Try That in a Small Town Podcast
In 2023, Jason Aldean's groundbreaking song and video "Try That In A Small Town" resonated with a resurgence of conservative values in America. The writers of the song, Kurt, Neil, Tully, and Kelley, took the opportunity to launch the Try That In A Small Town Podcast. This platform allows them to reveal the true inspiration behind the song and discuss the importance of common-sense values. With a lineup of influential guests, the hosts will entertain you with the stories behind their music, while also addressing challenging topics affecting our communities and country.
Try That in a Small Town Podcast
Listener Questions, Grammy Insights & Random Skills :: Ep 42 Try That in a Small Town Podcast
Could Grammy voters from Nashville and beyond really have swayed the vote for Beyoncé? We kick off with this intriguing question and take you on a ride through the often amusing realities of household chores. From the joy of making the bed to the universal dread of the dishwasher, we share personal tales of solitude and the quirks of daily life that emerge when our wives are away. Household chores never sounded so entertaining!
Next, we dive into the unexpected twists and turns of the music industry. Sharing stories from songwriting sessions, we recount how songs we doubted became hits and express regret over tracks that never saw the light of day. Alongside, Trevor Noah's cryptic Grammy comments spark a lively discussion on his future in hosting. We also explore the ongoing dialogue around COVID-19 with insights into personal vaccine experiences, while pop culture moments, like Travis Kelsey's relationship with Taylor Swift, serve as a backdrop to the conversation.
Amidst the humor and banter, we touch on the healing power of shared stories on Brad Warren's podcast and the unexpected evolution of our facial hair. For music lovers, we explore how social media shapes today's artists, while reminiscing about rock and roll mishaps that once inspired creativity. Rounding off with our Super Bowl predictions, we debate football news and dream up typing contests, promising a fun-filled episode packed with laughter, nostalgia, and perhaps a few surprises.
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So what I want to know with the Beyonce thing is there's a lot of people in Nashville that have Grammy votes. They get to vote. Do you guys think anybody in Nashville voted for Beyonce?
Speaker 2:That was my next question. I was like what are the people in Nashville? How much pool do they have?
Speaker 1:What household chore do you enjoy? This is riveting, like vacuuming.
Speaker 2:No, believe it or not, it's really. It's a household chore, but it's outside. I pick up dog no, you don't.
Speaker 3:I wish you lived in my house. No, you don't. Oh, yes, I stepped in it well, well, I can't keep up
Speaker 1:all the time maybe because some of these artists that sometimes they get out there live and it doesn't translate. That's a fact.
Speaker 4:Or, worse than that, you find out who they really are. Labels spend two years propping these artists up and they're not ready for it, and they were never ready for it. No, you don't want to name names.
Speaker 2:I don't, let's go viral.
Speaker 5:The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.
Speaker 6:Try that in a.
Speaker 1:Small Town All right Welcome back. I know I couldn't come in with a straight face. Welcome back to another episode of the Try that in a Small Town podcast coming to you from the Patriot Mobile Studios. We've got Thrash with a touchdown. I got my Patriot Mobile Studios. We've got Thrash with a touchdown I got my Patriot Mobile hat on. You do, there you go, got Kalo with the Try that and a Small Town Podcast hat. Hey, you can get those on our site.
Speaker 2:We need to push them, sell those. We want y'all to buy them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they come in all sizes, they fit great, and TK, he's got no merch on tonight, not tonight. Yeah, been wearing it out lately Every day. You know, neil, you look good tonight. What is it I got?
Speaker 2:to tell you, you know when your wife leaves town.
Speaker 1:Yeah, actually.
Speaker 2:Like the first half hour. You know when she leaves and you kiss her goodbye and she's gone. And the first half hour you're sitting there and you got your snacks laid out and I was like this is gonna be awesome. It's just you and the dog. You got the whole house yourself. Awesome. After that 30 minutes it's like when you've been happily married for 30 years and so you realize real quick, I can't do this alone.
Speaker 1:You know what You're right. I always think it's going to be great. Catch up on some TV. Watch what I want to watch. Eat what I want to eat, and that house is silent. Oh, it's not really good, it's not good, TK, you're actually going through that right now too right, well, yeah, but my daughter's been home, the youngest daughter's there, you just realize quick how much they do Maybe that's it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and Alyssa didn't really care for him, so it's different.
Speaker 4:The dishes don't make their way into the dishwasher by themselves.
Speaker 1:No, there's that.
Speaker 2:Tricky stuff like that. What would Tully's house look like?
Speaker 1:by himself. Tully's clean. He's actually really clean you ever seen.
Speaker 3:Breaking Bad. Remember when Jesse goes dark? I feel like that's what it would look like.
Speaker 2:But you can't really say I mean, you have a newborn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's not a lot of alone times, but yeah, same thing. I eat all the bad things that I usually wouldn't eat because you get out of your norm, then you feel really bad about it and you think you're going to stay up and watch movies. You really don't. You just click around, you don't.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you're going to stay up late yeah.
Speaker 1:But not really. It's a lonely time.
Speaker 2:I migrate from the living room to the bedroom. I don't unmake her side, I just unmake my side. She's not dead.
Speaker 3:I know she's just in Birmingham, I know, but I still I'm not that far.
Speaker 2:The only reason I do it is because I won't have to make it up in the morning. I see All. I got to do is fold my side back up and throw a couple of throws.
Speaker 1:Do you make the bed?
Speaker 2:when she's not.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, I just leave my side undone. But you do make the bed quite a bit. I do just when she's home, yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's one of the keys to successful people is to make your bed in the morning. Oh it is. I would rather not, but I do it anyway.
Speaker 2:I hate doing dishes. I hate loving the dishwasher. What household chore do you enjoy? This is riveting, like vacuuming. No, believe it or not, it's a household chore, but it's outside.
Speaker 4:I pick up dog shit. No, you don't, I wish you lived in my neighborhood. No, you don't, I stepped in it. Well, I can't keep up all the time. What are you doing out back? Anyway? I walk five feet outside and I step in a big pile of Hank's leftovers Serves you right for not watching where you're going.
Speaker 2:It was dark, Well, take a light. I mean anyway, but I love
Speaker 3:picking up dog crap You're getting in my entertainment space I love picking up dog crap.
Speaker 2:Okay, I do because I love my yard to be Now, the dogs can play without stepping in anything. We can come out here and walk around and not have to look, and I don't enjoy it. But I like getting the yard clean. I hate loading the dishwasher. I hate doing laundry. I hate any of that. All of it, I hate it.
Speaker 1:What do you eat? I do Sw not here. Or has she pre-made you meals? No, she has not. Sometimes she will. But she?
Speaker 2:I think she does no she leaves a couple of pizzas in the freezer. Okay, and I won't eat. I'll eat half of it at last I can. I can stretch out a pizza for a couple days one.
Speaker 3:I can't do that. It's gonna be gone in one setting.
Speaker 4:No, me too oh my god, it's just like it's just like a bottle of wine, it's a single serving.
Speaker 1:What do you got?
Speaker 3:What was that? No, I was just saying. A pizza is just like a bottle of wine, it's a single serving Nice. Hey, Caleb, I saw you posted a video tonight For some.
Speaker 1:I wasn't talking about myself necessarily. What's that? Sorry, we're going to try to do a little fan appreciation episode In a minute. Also, we're going to talk about some interesting things that may have happened this week. Neil, yeah, did you guys watch the Grammys last night? Yeah, yeah watched some of that. Yeah, I watched it. I actually didn't watch it, but I've heard. Does anybody want to start this thing off? I didn't watch it, but I've heard. Does anybody want to start this thing off? I didn't watch it and no one should be surprised.
Speaker 4:I'm surprised, we're surprised. That's what I'm surprised about.
Speaker 2:True, it's true, but they just keep on. Which part of not being surprised Beyonce winning the?
Speaker 4:country. I mean, that shouldn't surprise anybody. They shouldn't? You're right, that's what the Grammys do.
Speaker 1:You're right, you're exactly right, that's what they do. They are notorious.
Speaker 2:I was ready to go off and you're correct.
Speaker 4:But that's why I don't. I mean, I used to love watching the Grammys.
Speaker 1:Long time ago.
Speaker 4:I mean yeah, long time ago.
Speaker 1:Once we realized it was getting more and more, I guess politically correct. Is that even what it is? I don't know. It is now.
Speaker 4:The Grammys are a joke. No, I will say we had an amazing time one year at them. We played with Kelly Clarkson, don't you want to?
Speaker 1:stay. So how long ago was that? Over 10 years ago?
Speaker 4:Yeah, and it was great because that year Bruno Mars had just hit big Springsteen was there, mccartney was there, and it was really cool. That's legit, but it was really cool. It feels like that it's gotten a little bit off the rails.
Speaker 1:But I mean, if I remember right, that year Don't you Want to Stay was up for a Grammy, right yeah, and we lost two. Do you remember who? Who is this good? The Civil Wars, do you guys remember? But I thought we lost.
Speaker 4:That's the next.
Speaker 1:Grammy we lost.
Speaker 4:When we produced Thompson Square.
Speaker 1:So we lost that one.
Speaker 4:yeah, I thought we lost that one to the Civil.
Speaker 1:Wars. Okay, maybe that was it.
Speaker 4:I'm not sure who we lost to Clarkson thing too, but I think kiss me or not was up for song of the year and we lost his civil wars, which they were good but still not not. I mean we were having commercial success, yeah.
Speaker 2:They don't go by that I've lost it, lost a.
Speaker 3:Grammy. Also, what song did you have? It was not too long ago, I think it was 2002 or 2008.
Speaker 1:2002 or 2008? It's around there.
Speaker 3:It was a while back, but no it was Joe Nichols the song the Impossible, I will say and it was up for Best Country Song. But one thing that has improved is that the country categories weren't even televised years ago. So at least they're televised now. Well, it's because they're giving it to Beyonce.
Speaker 4:Yeah well, I don't know if that was. I don't know if they want to be televised.
Speaker 1:So what I want to know with the Beyonce thing is there's a lot of people in Nashville that have Grammy votes. They get to vote. Do you guys think anybody in Nashville voted for Beyonce?
Speaker 2:That was my next question. I was like, what are the people in Nashville?
Speaker 1:How much pull do they have, or were they?
Speaker 2:getting pushed to vote for Beyonce, I guess my question is how can they allow that to happen? Yeah Over Laney Wilson or Stapleton or somebody like that.
Speaker 3:Well, you'd have to think, though, that there would be more voters in all the other genres mixed together and just country over here.
Speaker 2:Obviously there has to be so.
Speaker 3:If you're all the other genres, you're going to vote for the name that you recognize, and if you're all those other genres, even as laney wilson, as big as she is, they may not know she is, as opposed to beyonce well and beyonce would come up first before before laney wilson. Beyonce would come up first before Lanny Wilson, she would come up first.
Speaker 1:So sometimes you just kind of yeah, and a little inside baseball is people just don't vote for who they want. It's a political thing. And you say hey, you guys over here, can you guys vote for my artist, and then we'll reciprocate with something else Everything's political. If you don't think everything's political, you're naive.
Speaker 2:I will always believe that Beyonce wanted to do a country record because she just wanted to stick it to them. She's like I'll always believe that she said, hey, watch this, I'm going to go make a country record and watch what happens. And everybody in Nashville just kind of you know, they stepped aside. It's Beyonce, we better get out of the way. And she just came in. Do you really think she likes country music? Do you really think she listens to?
Speaker 6:it.
Speaker 2:I think she just came in here. Just hey, watch what I can do, watch how much power I have. I'm going to do a country record.
Speaker 1:It's going gonna be huge jay-z's coming after you. Whatever, but they were successful they pulled it off.
Speaker 4:Well, it is a little interesting, though, how this town and this we just opened the doors, you know, I mean post malone and he's he's killing it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, and, and I think he truly loves country, I think I think he does too, but it, but it's interesting and taylor swift can come back whenever she wants and it that's fine too. You know, success is success and you can't argue. You know, post Malone doing a country album he's been touring on. That Amphitheater is an arena, so good for him. I haven't listened to the Beyonce country album, have you, caleb? I haven't heard it. No, no.
Speaker 1:I didn't hear the album, Obviously. I heard the one song.
Speaker 2:I just felt like she was making fun of Nashville. It just felt that way. Post Malone seems authentic. He seems like he genuinely loves the music that comes out of Nashville. Hers felt like she's just poking fun at us. It just felt that way to me. It's just me.
Speaker 1:Well, did you guys see Kanye's entrance to the red carpet? I did.
Speaker 4:I saw the news this morning. So he accomplished that as well. You didn't see it? No, his wife was basically naked. Not even basically yeah, she had a sheath on or some sort of see-through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't even know if they got in the building actually.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 1:So they went to the red carpet and she's wearing nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 4:And now we're talking about it. So mission accomplished. Yeah, that's exactly it, I mean.
Speaker 2:But they didn't go in like that. Oh they tried.
Speaker 1:Jim says they were escorted out, escort being the keyword.
Speaker 4:Interesting. It was a nice dress.
Speaker 1:Hey, do you guys know that host of the Grammys? What's his name? I didn't watch it. He's a comedian, isn't he? He's got a talk show too.
Speaker 2:He does a late night show or something.
Speaker 1:Well, he, I saw said, since there's a new administration in Washington, this might be my last time hosting.
Speaker 2:I didn't actually understand what that meant. What did he mean by that?
Speaker 1:Well, one can only assume.
Speaker 2:Because of his color. I think, so Okay, I think so. I didn't really catch that. So what's he afraid of Exactly?
Speaker 4:What's going to happen?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I wish I knew these answers.
Speaker 2:What is going to happen when there's somebody there he goes? What's going to happen to you, dude? Seriously, you know what that stuff is entertaining, because the only reason I watched it just to see how many political jabs they were going to take yeah, you know. And how, how bizarre the music and the the show was going to be.
Speaker 1:And it never lets you down, it never fails. Yeah, jim just said it's trevor. Noah, I actually didn't oh yeah I didn't even. I don't even actually know who that is, but yeah, I'm, I've seen him on time.
Speaker 4:I don't know, jim, do you know what show I I can?
Speaker 1:I can see his face okay, so he's at least got some kind of resume. Oh, yeah, he does. Yeah, like I said, I've been out of the grammy thing for a while. I just I saw the news and wanted to get your guys opinions on it well, he made a comment, we could go on and on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he made a comment on the big pony. I think I forget what it was he said. That's about when I was coming in is when the chapel she had performed and it was the big. I guess it's the pink pony.
Speaker 2:I'm colorblind, but I think it was pink.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the pink pony, he said something about it. He said something about my Little Pony or whatever. That old jingle I, he said something about it. He said something about my little pony or whatever. And that that old, that old, you know the, the jingle, you know, yeah, I mean, you had one of those back in your kid. You know, my little pony, my little pony, I love to brush her hair. Remember, didn't you have one of those?
Speaker 4:Oh God Wouldn't that, that two sponsors.
Speaker 3:Thanks, kaylo but that's just what I thought of when I saw the pink pony uh, by the way, just for housekeeping.
Speaker 1:Uh, trevor noah hosted the daily show and was a yeah on some late night, that's right yeah, um, all right, what about some questions? We got any questions. Somebody got them written down.
Speaker 3:I had an old one that I want before I forget okay I'll go back over to. It was back when we had Pete on and our punk rock drummer, friend right.
Speaker 2:Pete.
Speaker 3:Perocco, who got fired because he had an illness and he couldn't take the COVID shot right Offspring fired him Right. So anyway, so we had somebody after that and I was going to comment on that night. My wife wouldn't let me. And it's from the name is Guardian Overseas and it says you're still talking about COVID, get a life. I'm thinking well, we're still talking about it because that's our guest. He got fired because of it and that's why we're talking about it.
Speaker 1:So it's not like we're just randomly talking about COVID Today's COVID night. Was that a comment on like during that episode?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was just like right after it and it just kind of stuck with me for a while.
Speaker 2:I got to read those more I do. I need to get on after our episode.
Speaker 6:That's what I do during snack time at night.
Speaker 3:Try it when they're putting the baby down, do you?
Speaker 1:guys know anybody like that and we probably asked this before, but during covid that was very insistent on that side of the fence. That has since said man, I guess I didn't know all the information right and apologized, or no, I think I don't know.
Speaker 4:I feel like they're sticking to their guns. Yeah, I think they're, you know, going down with the shit. You know what I mean. But I have, you know, like people like myself who you know asthma, you know, had my whole life. I was worried about COVID initially, so I got the. I got the first shot. You know what I mean, because I was. You know, I've known a couple of people that had an issue getting COVID and asthma so, and since then I've been like crap. I wish I wouldn't have gotten that first shot. I know a lot of people that have got the first one that said, nah, didn't need it, right, you know. But I know people have got like six shots now and they're still, I mean, they'll get whatever shot Travis Kelsey tells them to get Boom.
Speaker 1:It's awesome.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, he didn't respond to my text about the pickleball, so I'm going to fire some jabs out on my guys.
Speaker 1:I remember that we're supposed to have a challenge. It's about the season Now that he's with Taylor.
Speaker 4:He can't be friends with us anymore because he's with Taylor. That's what it feels like, Travis.
Speaker 3:Maybe he'll take enough of those shots over the course of the next 20 years and it'll weaken him to where y'all can possibly have a chance.
Speaker 4:Aaron Rodgers, but aaron rogers called the mr pfizer, which is still my favorite nickname. I liked aaron's thing.
Speaker 1:What was it? He was on mcafee. You know he does that weekly spot with pat mcafee and I forget whatever everybody was responding to. But he said okay, from now on, when you respond to this, you first have to acknowledge which booster you're on, because that'll let me know where you stand.
Speaker 4:Hey, you know what there was in the beginning. And Kayla, what's the guy's name that's mad about? Covid Guardian of Seas. Guardian of Seas will be mad at this. We're talking about COVID Guardian Overseas, sorry, so he'll know Overseas for sure. When COVID happened, though I do remember, I mean I was a little nervous about it just because on, no, yeah, I think everybody you know. And then once you get you know, like you realize now, like wow, we just lied to and I'm glad I only got one shot, yeah, but people still, they're still getting them.
Speaker 4:I mean still getting them.
Speaker 2:I mean, you can, yeah, you know, I wish them well, I do, yeah, nothing, you're right, I hope nothing bad happens to those people.
Speaker 4:We need to try that in a small town booster it's it's, it's a crown royal in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's got crown roll, it's got.
Speaker 3:Maybe it's got some a little hand sanitizer mixed in there celsius crown and hand sanitizer it's got a little mosquito repellent, because mosquitoes get really bad. Hey, it might work better than the actual vaccine. It works great when you sweat.
Speaker 2:It's great. Hey, what's that question Ed sent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just trying to read it, number two is a good one.
Speaker 2:Number two yeah, question number two Can you read it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got your glasses on.
Speaker 2:It says given the amazing success you guys had writing, try that in a Small Town, tough Crowd, and Rather Watch you on the Highway Desperado album. How much writing have you done together since and any chance we see some of your songs on Aldine's next album or for some other artist?
Speaker 1:That is a very timely question.
Speaker 2:It is, I know it.
Speaker 1:Considering we're, going in next week.
Speaker 2:to finish, that's completely up to hell.
Speaker 3:Dave, I sent that.
Speaker 1:Did you tell Ed to send?
Speaker 4:that question, I will be the first to say I am sad and disappointed that we hadn't written enough together all four of us, that's true.
Speaker 4:I think a lot of that could be concentrating on the podcast and just everybody being busy and everybody's been busy, this you know year um we have all we have wednesdays down now, so we're starting to get a little bit we need we need, we do need to remedy that, because that actually, as, as we look back on it was, it was like something I'm not really happy about, the fact that we had a good run of great songs and we just kind of you know, and it's no one's fault, but it just happens sometimes. I mean me, neil and Kurt have written 75 songs this year, right.
Speaker 3:We got a bunch on the record Right. Meanwhile I paid for the podcast equipment Great, but we'll reimburse you for the podcast equipment Great, we'll reimburse you with the money from our song, y'all are blessing me. You're welcome, you're so welcome. Hey, how about taking this idea and the podcast?
Speaker 1:equipment. Thanks a lot, Ed See what you started.
Speaker 2:Man, I haven't written 75 songs ever in a year and I brought you guys spiked eggnog.
Speaker 3:What a fool did you get, thinking it would work?
Speaker 4:no, seriously, though, it's a great um. It's a great point, though, that we have not written enough the four of us which is insane, because it's obviously is very successful. So we will fix that. Things to work on.
Speaker 1:It is things to work on. I just see one from Kimberly. This actually is a pretty good one, and it makes me think of one of y'all's songs. Have any of you had a song that you've written that you weren't sure about or even disliked, but it ended up recording and turns out it's one of your favorites? Anybody got one Bunch of them, I know you told me about one, lots of them.
Speaker 2:Give me one. Well Night Train number one.
Speaker 1:That's what I was thinking, because I've heard you say that I didn't?
Speaker 2:I mean I just, we wrote it so fast.
Speaker 1:And the funny thing is that's such a great song. I mean, it's such an awesome song. It's probably good.
Speaker 4:It's probably good now, and I saw it after the fact because we didn't think we just go, we just went you know, we just wrote you and Michael Delaney, right, yeah, but the way it got cut was really interesting, though I've told you this before that it was we were producing Lee Cook and the and it came in as a pitch for her and then we listened to it and Aldine's like I love that, that's how that, that's how that happened, which was you never know in this time.
Speaker 1:yeah, it's a great song, you don't?
Speaker 2:flower states wasn't, was a song that was I remember being that was one of my ones that I yeah, that was like, yeah, you knew that was a great song.
Speaker 4:But I remember that, that back in the old days and CD was lying around and that was on our bus for a while, oh yeah, like years, a few years of just laying around, you know, yep.
Speaker 1:Anyway, kayla, do you have a song that you maybe didn't think was great or didn't necessarily like? Say it, tully.
Speaker 3:Say it.
Speaker 3:I love all Kayla's songs. I know Tully Say it. I love all K-Lo songs. I know Tully will say it, say it. No, I'm not going to say it. You know what I love that song? No, I'll say this. There's not one. That was a radio hit that I thought, oh my gosh, I can't believe that never had a chance. There are a couple that I wondered what would happen once it got out there. You know, like one of Tully's favorites, tix, I didn't know, like no way would I say, oh for sure, that's a slam dunk, that's an absolute smash right. But I didn't know that, you know. But like others where you'd think, all right, that's right down the middle, everybody, nobody would hate that right. So I'd say that's probably maybe one of them.
Speaker 2:I don't know so many. So you think all your songs are hits. Is that what you're saying? I don't. You thought all when you got done writing them, all of them were hits I mean I'm not ashamed of any of them or that. Well, I mean but that wasn't the question. Well, it's like like, do you have one that was like that ain't never getting cut, that's whatever next.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I don't know, I'd have to ponder it, I'd have to ponder. I don't know that anything that's been a single that I think I never thought that'd be recorded because the subject matter I'm not sure I don't think so Interesting. I'm not sure I don't think so Interesting. I mean I'm thankful, I'm just not, I don't know that anything's been. You're thankful for every one of them. Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 2:There's a handful of them. I'm like that'll never get cut. It's not good enough. I guess my bar is like way up here, I guess, and I way overthink stuff I have to yeah that, yeah, that's part of your, that's part of your thing and it works. I'm trying to get. I'm trying to get better at it.
Speaker 3:There's still, but you, kurt, but you.
Speaker 4:Kurt, I don't know any songs that you know. I just realized what you do a great job. You kind of you're the host of the podcast. Really, he's Captain.
Speaker 1:Kirk, I don't want to be the host, but you kind of are yeah, yeah, but no one ever asked you questions.
Speaker 4:Let's ask you a question. Let's wow, do you have any? Songs on kirk yeah no, after granger asked granger that was awesome, by the way that was we love great episode.
Speaker 1:Are y'all skipping that question?
Speaker 4:I am, you see how I did that no, I see how I deflect and move any songs that that have been recorded that you've been like. I can't believe that I got caught. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Help me, because we write everything together.
Speaker 4:Yeah, honestly, I mean, I think I'll speak for you again. Thank you, um, I think if we don't like something, we just don't write it. Yeah, I think if we don't like something, we just don't write it. Yeah, we erase these days, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I've done that a lot. You know, I've got a bunch of just yeah titles that are sitting there that I'm like nah, I'm not going after that.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I mean no-transcript, neil, because you're really hard on yourself. Are there songs that have been recorded that you feel should have been singles?
Speaker 2:Oh God. That list is longer than any other list, like two or three. Oh God, you mean start with Aldine. I want to start with one of yours.
Speaker 3:You want to start with.
Speaker 2:Aldine, yeah, whatever you want.
Speaker 1:I see you. When I see you, I have no agenda.
Speaker 2:I see you is like it's like that should have been, and I think even Aldean regrets not putting it out.
Speaker 1:Feel that again. I used to love that song.
Speaker 4:Feel that again Staring at the sun See you when I see you. What happened? That was just on a stacked album. That's what happened to that song, because that was a. I mean you had two singles off that album, right? I don't remember? Yeah, well, I feel I believe you did. I believe flapper states and tattoos tattoos so I mean, and then we had you know that you know dirt anthem yeah, party, uh, party. Yeah, you want to stay? Yeah, a lot of yeah. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So like, you ran out of album record and that and otherwise, because there's three albums worth of songs on flats and aldine that then, in my mind, should have been singles, because I just they were they were just great songs and I'm not trying to toot my own horn.
Speaker 3:I just knew they were great songs sometimes you can see like, for example, feel that again, which I don't. I don't know that song, but that might not have been a single. Just because imagine the strip ad, it reminds me of that song. Like if you have jason aldean, feel that again. You remember the song. I don't know who the artist was, but it's years ago and it was, I don't know. Let's say it's jake smith holding my own and it was a big strip ad on billboard see, I love.
Speaker 2:this is what I about, caleb.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry to interrupt and I'm like, does he not have any friends, anybody at the record label that says hey, dude somebody might think of that.
Speaker 2:Caleb will see a title and go how's that going to look on a strip ad? And that's really I mean before the song's even written. He's like it'll look good on a strip ad, but imagine that on an 18-wheeler.
Speaker 3:No, that's not why. I know why, but I get it. I don't know. I don't know the guy, I know that was the guy.
Speaker 4:Simple, because back in those days Jason, like Benny Brown, would have a big hand and allow the singles that were picked. That's true. Still, jason had a little more control at that point. But still, and there was other I remember, um, one of my most, which I can't stand this moment. I hate that we did it, uh, 1994. I knew you were gonna say that you want to tell that I do want to tell it, and then it's our podcast, so I can do whatever I want to do joe, joe.
Speaker 4:Joe Diffay. Here's what happened. I remember when that song came in after Dirt Ride Anthem, jason kind of broke down a lot of walls with that song. But the thinking like a label does the label's like oh, we need another one of those. And I told I remember and Jason will tell you this I remember me and Kurt talking to him and we said, man, we heard the demo, don't cut this. If you cut it they're gonna want to do something with it, because it just reminds them of what you know. It's something in their mind that's different.
Speaker 4:And he goes oh man, no, we'll make benny happy. Cut it, you know, and we'll just be on the album as a cool thing. I said, no, this is going to be, they're going to push it and that's what happened. Cut it and it knocked songs like Feel that Again off and it kind of stalled the entire album because the Night Train record was good 1994 was the first song, and I don't know how many.
Speaker 1:He had a string of number ones number one, number one, number one, number.
Speaker 4:Now, 1994 came out streak over there's another song of yours that I didn't make top 10 I actually even more so than feel that again was talk. Uh, that's another good song that was really cool but but we kind of stalled. We we hit a a road bump in 1994 and it's a tough pill to swallow. Now. It's like we played that for a little bit what a tour or so, yeah and suffered through it. And it was just the first moment where like, uh-oh, I think we might've stubbed our toe.
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Speaker 6:Well, I've been thinking about you all day, baby, waiting on that sun to go down. Well, you say I pick you up after work. You slide over. We slip out To the outskirts of town. I got a blanket and a fifth of comfort. Slide on over A little something to knock off the edge. It's supposed to get a little cool tonight. Looks like I'm gonna have to hold you tight About a mile off Homeville Road. That spot, nobody knows. We'll park the truck and we'll take off running. Hurry up, girl. I hear it train.
Speaker 1:Oh, you milk that. I love it. That was Neil Thrasher with Night Train.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, phlegm Thrasher.
Speaker 1:That's a song that you didn't think was great. I mean, you get chills listening to that thing. Where else are you going to hear? Well, actually, I'll tell you where else you might hear something to that thing. Um, where else are you gonna hear? Well, actually, I'll tell you where else you might hear something like that. Let's talk about this. I just thought about this. You just went on the god's country podcast. Right, let's talk about that, because that was awesome that you did that?
Speaker 2:yep, those guys had me on and, uh, we talked hunting, golfing and songwriting.
Speaker 1:If you haven't seen, it, check it out, because that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Those guys are great oh yeah, yeah, yeah, dan and reed is will are awesome dudes and they're really good and we should probably have them on sometime I think so too be fun. Oh yeah, they're. Uh, they had. They've written some luke comb stuff and they've had a bunch of stuff out there what song did you do on their podcast?
Speaker 2:I think I did a little bit of night train because they loved that one. We did some fast cars and freedom they had me do. Well, uh uh, reed sang, uh, how country feels I just sat there and played it he made me sit there and play it. Why? Because he wanted to sing it and it was awesome. It was awesome, that's cool.
Speaker 1:but, yeah, we encourage you guys to check out. Just check out their podcast in general and, of course, neil's episode. That's awesome. We, we champion those guys. And speaking of podcasts, I want to go back a little bit to Tully. You did Brad Warren's podcast a little while ago and he also has an incredible podcast too and talk about that experience a little bit too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, brad's podcast is really that experience a little bit too. Yeah, brad's podcast is really um, it was interesting because his podcast deals a lot of like healing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's uh? Tell people the name of his good grief, good god, yeah, yeah um, and it's if you haven't watched any of them, it's great.
Speaker 4:And what's? What's crazy about that? He, he had me on there. We go way back with Brad and his brother, to the 90s, with those guys. And what was interesting about that is I knew he wanted to talk about Vegas a little bit, which I never talk about, and I did and it was interesting because it was.
Speaker 4:I think maybe because we go so far back, I felt a little more comfortable. So that was a actually found myself forgetting that it was being filmed. Yeah, and I think, which is kind of cool, go ahead Because he'd been through. You know, brad, you know, lost his son and him and his wife. They do their best to try to use that to help others and anyway, that was a like I really did forget it was being filmed and um, in which I think it's kind of cool when you're that comfortable which I which I think we try to do here when we have people on is to make it comfortable and realize that you know you can just kind of be yourself and 100, uh, you guys make sure you check out those episodes, because that's great, neil on god's and realize that you can just kind of be yourself 100%.
Speaker 1:You guys make sure you check out those episodes because that's great Neil on God's Country and, of course, Tully on Brad.
Speaker 4:We'll have Brad on too, because Brad and Brad, they're both great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're both on. Have them both on, absolutely and some talented boys too, that'll be amazing.
Speaker 4:They're great and they're funny, yes, fun and be, absolutely, yeah, some talented boys too. That'll be amazing. They're great and they're funny. And, yes, you know, but but brad's really, um, you know, I think when he went through losing his son, I think, I think you know, it all obviously changed him, and you in, of course, you, you never the same, yeah, after so I mean, we know, we know a few guys that have lost kids Casey Beathard.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's Jeffrey Steele. Yeah it's, I can't imagine it and having, like I said, when I was on his podcast, it was actually. I actually thanked him for having that platform because I never really talked about it, just with a friend of mine like that, and I realized a lot of stuff came out that probably needed to, because, you know, we never not to go on about Vegas, but we we never really talked about it. No, we just kind of that's how the band deals with stuff. We've done, that's how we do with stuff today. We just kind of internalize it and deal with it amongst the six of us. Um, but it was good to get some of that out anyway I think you know it also.
Speaker 1:I you know I've said this, I think I've heard you say this when you are it's. It's hard for me to talk about it when someone can't understand that scenario. You can't describe that scenario. But if somebody has been through their own traumatic experience, somehow you can feel that bond of being able to share that.
Speaker 4:I think you probably did with him and I think as, as I mean, I'm guilty of this I think, as dudes in general, we sometimes don't think it's okay to talk about stuff like that. You know what I mean, and I think we're finding out that you need to talk about it Instead of just kind of holding it all in and kind of letting it drag you down, you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of like probably people of our dad's generation was don't talk about it. Be strong, move forward and you know there is something to that. To be strong for your family, but also you need to be able to talk about things, too, that are weighing on you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know Everybody deals with it in different ways. Some people want to be able to talk about things, too, that are weighing on you. Yeah, I know Everybody deals with it in different ways. Some people want to be alone, some people want to talk to somebody.
Speaker 4:And that's how I mean I've always was. It was still him. It was like I'd rather just you know. Kurt said, like don't have time to feel bad for myself. There's no time for that. Sometimes, though, like like I was talking to brad that day, it was like felt kind of lighter after, because he's been through the ultimate you're losing a child I can't imagine. No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Um so anyway oh all right okay well at the end of the day, we have so much to be thankful for amen.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm just wondering was that part mundane?
Speaker 6:yeah, was it I don't know I don't think so no, we're, we're actually just playing.
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Speaker 4:Since we're talking industry stuff tonight, a little bit the question here from Michael where do you see this industry headed in the next five years? Our industry, oh gosh.
Speaker 1:Which Doom and gloom.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I mean, I know what I would like to see happen, which is to kind of come back to finding and developing really strong talent without you know, without worrying so much about okay, what do they have social on the socials right now? What's their following on social media? Like just kind of getting back to finding real talent even though they may not have a social media following you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Okay, so how does? How does that happen, is the question. Because we are in a day and age of social media, that rules. Unfortunately, that's a fact.
Speaker 4:The success of uh oh, I think you can find them, I think I think labels not to social, you know social media has made labels lazy. Well, that's what I mean. I feel like we can still find a talent and let them use the machine to build it, versus having to walk in with 500,000 Instagram followers or TikTok.
Speaker 2:Build a career from the ground up, let them help.
Speaker 4:We used to do that.
Speaker 2:There used to be an A&R guy that would walk into MCA Records or whatever record label and go hey, I saw this dude in Texas in this club down there, so-and-so club. You need to go check him out.
Speaker 4:Well that's what Knox did with.
Speaker 2:Aldean yeah, exactly, and they would all load up and go down, spot. That don't happen, no more.
Speaker 3:So I wonder yeah, they would break the artist. And now the artists have to break themselves, that's right.
Speaker 4:And then the label participates. Neil actually nailed it. That's exactly right, though. Neil nailed it. Love the labels, but it's becoming okay. What's your Instagram following?
Speaker 2:They don't have to.
Speaker 1:It want you to bring it in and, um, we're missing out on a lot of great talent because of that. Okay, so maybe I'm gonna try to answer my own question to you. Um, maybe, because some of these artists that will rename name remain nameless. The crown has gotten to me. Sometimes they get out there live and it doesn't translate. That's a fact.
Speaker 4:Or, worse than that, we find out who they really are. Right, and that I mean labels spend two years propping these artists up and they're not ready for it, and they were never ready for it.
Speaker 1:No, and so they get out there live and people go you don't want to name names, I don't.
Speaker 2:Let's go viral.
Speaker 1:But what I'm saying is I want to.
Speaker 3:Let Kurt get his point out. This may be why we don't hear from him much. Okay, go ahead, kurt.
Speaker 1:No, but that is my point and that's how we built superstars was because they went in the trenches, they gained a following, they had supporters, they built their following All of it at one. So now it's a TikTok world and they get out there live and people are like eh, not really my thing, he wasn't as good as I thought.
Speaker 2:Cody Johnson was like from the ground up.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there's been a couple of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's one of them. I bet he doesn't even have a social media account. He may now.
Speaker 1:Well I'm wondering like, yeah, does Chris Stapleton's, that's right.
Speaker 2:Does he have a social yeah, but you know, Stapleton, Cody Johnson, those guys came, I mean they built their followings. I mean, Stapleton made it in one night with Justin Timberlake, but that was freaking.
Speaker 1:But like so if Stapleton came out.
Speaker 4:That was their performance of the century. It's a good point, though, cause when Chris came along, still he kind of blew up still before, like the real, you know, the TikTok and the real emphasis on the social media. It's been the last five years. It feels like it's really turned to.
Speaker 1:It's almost a prerequisite and I don't even say it's almost, it actually is a prerequisite Like to let people in on what's happening. You can't get a record deal 99.9 of the time if you don't have a social media following already which is why I love what jason's done with night train records and signing john morgan.
Speaker 4:Yeah, john morgan had he is the zero one percent, but it takes someone like Jason. Wait a minute. Do I own a record label?
Speaker 1:No, it's a cool name. Now they just use your name. Oh, oh oh.
Speaker 3:I'll send you a t-shirt. Well for you. Gotta pay for it Half off.
Speaker 6:You don't get any royalties off of it.
Speaker 4:But seriously, though, it takes someone like Jason to say you know what, I'm going to sign you and use the machine to kind of build up your social media, and now John's sitting there with basically a top 10.
Speaker 4:So I think it's there. You just got to approach it like old school A&R, which I kind of miss the days you know there's one. I'm not sure how you guys feel about this, but one way of thinking is like, okay, it's nice to have Spotify and all that stuff and people can release music, YouTube and all that stuff, but it's also nice to have the head of a label with an A&R team saying we believe in this guy, let's cut great songs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's build it from the ground up, yeah, yeah, anyway that's.
Speaker 3:I mean I can almost see like both sides of it. I'm not a producer, not artists or anything like that, but like back in the day which we were used to with A&R and we'd pitch songs and they'd have artists and sign them and they would spend money and they would break this act. Then you could say, okay, there's some great talent got out there, but there was still a bunch that that didn't get signed for. Whatever.
Speaker 3:You know, there's a lot of people that are super talented and there's no rhyme or reason why you know your songs are recorded and theirs aren't and you stay here and you get paid and they go back to oklahoma. You know, just not a lot of times a lot of talented people just don't make it. So you, you might could argue like back in the day there wasn't enough getting in, and now maybe there's just multiple ways in. And I would say, just to go to the question of where do you think the industry will be in five years, I think some talented people will always be left out, but I think music will always find a way and I think the great ones that are stubborn enough to figure it out we'll figure it out and get out there somewhere.
Speaker 2:John Morgan's a perfect example of that. I mean there's I mean 99.9% of the artists out there can't carry his lunch, and it's starting to show.
Speaker 4:I'm worried about our craft, though as a song, writing part of it. Oh, that I'm scared to death of, because we should be, because you know radio is definitely let's be honest you can see it happening where it feels like the streaming services are dictating. Chart. I have a solution for that, by the way. Well, I mean we should get on it, because it's you know.
Speaker 2:It's more of a suggestion.
Speaker 4:What is it that?
Speaker 2:would be a solution. I'm interested because I wonder if it's no. Elon Musk needs to buy Spotify. Hmm, reconfigure the pie of how the money gets allocated. Leave Pandora, apple Music, all the rest of them out for the time being. Take over Spotify. Own all the music for the time being or stream all the music. Pay the writers what their fair share is. Get everybody to jump on board on Spotify. Leave everybody else out in the cold and everybody eventually will have to come in and play by the rules.
Speaker 1:It's got to happen. I don't know if people are interested in this or not. I think it's a great happen. I don't know if people are interested in this or not, but I think it's a great idea it is. But with spotify and with digital royalties, producers are actually paid pretty well.
Speaker 2:Players are actually yep paid pretty well there was a year that I made more money from singing harmonies on jason's record than I did as a song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, vocalists are paid very well. The songwriters are not. We're the only ones, as that kind of entity, that are not being paid for digital streams.
Speaker 2:So Elon, if you're listening, help a brother out. I want you to buy Spock Help a brother out and also as well.
Speaker 4:I mean, we have so many friends at radio. Radio has been so good to us. Everyone at this table has benefited from the great people at Country Radio. I get concerned a little bit by following by so much of the streaming, like how that affects the playlist. It's like radio is a very in this genre. Radio to me is still very powerful. Like if you have an artist that's streaming a million a week on Spotify, it's probably still can't really go out and sell a lot of hard tickets, but when you got a top 10 or top five you can really feel okay, well, all of a sudden you're selling 800 tickets at a club. Right, it's a powerful tool. I hope radio realizes how powerful they are and they can break artists too. If they approached it like they wanted to break an artist that maybe wasn't on spot. You know what I mean. Like instead of following the trends of what's streaming, because otherwise what's the reason to listen to radio? Because it really, I mean there's, you know it's all we have left.
Speaker 2:And when it's gone, this profession, the songwriting profession is gone, it goes extinct. Yeah, you know, and that's why I was saying the elon, you know he's a creator. Elon Musk is a creator, he's an inventor, he's a creator, he's a creative mind. That's what we do and we don't, we're not being compensated for the, for our creativity. These days, with streaming, it's just. And when radio goes away, when terrestrial radio goes away, we're we're done.
Speaker 4:It's over away, we're, we're done, it's so. What happens then? Okay, say, say, like we don't have like an elon, come down and save everything. What happens to people like us, who, who want to write great songs, and and the young artists need, need us to help write songs with them, it's going to be up to the labels in them.
Speaker 2:do you think to split the pie a little more evenly? Yeah, than it already, than it is now, because it's we're. We're a sliver that you can barely see in the pie. That's where we are right now and it's going to be up to them. The labels are going to have to let loose, the artists are going to have to let loose. Or continue to write your own stuff and it's going to suck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for the artists who are writing, you know, and those camps, those people that are blessed enough to be in those camps, they're generally going to survive pretty good. And you do have, you know, and it's difficult because technology will always outrun the law. But you have NSAI, you have Bart Herbson, you know, over there on the hill with us, nashville Songwriters Association.
Speaker 2:That dude's a warrior man.
Speaker 3:And trying, like everything you know, to get writers fairly compensated. It just, it just takes a lot of people, it takes a lot of money and just kind of it's hard.
Speaker 2:I may get an apartment in Washington. I think that'd be great. I may get an apartment in DC. I think it'd be great and just stay on them. I may do it, I'm serious, I may do it. That may be my calling Yep, but you don't like to go off campus very much. I don't know. But I may get an apartment in DC.
Speaker 4:I may do it. I don't think people really realize either how much the songwriters don't make from streaming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's almost criminal.
Speaker 2:I'll give you an example. Yeah, it's almost criminal. I'll give you an example. I mean on a three-way, maybe three-way 100,000 streams. By the time it's all split up, the rider on 100,000, a three-way one of the riders is going to make about $24.
Speaker 1:$24 on 100,000 streams.
Speaker 2:So do the math. I think that's roughly it right around that area.
Speaker 3:By the time it's all split.
Speaker 2:You make about $24 every. You know about 100,000 streams $27, something like that. Yeah, so go ahead and amp that up to a million streams and then go ahead and amp it up to 2 million, 10 million streams. You're still poor. If you just want to come here and write songs, you are going to be probably in the future, five years from now, there's a possibility you're going to be poor if that's what you want to do.
Speaker 4:Yeah, ooh, yeah, and that's what this town's built on on songwriters, you know, and it's sad to see it kind of going that way. You know what I mean, but you've seen a decline in quality of song.
Speaker 3:You know God, this is so depressing. I know I was like we got to change gears Anyway let's go with this one.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's a downer at all, I mean it's not going to change until people speak up.
Speaker 4:I don't think people realize it though either the listeners?
Speaker 2:No, they don't. And they don't realize that the Grammys are not voted on by the fans. They don't realize that that's voted on by the industry. It's the only reason Beyonce won Country Album of the Year. Are you freaking, kidding me? That wasn't voted on by. Here we go. I'm fixing to go, I know Finally we got trash talking.
Speaker 1:Let's change gears a little bit. This one's from Tim. Has anything weird or funny ever happened on stage, like, have you fallen or ripped your jeans or anything, dolly, have you?
Speaker 2:ever ripped your jeans?
Speaker 1:Just make sure you wear black underwear. Well, I have definitely fallen. That is a thing.
Speaker 2:Ben, I don't remember that Is been a video it's been I don't know.
Speaker 1:Go search your youtube. I have definitely fallen. It's been a minute, um. But and then he says well, what do you do if you've fallen? Well, you get up. I mean you, you gotta own it. It's kind of a thing. Yeah, what do you do? I mean you do, enough shows, something's gonna happen. How would you fall?
Speaker 2:I don't remember, you don't run. I mean, you, you're pretty active on stage, but you don't run.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I'm not forrest gump, I was running here's a funny story for you.
Speaker 4:So back in 2001 or 2 we were doing a showcase at the stage on Broadway in Nashville. Me and Kurt were in a band. And we're doing the showcase and he jumps up and then he lands and he's like on the ground on his back like kind of wincing but still playing. So I'm like, wow, Kurt, kurt's, I can land it out there.
Speaker 4:And then I like it, so I went and I I kind of I kind of went and stood over him, you know, and kind of started playing over him, like stepping on him, I'm like yes, it's awesome it was total rock and roll. And then I realized that he was wincing in pain.
Speaker 1:He's grabbing his chest actually no he, actually he actually blew his knee out. Yeah, I tore my ACL on stage. I went up for a jump. If anybody knows Eddie Van Halen, he used to jump up. I loved Eddie. He did the split, yeah, so I used to do that all the time and I went up and I came down and that knee went out.
Speaker 4:I thought it was rocking out.
Speaker 2:That happens in pickleball too, it's still rock and roll, even with the blown knee.
Speaker 4:It's rock and roll. We carried him off. It was really rock and roll. Did you hold?
Speaker 3:that one finger up on the way out Like a stretcher, like they do on a football field.
Speaker 2:I did this. Did I hear that you've had four ACL?
Speaker 1:surgeries. Yeah, it's been a bad run. Now Kurt used to, I mean serious.
Speaker 2:I don't know a football player that's had four ACL surgeries.
Speaker 1:Well, after a while you get tired of rehabbing. So they're weak and they're more susceptible.
Speaker 4:He could jump too Back in the day air. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Air. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I don't think. In all of the what 25-plus years we've been together, I can't think of anything that's happened to you on stage ever that has been.
Speaker 2:He maintains the A-frame.
Speaker 1:He just maintains the A-frame Solid stance.
Speaker 3:And he plays bass. I mean, you know how much movement is there? There's only four strings. Wow, my God.
Speaker 2:He looks good. He can't move around, he wants everybody to look at him. He can't see him.
Speaker 3:if he's having a brain disorder, you have a great stance. There's some stills around here.
Speaker 2:I got to know when you two, Kurt and Tully, when did y'all grow the beards? What was the facial hair? When did that come on Mine?
Speaker 1:wasn't Well, I did it a while ago, the early videos. There's no facial hair. There's no facial hair, no, no no, maybe 10 or 15 years ago I did a beard for about a year, but then I got rid of it Recently. Maybe the last two or three years You've kind of always done a little bit of stubble.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's been a long time since I had a clean-shaven face. This is very mundane. This is riveting. This is riveting. Are you talking about getting some?
Speaker 3:followers. Just keep going, Because we are there ain't no telling what's guys are we getting? Are we just stacking up Woo? Boy, the ticker is yeah keep talking about your beard growing, go on.
Speaker 6:This is great yeah.
Speaker 2:We could talk about your hernia.
Speaker 3:Oh gosh, I got thought of a great song idea, at least out of it.
Speaker 2:True I thought of a great song idea, at least out of it I don't want to mention it because somebody will steal it from us.
Speaker 3:We're all on it, but yeah don't mention the title.
Speaker 2:No, I won't say the title, but because Kalo had a hernia, we all got to feel it, we all got to see it, because he was proud of it. It was sticking out like a nipple. It was like he had three nipples. No, it was down here by your belly button, but it was sticking out like a nipple.
Speaker 3:It's not a nipple, but it was really cool. Wait, did you see it?
Speaker 2:Oh God yeah oh yeah, he showed it to us. God, god, god. And we got a song idea out of it and the four of us wrote it. Really, oh yeah, that's where the song idea came from. You've got to be kidding me. Drugs he got on drugs. He started taking pills for the pain. It was fantastic. He skirted.
Speaker 6:We wrote a song, y'all stay tuned the song may or may not.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't that be awesome.
Speaker 1:Stay tuned. Here's one, let's get one more in.
Speaker 4:We better make it really good, I don't know, a lot of pressure. What's your random skill or hobby? You have that people don't know about. Kurt, go ahead. Thank you, that's my gift to you tonight.
Speaker 1:Get us going? Has anybody got one Because random skill or hobby? I have a very random skill.
Speaker 4:Okay, what I mean? It's a stupid skill. What is it? I could type like 60 words a minute. Are you serious? I haven't done it in a while, but for some reason in high school the only thing that stuck with me was this keyboarding class you do, you do all four fingers.
Speaker 1:I'll go in A, s, d, F, I mean you know the home row.
Speaker 3:we learned that in seventh grade. I mean I took it and then you can just type no seriously, though, I could type pretty good.
Speaker 2:How come, when we write you don't have a laptop, you have an iPad.
Speaker 4:I know it why. I'm just saying I don't think my typing skills are sharp right now.
Speaker 3:No, he has an Apple too.
Speaker 4:For a long time. I mean I could type Okay.
Speaker 2:That's time, like I mean I could, I could type okay, that's good, that's, that's a great answer. It's very random. That's very random. I mean, it's that's the one that threw me. The word random threw me.
Speaker 4:I'm like, oh god, I can't think of anything random we all have tons of hobbies that we like, but like a random weird skill loving onlana because he's had a random hobby.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's gonna do it.
Speaker 3:That's good enough what about you, calo? I don't think. No, I don't. I mean, besides typing, which I believe the whole world can do, I don't have any.
Speaker 1:What is it with you tonight? I don't have a mundane skill.
Speaker 6:He's on telly tonight.
Speaker 3:What is it? No, everybody types.
Speaker 6:Is there? Oh, my God.
Speaker 4:Everybody types, oh yeah. Oh gosh, yeah, okay, I didn't know that I think I mean right I mean everybody still goes to school, right?
Speaker 3:I don't know, I think most people type like this that makes sense yeah.
Speaker 4:I got all fingers going Can you type.
Speaker 3:Caleb yeah.
Speaker 2:I can type. Why don't we have a typing contest?
Speaker 3:Good Lord.
Speaker 2:We could.
Speaker 3:Forget the pickleball. If you thought this episode was exciting. Wait until next week when we have a typing contest, the type-off. It'll be fantastic. Bring in the standard typewriters. Guys, Cut the white out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 6:Do you have a random one A?
Speaker 2:random talent, a hobby, no.
Speaker 3:No, I enjoy golf. I mean, it's not exciting, it's a hobby.
Speaker 2:It's not a random skill yeah, it's not random. You said hobby no random hobby?
Speaker 3:No, I have nothing Golf's not random. I've got nothing. I have nothing. Kurt, let's not miss you.
Speaker 2:I want to end this thing before we. No, I think K-Lo's would be a hand sanitizer.
Speaker 3:That's not a hobby, it's not a hobby, mr Been Sick Since November, who now carries hand sanitizer?
Speaker 1:I do you know I was going to read Ed's question. How do you guys get along so?
Speaker 3:well Still. You know I was going to read Ed's question. How do you guys get along so well Still after?
Speaker 1:all this time, but this is how.
Speaker 3:That's next episode.
Speaker 6:Yeah, this is next episode, Guys.
Speaker 1:I'm serious. I hope everybody enjoyed it. I hope you stuck it out. It was a little bit of here, there, everywhere.
Speaker 2:I love it. It's fantastic, I know you do. I feel like I haven't seen you guys in years had some football news come across.
Speaker 1:Oh what, what do?
Speaker 4:you give it to us, breaking news, oh well, you probably saw it probably not breaking um. So the rams are looking to trade cooper cup? Yeah, I saw that actually see a quarterback.
Speaker 2:Good lord, no, I'm kidding surprising, though.
Speaker 4:I mean maybe, maybe, maybe not, I don't know yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know I love football Ditching the money.
Speaker 2:So, speaking of that, since you brought that up, yeah, who in the draft? Who I know what quarterback I would love to see the Titans draft, but which one would y'all like to see? Cam Ward, yeah, I'm with you, that's my pick.
Speaker 4:We have a quarterback, my pick.
Speaker 2:We have a quarterback. He's definitely my pick, definitely.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know if he's worth a number one pick, but I think they need to pick him.
Speaker 2:They need a picking quarterback. Cam Ward. I've watched him too much. He's freaking, he's a baller. I think the dude has got it. Yeah, he's a baller. Should we talk Super?
Speaker 1:Bowl picks. And I think he's smart, so this episode will come out after the Super Bowl airs. So give your winner. Give your winner.
Speaker 3:Winner.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Who's in it? The refs.
Speaker 1:Eagles Chiefs. Neil takes the refs, so that means the Chiefs. No, I'm going with the Eagles, are you?
Speaker 2:I'm going to go Eagles. I got to go Eagles. There's too many Alabama.
Speaker 4:I just can't go against. No, I'm going with the Eagles, are you? I'm going to go Eagles. I got to go Eagles. There's too many Alabama guys on their team. I just can't go against. No, I'm not going to go against Mahomes.
Speaker 1:Bet against Mahomes.
Speaker 3:He's a winner he is. That's why I want to get beat.
Speaker 2:That'd be fun, I'd like to see him get beat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just want to see taylor swift cry.
Speaker 2:She used to cry.
Speaker 4:That's what I want she's to cry at every concert I don't want, you may still do it okay real quick I don't I don't think she'll cry last question last question do you still think that that's a legitimate relationship, or is it arranged?
Speaker 2:yeah, I don't have any idea, but it's, it's, it's going on a little bit long it, it is, it's absolute folly.
Speaker 3:Why would it be arranged Like who would benefit the most? Like?
Speaker 1:who would arrange it. I think they both benefited. He has definitely benefited. He would benefit much more.
Speaker 3:I don't think she needed more profile. I don't think.
Speaker 2:I mean it's fair. No, she doesn't need it. It. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3:I don't know At this point.
Speaker 2:I think people are changing the station every time they show her.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:Let's end this thing, guys. Right, like the whole thing. Yes, this is our last episode. It has been fun, but we can do other things.
Speaker 1:We can definitely do other things better than this. No no, seriously, we appreciate you guys. Thanks for sticking with us. Thrash Kalo, captain TK, this is the Patriot Mobile Studios and this is also the Try that in a Small Town podcast. Thanks for listening.
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