Try That in a Small Town Podcast
In 2023, Jason Aldean's groundbreaking song and video "Try That In A Small Town" resonated with a resurgence of conservative values in America. The writers of the song, Kurt, Neil, Tully, and Kelley, took the opportunity to launch the Try That In A Small Town Podcast. This platform allows them to reveal the true inspiration behind the song and discuss the importance of common-sense values. With a lineup of influential guests, the hosts will entertain you with the stories behind their music, while also addressing challenging topics affecting our communities and country.
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Tyler Farr - Redneck Crazy Country Music Industry Tales :: Ep 33 Try That In A Small Town
The guys are thrilled to have the incredibly talented Tyler Farr join them on the show. Tyler opens up about his journey from Missouri to becoming a household name in country music, all while sharing some fun tales from his youth. From classical voice training spurred by his mom to making waves with his mega-hit "Redneck Crazy," Tyler’s story is nothing short of inspiring. Plus, hear firsthand about the bond he's formed with fellow artists like Jason Aldean through years of touring and camaraderie.
Ever wondered about the unsung heroes of the music industry? We turn back the clock to explore the fascinating role of song pluggers—those key figures who pitched songs to artists. Although their titles may have evolved over time, their influence remains significant in today's music scene. With a light-hearted nod to the changing industry lingo, this episode promises a mix of heartfelt stories, insider insights, and a touch of humor that’s sure to resonate with anyone curious about the music world's backstage workings. Join us for a ride through stories, laughter, and a genuine peek behind the curtain of country music.
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And I look at these artists and I'm going. You got to have something that sets you apart.
Speaker 2:That was you dude. Redneck Crazy was so good.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. That's what it did. It was fantastic.
Speaker 2:And you had the one-two punch of the hit song the right artist, and then the missing piece, that video too.
Speaker 1:I mean I was featured in the Tennessean for Stalker Awareness Month.
Speaker 4:I'm not joking.
Speaker 1:I'm like.
Speaker 4:I mean.
Speaker 1:I didn't actually do all this stuff, like it's a song I would love to hate, jason.
Speaker 4:Don't misconstrue anything. I'm saying, folks, I would love to hang out, cause he's giving me more shit than any human being on planet earth.
Speaker 5:The try that in a small town.
Speaker 3:Podcast begins now alright, everybody, welcome back to the try that in a small town. All right, everybody, welcome back to the Try that in the Small Town podcast. Let's go. We've got a very, very special guest with us today. But first I'll introduce Kalo. We've got Thrash, we've got TK. I'm Kurt, and today we've got I've got to read this Give me a cool nickname Hold on, you don't get any cool nicknames.
Speaker 1:When did he become a rapper? Let me introduce you.
Speaker 3:I'm going to have to press your mute button. This is the man behind three number one songs right. He was nominated for the 2014 Breakthrough Artist of the Year and here's my favorite taste of country calls him one of the best male vocals in country music we've got tyler. I had to read that two or three times to make sure that was right oh really, yeah, was right no seriously it's so.
Speaker 2:It's great, great to to have you on one of our, one of our favorite people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we've all known tyler for quite a while and by the way you were doing that, I also read that you were classically I was, yeah, train I learned that this weekend I was so it's, can't you tell?
Speaker 2:the best thing, about this podcast.
Speaker 5:Well, there's a bunch of good things about this podcast.
Speaker 3:But like Tyler's been a great friend of ours for a while, but you still do a little bit of homework. And like you just found out, kalo, I was like hold on, he was classically trained. Like did you actually do anything with that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so when I was in, seventh grade, my mother um I can. I was always naturally gifted to be able to sing right. If you do this and humble.
Speaker 4:I mean, I was always naturally gifted, I was I could always sing.
Speaker 1:I mean, what do you want?
Speaker 4:naturally beautiful what do you want me to say? I was naturally gifted at basketball.
Speaker 3:Well, we know, that's another story. Okay, that's another story.
Speaker 6:Don't insult our guest, please.
Speaker 1:I'm an exception to the rule I promise you tonight on tonight's episode.
Speaker 4:But no, I can always sing.
Speaker 1:I was about in seventh, sixth grade Maybe I was supposed to be in seventh but I was in sixth but she got me into classical voice lessons with this lady named Debbie Mills and she was one of the best instructors in our state. I grew up in southern Missouri and got me taking voice lessons from her. Actually, I enjoyed it Back then. I would you know you're trying to be cool.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, I was about to ask who your mom got you in class At sixth grade. That's like that's not the norm. That's a red flag, but you enjoyed it. It was tough.
Speaker 1:Because I'm playing. I played tackle football since I was in second grade, played travel team baseball and that's not the cool route to go. You know what I mean. You mean singing. Singing, yeah, the classical singing. So I got made fun of a lot, a few fights, but you know, I really enjoyed it. I did not admit it, I was like my mom's making me do this. Man, it's just, man, it's just, it is what it is, you know. And then I went to all state, like my freshman year, so all the way through high school, and my dad actually was the last person at my high school which had a gravel parking lot which billy should. He parked his combine in the gravel parking lot after he got done combining in the morning and then went to school, and it was k through 12. My dad was the last person to make all state choir before me, 20 years prior to me. Oh, wow, wow, um. And I did national choir and I was just, I was good at singing. No, obviously you're a great singer. Obviously you're a great singer.
Speaker 2:Obviously you're a great singer. It was just. You know we have a great time because we've spent so much time together.
Speaker 4:There's two years that I spent more time with you than my wife.
Speaker 2:You toured with us and then you know not to jump too far ahead, but well, let's talk. Let's talk about the hits you had first. Let's leave a minute. Redneck Crazy, huge song, massive. I remember had first let's leave, let's leave a minute. Redneck, crazy, huge song, massive. I remember when we heard that song we were on, we were playing a festival somewhere. Uh, what year, what year did that come out, do you?
Speaker 6:remember I was at 13, 2013.
Speaker 1:Okay so this one, this must be. Don't. Don't discount the two songs that came out before that, though that absolutely did not do anything. We didn't hear those.
Speaker 2:I know no, so no, but we were at a festival somewhere and your song it was probably it had to be close to the top of the charts and Jason was saying, man, I really really like this song and we're like, yeah, Tyler Farg kid, you know, and we were huge fans of that. So you have that song.
Speaker 1:Talk about that a little bit in that experience, because it's your first hit, it was, and so the first I got started.
Speaker 1:The peach pickers kind of got me kind of going explain who the peach, dallas Davis and Ben Hayslip and Red Akins all from Georgia, all from Georgia, all great songwriters.
Speaker 1:And honestly it's how I came to like Georgia, because I moved to town at 21, played at Tootsie's for two years, moved back home, worked at a children's rehabilitation facility with kids with affect, disorder and trauma and stuff and it was the second favorite job I ever had besides singing. Then Red Aikens and I was doing stuff in the hunting industry. Red Aikens heard a dim like a demo that I had done from a turkey hunting buddy of mine with owner specialties and called me and said do you plan on moving back? And said, well, I don't know what I'm doing. I was just trying to regather and figure things out and I said I can put in my notice and I can be back in two months. And I remember going back and him sitting with a jaw of a red man in with his arms crossed and just spitting on my booking agent my now booking agent's garage floor and it's like, yeah, that's all right, I'd play him songs already, that's all right.
Speaker 4:Kind of like you, very similar. So that's why I'm used to it, that's why I love you.
Speaker 1:But they kind of got me going and they repel-ed me into Allison M and I started working with them and they landed on jim catino's desk at sony and somehow or another it's. This is a long story so I'm going to skip several parts. But long story short. My first single was hello, goodbye, and pretty contemporary. For that time I was about 20. It's been there's some years, about 26, I guess 25.
Speaker 3:Let me interject real quick. So they wrote that song Hot Mess for you, and it was more of a modern song, did they? This is not anything against those guys. They had huge hits. But knowing you now and knowing how you became famous, like why did they choose that song?
Speaker 1:And I listened, but I was just holding on to the bars and just being like I was just glad. I mean, I've been broke as hell my whole life. Yeah, dude, of course, and that's tricky for new artists it is. It's like you're trying to. You don't really know who you are yet, and if you're a new artist and you know exactly who you are, hats off to you, and rarely that's a great point, let's be, let's be honest, let's be honest.
Speaker 2:Like I didn't. You know, when we talk to young artists, you did the right thing too. It's like you know you play ball until you maybe. Maybe you don't have to play ball and there's much, but you did as much ball, but you did it right. I mean, you want the opportunity. You know at that point, you know that was the fast lane to the opportunity. So I think there's a lesson there, and it led you to where you are right now.
Speaker 3:So so talk about. Where did Redneck Crazy come from? Was that Jim Cattino who was with Sony Records? Did he find that song for you so?
Speaker 1:we cut an album and it was almost done. Hot Mess was my first single Hello Goodbye. After Hot Mess, I'm like oh hell, this is harder than I thought. We got to make a decision here and I wrote this song. I was going through a breakup, I was single at the time. I just went through a breakup and I released a song I wrote called Hello Goodbye. It was single at the time, it just went through a breakup and I released a song I wrote called Hello Goodbye and it's still one of my favorite ballads breakup ballads I've ever written and I'm like we need to put it out. It's the best song on the album in my opinion. Turns out there was a consensus and it was not because it went to like 52 as well.
Speaker 1:And then I remember my manager calling me because I'm like there's no way this home can't do something because it it just pull at your heart. Strange my buddy lee bryce. He was taking we had became friends because he loved the damn song and my manager called me and I just got a new stereo system put in my old Z71. I was back home in Missouri for Thanksgiving. My manager called me and said they're pulling Hello Goodbye. I'm like I don't understand this business. This is crazy. Like, how did this? This is a great song. I know it's a great song in my heart. I know it's a great song, wow. And I said we need to put Redneck Crazy out next. And I heard it.
Speaker 1:So, where did that? Did you? I was in. This is a. I'm not going to be able to say all of this story, but just tell us the bullet points. There was a. There was a gal at a publishing company that knew I just went through a breakup, caught my ex. And I really did catch my ex in Pegram cheating on me wrong driveway, wrong time of night and they weren't playing backgammon.
Speaker 3:So there is some truth behind the song.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, okay, and this gal, this plug-in gal. She happened to be with her in a truck one night Playing backgammon.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's exactly it Wait a minute Wait a minute You've got to tell everybody what a plug-in gal is.
Speaker 6:I was going to say I didn't want to.
Speaker 3:Neil, I'm glad you brought it up.
Speaker 1:Thank, you, neil, because I was in the front seat bench seat.
Speaker 6:I was going to ask how much. It was an hour. I had her foot up on the dash.
Speaker 2:Plug it away.
Speaker 4:Here we were plugging away.
Speaker 1:The song plug. She plugs songs for us.
Speaker 6:And plugged K-Lo help him K-Lo step in. In the old days. A song plugger is somebody that pitched songs In the old days.
Speaker 2:Back in the day.
Speaker 6:I think they still exist, but they don't actually. They're not called pluggers anymore.
Speaker 5:They don't like it.
Speaker 4:It's actually no.
Speaker 2:Especially plug and gal. They don't like that.
Speaker 6:Especially.
Speaker 4:So they pitch songs, especially plug-in gal yeah, yeah, yeah so they say so, I know a song.
Speaker 2:Okay, you better explain, though, pitching songs. It's what they do. They actually play songs and try to get artists to cut them.
Speaker 4:To be specific, thank you, plug-in gal. Yes, okay, can we call that?
Speaker 2:the plug-in gal episode, because I think this is going to really hit a nerve. Can we call that the Plugging?
Speaker 3:Gal episode. Because I think this is going to really hit a nerve.
Speaker 2:What's Plugging?
Speaker 3:Gal's real name? Yeah, or can you say it's?
Speaker 1:all right, emma, okay, yep, I'm my daughter. She's like you got to hear this song. You're the only person that can pull this off. I don't know if that was a compliment or like Okay For sure, that's a great.
Speaker 3:No, seriously, that's a great job of a plug-in gal doing their job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just left losers and she's like you gotta stop by the office and hear this thing but that's amazing and it's a great.
Speaker 3:So we tell people this all the time. We're talking about artists and how they can. Uh, one thing you need to be is genuine. You need to put out songs that are you, and actually I don't know the Hello Goodbye song, but one thing I could maybe say is that maybe people didn't know how to identify that song with you. Redneck Crazy is an amazing introduction to Tyler Farr.
Speaker 1:I honestly don't think Hello, goodbye, and you can listen to it after this, but I don't think it's. I don't think it separated me enough from the pack, right, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I do, especially nowadays. They're just like. I mean, there's just people and it's like you got to look at these artists that I'm going. You got to have something that sets you apart.
Speaker 2:That was you dude. Rent.
Speaker 1:That Crazy was so good and that's what I'm saying it. That's what it did.
Speaker 2:It was fantastic and you had the one two punch of the hit song the right artist, and then the missing piece that that video too really drove it. That was a cool video dude the video.
Speaker 6:All our cast. No, no, yeah, but go ahead. No, it's a great again With the video you know you had.
Speaker 3:Who was in that? Because I know Willie was in that.
Speaker 1:I'll talk a little more about that. So I cut it and I remember going we need to put out, we need to swing for the fence, and that was the reason I wanted that. And. Sonny I'm like I don't care. I said we just here to bunt, or we just want to have fun Right.
Speaker 6:But there's some lines in there, though, because what I was going to ask you and that's funny, like you know, I'm about to get my pissed off on and things like that that would be something the label might say Well, maybe they could soften out of touch, yeah Right, and things like that. And about not getting any he's not getting any tonight you know, and his little truck, you know, things like that there was a lot of little, but it really colored up the song.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. Yeah, and it was real for me, like because I'm like. I mean, I was featured in the Tennessean for Stalker Awareness Month.
Speaker 4:I'm not joking.
Speaker 1:I'm not joking, I mean I didn't actually do all this stuff Like it's a song, Right.
Speaker 2:You can't put. But really, though, when you, as an artist, really proud of you for seeing what was in that song and for the plug-in gal pitching it, because if you get it with the right artists like yourself, it's a polarizing moment.
Speaker 1:You'd have been more proud of me if you'd have heard Josh Keer on the damn demo. Oh really, there's like screeching tires and it sounds like an 80s.
Speaker 4:Dee-dee-dee-dee. I mean, it's just like I would love to hear that down there.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, hey, so the video, just to make sure we get to this, because it's awesome. You had some guests in there, and then Willie Robertson was probably the most famous at the time.
Speaker 1:So I got. Did you know, willie, I got a.
Speaker 3:A buck, commander, or a duck?
Speaker 1:commander. At that time I got a. I'd met Willie. I'd already known Willie from playing because I played acoustic in Colt Ford's band, that's right. For about a year or two when I had a developmental deal with Sony Okay, and that's you know, I cut my teeth at like Tootsie's playing the honky-tonks Whiskey River down in Macon. Beautiful place, we know it, Love it.
Speaker 1:Love what they've done with it. It's, it's another episode, isn't it? It is, it is the whiskey river files. Yeah, but let you, that's probably one of the black label, that um but um man, I really playing with cole, I remember. I mean, that's where I really honed in. He let me. He said, if you play acoustic for me in my band, I'll let you open up for 30 minutes. Use my band, you'll get paid for you opening up and paid for playing in my band. I'm like, and dude, that was the first year. I'm like, damn, I'm rich. I made $80,000, dude, he paid you that. Well, no, that was with the publishing deal. But I was like man, I'm finally not broke as hell.
Speaker 3:And for Colt Ford. People may or may not know, but he was one of the writers to Dirt Road Anthem him and Brantley Gilbert, which is one of the many songs that he's had cut, but he is a great artist and we were touring with Brantley.
Speaker 1:Brantley was playing before Colt, I was playing before Brantley and Brantley was driving a blacked-out Suburban pulling a U-Haul trailer, you know, and that was in Brantley's hell-raising days. Oh yeah, you know, and I remember Colt. One time y'all was playing and he goes hey, jason wants to hear some of your stuff. And I remember being nervous as a damn seed dick and he was very similar to how y'all are now as a damn seed dick in Southern Alabama, and he was very similar to how y'all are now. He didn't like one damn song.
Speaker 4:I sat up there and I was just like he's like hey bud, what's up?
Speaker 1:He's smoking heaters. This is back in the day. He's being cold as hoop earring man. In the day it's being cold, it's hoobie rain man. Those are good, but not really what we're looking for. Okay, touche.
Speaker 3:I'll go back over to the bus. Well, one thing as we've said about Jason is he's not a bullshitter, right.
Speaker 1:He is not a bullshitter and that's why I love him and that's why I love y'all Kind of. I met Willie. We were playing at Rab's Steakhouse in Louisiana, outside of West Monroe, and Willie came on stage and was singing Dirt Road Anthem. This was before Jason had even cut it and he sounded terrible, absolutely terrible, and we just kind of hit it off and, like I said, I was doing stuff in the hunting industry and, man, when it came about to do that Redneck Crazy video I remember Sony I got a script of what they kind of wanted and it's like, man, this would be cool, because we were trying to keep it lighthearted, because we knew we were going to keep it lighthearted, because we know, we knew we were going to get some yeah, some shit for sure, you know.
Speaker 1:And we were wanting to kind of like, hey, we're just joking, but we aren't. Um, and they said, man, it'd be cool if you get some, you know, you know cameos. Like Willie and I was like, oh, I see, I text Willie. And I was like, hey, you want to be in my video? Is there any way we can do it down there? So, yeah, we'll do it. We're filming the world's largest duck call. So I got my buddy, lee Bryce, cole Ford, and I've always been very blessed to have good friends that have my back Damn good friends.
Speaker 3:Damn good friends.
Speaker 1:Nice, very nice. No, I really have, and they really do have my back, and it's been a blessing to have that, and I've always tried to surround myself by people that make me a better person, because I think that's one of the fine tools you can use in life is to just not be around idiots no, you're right yeah close friends that are also celebrities are key.
Speaker 6:I mean, that's a ticket but what I'm saying is they're good dudes.
Speaker 1:I don't hang around fake people. I am what I am. My buddies are the same way. Willie's like sure, come down here. They're like how the hell did you get Willie Robertson? This was when Duck Dynasty was popping off.
Speaker 3:It was huge.
Speaker 1:You couldn't go into a Walmart without seeing an air freshener with Willie's big face and beard on it and a cutout and a loofah. I think I bought one. I'm just lathering down in dial soap, hitting my grundle and everything. Wow, that's a high dollar. Oh yeah, but man, it really. They're like wow, I'm like, so I'll utilize my friends and that's a lot. What this business is about is about making friendships with good people and carrying it forward, paying it forward.
Speaker 2:I remember again that song Peaks Out and I remember during that tour hanging out after the show in our Whiskey River room, that you've been in a hundred times.
Speaker 1:I got hazed in a million times.
Speaker 2:But I remember listening and Jason's like you guys, we should take him out on tour. I remember that. And yeah, guy walks into a bar, which is one of my favorite songs. Me too, I love that song, great song, and it was so fun. So you come out and I remember you coming out on tour with us and it was really, really fun. It was like the hang was great, you were great, songs are great. So it was Guy Waxman Bar. And then your third award.
Speaker 1:Whiskey in my.
Speaker 2:Water. Yeah, and those are the big three back to back to back.
Speaker 1:That's right. It's my least favorite, number one, which one Whiskey in my Water and I've read, it was the only number one I wrote and it's my least favorite.
Speaker 3:Well. That's your only number one that you wrote yeah.
Speaker 6:Wow, why your least favorite?
Speaker 1:Because we wrote it in like 45 minutes, I guess, and it was like Neil talks all the time about Night Train, right you? Didn't even start that. I don't know. I don't know what it is. It's just like we was at Blackberry Farm. We wrote this thing, and I'm not saying it's a bad, it's a bad song, it was just like. I guess it's in my head Cause we wrote it so quick.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and I didn't even know the chords.
Speaker 1:I had a guitar and I was just going, I was doing like this when are you going?
Speaker 6:He's pulling a needle. No, that's perfect.
Speaker 1:This is great. I was just doing, literally don't even know what they were, I was just going what chords are these?
Speaker 4:Oh, they're cool though, hey, while you're sitting there, I've got to hear In my truck flying down the dirt picking you up, feeling kind of crazy. Think I'm in love, I don't know my baby.
Speaker 2:That's awesome dude, and it was hey, don't put it down. I've got to hear, I've got to hear God Walks On the Bar verse chorus. I love that song. God, what are you doing?
Speaker 1:it's getting close to Christmas, what are you doing? Oh we love these Christmas songs seriously.
Speaker 2:It's a present to me, the least you can do for all I've done for you.
Speaker 4:Jesus oh my god, I love this song though.
Speaker 2:Seriously, seriously, it's a present to me it's the least you can do for all I've done for you. Oh my God, I love this song, though, seriously, where are you capoing that thing? The mandolin all of a sudden.
Speaker 6:Oh, I believe. Listen closely to the glockenspiel.
Speaker 1:You didn't know I was going to do a Diamond Rio song, did you?
Speaker 2:I would love God Wants Me to Know, bar Just the verse chorus of it.
Speaker 4:Pick, I got a good story.
Speaker 6:With that, there you go. Oh my god, you have one in your pocket.
Speaker 4:Look at it.
Speaker 6:Gotta come prepared.
Speaker 3:That's amazing Wow.
Speaker 6:It's part of my uniform.
Speaker 4:Joke's on me, it ain't funny. Everybody to me Said a punchline coming my way. I've heard it so many times. Could tell it, but they believe me, I could tell it all on the way. Here goes a guy who walks into a bar, holds a drink, sees a girl that catches his eye, asks her if she wants another Fall for each other. End up lovers of life. Girl that catches his eye, ask her if she wants another Fall for each other. End up lovers alike Cry hold on tight. May it work for a little while. Then one night a taillight's flayed out into the dark and a guy Said a guy Walks into a bar, that's a great song.
Speaker 2:That's a great song, I love your voice, your voice is so cool. I mean you get the right song for your voice. It is really great, man. It is, it is. And so I'm going to skip forward a little bit, because there's one thing I couldn't wait to talk about today because we never talked about it. We haven't talked about this, um. So we went in me, kurt and jason, and cut a project on you and it was a blast. We cut what? Five, six?
Speaker 1:songs. First one was Only Truckin' Down. That was a COVID hit.
Speaker 2:When I talk about because COVID for those of you who don't know, covid really changed our business, and not all for the better. So we cut this in 2019 and then the world shuts down, and what happened was you know, we were trying to do almost like a relaunch it was. It was we're such fans and we had some great songs and only chuck in town was, when we cut, excited about it, and the whole thought was to send you out on to radio again and revisit all these radio stations and relaunch you and we were number like number three.
Speaker 1:most added yeah. And I did a big old radio tour and it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 2:And the world shut down. And I tell everybody, if you look at the artists that got hurt the most by covid tyler farr is the top of that list, because we had a great project and it got weird. It went from you know, they stopped doing their radio visits and it went to all streaming and it was, it was, it was a big change of everything.
Speaker 3:So part of what I think you do really, really well is you connect with people, and you connect with people well in concert uh, in a room like telly said you were going to go around to all the radio stations again and meet those guys.
Speaker 1:You excel in those areas yeah, and I like, I take, I'll, I'll pat myself on the back, for that's one of my, you know, if you say x-men powers, you know that's that's what I, that was my thing, and that's what hurt me, yeah, the most and it, it. I was in a dark place for a while after that because that killed me well, you know it killed.
Speaker 2:It killed us, it to this day of of doing being in this business 30 years and all the things we've done that worked and hadn't worked. The one thing that bothers me the most is that that project didn't do what it should have for you and I almost feel like we let you down in a way, and it was just like the timing was weird.
Speaker 2:I love that project, though I love the songs we cut. You didn't let me down, but it was fun making it. We had a great time. There were some great songs, neil, one of my favorite songs we did.
Speaker 4:I wish love wasn't so hard.
Speaker 1:I remember when Al Dean called me about that yeah, Because we had just got finished and he was practically I remember calling him.
Speaker 6:I'm like, are you sure you want?
Speaker 1:me to cut this.
Speaker 3:It was, yeah, it was me and Kayla. Can we get a little? Was Kayla on that song too?
Speaker 6:Oh, did you bring a lyric? I happen to have one with me, oh my God. Okay, I'll pass them around here.
Speaker 1:Give us a little bit of that. I want to hear some of that. I can't sing it today.
Speaker 6:I can sing it, he can, can you sing it? I want everybody.
Speaker 1:I ain't saying this. Do you remember Neil? Do you remember the chorus?
Speaker 6:There's a good story though, right?
Speaker 1:No, oh I don't even know if I'm we're going to fake it though, Because it ended up being about one T-Far.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cooter, cooter Brown, right here. Kalo, I didn't know you were on this song. Neil said he wrote it by himself. Well, you know what's?
Speaker 6:funny.
Speaker 1:It's not just Neil. It's not just Neil that said, he wrote it by himself.
Speaker 5:I just lost my bloodhound, here let's see where this is.
Speaker 3:This is an amazing song. It's a great song.
Speaker 1:My bloodhound Cooter Brown. He died. He was like 13 years old.
Speaker 2:I love this song too, and I love it.
Speaker 3:I'm going to this is one of those that you thought it's just me and you on this one, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was just the two of us, boy.
Speaker 4:Boy. Whatever she and I went, he'd want to ride. He loved the wind in his face, hanging at the passenger side Right next to her Cause. He loved her too. Thank God I had him To get me through. He pulled me through. I wish love wasn't so hard. I wish people could stay together. I wish girls couldn't break hearts and dogs could live forever. He was there that night. I drank myself to sleep. He laid there on the floor by the couch Right next to me. Then the sun came up. It was like he knew he stood by me, like a friend would do, like best friends do. I wish love wasn't so hard. I wish people could stay together. I wish girls couldn't break hearts and dogs could live forever what a great song great song great song Neil Tyler Farrell yeah as you said.
Speaker 4:Yeah, good job, neil, great job.
Speaker 6:Neil even though Neil and I did write that together, I guess. I guess Neil was interviewed and it says the unreleased track is called Dogs who Live Forever, which is wrong already. And it says the underlies track is called Dogs who Live Forever, which is wrong already. And it says and while Neil Thrasher wrote it, farr's performance was inspired by the death of his bloodhound. Is that on it's on Taste of Country? And anyway it was really funny. I read that today and I thought man Neil he forgot about me.
Speaker 1:Did you instantly get mad at me for that? No, I didn't remember talking to you.
Speaker 2:That was just funny, it does say written by Neil Thrasher and only Neil Thrasher it's funny.
Speaker 6:Even though it's Warner Chappell, it's like there's no writers on it.
Speaker 1:It's funny but I started honestly. I started singing that show, that song, live at my shows and man it, man, it was hard. I'd start choking up, I'd be crying, I'd sound like a.
Speaker 2:Every song we cut with you, and we've cut a few in the course of, and there's one I want to talk about when we get to it. But, man, I just hate that it didn't relaunch everything, and COVID was to blame for most of that.
Speaker 1:And here's the deal. Here's what I've had to accept as a man is like you want one hand and shit the other. See which one you get first. Yeah, I got a beautiful three-year-old little girl. That happened during code. What I thought my career was gonna. I mean, I mean you can tell God your plan. He going to laugh right in your damn face Amen, you're right, you know so that it is what it is and you got to spend more time with us, which is a gift.
Speaker 2:That's not what I was talking about.
Speaker 1:It's like you can make your plans, and maybe that's not the plan he had for you, so I just try to get better at listening to his plan instead of mine. Yeah yeah, that's a good lesson there.
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Speaker 3:Thank you, branded Bills, for this. By the way, they've been rocking with us. We got Tyler Farr with us. We still been talking about I Wish Dogs Could Live Forever. Yeah, by the way, go check out that song. It's on Apple Music, right it is? It's on all that stuff, unless they pulled it. No, it's such a great song.
Speaker 6:It's still there, it's still there.
Speaker 3:It's an amazing, amazing song. Where do we?
Speaker 2:want to go. Well, there's one song we did and, of course, over the couple of years, we cut a lot of music together trying to find something that would connect. And we had a great project and covet happened and it kind of put a dent in our plan and so we continued to cut and try to get music heard. And where did this idea? It was out. I think it was aldine's idea, wasn't it? To cut simple man. Yes, okay, so this idea comes up. What, what?
Speaker 1:three and a half four years ago, I don't know, about three years ago or so, we was at E3. We was hunting out there, which me and Jason just got back from E3 a few weeks ago. He didn't kill anything, by the way.
Speaker 3:Explain to people what.
Speaker 1:E3 is. E3 is Adam Oroch's ranch. Out there, adam, great man, adam, we just had him on?
Speaker 3:Does the E3?
Speaker 1:Foundation does a bunch of stuff for sex trafficking. His foundation benefits that and wounded vets and just a great dude, One of my good friends. We was out there doing our annual buck commander hunt, which I got to hunt with Jason back when I got to hunting with Jason back when I was on tour with y'all and Willie ended up asking me to be a part of Buck Commander about five years ago and that's all I wanted to do was be like I think I wanted to be in the hunting industry before I wanted to sing. I was just a crappy hunter.
Speaker 3:I'm like being a naturally gifted singer, yeah.
Speaker 1:But no, it's kind of funny how things worked out, because Willie was part of that. I already met him. It's funny how things kind of just work out. And I was with Jason at E3. And he's like it was after the coveted we had released, only truck in town, y'all produced and we were all kind of frustrated. It was covered and we're like what the hell happened, which that was what the entire country was saying. Right, what the hell, what the hell happened, what just happened. And Jason goes, dude, basically like we need to send it. You like Charlie Daniels I know you're a big fan of Charlie Daniels I'm like, yeah, and he goes, we need to do Simple man.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, hell, yeah, he goes. We need to cut this, we need to cut it raw, we need to do Simple man. I'm like, oh, hell, yeah, he goes, we need to cut this, we need to cut it raw, we need to put it out there. We don't need to ask for permission and we need to send this son of a bitch out there and smack him right in the face. I mean, that's what he said.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, hell, yeah, absolutely the idea was amazing and I remember we had a breakfast meeting about this and one of my favorite moments. We're sitting all around breakfast and you're talking about okay, we're gonna cut, simple man. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, this is great, this is classic music business story. So I'm sitting there, I'm like simple man, okay, boy, that's gonna be interesting. And I'm thinking to myself simple man, leonard Skinner. So the whole meeting, the whole hour and a half meeting I actually didn't do.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting there and I'm like okay, simple man this is, he must really feel a connection to this thing are we sure this is the one?
Speaker 3:I guess this is the one I'm like it's a five minute song.
Speaker 4:And you and Aldine were passionate.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, I'm like because where I'm from, like we listen to me seriously. Like I didn't listen to a lot of early Charlie Daniels, I listened to a lot of Leonard Skinner, heard that hook and I was like okay, I'm like wow, they are really feeling it for this thing. I'm like I call kurt.
Speaker 4:I'm like. I'm like man, they're really loving this man idea. I guess we're gonna have to do some dual guitar stuff at the end.
Speaker 2:So me and kurt talk and I'm like I'm like kurt goes like man, one of us should call dean and make sure this is the right song. I was like I'm like, all right, I'll do it. I'll call out the. I'm like all right, I'll do it, I'll call Aldine. I'm like I remember pulling out of the breakfast place. I'm driving home and I call Aldine. I'm like bro, I got a couple concerns.
Speaker 2:I guess we can cut the song down from six and a half minutes to three and do a bunch of twin guitar stuff and Aldine's like there's this awkward silence, there's this awkward silence and I'm like you there, bro, and he goes. What is wrong with you? I was like Simple man, he goes. I said dude, it's a Leonard Skinner thing. He goes, leonard Skinner, not that you dumbass Simple man from Charlie Dean, was you idiot? That's what he said.
Speaker 6:I'm like oh, of course, of course, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:Well then, it made perfect sense, but we did cut a hell of a version. You sing your ass off on it. Of course, label was scared to death.
Speaker 1:Got shut down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why not? They were a little scared.
Speaker 5:Shut down.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they were a little scared. Yeah, but they were also scared to try that in the small town.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah. So Jason, I was like Jason's pumped up about it. I was like, oh hell, yeah, let's go out with the gloves off and slap these son of bitches in the face. You know, let's get rowdy. And we went and threw it out there and it went up the chains and then just nope, we can't put it out. We can't do that, can't do it.
Speaker 4:The Russians said no.
Speaker 1:Well, it's out there now and I'm like, who are the damn Russians? Don't they do the satellites?
Speaker 5:What the hell do they have to do with coffee damn.
Speaker 3:Hey let's switch gears a little bit.
Speaker 1:I was madder than a. Keebler if he got demoted to fudge packer.
Speaker 4:I knew that was going to have to be good.
Speaker 3:I knew that was going to be good. Speaking of getting mad, just this week there was a little controversy on the gram deriving from Billboard's 100 greatest country artists of all time, so don't get me started on that.
Speaker 5:Well, we're going to get you started because, let's tell people what happened.
Speaker 3:Uh, they put out a list of 100 uh, best country artist and jason aldean was not on the list. Maren morris was she made it.
Speaker 1:She was who maren morris exactly.
Speaker 4:She's on it really he's all, I all I know, no shit, no good.
Speaker 1:And there's, like two others that I've never heard of, that aren't?
Speaker 3:So I want to get you started. Tully brought up a good point. We started to talk about this downstairs and Tully and I both posted on this and it obviously gained a lot of traction, because I think you know we're biased. But obviously we think he should be included in that list, and not just included, but pretty far up the list. There was a lot of love for him, some hate too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they came out of the woodworks again. I tell you this the thing about it is, you know, and Todd, I think you would agree, I mean you've been around us for a long time One thing about Jason is like I do feel like it should be a jest, because definitely had an impact on the industry that's an understatement, and the way music took a turn and he was on the forefront of that and so, and so you know, because Jason is Jason's not going to come out and post something about it, so I felt like it was my place. I think Kurt did too like to get our, our boys back. That's what we do, because that's he's not going to do that, right, but man they, tyler you right, but man, they um.
Speaker 1:Tyler, you know, you know me, I think it was intentional. What do you think? 100? Well, I'm not gonna bite my tongue here. One day don't we release simple man. You know, we try to release it. Um, earlier the machine shut us down. Jason knew there was a place for a song like that that people would feel, which was Try that in a Small Town, so he released it. The people responded what more do you need to say? But then they pull out this crap about someone getting hung on the town square. And I'm over there clenching my teeth going what in the hell? Like seriously, are you just trying to find something?
Speaker 4:wrong with it, and they are.
Speaker 1:That's what they do and that's their program. So guess what else is their program? To make sure he doesn't find his way into the Billboard Top 100 artists. That's also their program and that's an intentional thing and that goes into even to Morgan Wallen.
Speaker 4:Like whoever the hell is.
Speaker 1:I don't remember his name. He was in the Big Lebowski.
Speaker 5:Jeff.
Speaker 3:Bridges.
Speaker 1:Morgan Whalen.
Speaker 3:Don't tell me for a second that wasn't intentional.
Speaker 1:A smack in the face because he wouldn't show up. Well hell, I wouldn't show up if I was him either.
Speaker 3:I agree Morgan's been disrespected so much by the industry, by the award shows and that kind of stuff. I should say On the back of the Billboard thing. It's no coincidence that Billboard had our song as the worst of the year. They tried that in a small town.
Speaker 5:Was it really? Yeah, it made the list of worst song of the year. They tried that in a small town. It was yeah, it made the list of worst song of the year, I think I blocked that out, so we know where they stand it's a.
Speaker 1:It's a. It's a game plan that someone other than ourselves, our people, have against us, is what it is, isn't?
Speaker 2:it funny, though, to you. We've talked about it in here, but not not with you, and I want to get your take. I would love to hate Jason.
Speaker 4:Don't misconstrue anything I'm saying folks. I would love to hate him because he's giving me more shit than any human being on the planet and being on the planet.
Speaker 2:I tell you what, though? It just goes to show that they have no feel for who the country audience is. You're out there, you're touring, what are you doing? 120, 30 shows a year.
Speaker 1:I live out there. I mean, I live in the country, I stay out there and those are my damn people and I got buddies that grow crops, that woodworkers, damn, just country-ass people, and that's the people I like to be around and I can hear from them. And that's why I knew it's going to be bullshit again if Trump didn't get elected, because I'm like I tour the damn world, I see how many small towns there are. I know what's going on, so there's going to be some shit that pops off if this happens again. You know what I mean. Like I've been around people and they're everywhere. They're in New York, they're in New Jersey, that's right.
Speaker 2:We talk about it all the time, like some of the biggest responses we had from Try that in a Small Town Live was in New Jersey, you know, was in Salt.
Speaker 2:Lake City, mm-hmm, you know, and that's I mean. We talked about it this year like we knew we could see it brewing in our like god, the crowd's young man, they're fired up and that bass, that young bass, went out and everybody's had enough. They had enough. But it was interesting to see the response to the song and you know, one of the biggest responses in in uh was in boston and boston's always been good to us always been good boston love it, but it's, but it's a hard.
Speaker 3:It's a blue collar town, you know, and it's uh it's like pittsburgh, boston I mean it's, it's it's been, it was a great, it was a still kayla, we're all kind of biased, especially, uh, with jason and the billboard thing did. Um, how do you guys, objectively, I mean obviously you're connected with jason, but how, like, what was your take on that? What, the billboard leaving him off of the? Oh, just intentions what I said a while ago.
Speaker 1:It was intentional. Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, it's so obvious, it wasn't even funny. Yeah, yeah. And for maren morris to make it on the list was even an extra stick in the gut.
Speaker 5:Because that's a joke. Are you kidding me? I mean I should have made it.
Speaker 1:If she damn made it.
Speaker 6:Well, what was funny? Because Try that in Small Town was number one on the Pot 100 billboard, which they couldn't stop that yeah right, which is so funny.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine when?
Speaker 6:they when they realized that they had to print it. This is we have to. It's numerical. We have to do it, we can't keep it out, but they had to do it and it's in there forever.
Speaker 5:Billboard it's all over the internet.
Speaker 6:Everybody knows the billboard staff is the one.
Speaker 1:They're the ones that came up with the list, the top 100 list, the staff of bill. Is that what it was? Yes, they don't have any control over the charts, but anything they have control over, they're going to stick it to Jason, because he's one of like three guys or gals out there that will even utter the word Trump, and they're going to try to make him pay for it, but all it's doing is just helping his. What about Aaron Lewis. So, yeah, right Is he. I mean, like, what the hell that was like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I think people like we learned is that you know, people are not going to be told what they can and can't listen to and what they can like and they can't like. You know, and, and you and you, you're great for this industry, man, seriously, you're like we are missing that in the young artists today.
Speaker 3:It's like the backbone of what country?
Speaker 2:I think I think I think we're missing that we talk about it all the time as the running theme on this podcast is the fear I have for the future of this genre. Cause the fear I have for the future of this genre Because sometimes I feel things are turning a good way and I don't think they are, honestly, I mean I'd be lying if I told you I didn't. I don't like the way the artists are coming up. I don't like the way they have really lack of experience really playing before they get to a big stage even. But my point is that Tyler Farr is important to this genre. I appreciate it. I really mean that love you to death and you, you need to be on the radio, you need to be playing shows because it's a genuine, you're a genuine artist speaking of that, you got some new stuff coming up.
Speaker 1:I do. We got a song coming out. I'm back with my original producer, Jim Cattino. He's great.
Speaker 2:So we're not producing.
Speaker 6:You got fired, wait a minute.
Speaker 4:We got fired. No.
Speaker 1:Asshole. Did we write it no?
Speaker 2:Are we write it?
Speaker 1:No, jesus Are we listed anywhere.
Speaker 1:No, you are not. If you want to cover art, you know You're in the video, but no man. I'm Happy to be working with Jim again and we're putting out this, this new song, be it the end of the year, uh, coming to a bar near you and I'd be lying if I didn't say, like my kind of how I look at things a little different than how it used to be, it's I got a three-year-old about to be a four-year-old little girl. So it's like you know what, if I get another hit, great, if I don't, great. I'm gonna keep shooting deer. You know, make sure y'all go check out bug commander, by the way, yeah, absolutely, because I'm killing the most deer. But, um, you know, it's just a little different. You get older and your priorities change and I would love another crack at it.
Speaker 3:Would love it, hey. So how are they doing this? Because the new model now is you have to ask. It's TikTok, so they're trying to get it viral. They're trying to get the streams up before they go to radio.
Speaker 1:Because for people listening, they don't understand the method. It's crazy. It's a whole different way than when I got started. Of course it is, and we're all. I mean I was doing damn showcase Like y'all were third and Lansley 12th and Porter yeah, I played six damn showcases. You go do a radio tour. It goes on the radio, you know, and they had me. They said I was 10 pounds overweight.
Speaker 4:Now there's some bitches coming in looking like damn sumo wrestlers. I'm like shit. Yeah, I know. Damn man, I could have just been fat.
Speaker 2:I know, damn, maybe that's your thing. You get fat enough.
Speaker 4:No, no I don't think my wife would fly out like that. I know.
Speaker 1:Damn. Maybe that's your thing. You get fat enough, no, no.
Speaker 3:I don't think my wife would fly out like that. But so are they just trying to get it out by early first or streaming.
Speaker 1:We had this song we just put out called Wait For it, and it was literally directed towards Instagram and me doing dumbass stuff, which y'all have seen Me falling off things. You do that well though. I compliment it, yes, but it's a whole different ballgame with the TikTok it is. I will not conform to doing this selfie, selfie.
Speaker 4:And live singing.
Speaker 1:Like just you got to have like some boundaries, like there's guys doing this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, it's rough, it's rough.
Speaker 2:It's tougher old guys.
Speaker 4:I'm like where'd your nuts go, Did you?
Speaker 5:lose them during.
Speaker 4:COVID too. Hey, so you're telling me you lost your sense of smell and your ball sack.
Speaker 2:Hey, you know what it reminds me? I'm a little hurt in this podcast, before we wrap it up, that you didn't talk about our hunting trip we had. It was great. We had an amazing hunting trip.
Speaker 1:We limited out give people a short story a short story we got still my freezer yeah, where is that thing?
Speaker 2:by the way, it's in my freezer. Um, we go down to a to write some songs. I had this um incredible ranch in texas. I'm still banned from there. Yeah, we all are, I'm afraid. So we we writing songs. And this is when I say this is a um five star, this is crazy, like this flying on jet private strip. We get, we get and we're hunting. We go, we go turkey hunting, of course don't, don't you put that on me, dewey I got stuck in a blind with T-Far roasting in this blind no turkeys.
Speaker 2:He's like man, I'm a I wouldn't the best turkey call in Missouri, didn't you tell me that? Probably Okay. So he's doing this. Turkey call Turkeys are. I don't see a turkey. How long? Two hours? No turkey, I'm not God. So anyway, we get back to the, we get back to the, we get back to the you know lodge and everybody's got like seven turkeys. I'm like, damn t-far, we got nothing. We suck that night we have. We start getting in the whiskey and I want to kill something. I didn't shoot anything. So we get in the whiskey. I asked him how many can we shoot? We grab an suv probably shouldn't have.
Speaker 1:We're pretty drunk and we go around the property they said like they're like 25, you're 11 jack rabbits yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So they told you know, kill rabbits. Okay, we'll kill rabbits. So we get in an suv and shotguns and we start killing rabbits.
Speaker 6:Now, were they pets in a cage, or were they wild? Oh, no, no.
Speaker 1:Dude these jackrabbits they're intimidating they're jumping out of a moving vehicle mowing these jokers down.
Speaker 4:And to our listeners they— he's throwing pebbles like he's a biblical man.
Speaker 1:They had to be killed. We were told they had to our listeners. He's throwing pebbles like he's a biblical man.
Speaker 2:They had to be killed. We were told they had to be killed. So those of you who are offended by this, so how many did you? Get. We killed Truck load, truck load.
Speaker 3:Back in the back of the SUV Dude I killed one as tall as you bro. That's not saying much. It is for a rabbit.
Speaker 4:It is for a rabbit. I've never heard this. It is for a rabbit.
Speaker 2:You're supposed to get it mounted for me. Where is it? It's in my freezer. Don't say you will, because it's been years have you ever eaten jackrabbit?
Speaker 3:Does anybody eat jackrabbit? We can.
Speaker 4:I don't want any rabbit.
Speaker 1:We got back there that night and shot one by the lodge. These guys are freaking out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it wasn't good, so you're banned. We shot one too close to the other.
Speaker 1:I've had other people tell me about this that have done retreats after us.
Speaker 3:Oh, because of stories of you guys going out, yeah.
Speaker 1:They told me they're like man. What the hell did y'all do? And I'm like man. Man, it got a little western we were.
Speaker 2:We were a bottle, we were a bottle in in this, in this suv, and we were driving off road and there was gunfire coming out.
Speaker 3:It's amazing it was absolutely great time really great time.
Speaker 1:That's what it's about. It is the fellowship did uh, did tell, have camo on in the blind. He was wearing zero camo. I think he was dressed just like this, probably so close. Running through cactuses hurtling over them shooting a shotgun. I can't believe. I've never heard this story. But, it's all about the Fellowship.
Speaker 2:And we wrote some great songs too.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you all for having me on your podcast.
Speaker 6:We're glad to have you here, I was going to ask you one more thing before Kurt closes out here.
Speaker 1:Sling Blade. Can you give us a line from Sling Blade real?
Speaker 4:quick What'd?
Speaker 1:you kill Jesse for he's getting into it. I reckon I ain't got no reason to kill nobody. No reason to kill nobody. Come on, found Jesse Dixon. He was a mean fella. That's solid, Jesse the poke funnet boys Are in high school. One day I come home there's old Jesse Laying on top of my mother. Reckon he was having his way with her.
Speaker 3:Hmm, reckon he is having his way with her so good. One of my favorites, excellent t-far. You're a great man, you're a great friend. We're so thankful you were here. Uh, what's the name of the song that's coming out?
Speaker 1:Coming to a Bar Near you.
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