sharing hilarious GPS mishaps to performing a live song, Gary brings laughter and music straight to your ears. We also talk about his sophisticated venture, LeVox Wine, where he introduces us to an exquisite selection from Pinot Noir to a unique white blend, and even gives tips on how to snag a bottle for yourself.
Step back in time with us to the early days of the Nashville music scene, where we reminisce about the gritty but vibrant days of Printers Alley. We recount our struggles to play at iconic venues, the camaraderie, and competition among musicians, and the introduction of Joe Don Rooney in 1999, who became a pivotal part of our journey. You'll hear about the formation of Rascal Flatts, the balancing act of day jobs, and the magical moment our harmonies connected, thanks to the support of key figures like Myla Mason and Mark Bright.
But that's not all! Gary shares amusing anecdotes from our early songwriting days, unexpected visits, turkey hunting adventures, and the raw realities of life on tour. We reflect on the challenges faced by new artists in the age of TikTok versus the traditional grind, highlighting personal stories from our career that emphasize the value of live audience feedback. Ending on a hopeful note, we discuss memorable collaborations, potential future reunions, and the exciting projects ahead. You won't want to miss this episode full of laughter, nostalgia, and heartfelt moments!
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I know that song. It's pretty good. Let me hear you Put it on. I really can't believe we got him off the farm tonight. Gary's usually asleep right now. Yes, I am Sing it. Well, I see a dust trail following it all, red and over. Baby, blue eyes, your head on my shoulder. Oh wait, baby, don't move right. There it is, teacher hanging off a dogwood branch. That river was cold, but we gave love a chance. Yeah, head on me. Oh, you don't look. A day over. Five scars and freedom. That sunset, a river bank, first time feeling Gary the Boss in the house. Oh, good to be here. Y'all. Try that in a small town. Try that in a small town. Podcast Begins now.
Speaker 2:Try that in a small town. What's up y'all? That was amazing. Oh, thank you, man, I'm just getting ready for whiskey jam.
Speaker 1:Big night of whiskey jam. Yeah, big night of whiskey jam. Hey, better save that voice. I know a big night of whiskey jam.
Speaker 3:Hey, you better save that voice.
Speaker 2:I know he's on radio tour folks 937 slot.
Speaker 4:Bro, we got Gary LaVoix off the farm. Yes, we did Off campus man On the cowhide table.
Speaker 6:It's awesome. How does it feel to be in the big city? How does it feel to be in the big city? You know it feels a little weird.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had to hit the GPS to figure out where 65 was. Again, I'm like, wait a minute, it really does run through here.
Speaker 6:Folks, you really don't know how hard it was to get this guy off the farm.
Speaker 3:I didn't even know they did 840. That's weird.
Speaker 2:It's big now.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, I'm off grid. I like it. This is awesome. Hey, I'm proud for you, fellas man. This is freaking awesome. Proud for you guys well, thank you. Look great, it smell incredible I mean, you know you're podcasters, you got your own cups.
Speaker 4:I mean, what are we talking about?
Speaker 6:yes, right in that cup we got to put some lavox wine in our cups right here, oh yeah hey, so we were asking about this.
Speaker 3:Give us a little heads up, what's going on so, uh, my buddy Russ Hayworth and I started this. So this is, the vineyard is in Willamette Valley, Oregon, which is the Pinot capital of the world. So Hayworth Estates and I partnered up and so we got Le Vox wine, Pinot Noir, Pinot Gris and we got a new one that just came out called Front Ports, which is a white blend which is a Pinot Gris Chardonnay Champagne, which is ridiculous. I never knew you were so sophisticated.
Speaker 4:Well, you know, what?
Speaker 6:Hang on? A minute Hang on? Where do we get this Hold?
Speaker 1:on.
Speaker 4:Hold on, we got to plug this. Where do we get this? Well, let me tell you where you get it.
Speaker 3:You can go to GaryLevoxcom and any of my social medias Instagram, whatever Just click on wine, It'll go right there.
Speaker 6:Yeah, what you got, it'll ship anywhere around the world. No, I was just going to touch on the sophisticated word.
Speaker 5:Oh, we'll go on. Before On you'd say, hey, k-lo, I've got me a wine coming out. You like wine? I said yeah, so we like red wine and everything. And I said what all kind are you going to do? And you're naming off all the things. And I said you going to do any box wine? And you said I don't know. And so I was sitting there. I said what if you had like Gary LeBox wine, it wine, it'd be amazing. And so if you want the dot-coms for any of that, I've got them For a small price.
Speaker 2:He's not kidding, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5:When we came up with Try that in Small Town it's the first thing he did is went out and got a dot-com for it. So anything that seems interesting, you know, we'll kind of get it. And then sometimes people want them, sometimes they don't.
Speaker 6:He drove up in a Bentley so he forward to buy the dot com. Yeah, I think you can be funny.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean no less than 20 bucks, did you really get the dot com La?
Speaker 5:Box, I got all versions of it.
Speaker 3:See well, that cost me. Yeah, Everything's a third.
Speaker 5:No, I did it because it'd be funny, because of what your people ever caused it. So we're trying to get Gary La Box wine but some old boys got it $2.50 a box for you.
Speaker 3:So you've been touring, been touring, been on the road. Yeah, leave for Kansas tomorrow. Oh wow, mm-hmm, wichita, it's been great.
Speaker 4:How many shows are you?
Speaker 3:doing. I probably did 35 this year.
Speaker 4:All right, so you're jumping back in.
Speaker 3:Well, that's about good it is good, right, yeah, 30's good yeah.
Speaker 4:We tell people all the time, you know it's like just like when you guys started, when we started, you're out doing 200 plus a year right grinding, yeah, man. And then you finally get to that you know spot where you can do 60 and 50. And then it's like, oh, this is a spot, yeah, this is a spot, and yeah, I think jason's probably the same way. It's like, if we can do 40, yeah, big shows, man, that's where, that's where you do it.
Speaker 2:Really cool for me and Kurt tonight. Obviously, we have so much to talk about, but Let him know, no, let him know, took us and Jason out 06, 07. Yeah, first we did. First year was like what 7 o'clock slot, yeah, we did the 20.
Speaker 2:We did four or five songs, the what seven o'clock slot. We did four or five songs the first time we played like in an arena opening up, and then the next year we did the middle or the old. It was us than you guys. We played like 45 minutes. What? Uh, I remember standing there I might have been in florida somewhere and you know we'd played our five songs. You know, and I think god I want to see like blake was maybe out doing doing the middle slot at that point.
Speaker 4:But that was when you guys were at the pinnacle, I mean, we were.
Speaker 2:I couldn't believe it. I was like yeah.
Speaker 1:You guys were firing, did you say what year was that?
Speaker 2:That was probably this was 06. It was the first time. All right, 06, 07 in that range.
Speaker 4:But we were like, my god, how do we get here? How do we get here? How do we get here? It just seemed like and it was still a ways away at that point, yeah, but you know, I remember something that you guys said, and you might have just been bs and which could be true, but it was like man, come out here, take our audience, yeah, do it steal try to steal our fans.
Speaker 4:That's and that's. We pass that on to people that play and open for us. It's like listen, that's your stage, that 20 minutes or that hour, take it. Those are your fans. Make them your fans. And I always thought that was cool that you guys kind of gave us that advice and that freedom to do that. Even though we couldn't go past a certain point.
Speaker 6:Speaking of that didn't that happen a couple of times with a couple of openers, with you guys?
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, Our old manager was pretty staunch on that. I'm like they only have two and a half feet anyway. They can't get a kick drum in here.
Speaker 1:It was funny.
Speaker 2:It was taped off for sure and we couldn't go past the white tape. So it was our first. We were scared, shitless. We were like, oh, we don't want to screw up and get kicked off, right. So I remember a couple of points. Like me and Aldine would be up there in that white tape, we'd put one toe over that white line, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Alert alert. It's like the bowling we're going to lose our lights, boys. But that was fun. We always appreciated you guys having us.
Speaker 3:Man, we loved having you.
Speaker 2:I remember very specifically you guys never treated us like that. I remember it was always very welcoming, Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Well shoot, we're all out there to try to win. It's all about them. Fans, ego's ugly, no space behind the tape for that. Well, you guys did put your toe over it.
Speaker 6:It's documented. You and I go back a long way. Yeah, buddy, 2000, almost 25 years, yep, you look fantastic, still, you do too, buddy Golf tan.
Speaker 3:Look at him, that's a love test.
Speaker 2:That's a spray tan, by the way Y'all look good too.
Speaker 5:Y'all look good. Thanks to Ali.
Speaker 6:It's not a spray tan. Yes, it is.
Speaker 3:It. Thanks to Ali. It's not a spray tan. Yes, it is. It's a spray tan.
Speaker 6:I'm going to take the $10 package for 30 minutes and the goggles. I got to see these guys firsthand from the get-go to. I remember the first time I heard you guys sing. Billy Currington came over to the house one day and this was probably in 2000.
Speaker 6:May have been a year before, I don't know, but he played me a demo because he knew I was a huge vocal group guy, I loved the harmonies and stuff. And he's like, hey, I got this demo of this new band and they're called Rascal Flats. I'm like really, and we put it on and it was praying for daylight before y'all released it I was like, oh my god, these guys are like the next coming of diamond rio.
Speaker 6:This is incredible. And then then I got to meet you and we had something in common we got to hunt together how did you guys meet?
Speaker 4:got to write together what was the hookup do you remember? I don't remember? Was it to write together? Yeah, it was the hookup. Do you remember?
Speaker 3:I don't remember, was it to write together? Yeah, it was the first time we met was we wrote? I Melt.
Speaker 6:Are you kidding? That was the first time we met. First time we met. I know we talked before then, but I guess that was the first time face-to-face. Yeah, that's a good first write it was a pretty good launch, pretty good song for a launch in a relationship. Yeah, what year? Was that that was 2001. Yeah, something like that, god damn. Yeah, didn't Lana have something to do with y'all getting that going. Yes, she did actually.
Speaker 3:Well, what's the story? You're out there shaking that five-gallon bucket with corn in there, and them turkeys are. I was like am I at home? We're at home.
Speaker 6:That's what happened. That's a fact. Yeah, no, it was late and nothing was happening. Yeah, and me and Wendell and Gary were getting ready I mean, we were getting ready to part ways and get out of there and it was about that time it was after midnight and Lana comes around the corner and didn't say a word and goes up to the mantel in the den there and lights candles on the mantel and Wendell, the mantel in the den there and lights candles on the mantel and window window was like. It was like when you light those candles up there on the mantel, sitting the moon was he just joking, or was he?
Speaker 4:like he was serious. He was dead serious, that's a great story.
Speaker 6:Wow, and I'm out was written. That's a great story. Thank you, Lana the rest was history, and so I have to thank Lana for everything in my career. Well, you're a smart man.
Speaker 2:I do we know? So, here we are, 24, 25 years later.
Speaker 6:And I got to have a front row seat to see the flats do their thing.
Speaker 4:What year did you come here? What year did you get to Nashville? I came here in 98, february of 98. And you guys were doing like Printer's Alley, right? Oh yeah, before it became Touristy Printer's Alley, it was like seedy.
Speaker 3:It was all in bricks, though, dude. It was all in bricks.
Speaker 4:That was such a great time in Nashville Gosh, such a great time in. Nashville Gosh it was good, it was like 95, 96.
Speaker 2:The first thing I did was go down to Printers. I went to Barber's and sat in and it was the old guard, like Donny Castleman and Preston Stanfill.
Speaker 3:Rusty.
Speaker 2:Danmeyer. Oh yeah, eddie Dunbar, I can't believe you don't know those names.
Speaker 6:It's amazing. I just moved to town and Eddie Dunbar.
Speaker 2:Eddie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't believe you don't know those names. It's amazing. It's a beautiful town. It's an awesome town.
Speaker 2:I didn't sit down there yet and I just moved to town. I got sitting there waiting to get called up to play or something and I tell people about that. It's such a different town now, but that's what you did.
Speaker 4:You immediately went to Printer's Alley and just tried to meet after hours. Oh yeah, pat lassiter was down there. Yeah, you know, and so was it you and jay doing that because you hadn't met joe don at that time.
Speaker 3:Right, I came here a couple times, met jay and I mean I could never get caught up at barbara's or all that, but lonnie's always had the karaoke oh yeah.
Speaker 3:So I was like shoot, I'd get in there, you know. And then so I and lonnie said man, you want, you know, I'd like to hire you. And that was my first time in town. I said, man, I don't even live here, but I'd love to. What? Do I just be a karaoke singer, I don't know. So anyway, I go back and literally when I moved here in 98, I'd go to barbara's, put my name on the list, fiddle, put my name on the list. It wouldn't get called, called up. Nobody would call you up because everybody had their friends. Preston Ruston, yeah, right, right, I'm like dude, I just got here. I've been here four hours. Yeah, I have a $400 tab. I have no job, no money.
Speaker 3:I'm going to have to run out of here or beat this dude to death because he you know I used to tell people that like literally no money, no, none.
Speaker 2:I remember walking down those streets leaving Barbara's at 3 in the morning or 2 in the morning, like what the hell am I going to do? I know I just played one Keith Whitley song. Waited five hours. Don't close your eyes, I get shit from that song tonight. Right, you know I mean, but anyway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, and then when Jay and I got offered the gig to play, like Mondays, that Fiddlin' Steel Monday, oh you got the house gig on Monday.
Speaker 4:Big banger, big banger Monday.
Speaker 2:Monday, because it was always crazy down there on Mondays at that point.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was a little Monday. Oh yeah, there was nothing down there off the chain, $3 you're looking at. Thank God for those cops that would walk through it, because they'd pop in and be like, oh, we got somebody Wouldn't hear anything, maybe like, no, we're just talking. Okay all right and we just worked off tips only. True story. We played from nine to three. Looked in that tip jar one night and there was 27 cents in there.
Speaker 2:See 20 in there. I told Kurt I was so embarrassed I was in that damn Tootsie's window. Some Sundays back in the day in the mid-90s I played a 10-hour shift. I played every song $16. Yeah For you or to split. Yeah right?
Speaker 4:No, I took $16 home for myself. You got $16 for yourself. I took $16 home. He is a bragger, yeah.
Speaker 2:But those are the days when nothing happened on the other side of Broadway.
Speaker 4:Oh, it was closed down. There was like a wheel.
Speaker 2:Remember that there was a wheel and no one even it was like don't go on that side of the street. Now they're making bank down there as a player.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, yeah, when's Gary, the box is open? No.
Speaker 3:I'm staying all out of that that deal. I can't compete with the Aldeans and the Old Reds and the Lukes.
Speaker 6:It's never too late.
Speaker 3:That's right, there might be a cubicle over there.
Speaker 2:Maybe a place in the alley would be fitting.
Speaker 3:I know it. And then knock the fiddle down to put up a taco stand. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4:Oh, they did, there's a taco stand.
Speaker 3:I got threw up. You'd go there and you'd see Hank Cochran and Willie Nelson and just everybody that walked those streets, and now you knocked all that history down to put a taco stand in there. What a world. That's no. No, that's no problem, that's a bad thing. That's not right. You can't do that. Buy some tacos somewhere else, get it off the bricks.
Speaker 6:So, when did Joe Don enter the picture?
Speaker 3:You know probably well, it was 99, because we had a. The stage was so small to fill and steal that Jay would set his little keyboard up at the side of the drum machine, or I mean beside the cigarette machine.
Speaker 3:There was a thing, there were cigarette machines back in the day and, uh, there was no vape or anything, you just had to pull it and it would come out. And so jay would sit there and had a little drum track, you know, and we had a guitar player that come in sometimes and play with us, and then he had got a gig, I think, with Michael Peterson, and Jay had got the gig with Shelly Wright.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3:And Jay had hired Joe Dawn to play acoustic for Shelly and he had told me about Joe Dawn and singing High Harmony and being a great guitar player and all that. And then I get that I show up with a fit Because I mean, I was just killing myself. I was building swimming pools during the day, I was playing there 9 to 3. And then I'd go throw the Tennessean after that.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that Really.
Speaker 3:Dead sober. Sorry everybody on my route I never hit a porch Broke my window, there was nothing.
Speaker 5:That's funny.
Speaker 3:I'm a 30-year-old favor boy. Yes, this is awesome.
Speaker 4:Hey, you did, drew it up.
Speaker 5:Is that where your front porch wine idea came from?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Well, I never even hit one, so no, no, it'd have been like sidewalk wine. Should would have been called but anyway so we, our guitar player, didn't show up and uh, they called uh, joe don. I walk in. Joe don's back there tuning up and I was like dude, who is this? I didn't want to be there. I'm sunburnt from building pools.
Speaker 2:I'm like I have to be here.
Speaker 3:My skin hurts and then I have to go throw the freaking newspaper out here. My, my confidence is not high guys. This is not how it's supposed to go yeah little heads up would have been nice, you know.
Speaker 3:So he was like that's the guy I was telling you about, jodan plays with shirley. And I was like, oh okay, great. So I was not even in a good mood and preston, uh, stanfield preston was playing drums and he's like what? Oh okay, great. So I was not even in a good mood and Preston, stanfield Preston was playing drums and he's like what song are you going to start with? I was like I don't care. And it was Church on the Carmel River yeah, that's right. And they kicked it off. I was like, okay, well, he knows the intro. And we got to that.
Speaker 3:Oh, didn't know that flowed out Before I could go so slow. We hit that harmony thing and I went oh, oh and Tourette's and I just had, and I was like what was that?
Speaker 4:I was like, so you really did Feel it from the beginning. It was like, oh, this is cool as shit.
Speaker 3:The first chorus Of that song. Yeah, we didn't really talk before then, you know Wow.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. That's a very. It's a crazy story. That's how it always happens Not to go out. But when me, him and Rich met same thing. We were playing a bar. Remember Kickers in Clarksville oh yeah, kickers Late 90s or something Same thing. We had never played. I'd never played with Rich before and we kicked into, like you know, tisha Yearwood's song and I was like damn Rich used to play with us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, down there isn't that crazy, I didn't know that, rich. Redman, yeah, rich did, and Dave played with Toby oh, that's right.
Speaker 4:What's Dave's last name? I can't remember. I can't remember. I can't either, sorry.
Speaker 2:Dave. Sorry, dave. You know, dave, bro, you know who you are. Those stories in town are cool, though, like how you know or something, just you know God thing comes in and it lines up for whatever reason. Then you're stuck together for 20 years.
Speaker 4:Okay. So give us the story there of you guys. Okay, you've got something. You hey, let's form a band, let's do this. And then were you doing showcases, or did somebody see you? How did Rascal Flatts come to be?
Speaker 3:So it kind of came like this. It kind of the cliff note of it is Jay and Joe Don were playing with Shelly Wright, so that was kind of their thing. I came here for a solo gig, you know. So I was working with there was an artist named Myla Mason, yeah, and so Myla was helping me. She was like you have one of the greatest voices that I've ever heard. She's like I would do anything to help you. And I was like, okay, let's do it. So she took me to Blake Nevis, you know, who managed Keith Whitley and all that, and so she was helping me find songs. And so we just started doing that.
Speaker 3:And then, uh, I had signed a uh, uh development deal with, uh, with sony tree, with mark bright and marty williams. And then jay was like, hey, ma'am, we should, uh, we should try to do this duo thing. And I'm like what, we never talked about a duo thing. I was like you're not playing with shelllly and you know all that. So I'm like all right. So I tell Mark and Marty, we go over there, we sing. He was like, all right, bring your cousin in, we'll sing, we sang something. And he was like awesome, two weeks later, you know we get Joe Don. He was like well, how many more are you Are you bringing in? I think this you know, church of the Camel Road or whatever. So that's where that happened and we got. Praying for Daylight was actually on hold for Blackhawk, because Mark Bright was producing Blackhawk at the time. He was like.
Speaker 3:I don't think they're getting back together, but if they do, we'll have to worry about that later, because I think the song was perfect for you guys. So we did Praying for Daylight Long, slow, beautiful Dance from time to time. That was our three-song demo, and then you know the rest is after that, it's kind of you.
Speaker 2:Know it's funny. I heard about you guys, so what year?
Speaker 3:was that when you cut Praying for Daylight. The first album came out June 7, 2000.
Speaker 2:Okay. So I was in a rock band at that point and Mark was kind of helping us a little bit and he said man, you got to hear this. I remember hearing about you guys. Oh yeah, you know, I was like yeah sure you know, another, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm a rock band, I don't give a shit, right?
Speaker 3:yeah, no, and there was you guys. He's back here playing that satan music. I'll be worshiping that devil look at his arm look at him.
Speaker 2:Greg mccarn would not be happy.
Speaker 4:Oh my god, tell them what McCarn said. This is great During our Rush Low.
Speaker 2:A little story. So, these guys were huge and we were in a band that Rainey Goodman had signed called Rush Low, and we're like the stepchildren because you guys were so big, and we're in there and we're trying to carve out some sort of space and Greg McCarn, Greg, I love you and Greg McCarn, Greg, I love you. But you know this is true.
Speaker 4:So this is 2002, 2003, somewhere in that area, somewhere in that spot and Greg was doing what was his title?
Speaker 2:He was doing some advising or styling or whatever. And so we went to the label for a meeting and he looks at me and he goes I have to cover those arms up, what do you mean? And I had like one tattoo at that point. You know it's all kind of forward and look at it today like, you know people, you know their necks covered.
Speaker 2:So I was ahead of my time trendsetter but I remember what's great the year that we got signed over there we went to like the I want to say the CMA watch party was there and I can't remember what song you guys played, but I remember Renee Lehman. The label was there, everybody was watching the television and you guys it might have been one of your first CMA performances it was a big performance and I can't remember what song it was Moving On. Maybe Could have been song it was Moving on, maybe Could have been, but it was big and I remember being there thinking God, how did he get there? You know how did he get there, but what a fun time reminiscing about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:You know, yeah, it's funny, like back in the day when I'd hear you on the radio. And he has such an amazing voice he always has and just pops off the radio and off the mic and he did so many tricks with it and just moves that people can't really make and in my mind I'd never met you before I thought you're you know. It's kind of I didn't know you were a country guy.
Speaker 5:Oh right, oh yeah I just thought you were a country guy. Oh right, oh yeah, I just thought you were a little more poppy and everything you can say you was a boy, man Just let it go K-Lo.
Speaker 5:You'll feel better about it. So, anyways, we wrote one time, and that's when you get to know somebody, and remember, you came to my little country farmhouse over there on Paisley's farm and you walked in and I don't know if I was expecting you to be wearing but it was completely different. Like you came in, you had on this hunt.
Speaker 2:Just say it. You're really beating around the bush. You thought he was a liberal. Hang on now. You thought he was a liberal.
Speaker 3:That's what he wants to say. Gary, I thought you were going to walk in with parachute pants. Gary.
Speaker 5:I didn't even say liberal. Anyway, you came in y'all in everything camo, you had two pounds of deer jerky that you'd made yourself and I said, do you like deer jerky? Had a big dip of Copenhagen in. I'm like, okay, I have totally misread this guy Completely, you know, but just the coolest thing ever. And I just didn't think you were a country guy and sure enough.
Speaker 6:Tell him about that time that he came over to your house to write, but he went over to Paisley's house.
Speaker 5:Sorry, I don't remember oh.
Speaker 3:I do. Oh yeah, he remembers.
Speaker 5:No, tell him what happened, he remembers.
Speaker 3:Well, I was getting directions to your house, you know, because I was reading them and whatever, and I pulled in. I'm like daggone Kalo's banging.
Speaker 4:I'm like, wow, what has this guy written? Let's go.
Speaker 3:I'm like I know he's written a bunch of Paisley hits, but this circle Halo is killing it. I get up there, I go, I knock on the door. You know I forgot about the door and I'm like wow, I got my little backpack. My number two pencil is sharp.
Speaker 1:I'm like, yeah, I'm going to get me one of these houses and all of a sudden this little guy comes over.
Speaker 3:He's like can I help you? I got it, kalo, here to write and he was like, oh, come on in and I go. Okay, great, and I'm like this is the right place. And then all of a sudden he goes Brad, I'm like Brad, is that Kalo's partner?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm thinking we were right with.
Speaker 5:Ashley, weren't we when I don't know about him. Yeah, ashley was over there.
Speaker 3:Ashley Gourley, yeah it was me, you and Ashley. Gourley and he goes Brad, and I'm like Brad, see, I'm sitting here because it pays the other staff. So I'm like what are you doing?
Speaker 1:here. I'm like what are you doing here? He's like this is my house.
Speaker 3:I'm like this isn't K-Law's house. Where is everybody? I'm so confused because I drove by your house.
Speaker 4:I guess to go back there.
Speaker 5:That's funny.
Speaker 3:I forgot about that he was like do you want coffee? I was like yeah, I want coffee. Yeah, come on, gary, what are you doing here? That's funny. I was like that's weird. I didn't think I'd wake up this morning and Gary LaVox would be standing here. And I said well, I didn't think I'd be standing in Brad's house, in your house looking for Caleb.
Speaker 6:You never know. I actually didn't know. You wrote with other writers besides me.
Speaker 3:I was kind of pissed. That was early on. That was early on. Don't even try that.
Speaker 1:Try that in a small town yeah.
Speaker 3:They tell you that story. Okay, oh here we go, we're turkey hunting. Thrash was like I'll play you something. Go on, we're turkey camp, you know.
Speaker 1:Plays that.
Speaker 3:I'm like I just put my hand on the gun. I said I'm like I just put my hand on the gun. I said I'm cutting that. I'm cutting that sucker. I'm like. I'm like let's go he goes, no, no no, you can't. Aldine, already cut it. I was playing. Did you ever play me anything I can't cut. Are you kidding me, dude?
Speaker 2:you called me I was out walking you and Thrasher were hanging out at your barn. I'm outside, my phone rings. It's you. I'm like Gary. You're like that fucking that damn song. I'm like Neil Gary. How come Gary's yelling at me?
Speaker 3:You bunch of Indian givers, what are you doing? We're just kidding. Yeah, yeah, here to Indian givers. What are you doing?
Speaker 2:We're just kidding.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, here, listen to this that you can't have. Listen to that that you can't have.
Speaker 6:We always play each other's songs. You play me stuff you do, and I get pissed because.
Speaker 1:I wasn't writing on it.
Speaker 3:You always play me hits no, no, so yours counts different than mine does. I just wanted your approval when I played. You can't.
Speaker 2:Hey, man, that's cool, though. Every night I mean at least one time per run your name comes up Because one of Al Dean's, he, loves your voice we all do but as a singer he always says, man, I've stole some cool shit from Gary, try to.
Speaker 5:He's always wanted.
Speaker 2:He's always loved that range. He talks about it all the time. It's a big. I've stole a lot of shit from Gary.
Speaker 3:Whatever, I stole a lot of stuff out of Jason's pool.
Speaker 2:It's fun.
Speaker 3:That's why it was so fun being out there too.
Speaker 2:At that point in the early days learning as we go, really so fun. So fun looking back on it.
Speaker 3:Try it and see what works and what don't. You learn quick what happens you better learn and playing bars. You know it's the biggest. That's the best education you can get.
Speaker 4:We talk about this all the time, about people that came up like in the era that we did. That's how you had to learn. Yeah, you had to learn by being in the bars, and you learned how to perform to one person or 20, you know, and it wasn't as easy, that's right. Yeah, you had to learn by being in the bars and you learned how to perform to one person or 20, you know, and it wasn't as easy, that's right yeah, you know, and you had to earn, yeah, every minute of that and we talk about it all the time.
Speaker 2:How not? I'm not bashing the new artists today, but most of them haven't put that time in and you can tell when they get up there. Yeah, they never suffer through five sets with no one there, or or when it's packed or suffer through any sets, right or or the worst thing of all a showcase well, and.
Speaker 4:But it's true and it's like and this isn't, it's just a different time. So if you become popular via tiktok or whatever, that's awesome, that's a great path, but you just didn't do that in the way that we're accustomed to seeing it done and learning that way.
Speaker 3:Well, and you know what the other thing, too, is. I think if you haven't failed on that circuit, you know what I'm saying, Because it's what it takes. It takes a few boos or people getting up and going oh, they're leaving what do I need to do? Give me just one more last minute you know, that kind of thing.
Speaker 3:But now people, they go tiktok to this, to a showcase, and there's so much pressure on them because they've never failed. You know what I'm saying. They've edited how they wanted to edit, so you see what they've wanted you to see. They've never been in front of people failing or winning. That's a great point I never thought about. I like that. I got a book coming, wanted you to see, but they've never been in front of people failing, you know, or winning.
Speaker 3:You know, that's the point I've never thought about like that well I got a book coming out okay, so it's a book in one.
Speaker 2:It's probably true.
Speaker 2:It comes with a bottle of even after you pay those dues of before you move to nashville and you play in the bars and, like we all did, like wherever we're from the hometown, you get to nashville, you do Printer's Alley, you do that, you get your deal and then the hard work starts again. Because even when Aldean's first record came out and we were on tour with you guys, we were doing a fill-in date at Coyote Joe's somewhere in Charlotte and I remember we got like an hour to play. We hopped up there on the house band's gear and I remember we remember busting an Amarillo sky this is, like, you know, a year before the album came out or something and the dance floor empties, you know, packed house, and we're up there playing like it's. You know, like we're in a stadium, of course, yeah, and we're playing Amarillo sky, playing Emerald Sky, and right in the middle of second chorus this guy walks up to the front of the stage and just plays something good.
Speaker 2:Just gives us the mean one. The greatest and we're like we just kept. But you need that, yeah, you need it. And I don't think enough of the young artists have that where it's like, okay, you got to get through it. Well, and then imagine gotta, you, gotta keep, you, gotta get through it. You know.
Speaker 3:Well, and then you know, imagine doing that in your face, but not. They can read one thing on there and go really and start responding. You know what I'm saying? Well, just have somebody do it in your face and you go okay, you know, hit me, switch up songs. You know you make it. Yeah.
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Speaker 4:I feel like we're at the Bluebird and we're just like you know, we can't talk and we're like it's about this big.
Speaker 2:There's nothing like that going on anywhere else right now, Two of the best singers we've got, I mean Neil. He's better than you, but you know that. But you're pretty good. You're pretty good, Neil, but this is Gear of the Box.
Speaker 4:Is there a story behind that? Trust me, I know that's a great story, amazing.
Speaker 3:That was amazing. It's a great story behind it. Take me there, well, take me there. Yeah, well, I'd like to Take him there. Yeah, thr and Wendell and Chesney wrote it Hacks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was a fluke kind of a thing.
Speaker 6:That was Chesney's idea, because he called me one night and he said hey, man, I got an idea for a song and I got the title and the first line and he said there's a place in your heart. Nobody's been Take me there and I went ooh, he said there's a place in your heart.
Speaker 4:Nobody's been Take me there and I went, ooh yeah ooh.
Speaker 6:So we got with him and wrote it, but by the time it kind of sat there for a while, like songs do, and it's like by the time we got around to demo it and everything, chesney was already done with his record. So you know who I thought of right off the bat.
Speaker 1:Like they say in the Grinch another man's trash is another man's poop.
Speaker 6:And man, the first time I heard it, when I heard it, when they cut it before they put it out, because I think it was on the Steel Feels Good record, yeah, and they put it, it's like it was the first single. And man, I heard that and I was like, oh my.
Speaker 4:God it's a hammer, it's great. God it's a hammer it's.
Speaker 2:It's great. I love that found the right home.
Speaker 3:It did I still love to sing it too, man, it's just, it's got the. It makes you just want to. You know, there's some, you know there's some songs you do and you're just like oh, you're the intro and you're just like but that's when that starts. That, yeah, man, you're like oh, that's good.
Speaker 6:I owe half. I owe it leak well, probably more than half of my Tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, tum tum, tum, tum, tum tum tum tum, tum, Tum, tum, tum, tum, tum, Tum tum tum, tum, tum. You had to ask me that I did what's your favorite, Well. Fast Cars and Freedom was such a big song. Yeah, and it still is. I mean, it's like a standard thing. I hear it all the time.
Speaker 1:I heard it at TSC yesterday.
Speaker 6:Yeah, really, tractor Supply. I walked in. Yeah, that's amazing, and me and Gary and Wendell wrote that one and that's why it's so special.
Speaker 3:And I melt, I melt too. That was the first one, and it's so funny how many people still request, like before the show they should do a meet, greet, a VIP thing and everybody would go.
Speaker 1:I'm held, Like I'm held.
Speaker 6:People don't understand man. The verses are like way down here, like two octaves almost. It's not two octaves, but it's an octave, but it's way down the verse when you light those candles and then the chorus is ah man, it's amazing.
Speaker 3:You know I was going to ask you before you got here Not to back you up. I would say probably my favorite song that we've ever written together probably means the most is Probably Changed. Probably Changed, Yep.
Speaker 6:I knew you were going to say that Really. Yeah, we wrote that at the farm, at Freedom Farms. See my hat, see Gary's hat. Yes, you can get those online.
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Speaker 6:That song right there came from when Allie, my oldest daughter, got baptized in the Gulf of Mexico. That's where that song started. I came up with the first two lines.
Speaker 4:You got baptized in the.
Speaker 6:Gulf of Mexico. Wow, standing there on the beach With a margarita.
Speaker 3:It was weird.
Speaker 1:I'm ready. Lord, she went down. She went down. I think. I see God, the cup went up.
Speaker 6:That's not true. Hold this.
Speaker 1:Pastor.
Speaker 5:Is that you, Jesus?
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I'll tell you what that was so funny Knowing you guys, Jesus, oh, that's pretty good. Oh, my God, I'll tell you what, though, it's so funny Knowing you guys for so long. When my son was younger, we'd always fly in a demo drive up and go skiing in a steamboat Breckenridge and it'd be a good three-hour drive or whatever. And from when he was like six and seven on, life is a Highway on repeat. Yeah, I'm sorry 70 West, the whole way, I'm like Keller one more time, dad, I'm like okay.
Speaker 4:Okay, whose idea was it to cut that song? Because some people might not know that's a cover. So how did that come up? John Lasseter, good call.
Speaker 3:John Lasseter, the head of Pixar, to a show you know because we were on Disney. You know Lear Street. So Lasseter came to a show which you know. John Lasseter who wrote Toy Story, finding Nemo, the Incredibles, it goes on and on. He's rich, yeah, he has a lot of money, he has a big house yeah, he does, and wine and wine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, he does, and wine and wine, yeah, and speaking of wine get your Gary LaVox wine GaryLavoxcom yeah, and get a matching hat with it yeah, we have them two color per bottle. But you know what's cool. So we go to the show and you know he wears John would wear these shirts with all the stuff on there with Woody, and you know he's like a big kid. He's got these little index cards and he's like I got this idea for this movie. The cars are the actual people in the movie. We're like, alright, he's scrolling down through there and you see Lightning McQueen come out of the back of the semi.
Speaker 3:He was like do you guys know the song Life's a Highway? We're like, yeah, you mean like Life's a Highway, I'm gonna write it all night long. I go, yeah, and he goes do you know the whole thing? And I go is there more to it than that? I didn't know there was verses to it, that's all I knew. And I'm like he goes, yeah, it's a whole song. And I go, really, and I go well, I think it'd be an awesome place to do that song, right there coming out of the thing. I'm like, okay, it was. Then I got in the studio and I'm like what do these words mean? Where was Tom Cochran on Was he on Acid.
Speaker 4:So was it going to be just? A soundtrack song? Or did you guys think, hey, this is going to be part of our, or a single? Did you have that feeling?
Speaker 3:No, Okay, it for the movie. It was the first time we worked with Dan Huff, really, yeah, that's when Dan came in, it was the first thing he produced on us was that, and then it became it was kind of a landing moment of Dan's badass. Huge yeah.
Speaker 6:All those kids. They think that was a new song and it was y'all's song.
Speaker 2:I didn't know my son Rascal Flatts he's. When I say on repeat, I, but Flats like he's. I mean, when I say on repeat, I mean we had to stop him. I said, I know, those guys I can't take anymore. Oh yeah, I get it, I love them.
Speaker 3:I can't take anymore, but I will put you up for an adoption. It's been 10 times in a row, yeah.
Speaker 2:You will be adopted. We are high altitude and have a good reason, but no, it was what a I mean seriously, it is like your song.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Well, and people, it's so weird. They're like my son thinks you're Lightning McQueen. That's why I sign more Lightning McQueen stuff. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's just amazing. Same thing he had the whole. He was playing it on repeat on his Cars CD player. Oh yeah, so a good call on that and doing that man. No kidding man, biggest one ever.
Speaker 5:Oh, yeah, well, and talking about timeless classic songs, Ticks.
Speaker 2:Is that your list of timeless?
Speaker 5:classics.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Ticks on the table Pass that to Gary.
Speaker 5:This is something Gary and I wrote, oh wow.
Speaker 4:Can I peek? Let's see if he remembers it. He doesn't. He passed me. Do you need my readers, do you?
Speaker 5:remember that? Oh Caleb, what did he pull out? What is it? I'm just telling you. Yeah, at the time it never got recorded. Didn't someone record this? Yeah, it was a different version.
Speaker 3:Remember, we called each other. We were like can you believe this crap?
Speaker 5:Yeah, because our publisher was sitting there saying y'all can't put this out, you can't record it and everything.
Speaker 2:I had no idea. This story takes ticks.
Speaker 5:Well, because it's called Corn Star I know the song. I know the song.
Speaker 3:I know but this is a different song.
Speaker 4:Craig Morgan came out with one after ours. Oh, completely different song Corn Star yeah, and we were so irritated. He had that brilliant idea too. Yeah, it was so great, and it was shortly after we wrote it.
Speaker 5:Very yeah, Probably short, after you wrote it Either.
Speaker 3:Corn Star or something, and we were like Well, I want to hear this version now.
Speaker 2:Can you play that version? I couldn't.
Speaker 5:It's amazing. And as soon as that rooster crows she's slipping on her clothes, ties her hair up in a bow. She's awake and the whole town knows she's in that good dirt walking. She's got her iPod rocking, got all those old boys gawking, caught behind those tractors honking, going to be a traffic jam on 68 again. They're rubbernecking through that four-board fence. Of course she's never made a movie, never been in a magazine, but she's a three-year raining, hay-bailing county fair queen. All the farmer's daughters hate her. All the farm boys want to date her. They try to catch a peek when she comes out of that barn. She's a hate her.
Speaker 1:All the farm boys want to date her.
Speaker 5:They try to catch a peek when she comes out of that barn.
Speaker 6:She's a corn star. Oh my God, oh my God, smash, smash boys.
Speaker 4:I feel like it's better as a written poem.
Speaker 5:Easy money.
Speaker 2:Oh wait, the bridge.
Speaker 5:Continue on, tully. I'm still in love with it.
Speaker 2:Caleb the bridge is amazing. Yeah, I'm still in love with it, caleb. The bridge is amazing. Yeah, she's hot, so hot. She just thinks it's from the sun, but oh, oh no, they hate why they're pulling up the river on the shoulder, thinks some boy just told her he's her biggest fan. But she don't understand that she's a corn star.
Speaker 5:That she's a corn star.
Speaker 4:Hey, you know what One man's trash, that's another man's potpourri.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ. This needs to go up in our office.
Speaker 5:I feel like it does I remember you talking about this title.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5:I don't even know where we go from there.
Speaker 6:I was thinking about that when you hear a title like that, you're like hmm, should we?
Speaker 5:write that. Hmm, should we write that? And then Ashley Gorley, he's thinking the same thing, like after we got it done and we're going to demo it and everything. And he's like man, I don't know, he goes, I don't know. I said, dude, it's right. I said we wrote it right, it's right for the idea. I said somebody's going to write it. I said I guarantee you somebody's. I don't know if I feel good about it. He goes, how's Gary feel? I said I don't know. I said I think he loves it. And then it just kind of went away. Yeah.
Speaker 5:And then six months later, here it come, hear it on the radio Craig Morgan Damn it. So let me ask you this Hold on this y'all.
Speaker 3:She ain't done nothing wrong. Can't call that girl a hoe. No, that's what she's using when she's working in them rows oh it rhymes, it rhymes, holy shit.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, shh.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Eminem ain't the only one that can do this. Go on, Gary. Overalls may be a little tight, but her folks raised her right. That's all that she'll be showing until her wedding night. Oh my gosh, never been to Hollywood, never left that little town. Oh, but can she draw a crowd? She's a corn star. Yes, she is.
Speaker 6:Yes. It ain't easy, no it ain't easy, it ain't no hobby is it?
Speaker 1:K-Lo.
Speaker 3:No, she ain't no hoe that's just what she's using when she's turning up them roads.
Speaker 2:I remember Craig Morgan's version. It wasn't similar at all, was it? Was that like a temper? Same premise, but you know, but not as good.
Speaker 3:I don't remember it wasn't close. No, couldn't have been as good. I don't remember it was not close.
Speaker 6:No, couldn't have been as good.
Speaker 5:I think we remember just being irritated because we had it first and it's kind of the thing like when you come up with ideas, regardless of what it is, it's out in the universe and once somebody thinks of something, somebody's going to grab it and as just a writer and not an artist, you're like We've got to cut it as soon as possible because somebody else is thinking of it right now, like ticks Exactly. Someone was going to write ticks. Yeah, you wrote it Again, not my idea, but I was glad I was on it.
Speaker 4:I was on it.
Speaker 2:I wish I was on it too, Kevin. I wish I was on it. I make fun of it, but I still want to be on it.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you a funny story about ticks. What about ticks? I'll tell you a funny story about ticks. We're at the Grammys. We're nominated. We're at the Grammys, sitting in there this was 06, I think what Hurts the Most was out. We had outsold everybody in the whole entire world that put a record out. Any genre of music would have. They had one country performance on the Grammys. We're like that'll be what Hurts the Most Nope Grammys. And we're like that'll be what hurts the most Nope.
Speaker 5:Brad.
Speaker 3:Paisley and tits. We're sitting there going. Man. We outsold everybody in this whole entire. I'd like to check you. We didn't get a performance. We're like Brad, I hope you get tits and tiggers. Jokic, I hope you get all of it, yeah the Grammys are funny like that I didn't know that I love it.
Speaker 4:I didn't know that it's kind of like Morgan Wallen can't seem to get any award now.
Speaker 6:I know he cannot. Yeah, it's unbelievable, and this guy is so unfair man.
Speaker 4:It is so unfair and he is outselling everybody. He does five nights at the stadium.
Speaker 2:It should be entertainer of the year. Entertainer of the Year Shouldn't even be a question. Entertainer of the Year? No, it shouldn't be. It comes down to this. We all talk about it. You don't argue with stadiums. You don't argue with selling out three nights in football stadiums. Even Aldisa that's his award right now.
Speaker 3:You know how the show business thing goes To me just being an honest person. If you've got the biggest single, you should win single of the year. If you've sold more albums than everybody, you should win album of the year. If you've outsold you know everybody, you can't give that to Loretta Lynn. No, you know what I'm saying, because there was one year we were over there that she won female vocalist and she hadn't had an album out.
Speaker 4:And you know we all love loretta absolutely, you know. But you know it's, you know people don't understand and it kind of you pull them back the curtain a little. But it's like in anything where there's money to be made or power to be had, there's politics at play and you know people think that the award goes to the most deserving and that's just not how it is. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is.
Speaker 3:There's no business like show business.
Speaker 2:If Cornstar were to come out, think of the walls that would have knocked down. That's what we are, we're wall knockers.
Speaker 5:We've been called worse.
Speaker 3:Kayla and I are going to sign this. We'll get this to GaryLevoxcom with the mind and the hat.
Speaker 6:Oh hell. Y'all should freaking autograph that lyric oh, definitely We'll get a handwritten one.
Speaker 3:I'll dig up the handwritten one. Try that in a small town podcast. You want to sign it? We can.
Speaker 5:I can find the old handwritten one. It's somewhere. You know where it is.
Speaker 4:Gary, everybody knows you're an amazing singer. You've been recognized for that. But tell me this Collaboration-wise who was the best artist that you collabed with that? You were like damn, this is badass.
Speaker 3:You know, we've just been fortunate enough to sing with a bunch of greats. It would be hard to pick, but every time you can Like. The Lionel Richie thing was great, yeah, dancing on the Ceiling, then us and Reba and then gosh. I don't know we got this. I don't know. We wrote a song with Michael Bolton that was on his record and that dude's face off Very cool. Anytime I sing with Neil and K-Lo, it's always.
Speaker 5:Obviously that goes out to Sanjay.
Speaker 3:Thank you, gary, you as well, all us little corn stars out there just trying to make it Corn star publishing you as well All us little corn stars.
Speaker 2:Cornstar Publishing.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 2:Cornstar.
Speaker 6:Publishing. You laugh, now I'm not laughing.
Speaker 2:Laugh. Now I'm thinking how to make money off this Kalo get that com real quick you got it.
Speaker 5:Rachel, are you on that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, rachel.
Speaker 5:Cornstarcom.
Speaker 6:Is there any chance of the flats I mean, you know?
Speaker 4:is it like the eagles when hell freezes over?
Speaker 3:the stars lining up again, I mean you know god's in charge of them, stars, but you know, I, I mean, yeah, I mean I never say never yeah, yeah, never say never, never say, never, yeah.
Speaker 2:Never say never.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So you know, I don't know, jay's kind of doing his thing, joe's getting all his stuff together. And you know, who knows, 25 could be different, I don't know.
Speaker 4:I'm sure there will be a lot of people in line for that, including me, oh we're going, if it ever happens, we are going, yeah, yeah because I write for Jay over at Red Street with Kelly King.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've been over there for years.
Speaker 5:And he loves them. He's doing the label and the publishing and everything he's always had that business mind.
Speaker 3:He's kind of meant for it, yeah.
Speaker 5:He loves it and I mean I guess they have an HR department, but you know. But anyway he's great Is he in charge of us.
Speaker 3:But no, he's doing amazing over there, red Street, dan Crockett Dan's a good dude too. Yeah, he's a great guy, dan's a good dude. Such a great team over there.
Speaker 5:Yeah he's got a good setup.
Speaker 4:Hey, Gary, we were talking before we came on. You were mentioning Hold the Umbrella. Tell us what that's about.
Speaker 3:You know, hold the Umbrella is a song that Thrash wrote, gosh. I don't know when you pitched it originally to us, but I loved it. Sometimes the songs they don't. You know, just there's a time and place for them, and now is the time. So Mickey Jack produced. I don't know, just there's a time and place for them, and now is the time. So Mickey Jack produced. I don't know who'd you write.
Speaker 6:I wrote it with Mickey Jack Cones and Tony Martin.
Speaker 4:Oh, so y'all didn't write it together. No.
Speaker 6:Something I pitched to them. That song's probably 10 years old, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I never let it go.
Speaker 6:I always had. We had was more. It was more kind of country, and right now I mean it wasn't country, but it had a little jamaican feel, but nothing like the record that mickey jack and gary cut and who's the other guy? Rudy perez, yeah, and they just took it to another level and put this latin feel to it and and so that's something that's coming out, yeah yeah, that's gonna be either.
Speaker 3:I don't know. We're working on it now. It'll either be out this year before the chart freezes, or it'll be out first of next year, but it's going to be a whole. There's going to be some really big Latin artists on it. Yeah, I love it, and so it's time Now it's time. So it'll be out in 25 for sure.
Speaker 5:Awesome and Gary, that's on Big Machine right. Scott Borchetta and our boy Clay Honeycutt over there. Yeah, that's good Old boy. Cut no pressure, clay, he loves some music. No pressure, no pressure. Make this happen, come on yeah.
Speaker 3:And there's another one too that may come out next year. But me and Thrash and Lee Miller wrote called she Stayed Anyway, that we cut. That it's really really that it's really really it's a good one. Anybody that's been in a relationship. You know, because she stayed anyway, knowing all the crap that she's going to have to go through, you know she could have done better and should have left.
Speaker 4:Sounds a little too close to home A little too close to home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we stay here, yeah.
Speaker 6:Well, I've had a great career with these guys, with you, yep, you're mine. And I hope it continues, because you still sing your rear off.
Speaker 3:Thank you, buddy, yeah it's kind of crazy how your voice sounds amazing.
Speaker 2:So it's top of the game you still give me an incentive to write.
Speaker 6:You still give me the inspiration to write and I think we should make a toast to Gary coming out. We got him off the farm tonight which was a rarity I could be bush hogging, but never.
Speaker 3:Thanks, gary, we sincerely appreciate you. My friend, here's a toast to you.
Speaker 6:I love each and every one of you. Come on, man. Love you, brother, Cheers cheers.
Speaker 1:Love you too.
Speaker 4:Cheers. Love you, Gary LaVox.
Speaker 6:Let's go. Well, guys, that was an eventful episode right there. That was a lot of fun. That guy is ridiculously funny, entertaining, great friend.
Speaker 2:And one of the greatest singers in our genre.
Speaker 5:The greatest.
Speaker 2:It's amazing, and he sounds as great today as he ever did.
Speaker 5:And I'm excited about the new stuff.
Speaker 4:God dang, he's singing better than ever. Sometimes you get older and sometimes people's voices get a little bit weaker. It's like man he's crushing it, I know.
Speaker 6:I would have thought by now it would have been over. He'd be singing baritone in some quartet somewhere He'd lost his high end. But it seems like he sings higher now for some reason.
Speaker 5:And better and smoother and pure.
Speaker 6:Oh, he's still here.
Speaker 3:Guys, listen, I totally agree. I wanted to leave, but you know I couldn't because I might be just as good as you guys are saying. Don't let me interrupt, though, keep going. Oh my God.
Speaker 5:So we said everything you wanted us to.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:You guys got the paper over there. It's a good recap.
Speaker 4:We got the sheet and the fee, your fee.
Speaker 3:Okay, got the fee down there. Yeah, yeah Easy, more than I thought.
Speaker 4:We're going to need an extra sponsor this week. We love us some Levox.
Speaker 6:Absolutely.
Speaker 4:Hey, we're going to have to have him on again, but please do this. We can make that work. Hey guys, if you're watching on YouTube, you got to like, you got to subscribe.
Speaker 3:Come on, guys, like and subscribe. Come on, tell them what to do Insta.
Speaker 4:We're there, Try that podcast. What's?
Speaker 3:your.
Speaker 4:Instagram. Is it Gary Levox?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Instagram at Hold, please.
Speaker 4:Well, while you're doing that, we're on X. I've got people to do things. I've got guys, we're on X, we're on Instagram, we're on Facebook, we're on everything. Go check out, gary. Yeah.
Speaker 3:GaryLaVoxcom. Gary LaVox on everything, all Gary LaVoxel and everything.
Speaker 4:All right.
Speaker 3:Let's do it. We appreciate you being here, Thanks.
Speaker 4:Gary.
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