Try That in a Small Town Podcast
In 2023, Jason Aldean's groundbreaking song and video "Try That In A Small Town" resonated with a resurgence of conservative values in America. The writers of the song, Kurt, Neil, Tully, and Kelley, took the opportunity to launch the Try That In A Small Town Podcast. This platform allows them to reveal the true inspiration behind the song and discuss the importance of common-sense values. With a lineup of influential guests, the hosts will entertain you with the stories behind their music, while also addressing challenging topics affecting our communities and country.
Try That in a Small Town Podcast
Inauguration Day, Absurd Medal of Freedom Recipients and New Songwriters :: Try That in a Small Town Podcast
What if your wildest wardrobe choice could make the night unforgettable? As we gear up for the Inauguration Day celebrations in Washington, D.C., we're caught in a hilarious debate over donning our "Dumb and Dumber" suits for a "grand ball" performance. Amidst the laughter, the episode also explores the intricacies of our creative processes, from songwriting to pitching ideas to Taylor Sheridan's hit shows. With a nod to NFL enthusiasts, we share our admiration for Dan Campbell and the camaraderie he brings to the Detroit Lions, despite not being the biggest football fanatics ourselves.
Heroism takes center stage as we pay tribute to Nick Bostic, a small-town hero whose courage and selflessness remind us of the everyday bravery often overlooked. We dive into heartfelt discussions about the importance of recognizing and honoring such acts, inviting listeners to share similar stories from their own communities.
Rounding off, our episode ventures into the evolving landscape of the music industry, exploring the shifting perspectives among young artists and songwriters. With the influence of social media and streaming platforms reshaping success, we reflect on the disconnect between new and seasoned songwriters, emphasizing the lasting importance of legacy and understanding one's roots. As we embrace the energy of "Come alive in 25," expect an exciting lineup of guests and topics that will keep you engaged and entertained throughout the year.
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This episode will air January 20th, which is a significant day. It is Inauguration Day. Tully and I will be there in DC for the inauguration. We're doing one of the balls that night, which is going to be the Grand Ball. Is it the Grand Ball? No, it should be called the Grand.
Speaker 2:Ball. It might be called the Grand Ball. It will be grand it will be. But we get to do this ball. It might be called the grand ball.
Speaker 1:It will be grand it will be, but we get to do this ball. It's pretty awesome, right.
Speaker 3:You guys get to go do that. It's amazing. Should we wear our Dumb and Dumber suits? I would love to you know you're not going to hit a smash every time you write a movie. It's like writing a song. You're not going to write a smash every time.
Speaker 2:And he's on fire.
Speaker 3:But he's good, he's really good.
Speaker 1:He knows what he wants. Most of the time, he writes a good one. You know what we should do. We should be pitching songs to Taylor Sheridan for his shows.
Speaker 2:But you know what Good idea Hold on.
Speaker 1:You don't think we should be? No, we should be. Okay. How about Dan Campbell and the Lions? Everybody's got to be a fan of that team, right? Who is not a fan of Dan Campbell? You guys don't watch NFL, do you?
Speaker 3:Yes, absolutely. I don't watch that much. I watch football. I mean, we're college guys, but we do.
Speaker 1:That's a good organization to root for, to me.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's a football team.
Speaker 3:Anybody in the NFL can just watch the team play and then go follow them into the locker room and see what's going on in the locker room, see what the vibe's like, see what the atmosphere and the air's like in the locker room. It's all you've got to do in the NFL.
Speaker 5:The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah, bring us on. Here we are, we're back. Are we ready to roll? James, james, you look good. Did you have some eggnog this year? Oh, about eight bottles of it. Really. You got any left over? I do, I think I do. Well, you know what? My question to you guys what happened to your?
Speaker 1:voice it got really high, hey, listen.
Speaker 3:This is my broadcast voice. I'm learning from Jim. Hey, do y'all have any Evan Williams eggnog left over? I have a bottle left. You do yeah.
Speaker 1:I have no bottles left. You have none, yeah.
Speaker 6:Last bottle I had, I brought here shared it with you guys, and that was the last one I had.
Speaker 3:Really All right and that was the last one I had Really All right. I think I've got four bottles left and my question was Also.
Speaker 1:Now I have a bottle left right.
Speaker 3:Well, y'all are going to leave with a parting gift tonight. Okay, Ooh, yeah. You can celebrate with eggnog all year long, especially hey that sounds good right now.
Speaker 2:I would love a glass of that right now.
Speaker 1:You would, wouldn't you?
Speaker 6:Yeah the spirit of breath left you. It's cold outside, can we? Have some Gotta go home. I don't know, hey Wade, it's cold outside we have some, you know what.
Speaker 3:I'll have my little minion run downstairs and get you a glass.
Speaker 6:Let's wait for the break. It's like Kamala.
Speaker 2:Harris all your accents. It's Kamala.
Speaker 6:You never know what's going to come out of here what is it Kamala? No, it's Kamala, it's Kamala, it is.
Speaker 3:Kamala hey look, look, I got a question.
Speaker 6:Or it was Kamala.
Speaker 3:Y'all get off the eggnog story. I got to get you before you get off the eggnog. How long does it? How long is the shelf life on Evan Williams' eggnog? That's my, If you don't open it. There's got to be a shelf life. It's good until next year, I don't know.
Speaker 6:It's got a little bit of dairy in there. If you open it, I bet it tells you to drink it within so many days, really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I can't find a date on it.
Speaker 6:It doesn't last that long. Anyway, I can't find a date on it. I wonder if people think we're drunks.
Speaker 3:No, no, it's a possible, possible, they don't, they don't. Hey, welcome back to the podcast. Yeah, this is a small town podcast.
Speaker 1:We are at the patriot mobile studios uh, hopefully drinking some evan williams and it does sound amazing right now it always sounds amazing I'll throw it out there again let's start at least by saying happy new year, kurt
Speaker 3:we're way past that. We did it.
Speaker 6:We did it. Come on, we're still in the month of January.
Speaker 1:So right, let's have this quick, very quick discussion. Oh good, my cutoff date is a week, five days, actually Fifth Five days. Everybody's got a cutoff date.
Speaker 6:When's yours? We talked about this a little bit before coming on. But the music industry we started back on the 6th, which was monday, so I would take that all the way to friday because we hadn't seen people since the holidays. So when we came in here, you know tonight if I didn't know that you'd get angry for me saying happy new year I would have said happy new year, buddy.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make sense though. Like what is what if the first time you see somebody is in?
Speaker 6:February, but it's not, it's the seventh, like right now it's a seven. So you have a two week grace period, not necessarily, no, now, if I came back to work week when I hadn't seen anybody from the holidays, and that's where I would let me ask you this Tully's birthday is April 13th.
Speaker 1:Very good, I know, impressive right. This is different, so Tully's birthday comes around. Happy birthday, tully.
Speaker 6:Right, right.
Speaker 1:Maybe you see him the next day. You go hey, happy birthday, I hope you had a good birthday. At what point do you stop saying it's April 28th? Happy birthday, Tully. It's a legitimate point.
Speaker 6:No, it's different because Tully's birthday is so much smaller? No, it's not doing a new year? It's really not. It's a new year for Tully, I know, but that's just one person. This is the whole world just one person.
Speaker 2:This is the whole world. Well, god right. Well, here's. Here's the main problem. Do you have a response? I mean, this is all silly to me anyway, because I'm gonna you get a week regardless, because you don't have to say happy new year to someone anyway I agree.
Speaker 2:You don't have to say this I say if you see, if I see someone on the third getting coffee, someone I don't know, I might say Happy New Year, because I feel it in the first week, yeah, but just if I see someone I know on the 12th or the 8th, I'm not saying it.
Speaker 3:You don't have to say Happy New Year just because you know the person. You're right, you're right. I don't ever say it. I never return fire ever.
Speaker 4:I mean if they say, if they say happy new year, I'll say roll tide or something you know, like that I've never.
Speaker 6:That's actually great oh is it rolled? I thought it was hot hot time. Yeah, they're right commercial, that's great.
Speaker 3:I don't say I've never. I've never said happy new year back, I just don it feels. I don't. I feel uncomfortable saying it.
Speaker 6:I don't think we really say it as much as we do. We text it Happy New Year. We text it and email it Get your shit together Now the iPhones have you noticed if you put Happy New Year in.
Speaker 1:I love it. Love the fireworks.
Speaker 6:Fantastic, you do. Yeah, you got to be. It's Happy New Year, no exclamation points. How?
Speaker 3:do you even do that? I don't even know where to find that on my phone. How do you?
Speaker 1:do that. Do you think people have turned this off yet?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, we're great. They love us.
Speaker 1:Hey, so let's go to this. This episode will air January 20, which is a significant day. It is Inauguration Day. Tully and I will be there in DC for the inauguration. We're doing one of the balls that night, which is going to be the Grand Ball. Is it the Grand Ball? No, it should be called the Grand Ball.
Speaker 2:It might be called the Grand Ball. It will be grand, it will be.
Speaker 1:But we get to do this ball. It's pretty awesome, right.
Speaker 2:You guys, but we get to do this ball. It's pretty awesome, right, you guys get to go do that. It's amazing. Should we wear our dumb and dumber suits? I?
Speaker 1:would love to. It is a black tie event. I don't really have a black tie. What are you gonna?
Speaker 2:wear. I have a black. It's a black leather jacket event for me, my standard, you know um what do you guys think?
Speaker 1:it's like we're the band, but it is a black tie event. So what's the protocol? What are you supposed to? It's like we're the band, but it is a black tie event. So what's the protocol? What are you supposed to do?
Speaker 4:We're wearing what we wear.
Speaker 3:I'll post pictures and give pictures to Jim. The year that I did it I did it. I got to perform at the Veterans Ball on Trump's first inauguration.
Speaker 1:That's right. Eight years ago.
Speaker 3:I looked like I was in the mafia, but it was fantastic.
Speaker 1:Why did you look like you were in the mafia? I?
Speaker 3:had my hair all slicked back and I was in black tux.
Speaker 1:It was, I looked good. Was that a phase you were going through or was it just a special? No, no, no, I was just.
Speaker 1:I was trying to veterans. It was fantastic. We play with gary labox, me and wendell mobley. That had to be amazing. It was. It was absolutely amazing. That's incredible. We're, I gotta tell you we're looking forward to it. It's gonna be. It is like a once in a lifetime thing, right? Yeah, it doesn't like. This is put aside politics so you get to play for the at the presidential inauguration. It's pretty awesome, absolutely. And quick backstory this is cool. Tully knows this. My dad, uh, is a musician, was his whole life. 40 years ago to the day, 1984, he played reagan's inaugural ball. Wow, that's amazing, yep that's amazing.
Speaker 3:It's pretty amazing, right? So?
Speaker 1:awesome. So 40 years later, I'm gonna be doing it, and it's pretty cool that we'll be able to have that.
Speaker 3:I can't wait for the story when y'all get back. I can't wait to hear what you saw, what you heard, how it was. It'll be great. Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Do y'all have to wear tuxes?
Speaker 1:We'll see cash.
Speaker 2:We'll see cash out there.
Speaker 1:We'll see a lot of our friends.
Speaker 3:Y'all going to have to wear tuxes, right, no, I don't think we're wearing tuxes.
Speaker 1:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:They're artists, we get to wear our version of a tux, which is boots, jeans, black t-shirt, black leather coat. You'll wear the version Al. Dean tells you to wear. That's the version we're wearing. He's not going to wear a tux, but will the leather be extra squeaky Because it's going to be really tight after the holidays.
Speaker 6:We'll be like super squeaky.
Speaker 2:It's really hard to do what we do up there in a tux man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is that stance. It's hard. The A-frame doesn't really work. No, you're exactly right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we will be. We're going to look good, we know that.
Speaker 3:There's no doubt about that, that's a given, that's a given.
Speaker 6:Neil, when you were playing there because Wade mentioned it earlier and I remember it at that event didn't you have some really special whiskey? Oh like really special whiskey oh, you're talking about the uh, the dinner with the american legion.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, yeah, can you tell me, because I'm not sure if you've told that fully.
Speaker 6:I can't remember if I ever told that story on here I don't think you remember much of any of it, so but when you say special whiskey.
Speaker 1:Are you alluding to the special whiskey? It?
Speaker 3:must have been some real, real old pappy. Okay, because I, because we're sitting at this table and we're at Del Frisco's in the private room upstairs and there's probably 50 people up there.
Speaker 1:Give people a real quick thing. What Pappy Van Winkle is.
Speaker 3:It's a high dollar old rare hard to get whiskey there.
Speaker 1:It's almost impossible to get Real nice Very expensive.
Speaker 3:They may call it bourbon, I call it whiskey, I don't know, but all you gotta know is the word pappy van winkle. So we're sitting there, we'd already had dinner and everybody already had drinks and everybody's full and we're laughing and we're talking and I'm at the end of the table talking to the. I'm not at the end, I'm on the like the longest side of the table but on the end talking to the head of the American Legion, who's sitting at the head of the table. Everybody has already drank a little bit, but we're civilized and everything's good and everybody's happy. And all of a sudden these two guys walk in with tuxedos, speaking of tuxes, but they had white gloves on and they're carrying these bottles. So for them to be wearing gloves, it must be really rare, Like white gloves yes.
Speaker 3:It must be expensive. Whatever bottle they're bringing in, it's got to be expensive. So they come in and I'm not really paying attention. Everybody looks at them and they apparently pop them pour a glass about this size or regular size whiskey glass and they poured about half full and hand it to the guy at the end on the other end and it makes its way around.
Speaker 1:This one glass makes its way around.
Speaker 3:Yeah it makes its way around Like they're going to let everybody sip on it. I mean, we're drinking, that's pre-COVID, everybody's drinking after each other. And so it makes it to me and apparently my wife is sitting on my left and she taps me on the shoulder and I'm talking to the head over here and she taps me and hands me this glass and I just smoke it.
Speaker 1:Where are you in line?
Speaker 3:Like how many down? I didn't even think. Well, apparently nobody had drank any, because the glass was still half full.
Speaker 1:Of course you did.
Speaker 3:I just took it I just grabbed it in mid-conversation and just smoked it Boom and I slammed it on the table and I went back to talking to her. Well, anyway.
Speaker 3:Yeah well anyway, and the room went quiet and I kind of turned around real slow and I'm like what, what? And they go, dude, and I thought they were looking at me because it was so expensive and I just smoked it. I don't know how much that glass was worth, it was a $500 glass of whiskey or whatever it was. And I said what? And then somebody I don't remember who it was they go, dude, that's 144 proof. And I went what? And then somebody I don't remember who it was they go, dude, that's 144 proof.
Speaker 6:And I went well, no, that was 144. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3:And I said, on top of everything else, I'd had to drink that evening. I just said, well, we're fitting to find out what I'm made of. And the night went on and we're talking Go ahead and get that.
Speaker 1:I know we got a little Latin music or something.
Speaker 3:No, it's probably the head of the American Legion and I don't know. About 20 minutes later, I start feeling like I'm not, but I start feeling like I'm sinking into the floor of the room and I'm going through my chair. I'm not drunk, I'm just heavy. That's the room and I'm going through my chair. I'm not drunk, I'm just heavy. That's what he gives he says that so many times.
Speaker 6:He goes K-Lo. And I wasn't even drunk, I was just heavy, I wasn't.
Speaker 3:And I looked over at Lanner real slow and I go, I feel so heavy, I just kept going. And then about that time the dinner was over and everything was over and I just kind of stood up and I just peeled myself. I wasn't stumbling or nothing. It was amazing how awesome I am.
Speaker 6:That's how you remember it.
Speaker 3:It was no no, no, I remember everything. I remember the walk out of the room. I remember the walk down the stairs. I remember walking through Del Frisco's and seeing some famous people and walking out in the street because the hotel was just across the street. I remember everything, but it felt like it took a year to get there. 144 proof. Yeah, you can light it up you guys ever had absinthe. I've had a sip of it. Got the snake in the bottom.
Speaker 1:We were overseas. I don't even think it's illegal here. Death adder.
Speaker 3:Is that the you know, because I don't even think it's illegal here. The death adder, yeah, is that the stuff you're talking about? It's got the death adder in the bottom. It's intense. I've had that, yeah, but that's not even you can't. That's not even drinkable.
Speaker 1:It's actually. It didn't seem like it was drinkable.
Speaker 3:You could, you could. Everything was drink Good gracious, but anyway, that's my first inauguration.
Speaker 1:Was that inauguration night the night before?
Speaker 3:That was the night of the whatever night, the veterans ball was Okay.
Speaker 4:They had four. There was like four main balls.
Speaker 3:Yeah that, go on on inauguration night. It's either. I can't remember if it was inauguration night or the night before. I'm pretty sure it was the night of Okay.
Speaker 1:Hey, let's backtrack. Like a week or so ago. We hadn't really talked about this, but we had a guy on did like a 10-minute short that we put out on our channel, nick Bostic. This was the guy that went in to the burning house like he just saw it, and he had this instinct to go in. It was late at night. He ended up saving and I hate that I don't remember.
Speaker 6:It was either four or five children. I think it was five. It was four or five, counting the baby, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so five, and we just had him on, but we haven't talked about it actually since we had him on. Do you guys have any thoughts about that? It's a pretty amazing story and it happened a couple years ago, but it just got brought to light again through Trump Jr and DC Drano and all that Well, that's why we started the podcast to hear from people like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, in that small town, get your back mentality. So I think that pretty much sums up why we started this. I think, kayla, you had mentioned that, I think on that podcast he's one of the reasons why we started it. Anyway, I thought it was great Small-town American hero like that.
Speaker 3:He deserved the Medal of Freedom and the Medal of Honor. He didn't get anything he should you know the medal of honor? Yeah, is that what he got? Wait, it was. He didn't get anything.
Speaker 3:He should have been the medal of freedom, because I know that drano posted that right when when biden awarded some of the people that really, really didn't deserve the medal of right, and that's what trump the medal of honor and and it's guys like nick bostick that deserved the medal of Honor Small town citizens that don't think and run into burning buildings and not thinking of himself to save somebody else they deserve those kind of medals. I wish those medals were reserved for people like him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6:Because it's so easy, like we were talking about with him, because he barely saw what he thought was a little bit of a flame and it wasn't even a roaring fire at the time. But he kept looking in his rear view thinking, was that a fire? And then he goes back and everything. But it's not like he's in a restaurant and you see something happening right there and you're kind of forced to make a decision. You ask him to do something. This guy turned around, slammed on his brakes and turned around, you know, to go back into a house in a neighborhood he's not familiar with.
Speaker 1:And I say this all the time and I'm half joking, it's like I'm not that good of a person. You would do it.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I know you would. You don't know until you're in that situation, but you do it.
Speaker 1:It's commendable that you know adversity shows character and in that moment, yeah, that was his instinct yeah, and he didn't know.
Speaker 3:He didn't know if there was even anybody in that house. He didn't know if there were. If there were kids in there, then the parents weren't home. He didn't know and he just reacted.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it's amazing and a lot of people might have missed it, not not look, looking as oh, that house is on fire, I'm just going to drive on home. They might have looked in or not even seen it or just go by and say, oh, maybe it's a campfire in the background, you know backyard or whatever. But his, like you say, his instinct drove him back and you know, think about it's like you're.
Speaker 1:You're not breaking into a house, but you, in essence, are. You don't know what's. I know you don't know what's anyone in the back door.
Speaker 1:You don't right it's just man, it's. It's amazing, it's an amazing story. And you guys are mentioning about the song is like you know, sometimes a song gets a little bit of negative connotation to it, um, but that's really it. And you know, there's a lot of defense in the song, like, hey, if somebody's doing this, you know, hey, we'll try that in a small town, see what happens to you. But this kind of act is like we're talking about hey, try that in a small town.
Speaker 3:It's beautiful what he did. Put so much of a bigger meaning on our song 100%. Well, it's where it on our song, a hundred percent. And then what it?
Speaker 6:really within what it was originally.
Speaker 3:Well, it's where it began, though that's right.
Speaker 6:The whole idea came because we didn't like people innocent people, getting hit on the sidewalk for no apparent reason. Then the song became what it was, but that's where it started was. We were irritated from the protect the innocent people getting hurt for no reason and nobody would do anything about it.
Speaker 1:you know so, but I think we should do this, um, because that's such a great story and good stories like that don't get covered enough. Like, if anybody, like if you're listening, you're watching and you know of good stories like that in your town, send them to us. Please. Dm this, uh, send it to us like we will bring those to light, because those need, yes, to be brought to light absolutely so please do that if you're listening.
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Speaker 6:We had to buy it back from Kevin Williams.
Speaker 2:More Kevin.
Speaker 6:Williams, please More eggnog.
Speaker 2:Did we get any? Did it show?
Speaker 3:up. You didn't get anything. You got to take a break first. No, yeah, I'll do it on the break. I'll go down and get the bottle.
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Speaker 1:All right, guys, we're back at the Patriot Mobile Studios. This is the Try that in Small Town podcast. I don't know if we introduced ourselves, but we've got Neil, we've got Kelly.
Speaker 3:What are we doing with first names? Hello Kirk, this is Kirk. No no no, we have nicknames, I like Captain. I like Captain for you.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 3:Thrash K-Lo TK.
Speaker 1:I'm Kirk. We've got Evan here with us. Did you bring Evan?
Speaker 3:I brought him because Kelly wanted a shot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's really good we're yeah Did you bring Evan.
Speaker 3:I brought up because Tully wanted a shot. Yeah, it's really good. We're post-holidays, post-Christmas, but the eggnog is good all year long.
Speaker 6:Look at that bottle. I don't know if it's good all year long Tully's cup.
Speaker 1:I think, he's getting more than a shot.
Speaker 2:The future of the Titans.
Speaker 6:He's going to kill you one day. He is going to kill me. He's going to kill you one day. He is going to kill me.
Speaker 2:He's going to kill you I hope they trade him quick.
Speaker 6:I don't think they're going to trade him.
Speaker 1:Nobody's going to trade for Will Levis. He's not.
Speaker 6:No one wants him. Well, they got a new, didn't they fire the GM or something?
Speaker 1:They did fire the.
Speaker 6:GM. Now what does that mean? Is that a good move?
Speaker 1:Well, it depends I. He did draft well in this, so I guess it's a good move they got rid of him, hey, so the Titans do have the number one pick Real quickly, are they, or should they draft a QB?
Speaker 3:Are you kidding? Is that a serious question? It is, you know that's. I mean, are they going to draft a QB? Well, either a QB or a long snapper.
Speaker 6:But it's not an amazing QB class, right, like next year will be better than this year. But that is true, right, and so that's what people have been saying.
Speaker 1:People are saying the best player in the draft is Travis Hunter, who's the kid from Colorado who plays both ways.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:I thought somebody would make a joke.
Speaker 2:It I thought somebody would make a joke. It was all hanging through.
Speaker 3:I was waiting for somebody to make the joke. I'm cleaning up my act in 25. Go ahead, they need a QB.
Speaker 2:I think you got to. They got to draft a QB. You have to, and sometimes a QB you know. I mean in my you know how I feel about drafting QBs, but you can find a good QB deep in the draft. You can, it's all. Do they have the eyes there to find it? Because they're in there? Look at a Brady, a Brock Purdy, those guys I mean it's all system related, but we need a QB to build around. At least the Titans do. I mean it's been rough.
Speaker 1:Been too long.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah, been way too long have y'all heard the possibility, maybe Aaron Rodgers, for just a minute?
Speaker 1:I mean, I've heard people say that I haven't heard anything that makes me think it's a real possibility. I've just heard Brownlings, which I I would. It'd be fun, I would love it it would be fun you can say what you want to about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3:It would set us back another five years.
Speaker 6:I don't know.
Speaker 2:He's a winner though, yeah, but wait, we're talking about drafting a young QB, bringing Rodgers in for one year to mentor. Yeah, where's that money going to come from?
Speaker 3:You can take him on this trip over to California. Where's that money going to come from Costa Rica?
Speaker 1:Hey, I'll say this have you guys seen the Netflix thing, enigma?
Speaker 2:Yes, you can say what you want about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1:He's very unique. He is his own man, but I was interested. I thought the thing was really interesting. I mean I wanted a little more football.
Speaker 2:It's not that. And a little less of the you know, but hey, I love watching him play football, even now, since he Achilles. I mean, he's not the same, this is obvious to me, but he threw 500 touchdown passes. Now he's an elite company.
Speaker 1:He throws the ball like very few people have ever thrown.
Speaker 2:I love watching him play. He flicks the ball, would you?
Speaker 1:guys want him on the podcast. Do you think we could get Aaron Rodgers on the podcast? I would yeah.
Speaker 6:I mean. I had a chance to be around him for a little bit a few times and Neil and I both really through Brad Paisley, they're buddies Got to smoke a cigar with him, drink beer and listen to a lot of his stuff. We talked about a lot of things like UFOs and everything else.
Speaker 3:It was very interesting To me.
Speaker 6:He was a really nice guy, super normal. Been to his house after a game Monday Night Football that he played, we sipped whiskey and he sat there and he watched the entire game. We all watched it and he commented on every place that I should have done. I should have done that here, should have done that here and we just watched it.
Speaker 4:That's great. Oh no, that's cool. We played pool, drank whiskey and it was really fun.
Speaker 1:That's like bucket list stuff and he did not, he wasn't sitting there.
Speaker 6:God, look at this, I totally missed him. Or he'd say that's how you run that play. It was just really cool To me. He was a fantastic guy.
Speaker 1:I would fan geek over that, actually, because that was cool.
Speaker 2:I love watching good quarterbacks like that, like the greats, the Rodgers, the Brady. Right now, I love watching Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is in that. He's got it To I love watching Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, joe Burrow is in that, he's got it To me. He's that classic QB. Like you can have your scrambling QBs, take them, take your. Jaden Daniels, I know, take them to Mars, because you know what I'm so with you, I'm with you, boy, I'm going down in flames no. I'm so with you on that one. Really, I am not a fan, I can't. It's just a matter If they win you don't think that's the way of the future. Well, I mean maybe a way to a winning season.
Speaker 3:I don't know, it depends, and I'm not promoting it, I'm just asking Do you think Jalen Hurts and the Eagles can win a Super Bowl with Jalen Hurts at the helm?
Speaker 1:I'm not a I like Jalen Hurts as a leader. I don't think he's an amazing quarterback and I don't think the coach is amazing either.
Speaker 2:I don't either, and thank you for saying that. He annoys the crap out of me.
Speaker 6:I haven't watched enough to know.
Speaker 2:You can just tell that the players me. Looking at it, it feels like they don't really respect him. The coach is a little weird. It's a little weird. It's not like when you see Belichick coach. He's in charge.
Speaker 1:How about this? How about Dan Campbell and the Lions? You guys, everybody's got to be a fan of that team, right? Who is not a fan of Dan Campbell? You guys don't watch NFL, do you?
Speaker 3:Yes, absolutely. I don't watch that much. I watch football. I mean, we're college guys, but we do the Lions, that's a good organization to root for.
Speaker 2:to me, I mean, that's a football team.
Speaker 3:Anybody in the NFL can just watch the team play and then go follow them into the locker room and see what's going on in the locker room, see what the vibe's like and see what the atmosphere and the air is like in the locker room. It's all you got to do in the NFL. And now it's creeping its way into college like that too. But the NFL especially. Just go to the locker room after a game or before a game, you can tell who's going to win Wise words urge.
Speaker 6:You know, dale, I thought about something a couple of weeks ago because we, I don't know a few episodes ago, you were talking about on the back of the helmets, things that annoy you in the NFL like the end, racism and things like that.
Speaker 6:I thought about that and we talked about it and I wondered you know, is it? Is it just things that, that that you pick up on, or that other people pick up on, that they don't like? But if it was something that you liked on the back of the helmet, would it be different? Like if it said jesus saves, would you have? Would that be an issue? Because you're saying, hey, they're just putting that on everybody. I just wish they'd play ball. I'm just kind of curious about that. Should they have? Can they have anything?
Speaker 1:you know you remember this though you remember when te Tebow came out and he would kneel and do like a prayer, like after he scored a.
Speaker 6:He got hammered for doing that, but he did because that's who he was.
Speaker 1:You're right, and it's an interesting question, Kalo. It's like are we annoyed because we don't necessarily subscribe to what they're saying? Yeah, and if it did say, hey, praise God. John 3, 16, well, you know whatever?
Speaker 6:Yeah, and then we relate to it, Like if it says, in racism you think I'm not a racist, that offends me because that makes me think that I am. But if it says something that I'm in line with, like hey, go to church on Sundays, or you know, or go Vols.
Speaker 1:Go Vols obviously.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's great.
Speaker 6:So anyway, I was just wondering about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would rather them instead of keeping the division and the divisiveness going, because that's all that's doing.
Speaker 1:There's a difference with that.
Speaker 3:Whether they realize it or not, that's what's going on. I would rather them put help Nick Bostic on the back of their helmet, but you wish other players would do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6:Like do something like that, like if you were playing you might have that on the back of your helmet it would be cool if you have players having different stuff on there which they should.
Speaker 3:And if you're offended, so what?
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Who cares? Go to your safe space if you're offended, because Jesus saves on the back of somebody's helmet is going to offend somebody, correct?
Speaker 6:That was my point.
Speaker 3:There's nothing more offensive in the world than that.
Speaker 6:That was my point. It's not going to offend you, but it will offend somebody.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, it's I wonder, do some people think that's divisive?
Speaker 3:yes, oh absolutely, sure, absolutely that's yeah, I guess because, to some people it's narrow-minded.
Speaker 6:You don't have, you don't have to go there.
Speaker 3:You don't have to do that, you know, yeah, you don't have to. But things like what we had, nick bostick, things like things that matter, real world stuff, things that are really happening, if you wanted, wanted to paint that in the end zone. Let's do something about veterans' homelessness. Let's paint that in the end zone instead of end racism, something that is so minute and so unrealistically. You know what I'm saying? It's not even going on. If it is like I said on the last podcast or one of the podcasts, if it is going on, show us where it is and we'll. We've got your back, but that's yet to happen.
Speaker 6:Or you can paint Daniel Penny in the end zone. Yeah, speaking of try that in a small town, big town. Yeah, the Marine.
Speaker 1:Bring up that story, because that's great it saved a lot of people bring up that story because saved a lot of people.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I mean, it's been, it's been a minute, but yeah, you know, uh, he's a marine and um, and you had a guy you know on the on the subway who who was, who was black, but he was saying things that like I don't care, I don't care if I live today, and just crazy stuff, you know, and uh, and being violent toward other people and so so you know, and again, I don't, I don't know it, it's been through court and everything, but he but Daniel, you know, subdued him, got him on the ground.
Speaker 6:Other people did too black and white helping just hold the guy down, you know, from hurting somebody or himself ends up going to court and all this stuff. And he could have went to jail, you know, for a long time for just for helping people and he, he, and in interviews that are public, you know, he said would you do that again, knowing you know the, the legal, uh, trouble that you could have faced and did face? And he said he's absolutely I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I thought he could injure somebody and I was there to prevent him from injuring someone and I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1:I absolutely did again and that's just another another example of like we, what we try to do and what we're trying to highlight. That is it Right? Yes, helping somebody in need, like when it might not be easy, but but to him it was. Yeah, that's his instinct.
Speaker 6:Yeah, Well, think about it Sorry.
Speaker 2:Caleb, but think about if your son or daughter or mom was on that subway. Yeah, you'd want him. You'd want someone to do something 100%.
Speaker 1:You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean, and that's all he did, and the fact that people even for a second tried to second-guess, that was upsetting a little bit.
Speaker 6:Yeah, and I want to say while we're on obviously unfortunate that the guy died, of course, but you could just tell from everything that was not Daniel, that wasn't his intent to kill the man, that was not his intent Of course, everybody did.
Speaker 6:It just happened in the course of it and you hate that for that guy who obviously he needed help long before he got in that subway and he didn't have help. So you know it's just a really bad situation. But the good part of it is is you had somebody you know trying actually to help the guy who ended up passing from hurting others, hurting himself. And you know and and thankfully you know a jury of his peers you know saw that he was doing a good thing and didn't mean any ill intent.
Speaker 3:So the Daniel Penny well, we're fixing it, I think. I think the whole temperature is going to change in the next four years.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's already started it in the next four years. You think?
Speaker 3:Yeah it's already started, seems like it has. He hasn't even been inaugurated and everything is starting to shift. Trudeau, look at that.
Speaker 1:That's so interesting. Right Gulf of America. There's a lot of things.
Speaker 3:The Gulf of America. That's pretty cool. We're going to attain Greenland.
Speaker 6:Greenland, Canada. I mean, it's amazing.
Speaker 3:But everybody's talking about it you know, I'm just. I'm just hoping the NFL turns it around. I hope they change their tune. I really, really do. I hope we don't have to stare down at all those lies anymore.
Speaker 2:You know I don't think honestly that people even I mean I know bugs you and it's. Yeah, I think most people are just watching the game. I think that's right. You know why it's still there. I'm not I'm not sure seeing the end racism written in huge letters at the. I'm with you. Like there's people. People go there to forget about that stuff. They don't want to think about it.
Speaker 4:It's not existing.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you know, and it's, it's. I agree with you that it's. There's no reason to create tension. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3:Cause it's, it doesn't, I'm not seeing it. No, on a positive note, the Titans fans didn't have to look at it much, that's true. We didn't spend a lot of time in the end zone.
Speaker 6:Indians.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's true, yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 6:I don't know what I'm going to do now. There's a blessing in there, somewhere there's a blessing in there somewhere.
Speaker 1:Jim just sent us a text. And do you remember our friend the Amazing DV? Is that what his name is? Yeah, Amazing DV.
Speaker 3:The Amazing DV, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:My hater. Well, you know, I don't think he's your hater.
Speaker 2:No, he's not my hater.
Speaker 1:But I think he wants to come on. I think he wants to do like a 10-minute conversation with me. Really Okay, does he want to talk?
Speaker 4:to.
Speaker 1:Neil, it might just be a one-on-one, I don't know. Have it out, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Be careful, amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, watch what you wish for.
Speaker 3:I'll break out some scripture on you, bro, be careful. Nah, I think that'd be fun.
Speaker 6:We may want to start that one, remotely, though. I mean I don't know if you bring him right in. He has said some pretty. Maybe we ought to bring Ed on with him. Ooh, yeah, to counterbalance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to counterbalance it Like maybe he can be narrator. It's funny, We'll just let that out. I like that. What else we got? Have we got anything fun? Landman?
Speaker 2:Okay, this is good.
Speaker 1:This is good, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know if I want to. Okay, I was excited to start it. I was too, Gotta watch it. I love Billy Bob, love Jon Hamm. Anyway, got three in. Eh, I'm hearing Gotta watch it. Gotta watch. I love Billy Bob. Yep, love Jon Hamm. Anyway, got three in. Eh, I'm out. Maybe it turns a corner, I don't know. I'm with you. It seemed like it was really trying so hard. I'm with you.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think it was you that brought up the word campy and that's pretty spot on. It's like the only way I could describe it is like dallas it for people that are pretty old but doubt.
Speaker 2:But I remember watching dallas, though, if you re-watch dallas you tell my jr 80. Yes, I am talking about jr, but it wasn't. It wasn't. That was that 80, 45, 86 and I don't know. I mean long time ago this felt like it was.
Speaker 1:I guess my point is it's kind of a soap opera, and if you watch soap operas they're like, okay, that's not believable, okay, this person isn't a good actor. Okay, this isn't, yeah, but there was so many things. I watch it for Billy Bob.
Speaker 3:I do too, and he has a couple monologues that are it's amazing.
Speaker 2:And there's a couple parts in the first couple episodes that I loved. There's because I was like, okay, I'm going to keep going, because there's bits in episodes that I really, like you said, there's monologue and there's a couple scenes that got the oil rig when it explodes and the bit that he goes through, well, why we need oil.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you got to that episode. It's like a two or three-minute thing he's explaining to one of the lawyers.
Speaker 3:Let's talk about what really makes it bad. Okay, at least for me, no daughter talks to their father that way.
Speaker 1:Well, no daughter of ours.
Speaker 3:It was so raunchy and so over the top, I actually disagree. I bet there are daughters that talk to their dads.
Speaker 6:I bet there are, If there are out there. I've never met them. I know it's not your daughters, but I bet there are.
Speaker 3:I mean, I was just like I can't listen to this. This is like I don't know anybody that talks to their father that way, or a father that actually takes it and just kind of shrugs it off. I'm like, what did she just say to him? And like it's like they make it like that's the way the youth talks to their parents today and I'm like, oh my God, it was awful yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'd be horrified if that was I got totally turned off and it got so raunchy and so it was just like I couldn't take it anymore. Okay, what is the best show you're watching right now?
Speaker 2:Well, just finished.
Speaker 1:A great one, okay, mayor of Kingstown, so you've been telling us about this, which is, by the way, another Taylor Jordan show, yeah, and that's why I was disappointed with Landman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's not even the same category and I'm not just talking about I know Landman's a different show. Yeah, but the writing and if you watch Mayor Kingstown it is. So now it's, and obviously it's that's. Mayor Kingstown is more of the kind of show I like. It's gritty, and obviously Mayor Kingstown is more the kind of show I like. It's gritty, more crime-related, it's cool, it's really good, but that's great.
Speaker 3:I'll give Taylor Sheridan a pass because it's probably a lot like writing songs. You're not going to write a standard every time you go in the room.
Speaker 1:What's your favorite Taylor Sheridan show?
Speaker 3:Well, he didn't direct it, but I think he wrote Sicario. Yeah, you were talking about that before it was fantastic, and I was a big fan of Yellowstone too. It had its ya-ya moments.
Speaker 1:Yellowstone was a little soap opera-ish at times too, but it was great.
Speaker 3:I'll treat him like I would like I would. You know writing songs. You know you're not going to hit a smash every time you write a movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just like writing a song. You're not going to write a smash every time you do it and he's on fire, but he's good, he's consistent and he's good.
Speaker 3:He's so.
Speaker 1:He writes a good one. You know what we should do. We should be pitching songs to Taylor Sheridan for his shows. But you know what Good idea Hold?
Speaker 2:on. You don't think we should be. No, we should be Okay. But before I forget, what bugged me about Landman the most, before I want to make it clear is that because there was some really great parts in it. Yeah, why couldn't it just be all good? Yeah, wow, like some was great, some parts were great. I knew I was frustrated.
Speaker 6:Well, it's kind of like a song, Like you don't want every line of the song to be great. You don't know what the great ones are. They got to stand out. You got to write some average lines for the good ones to pop out.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 6:I don't know. I'm still surprised that you didn't say Friends was your favorite. Yeah.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 6:Yeah. That's awesome, but as far as a throwback, though we were talking about it earlier. I got my wife Rachel into watching Breaking Bad. She's never seen Breaking Bad. Ooh, you know.
Speaker 1:Anybody that's not seen Breaking Bad start today.
Speaker 3:One of the greatest written story lines ever. Start today. It's amazing. Start to finish. It's amazing, start today, start to finish.
Speaker 6:It's amazing and it actually got me into watching. That was the first series I'd ever watched and that got me into watching series.
Speaker 1:Heisenberg, breaking Bad. So did you guys watch Tully? Because I didn't know it at the time. Tully first turned me on to Breaking Bad because I didn't watch it when it was out. And then it went to Better Call Saul, oh yeah, which I thought Better went to better call saul, oh yeah, which I thought better call saul was great. That's great. So, yeah, that's fun. Uh, so that's what you guys are watching breaking bad currently.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right, we got a long way to go I'm gonna, I'm gonna shift gears here, okay, uh, I want to talk about some of the writers in town. I don't really know how to get into this segment.
Speaker 6:Well, you're just done, okay.
Speaker 3:But the other day I was at BMG and I was over there with y'all and David Lee Murphy yeah, I don't know what was it A couple weeks ago or something, I don't remember what it was but finishing up a song and we go out into the lobby and we're all standing out there and here come these new writers out of these writers rooms. And it's just been on my mind, guys, and I cannot shake it I love that it has, because I, because I know, I know where I was when I was a young writer and I came to town.
Speaker 3:I know where my head was and I knew I knew stuff. These kids come over there, got their chest bowed out and we're all sitting there talking yeah, yeah, yeah, Blah, blah, blah, Music, rope, bullshit talk. And they look at me and David Lee mainly at David Lee and they go. So what do y'all do?
Speaker 2:No, yes, I was standing there. Hold on, I don't remember this.
Speaker 3:You weren't out there yet. You were probably still behind the computer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was quite a sight, Hold on.
Speaker 6:So Tully was there and they're fawning over him because, of course, and then they asked Well, of course they saw the hair and they thought, okay, he does.
Speaker 3:They just hiss on the huge mural on the wall but they look at me and David Lee like. So what do y'all do? They did not ask that. Yes, they did. These are the new breed of country music songwriters in town people.
Speaker 3:To our listeners out there. This is where their heads are. They don't know their history, they haven't done their research, but they want to come into town and take over town writing country music. And they look at David Lee Murphy and say well, what do you do? They didn't have a clue who he was.
Speaker 1:What did David say?
Speaker 3:And they're not supposed to know who I am. I haven't been out there, but you know. And when you introduce yourself and say your name and it still doesn't click, I think and you want to be a country music songwriter.
Speaker 2:Wow, if my memory's right, I think David said something like man. I spent here a few weeks yeah of course he did.
Speaker 1:And he started just being as cool as he can. I didn't even know that happened.
Speaker 3:Bro, if you'd have been out there you might have gone off, but everybody was kind of. And then Lee Miller and Brett James, and they come walking out and they don't know who they are either, and I'm just like they're in a room right with another artist over here somewhere and and these young writers don't know. When I came to town, I knew who Bob McDeal was. Yeah, I knew who Harlan Howard was. I knew all the greats that came before us, like two generations worth. I knew who they were.
Speaker 3:I actually think they're Because I listened and learned, and before I got to Nashville, I just knew who the guys were that paved the way. Yeah, these numb nuts that come to town now don't have a freaking clue who paved the way.
Speaker 2:I think there's a little bit of a lack I don't want to say it too harshly a little bit of a lack. I don't want to say it too harshly. I'm going to say lack of respect. I don't mean it that harshly.
Speaker 3:It's unintentional though.
Speaker 2:It's unintentional, but there is a little bit of it, and I think the reason is is, I think, streaming and this goes for new artists too. I think it's created a false reality for a young writer, young artist, where it makes them think they've achieved more than they really have. Okay, and I'm not trying to sound harsh with this, but Until they get their paycheck.
Speaker 2:I see it in young artists, especially young artists who may have had two or three songs streaming and maybe they have a song streaming 500,000 a week and to them that means that they're making it or have made it and it.
Speaker 1:Well and and this is unfortunate, but I guess true, whether it's, however you want to categorize it but they write different songs than you guys were writing 20 years ago. I mean, I think we had this conversation on a podcast a long time ago One of your best written songs. Do you think that would be a hit today? Maybe, and maybe not, because it's a different song that becomes a hit today.
Speaker 5:But you've got to know.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit more of a jingle today.
Speaker 3:I didn't bring this up to say these guys should know who we are.
Speaker 2:Not at all.
Speaker 3:They should be more interested in the field that they're getting into A thousand percent they should want to know the history. These young kids should want to learn about the history of Nashville and the history of Music Row and the history of songwriting. If this is what you're going to do, you should want that. Why the lack of desire to know? That is not there, I don't know.
Speaker 6:Well, but I don't mean sorry, go ahead. No, no, finish, finish.
Speaker 3:I didn't bring it up for that I didn't bring it up because I'm pissed. They don't know who I am yeah, no you're just talking about. Anybody that gets into a field should understand the history of you can imagine the look on my face when that, when that kid I thought he was kidding at first I thought it was a joke he said what do y'all do? I know it was classic you got the dust on the bottle standing right here and I'm like, yeah, are you? Oh shit, he's serious.
Speaker 6:This kid does not know well, it's kind of interesting because part of there's a there's a few things. This, for me, part of it is is they don't know how hard it is. Yet they haven't been doing it for 10, 15, 20, 30 years and still making a living at writing songs, which is an act of god in itself. Making money writing songs, it's almost impossible, true, but somehow it's happening, right. Yeah, so they're still in that honeymoon phase of like, oh man, everything we write is going to get recorded and they're really happy.
Speaker 2:I'm going to argue with you, but hang on, hang on, I can't wait to argue, I know I know it's going to happen really quick.
Speaker 5:Hang on, hang on.
Speaker 6:The other thing is it is uh, it's a different generational. You know, it's a lack of respect, just kind of the way younger people are now. They want to do it themselves. They don't want to write a hit song with older guys, they want to write it with their crew.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the thing about it is they don't want to learn how to write a great song.
Speaker 6:Well, they don't want your no, well, or?
Speaker 4:That's the truth.
Speaker 6:I think they don't want their name on with a successful writer because it would be viewed as oh the veterans oh, they're piggybacking, but even at that. So I think that's part of it, which there's nothing wrong with that, even if they didn't want to write with anybody that's made it or been there and done that.
Speaker 3:Even if they didn't, it seems to me that they would want to learn the craft a little bit better and learn the history of the craft a little bit better.
Speaker 6:But if they're getting songs recorded without it this is the only new generation.
Speaker 3:This is the only generation that I've seen that is behaving this way. I agree, I agree with that. It's the only generation, I agree. I agree it's come along.
Speaker 6:That doesn't not give a shit what, who paved the way or how they got, why you're even in that freaking room, but it's kind of working for them you know what I mean, like they're getting solid and they're getting on the radio and it's working for no so here's, here's my it's this.
Speaker 2:And they're getting on the radio. They think it's working for them. No, they're not. So here's, here's my it's. This is what.
Speaker 2:When everything went sideways with COVID and we went to remember, the whole industry changed. We talked about with Tyler Farr, everything changed. I'm with, I'm with Neil. I see this, this new generation of artists and writers and artist writers. They think, putting a song out, we have all these platforms now you can release music as much as you want. The labels sign everything. Labels are signing more acts than ever. Right, and they're putting in their mind.
Speaker 2:This is how I feel about it. They put songs out, they stream, they get to go to social media, they get attention on TikTok, instagram and in their mind, they're successful. They're famous. In their mind, they are doing it. Just a few years ago, okay, you had a radio hit, you had a video and it meant something to hear yourself on the radio. I see people all the time, young artists who had never been on the radio, who I mean you'd think they'd have 20 hits. I mean the way they're acting. I think it's just social media, driving it and streaming. They think they know how to do it. It just I see it on the road with new acts. I see it New writers can't tell them anything you know, but still I'll say it.
Speaker 2:Though, you know, if you're a new artist and you're streaming 500,000 a week and you're like okay, well, I'm going to get a booking agent, you know, go try to sell some hard tickets and see and find out what exactly that means, because that's the other thing. Like what, what does that mean? So anyway, yeah, not trying to sound like an old grumpy uh well, we are, but no, I.
Speaker 2:I would agree with Neil, though, kayla, I feel like this new generation. I feel like they aren't even aware of how it was done. They just think they know they've got to figure it out.
Speaker 3:Well, Kayla and I have written with guys who. We've written with some of these young people that they don't. We've written with some of these young people that I mean they don't. They got booked with us and still did not have a clue what was in the room.
Speaker 1:Really yeah. Now see, that's weird to me.
Speaker 3:It was because their publisher set them up with us, because the publisher knew.
Speaker 6:But then, when the they didn't even yeah, I'm telling you didn't dawn on them, I didn't even. Yeah, I'm telling you like it's dawn on them. I will say it's interesting because, because you know, we've been around for a while, I've been blessed, we've had hits and stuff and and very thankful for it. If I'm writing with a person tomorrow and I don't know their name and I don't know what they've done, I will google them before I get that appointment.
Speaker 6:I want to know oh my gosh what I'm, what I'm telling you and this is in agreeance with this. I will say there's not all, because there's a couple that are very respectful to me as a big fan and things like that, but the majority they don't Google anybody.
Speaker 1:That blows my mind. I actually can't even believe that, and so much so.
Speaker 6:It was about five years ago but it's my favorite story and I won't say who it was, but it was me and another guy Now I can't.
Speaker 5:Now I don't do that. We got to go viral.
Speaker 6:But this is what's funny. This is what's funny. And we're writing with a guy and these two guys were buddies but the one buddy knew me and the other buddy apparently they hadn't talked and we're just talking about ideas throwing around. Who's looking stuff like that? And the younger guy said said man said so I think I've got a Brad Paisley hit. And I was thinking you know, obviously you know and had a lot of Brad hits and you know we're buddies and everything, and he's and I thought he was going to you know say hey, kelly, can you think you can get this idea to him. But he didn't say that. He said I've got a thing. I think it's a for sure Brad Paisley hit. I said it's just like him. I said I think he would say every word of it. He says anybody know a way we can get to him.
Speaker 1:So do you think? That that was like his way to just like not ask you blatantly no, no, no.
Speaker 6:And his buddy said dude, you're kidding, right yeah.
Speaker 4:He goes. You know you're writing with it oh really he goes.
Speaker 6:Oh, you know, brad, and at that point I was like yeah, I mean I don't. Yeah, we lived, he's my next door neighbor and we had 10 number ones. But it was really funny and he was innocent, it wasn't disrespectful, he just didn know. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like so it wasn't purpose. That was my father wasn't purposeful. I know it, that's, but that's my bothers. Like they moved to town with without any knowledge, without any history, without any learning, without any research, and just jump right in the frame.
Speaker 1:That seems weird to me, though you're going into it, right but that was the.
Speaker 6:That was the one that really caught me.
Speaker 3:I went wow that's funny I've been, I've said wow, a lot in the last five years in this town.
Speaker 2:It's pretty funny. It's changed so much. It's you know, see it. Every week new artists come and you get and you can look a couple years ago that new artists that were streaming, that are in social media, that are no longer hardly streaming, they're still on social media trying to be an artist. Yeah, but they're, they're not doing it. It takes so much more than than just, okay, put a song out and okay, you got 100,000 instagram followers or you tiktok or whatever you're doing, but to actually do it it's still. There's a whole nother level. There's such a small.
Speaker 3:yeah, there's such a small percentage of success in the writing world in Nashville and there's even a smaller percentage of guys who are still doing it. As long as we've been doing it, I had a young writer, we're still hanging in there.
Speaker 6:I mean for sure I had a young writer say something to me a couple months ago.
Speaker 2:She goes yeah, I've got some stuff streaming. I've heard that radio pays a little bit more.
Speaker 1:No, somebody I mean you can't be that oblivious they are and I said, yes, that's true.
Speaker 2:You know how do I get to radio? I'm like, okay, I don't even know how to speak. What are you talking about, anyway?
Speaker 1:They don't really know Anybody got anything else it's a good one.
Speaker 3:You kind of jumped all over. That was fun. Did you get some eggnog Tully?
Speaker 1:No, but I think he's going after.
Speaker 3:It's still cold. Evan Williams, if you're out there, we still love your product, yeah yeah, I mean even after the holidays we've been hitting you up, evan.
Speaker 1:Where's the response? Come on another sad.
Speaker 2:No, no, go on our, on our, you know. No tattoo for kurt, no rv no rv, no evan, we can't muster up five bottles of evan williams and we know it.
Speaker 6:But I mean, heck, november's going to be here soon, evan.
Speaker 1:It's a fact, guys, we really appreciate you. Thank you for hanging out with us For Neil.
Speaker 3:Well, first name Kelly.
Speaker 1:For Tully, for Kurt.
Speaker 3:God, listen here, listeners. This 25 is going to be, it's going to come alive.
Speaker 1:Neil, bring us out. You brought us in, bring us out.
Speaker 3:It's going to come alive in 25. We have to thank our listeners.
Speaker 1:Come alive in 25? Yes, you just got a slogan. Let's put that on our shirt. It's happening.
Speaker 3:It's happening and we want to thank our listeners for hanging with us. And keep hanging with us, because it's going to get real interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got some great guests this year. We're thankful for where this journey has taken us. Woo, let's go.
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