Try That in a Small Town Podcast
In 2023, Jason Aldean's groundbreaking song and video "Try That In A Small Town" resonated with a resurgence of conservative values in America. The writers of the song, Kurt, Neil, Tully, and Kelley, took the opportunity to launch the Try That In A Small Town Podcast. This platform allows them to reveal the true inspiration behind the song and discuss the importance of common-sense values. With a lineup of influential guests, the hosts will entertain you with the stories behind their music, while also addressing challenging topics affecting our communities and country.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn :: The Constitutional Right to Create and Be Paid - Ep 49 Try That in a Small Town Podcast
Senator Marsha Blackburn steps into our world of irreverent music talk and delivers something unexpected – a candid glimpse into her political future and passionate defense of songwriters' rights that left us all captivated.
The conversation begins with her powerful statement on creators' constitutional rights. "Songwriters, our creators, our musicians have a constitutional right to benefit from their creations," she explains, grounding her advocacy in Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the Constitution. As musicians ourselves, we immediately recognize we're talking with someone who fundamentally understands our industry's challenges.
She breaks down her legislative initiatives with clarity rarely seen from politicians discussing creative industries. The No Fakes Act tackles AI's threat to artists' voices and likenesses, while her groundbreaking Songwriters Equity Act allows creators to pay capital gains rather than ordinary income tax when selling their catalogs. "A catalog is not an album. A catalog is your life work," she explains, capturing the essence of a songwriter's business reality in one perfect line.
When discussing her recent FCC letter addressing modern payola practices, we share our own experiences with radio stations demanding free performances for airplay. The conversation reveals her deep understanding of how industry exploitation evolves and her commitment to countering it with practical solutions.
Then comes the moment that caught us completely off guard – her forthright answer about running for Tennessee governor: "I'm giving a good, serious look at running for governor. And if I run, I will win." This unscripted revelation speaks volumes about both her confidence and comfort level with our podcast's freewheeling style.
The episode wraps with her vision for America's conservative future and Tennessee's potential leadership role. Whether you're a musician concerned about your rights, a policy wonk interested in creative economy issues, or just someone who enjoys genuine conversations with public figures, this episode offers surprising insights and unfiltered moments you won't hear in traditional political interviews.
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And I don't know if you know this, but we happen to propel careers here. We had Cash Patel on before he was the FBI director and look at that.
Speaker 2:There you go. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3:We had Kristi Noem on. We simply befriended Governor Kristi Noem.
Speaker 4:And now look at her. I don't know what she knows.
Speaker 3:Travis has not told her yet. I don't think she knows.
Speaker 4:You know I just look at her and say, shake it off.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go there. Senator, you're running for governor, oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Wow, 2026 would be the year. This is not live.
Speaker 7:It would be.
Speaker 6:And it's just between us, just between us. Yeah, we won't tell anybody.
Speaker 7:The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.
Speaker 1:Try that in a Small Town we are. This is You're listening to the Try that in a Small Town podcast Coming to you from the Patriot Mobile Studios. K-lo Trash, tk. I'm Kurt or whatever you want to call me, it doesn't matter, it actually just doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Tonight, though, it was Cobb. Nobody liked Cobb.
Speaker 1:I guess there's some off-putting references.
Speaker 3:Yeah, apparently we saw that after we're still bringing that to our attention.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thanks, ed. Uh, but you guys better get your minds right, because we gotta we gotta be thinking the highest level tonight. Still, how high, high. Okay, you got to get your sights set high. We have a very special guest. We had have Senator Marsha Blackburn coming on. I have no idea how she agreed to this.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I don't either.
Speaker 1:But I'll say this and we'll talk about it. She's been a huge proponent of musicians, songwriters, artists in Tennessee. She likes to take care of the people in Tennessee. She knows that's a business that's unique to Nashville, so it's going to be fun.
Speaker 3:And diminishing. I mean, you know she, since I've been in town she has been at every function, every award show, ever NSAI event with Barton Herbison, I mean every, every she's. She's present, you know, as many times as possible. And you know, not just, I mean she's, she's there, you know, and she really cares and she's, and she has also seen the songwriter community, like us, seen it shrink, you know, over the last 20 years. You know it was, I think bart said, like 4 000 songwriters I wonder why, years ago.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and and that's that's.
Speaker 1:You know, not near that now and we'll ask her that, like I mean yeah you know, there's a lot of things that I think musicians and artists and people want to know, and we say this a lot. We have a lot of different people on this podcast. A lot of them happen to be artists or songwriters. We'll have sports people on, we'll have whatever, but we don't usually have politicians, but this one's. Well they get intimidated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, they get intimidated and we get that I understand.
Speaker 2:I think I'm going to ask her if she's going to run for governor. Do you think I should do that? Please do it.
Speaker 3:I don't know if she'll tell you or not. You should ask.
Speaker 1:You should also ask her about Taylor Swift you should also ask her about. Taylor Swift. Oh the comments.
Speaker 2:Okay, I will, I'm going to do it. I'm doing it, I'll do it. Everybody knows I'll do it.
Speaker 7:You're both the big friends of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1:All right, let's not wait any longer, let's get right to it. Senator Marsha Blackburn, thanks for being here, come on.
Speaker 6:I mean, this is intimidating.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 3:And we dressed up for you. But an advocate for songwriters like no other, though man, for for years, I mean every time, I know, at the ascap awards, when, uh, neil and I were there, you were there every year and just always been supporting us, and so we just want to say thanks, we're thankful that you're here for all the songwriters thank.
Speaker 2:Thank you for everything you do.
Speaker 4:It is an honor and a privilege to do it and, as you all have heard me say, songwriters, our creators, our musicians have a constitutional right to benefit from their creations. It is an Article I, section 8, clause 8, guarantee to those who innovate and who create. So, yes, indeed, it's part of that constitutional duty to stand up and protect the right of creators to be paid for their innovations.
Speaker 1:We like you Amen. We should have had you on a long tour.
Speaker 3:It's true when we say we couldn't have said that better.
Speaker 4:Absolutely not you know, but you would say it in a different way and you would put music behind it and take three minutes to tell the story. Right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1:Well, and that's what you know what makes uh tennessee, and especially nashville, so unique, is it? I mean, it's a town of artists, it's a town of musicians and it's a town of songwriters, which is the most unique in the country or in the world, I believe, and you're you're heading up a few legislative acts which are hoping to protect especially the artists and the songwriters, which I think is awesome. And there's a couple I did want to get your uh definition or more of the opinion on. I know there's like the um, it's the fake. What is it uh?
Speaker 1:no fakes yes, which I don't think people realize this like I could go home tonight and I could make a recording and it would be me singing which you'd not want to hear. But then I could say put this in in the voice of Jason Aldean. And it's all of a sudden you think Jason Aldean is singing this song. Oh, it's scary, it's very scary. But I know, that you're trying to help and protect that right.
Speaker 4:Absolutely, and I think it is so important that we see what AI is doing and recognize that Now there are some industries like logistics and advanced manufacturing and healthcare that are going to do very well with AI. It'll bring efficiencies. The federal government needs to use AI and the problem that we have for our creators is they can take your likeness, they can take your voice and supplant that to someone else and create an image or create a sound. So no fakes will give artists the ability to have standing and then to take these bad actors to court and to remove that work and to keep them from benefiting. And that is something that with this technology, we don't have anything on the books that gives the songer, that gives the musician, that gives the vocalist the right to have those protections. So this is a bill that would do that.
Speaker 4:It's bipartisan, by the way, and we've been trying to get together a roundtable. Chris Coons, senator Coons out of Delaware, is the lead Democrat on the bill and he and I have been trying to work schedules and get a roundtable together, but of course, since the first of the year, we have been in DC five days a week, so we've not been able to do that, but I thought it would be great for him and a couple other of my colleagues who do not have the opportunity to have songwriters or vocalists in their communities to come to somewhere like Nashville where they could sit down and hear from people, whether they're from music publishing or a recording studio or a label or the entertainer, and find out what the vulnerabilities are, how they've been created that would adversely impact their line of work and prohibit them from benefiting from that line of work.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and one of the biggest things you did and it was a good while back was the Songwriters equity act. But then it's also where, where we can we've talked about this a little bit before where songwriters we have, you know, years sometimes of a catalog and things like that and we can sell that because it's a business and you can sell that group right percentage of that and and only pay capital gains taxes as opposed to ordinary taxes, right.
Speaker 5:So which would kill us, you know?
Speaker 3:So, it just gives you a chance to stay in the business longer. Can you talk about that for a second?
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was actually one of the first things that I got passed in Congress, and it was a tax bill and I had to take it through Ways and Means Committee when I was in the House at that point in time committee when I was in the House at that point in time, and what I realized as I started working with my colleagues that were there in DC, I realized that they did not understand what a catalog was. A catalog is not an album. A catalog is your life work. That is for you, a small business person, your business, that is your stock and trade. And so we were able to get this passed. And then, when you do sell a catalog and sell those rights, you now pay cap gains on it as opposed to ordinary income tax, which is a big difference and allows you, the creator of that work, to keep more of that nest egg that you've built up in that work.
Speaker 2:We love those lower tax, those lower capital gains taxes. We love it.
Speaker 6:It's so refreshing for someone in your position to talk to you about this, because I feel like you really understand it and I think most people in your position maybe don't and when you're songwriting and you're trying to come up with these ideas and everything's a small victory in this business and all of it is just so you seem to have such a grasp of how much that means to us financially and creatively. So thank you for all that.
Speaker 7:Oh, I'm happy to do it, tell Spotify.
Speaker 4:Exactly right.
Speaker 2:You think you could get Elon to buy Spotify when you get back to Washington?
Speaker 4:I think that's kind of out of my realm there a little bit.
Speaker 4:But here's the thing. You know, at some point we've got to look at rates and royalties and say why don't we focus on end use? Because radio pays for one thing but not the other thing. And of course we have the AMFM Act to straighten that out. They'll pay the songwriter, they don't pay the performer. Then you've got rates for streaming. You've got rates. It's really a hodgepodge. So at some point we need to say is this for just one-time use and listening? Is this for replication? Is this for commercial use? And then make certain that creators are paid for what they're creating. People would not go into Walmart and pick up a basket of things and say, well, this isn't much, I'm not going to pay for it, but then they don't think about it if they're ripping a song or somebody's not getting paid when it comes to your entertainment.
Speaker 2:I always tell people, when you go into a restaurant and imagine no music, go into just about any venue or any restaurant and turn the music off and see what it feels like You'd hear a lot of people chewing and you would see how important music is.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's your ambiance. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3:And you've always had an appreciation for it. And Kurt and I were talking earlier because you are a musician you know, when you were a kid and played piano and guitar Right, Ukulele gave ukulele lessons, that's right played piano and guitar, Right Ukulele gave ukulele lessons.
Speaker 5:That's right.
Speaker 2:Wow, what kind of lessons did you do? Well, what?
Speaker 4:I found interesting. Well, he's known me a while, yeah, but is the fact that you said that gray hair? It's kind of peeking out there, it's telling us what.
Speaker 6:What are?
Speaker 7:you saying Wait.
Speaker 6:Oh, I, oh, I love that. And the senator.
Speaker 3:I did mention to him last episode. I said you're growing it out on the sides. I've got a haircut which I kind of love. I've got a haircut. Since then he's grown. Before you say you know, I don't want to interrupt, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But the senator would always look at the writers' names, the sheet music and stuff like that. That's right, I and stuff like that.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 3:I found that fascinating because I never, even as a songwriter, I never did that. I didn't look at the writers and stuff, but you did. Yes, so you've always had an appreciation for writers, which I think is amazing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, who wrote the lyrics? Yeah, you know how did this come to be and I think it's fascinating to that church music, like a lot of people I know you did so he's old. It's amazing he is old, he's real old I'm older than everybody at this table conversation.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I thought I was older than you no, you're not, oh no uh, let's talk about also, as long as we're on this, uh, music talk in the business. I know that you recently sent a letter to the FCC and this is important too, because payola, people think that was a term, that and something that only happened in the 50s and then in the 90s and 2000s, but it still goes on and it just happens differently. And maybe an artist goes and plays a radio station show for free in order to get more airplay, and I know that's something you're trying to protect the artists on. Can you speak to that a little?
Speaker 4:bit? I certainly will, and it's so interesting how issues come back in a different form.
Speaker 1:Right, because this has been around for a long time.
Speaker 4:Yes, that's right. And I had some road musicians basically talk to me about this. People I would run into every once in a while and a few artists and they would say, hey, I would hear about this practice that had come to be with some of the large radio systems and basically if you were doing a tour and they were involved in the concert coming to town, then they would give you more airplay for certain cuts. If you would do a meet and greet for their advertisers, a private show for their advertisers, and this happens all the time, all the time.
Speaker 4:It happened to me a lot in the 90s, a lot and uh, they were saying people started using the term this is just a new form of payola. So I started hearing more about it from a wider group of people and I thought there is something to this. So so I sent a letter to Brendan Carr, who's the chairman of the FCC, who oversees all of this, and I said I think this is an issue that we need to put some attention on and just see what is happening. I know the FCC has guidance on payola practices and it seems that now it is coming forward in another form and this is what it is. And so he sent out a letter, basically a warning, to the radio stations and then issued guidance to be certain they understand they. If an artist is coming to town and they are doing a concert, that radio station cannot, they cannot, tie a free show, free services of the artist and the musician, to airplay and uh, there, it is a law and um how do you police that?
Speaker 4:I don't even know you know, I think that's one of those things that will be up to the fcc for me. It was just I've been made aware of it.
Speaker 1:You wanted to bring light to it, as we typically do.
Speaker 4:I said here you might want to take a look at this and investigate it. You all tend to it, but here's what I'm hearing from some people that are on the road.
Speaker 3:That even gets more interesting to me, like when you're talking about benefits, Because radio stations will always ask artists to come. Hey, will you come?
Speaker 3:play a few songs for this certain benefit, right? So let's assume that Tully and I have a new duo and the only reason we don't because we knew it'd be incredibly successful. We wouldn't get my sake. But if we did and we're trying to get a our record played and stuff like that, and somebody calls us from our hometown or whatever said, hey, would y'all come to raise some money, you know, for these kids, everything worth I would just be thinking internally, hey, if I do, they might add a record. So that gets a little tricky.
Speaker 6:Well, that's the whole thing Years ago, being on a radio tour. Every time you had a dinner with a radio station, the label takes the radio people out and we're all sitting there. I remember the old days. We're thinking, well, this is going well, We'll probably get another 10. Well, this is going well, we're probably getting another 10 spins in this station this week. You know, that's how it was. Yeah, it was, it was tight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did many shows like that. Well, and For nobody even sitting there, for the radio station, for their advertisers, for whatever. And yeah, we'll add your record and they add it. And then they take it off the playlist. You know a week later they kept their word, but they didn't say how long that they would. It's not right.
Speaker 4:It's just not right to do people that way well, and that's what I would hear from people that were on the road and, as I said, I'm not in that business. We don't handle that type investigation at our level. That is for the FCC, but it is important when the people that I represent, my constituents, when they're bringing an issue to me, it is incumbent upon me to turn that over to the appropriate agency.
Speaker 2:So we did. And hopefully it will Hopefully they're doing their job.
Speaker 4:Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, so.
Speaker 2:And all you can do is hear from guys like us, that's it.
Speaker 1:That's it. Well, I want to bring something to your attention and maybe you can get it to the higher powers. Can we somehow keep daylight savings time? Listen when yes, yes, at least in Tennessee, you know some states do it right like indiana I mean, this is the craziest thing, because I have sponsored the bill for years.
Speaker 4:That would say, pick one I. I don't care which one you pick, but I'm tired of changing the clock. And you look at what it costs people and it costs companies to go in and do all these resets and it is just absolutely ridiculous. Do you want more daylight in the morning or do you want it in the afternoon? Pick one.
Speaker 1:I would like daylight and I would like, I want to pick the more sunshine in the afternoon. Absolutely, I'm a musician. I wake up late. Look at everybody around the board.
Speaker 2:Look at everybody's mood. When the time changes, everybody's, their whole mood changes, their whole character changes. They're ready. They'll work longer hours, no problem, we got. We got more daylight. I like it dark.
Speaker 1:I prefer more dark.
Speaker 3:I get that.
Speaker 6:That's why the office has no windows, you guys know this, I get that.
Speaker 1:Where do you stand, do you just?
Speaker 4:want to stay one way. I would prefer daylight savings time Me too, Year round. But I just say stop the madness of changing the clocks. I mean, it makes no sense at all to me that we change the clocks and then we change them back, and then we change them. You know.
Speaker 6:What if we made it fun and just land somewhere in the middle? Do a half hour Like 45 minutes?
Speaker 4:I'd just throw the whole thing off. Yeah, I would throw the whole thing off.
Speaker 1:I mean, why not? You just blew my mind. Why does it have to?
Speaker 6:be. Can't we just do a half hour, Do a half?
Speaker 2:hour 31 minutes. I'm going to go there, senator, you're running for governor.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, wow, 2026 would be the this is not live.
Speaker 3:It would be, and it's just between us.
Speaker 6:And it's just between us. Just between us. Yeah, we won't tell anybody.
Speaker 4:I'm giving a good, serious look at running for governor.
Speaker 7:Yes.
Speaker 4:And if I run, I will win.
Speaker 7:Oh yes.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 7:Yes.
Speaker 1:Well, you heard it here first yes, 100%, you're amazing.
Speaker 4:If I run, I will be the strongest conservative in the race.
Speaker 1:I believe that too, and I don't know if you know this, but we happen to propel careers here.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 1:We had Kash Patel on before. He was the FBI director and look at that, there you go.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying we had Kristi Noem on.
Speaker 3:We simply befriended Governor Kristi Noem. Now look at her.
Speaker 1:So you made a good choice by stopping by your future's bright, of course.
Speaker 3:So, is it true that the whole demeanor, like in restaurants and hotels of DC, changes with each administration? It does. I've always heard that I wouldn't experience it myself.
Speaker 4:What are you talking about? People are happy and they're hopeful and it is like a new attitude. But here is the way I kind of look at it. I think that there are important moments in the life of a family or the life of a country, and 1776, important to us. You look at how we really solidified ourselves as one nation in that period from 1861 to 1865.
Speaker 4:You look at what happened around World War II, when people said and you look from 1938 to 1945, and people said we are Americans, we are the USA, we can do this, we are the greatest generation, the USA, we can do this, we are the greatest generation. And I think 2024 was another of those pivotal starts. The American people said we are not giving in to DEI, we are sick and tired of ESG, we know that men and women are different. We believe in a strong military, we love our country and we are not going to put up with this stuff. And they showed up and they gave Donald Trump a mandate to get our fiscal house in order to get this country back on track and keep it on track. Country back on track and keep it on track. And I fully believe that the American people are expecting big things.
Speaker 4:I told my colleagues the other day we were talking about it and we're finding about $4 billion a day in cuts that we can do from Doge and I said, you know, let's not limit ourselves and say, well, we're satisfied with one and a half trillion dollars in cuts. Let's take every cut that we can get and let's get every dollar of fraud and waste out of the federal government, because it is the taxpayer's dollar, it's not government's money.
Speaker 4:It is taxpayer money that is going to waste on these projects. It may be $3 trillion, it may be $2 trillion, but let's cut it all. Then let's see what we've got and then let's get government to the point that it is modernized to deliver all of its services and that we're going to be able to meet the needs of people that need services and defend our nation and get our taxes low and secure our southern border and get inflation down and get busy with this and send that power and money back to the states for health care and education and regulation and benefits. And Tennessee should be we have the potential to be. We should be. We have the potential to be. We should be America's conservative leader.
Speaker 1:Yes, we should. Oh, I love it. I think we can. I absolutely love that.
Speaker 2:I've got to ask the senator what it was like the night that the president gave the address. What was, what was that vibe like inside the room?
Speaker 7:I mean, for us, watching it on tv was like, we're like what is going on?
Speaker 2:I can't imagine what it was like there you know what?
Speaker 4:um, I was so pleased that he had a good time giving that address. And I am so pleased that the response from the American people was what it was. I mean, everybody liked that. I think it was like a 70% approval rating or something I think that the Democratic Party and their conduct.
Speaker 4:they could not stand up for a child that had survived brain cancer and a kid that was going to West Point and parents that had lost their children, a girl who had been injured in an accident, with a guy playing in women's sports. They couldn't stand up and show gratitude for law enforcement and I thought the conduct was absolutely abhorrent. If you're not going to applaud and if you don't like President Trump, don't take it out on people that have overcome adversity. Cheer for them. Cheer for them. Cheer for them.
Speaker 3:Cheer for them.
Speaker 4:And let the American people see that you are cheering for people that have overcome obstacles. Be on their team. But they could not bring themselves to do that. But here's what I do think the Democrats have done they have convinced themselves that they were right on November 5th and that everybody else was wrong and they have refused to listen to the American people. And you know we talk a lot about issues that are 80-20 issues. The Democrats are with the 20. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1:And they're stuck there, they, they left all of the 80.
Speaker 4:And it's like they're completely out of step with the American people and where they are. I just think they are so off on the wrong track, the wrong track and um their conduct, I I'm. I am hopeful that members of the democratic party will call their elected representatives out about that I asked somebody about that the other day.
Speaker 2:I was like is there anybody in the? In the party in the democratic party that has stepped up and go hey y'all, this is not working well, the. Moment has anybody done that?
Speaker 6:the moment when that little boy, the moment that little boy got the hug secret service agent and had his back like tears yeah, just streaming it was like it was such an incredible moment and, to me, like to see no one on the Democratic side stand up really just ripped the bandaid off anyone who was wondering how they really truly were, because if you don't feel that, I know, yeah, I mean you can't, and I was surprised that no one really stood up at all and broke order with I don't know how y'all held your tongues over here on the right side, I don't know.
Speaker 4:Everybody wasn't I can't know how y'all held your tongues over here on the right side. I don't know how everybody wasn't. I can't believe it didn't come on the hamster for a second. When I was working my way through college selling books door to door for the Southwestern Company, I learned a really important lesson, and it is don't waste your time worrying about things you cannot control.
Speaker 1:I cannot control what the Democrats, I'm learning from you, neal.
Speaker 2:She's looking right at you, I know. I'm like see Neal we were right. I have to commend her on the whole Taylor Swift comment and stuff. And you held your tongue on that one and I would have come unhinged.
Speaker 5:And I'm learning from you.
Speaker 2:I hope you're governor and you're a good influence on me. Let me tell you, Because if Taylor Swift were to talk to me like she talked to you, I would have come unhinged and you.
Speaker 4:Taylor Swift is a talented young woman and I am so pleased that Nashville is the center of her creative universe.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:We have a difference of opinion, obviously.
Speaker 2:You're so nice. You're so nice, You're definitely going to win.
Speaker 3:Governor. There are no two ways about it. I think she was given bad information.
Speaker 4:Who has done more to fight human trafficking and sex trafficking? Me? Who has done more to protect kids in the virtual space, kids online safety act, report, act, all these pieces that I've got? Who's done more to protect songwriters, songwriters, equity, music modernization we've got no fakes. We've got the copied act, uh, the american music tourism act, all these different bills. So does she know that?
Speaker 3:I don't know, I don't what travis has not told her. I don't think she knows. You know, I just look at her and say shake it off.
Speaker 1:Where's?
Speaker 7:the drum set.
Speaker 1:That's amazing. Hey, real quick, let's talk about the first 100 days. Actually, what are we two months in Trump's first 100 days?
Speaker 4:He can't do math.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, the border is basically closed. Yes, amazing Inflation down. Yes, ukraine and russia peace talks. Rosie o'donnell has left the country. It's an amazing first uh, couple months. How do you feel about the first 100 days?
Speaker 4:I am so excited about where we are after this first 50 days. I think it is that we've completed. We have gotten President Trump's entire cabinet confirmed. So, that is phenomenal Record time and we're working on deputies and assistants and all of those other components at this point in time and he is so aggressive. I just am so grateful that he's got so much energy that he is just going to it and it's every day, it's so.
Speaker 6:It's so much. Actually, someone's actually doing something they voted in and now people aren't used to it like, oh they're, they're doing what they said they do. You're right, that's right.
Speaker 4:This can happen he made promises, he is keeping promises and he is doing a great job. Jd vance is going to go down in history as one of the best vps ever and they are determined to shrink the size of government in washington dc.
Speaker 4:And they are determined to shrink the size of government in Washington DC and they will and they will send that power back to the states and the states are going to have to do good things with it. But I think it is phenomenal that when you look at the border, when you look at crime in cities, when you look at respect for law enforcement, when you talk about inflation coming down, when you look at getting people to the negotiating table using tariffs because his goal is to get reciprocal tariffs or no tariffs so that we can get the cost down, so that company countries are not padding their economies because they're tariffing us yeah, people don't realize that they're tariffing us huge percentages yes, that is what you call trade deficits right
Speaker 4:and so we are continuing to push on this to get these things done soon. We know we've got a two-year window and we're going to have to work every single day to get these things done, but with President Donald Trump back in the White House, our allies know they're an ally, our enemies know they're an ally, our enemies know they're an enemy. Countries know that they need to come to the White House and they need to negotiate with him. And they are coming and they are showing up.
Speaker 4:And I'm on Senate Finance Committee and I can tell you we've had the Canadian Ag minister and oil minister and finance minister and commerce minister all of them coming to the office. We've had all these countries with their different ministers of finance and economics coming into the office. They want to do business with the United States of America. That is a good thing and we want that to be a level playing field that is going to help us to grow jobs and grow salaries and build our economy, and that's a good thing. And that's a big part of the focus that we have is that prosperity and getting us back on the right track.
Speaker 2:Your timing as governor is going to be perfect it is I can't wait.
Speaker 4:You're Johnny. One Note today Come on.
Speaker 3:Do you think we'll get like the Doge dividends? Do you think that will actually happen? Or will the dividends just go back into the American pot just to make everything stronger? What I want is.
Speaker 4:There's a process we do that is called rescissions, and this is when we take savings like that and we cut it out of the federal budget and the Office of OMB, office of Management and Budget, has to ask us to make those rescissions and we can pass that through both chambers of Congress. Then those programs and that funding goes bye-bye. It is cut out of the budget. I we need to doge everything out and then we need to put us on Ozempic for life. Federal government.
Speaker 4:And just you know take those GLP-1s every day you know, and just keep this thing trimmed down and skinnied up, and that's what the American people want to see. It's certainly what Tennesseans want to see.
Speaker 1:Awesome, absolutely. Senator. We know your time is precious. We can't thank you enough for being here with us, and when you came on, I was going to ask if you've ever been with four more clueless or unqualified people, but they make you sit with democrats all the time we're very appreciative.
Speaker 3:What do you got? Well, I was going to see if you were going to ask her what we ask most of our guests each time. They come go real quick. We'll end with this uh, what did you think the first time you heard jason aldean sing the song?
Speaker 4:try that in small town I thought, yeah, you got it, that's great. What a great song.
Speaker 7:By the way, thank you for coming to the show.
Speaker 4:I love it Growing up in a small town, I could totally relate to that Love the song.
Speaker 2:We read your comment and we appreciate you having our back.
Speaker 4:You got it 100%.
Speaker 1:Like we said, you've got the backs of all the musicians, artists, songwriters here in Tennessee.
Speaker 4:We all the musicians, artists, songwriters here in Tennessee, we're very thankful for you. You got it and I appreciate you all. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Senator. Thank you very much, Senator.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
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Speaker 1:Join our original glory family and help ignite that original glory spirit. We're doing a wrap up, by the way. We're back and Kayla just said what are we doing now? I need to know, I need to know, I know, I need to know, I know. Well, what we're saying is we were just talking as the senator left sounds like she might run for governor.
Speaker 2:Sounds like she's confident. I know I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 1:That's a baller, answer it wasn't that?
Speaker 2:like I don't know, I'm thinking about it. I'm kind of weighing my odds. I'm thinking, no, she went to straight, I'm going to win.
Speaker 1:You figure the politician answer is that Then she's like no yeah, I'll win.
Speaker 2:That was not a politically correct answer she gave us at all.
Speaker 6:I think she's got a good feel for the spirit of the country right now and the state right now. What a great lady Trump loves her.
Speaker 2:She can't lose Smart, she's a winner, she's a winner, she's a winner kind of like us yeah, that's right yeah.
Speaker 6:I'm thinking about running, I'm nursing.
Speaker 1:I wish you lived after that, because you, you have the last name. How?
Speaker 6:hard. Can it be? Yes, I, you know Kennedy, another one to cross the party line. Perhaps maybe I don't know. I feel like my time's now.
Speaker 3:Vote Kennedy, maybe maybe, maybe, I don't know. I feel like my time's now. Vote Kennedy, maybe, maybe Vote Kennedy. And speaking of winners, I thought you were going to talk about the merch a little bit. Oh, the merch I'm going to talk. Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:This is my new turkey hunting hat. I have on, I like that Turkey season's coming up.
Speaker 5:It's right around the corner.
Speaker 2:And who wouldn't want one of these camo Camo, try that in a small town podcast Hats.
Speaker 1:And then Nice, kalo's got a black one. Is this Kalo's hat?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I brought that just in case.
Speaker 2:Where can you find these hats? By the way, try that in a smalltowncom Boom. Go to the store. What these are available, go to the store. These are available Right now you know how many turkeys I oh my God, when is turkey season?
Speaker 1:I have no idea. Middle April, I think it's April 13th, right after duck season April 12th in Tennessee and I'm pissed about that, we're all pissed.
Speaker 2:All the turkey hunters in Tennessee are pissed about that. Why? Because they took two weeks away from us. It used to open like at the beginning of April, end of March. The lack of turkey. No, that's their excuse, I don't believe it.
Speaker 1:That's their excuse. Oh, did they actually use that as an excuse?
Speaker 2:is that? I don't know, really know what the real excuse, their real excuse well, did the bird flu go from the chickens to the turkeys?
Speaker 3:no, it did not.
Speaker 1:I wish we would have had this conversation with this nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2:It's, it's. I don't know why. It's. Probably there's probably a liberal in charge of the two twra. That's my guess. It's never even been hunting in his life, probably. That's probably what the reason is. That's usually what the problem is no, it's not a her, I don't know. Anyway, we want our full turkey season back. If anybody's listening from the TWRA, I want it back.
Speaker 6:I want my two weeks back Now. We need to have enough turkeys for Thanksgiving. I don't want to risk that. That's my favorite.
Speaker 2:Those are domesticated turkeys, tully. Oh, I knew that. Those are farm-raised turkeys, not the ones I eat.
Speaker 3:We're not talking about the ones that you actually kill and dress yourself. We want to go to Publix and get one.
Speaker 2:Our listeners need to know that I need to take these three guys turkey hunting. I've been turkey hunting One of the worst experiences.
Speaker 1:I've had. Really, you need to go with old Neil. I don't even know nothing about it.
Speaker 6:I was in Texas with Tyler Farr. It was 155 degrees?
Speaker 2:Oh, is that when the cartel came up on your blind?
Speaker 6:I was sitting there in a blind with Heller Farr and he's like man, I'm the best turkey caller in the west side of Mississippi. I'm like, okay, this will be cool. And he starts doing this crazy sound and no turkeys come Two hours, no turkeys come. We get back to the lodge. Everybody's got turkeys Six, seven turkeys laid out just, and not us, nothing.
Speaker 2:So anyway, I don't know you need to go with old trash what time do you have to wake up to go turkey? You got to get up well, before the sun comes out. Well, we went out. The heat of the afternoon.
Speaker 6:Maybe that was a problem with a bottle of whiskey, so maybe that's you can go anytime, really.
Speaker 2:oh yeah, certain states cut it off at like one o'clock, but here here in Tennessee you can hunt all day. I've killed more turkeys in the afternoon than I have in the morning. Yeah, because I can call my ass off.
Speaker 1:Give it to us, or do you have?
Speaker 2:a little thing. I don't have my diaphragm with me. Now we're talking about preventing pregnancy, I have to put my diaphragm in my mouth.
Speaker 3:Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't do that. That sounds disgusting. No, it's amazing sounding.
Speaker 2:No it's a wonderful sound.
Speaker 3:Oh gosh, it works. I hope my mother's not listening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's pivot. He calls all the ladies in.
Speaker 1:TK, you got this book in front of you. I think it's important Actually.
Speaker 6:Jason Redman, a really good friend of ours. We had him on early on in the podcast Navy SEAL Navy SEAL American hero. His book Trident is an incredible story about what he went through. Great guy. He came out to a show after the podcast brought his wife out. Him and his wife wrote this book together Mission Invincible Marriage a battle-tested guide to an enduring relationship. It's pretty amazing. Him and his wife are inspiring. They wrote this book to just lend some knowledge and advice to couples and I, I you know he sent that to you specifically. Well, to us to the podcast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it would take a much larger book yeah, when you get through with it in four or five months pass it around to us.
Speaker 2:Does Jason turkey hunt Redmond? Yeah, because turkey hunters I mean marriages are kind of on the rocks for turkey hunters. I know they're gone all the time.
Speaker 6:Well whatever he's doing must be working, because this book is and, honestly, what they've gone through is a couple Right. What he's gone through and how you get through that. He's just one of my favorite people. He's an incredible uh person. His wife's amazing. So, um, gary sinistra, the forward, um, so nice yeah, check it out, check it out. I definitely want to check it out, you know um proud of him and and he's just, he's all about helping any way he can.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a badass. Yeah, we need more people.
Speaker 6:Jason, Erica, thank you for sending this. We will pass it around and hopefully our wives will appreciate what we've done.
Speaker 1:I hope so too. I think we're getting there. Yeah, inch by inch. Hey, have you guys? Yeah, inch by inch.
Speaker 2:Hey have you guys. Nice choice of words there. Kurt, nice segue from the diaphragm Really yeah inch by inch.
Speaker 3:What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, Mom, I was going to ask and now I'm off-put Topical conversation. Have you guys been hearing the swatting going on?
Speaker 2:You haven't heard of swatting. No, I've heard of squatting, hearing the swatting going on you haven't heard swatting.
Speaker 1:No, it's like, but not swatting. So apparently, like you get a, there's a call to the swap team that arrives at the house and it's basically like the new prank call and oh yeah it's like a deal and they're targeting conservatives like this is like happening all over, but since you guys don't know anything about it, I guess we want to have this conversation.
Speaker 6:No, I want to know more about it. I've been off the grid for a good week and a half. God good for you. So I didn't look at any. Maybe I missed it in the.
Speaker 1:No, it's just been happening a lot lately and it's I don't know, it's just concerning, because it's basically targeting, uh, conservative voices, cough, cough, especially you, neil, bring it. Uh. Well, yeah, we'll save it for a different episode, but, uh, maybe swatting swatting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hadn't heard that one yeah, yep, check it out check it out. So if I use that, if a like a swat team shows up in the front of them, yeah, there's a.
Speaker 1:It's basically like a high level prank call hey, wow, somebody murdered somebody over at 1805 johnson street. Yeah, they show up to your house and it's a serious situation they come busting in and stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, oh, that's nice when you said swatting, at first I thought you were talking, because we just talked about, like jason redmond's book, invincible marriage. I thought you were talking about us reaching for our wives in a lovemaking gesture and then swatting. That was where my head was. I was so far away from that, oh my God.
Speaker 1:The segue wasn't that great.
Speaker 3:I was so far away. You're on fire tonight.
Speaker 6:I'm so far away. You are, you're on fire.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. I don't even know where to go after that.
Speaker 3:Oh well, we could go to Tully. You had a point. I think it was about Neil's daughter's wife, Neil's daughter's wife's uncle.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, Allie Neil's daughter is getting married soon, right?
Speaker 3:Yes, and so we talked about the menu and things like that. And we always have thrash talk, and so something came up, or you questioned, I questioned something, you questioned the menu.
Speaker 6:I questioned them. Well, Ali was talking to me and Caleb before the podcast I haven't seen the menu. You haven't. No, you're about to.
Speaker 1:But you're paying for the menu, yep.
Speaker 7:So, Ali said she just got the menu back and there's a braised short rib, which sounds right.
Speaker 3:It sounds in line.
Speaker 6:There's a chicken glazed with a very fancy sauce.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute, that's okay. How do you guys know this before I do?
Speaker 3:Well, it's because we care about people and we were just asking Allie about her life.
Speaker 2:She had a menu in her hand, though she showed you.
Speaker 6:No, she knows the menu. It's done though.
Speaker 2:And she knows the dollar amount. We didn't talk about that.
Speaker 3:But go ahead and get to the last.
Speaker 6:The most interesting part is when she said the vegan option. It's a giant piece of cauliflower, but then I don't know what's in it, but I was surprised that there is a vegan option Kayla goes, that's a very liberal menu that's for a man's man to be supplying all the food.
Speaker 3:We thought it was odd that you would have a vegan option.
Speaker 2:There's no vegans coming to her wedding.
Speaker 3:That you said hey guys, shouldn't we get something for the vegans? What vegans? There's a vegan coming, Just vegans. What vegans? There's a vegan coming.
Speaker 7:Just telling you what vegans, and it is costly there must be a vegan coming it's more expensive than the short ribs.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Well, that's always going to be that way. I know Organic, all the vegan menu. It's always going to be more expensive.
Speaker 3:That's the way the limbs work. Tully Telly wants to know why you approved it.
Speaker 6:Well we wanted to know. I haven't approved it?
Speaker 7:I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1:We wanted to know, not just me, right, caleb, yeah, we wanted to know but if you're vegan, why not just eat the salad and the vegetables? Do you have to have the main course, exactly?
Speaker 6:You know why? Why, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm not catering to veg. Here's your question.
Speaker 6:The reason is because if you don't have a vegan dish, they don't get to say I'm vegan, because that's their favorite thing to do is to say I'm vegan.
Speaker 1:It's true.
Speaker 6:They can't just pick around the stuff and they have to say I'm vegan, no, I'm vegan, I'm vegan. They love it, that's their go-to.
Speaker 3:Some people do have food allergies. Well, I have food allergies, but I don't know. But it could be. Just say that. But some people would have to eat vegan because of legit allergies I agree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is there a dairy free option on this menu that I don't know?
Speaker 2:eat some freaking meat man, geez man up, eat some meat man up girl oh, I love you guys now we'll say here's what I'll say um the.
Speaker 6:I have had an impossible burger yeah, actually you introduced me to an impossible burger nice what did you say?
Speaker 3:kayla, joe nichols restaurant, the impossible, very funny.
Speaker 1:And you didn't get any royalty song in there.
Speaker 6:He plugged it that way it was I'm trying it's interesting.
Speaker 1:I mean it's got the texture yeah, you took me to a place in new york city and we had one and it was actually pretty good, yeah, but uh, yeah, it never can replace.
Speaker 6:Well, no, you know, and I'd be surprised that neil will have a vegan option, that his daughters were my favorite thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not the thing that you're wrong with me.
Speaker 6:I haven't seen it yet, you're right well, you're right, it's definitely not up to you.
Speaker 2:No, it's not I offered him 50 grand to go. Just go get married and go to the courthouse, just go on that's so smart.
Speaker 1:What a great idea. That's so smart dude wanted her.
Speaker 2:Her fiance roger wanted to do it. He's like they all. You know, the dudes always want the money Right.
Speaker 3:Take the money You'll be, married either way Well thankfully it sounds like he's loaded why not start a nest egg.
Speaker 2:You know I offered the cash. I did it for my first daughter and I did it for this one, and they want the show.
Speaker 7:They don't want the cash, they want the show. They have the nest egg. It's you.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, Once they get married it's over Are eggs vegan.
Speaker 6:There are no more eggs, no eggs are not vegan Because you said nest egg. Can anyone buy eggs anymore? Eggs are down.
Speaker 3:They're coming down.
Speaker 6:Yeah, oh, the price are coming down. Yeah, it's going to.
Speaker 2:We talked about it a little bit on another podcast. I remember they were like I don't know it was it equaled just a little under buck an egg. I'm like, go buy some chickens if you don't want to buy eggs go buy some chickens.
Speaker 6:It's a lot cheaper you got to build a coop a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I forget. You don't work with your hands. You don't even carry your base.
Speaker 1:You couldn't build a guys we don't know what to do. We haven't played a show in I don't know how long been a minute it's been a little bit. Aldine texted what was the other day or was it you that texted us and be like oh my god, can we go, please play a show?
Speaker 6:just wandering around yeah, have no purpose, kind of sad you too.
Speaker 2:Oh no, we're sad. I know we all aren't touring, it's the listeners. Man. Hey, this is a good place to unload, though Right here on the Try that in a Small Town podcast, it's a good place for you two to unload. You still look stage ready. What does that mean?
Speaker 1:unload Just your frustrations, your boredom, all of it hey, uh, I want to uh go to this real quick because I think this is going to be cool. We've introduced this thing. It's through speak pipe and, instead of people just uh submitting their questions via instagram or x or whatever it allows them, it allows us to hear their voice asking the question, which is kind of cool. So we've got a few. You guys want to see what we got oh, hey, yeah hey, jim, what do I do?
Speaker 1:just play this thing in the microphone and see if it works. All right, let's, let's find out what, uh, this one's from. It looks like I told them to leave their name and where they're from. I don't know. If they did, we'll see what happens hi.
Speaker 2:Um, my name is nick bruno and I was wondering what is your favorite memory?
Speaker 5:from a recording session, if you have one. Thank you for taking the time to listen to my question.
Speaker 1:Well, nick seems very polite and I think we should answer his question. Tully, do you have a recording session moment that stands out to you that you can tell? That I can tell. I do have a favorite one, but I probably shouldn't, yeah, probably shouldn't, shouldn't tell it um, what about the first time that, uh, we cut one of the songs that we wrote?
Speaker 6:yeah for jason, I love. I actually would go back a little further and I was gonna say try that in small time. It was one of those moments but I often think about, like the first time that we well, that we went in to make the first record, just because we were all sure that that would be the last time that we went in, you know.
Speaker 6:So I remember like specifically starting that whole record with Amarillo Sky and we played it down one time and walked back in the control room and it sounded so good and I was like, wow, this might actually work. This, this sounds pretty cool. You know what I mean. I just remember walking in there and then walking back into the studio to record it again.
Speaker 1:I was terrified, you know, through that first record. Well cause, we didn't know what I mean. I just remember walking in there and then walking back into the studio to record it again. I was terrified through that first record.
Speaker 6:Well, because we didn't know what we were doing. If you listen to that first record, which now and the way we hear things now you can tell, with half of that record we don't even know how to end the songs We'll just play out, we'll just do a vamp out of like noodling around and it just fades away. You know, but it was. It was cool though, because in that studio we're still record there today same studio, treasure isle, but that's where we used to do all the old demos before we did the album too, like back in the old days just learning how to be a band right.
Speaker 2:That's an amazing thing right there, though, that you guys are still cutting aldine's records at the same studio same studio, same engineer, same players that's amazing.
Speaker 6:You know how rare that is yeah, no, and it's like it's fun to talk about it because we get, every time we show up there we talk about this, but usually it's because, like, the place is actually like falling down. Yeah, but we're. But you're right, neil, it's like it is rare to, whereas I'm sitting in the same chair from, you know, 26, 27 years ago.
Speaker 2:It's amazing, you know everybody's usually looking for a different place, a different sound, experiment with a new, a new room, you know, and all that. Right, you're right. That's the mentality, right, you know, and all that stuff, right, you're right.
Speaker 6:That's the mentality, right? Yes, you know, everybody thinks. I mean at home, everybody probably thinks that we're sitting in this amazing-looking building A state-of-the-art studio and this place barely has, like you know, heat and air. You can still smell the smoke? No, you can. But there is a thing in that studio with that group of guys on the floor with Knox in there in the control room, Pete Coleman back there, Pete did Blondie and the Knack and stuff recorded them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Pat Benatar.
Speaker 6:It's old school, neil, you just nailed it. A lot of that rawness of that studio is part of the Aldine thing. So it's anyway, nick, that's. I really remember recording that first album like it was yesterday really. Let's see what this one is.
Speaker 5:Hey guys, I'm Carrie from Way Park, minnesota, and I have a logistics question. From your instruments point of view, can you take us through a day in their life on tour, like who packs, transports and sets them up? Do they fly on a plane? Or do they ride in the back of?
Speaker 5:a truck from stop to stop, who tunes them and how do you decide which guitar you're going to use for each song? And lastly, what is the worst onstage hiccup that you've had with your instrument and how did you handle it? And, lastly, what is the worst onstage hiccup that you've had with your instrument and how did you handle it? I hope this question doesn't strike the wrong chord.
Speaker 3:Oh, very nice Very nice, nice.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a lot of questions. Let me see what part do we want to get to.
Speaker 2:I want to know what mishap you've had. That's the one.
Speaker 1:That's part of her question that's a good one to start. Mishaps are really unfortunate. Um, have you dropped a guitar on stage? I have dropped, okay, so that's a good one. So there used to be a bit in the show where I would swing my guitar around my neck pretty impressive kind of like zz?
Speaker 1:I don't know. No, was like this, but I used to swing it around my neck and you know you have what they call strap locks on your guitar. For people to know that it locks the strap onto your guitar. Mostly when you buy a strap you just kind of pull it over the button. Not that safe if you're going to swing it. So I did swing the guitar, it did, the strap locks did malfunction and the guitar went flying.
Speaker 3:Ooh that could be dangerous. It could have been dangerous.
Speaker 1:I could have maybe killed somebody. You could have killed Aldine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, I could have been out of a job, yeah.
Speaker 1:That guitar rest in peace. So, that's a mishap totally.
Speaker 3:You want to talk about one, the second, the second part two was, uh, different bases or guitars for different songs, like I think that's. I definitely have a lot unfortunately you know we've talked about this before.
Speaker 1:Like I grew up, if you have one guitar, that's amazing, it's you. Oh, my god, I got this guitar and you think that's my guitar. Well, well, I guess, unfortunately, or whatever, there's a lot of songs that have different tunings. They have different sounds, so I probably change guitars every song. Now I'll reintroduce the guitar through the set, but every song is a new guitar. I do have a tech. Tully has a tech. They tune the guitars, they're responsible for packing. They go on a bus, just like we do. You know that or I should say a semi, all the gear. They go town to town with it um, what's her name?
Speaker 2:that asked the question. What's her name is carrie, carrie, yeah, carrie, you should see them without their texts. It's really lonely, it's actually sad, it's actually really pathetic. They have a heart for them.
Speaker 6:I actually broke into a cold sweat at the Ryman when I realized wait, where are my cords and my tuner? That was on me.
Speaker 2:You had to tune your own bass, poor you.
Speaker 3:He's like what are these lights? But you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean without getting too deep in the woods. It's like I don't even know how my guitar rig works anymore. Like there's I have this ground control thing that if I want delay and reverb and chorus on something, I just press the pedal. I know that part, but it's like connected through some weird thing and goes back to different effect pedals on the back and like if something goes out, I'm like If something goes wrong, you'll know it, because one of our techs will be crawling on their knees through the dark up to the board and fiddling with stuff.
Speaker 1:So I don't know how it works. Yeah, we're very thankful for all of our crew, the techs. Believe me, we're blessed and, like these guys say, it's to the point of ridiculous.
Speaker 6:We do have an amazing road crew though. Yeah, I'd say one of the, I mean, I think obviously I'm biased, but one of the best. They're just incredible. When you got to have them, yeah, oh well, I mean, it's impossible. We always walk out of there after the show because usually when they're sitting up we're not awake. These guys are up early. Oh, they're up at 7. So when we go get our coffee at 11, stuff's set up, yeah Right.
Speaker 1:And then after the show's done, we always walk and it's like completely, they tear that stuff down so quick, like an hour yeah, you'd be amazed at how quickly they can tear down all the lights, all the staging, all the amps, and people don't realize this. You know, they see, you know how many put you on stage five or six, and they don't realize there's an army of people that work with jason aldean, the aldean army, uh, that go there and they set up, like tully says, at 7 am, they're tearing down at 1 am and they're sleeping that five hours in between.
Speaker 2:I don't think they sleep five hours yeah, they might not not that, not those guys sounds like my monday morning with lana. You guys, you guys are borderline bubble people.
Speaker 1:Are we going?
Speaker 2:back to the bubble Yep borderline, Borderline bubble people. Why do you say this? I don't know Catering.
Speaker 3:Sleeping in. There are different levels of bubbles.
Speaker 1:They do offer vegan options at our catering as well, they do.
Speaker 6:And you have to for food allergies. You know what's funny, neil? It's funny you said that because we always joke about it at our table as well they do. And you have to for food allergies. Well, you know what's funny, neil? It's funny you said that because we always joke about it. It is living in a bubble, for sure, because play the show, get off stage about 11.30, hang out a couple hours, get back in our bus and our bunks about three-ish and we wake up and it all happens again in a different place. So all that going around us, really we are caught.
Speaker 2:I can imagine y'all's schedule coming off a tour to right now.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it gets different. That's where these books come in handy A battle-tested guide to enduring relationship. That's a post-tour book for musicians as well.
Speaker 1:You bet it is oh my gosh hey guys, we uh, we gotta wrap this up. But you know, I kind of teased this early in the year, I didn't know if it was true. But we do have some really big guests uh coming on and we're we're pumped and we're thankful we got some great people coming on. So stick with us. You're watching on youtube. Uh, leave us a review, ed. You're killing the reviews. Yep, do the uh. Do the five stars. Jim's waving at me for you.
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Speaker 1:We need to talk about e-spaces we need to talk about e-spaces real quick. New sponsor yes you want to talk about your buddy that you take money for I'll play golf with him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he owns a company, e-spaces, and we may wind up moving our studios. We don't know, but we're going back and forth.
Speaker 2:Maybe we may go back and forth it's unbelievable yeah e-spaces they're they're, uh, they're, they're built their floors that they have in these high rises downtown nashville and they got one coming over in cool Springs. They're super nice, they're super innovative, they're the technology is super up to date. It's really cool. And on music row right and then one one music row there's one on music row and and they're going to be expanding probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know we should do.
Speaker 6:What's that? This comes back to the RV bus thing. Oh, try that on a small town tour, podcast tour, and we go out and we'll do it in a restaurant or local bar. Small town People come out, take their questions. Don't give it away too early. Yeah, it'd be fun, though your wish might come't give it away too early.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it'd be fun though your wish might come true, we'll expand later.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's more on that to come, yeah, restaurant bar.
Speaker 2:You never know what's coming down. I like the teas.
Speaker 3:they're telling I like the teas.
Speaker 1:I love it. Patriot Mobile we're thankful for them. Original Glory, always, always a pleasure. We love those guys. I got to the YouTube. What else do we got hey Instagram? Follow us on X man, we need some followers guys Jump over, get over to the X.
Speaker 5:We need some X followers.
Speaker 1:I think that's about it, right. Yeah, what an episode Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3:That's a lot in this episode. That is a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And there's a thankful for all of you, for kayla, for thrash, for tk, and I'm the cop. No, I don't know, I don't know we haven't said it on yet.
Speaker 1:We'll figure it out. Yeah, you come all right.
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