Try That in a Small Town Podcast
In 2023, Jason Aldean's groundbreaking song and video "Try That In A Small Town" resonated with a resurgence of conservative values in America. The writers of the song, Kurt, Neil, Tully, and Kelley, took the opportunity to launch the Try That In A Small Town Podcast. This platform allows them to reveal the true inspiration behind the song and discuss the importance of common-sense values. With a lineup of influential guests, the hosts will entertain you with the stories behind their music, while also addressing challenging topics affecting our communities and country.
Try That in a Small Town Podcast
Adventures in Country Music, Brother Hijinks, and Songwriting Magic with Dan & Reid Isbell :: Ep 43 Try That in a Small Town Podcast
In this episode, hosts of God's Country podcast and songwriters Dan and Reid Isbell join us for a riotous ride through the wilds of Nashville and beyond, sharing tales of their sibling antics and life on the road. From the unexpected wildlife adventures in Australia to the quirks of performing live, these brothers bring their unique brand of humor and insight into the often unpredictable music industry. Prepare for laugh-out-loud moments as they reveal all—including stress-induced beard pulling!
Our conversation unfolds into the art of songwriting and the unpredictable paths that lead to musical magic. We recount our collaborations with industry icons like Luke Combs, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the creation of hits like "The Kind of Love We Make." These stories are filled with the serendipitous events that spark creativity, whether it's a rainy day turning into a songwriting goldmine or the influence of rockabilly, blues, and country weaving through our work. The episode highlights the blend of spontaneous inspiration and hard work that fuels artistic success.
As we explore the dynamics of sibling rivalry mixed with camaraderie, listeners will discover the power of family bonds and authentic storytelling in both life and music. Through humorous anecdotes, we share the trials and triumphs of balancing professional ambitions with personal relationships. From our humble houseboat beginnings to the hilarious banter over a game of golf, this episode is a genuine celebration of perseverance, shared dreams, and the joy of making music with those you love. Tune in for a heartfelt and entertaining journey that promises to resonate with country music fans and anyone who loves a good story.
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Where a lot of people are singing about country music and singing about a lifestyle that sometimes they don't live. You know, and sometimes you can see through that we had Dustin Lynch on and, dude, this country is cornbread man and we were at For a guy with that good of teeth, that was kind of surprising.
Speaker 3:I saw stuff in Australia I never thought I'd ever see you?
Speaker 2:I bet you did.
Speaker 3:When they say there's stuff in Australia that would kill you. Oh, we were down there touring. We're at a bar and saw a tree. Though the tree was moving, it's the whole side of a tree and I asked the bartender I'm like man, there's something in that tree, man Big.
Speaker 2:Big in that tree Right.
Speaker 3:Something big. He goes oh mate, it's just one of those. Just a little city back and the thing took off.
Speaker 2:It looked like a horse with wings man, it was so. I had a fun country band Reid felt physics told me at a show.
Speaker 1:He was moving to Nashville and I was like great, come on, I doctor, I've time to schools up questions for the second literally, I'm like some people call you below, you know from the front rows
Speaker 2:a failed chemistry, physics, okay, okay, he's like just broke up my girlfriend. I was like all right, man, like okay, I got to finish the second first, and then he's like I'm moving to Nashville. I've got to finish the second verse and then he's like I'm moving to Nashville. I was like dude, we're literally riding home together we can talk about all of this after I get through this set, he's like we're going to be songwriters.
Speaker 7:The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.
Speaker 8:Give us some God's country. Look at them beers, god's country. Yeah, we got them both right here.
Speaker 6:God's country, god's country bring us in Kurt nice so how do you follow that God's?
Speaker 9:Country. Episode of the Try that in a Small Town podcast. As Neil told you, we got God's country. Some people call them the Brothers Hunt. Some people call you Dan and Reed.
Speaker 1:Is it Dan and Reed or Reed and Dan, reed and Dan? Who do you think is older? Oh, I ain't playing. No, we don't work together.
Speaker 8:You cut your beard. I can't tell anymore. You're identical twins.
Speaker 9:You can't say anything.
Speaker 2:Who's?
Speaker 7:older between me and Reed. You're identical, your identical twins.
Speaker 4:If you had to guess, that's it I'm gonna say you, because you're the more dominant okay, so who is older I'm?
Speaker 9:older oh yeah, you're right okay, we guess, let's go
Speaker 1:four years.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I didn't give you a chance I was going to say you only because of the distinguished slight more gray in the beard.
Speaker 1:That's three kids, that's two kids, that's right yeah yeah, yeah you're a little patchy, bro, because it's because it's pulling on the stress bro he has like a weird tip where he pulls especially beard, especially when I drive and I'm thinking. My wife all the time is like Ray, quit pulling your beard, Really.
Speaker 9:And you actually pull it out. I pull it out. It's like a thing Face me. Wow, okay, I see it.
Speaker 1:You see the green, it's like the rough and then the green right in the middle. Yeah so I got I do like this a whole lot trying to really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, you know, 10-12 years in this town will get you, that's right, pulling your hair out, that's right.
Speaker 8:What do y'all think of the state of the industry right now?
Speaker 6:oh boy, we're going right to it, we're going in. We're going in. Hot look hey.
Speaker 8:I don't, I'm not holding back. Let me take a drink.
Speaker 1:I say that on our podcast all the time. You're like let's go viral. Dude, say something that gets us viral.
Speaker 9:I really feel bad for you guys. You guys have an awesome podcast. You don't seem to piss anybody off. You guys get any hate, like PETA.
Speaker 2:Does PETA hate you guys? Yeah, they hate us, For sure they got to. Yeah, they hate us and that's fine. I mean you don't really care. It's the same kind of theory.
Speaker 9:J-Lo, he's talking to you.
Speaker 7:Are you a drunk?
Speaker 8:guy. We all know what PETA really stands for People eating.
Speaker 2:Tasty animals, that's right. Oh nice C-E-T-A man, that's right. So Tasty animals, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 5:Oh nice, C-E-T-A man, that's right, so you?
Speaker 2:know man? Look, I think it's one of those things where you're trying good intentions right Best of intentions. Was it Trev's trip? Yeah, something like that that was.
Speaker 1:And I think if PETA thought they could actually change this, they'd probably come after us, but they think it way too far down this rabbit hole to even think about that.
Speaker 2:It kind of, you know, when I think about guys that I could probably still beat the shit out of, I think about guys from PETA.
Speaker 1:PETA guys got nothing on us, but there's not a lot of those guys left. I'm not worried about PETA, we ain't worried about PETA.
Speaker 3:You're not going to feel really intimidated by any of our PETA. I think you're.
Speaker 8:I would love to see a lot of them blocking your gate.
Speaker 2:It'd be awesome. It feels like Hell's Angels or something.
Speaker 6:Don't kill deer.
Speaker 9:Oh, I love it. We got you guys some hot water.
Speaker 8:All I have to do is give them some of my jerky and they'd be in.
Speaker 6:Hey, dude, that is good.
Speaker 1:Neil, convert them Instantly you do your own jerky.
Speaker 9:Do you cook your own jerky? Do you cook your own jerky?
Speaker 3:It's good, you can guess it to some people. Well, here we go, here we go, I got my own.
Speaker 1:I smoke mine on a trigger. I smoke mine now. I don't dehydrate anymore.
Speaker 8:You're going to have to show me how to smoke it on a trigger. Have a trigger Easy.
Speaker 1:Easy Two hours, three hours.
Speaker 2:I'll try.
Speaker 8:It was out there on the counter for everybody to take and Kurt just missed it.
Speaker 9:No, I have a different side of the show. That's the.
Speaker 1:Arlie Bird gets the jerky right there.
Speaker 3:So you guys wrote a lot for Luke Combs. You write a lot for Luke Combs. Did you guys write the Kind of Love we Make? We did Before we even get going. I didn't want to forget this. That's my favorite Luke Combs song. That's got a classic feel to it. It sounds like it could be 80s, could be 90s. The groove, the melody, Great job.
Speaker 8:I bet we can get him to sing it later.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and that was your first number one. That's my first and your third. Yes, sir, let's go.
Speaker 2:That's my first listen. Yeah, my first listen. Yes, sir, let's go, that's right. Yeah, it was a pretty wild way that that song kind of came to fruition.
Speaker 1:We were supposed to be turkey hunting down in Mississippi and went down there with our other co-writer on the song and Dan went to college with him and he's like our other brother, jamie Davis, and he's now Luke's rhythm guy in his band utility guy kind of. But we were down there supposed to be turkey hunting. We woke up Saturday morning it was raining, cats and dogs and we were drinking coffee and hanging out and Dan was like man, maybe we should like, you know, since we're not going to go turkey hunting, maybe we should write a song.
Speaker 6:And me and Jamie were like yeah right, what are you talking about?
Speaker 7:We're on vacation right now I'm going to sit here, and drink some coffee and watch it rain.
Speaker 2:It's not very like me, honestly. Usually I'm the first to be like we ain't riding nothing today, but that day. I was like well, and it was early too. It was like 7.30 in the morning.
Speaker 1:It was real early, I mean we had just woken up to see if we were going to go turkey hunting.
Speaker 2:And the cool part- about this is is maria's wife had.
Speaker 4:You're missing it all. Jamie's wife maria, I'm sorry, jamie's wife maria, there was a guitar on the walls and, yeah, I'm still is, it was there, dads, that's what we do.
Speaker 1:I'll throw it back on a minute. Give it to the dominant brother.
Speaker 2:The dominant brother, I don't care how the story goes To my right it was just hanging up. So Jamie's wife, maria, her father played in bands and gigged and was kind of an R&B dude honestly like a soul guy in Mississippi and a lot of that R influence is kind of we're from West Tennessee but it's right where Mississippi and Alabama and Tennessee all meet right there.
Speaker 1:We've got Memphis two hours west. We've got the Shoals 45 minutes south, nashville two and a half hours, and then we're rooted in Mississippi, so Blues. Dad's a pastor and Rockabilly, so we've got that.
Speaker 2:Rockabilly was in Jackson, tennessee, and so all these and country of course.
Speaker 1:Tons of influences right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all these different influences kind of got in there on us, errol Worley's from our hometown.
Speaker 1:Shout out D-Dub man, that's right Hardin.
Speaker 6:County.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's where we're from. So all of that kind of flows through us and Jamie and I had a funk country band for a long time called Soul gravy. That reed would come to the shows and he would get up there and do songs and we just kind of grew up, really really grew up on r&b and 70s rock and so all that kind of influenced our stuff. And his dad or maria's dad get back to the story was in the same kind of band, had died, left her that guitar. It got hung up on the wall and I just picked it up and I was like I don't know, let's just see what this has got in it. And literally that's the first.
Speaker 2:That's the first thing, that came out just the first thing I played was that oh man, and uh jay given, and yeah oh, 100 divine man yeah, it was.
Speaker 5:Jamie was like hey man, what's?
Speaker 2:what's that? Dude? I was like no idea. I said I just, you know, I don't know, just a little r&b groove.
Speaker 1:And so we started talking about it and kind of started writing it out and we wrote um, what half of it or something, first course there, and then went to montana a couple months later and finished it with a retreat and we were like hey, man, I think this is kind of a you know feel, this feels good to us.
Speaker 2:It's, it's r&b, which he, whether he'll admit it or not, is a natural R&B singer, like he's got, oh, he's got that, he's got it, and we were just lucky enough to kind of write the thing.
Speaker 9:Were you saving it for him. Oh, totally, I mean after we'd so you had the verse and chorus and you thought, hey, let's sit on this and let's get it through.
Speaker 1:We wrote it for him specifically.
Speaker 2:Well, him being our literal best friend, it was like we kind of have a responsibility almost to just go hey man, before we finish this, if you want to. And he was like, oh man, I'm in. And we wrote the second verse with him and he even changed some stuff in the first to kind of make it. And the funniest part about this story to me is it didn't get cut. Well, I remember him.
Speaker 1:We wrote it in this house in Montana and I remember him we were doing the work tape and he brought up a microphone and we were trying to get a good work tape and he was getting so frustrated because it's a lot of words, right, and you've got to be familiar with it to get it in there, which is kind of how we I love syncopation man, I love trying to get things in there where, where it's normally not, and so a lot of that song is, there's a lot of stuff in it. And I just remember him getting really frustrated trying to sing this work tape and he'd be like god, let's do it again. I was like, oh, my god, we totally screwed up.
Speaker 2:It's a waste of a song. We just wait.
Speaker 7:We're not gonna write anymore on this trip you this
Speaker 2:trip and, yeah, it didn't get cut and we were like man, it's not even going to make the record, and it was the one we were the most excited about.
Speaker 3:It's a great song to have a song that's got that immediate classic feel. It makes you feel like it transcends wherever you are in decades, and it's really really great job for a year. Thank you, the crazy thing is is like it didn't feel.
Speaker 1:I mean, it felt special when you're writing that kind of thing. But it's, it's just, it's another day, right, like you're just it's it's not another song, but it is another song.
Speaker 8:You're just, you're not doing anything different that you've done, you're just that's what you fell into that day you could play that lick the next day and nobody said a word, absolutely, and and the timing of it for being honest, like the hook.
Speaker 2:Wasn't that super strong? You know what? I mean, we tried to change it a lot it wasn't like this standout twisty kind of, it was just a straight down the middle. This is what it is. There was no tricks involved in the hook which we were like, oh no, it's kind of regular.
Speaker 3:But I think the feel of it is what really catapulted it to to but I think too, those hook though it may feel that way to you, but for me I loved it. It was like sometimes that's what people want they don't want to think about just some years being on the road like you start to see what people buy into and why they do it. That's right, and sometimes they don't want to have to follow along with some twist right, it's like watching an m night shamalan movie you're like, okay, what's the hook?
Speaker 3:gonna be, they want to sing. I just I want to see a good point. And then when I first heard it on there it was on the radio, I think it just come out um me like a morning show was playing it and I was like I was like it reminded me of a song we cut years and years ago called no and it was. It was, I think, a Wendell song, I think years ago on, I can't remember, maybe maybe the second record, the Aldine record, and it had that really cool R and B kind of Knicks for country thing.
Speaker 2:You guys nailed that one. That means a lot coming from y'all.
Speaker 3:Seriously, I mean, but seriously that was a great one thank you.
Speaker 1:Table of legends man.
Speaker 4:That means a lot well I mean besides Caleb, yeah the guy with the most number one the guy with the most number one
Speaker 3:walking contradiction Caleb's very intimidating he didn't hear me he's very intimidating.
Speaker 9:He didn't hear me. Did you hear what he said? Because maybe we should get to it.
Speaker 1:I said, as some would say, a walking contradiction A walking or a walking it could be either it's not my words.
Speaker 9:Caleb, you were here, so we were talking about you I don't know what Kurt's talking about.
Speaker 8:Caleb, it's funny you said walking contradiction, because Kalo's.
Speaker 1:like really I didn't say it, just Kalo. So you know, I didn't say it. I didn't say it.
Speaker 6:You know I love you no no, no.
Speaker 4:Go to your co-writes. Co-writes are gone.
Speaker 6:When you say walking.
Speaker 2:No, it's like I can talk about it. He said walking contradictions.
Speaker 8:He's so militant in some things, but other things is like.
Speaker 4:Look at that face.
Speaker 9:I don't know what it is, we were talking walking contradictions.
Speaker 8:It's true, I'll agree.
Speaker 9:If you had to guess one thing that might be Not militant, not militant, not militant.
Speaker 4:What would it be?
Speaker 2:This is so great.
Speaker 4:Well, it's not hand sanitizer, because that's no no, very militant.
Speaker 9:That was mentioned about how good you are Very militant, very clean 99. What's the other?
Speaker 4:thing, oh, being on time, yeah Ding.
Speaker 9:This is like the newlywed game or something we newlywed game, or something we didn't?
Speaker 8:even have to. Your three buds didn't even have to bring it up. I thought it was going to be something where I was kind of looking over at Lana like okay, what are these guys doing?
Speaker 4:What do they know?
Speaker 1:My deep, dark secrets. What does my Wikipedia page say about me?
Speaker 8:It's funny, the guy with the most number ones at the table just sitting over there taking it.
Speaker 4:Well, you know, you can make a lot of money playing Costanza Jason.
Speaker 9:Alexander's rich too.
Speaker 4:He's not as rich as Seinfeld, but he's rich. That's good. Caleb, hey, I was going to ask you guys, just in being brothers and I've got brothers and mentioning that that incredible song was your first and your third Are you guys, were you competitive growing up as kids and are you competitive as songwriters? Are you keeping track Like who's got the most number ones? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:Honestly. No, I mean, we were honestly. You're not because you have more.
Speaker 4:Yeah, good, one K-Lo. No, I'm just curious.
Speaker 8:I'm just curious if there's any kind competition's healthy, it's great well, here's if the drive over here says anything.
Speaker 1:Dan said he had something to do with a buddy of ours next week.
Speaker 5:Then he had to cancel on me.
Speaker 1:He's got to cancel on me a co-ride because he's got to go do something with a buddy of ours. So the next 15 minutes nobody said anything. How do you just navigate that?
Speaker 4:and the reason I picked up on it is on the podcast.
Speaker 6:You picked up on that.
Speaker 4:Well, on the podcast that y'all shot together, you were leaving that podcast to go right, you're talking about the one that I was on. And you weren't, and I saw something kind of just you shifted or something. I thought that bugs him. That bugs him.
Speaker 6:I didn't even know it did.
Speaker 7:That's amazing. But I wonder, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5:Are you a therapist?
Speaker 3:He didn't even know.
Speaker 6:Dan, and he knew that.
Speaker 4:That's Kilo, that's Kilo. I just wonder.
Speaker 2:I'm very observant. Somebody's paying attention.
Speaker 9:That's actually. It is a great question. It's a great question.
Speaker 1:We did have Neil on our podcast and it was the worst performing podcast we had.
Speaker 9:Just so you know, that's not true.
Speaker 4:That was a great podcast and y'all singing together. That was killer. Y'all's harmony and everything in your playing was really great. It was actually fantastic.
Speaker 2:I will say this about that podcast my wife, she listens to all of them. We don't listen to them because we just don't want to hear ourselves talk.
Speaker 1:I can't believe anybody listens to them she said this to me.
Speaker 2:She said you know what my dad said earlier? I was like no. And she said he loves Neil Thrasher, was so excited about hearing him sing and then by the end of it he was just going. Well, they didn't even let him sing, they sang over him the whole time.
Speaker 4:I couldn't hear him do one thing. You're like Daddy, what about me? What did we say about you?
Speaker 9:It's like when you go to a concert and everybody's singing at the top of their lungs, I'm like bro, I want to hear the artist. That's exactly what it's like.
Speaker 2:We have a tendency to do that, especially if we get really excited about the songs or about the singer or about getting to harmonize with somebody. We love it and we grew up in church, so we're always picking different parts and it's just fun for us to kind of do.
Speaker 1:That's where we learned our our heart. Did you guys fight when you were young? Yeah, well, no, not really. I mean not really dan was always.
Speaker 2:I was the size of that coca-cola cup for until ninth grade.
Speaker 1:This is a perfect segue into the actual question of whether or not I was this big and shaving and dan was touching the backboard in second grade, my dad, always likes to say that my older sister came out and she was so cute and had a little nose and was just so sweet.
Speaker 2:And he says and then Dan came out looking for a sandwich and needed a shave. It was just a totally different deal, reed and I. He was small and he was four years younger. I'm four years older.
Speaker 2:I was fast son, I was fast years younger I'm four years older and so, honestly, there wasn't much competitive. I mean, we were competitive and like playing mario and stuff like that, but as far as uh just just wanting him to excel or me to excel, we were always rooting each other on. And then, and this is no different, honestly we're we're constantly trying to. Uh, you know, I mean, we're definitely autonomous in this in the sense of, like, we don't write together every day. Could you define on top?
Speaker 3:guys, what does?
Speaker 1:it mean this guy will know his month of the year I played bass, everybody back up and split that into a couple different words.
Speaker 2:Jeez, guys, I'm not a word. Basically, we're able to survive without having to have each other and I like to think that Reed stands on his own feet just as I stand on mine, but we're constantly rooting for each other and if there's a way to you know he helps me out sometimes on stuff, I help him out sometimes at stuff.
Speaker 6:But listen there's nobody in the world that I want to
Speaker 9:be that much more or less successful than me, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:I'm totally fine with him. Game's still going, by the way. It doesn't matter. The game never ends.
Speaker 8:And I'll tell you what really changed that.
Speaker 2:If it was just me and him on our own yeah, I would be wanting to beat him, but the fact that he's got, you know, my nieces and nephews and I've got nieces and nephews for him, it just completely has dissipated to the point to where we're just happy to see each other, you know, succeed. Yeah, man, that's great trying to tackle the podcast and, and you know I, we, we love working together. Tell them about the fight, the fight we got in front of jordan.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, that was good, oh yeah, well, you know the the flow of a podcast, right, and it's probably different with you guys because there's four of you, but but there's there's two of us and and so, anyway, we had a guest on and I felt like I was. We have sheets, my wife is our manager and she runs all that and and then like shout out to her she's a rock star, right, like she, she does everything, she's the reason why the podcast. So, after the podcast, like I felt like in that podcast there were a lot of those awkward like somebody get done, like our guests would get done saying something, and I and I just asked the question this is also the morning after we played the duck camp and drove four hours back.
Speaker 2:So reach tired, Running on about four hours of sleep apiece Good information.
Speaker 1:Shoulders hurting shot a bunch of ducks. Yeah, heads up. So anyway, the guests would quit talking and usually Dan would boom, he's right there with a well, solo, tell me about this or that.
Speaker 2:So a guy would quit talking and I'd be like that's awesome man, I'll be the guest. This is how awkward it was.
Speaker 8:Well no, I'm the guest, yeah, end a sentence End with like a story.
Speaker 2:Well, ask me a question first, Like where I'm from.
Speaker 1:This is pretty much what it was. Ask me from, ask me where I'm from. Hey man, where are you from? Uh? Lynchburg, cool uh.
Speaker 1:And so there's a lot of that it's like one of the first. It was one of the first times and so, like after the podcast was over, I was like I was like I was just. We were sitting there, new guy ray is back here, that's our sound guy and my wife, jordan, shout out new guy ray, free loops. And uh, and we were sitting there and I was like I just had to say it. I was like, hey, man, before we go any further, we had to cut the intro. I was like do the intro. I was like Dan. I was like, hey, man, I need some help on navigating these things.
Speaker 2:It's funny because I don't remember it being that calm.
Speaker 1:No, I know, because all you saw was taylor swift red dog you just went crazy you got.
Speaker 6:You got something like oh, you need some help. Huh, you need some help, I need some help doing this.
Speaker 4:I carried this show nine times out of ten, bro, it was I was like I love you guys.
Speaker 1:It's like I just killed his dog man I mean it no no but it handled it and then we, then we cut the intro, we cut the intro and I was like hey bro, my bad man.
Speaker 2:At the end of the intro he said hey man, I shouldn't have come at you like that. And immediately I was like dude, I shouldn't have blown up.
Speaker 1:God, hell, we're sweet. He's like I'll help you. I'll take that in, count and try to help you.
Speaker 2:That happened about it was that Jordan, his wife, had apparently never seen us like bulldog, like that, and so she walked up after we had kind of, hey, man, it's all good. And I said, dude, I know you've got a ton of things going on and that's usually your role and I'm trying to do the creative thing at the same time. And it's a bounce back and forth. And I said, man, I'm sorry, my part's creative bro.
Speaker 6:I'm sorry, my part's creative bro, I'm not saying it's not good.
Speaker 2:I said I'll apologize and I'll try to do a better job of filling those holes. And I said it's not as awkward as you think, but I hear what you're saying, I hear you, you know. And so his wife gets up and walks over and she goes. Hey guys, I'm real proud of y'all.
Speaker 3:That was a really nice thing that just happened and I was like what? I'm real proud of y'all.
Speaker 2:That was a really nice thing, that just happened. And I was like what I'm just hugging out the way that you guys you know the thing that happened and then you guys did the thing to work the thing out and I was like, oh man, we've been doing that since we were literally first grade 20, 25 years, man, you get mad you duke it my life and I apologize for being a dick sometimes. You know what I mean. It's just kind of a language you move on.
Speaker 3:Around here we just go down with the ship, yeah.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we just go down with it.
Speaker 8:You and Tully and Kurt used to fight when they were young.
Speaker 9:Well, unlike you, guys, we are not autonomous or whatever Hebrew word you use.
Speaker 7:I still don't know what that word means.
Speaker 6:On top of us O-N T-O-M.
Speaker 8:It's on top of us, y'all told the story before when y'all got into it. I think the Brothers Hunt need to hear it.
Speaker 9:I mean, even though we are not blood brothers, we are brothers. We've been with each other for how many years?
Speaker 1:So you guys are a couple? That's cute. What's that? I don't know. If you guys were a couple, I don't know, if they got married, we're partners.
Speaker 7:Is there anything wrong with that?
Speaker 8:None, I guess. Yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 9:But what I was gonna say is that, because of what I thought, that was a great question. They didn't really answer it, but okay it was fair tolly and I got to a point. You know, we started writing, we wrote together some and then sometimes we didn't totally gets a big dirks cut and I'm like, cool bro, happy for you, I'm not happy for you, no, you're not we've been together a really long.
Speaker 9:We've been together a really long time and it kind of started our all for one method started with rich back in the day rich redmond, jason strummer, we lived together band house, that whole thing. If somebody called tully for a session, you'd be like, cool, yeah, but you gotta hire rich and kurt, yeah, it was always that. So anyway, we ended up starting to write together. We write together exclusively. Now it's like oh, somebody calls tully to write, well, me and kurt. So how do you guys navigate that? How do you navigate that and say, well, yeah, we're gonna do it together this time, or you don't?
Speaker 2:if it was up to me, we would write together all the time, yeah so you don't want to write together no doubt I'll admit that. Yeah, absolutely, the, the, the. I think the thing that separates it is I started four years before he started, so I I started earlier and I established some relationships that are different from his.
Speaker 9:Okay, go back to that because that's great. I think people love to know. So did you move to town first? I did, Okay.
Speaker 2:So I had a funk country band called Soul Gravy, which was— you have to work up to the boat.
Speaker 8:Okay, Work up to the boat and you're all living on the boat boat and y'all living on the boat?
Speaker 1:sure hold on. You lived on a boat for four years.
Speaker 8:Yeah, we did. We dropped christmas trees under it to catch crappie off. They have to do that.
Speaker 9:So writing songs on the boat, oh my god, maybe we need to fast forward. I'll fast forward real quick.
Speaker 2:Okay. So I had a fun country band reed failed physics, told me at a show.
Speaker 1:He was moving to nashville and I was like great, come on, I doctor, I've time for school, is out him to school. He's out of the question. He's like a second. I failed physics for the second time.
Speaker 5:Literally I'm like some people call us the space cowboy. You know like I'm doing this thing and he's like man.
Speaker 2:From the front row. I was like what Dude, I'm in the thing. He's like I failed chemistry. Okay, he's like just broke up with my girlfriend. I was like all right man, like okay, I got to finish the second verse. And then he's like I'm moving to Nashville. I was like dude, we're literally riding home together.
Speaker 6:We can talk about all of this after I get through this stuff. He's like we're going to be songwriters.
Speaker 2:I was like dude, okay. So all that to say, I came to town, established some relationships, started riding and with my band Reed comes up. We can't afford anything because we have no money. Yeah, we move to a boat on Percy Priest. The slip rent was $400. We split it $200 apiece.
Speaker 9:This isn't like a boats and hoes boat, it's a small boat.
Speaker 2:I boat it's a small boat. I mean it's a small boat.
Speaker 1:It was a 36-foot carver, so I literally lived there.
Speaker 2:You can do the math on that.
Speaker 1:Dan got the seven-foot bedroom in the back.
Speaker 2:I got the.
Speaker 1:V-hole.
Speaker 4:Of course, and he's the dominant brother, he's the dominant Danament.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'm a little danament, that's amazing, the funny. Maybe I'm a little adamant, that's amazing, the funny thing about that.
Speaker 1:We moved furniture to make ends meet. On the side, we washed our clothes in the YMCA showers.
Speaker 2:We joined the YMCA because they had a thing where they would base it on your salary.
Speaker 1:They would base it on your salary so, dude, we were paying like 50 cents, I think I reported I made like 400 dollars that year because we weren't making anything.
Speaker 6:That's amazing though.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. We would wear all our clothes or take a bag and just stuff all our dirty clothes in there and go to the YMCA in Donaldson, and we wouldn't even work out. We might play a little basketball or something and we'd go straight to the showers and there would be two showers and we'd just be in there washing our clothes.
Speaker 1:I used half a roll of toilet paper in that thing because you couldn't on the boat.
Speaker 6:You had to be very selective.
Speaker 2:I was paying for that one.
Speaker 3:You held it for the YMCA that reminds me of a Not to interrupt, but it reminds me of a great Same thing.
Speaker 3:We were in a very struggling band in 2002 and 2003 called Rushlow. We had one hit, second song's dying and someone told us well, if you go to the cracker barrel in a hermitage, then if you show your laminate, you're an artist. If you're an artist, you get free breakfast. What I forget? This is true, yeah, so we're like no shit. Hell, yeah, we're like well. Well, we need free food. We had negative money.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so I remember we got our lammets on and our show clothes.
Speaker 6:We come down to the Cracker Barrel Show clothes.
Speaker 3:Oh, show clothes.
Speaker 1:Hair, Hair down Hair Guitars on the back oh don't Just holding it.
Speaker 6:So you had a shirt with a buck pearl on it.
Speaker 2:No, we did, we heard it.
Speaker 3:We're like we got to go to Cracker Barrel and eat for free, and this is how come we didn't know about this Monumental?
Speaker 1:yeah.
Speaker 3:So we get in our show clothes, do our hair, we pull in that Cracker Barrel right off Stewart's Ferry.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you know it, that's where we were.
Speaker 3:We were at Percy Priest right there in the hill marina. That's right where we live. Yeah, we walk in with our laminates, we sit down, we order a bunch of food and the bill comes. And we look at her and we look at that.
Speaker 9:It's like wayne's world.
Speaker 3:Wow, but have you seen this? And I remember her saying honey, what is that? I was like this is our laminate.
Speaker 5:You know what do you mean we're looking at it like sweat's beating
Speaker 3:down hearts pounding. We I mean, we didn't have 15 between us, you know and um, we didn't get it for free, unfortunately, but we got a discount because we had no extra money. I remember putting that laminate out there like read it and wait, look at that, hello ladies, look at that, hello girls but anyway, continue. But that reminded me of that, of that, you know, ymca kind of stuff, like like whatever you got to do whatever you got to do yeah, absolutely choice and that was honestly kind of fun, until we got serious girlfriends you know like.
Speaker 2:Well, it was just me and him, we were just fine and made a way made work.
Speaker 1:I tell people all the time I'm, you know, when you're, when you're 21 and and you tell a girl you live on your dad's houseboat and at at college, at mtsu, when you're, you're working intramurals.
Speaker 8:They're like oh, that's cool. I was going to say it seems like it sounds cool.
Speaker 5:He's like I was on my dad's houseboat.
Speaker 3:But when?
Speaker 1:you're 27 and you move furniture for a living and you're a struggling songwriter and you tell a girl you live on your dad's houseboat. They're gone.
Speaker 9:You know that ain't cool, no more. I'm telling you, rich, tully and I lived together for so long, oh my God, at a frat house, basically. Tully got married and we forced him to still live with us because we needed the rent bro.
Speaker 3:I was married for a whole year before I moved out. We were on the road Probably 250 days a year, you know, but we all we had a. So you weren't living there anyway, we had a rental house in hermitage where we each had our own level. Yeah, you know which was a nightmare, because it was a cul-de-sac of a family neighborhood in hermitage and then three of the biggest screw-ups you could ever imagine rolling through there. But I remember I got married in 06 and we we'd been living together for years at that point.
Speaker 3:And the same thing, like try telling people oh yeah, I live with my two best friends. Yeah, you know, we're not 18.
Speaker 9:Right, no, I was in my thirties at that point.
Speaker 2:We lived with our parents for a while and he used to say he had a flat with some roommates in colombia and it was just our mom and dad oh I appreciate it. He's like yeah, I got a studio flat down here in colombia and it was like just the upstairs of our mom and dad, you didn't feel any, any guilt for those lies at all.
Speaker 8:Hell, no, no, no.
Speaker 6:I lied I lied to her oh, my place in la is super nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I had a place in malibu for years karen, going back to how you to you say how do y'all navigate that with writing and doing that? Man, I've got two kids of my own now. I've got a little girl, she's two, and then I got a little boy. He's one and watching my little boy, even like last night, like if he looks up and sees his sister, his older sister, who's super independent, makes her own decisions and what she wants to do, what toy she wants to play with, whatever, what movie she wants to watch, when he looks, if he's doing something, he looks up and he sees her, he's gonna get up and go do that. And and so I was in a position where I thought I wanted to be an optometrist, I thought I wanted to work in savannah what's up?
Speaker 3:Wait, wait.
Speaker 6:What is that?
Speaker 3:Can you break that down?
Speaker 6:Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1:Man. Songwriting was never, honestly and I've told this on our podcast songwriting was never a dream of mine. Honestly, I didn't start writing songs until I was in college. I didn't even know how to play the guitar. I taught myself how to play the guitar in college because I knew I was going to fail physics again and and and what.
Speaker 1:What was option b? It was? It was either stay there and and get some bullshit degree or move to Nashville and and hang out with your brother and and figure out what he and and look, watch what he's doing and and it looks cool and fun, and and and who else in this world do I want to be around you, you know, besides him, and it's always been that way, and so even now, like with him having more hits than I do, or whatever, like I've always looked up to him and I've always chased him and of course I want to catch him and of course I want to have more songs on the radio than he does, but like he's always been something that I'm trying to be and he's still that, even in life.
Speaker 5:Wear the Kleenex.
Speaker 1:Even as a dad, even as a songwriter even as a landowner whatever it is. Like man, I appreciate the he fires me up to go get what I want and what he has.
Speaker 2:And I tell him that all the time. I want him to get it and he'll get it. He's getting it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to get it, absolutely, you are getting it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think it's just. You know, it's a timing thing and we're going to have each other's back regardless.
Speaker 3:Well, being pushed though in this business is a healthy thing, oh absolutely Ain't no doubt Got to keep the fire going right. It's to try to, because you know how it is like when you have success you want to get to the next thing, never rest.
Speaker 2:No doubt Never stop.
Speaker 1:Game's never over man.
Speaker 3:So being pushed is super I think super healthy yeah.
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Speaker 3:Neil, you doing the full harmony.
Speaker 9:You guys might want to lower the key for Neil.
Speaker 4:I learned don't step on Tully's harmony. It's going to be hell to pay.
Speaker 6:Oh, let's go. So I've been thinking we're needing a little time alone. So what you say, we cancel our plan Tonight. I'm only gonna be your man. Let's get some candles burning, some records turning all the lights down low. Take it nice and slow the way your body's moving. Keep doing what you're doing to me, all night long, writing our love song. Girl, I want it, gotta have it. Let the passion take us to a place Making that kind of love we made. Let's go Bring it in. That kind of love we made. Making that kind of love we made. I love that song.
Speaker 9:I love that song. I love that song. Dang, you're a singing song.
Speaker 6:Thanks man, I wouldn't sing.
Speaker 7:Thanks man, You're a love singer. Thanks man, you ain't fooling, I love it song. I love that song Dang you're a singing song.
Speaker 1:Thanks, man, I wouldn't sing, he's a love singer.
Speaker 8:Thanks man, I love that song.
Speaker 3:I appreciate it, Damn it.
Speaker 7:we should have wrote that one he don't play.
Speaker 8:Everyone don't play.
Speaker 9:This is the Try that in a Small Town podcast Coming to you from the Patriot Mobile Studios, we got Reed and Dan Isbell God's Country Podcast. Make sure you check those guys out. Like seriously, we love these guys, we champion what they do, we champion their message. Thank you, guys for being here.
Speaker 2:Same brother, thanks for having us man, absolutely, it's an honor.
Speaker 9:I heard you guys. I got to ask this because you kind of struck a it isn't a nerve.
Speaker 2:Don't say cord. Don't say cord. No, this is it.
Speaker 9:But you guys said your dad's a preacher, right, Correct, that's right. So I grew up in church big time Sunday, Wednesday, Friday all the time right. You went.
Speaker 2:Fridays. He said Sunday, wednesday, friday. I didn't know you had Fridays, dude.
Speaker 9:Actually, I'll be honest it was every day of the week because we were just that involved. Yeah, but all the preacher's kids I knew were usually the most wild, slightly rebellious. That only goes for the girls, especially the girls. But no, seriously that's a high standard to live to.
Speaker 7:We got two sisters that one fell flat.
Speaker 9:Was that hard being the Preacher's kids, or were you on the wild side?
Speaker 1:I feel like I've talked too much. Definitely, um, and honestly, no, uh, we, we knew we lived in a glass house, you know, and and and my dad was, was the type of of authority figure where my buddies didn't want to come to my house because, one, he was their preacher, two, they were scared of him, and and so, like my dad was very straight-laced, you're gonna do this, uh, do it my way, um, and so, man, we were just taught, you know young, to to do the right thing, um, to to be this kind of of person and be this kind of christian, and and, of course, man, we, we strayed a little bit and and did our own thing you're human still yeah absolutely still make mistakes and all that.
Speaker 1:But but, um man, I it, it really for me. I can't speak for dan, you know, but but for me it. It wasn't that hard to be a preacher's kid. I honestly took a little pride in it because, you know, like my dad was well respected in the community and and and I was, I was proud to be an israel for sure, yeah ditto ditto.
Speaker 9:That got it.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I'm not trying to leave you hanging, I just think he kind of answered the question yeah that's amazing, which is why you guys turned out the way you did well, look, man, we're not, we're, we're no, you got good, you got good rear I appreciate it we're raising, yeah, we raised right.
Speaker 8:You make good decisions. You know when you make a bad decision.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I think that's one thing that I want to make sure my kids understand is that your actions, you know, have consequences and I don't want them to lose that because you know, we understood that if we made a wrong choice, I mean that that affected everything and everyone, and there wasn't no way you were getting away with nothing in savannah, tennessee dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you really ain't getting away with nothing now, I mean with everybody having phones and cameras and all that stuff, and so we just kind of got to a place, honestly, where we were like, okay, for the good of ourselves and the good of our family, we're going to try to be stand-up individuals and do it the right way. And I'm going to be honest with you even in this business, I feel like doing it the right way has given me a career, instead of a flash in the pan, quick, quick deal. You know, treating people right and uh and being honest about things even in tough situations, uh, I think has given us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, it's standing your ground right, like, like, like um, believing in your convictions and working. You know, not changing. This town is constantly changing right, and there's people, like Dan said, there's flash in the pans and this is the cool thing today and this is the cool thing tomorrow, man, but we were raised to believe in what we believe in and stand up for it, and if you do that, you can't go wrong.
Speaker 2:We've been some desperate sons of a guns. I ain't going to lie. We've chameleoned our way in Maybe the houseboat years Exactly.
Speaker 4:I grew up on a lake. Lake people are different.
Speaker 9:The houseboat years that she knows Art.
Speaker 3:You guys should do a houseboat session.
Speaker 9:Actually it's not a bad idea actually not a bad idea.
Speaker 7:you should do a podcast from the boat I really I really love that hearing that, though, like it reminds me of like people are different all those years of like when we were here years and years ago together.
Speaker 3:And and what you go through and this is true when you have success it makes the struggle you. You look back on it and you realize why that struggle happened absolutely no doubt that everything happens deepens the well.
Speaker 2:I say that all the time it's so it's such a positive thing.
Speaker 3:I think you know, seeing seeing your way through that through the other side, but being able to look back on the struggle, it makes you, um, just really appreciate for sure right now right and and like I also.
Speaker 1:I think about it now that I have kids too, like you think about you know where you're at now. You think about when you, when, when we were living on a houseboat or whatever, but like success now started when we were young stop tapping the table.
Speaker 8:It didn't drive me, sorry, sorry that's why my golf game got good, because I didn't even hear that I'm undistracted.
Speaker 1:I'm a firm believer that your success starts way back and not when you move to town. Those decisions that you make when you're young affect you now. Like we were saying, man, we were, we were raised right and and, and you know, I think we're.
Speaker 2:We're where we're at because of because of that it wasn't always roses on that houseboat.
Speaker 1:For the record we were not there was. It sounds like roses there was some public land around the?
Speaker 2:uh, I know it wasn't, it's okay there was some public land around the lake and we killed turkeys and bees Let me guess you didn't have a permit either, Top 94. The first time I didn't actually he got me, but they can only give you a warning there. I don't know if I'm supposed to say that.
Speaker 8:No, you can say it all. Okay, you can.
Speaker 2:I've been busted man.
Speaker 8:Isbell.
Speaker 2:And I was like, ooh, he already knows my name. I was like uh-oh. I was like how far is that lake and how far I got to swim to get back to the boat. I said yes, sir, and he said man. He said I heard you shoot. I was over on the bridge checking some licenses and he said he said man, big turkey.
Speaker 5:He was like I actually had it last year.
Speaker 2:He knew everything about me and apparently I hadn't re-upped the top 94 on the sportsman that I've been paying for for the past 20 years, and so I took the turkey back. We ate turkey that week and we would just eat deer meat, and we would dock shot crappie and we'd have a can of Del Monte corn sitting in a pan. The oven didn't work in the boat so we had to grill everything. We would eat that. I remember there was one day.
Speaker 1:You got married, why We'd go to Cracker Barrel. I'll tell you why I think about those days a whole lot. That same Cracker Barrel you could for $2.49, you could get six biscuits, dude, we'd eat them all week, we'd get bags of biscuits and butter and jelly and we'd bring them back and we'd throw crappie turkey deer on those biscuits.
Speaker 8:We haven't talked about the four of us amongst, but we've lived the same exact life. Yeah, man, I remember one day.
Speaker 2:I came in, it's exactly the same my piece of crap car. The roof was leaking. I got canceled on four times that week and on the fourth time I came back in and I walked in and Reed was down there cooking crappie and Del Monte corn in this pan.
Speaker 2:For the 5,000th time and I walked in, dude, and I just come in, I'm just, you know, I'm four years older than him, right? And I just lay down on my tiny little bed, which was like this wide, and I'm sitting there and I, just like I was, I was breaking down to to an extent and so I just pulled. I couldn't get away from anybody, there was nowhere to go to hide, and so I pulled the covers over my head and about that time, the back of the boat did this.
Speaker 9:whenever the boat did that, you knew somebody stepping on my dad is the doorbell and my dad comes down.
Speaker 2:He's like what's up, boys, because this is like his dream. He's back in college with his homies.
Speaker 6:I was like damn, we got coffee on the ground.
Speaker 7:All you got here just in time Grizzlies come on at 7. Hip hop is fun.
Speaker 2:He's like yeah, we had direct TV.
Speaker 1:I hooked up a satellite.
Speaker 8:We were stealing direct TV.
Speaker 1:Stealing internet and direct TV.
Speaker 2:So the boat rocked and my dad stepped down. He's like, hey, reed, where's dan? And I was like under the covers, you know, like trying not to lose it. He's like, oh, he's, he's. He's down in his room and my dad's opinion was, damn, what's going on, man? I brought pork steak, you know, and I was like dad, honestly, dude, like I'm just kind of I just need my space right now, like can you just give me a second? He's like what's going on with Dad Reed? What's going on, reed? He's like I don't know.
Speaker 2:We're living the life and I, finally, I just ripped the cover back and I was like you want to know what's going on? Here's with some flashy words and I said I'm 30 years old, I don't have a thing to stand on, I don't have a dollar to my name, my buddies are buying trucks, houses, getting cuts left and right and bragging about it on Instagram, and I just got canceled on for the fourth time this week and my sunroof leaks. I don't know what's happening in my life. I don't know why I'm chasing this dream. I don't see anything coming down the pipe and, to be quite frank, I'm exhausted. I live on a boat with my dad and my croppy cooking brother and I'll tell you, man, I'd go back to that moment all the time what'd he say?
Speaker 2:though what'd your dad say? Oh, you're all right, you're gonna be fine, man, you've got family, you got everything you know, and he was right. Yeah, he was right.
Speaker 2:And I'll tell you, man, when people sorry man, I'm catching a little catch my throat here- sorry might have been good for now do it uh, when people say, man, it's crazy how this just all fell in your lap. I think about that brother, I think about that night, yeah, yeah, and I think about the, the sacrifice, and even though I had my brother to do it with and I'm not saying people didn't have harder roads than I did they do um, but man, that's what. That's why I appreciate, uh, when I, when a song gets cut, and I appreciate when I a good co-write comes down the pipe and when we have our first number one together. You know, like that kind of love we make was incredible to go. Wow, we did it together. You know, and it's special and and and you're right, the struggle, and I tell you, I dip into that well, all the time when I'm writing, because, and if I didn't have that well to to reach in and grab from, I don't know what kind of songs I'd be writing to this day and.
Speaker 2:I know that's long, I'm sorry.
Speaker 9:No, no, no, that's actually powerful. It's so good that's absolutely powerful, so give people the light. What was the breakthrough moment?
Speaker 2:There were a few, there were some cuts, that there were some. Honestly, there were some people that really invested us as songwriters, casey Beathard being one of those.
Speaker 9:Oh, casey, yeah, One of those guys.
Speaker 5:Jason Matthews.
Speaker 2:Michael.
Speaker 1:Haney. Yeah, Jonathan Singleton.
Speaker 2:He's from West Tennessee, where we're from, so he would throw us a ride.
Speaker 1:Travis Hill, Frank Liddell man, there's tons of people. That was my first deal was over there.
Speaker 8:I feel bad. You never called me and Kalo because y'all didn't call.
Speaker 1:That's right, kalo don't even remember that we wrote one time.
Speaker 2:I just met him.
Speaker 4:No, you reminded me downstairs. Now I remember, in fairness, we didn't finish the song.
Speaker 1:Kalo's like we met on the golf course.
Speaker 6:We did, we wrote.
Speaker 7:No but we didn't finish it.
Speaker 1:I thought, you were going to send it to Brad.
Speaker 9:You never did of course.
Speaker 4:Are you?
Speaker 8:on time for your tee times. I will generally get there. Yes, that's a fantastic question. He would make tee times Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 4:I would roll up, you know, and I knew I'd be the fourth one, you know, so I'd just roll right up.
Speaker 9:Don't hit a ball. They don't even flip a tee. You're just the fourth guy to take off.
Speaker 2:Is he as good as you?
Speaker 4:No oh.
Speaker 2:Neal's a man. Those guys are good, we play together.
Speaker 4:Are you like Reed's?
Speaker 2:a good player, reed can play.
Speaker 8:These two guys can play, yeah.
Speaker 9:Y'all are are you scratch or close? I'm working on it.
Speaker 1:I'm trying me. Me and neil could. We could. We could do some damage. You could do some damage.
Speaker 9:I'm about 18 oh, yeah, yeah, we, so we can hang. Yeah, we can, you can?
Speaker 8:tell dan what to do, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2:The the brain is a funny it's a funny muscle, so I'm not doing what you're telling me to do and you don't know it's no, it's, it's not that, it's the brain's a funny.
Speaker 8:I feel like I learned you.
Speaker 1:It all stems with athleticism. I can tell you, people can tell you what to do.
Speaker 2:Don't do that. It's like K-Lo he's jogging there.
Speaker 8:I'll tell you this about K-Lo Plaques over racks. You know what I'm saying? That's right, k-lo on the range looks and he hits shots that I'm going, my God you know. I'd give my left arm to hit shots like that every single time.
Speaker 4:We don't have to talk about it, go on.
Speaker 8:But then we get on the course and it's like everything tenses up. I don't know how this conversation went to golf, but I'm glad to oblige you. But Kalo has got whatever it takes, but on the course, when it matters, when you've got one shot, it's like he starts thinking about you know how did that make you feel? No, I'm not, I'm.
Speaker 7:Kalo.
Speaker 4:But he knows I'm right. He knows I'm right, I'm on 18. I'm trying to break 80.
Speaker 8:I'm sweating. Right now, kalo will get on the tee box and, like you know, are they looking at my calves. What are they looking? Are my shorts too tight? Are they baggy? He's thinking about everything except the shot he's supposed to hit.
Speaker 4:I stopped taking a practice swing and I still don't because I was sitting there thinking all right, the three guys behind me are wondering why I'm taking a practice swing.
Speaker 2:Why are you taking a practice swing when you're going to swing like that? You're a real, a real-life songwriter, and so I just stop taking a practice swing, and so I just get up there and go.
Speaker 4:So if you're going to be bad, don't be slow.
Speaker 8:That's right. That's right. Kalo used to be a four. He used to be a four. Handicap.
Speaker 1:That's strong Kalo.
Speaker 8:Yeah, for a minute. He used to be a player For a minute. I'll get back in it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's a sweet knife in the gut.
Speaker 4:You started it, you just said you started it.
Speaker 3:You said you sit here.
Speaker 4:Roll back the tape, Jim. He said he used to be.
Speaker 1:I can see how this goes. You guys are like the actual podcasters and this is just the clowns over here, Thank you, that's the weight.
Speaker 6:That's the color commentary.
Speaker 1:Y'all are me, they him. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a challenge. Y'all probably drive home and go.
Speaker 7:God, I need some help, man, I need some help, you're actually playing poker right now.
Speaker 9:Yeah, okay, so give uh, seriously give people a little history. How did the podcast happen? Because you did have the brother's hunt. Was that just kind of like a for fun thing?
Speaker 2:yes, it was. Yeah, we tried it and honestly, it was so much work we were like we can't do, we did we started, um, we started the brother's hunt.
Speaker 1:Actually we were. We were on the front porch of our oh, I thought you were referring to the pocket. I'll get there, I'll speed it up but we started the brother's hunt on the front porch of our deer camp in west tennessee, which is, when I say deer camp, it's a, it's a fifth wheel trailer with a built on two by four front porch that we built on with our dad, um, just just out of, you know, wanting to film and wanting to travel the world and and the world and see the country and hunt different animals.
Speaker 2:We're also preaching ethics as well, yeah absolutely, and that industry.
Speaker 8:As you kill turkeys at Percy Priest without a license.
Speaker 2:I thought it was legal.
Speaker 8:Back to you, Reed. I thought it was legal.
Speaker 7:Sweet.
Speaker 6:Dog my ass out, man.
Speaker 4:He didn't like that. You didn't's not a podcaster?
Speaker 1:he most certainly is that industry at that time was saturated with a lot of uh, look what I did, you know, like, like, I killed this animal. That's all I did this. It's you know, and, and we wanted to preach a you know a more spiritual, a more ethical way of doing it. Uh, uh, it's an honor to be able to to do that the way our dad raised yeah, man and outdoors, and so.
Speaker 1:so we started the brother's hunt there and and never really had a goal for it, um, but it just kind of it kind of grew into this thing and and, as in a nashville thing where we made some sweatshirts and people started wearing them, we met Luke through it. We met Luke through it and Luke got involved.
Speaker 9:Oh, is that how you guys met Luke.
Speaker 2:I wrote a couple songs with him and he said hey, man, I really want to learn how to hunt and fish like you guys do it. And I was like, okay, and at this time there wasn't a whole lot going on.
Speaker 9:Had he seen the Brother's Hunt?
Speaker 2:Yes, okay. And so we were like okay, man, and we took him turkey hunting, we took him deer hunting, and now it's a full-blown brotherhood. We kind of have everything together.
Speaker 1:But we started a podcast back then called the Brother's Hunt Podcast and did it ourselves and edited everything ourselves, and I screwed the audio up way too many times to ever oh, we know that's like move forward with it, you know, and so I mean not you but we ended up so. So, yeah, we met luke through that whole thing and and and we turned luke on to meat eater and steven ranella and and luke got, this is got for the listeners.
Speaker 2:It's a lifestyle slash hunting entity show is very popular, but now there's a podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's cooking, there's a whole thing sponsored by PETA so Luke got super obsessed with it almost, and was reading all these books that Steven Ranella, cookbooks and outdoor books, and watching all the seasons and. And so he came to us one day and he was like hey, man, he's like I want to, I want to get on that show, man, and and Meteor was a show at that time and and they were, they were all going into the season 10. And he said I think I'm gonna have Cappy and Meat Eater respond and Rinella respond. And they wrote him back. They were like dude, we'd love to have you on. And so he called us, facetimed us one day he's like boys, you'll never believe what happened today.
Speaker 1:And we were like what he was like I got invited to be on season 10 of Meat Eater and we were like what, dude, that's awesome. Like congrats, man, that's awesome, he goes. Yeah, he said. I told him I'd do it with one stipulation and we were like well, what is it? Well, and why, you know? And he goes. I told him that if I came, the brother's hunt had to come. And we were like what? And he was like yeah, he's like we're hunting antelope in New Mexico with Meteor in August or September, whatever it was. So he literally took us out there with Meteor.
Speaker 1:We filmed meat eater. We filmed a five day, you know, exclusive hunt on this incredible ranch in new mexico and or wyoming, and killed awesome antelope. And while we were there we did, we, we did a podcast with steve as the meat eater podcast and and luke you know me, luke and dan sitting there and and luke's the superstar. But we ended up talking about songwriting the whole time and then the guys like steven and yannis were just infatuated with what we did and how our brains worked and how we craft a song and why we craft a song and and that kind of stuff and and and so that went over so well it, I think it. It it put something in steve's mind where he just started up this, this conversation with himself about doing, about having a podcast, about that that he's growing the brand too yeah, that intertwines hunting and music and songwriting, country music and and I think a southern lifestyle as well.
Speaker 2:You know they're kind of western based and so you know to kind of come across country on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah and so he called, he called. He ended up calling luke and telling luke the idea and he was like man, he's like I'm thinking about, you know, host for this thing, and he was like and, and I I think dan and reed, and luke was like dude, dan and reed are the only ones that I know in this town that could do that. And so we had a meeting and we we told him you know what what kind of our ideas on it and and just kind of made this, uh, this thing to to where it is now a partnership between the Brothers Hunt and Meat Eater and iHeart. Yeah, we're doing Season two. I tell people all the time we don't know what we're doing, but maybe that's the trick.
Speaker 9:You guys are really good at what you do, I appreciate it no 100%. I mean, whether you actually think that or not, it's really really good. Thanks, man, Back at you, yeah back at you man. It's really really good. Thanks, man, back at you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, back at you, man, and y'all do play off each other really well and you can tell you have a love for each other, which we're learning more about tonight. But it's really, really, really, really good, thank you, man, and you're not trying to one-up, and you know. Hey, I want to say this I'm going to get this amount of time.
Speaker 6:Y smooth and really appreciate it. What's?
Speaker 1:the biggest episode that y'all have had.
Speaker 6:I don't know um you know I'd have to phone my wife.
Speaker 8:You know who got a lot, honestly, was uh, I can't remember his name got a ton kip more kip, more he has this like this secret Is that the one where he talked about songwriters and streaming and all that stuff? No, because I saw him on something.
Speaker 3:Kip's got a little hidden ground and he's got an overseas following. That's unbelievable. He goes overseas and does major, no doubt.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he does and.
Speaker 3:Kip, I love Kip. Anyway, we go way back with Kip. Kip's a hard worker, yeah, um, but I mean he, his work ethic and what he does is is yeah, it's a lesson, it's a lesson to artists that look at this something's feel like it's stalling somewhere.
Speaker 8:There's other avenues. What do you say on y'all's?
Speaker 2:that was. I mean he just honestly he explained, remember he went on that motorcycle ride that was like cross-country. Yeah, it was so bizarre. I was always like a hit Kip fan. I never jumped into the records that much, but I liked the hits, yeah, and I'll tell you that's. One thing we've learned is that whether someone's at the top of their game or the middle of their game or wherever they're at, if've developed a giant faint fan base dude, they're there for life. I mean we were getting all these comments from brazil on these kit more oh, I believe that they were in spanish.
Speaker 5:You know, we're like what, what is this? But?
Speaker 2:at the same time, it's like man they've. I mean those guys, you're right, whether you're radio hot or whether you're hot in brazil, it's like you know they're. Those fans are there and they're gonna be y'all.
Speaker 8:Y'all had luke on you. Hey, come on, that was a bit of a problem.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah and those are all big, those are all big riley green was on.
Speaker 8:Yeah, yeah, those are.
Speaker 9:Those are all the episodes for us it was like, okay, we're calling our bros, we're trying to hit up people. We know, when we're starting this thing, it's like, oh my god, help us out, can you come on? And we, we're starting this thing, it's like, oh my god, help us out, can you come on? And we, we're very thankful we had a lot of those people. It was the same thing. It was who was like one of the first or who was a guest that you had, that you hadn't met before, you didn't know, and they came on and blew your socks uh, justin moore for me.
Speaker 1:Well, kobe clay, first of all, justin Justin.
Speaker 2:Moore hasn't been on our podcast.
Speaker 9:Sorry.
Speaker 4:Thank you, reed, you can see your show.
Speaker 2:But if you listen to this show, I'll sing a crown of coke.
Speaker 7:here You're trying to give her a wrong tip. No, Dustin Lynch.
Speaker 1:Colby Collet vocally absolutely wrecked me, like she did Sister Act 2. He'll probably cut that. Yeah, she sang something out of Sister Act 2 that absolutely took me somewhere.
Speaker 2:It's a Lauryn Hill song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lauryn Hill song. It blew me away, but Dustin Lynch was awesome man, I'm strumming my train with his fingers, which is actually a.
Speaker 6:Fugees song yeah right.
Speaker 2:She, vocally, is the best.
Speaker 1:But, man, you know, in an industry where a lot of people are singing about country music and singing about a lifestyle that sometimes they don't live, you know, and sometimes you can see through that, we had Dustin Lynch on and, dude, this country is cornbread man and we were at For a guy with that good of teeth that was kind of surprising.
Speaker 2:He's a golfer too. Yeah, he's a stick was kind of surprising he's a golfer too. Yeah, he's a good stick, he played college golf, he's a good stick.
Speaker 1:But we were done with the episode and he was like whoa, whoa, whoa. He's like we haven't even talked about turkey hunting yet, and so we extended the episode another 25, 30 minutes to talk about turkey hunting. That's awesome, just a great dude.
Speaker 8:Y'all just failed because I was expecting to hear my episode best.
Speaker 3:I think the ratings are still being evaluated.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I'm so new.
Speaker 1:I will say this the team came back and said that your episode was one of the most sound episodes we've had in a long time. Who's the team Meat Eater and?
Speaker 2:my wife Scree's wife is our manager. Who's the team Meat Eater? And my wife, scree's wife, is our manager.
Speaker 8:That's all in marriage.
Speaker 1:You got brought up today in my co-write. They were like dude. That Neil Thrasher podcast was awesome.
Speaker 4:What was funny is when y'all do y'all's thing, which I think is great, and you have that little song and it's what you Mad At, and then you're asking Neil that, and I'm thinking you're asking Neil that he's mad at everything.
Speaker 9:That took up a whole show. I was surprised.
Speaker 6:I was surprised.
Speaker 9:I thought you were going to.
Speaker 8:I didn't go off on very solid.
Speaker 6:Let's turn it around what you mad at Just tell us what it is what you mad at. Is it your in-laws kids Might? Be your boss man or your neighbor's cat? Just tell us what you're mad at, what are you mad at?
Speaker 4:What are you mad at? Tell us what you're mad at. Yeah, I'll tell you what I'm mad at, and I've been mad at this for a long time.
Speaker 6:Here we go.
Speaker 8:How long have we got? How long?
Speaker 6:have we got? This is going to be good.
Speaker 4:Back in the day, the left lane was reserved for people that are going fast.
Speaker 6:Oh my God, Good one. Hey, I'm just telling you.
Speaker 4:Traffic.
Speaker 7:Traffic.
Speaker 4:I'm just telling you People are not aware. It's been the last few years. Nobody gets over in the right lane. They're going to live in the left, no matter how fast they're going, and it really irks me, it just does maybe we should write that living and I just wrote.
Speaker 8:I just wrote a song it's got that in it about big rigs coming over and blocking the left lane dang yeah, I knew you were left.
Speaker 2:I knew you were left, yeah all right, what about you?
Speaker 6:which man we're not going? Which man oh clock wise.
Speaker 2:Well, neil's gonna take forever. No, I'm, I pass. Okay, pass you. What do you mean you?
Speaker 8:pass. They hear what we're mad at all the time streaming. I'm so bad at streaming, man, if I didn't pick that up in our earlier conversation freaking streaming all right, let me ask you guys what, what decade of country music is your favorite? 90s it's everybody's favorite because it was the best man. It's amazing.
Speaker 2:It's everybody's answer, I mean for me, man, it was just this like glory 10, 12 years of just solid singing, solid melodies, solid, I mean it just.
Speaker 1:It wasn't the same either right Like it was different.
Speaker 8:It was everybody's answer. I think it was females too.
Speaker 2:It was Patti Loves.
Speaker 3:You can extend that from like that's. It was females too.
Speaker 2:It was Patti Love you can extend that from like almost 87 through the 90s.
Speaker 3:Mid 90s. I love Keith Whitley, love Whitley, love Desert Rose Band. I love Steve Earle. I love.
Speaker 5:Dwight.
Speaker 3:Yoakam. So you're looking at that 80s, late 80s, through the mid 90s.
Speaker 8:The 80s through the mid-90s, the 90s was magical for comedy. I was born in 87. Oh, my God, Sorry yeah yeah.
Speaker 7:Okay.
Speaker 3:What is that? This could be the disconnect.
Speaker 7:I'm mad at that. I'm mad at you.
Speaker 1:I mean my 80s, feel great, I got bass strings older than you, man.
Speaker 3:You got what Bass? Great, I got bass strings older than you, man. I'm like, you got what?
Speaker 6:Bass strings.
Speaker 1:I want a bass, now older than you and I'm 37, dog yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean we're extended, yeah, we're in our drop-dead years. I feel that that's what Bill Burr said in his last stand-up. He's like we're in those drop-dead years, those of us here at this table, not you guys. You guys are still. I don't know, man, it could happen at any minute.
Speaker 2:I'm 41.
Speaker 9:No, no, no, you got it. You're in the good years. You're in the good years. Okay, I appreciate that.
Speaker 7:You know what.
Speaker 9:I'm mad at I just figured it out.
Speaker 1:I can't wait. It's all good.
Speaker 9:I see you guys and it's like you know how you have a. I'm trying to think of a good analogy.
Speaker 3:There's this really successful business Jealousy.
Speaker 9:We're mad at each other, oh yeah, and then they kind of put together this other business basically to launder money. I see these two, they have a successful business as songwriters, right, they're doing very well, and now they've got this podcast business, which is basically there just to get them better rights and more cuts hey cut this, yeah, cut this. You guys got you're brilliant and I'm pissed. We didn't think about it, oh.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying you're not doing that right now because I'm a fucking idiot right.
Speaker 4:I want to write both of you.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying thank you, I'm ready. You tell me when man you tell me we already have Kayla. Oh god, that was a long time ago and we didn't finish it what's he on? Produce the song. Don't do that if you didn't finish. Produce it in one way or another. Yeah, he's like let me hear it where is it?
Speaker 4:what's the title?
Speaker 8:you don't know what's his favorite Brian Paisley song? Do you not remember writing that Mud on the Tires, mud on the Tires. I do remember we dance.
Speaker 4:It wasn't that one he didn going.
Speaker 6:I put on an empty hardwood floor.
Speaker 2:No, he meant keep singing.
Speaker 6:No, there's songs I keep singing.
Speaker 8:Until you get to K-Lo's. I don't know what else you wrote. You wrote a million of them.
Speaker 2:I know you wrote a bunch.
Speaker 9:How many number ones you got K-Lo Flex 18?
Speaker 5:Oh Bro, that's a flex, no no, no, I can tell by that wrist piece, blinding me every time you move it around.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't work.
Speaker 9:It's my show watch, that's an absolute flex. That's a flex, that is.
Speaker 1:Hey Zane, that's mean dude.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to remember Brad Paisley, a bunch of Brad.
Speaker 1:I mean there's so many hits Dude. There was a link right there in the early 2000s where he was the dude.
Speaker 4:It's a blessing, like with Luke, to have that relationship with an artist like Aldine. It just helps a bunch as a straight up songwriter, because 10 of those are with Brad.
Speaker 7:We live on the same farm.
Speaker 4:You know him, you know what he would say and what he wouldn't say same same with you know, aldine and um and you guys and so and so. For me, even though that was a huge blessing, and you started having hits with brad, you would hear people say say, oh yeah, that's, that's one of brad's guys, yeah, which irritated me, yeah.
Speaker 4:So my biggest drive was to get hits outside of brad yeah, absolutely, and I and I followed that with a mission and then finally got it and I and I felt, and I was glad to get the ones with Brad and very happy with them, but, uh, but you also getting those outside ones, uh, that was, you know, validated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I even feel that with cuts, you know um some of those guys that are that are new and coming up and I I feel that honestly I don't care if luke recorded every song from now on here on out of mine, I wouldn't care.
Speaker 1:I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like I have anything to really to prove anymore.
Speaker 6:I think now it's just going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know how can I help the artist convey what they want to say?
Speaker 9:you know, yeah did, I did, I hear where you were. Uh, luke's guitar tech for a bit.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, Is that a for real thing? Who told you that?
Speaker 4:No, because it ties in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you should have seen his little stubby legs running out on that stage.
Speaker 6:No, but is that for real, I will find footage.
Speaker 1:It's out there.
Speaker 2:We'll find it. So this is how that all went down Trying to decide on where to start the story. So he's like a brother to us at this point, honestly. So there are some things I don't feel like I have to do anymore. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And what I mean by that is so when he was on, it was the ACM or CMAs or whatever it was, and it was the year he won Entertainer of the Year, and so I was at the house mind you, it's a 45 minute drive to town from my house and so I was like shine was like my wife was like you go in. I was like he's an after party every year. So now if he listens to this, he'll figure out that I wasn't there the whole time. But I was like I'll tell you what, if he wins that album, I'll put my boots on. You know what I mean? So they're like album of the year. Luke comes on, I put my boots on and she's like I think you need to guess artist of the year is always at the very end, or entertainer of the year is always at the end. So I'm like man, I probably need to get moving. So I take off. Well, I was pulling on to mumbria and when he won entertainer and I was like thank god I can't, you know, because you know anyway, I roll up to this, the, where the after party is, I'm sitting there, he walks in. We all, yeah, doing the thing, excited for him.
Speaker 2:Reed was there. We were all just kind of hanging out. He was like hey man, I need you to follow me for a second. I was like what he's like, just follow me for a second. I was like, all right, I slide back to this room with him. It's like Peyyton manning speakeasy or something. It was super weird. But I get in there, is that thing? What's it called? The college? I have no clue. College bar thing anyway, sure? So I go back with him and he's like hey man, he's like uh, I want you to be and and shortening the story, I want you to be my guitar tech. I.
Speaker 2:I was like hell no dude Hell, no, there ain't no way I'm going to do that, no way. He's like, dude, we'll shoot a stag. I was like what? He's like we'll shoot a red stag in Australia. I was like okay, okay, keep talking. He's like we'll play golf, we'll turkey hunt, we'll shoot a stag, we'll write some songs. I was like no, no, dude, I'm not doing it. He's like talk to Shine about it. Don't give me an answer, talk to Shine about it. I was like all right, I call her and I'm like can you believe this?
Speaker 6:Like this dude wants me to go on the road with him, and she was like to hang out in that comfort zone.
Speaker 2:She wants you out of the house. Exactly so I did it, and it was tough how many dates was it Probably 60, 50, 60 days, it wasn't crazy.
Speaker 9:Not too bad.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll tell you where it got rough was Australia and Europe. There were four and five weeks. That's where the bulk of the shows were. Uh, there were four and five weeks. That's where the the bulk of the shows were. And I'm gonna tell you, man, there was one day, dude, there was one day I was in the. They had doubled you know, guys know this double deckers in europe where there's like two and I was. It was 2 30 in the morning there and I was in the double decker down there eating a damn turkey and cheese sandwich and I was like I'm never, I'm never coming back this is it?
Speaker 2:I don't care about the rest of the world, I don't care about seeing the rest of the world, I want to go home, I want to stay home and I'm never going anywhere else. And then I, at the end of the of the end of the run, luke I always tell this luke was like, uh, he ain't coming back next year. I was like hell, hell, no, dude, I ain't coming back. He's like W Salary. I was like nope.
Speaker 9:Did you for real tune the guitar?
Speaker 2:Oh, I was for real. I mean, I had the in-ears and I was tuned to the different guitars for different tunings. The worst one, dude, and this is a life lesson. This is a life lesson for people out there is we were in nashville at nissan. He had sold nissan and it's like 80, 70, 000, 75 000 or something. And he gets up there and he's playing one of the I can't remember which song it was, but it starts with him acoustic.
Speaker 2:He plays the first verse of the song acoustic and he strums and nothing happens and I'm like, oh my god, it's so cool.
Speaker 2:He's likeo got something going on up here, buddy and I was like I don't know if you know this or not, you'd probably do the inner ears are just like dan, what the hell? So I'm running, I'll run out on the stage with my stubby legs and I get out there and I open the pack and I can see the battery has just slipped and I just found that thing back in there and he strums and it's all good, it's rain, I think monday morning, that's right, and I come back and for the next, like four songs, I'm just like tweaking tweaking and my and one of the established guitar techs shout out ed lahane, he comes over and he puts his arm around me and he goes.
Speaker 2:Hey, man, he goes out. Of the 75 000 people in this arena, you're the only one thinking about that mistake. Nobody else even cares. He's like let it go and do your job, man. And I think that's a great life application, that that sometimes the deals that we think are so huge and nobody will ever forget and ever get over, because, dude, we're gonna screw up.
Speaker 4:Man, we would have burned, yeah, yeah we don't like that, honestly I'm kidding, I'm trying to get fired you mentioned, oh sorry no, you mentioned australia.
Speaker 3:Real quick, go ahead. I saw stuff in australia I never thought I bet you did I know what's legal. Oh my god no, just when they say there's stuff in australia that would kill you. Oh, we were down there touring, we were in, like melbourne, brisbane, one, one of the yeah, there's only like eight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you only go. It's all coastal right too. Yeah, there's nothing on the east coast. Yeah, you're go like it takes two days to get to the city, it's all coastal right too yeah there's
Speaker 3:nothing on these coves. Yeah, you're right, that's crazy. We're at a bar and we're and I know it's not the alcohol, because I only have one drink and I saw this bat and I saw, I saw a tree, though she was moving this whole side of a tree, and I'm asked a bartender?
Speaker 3:I'm like, damn, there's something in that tree man big, big right I said I said bro, there's something in that tree like something big. He goes oh mate, it's just one of those, just a little city bat, and the thing took off. It looked like a horse with wings man, it was just like some sort of prehistoric and then the huge, like fire ant mound, like ants, the size of this cup.
Speaker 2:The spiders are nuts too, man dude, they get huge over there I mean, it was it, was they messing? Around. Yeah, they didn't have that at the ritz, but I know what you're saying.
Speaker 8:Yeah, I'll never get on a plane that long ever. I didn't have that at the Ritz, but I know what you're saying I'll never get on a plane that long ever. It's a long trip one of the greatest nights of my life speaking of techs, guitar techs and what not, is the night we had to play Try that in a Small Town at the Ryman for the NSAI Awards, and these guys didn't have their techs, and it's one of the greatest regrets they've ever had. Seeing Tully having to carry his bass across Well.
Speaker 6:I realize no, no but even better than that.
Speaker 8:I mean, you did fine. But Kurt didn't even have an acoustic guitar at home. He had to call Guitar Center to ask to rent one when he drove on the way to the NSA.
Speaker 9:It's an hour before we have to be there.
Speaker 8:We're playing. Try that in a Small Town. Live for all these people. And I'm about to leave and I go, and these guys are so unprepared.
Speaker 1:Where's my?
Speaker 8:guitar.
Speaker 7:Or I don't have a tech.
Speaker 8:He didn't have a tech. The guitar didn't have a back.
Speaker 4:It was awesome, but let me take up for Curt and Tully a little bit on this.
Speaker 9:Thanks, Caleb.
Speaker 4:Since you brought this up about them being unprepared.
Speaker 8:Okay let's come up with one. Everybody needs to know how pampered these guys are. Several times it is true.
Speaker 4:Several times I'd said, hey, neil, we should probably run over the song, so let's go over it. We know it, we play it. All the time I said, yeah, but we don't play it. With these guys I mean, they're probably going to play it, right, I don't play it right. I, I don't play it right exactly right and he goes no, we're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4:And so so finally we did, we went over it you know, right before you know up there and it sounded good and Tully said hey, y'all are just playing that one part right and we changed it and we're playing it right.
Speaker 8:So I felt pretty good about that you're fixing to throw me under the bus.
Speaker 4:Well, it's only because it's only because you brought it up and you didn't want to practice or anything. And we get out there and there's one thing Neil said hey, by the way, when I get out there, I'm going to talk, I'm going to say something.
Speaker 4:Of course I said I don't think we're supposed to. I think that's what the video is. They try to keep the show going. He goes. No, I'm going to say something. I'm going to talk about the song. I'm going to do it and I said, okay, all right, go ahead. And so we walk out there and right before he sat down, he goes hey, by the way, I'm not going to say anything, Go ahead and start singing the first verse.
Speaker 4:And I said, oh, okay, okay, that's changed. And then we singing, first, you know the first few lines, and then who comes in on the wrong chord Was it Curt and Tully, it was old Neil.
Speaker 3:Wow, it's okay, it was an airing of green, it wasn't a Curt and Tully.
Speaker 2:No, just because you couldn't hear it doesn't mean it wasn't the wrong chord. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, and it wasn't the wrong chord because it wasn't on your part, it was on, but I was thrown off by once I got there and realizing that, oh, I don't think I have a cable. Oh, wait a minute.
Speaker 8:Do I have a tuner? Hence the guitar tuner.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, you did want to use my tuner. Your lifeline, my lifeline, oh for sure.
Speaker 8:These guys were fish out of water without their text.
Speaker 7:I mean look at his hair.
Speaker 6:It turned out good. It turned out good. They're like yeah we were.
Speaker 7:It was real fun, I admit it.
Speaker 4:But I was going to on the guitar tech thing you had mentioned and there's a couple things and both of them came from the Bobby Bones show that you guys were on and you were talking about being a tech at the Grammys and before the show or something like that and so. But you mentioned the Grammys and then last podcast we had, we were talking about the Grammys and Neil had said something about Beyonce that kind of got picked up on a little bit of the media and stuff. Do you guys have an opinion on the Beyonce win?
Speaker 9:Oh, Kayla, way to go.
Speaker 8:I like it.
Speaker 4:Let's want to know. Just got to respect you guys.
Speaker 9:You can either answer that or, if you like, the Super Bowl halftime, pick your question, whatever man.
Speaker 8:Did y'all see the Beyonce thing?
Speaker 2:I didn't see it. I honestly don't. This is terrible of me, but we talked about it and I'm not dodging the question.
Speaker 1:I literally don't know the record I mean dude, we know who's voting that right. Like I don't base that, ain't country listeners voting that, or it'd be different.
Speaker 2:Here's how I feel about it. It's almost like getting mad at Jurassic Park and saying those dinosaurs don't look real. You know what I mean. Like what you're, what we're sorry. I feel like what that question is looking for sometimes is like an answer to like logical reasoning, and you have to throw all that out the window when it comes to those things. So for me it's like entertainment wise, I see why it won, but when you talk about actual streams, listen, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 9:Yeah, cully said that he goes. Are you guys surprised? Why would you be surprised? Yeah, you can't put reasoning.
Speaker 3:I don't think you can apply reasoning. There's no reason to be surprised because that's right.
Speaker 1:No, that's what happens To entertain the grain.
Speaker 3:I mean it's.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you this that ain't a true representation country listeners, I don't feel like for me man, it's kind of like when I was at.
Speaker 2:I was at the grammys, uh, two years ago, and it was when, um, what's the I don't even know the guy's name something smith dressed up like a damn devil and there was some demons oh, sam smith, I'll tell you yeah, we talked about yeah, some trans guys we didn't talk enough about it but go there some dark evil stuff.
Speaker 8:Well, let me tell you this man when I was backstage.
Speaker 2:There's a real funny story.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you after the no, no, no no but I was just kind of like the whole time trying to figure out and some of the crew is even like, look at dan trying to figure out what's going on. He has a rookie, you know it was. It was odd. I was looking at this thing, but one of the things I really felt genuinely uh, you know, as far as reasoning, a lot of that stuff is just straight entertainment. Man, they're only doing that stuff like I don't think those people were devil worshipers and that they were they were. It's literally like they just make this thing up that goes how can we get the most attention?
Speaker 9:And they're shameless in it dude.
Speaker 2:Completely shameless there wasn't seances and weird Ouija boards and shit going on back there. It was genuinely like did we do it? Did we make everybody?
Speaker 8:think it's shock value, I feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 3:I mean the year that we got to do a one-year play there and it was amazing. We were very blessed to do it. It was Kelly Clarkson. Don't you Want to Stay that year, giant?
Speaker 6:song Giant song.
Speaker 3:Giant song. Great time for us. But, like also now, this was probably 2011, 12, right, we were at the Grammys and it was just sound checking there was so amazing. I mean, springsteen was playing it and watching his sound check and Springsteen sound checking, it was like he was like it's like his show. That's how it was. It was great. Bruno Mars had a breakout year and it was all about the music killer.
Speaker 3:So where we've come to now in a very short amount of time, if you think about it, it's from just really amazing music and performances to how to make the most people feel uncomfortable. That's right, absolutely that's right, and that that's one thing. I I don't care how they vote, because the grammys are always going to vote whatever the way they are.
Speaker 3:The opposite of that's right, that's right, but but it's because they're the actual they're demonic but the actual music used to be incredible, and it wasn't that long ago now, we just slid in how uncomfortable can you feel?
Speaker 1:what kind of shock value clickbait what can we do for the internet?
Speaker 3:how can we get talked about?
Speaker 8:there's so much talent there they sacrifice their soul for it.
Speaker 7:They're drinking blood backstage. They sell their soul for it.
Speaker 8:This has now become thrash talk they may not believe that completely, but they sell their soul for it, for money. And Sam Smith needs to go turkey hunting.
Speaker 4:Sam.
Speaker 8:Smith.
Speaker 6:Sam.
Speaker 8:Smith needs to go turkey hunting, hunting and we might save his soul.
Speaker 6:Hey, we get him one, we might save his soul, you're not?
Speaker 3:getting him in a blind, can I?
Speaker 6:say my favorite thing I'm not hunting a blind with him. I'm not getting him in a dress, but not a blind.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute now Hold on. That's something I want to see.
Speaker 6:Thrasher and Sam Smith in a entertainment right now. That's clickbait. Yeah, can we make that happen? Yeah?
Speaker 8:somehow, you guys somewhere pull them out one of my favorite saves his soul.
Speaker 2:I'll take him turkey hunting is when he gets like somebody's interviewing him and they say, well, what do you? You know, if you didn't do music, what would you do? And he says I think I'd like to be a fisherman. And then, anyway, I mean a fisher them, a fisher them.
Speaker 8:Oh, I fisher them oh God, I saw that A fisher them oh wow yeah.
Speaker 1:Fisher them.
Speaker 3:What does that mean?
Speaker 8:Okay.
Speaker 3:Exactly Catch me up guys.
Speaker 2:Got me bro, got me bro A fisher, she A fisher them. Oh my God.
Speaker 8:You don't have to say anymore.
Speaker 9:That's what that meant I'm fitting to preach. I got to start putting a bow on this thing, but listen before we do this. Both of you give an episode that people should check out. What's your favorite episode? You get bad.
Speaker 1:Neil.
Speaker 9:Thrasher buddy.
Speaker 1:We need the views. Come on, man, give us one, no you go, we Come on, man give us one? No, you go, you go.
Speaker 3:We're kind of second season, right, so like we're in a new studio.
Speaker 1:Wait, you guys have seasons, we are. We're in our second, okay wait.
Speaker 3:How many episodes are in a season?
Speaker 1:52. 52.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, we're in season one.
Speaker 4:Still, it looks great, it looks awesome man.
Speaker 1:you know what I'm going to say, dude. We had our dad on and that was special, oh cool. We got to bring Grandy. His name's Randy, but our kids call him Grandy.
Speaker 2:So it's like the perfect grandfather name. Everything's a hook in our lives. I love it.
Speaker 1:Dude, we're super blessed with our podcast to get to talk about a lot of what we want to talk about, and so a lot of that is family music, just enjoyments of life, and so we talk about our dad a lot.
Speaker 1:We talk about Grandy a whole lot and he's become kind of a character on our thing and a lot of DMs about what's Grandy got going on, what new Facebook marketplace deal is granny got into, and and and so, dude, we we live me and Dan and my dad all live in about a 10 minute triangle from each other. So, dude, he's our best friend man like. We see him constantly. I see him four or five times a week and I talk to him every day and we got to have him on and just pick his brain and and and let him tell stories, the hunt stories from way back when, and and that was probably we've, we've had combs on and and we've got some great, you know, guests in the in in the works and that we're going to have on our podcast. But I think the most special one for me that I feel like everybody should go check out because they they'll understand who we are at the core, more than anything is is is the episode with dad yeah, I, I.
Speaker 2:Honestly, when I think back about the episodes, I, I, the indicator to me is, like, what stories do I remember that people told I, I and I'm not just saying this, but I, I love thinking back and going back and listening to the story of the turkey across the other side of the road that you called your like cornerstone turkey. Oh, yeah, that was. That was a. That was a special moment, man. Um, the other one I, I think of it, which was just strictly entertaining, was we and I and, to be honest, I didn't know a lot about this guy but we had co-wets along and yeah, he talks about getting absolutely hammered and walking across the street and getting arrested at a whataburger and that was extremely entertaining and the whole time he was looking at his publicist like can I say this, or is it?
Speaker 2:cool if I'm saying this.
Speaker 1:But trying to keep that guy in an interviewable box was a challenge when we had Combs on. Well, this is the only time this has ever happened. Gosh, we start, we go off, dude this is early on where we were.
Speaker 2:We didn't have a format, we were just like tall, we would just talk.
Speaker 1:We. There's a clock that and there still is a clock that we watch and and at 30 minutes we try to, you know, hunt into music.
Speaker 2:That's kind of our if we don't, all we'll talk about is hunting there will be no music.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm with you. Yeah, but we had combs on and we were sitting there talking and our producer you could just see her she was just like, oh my God.
Speaker 6:Like we're sitting here.
Speaker 1:Cameras are on us. She's in the background and she's like, oh gosh, god, I was like doing this thing and she stopped the recording with combs this is our biggest you know guest. Yeah, she stops and she goes. Guys, guys, guys, what she goes, y'all talking, y'all are talking about. Y'all been talking about turkey sausage and skillet crisp for the last 47 minutes she was like we have got to move on here so I mean, that's a great one too, if you want to go, if you want to go here about minute 48.
Speaker 9:That's right?
Speaker 1:yeah, if you want to go hear about how Combs was. We talk about Skillet Crisp, and how he was a manager of a go-kart place for years before he made it.
Speaker 9:That's amazing. I do think that's what people want to hear.
Speaker 1:I know they do. Y'all know this.
Speaker 2:I mean, y'all are these people, but it's like we all share a common human thread. We all share struggles, we all share trying to reach the goals and trying to get to the place and trying to have good friends and good people and good music. And there's something relatable about just having somebody sit across the table from you and just talk about their lives for a couple of minutes and, by the way, perfect segue into saying thank y'all for allowing us to come and do that absolutely.
Speaker 8:We appreciate it, thank you. We can't thank you one of our favorite both thank you they can see.
Speaker 9:Obviously you're on instagram. Where else are you? You got that?
Speaker 1:yeah, man I tick talk. I think I don't really do. You know my we? Yeah, we're on tick tock we're real bad about it, but we have. We do have tick, facebook, any social media, and then we're on YouTube. God's Country Podcast on YouTube.
Speaker 9:Yeah, subscribe, follow. Part of the Meat Eaters, part of the Meat Eater Network. That's right, that's awesome. Hey, and don't forget about us. You guys Go to the YouTube and leave us some comments. Nothing about y'all. These guys are legit, man. You know what we?
Speaker 2:started doing was five, five star or roast us in the ratings. You guys should do that, and what you do is you allow, as long as they give you five stars, they can roast you oh, they already roasted can I?
Speaker 1:read one do we have time? We got time for whatever. Hey, well, since we have started this and this was an idea, this is my wife's idea, but since we have started this, we have so many five-star ratings Okay, so you give them the ability to roast you. If they give you five stars, well, they can roast us if they give us one, but the only way you'll get shouted out on the podcast is if you leave us a five star.
Speaker 2:That's a great idea. It's a bit now, right, dang, you guys are smart. So this one's titled Dumpster Dan and Lesser Brother.
Speaker 2:That's how they started, so we read one of these in episode, I'm already laughing. Episode 63 was the best one so far, even with the whole podcast being hard to love. That was Lee Bryce. I can tell the boys are going downhill fast with old material, only referencing Luke Combs' Gas Station Chicken and being mad at traffic. Heck, what am I mad at? I'm mad at this podcast. Good thing Steve Rinella gave these guys a chance, otherwise they'd be no one At this point. Steve is just doing charity work as a write-off for the two of them. Wow.
Speaker 2:It's five stars, it's five stars. It's hard to be mad at that, oh man yeah.
Speaker 5:It's five stars, it's five stars. It's hard to be mad at that, oh man. Yeah, we got to steal that. Okay, so, if anybody's still here, at an hour and a half.
Speaker 9:Give us five stars.
Speaker 5:You have carte blanche to say whatever the hell you want and we'll read it on the next episode.
Speaker 8:You should love it Taking your ideas now. Please do no, it's a pre-up, yours, from me.
Speaker 1:Five star me. I love yours. No, hey, man, we appreciate y'all. For real, this has been a blast. I was really pumped when, when neil hollered at me and asked us to come on and and we respect you as songwriters, all of you um artists chasing what you got. Yeah, yeah, what you do for the industry absolutely, man, what you stand for, what you believe in we're, we're fans.
Speaker 9:Well, I, promise you guys the same way. Thank you guys too. This is Dan and Reed Isbell. We are the Try that in a Small Town podcast brought to you from the Patriot Mobile Studios. Thanks for listening, guys.
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