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From Hicktown to Headliner: Jason Aldean's 20-Year Musical Journey :: Ep 56 Try That in a Small Town Podcast

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Twenty years ago, a small-town Georgia man with a dream released "Hicktown" and changed country music forever. Now, Jason Aldean sits down with us to unpack the remarkable journey from those uncertain early days to stadium-headlining superstardom.

In this revealing conversation, Aldean takes us behind the velvet rope of the music industry, sharing how he nearly passed on songs that became career-defining hits and watched others he declined become massive successes for fellow artists. "I think songs land where they're supposed to," he reflects, detailing his instinctive approach to selecting material that genuinely resonates with him rather than chasing trends or concepts.

The camaraderie between Aldean and the podcast hosts creates an intimate atmosphere as they reminisce about the lean years—playing to near-empty rooms, surviving on gas station food, and the faithful few who saw something special before the rest of the world caught on. Particularly moving is Aldean's tribute to producer Michael Knox, the one person who never abandoned ship when record deals fell apart: "I owe that guy everything."

Exclusive reveals about his upcoming album (including multiple high-profile duets) will excite longtime fans, while his candid takes on everything from NFL draft picks to reality TV offers provide a glimpse at the man behind the music. Aldean's perspective on artistic integrity resonates throughout, especially when discussing how streaming has changed listeners' relationship with music: "I think a little bit of that's lost now."

Whether you've followed Aldean since "Hicktown" or discovered him through "Try That in a Small Town," this conversation offers both nostalgia and fresh insights from an artist who's remained true to himself through two decades of country music evolution. Subscribe now and join us for this unforgettable journey through the highs, lows, and everything in between with one of country's most authentic voices.

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Speaker 1:

I think college kids should be paid to play right Like their days. It's not like a normal college kid. They don't just get to go to class and go home and study and it's like dude, whether it's baseball, football, whatever it's like. It is a thing, it is a job when you're in college. And so do.

Speaker 1:

I think those guys should be compensated for that. Yeah, they can't really go work or do whatever, so I think they should make enough money to like get them through whatever. I think there should be some sort of cap on that. It's awesome that they.

Speaker 3:

What would you say if, if, if somebody wanted to come to you and go, we want to do a reality show at your house.

Speaker 1:

They have already always happened multiple times. Are you serious? Yeah, and I remember pulling backstage we're opening for tim mcraw. Tim's got all his buses and trucks and stuff back there. And I just remember going man, how do we go from our thing to this thing? And I remember Kevin going three and a half minutes. Man, you just need the right three and a half minutes, meaning it takes one song to change the game. The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.

Speaker 4:

Try that in a Small Town. And we are back with another episode of the Try that in a Small Town podcast coming to you from the Patriot Mobile Studios. It still sounds good Kalo Thrash TK. I'm current. Tonight we got the OG the good one, the great one, the Peach man, the Peach man, peach.

Speaker 1:

Man, we're starting with the nicknames. I know there was a couple you guys were talking about nicknames on one of the episodes and we never got to yours.

Speaker 3:

I don't think. I think it's Darryl, it's.

Speaker 1:

Darryl, it's close. It starts with a D so yeah, there is a nickname. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

It's not flattering. That's great. No, there's a nickname that's been around.

Speaker 4:

It starts with a D.

Speaker 1:

You got Tick or TK, we call him. You got Kurt Kurtman A lot of people say.

Speaker 4:

Korn Kornman's a big one, kirtman.

Speaker 1:

Dew is the other one, dew.

Speaker 4:

You should give people how that came about. Yeah, totally, it's a long story.

Speaker 8:

I like Dew, dew's kind of cool.

Speaker 3:

It's like Loretta Lynn's husband.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, dew, that is his nickname.

Speaker 1:

Dew Dew. I think his was Dool. No, it was Dew at being like Tommy Lee Jones in the movie. But go ahead, it might have been the way she was saying it.

Speaker 3:

It's the way she said it.

Speaker 8:

It's the way she said it. It's so country.

Speaker 3:

It's like dude I don't know.

Speaker 1:

So how did Kurt get the name Kurt man or do? How did do come about Actually?

Speaker 4:

you remember it, we were in a car with a record, rep Lee Adams.

Speaker 1:

It's very, very very fuzzy. It's pretty fuzzy well, we had been on the road. We were delirious. We had been on the road for it was like during the radio tour type stuff and you know early days and I don't know what it was.

Speaker 6:

But tully got on this thing about happy texas I was, yeah, probably very hungover or drunk, depending on yeah, what time of morning. Probably, yeah, I can't remember exactly, but it was some sort of fake story. I was made up this alter ego.

Speaker 4:

You were just coming up with a bit.

Speaker 6:

From happy Texas.

Speaker 1:

Kurt Mandu.

Speaker 6:

From happy Texas.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, kurt Mandu, and he did this in the car for hours, like two hours, and so next thing we know everybody's calling Kurt Dew Kurt.

Speaker 4:

Man. Dew Kurt whatever, and it got shortened to Joe or Kurtman.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, on the road, everybody's got a name JA Peach, peach Band. I don't know if Kurt wants a nickname Thrash K-Lo.

Speaker 3:

I don't think he wants one though he doesn't want tattoos. None of us want them. I mean, he doesn't want it.

Speaker 1:

I didn't I didn't pick mine ago. You know, if I'd have picked it, it'd have been some like thrash is better than peach maverick for sure.

Speaker 6:

You know, that's my wait, wait, wait I'm, I'm, my goose, you're goose, I've always been mad, and this is our life in a nutshell we'll talk about that off there in a nutshell, we'll talk about.

Speaker 4:

We'll talk about that off there. Hey what? I think we kind of breezed by this, uh, in the last episode, I guess, but we, we had our one year anniversary as a podcast, which is pretty cool it was pretty amazing yeah and jason was obviously our first guest which aired a year to the day.

Speaker 4:

So we got to ask you, uh, a two-part question did you think that we'd last a year? B, because you actually watch, which I think is pretty funny you'll be watching our episodes. Who did you like watching us do so? Did you think we'd last a year?

Speaker 1:

I think in the beginning it's like you guys are going to do a podcast and I think in our world, you know, I mean this is a business of ideas, right?

Speaker 1:

so, like everybody's constantly hey, I'm going to start this company and I'm going to do this, I'm going to start a podcast and I'm going to, you know, go host a show and I'm going to. You know, there's a lot of that, obviously. I know you guys, I know you guys, and so I'm like I think this will be cool, but, like anything, it's getting it out there, making people aware that it's out, and just you know things like that. So you know, I think, for me, I thought it was cool, you guys were doing it. I don't think I really had an understanding of what that was going to look like until I came in the first time and it's like, oh OK, this is going to be fun. And so, even now, I like podcasts, man, I'll drive around, drive my kids to school and throw on a podcast and listen to it. You know, and you know I enjoyed.

Speaker 7:

I just listened to the one you guys did with Cletus.

Speaker 1:

I've known Cletus forever. We actually came out of the same nightclub, the Buck Board in Atlanta.

Speaker 3:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Cletus kind of. That's where he kind of got his start.

Speaker 1:

That's where Michael Knox discovered me. He was in the Buckboard. Darren Norwood came out of there. Who else man, I don't know. It was like. That was kind of like a little hotspot back in the late 90s, mid-late 90s, and so listen to Cletus was awesome. Obviously Hulk Hogan one of our idols, you know as a kid of the 80s like Hulk Hogan was the man, so I got to be friends with him and to listen to him on the podcast was really cool. I don't know. I mean there's been a lot Cash Patel man. Cash was really awesome to have on, so glad he was an Aldean fan.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, oh my God, that's how we knew he was a cool guy.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. But no, you guys have done awesome, man, and it's been really cool to watch it and kind of be on the first one and watch it take off and watch everybody else come on board and you know, sometimes you guys get people on here that I'm like how did you guys pull that? Off man, it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 4:

Well, we say that you'll go do something for them, yeah.

Speaker 1:

You have a lot of benefits.

Speaker 6:

It's coming in different areas. I'll take it for the team boys. It's fun, so cool time. We are gearing up for the new tour, which this one's cool because it's 20 years jeez, since the hicktown album song single album talking about your hair? Did you think we were going to last? That's the question. Like we talk about this, a lot like making that album, I know we all thought god, will we get?

Speaker 4:

to do this again. Yeah, yeah, I think it was well just making the album.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, if you remember, like before anything had come out, I remember sitting in this in the studio that we still sit in today. I remember sitting in this in the studio that we still sit in today thinking. I remember like playing, thinking, wow, this is really cool, will we get to do this again?

Speaker 1:

And so well, here we are.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I mean, I think for me.

Speaker 1:

I mean you go back 20 years since we, you know, dropped that album and Hicktown came out and all that you know think came out in april of 05 or something like that. But so 20 years and I think when we went in to make that album, I mean we had already been in there cutting demos and kind of doing that thing and it's like. So for me, cutting the album was like I was excited to feel like I was working towards something, like it was something that was going to be out right, because we had always been cut demos that we were trying to get a deal on, and so you pitch those things to the label and then you go play them for mom and daddy and everybody at home and then other than that, nobody's hearing it, right. So we were cutting an album that people were going to hear and you know, I just remember thinking, I thought in my mind, like what we were doing was cool. Um, I think we probably thought it was better than it was at the time. You know, I think it was different at the time, which was kind of what set us apart. But I think we were all still kind of learning and you know, even though we had all kind of done our thing individually. It's like all of a sudden we were all kind of coming together as a truly as a band and like trying to figure this out. And so I think that took some time.

Speaker 1:

And you know, cutting the first album, I just I didn't know what to expect. I just I was like man, this has just been. You know, I'd had record deals and lost them. And you know, here I got another one. We're cutting.

Speaker 1:

I'm like is this thing ever going to see the light of day? I don't know. You know this could be another thing where it just goes away or they decide, ah, this record sucks and you sucks, and you know we're not gonna do this or whatever you know. And so for me, I mean, until that single hit radio and like the album was in the store and people could go get it, it was like I just didn't. I tried not to get like too wrapped up in. Oh, I got a record deal and like it's gonna be awesome and whatever it was like. It was still like we had nothing we had. We had a record deal on paper but no hit, no money, still starving. You know, it's like it. The record deal really didn't mean anything to me at the time until we could get out and have a hit and start going and like really because you'd already been in town and failed for a while.

Speaker 4:

You had a deal previous to that. So I think you kind of understood hey, there's still, there's still stuff to happen here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean getting the record deals like the tip of the iceberg right, like you get that and that's cool, that's a start. But then I mean you've got to have the label behind you, like they've got to be interested in what you're doing and feel like you're bringing something cool to the table and really get behind you. And we've always had the staff at broken bow that's, you know, been incredible with that. They've always been on board with us and you know they didn't have a choice shit, we're the only, we were the only artists there at the time. You know it was like us and you know, craig morgan had had a couple hits, sheree austin had had a couple hits, but like past that, like they didn't have a flagship artist for the label and they were just trying to get that label up and running.

Speaker 1:

And you know, here we come along and it's like, well, I guess we'll put it behind this guy and you know, and it just, you know, we just had a great team around us and I think, uh, for the for the parts where we were kind of lacking in the early days, we had a really good team to kind of pick up those pieces and and once we got on the road and started doing our thing. It's like we were always confident in that part of it, like going out and playing live. It's like if you give us a hit we're golden. We just didn't have a hit, you know. And so when hicktown became a hit and that thing started to build, it was like, okay, here we go. And then we just kind of refined it over the years as as we went did you listen to the michael knox episode?

Speaker 3:

I didn't, you did how? Accurate how accurate was it.

Speaker 1:

This is great say michael's is, you know 85 accurate or so there was some, there was some, uh, some details. I was like did that maybe that I don't know well, it's a long.

Speaker 4:

In fairness, that's a long time, dude it's, but I've known knox for 20.

Speaker 3:

I mean 98, so 20 yeah god, I love him, I love that dude eight years.

Speaker 1:

So whatever, like I mean hell. You know I've known nox over half my life. You know he's the guy that brought me here and he's the reason. I know tully and kurt and you and you and you know it's just like the dude changed my life forever. I'll say this I came to town as a kid from Georgia that was doing pretty good down in the clubs in Georgia and Florida and felt good about what we were doing, felt good about myself.

Speaker 1:

We were building a little following and starting to get some heat. Then I come to town and I'm thinking, oh, this is going to be awesome, pick up where I left off down in Georgia and Florida. And it's like, nah, you know, it was a whole different thing. And you know there was a lot of people on board in the early days that were excited about what I was doing and all that. That. When I lost my deal and those kind of things, those people kind of peeled off and Michael was the the only one that kind of stayed there and saw it through and it's like, hey, just lost that record deal, we're going to go get another one, we're going to keep going in. And it's just like that relentless attitude, man, and that was like. That was something to me, that was I needed at the time, and I don't think, like you know, we would be sitting here if his mentality wasn't like that. So I mean, I owe that guy everything, but his story is about 85 percent well you know what I love about starting.

Speaker 6:

Every year we get to start a new tour and I always think about the same thing. And you kind of just talked about a little bit, you know, the years before we made that first album, you know, and we talk about doing showcases and basically trying to get a record deal and playing for labels, playing a lot of the same songs. We were playing amaryllis sky and why, and johnny cash and you gotta remember too like we look awful.

Speaker 1:

I mean, listen, this isn't like what you see now what do you mean?

Speaker 3:

looked awful.

Speaker 1:

What are you talking? We did not look good like we. You know, it wasn't a thing where we were getting like our clothes tailored and everything.

Speaker 1:

Look I'm up there in a baggy ass you know, button-up shirt and like it's like man, this is kind of the vibe, but like I don't have the money to go get my, I don't have the money to go get my stuff tailored. So here it is. You know, and like these guys I mean kurt in the first or second video had a pair of chuck taylor converse that he wore and all the time and they they were splitting open. He had duct tape wrapped around them and you can see it in the video, like, and that's where we were at.

Speaker 4:

It wasn't to be cool, it was rock and roll, so yeah it's not like now you go out and see it's like, oh, like, oh.

Speaker 1:

This is a really refined version of like what we do. Back then it was still kind of rough, and you know it was like it took somebody to see that and go there's something in there. I don't know, it's cool, there's something in there. And Knox was, you know, saw something we were playing one night, and, and you know that was that.

Speaker 6:

So I love those days, though because I feel like you know it was struggling then.

Speaker 1:

But something about looking back on it where, like, beginning of every tour, like god, you know, like every tour like God, you know, like it always feels the struggle, is what I think about the most now, like and really well, I think it's yeah, I think it's just being thankful or, like you know, even though it to sit here and say, like man, it was 20 years ago, we were getting started and we put out this and we were playing all these you know crazy shows or whatever. And I think now it's just thankful. It's like 20 years in and we're still able to go out every year and, like you know, have this new rig and this new tour and keep like creating this stuff every year, to go out and play our songs. And it's cool, man, like I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I mean I think that's what we always wanted to do, but it's like hell, everybody wants to do that. But there's, like this 1% of people that get to do it and, for whatever reason, we're in that club, and so every year it's pretty cool to unveil all those things and go damn. And then look and go, man, the first 10 shows are already sold out. So there's that, and then it it's like man, 20 years in, we're still, you know, people still care and we can still go do this. I think that's all we ever really wanted to do. So, um, yeah, I'm with you. I mean it's always cool to to get started for the the start of the tour yeah, and we and you know it still blows my mind that we have catering after 20 something years.

Speaker 6:

I remember you know what I was telling someone the other day I think it was Keller. Actually my son was saying food's always so good. I'm like back in the day when we first started, we were doing 200 shows a year and you guys know we were playing bars on a Friday night, maybe a fair somewhere on a Saturday.

Speaker 1:

You're getting chicken fingers from the bar and fries.

Speaker 6:

I mean we ate Subway A lot. It was like 15 days in a row which we thought was healthy or barbecue.

Speaker 4:

Healthier at the time.

Speaker 8:

That ain't work for Jared Well other things messed him up. It wasn't the Subway sandwiches.

Speaker 1:

Things went dark for Jared.

Speaker 4:

He's got a Netflix special and everything special. Now I started to watch it. I had to turn it off.

Speaker 1:

It's too much.

Speaker 6:

I'm not saying it might not be on netflix, but it's on one of them, yeah no, but seriously, like we're eating, and that I mean to to now, it's like holy crap. No, you know, it's still. It's still amazing and so fun and it's such a proud moment to think, oh, we've been doing this together for so long and we and we got to where we wanted to go. But I know that we still have that feeling of like I don't want it to go away. Well, and I think it's the secret sauce, yeah, and I think that's the thing.

Speaker 1:

It's like, you know, there's this fine line of going hey, this is what I always wanted to do and we did all that stuff.

Speaker 1:

You know there's most of it we've done, you know, but there's also that side of like man, I want to keep creating music and keep doing stuff we haven't done and go out and make the content for the shows different, and every year it's like they're getting a different experience when they come to the shows.

Speaker 1:

And I think for us it's always been focusing on music, making sure, like, as we get older in the business, like to try and keep the music still cool and and you know, stuff that I don't know that we would, we would say or that we would do, and and we're not going to do songs like hick town and those kind of things that we did when I was 28, I'm hell, I'm 48 now.

Speaker 1:

So you, you know, you got, we did a lot of those things which I probably wouldn't cut now, but I feel like the stuff we do now is is some of the best stuff we've we've done, like some of the coolest songs that we've cut, and so you know, to me that's a big part of it and that's always what makes everything else go. So as long as we're cutting great records and cool things and creating these moments you know, the shows and people being interested and staying involved in what we're doing that kind of stuff will just come as long as we're doing this other thing and that's kind of what I've always tried to focus on- I remember watching sorry Caleb, no, go ahead.

Speaker 6:

I remember when we were opening for Rascal Flatts we had Gary on here and I remember very clearly watching their show after we played at seven o'clock and played four or five songs and that point they were fighting massive.

Speaker 1:

I mean they were the biggest, one of the biggest bands in the world they were firing.

Speaker 6:

I remember I think we're all sitting watching this I remember saying man, could you imagine like coming to an arena that you're headlining, you know, and it's still like just sitting here with you guys. It's like I, that's what I. I still get off on that. Like you know, the grind was so I wouldn't change a mile of it.

Speaker 1:

No, not one mile of any bus ride, you know, or anything, or van ride, you know, and that's that's what's great about the business, yeah, well, and I think that's where, like as bandmates, as, like you know, brothers on the road, kind of thing, like that's where you learn to like, that's where you gel, you know the when you're staying in the crappy hotel rooms and you know you're wheeling your luggage down, you know a1a to go to a you know a place to take a shower, because there's no place at the venue and we're all lugging our shit down the street.

Speaker 1:

You know, it's like. You know, you learned it. Like pride becomes a thing of like you don't have pride in the daytime, you just there's only like an hour and a half, two hours a night where you're cool. Where you're cool and, and I think, like you know, you just live with everybody. I mean, we're on the road 250 days a year or whatever it is, and it's like you just get really tight and learn to like.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's family, you know, and and so, um, I don't know for it to start kind of like it did, and us to still be, like you were saying, like with you know, rascal flats, I remember walking out and just going, man, like we're, even though we were close, like we were playing on the same show and whatever it was like this is a different, this is a different thing, and I don't know how to go. Take us from Hicktown and Y to. You know what hurts the most? I don't, that's a, you know. Obviously it was a song that was their big one, that really launched them into the stratosphere, and like we're sitting there on tour with them watching that and I'm like man, we aren't there yet.

Speaker 1:

You know, and I don't know how to get there and I remember asking kevin neal, who has been my agent forever and just like og fam guy that's been with us from the beginning, and I remember pulling backstage we're opening for tim mcgraw at tampa at the ask gary up at the whatever that thing's called.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and so we pull in, tim's got all his buses and trucks and stuff back there. And I just remember going, man, like this is ridiculous, like how do we go from our thing to this thing? And and I remember kevin going or I said what does it take to go from that type, from our thing to that thing? And he's like three and a half minutes. Man, you just, you just need the right three and a half minutes, meaning it takes one song to change the game. And when she's country came out, man, that was the one, it just it lit the fuse for that. And then we backed, you know, that album had some big ones on it, and then we followed it up with my kind of party record and night train and it was just like a rocket after that. So you know, I think we didn't know how to make that happen. And then all of a sudden we were just like strapped to a rocket in the middle of it. You know, it's like we didn't even see it coming.

Speaker 6:

Really, but all those showcases what I love thinking about, though, you know, for like 10 people sometimes, oh yeah, 15 people. Two people Stretching it. Two people, or maybe it was 20, then it went down to four. Record companies would come in.

Speaker 1:

It'd be like the president of the record company and it'd be like Tony Brown, larry Willoughby and then one other A&R person Go in you play a couple songs. I'd watch them talk to Knox for a minute and then shit, they'd leave.

Speaker 6:

You know, and you're just like, hey, I'm assuming you're not in Not having the first song sometimes, but we never stopped performing and I think what that set us up for was those years of opening and playing clubs, because even when hicktown was moving up the charts, we'd still like we may play a market one night where it's a pack club, but then the next night there could be 50 people there. So I think it set us up for like we played every show, which I'm this is what I'm most proud of we never took a night off you never took a night off.

Speaker 6:

You never mailed one in, and I think that's well, I think it was a different time too.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I think at the time we came out, you know, we didn't have social media and all that stuff to kind of like help the process it wasn't like hey, we're in Owensboro, kentucky, tonight.

Speaker 1:

Come see us like we didn't have that. So it was like you had to do it grassroots style. You had to go out and play a bar and just punch them right in the face so they would go and tell all their friends holy shit, you guys missed this. You got to come see these guys and then the next time we come back to town, it was just constantly hitting them over the head, going, hey, if you missed it last time, you better come this time. And we would ramp it up every time.

Speaker 1:

And as we started getting a little bit more of a following you know, I mean on stage we start getting a little bit more swagger and you know, okay, we got a couple hits. Now we can, you know it's you start to turn that corner a little bit and you know, and we just had to do it that way, we didn't have another option. So, um, you know, it was getting your songs played on radio, trying to get a video on cmt and going out and just playing as many shows as you could and basically just not coming off the road, which is what we did for a few years.

Speaker 8:

So man I was kind of curious about, because you mentioned making records and stuff. Like, let's say, you're you know a couple singles deep and you're thinking about recording a new one and everything In your mind are you thinking about because not everybody does records and you're still cutting records and everything and putting a bunch of songs on there. People are just releasing stuff, just putting it out. Putting it out, do you have a theme? Do you think, hey, I want to do this, or do you wait to find a couple songs that are like, okay, I love this. Couple songs it's like, okay, I love this and you build something around it like what, what's your, what's your mindset?

Speaker 1:

the one yeah, the way it's always worked for me is like I've never gone in and went. Oh, I want to go cut this really artsy. You know bluegrassy country record, kind of like. I don't, we don't do that. Like for me, it's songs come in and I just have I don't know. Like for me, I just have this thing.

Speaker 1:

When I hear the song, I'm like I love it. I want to listen to that song again. I feel like I could sing that. I feel like, you know, it almost feels like a song that I wrote. Like that's how I feel. I love the melody. You know I can do that and I want to hear that again. I want to play it over and over and over.

Speaker 1:

When I get those songs in, they go in a pile, and so it's never really about like what the album looks like. It's just one day I turn around and there's like 15 songs in that pile and it's like okay, and then some of them may fall out. I'd be like, hey, that one's kind of getting old, like I don't, you know, with these songs that I've just kind of accumulated or found, or these guys have written or we've written or whatever. And then you'd look over there and go, all right, let's go cut all this stuff. And then we go cut it all and it it just turns out the way it does. You know, it's like it's nothing.

Speaker 1:

You know, I don't think we ever overthink that stuff or sit there and go, oh, we need this or we need that. It's like, man, I like that, that's what I want to sing. I think that'll be cool for a record or that'll be cool for a live thing or whatever its lane is for that record. And there's things that I love and take in there knocks hates. There's things I love these guys don't really like sometimes, but I think for me those songs in my mind, mind, if I cut a song, if I go in, spend the time to cut it, sing it, spend time on it, to me it has a place somewhere. I may not always know exactly what that is or we may not get to it at some point, but to me it's like, hey, that thing is good enough to cut and like it could have a moment somewhere, and I don't know what that looks like, but let's cut it, it's good enough to cut.

Speaker 3:

I think anything I've ever had cut that you've cut of mine you were never in mind, ever, when writing it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was never yeah, because you guys were writing for people that were bigger.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no no no, no, no, no, no, you're wrong. No, it was about writing.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm not, it was just about writing. You didn't start writing for me until I hit you, neil, neil.

Speaker 8:

I should have kept my damn mouth shut. Neil, Neil, start over. Where else are you going to go with?

Speaker 7:

this no, no, no no.

Speaker 3:

It was just about writing a good song. We didn't have anybody in mind.

Speaker 1:

Nobody. Writers go, hey, what's what's al dean, what's he want to say? And I go, I don't know what he wants to say to me. Never have to me. It's I never have to me.

Speaker 1:

It's things you know that I can relate to or or things that, like you know, I'm like oh, I love that. Like you know that little trill or that, you know that melody or whatever, that bridge or whatever it is. And then it's like you start breaking down the song. It's like you know, I feel, feel like that's something I would want to get in the room and write or, like you know, be a part of, or like I don't know. And so when I hear those songs, it's I mean like try it in a small town.

Speaker 1:

I mean I don't even think I heard the whole song, I just heard like a verse course stopped. It called them like hey, we stopped it called them like hey, we're cutting this thing, like soon. I mean, and I immediately started sending it to everybody going hey, this is our first single off the record, you know, and we had never even cut it yet. But I'm like this is a single. We need to get a video goal, cause I just knew like that was a song that was going to move the needle, like it, you know, it was touching on a subject that I was passionate about. That was something that I felt like needed to be touched on and I felt like man, somebody's going to come out and say this Well, no, we did say there's only one dude that will ever cut this song.

Speaker 3:

As good as the song is there's only one dude that'll say it.

Speaker 1:

I heard the gun part and I went oh, they'll probably, you know, say something about that, and here we go, and that was it. But it's like when I hear those things, like that it's you know, I mean we got things we've cut for the new album, and it's just like I get in my truck and it's like I mean they're on repeat and I just don't get tired of them quick, I play them. I mean, I have to play them to learn them, and so I'm just like I want to play them a lot and it's, if I still keep liking them, I'm like all right, I gotta trust that. That's a gut instinct thing, I gotta trust that. And if it's one that I'm like you know, this one's in the pile but I keep skipping over it, I'm like that's one I need to look at and go, man, I don't know, I don't, I don't know, I don't think that one's gonna like if it does something, it's gonna be an album cut, it's not gonna, and I know that going in.

Speaker 4:

right, so we'll give people a little insight, because you know we were talking about hicktown. That was 20 years ago. Uh, we have been recording a new album this year. Can you give people any kind of insight what they might expect for the album coming up, anything to look forward to, any kind of yeah, I mean secrets?

Speaker 1:

any, we got some stuff going on. You know, um, you know there's going to be some duet stuff on this record, multiple duet things, I think breaking news right here. You got exclusive, I mean, but we've been working on this.

Speaker 4:

I mean writing for these guys been writing.

Speaker 1:

We've been working on this, I mean writing for it. These guys have been writing. We've been writing and recording stuff for the last eight months or so something like that. I don't know, but we got some duets on it and I think we're kind of at a different place.

Speaker 3:

You're not going to name names. No Duets, I don't think it's time for that.

Speaker 1:

I got to get some of these people on tape before I start going oh so-and-so's doing the song.

Speaker 7:

No, I'm not.

Speaker 1:

But we got some cool things like that and, like I said earlier, man, I think some of the coolest songs and I feel like I'm at a point in my career in what we do that you know certain songs that I probably would have cut back in the day a little tongue in cheek or like whatever and put these things out and go oh, I wonder if that, you know, this is kind of quirky. I think we're at a different place now where it's like we want to like put out just things that we think are really cool, that we want to go out and play. You know that fire us up to get on stage and go hey, you know, this isn't these kinds of songs, these are. It's a different era, I think, for what we're doing and really cool stuff.

Speaker 1:

Man, some of the stuff we got on the on the album is like throwback 80 stuff, and then there's some really like progressive stuff and it's kind of like if anybody's bought one of our albums over the years, I mean you got everything from country, rock and roll, r&b, hip-hop, blues, I mean there's a little bit of all of it and I don't think this record's any different. I mean, I think that's a lot of that, but I think, um, there's some. There's some pretty strong ones on this record, by the way you could give him.

Speaker 6:

I'm sorry, kirk, you could give a master class and should to young artists about really paying attention to your fan base, because I've never seen an artist more tapped in which plays in the Try that in a Small Town thing, tapped into who. You know who your fan base is and how to grow it, but also how to keep it. You know, and I think we just be honest.

Speaker 6:

I think that's good they get too wrapped up with what so-and-so gonna think on music row, because that's that's the issue, like find what you do, go out and do it, don't chase. Don't chase the trends. Experiment when you can yeah, you know, with with success gives you a little bit more rope but also when to dial it in. I think it's a, it's a, it's a really a lost art like, I think, the new artist well, I've never.

Speaker 1:

I've never had anybody go in and like pick my songs out and go, here's your record. Like I just don't do that. You know what I mean. Like a and r people I don't know like they're great, but except for to me personally, when it comes to picking songs, I don't.

Speaker 1:

I trust one per, michael knox. Yeah, it kind of gets. You know, I mean, and we're not always on the same. These guys get it because they played with me for so long. And you know I mean, and we're not always on the same, these guys get it because they played with me for so long and you know we kind of come from the same background. So they know, like, if it's something I would say or not say or you know whatever, but it's like I just don't trust people to go and find those songs for me. I just don't think it's going to happen because they're in this town. Everybody comes.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I found that you know so-and-so wrote this huge hit and they play it for you and I'm like, no, that's like.

Speaker 1:

No, that's not even an album cut for me and you know, but they're trying to sell you that. It's a big hit, you know, and it's like I've done this long enough to know when one's a badass and one's not, you know, and so you know I just to me like that's a really important piece of the puzzle because without that, the touring and the all the other stuff, that doesn't happen. So you know, coming down to songs, making sure that you know at least the core you got, I always like to make sure we got about six or eight things on the record that are like single worthy that I know I'm pretty good with putting any of those six or eight out. You know they're pretty solid and so and that's kind of how I've always done it. And you know, I think as as we've gotten older these guys have become better songwriters, which is, you know, they used to write stuff and send to me and I'll be like nope is that?

Speaker 8:

is that the biggest surprise of your career? That these two guys have gotten better songwriters. That's the biggest.

Speaker 1:

I'll tell you you what it is a blessing, it's fair, yeah, it's been a blessing because, honestly, when they first kind of started writing and Tully and I started writing together in 99, we started writing songs and stuff. They weren't good but we were writing them and we cut a few of them and so you know. But I think at some point these guys would write stuff. But I think at some point these guys would write stuff and they started trying to get some songs on the album, which was great. Anytime you don't have to go looking for something. You've got guys coming in going hey man, here's a badass song, and check this out. That's a great thing for me.

Speaker 1:

But in the beginning, when they would do something every now and then there would be something cool like Kurt had they don't know, I think it was a single force Kurt had at one point and then they kind of started writing some things that were coming in and it's like that's cool. But in the beginning it was like no, that ain't it, that ain't the one. And then every once in a while they'd get one in and and then they're get two in and then now it's like just essentially a collaboration. You know, these guys are writing every day for the record. We're bouncing ideas around all the time and, um, it's just kind of become a different dynamic now, which is really fun, I think, for all of us to kind of not only record it and get to go play it, but to, like you know us, write it and just kind of have it all in house with our little crew that we started with, like that's a, that's a cool thing, I think for us, yeah, it's an awesome thing uh, hey, guys, stick with us.

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Speaker 4:

Well, I got this. We've been talking a little bit about the Titans. You know the draft. They just got Cam Ward Screw the NFL.

Speaker 3:

Let's talk college.

Speaker 1:

Oh, come on real quick. Well, the draft just happened, so I get it. It just happened.

Speaker 4:

First of all, Cam Ward, wait and see, or do you like it?

Speaker 1:

I to wait and see. I mean, I think all these guys coming out of college, you know they all have a lot of hype around them and you know it's. I mean, no question, they're great athletes and whatever, but I mean you guys are sports fans too. I mean, until they get in, whatever that team system is, and it either clicks or it doesn't, and then it wasn't the best quarterback stable coming out of college.

Speaker 3:

No, let's get to the other one, I feel like we got the best available. I do too. I agree with that.

Speaker 1:

They tried to get some weapons for him too.

Speaker 3:

That's the other thing I think Jackson Dart's going to be something special. I really do, Really. No, I do. I think he's cut out for the NFL. Milrow is not from Bama and I'm a Bama guy. He went to Seattle I mean he's not going to make it in the NFL. He's not going to make it hey let's get to the big news.

Speaker 4:

The big quarterback is. Shadur Sanders. That was the big news of the week. That's the big story.

Speaker 1:

So what do you guys think the thing is? Because here's the thing I love, I'm a Georgia guy, right? I remember. Do you guys think the thing is? Because here's the thing I love, I'm a georgia guy, right? I remember when deon got drafted by the falcons, he played for the braves. Like I'm a deon fan. He brought a little swagger to atlanta that they had not had, I mean up until then. Like our big guy was dale murphy, you know what I mean? Our quarterback was steve barkowski, I think back in the day. And like deon comes to Atlanta, he's got a little flash, he's got a little swagger, and it brought that whole thing kind of to the table.

Speaker 3:

Shadur, ain't no Deion.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, however, go ahead. I know that Deion was representing his Shadur, as like his agent, right.

Speaker 4:

Like that was the thing. So that's the problem. It isn't that the player has swag.

Speaker 1:

You now are dealing with the dad, the dad and the agent, for sure and, and I think that's a situation where, you know, I think it gets a little weird when it's like, well, I don't want to play for that team, I only want to play for the, you know, uh, new york team or a la team or this. It's like. I mean, I grew up playing sports too, and that was I. I mean, music was a hobby, sports was like my passion growing up, and had I gotten drafted to play baseball out of high school, I could have been drafted by the worst team in the league. They could have given me a damn snicker bar and a bus ticket and said hey, you know, sounds good.

Speaker 1:

Go to wherever Texas, texas, and that's you're going to start playing rookie ball there and I'd have been, I'd have been stoked Right and I think that's the difference. I think it's just, you know, being honored that a NFL franchise would want to draft you and, like, make you part of their team and give you that opportunity, I think is a huge deal, and to go into that stuff going, I don't know if I want to play for that team. I don't know if I want to play for that team. It's like I don't know that that was the case with him or whatever.

Speaker 4:

Do you think it was retaliation by the NFL or collusion to say, hey, don't drop this kid, he's trying to. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I mean, I will say this Everything that I heard going up to it was he was a first-rounder, you know, at worst a second-round pick, and for him to slip as far as he did, it just tells me like there was other things. I mean Go ahead and say it, it's fine. I mean it?

Speaker 1:

just says like there's teams that are going, man, I don't know it's an attitude thing, or it's dealing with his dad, or we don't think he's our guy or like whatever, or we just don't need a quarterback. You know that's the other thing. There's a lot of teams you know that really don't need a quarterback, that don't want to spend that money. So I mean you've got a handful of teams that are going. You know, we're kind of trying to figure it out. We could use him maybe he's our guy and whatever and you're trying to land on one of those teams.

Speaker 3:

Look at the patriots back in the day. Look at him. That's a different deal brady was. I'm just talking about locker room. I'm not talking about on the field, I'm talking about before they even run out on the field. It's the locker room and I think shador sanders was going to be bad for the locker room. Brady was the best thing for any locker room in the history of football.

Speaker 1:

But I think he probably grew into that too. I mean, you've got to grow into that. You're not going to come out of college and go in and take over a locker room. You're going to go in and want to fit in. I'm not talking about yeah, I'm talking, and, as you prove yourself, you kind of take over the locker room. I'm talking about being a teammate.

Speaker 3:

You can tell I don't know the guys that think about themselves only and then the guys that think about the team. You have that or that, and the results speak for themselves.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, is he even good enough to play quarterback? I feel like it was weird.

Speaker 3:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I feel like it was weird, because he was projected to be a first-rounder, at latest a second-rounder.

Speaker 3:

Some people had him at number one.

Speaker 1:

It was almost like, oh, we're going to show you, and so I don't know. I don't know what it was. And then, of all teams, the Browns, who have the worst record in picking quarterbacks ever.

Speaker 4:

They're quarterback rounder. They're like we'll take a quarterback because shit one of them's got to hit at some point. They took the kid from Oregon like the round or two before the Dylan Gabriel. I don't know if you guys know who he is, but they took him.

Speaker 1:

Manziel.

Speaker 5:

Couch, I mean they've Deshaun Watson. Well, they didn't draft him, but he's there.

Speaker 1:

He was great in Houston. I mean he's also had a lot of off-the-field issues.

Speaker 6:

Well, he had a massager too going wrong.

Speaker 1:

Achilles, he what's going on.

Speaker 3:

You know I'm a Bama guy and I would have taken Shadur over Milrow. Same I would have taken Shadur over Milrow. I would have.

Speaker 1:

I think Shadur was probably the second best quarterback in the draft. I think he's better than Dart.

Speaker 3:

I'd give him third or fourth.

Speaker 1:

Again. I think it's like you've got to. What system is he in? Does it click with him? Does he have the weapons around him offensive line and all the stuff to protect him? It's just a lot of those. You have the best quarterback in the world, you put him on a shitty team and they can't get it done.

Speaker 6:

That's right. Well, nfl too, especially, I mean, he doesn't look like an NFL QB to me.

Speaker 1:

He's like a new age, though he's like a Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 6:

He doesn't have the mental side of it, though, because that's the other thing too, brady. I love this part about Brady because he knew what was going to go on.

Speaker 1:

He's a freak though. He's just a freak.

Speaker 7:

He put the time in.

Speaker 6:

He knew how to read the defense. He knew what he was going to do. What's made up for his slow, never ran.

Speaker 1:

Lack of mobility.

Speaker 6:

He knew he would step up into the pocket under trouble and just figure it out. I don't know if Chador is going to have that side of the game.

Speaker 3:

I'm just sitting over here. Kalo's kind of silent.

Speaker 1:

Are you not a sports guy? No, he's a UT guy and he hasn't brought up Nico. He doesn't have anything to cheer about.

Speaker 3:

He hasn't brought up Nico yet.

Speaker 8:

Nico's gone. Well, yeah, but that wasn't the conversation you should be doing for that clapping.

Speaker 1:

You should be thankful, I agree, be glad you got rid of him.

Speaker 8:

I wanted to hear what your take was on it as a. Ut fan a bleeding orange fan my takeaway would bleed into everything you guys are saying. It's a locker room thing. If Nico would have stayed, bad for the locker room. Yeah, and same with what you're saying with Shador, like the locker room thing. I think sometimes people don't want to deal with that and they don't want to mess with all the other players and all the other players qb, you know, if they don't like that person as a personality.

Speaker 1:

I mean in any business and nfl is, I know, sports, but it is a business and if you're not, if you are not likable, it is very difficult to be successful that's a fact, yeah, and I think, like you know, nc I mean college football anymore has gotten to the point where, like, when you're bringing these kids in, you know NCAA I mean college football anymore has gotten to the point where, like, when you're bringing these kids in, you know, you almost have to make sure they check all the boxes, like, yes, they're a great player, you know, but they're also like they're good for the team.

Speaker 1:

They're, you know, a locker room presence that comes in and you know, because that's the thing you can have a stud on the team that does all the. I mean, georgia had one, carson Beck. You know he's supposed to be the greatest guy. The locker room, from what I hear, was like they just weren't behind the guy. You know, I mean Gunnar Stockton comes in and all of a sudden they're like that's our guy, we want to get behind the you know, and that's there you go and that's the thing.

Speaker 1:

You got to have a guy in a locker room. That's sort of the no bullshit guy. That's like, hey, you know, I'll see you prancing around over there when you score touchdown. Don't do that shit, you know. Like that's not, that's not what we're about. You know whether he's the quarterback or the damn whatever you know. And so I think every team has to have those guys, because the coaches aren't around, they can't handle it all. Like sometimes it has to come within, from the team, from the players, and like you know, you just you got to have those guys on every team. It should do with that guy. I don't know, I don't think so, but you know it's. I think it's also being in the nfl, getting around guys that are like he. He's different too, like he's had a pedigree, an nfl pedigree, I, he's grown up around that. So it's like it's not like most kids where they're like holy shit, this is the NFL. He's like I've been doing this, I've been around this my whole life.

Speaker 6:

But you know, these teams, like these owners, these teams, they want to win at all costs. If they thought he had it, he would have not slid to the fifth round.

Speaker 1:

But it's also like they want to win.

Speaker 6:

If they thought he had some hidden, just is going to blow up and be the best thing ever, they would have taken him.

Speaker 1:

There's something that's not, whether it's his attitude or however he handled interviews and things. Not his athletic ability at all Dealing with I mean the guy on the field, no question.

Speaker 4:

He's got skills talented he's great and you know.

Speaker 1:

But like, aside from that, like, what are you going to bring to the table.

Speaker 3:

So was nico. Nico was like his stupid talented kid, but ut handled that situation exactly.

Speaker 8:

I love how they did and they handled that situation like he, he's very talented but like he was, he was ranked. Like you know, was ranked in SEC, not even halfway through as far as his numbers go. Very talented.

Speaker 1:

It's like the rest of Tennessee, we know.

Speaker 8:

Listen. No respect at all We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Message from Patriot Bowl.

Speaker 1:

But you know, it's like any more, like college kids I mean. And granted, like I'm on the train with like I think college kids should be paid to play Like right, like their days. It's not like a normal college kid. They don't just get to go to class and go home and study and it's like dude, whether it's baseball, dude it there. Whether it's baseball, football, whatever it's like, it is a thing, it is a job.

Speaker 7:

When you're in college and so do.

Speaker 1:

I think those guys should be compensated for that. Yeah, they, they can't really go work or do whatever, so I think they should be, should make enough money to like, get them through whatever, whatever. I think there should be some sort of cap on that so you don't have one guy making $6 million a year and then his offensive line. The guy that's protecting it is making $50 grand.

Speaker 8:

There's no cap, not currently.

Speaker 1:

The fact that they let this happen and didn't see this coming and knew that it was going to get out of hand and knew that it was going to be all the switching. You've got to be smarter.

Speaker 3:

I know that Trump and Saban had a little meeting.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I saw that actually. Yeah, they had like one of those guys we don't know.

Speaker 3:

I know.

Speaker 8:

Let's play a game.

Speaker 3:

You love both of them? No, I do not.

Speaker 1:

You just wish he— I had a chance to meet Nick Saban in Augusta playing Augusta National and my caddy goes. You know who that is in front of us? That's Nick Saban. You want to meet him when we make the turn and I said no.

Speaker 3:

Why, why would you? What's the problem? Listen, I think he's a great coach.

Speaker 1:

Seriously, I know what's the problem. He does nothing for me. He did a lot, businessman.

Speaker 3:

It's about me when he goes, do you want to meet him? And I said, no, I do not.

Speaker 1:

That's how I got brought into it? What if he wanted?

Speaker 3:

to meet you. He loves music. He probably loves your music. Listen, I hate.

Speaker 1:

Steve Spurrier too. Well, I did, and then I tell him what a great coach he is. Your red and black is dark in your heart, so bad.

Speaker 3:

Your red and black is dark and you're unbelievable. Oh my gosh, good God, amadi. I love the sports, aldean, better than the music, aldean.

Speaker 4:

I love this.

Speaker 7:

I would rather talk sports with him.

Speaker 3:

We could talk sports with Aldina all day long.

Speaker 1:

Let's just don't talk about Braves. They started 0-7.

Speaker 4:

Let's go to another coaching legend. I'll guide this to Tully. What's going on with Bill Belichick? He's having a great time. What are you?

Speaker 6:

talking about Six rings 25-year-old girlfriend. What's not right with him? I mean crazy.

Speaker 3:

Coming from Tully Kennedy.

Speaker 1:

I don't understand why everybody's giving him a hard time.

Speaker 6:

I don't either. I don't get it. He's put his time in.

Speaker 1:

It's a little weird.

Speaker 3:

It's a little weird.

Speaker 1:

Maybe she's a little bossy, but I saw a picture.

Speaker 3:

A lot of them are Somebody posted a picture in 1999, and Bill Bel 99 and bill belichick was a full grown adult.

Speaker 7:

And somebody's holding this little infant and it's that's his girlfriend.

Speaker 6:

I think it was 99 and it was like I saw it. I'm like that's wrong, I can't look at that, she's 25 or 26, right?

Speaker 1:

yeah, look, he deserves to do whatever he wants to do, yeah, here we go. Listen. I say if you, I say if Bill, if he's got something in common with that 25-year-old girl, hey, explore it. You know, explore the studio space, you never know. Oh my God, hey.

Speaker 3:

but in the meantime, they both dye their hair. That's all they have in common. That's it.

Speaker 1:

Listen, I don't know. I just know he's awesome, he's a great coach. I don't even like the Patriots, but he was a great coach, great coach.

Speaker 6:

Well, you said it, he ain't hurt nobody.

Speaker 3:

Don't change the subject, I'm not. I'm just going to.

Speaker 6:

No.

Speaker 1:

I want to stay on this subject.

Speaker 6:

He is the greatest.

Speaker 1:

You're saying that because you're a Patriots fan.

Speaker 3:

No, Saban's the greatest, not Belichick.

Speaker 1:

Cowboys fans would say Tom Landry's the greatest.

Speaker 6:

I think it's hard not to look at him. Kenny Rogers is the greatest.

Speaker 8:

No no.

Speaker 6:

Kenny Rogers.

Speaker 1:

First concert ever.

Speaker 6:

Right Belichick is the greatest because the way he won those Super. Bowls, he really. I mean, it was a system like great defense all the time.

Speaker 4:

I would say Don Shula's the greatest. See, Well you would. He won with different quarterbacks.

Speaker 1:

I cannot say that Dan Reeves, that closed the Falcons, was the greatest.

Speaker 3:

Are we talking about all sports? Are we talking about college NFL as a collaborative? So you're going to put somebody above Bear Bryant? Seriously, who's Bear Bryant? Oh, my gosh, I mean, lightning just struck. I'm joking, you're out, wow.

Speaker 1:

Alabama's got a great history. Bear Bryant, I mean I think you have those iconic guys.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I don't know, Vince Lombardi. I wasn't around so I don't know Same.

Speaker 6:

I love football. I love talking football. Draftkings can't get here fast enough. Can we start playing?

Speaker 1:

DraftKings on golf or baseball or soccer. We did it. We actually tried it, but I do love the greats, the Shulas, the Belichicks.

Speaker 6:

I mean, how can you not?

Speaker 3:

Does Aldine know about our match, our golf match?

Speaker 1:

I've heard you guys talk about this.

Speaker 4:

Well, maybe we should.

Speaker 3:

You've got gotta include me in this. Oh, you want, you want some you want in?

Speaker 1:

yeah, you know, but I mean, who's the teams?

Speaker 4:

I feel like because I think this is the way to do it, because cleatus was on here, neil, yeah, you're basically scratch. Cleatus is basically scratch. You guys are on separate teams. You divide all of us.

Speaker 1:

Then we're the kids on the playground who don't want to get picked last, especially me.

Speaker 6:

We'll all be last. You're going to get picked last.

Speaker 4:

I know, but. I mean those should be the teams. Then we'll do whatever yeah.

Speaker 1:

Just split you and Cletus up, or we could all be against you still.

Speaker 3:

Well, we talked about just having you guys and whatever your handicaps was, I give you strokes. It's a lot On each side, and that's fine. I don't know if I even have it.

Speaker 6:

I mean, I have a handicap, I'll give you a stroke every hole.

Speaker 3:

What is it you?

Speaker 1:

three and Cletus.

Speaker 3:

Against Neil, against Neal. It's not fair with Cletus.

Speaker 8:

Well, if. Cletus were on that team, because he's a stick.

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, cletus is a stick and I'm like, okay, now we're not.

Speaker 1:

It defeats everything we're trying to do here. It should be like you and somebody against Cletus and the rest.

Speaker 8:

Yeah Right, I don't know how, caleb, I don't know what you play.

Speaker 3:

I hadn't practiced in four years. I'm bogey golf. Why don't me? And you play them three in Cletus. Hold on, what was that? We still need strokes.

Speaker 1:

Me and Neil against you guys in Cletus.

Speaker 4:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 4:

Really it's you against Cletus? Yeah, we're just there. No one's going to use any of my shots.

Speaker 3:

I'll let you read my putts. I can't see the five of y'all riding in one golf cart together. I just can't see it. Well, you're about to.

Speaker 8:

Surely we get two golf carts.

Speaker 1:

Listen, that's minor detail stuff.

Speaker 8:

No, you have to handicap it right. That's what the candidate so if you're involved, if you're involved.

Speaker 1:

Can you set it up at Troubadour, or do you want to play here? Let's play here.

Speaker 3:

I feel like I play at Troubadour. Unless you want to play at Troubadour, I don't care where we play. I can do either one. It's a ball and a ball game.

Speaker 7:

I haven't played here in years, so I play here.

Speaker 8:

Is there drinking involved? Yes, no, absolutely not.

Speaker 1:

I just want you to get that. I mean, if Tully you don't have that here though.

Speaker 3:

What we create.

Speaker 6:

That here we just bring a cooler we don't have.

Speaker 3:

We don't have the amenities that they have at Troubadour. Yeah, this is a private course. So is Troubadour.

Speaker 1:

This one. This one's like you know, shirt buttoned up and all that.

Speaker 3:

Ours is you can wear flip flops.

Speaker 8:

This is McCabe's.

Speaker 3:

Flip flops. And speaking of flip flops, flip-flops has anybody ever seen Michael Knox in flip-flops?

Speaker 4:

No, no Only New Balance white tennis shoes.

Speaker 1:

Dude bathing suit, white New Balance and a tank top Walking on the beach. I don't know that I've ever seen his damn feet, which is a good thing?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, probably I don't know, I don't know, I don't know how we got here, hey, if anybody from New Balance Tennis Shoes is listening.

Speaker 1:

My producer, michael Knox, has paid your bills for a long time. Send that man a fresh set of just solid white leather ones.

Speaker 4:

And Motorola, because he still has the flip phone.

Speaker 3:

Oh, he still has the flip phone. He still does. I admire that.

Speaker 1:

He still does like the T9 texting.

Speaker 8:

I admire it. So I saw this on Facebook the other other day, so it has to be facebook. Oh uh, are you still in that massive lawsuit with whoopi goldberg? I think it's up to 10 billion dollars, what?

Speaker 1:

are you suing her for? No, but I, I mean, I obviously I saw that stuff too. I didn't sue those people, but there was some stuff said, I think, during that whole thing when the song came out, like just you know their interpretation of what they thought I was and all that thing. Sonny Hosen for the most part, and I feel like I coulda you know, yeah, I definitely coulda and um, I just feel like if you're watching that show, man, you know whatever, but I mean I can't even have that argument with you if you're watching the show. We have nothing in common. So that's a fact. But yeah, I, it was one of those things where I don't know.

Speaker 8:

But I don't know.

Speaker 1:

What did it say? I got how much.

Speaker 8:

No, it's a loss that you sued for like $10 billion, Like it started out.

Speaker 1:

No, if she had $10 billion, I'd definitely sue her ass for that.

Speaker 8:

I don't think she has.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't think she'd have, but I so I mean it's like we want some of that oh.

Speaker 3:

How do we get in on that?

Speaker 8:

Poor you thrash. And if there were a fallout like that that was unexpected, could it somehow benefit our podcast? I mean, I didn't know, because it's pending and there's lawyers and there's a lot of expenses. I get that and I'm not asking personally.

Speaker 1:

If I thought I could get $10 billion out of her, yeah, Like hell we'd shoot our shot, but I don't think.

Speaker 8:

Life would be a lot easier for all of us. I just really would enjoy.

Speaker 1:

Hey, we'll keep you updated on that.

Speaker 4:

I look at it every morning and I'll keep you posted. Let's pivot, let's try to get in a couple questions. We and I'll keep you posted. Let's pivot, let's try to get in a couple questions.

Speaker 3:

We had a lot of people. Did some of our listeners send in questions?

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes, your listeners sent in a question.

Speaker 4:

Now we don't know what it's going to be, so bear with me it's grown quite a bit since you were here last.

Speaker 1:

Hey Lena, do we have any of that tequila up here? I don't know how much longer this podcast is going to go. Your husband Keith, what's up guys?

Speaker 9:

Smitty with Country Chord. I got a question for Mr Aldean, so what I want to know is are there any plans to take the older records that are not currently on vinyl and put them on vinyl? And if that answer is no, how do we turn it into a? Yes, all right, guys Love the pod, appreciate it, turn it into.

Speaker 4:

Yes, all right, guys, love the pod, appreciate it. Smitty, it's a country chord uh, give them a follow. They're great uh on instagram they actually are really really good. They're really good, no they.

Speaker 1:

They've always been really cool to us country chord over there. Um, to answer the question, you know the vinyl thing with our albums, you know it's weird. I feel like we we first started making records, those albums would come out and you know I almost feel like they were still on cassette back in the day but they weren't. But it was like all cds and stuff back then and then it kind of went to streaming and then all of a sudden it was like you know, I don't know a few albums in or whatever. All of a sudden they started printing vinyl albums again.

Speaker 1:

Like going back on that, you know, so, like all of it's, like half of my catalog kind of has the vinyl records now. But to go back and do like you know, like my kind of party we never did a vinyl for that, you know it would be cool, like it would be really cool Cause I. But I feel like when we were doing it at the time that there wasn't a market for that. Nobody was really. It was very niche, yeah, and I feel like when we were doing it.

Speaker 7:

At the time there wasn't a market for that.

Speaker 1:

Nobody was really buying. No, it was very niche, yeah, and I feel like it's kind of become a thing over the last I don't know eight to ten years, maybe I feel like I've got a big green tractor 45.

Speaker 4:

45. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that was the first time, because I remember thinking man, I used to listen to little 45s in my room all the time. What do?

Speaker 4:

you got.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there you go trash that old boots, new dirt might have been the first vinyl that we did okay, I think it was and um, and I always I wrote that always wanted to. Well, I was gonna say I always wanted to make the albums look cool, but this one's like super basic. This one has not been opened that one is like clear with some brown on it.

Speaker 3:

Try that in a small town sticker here. I think vinyl is so cool. It's like artwork now.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is how I grew up listening to music too my dad had a record collection and I would go plug the quarter-inch cable in with the big-ass headphones and I would sit there and play, and then you could see the quarter inch cable in with the head, big ass headphones and I would sit there and, you know, play, and then you could see the little grooves in the record where you could skip to the next song and it was like I don't want to hear those two songs. You know, you learn how to. It was our version of a cd player. We were growing up.

Speaker 6:

I just love opening everything up and seeing you know the writers and you played on everything and a lot of people don't you.

Speaker 1:

That's the thing. It's like we're such nerds about that stuff. You know, we take an album like this and we open it up and we want to look at everything it's awesome and see who wrote it, and you know the thank you. I mean, I spend time like thanking all the people for stuff and who played on everything, and nowadays it's like people don't care about that shit. They're just like I want to hear that song and they don't care who played on it or any of that. That's kind of our thing, I think, and I think there's still those people out there, but a mass majority of people are like Dude, I used to read the credits on old rock records when I was a kid. I read everything, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Everything, and I think people are really still interested in that. I don't know we just don't give it to them. I think they are. I really do. I'm serious. Well, we talked about this with John Rich.

Speaker 1:

Music is such a to me.

Speaker 1:

You know, I always say, like if somebody goes and spends $20 million making a movie, right, and then they're not just going to go, hey, I spent $20 million making this movie, I'm going to put it out on Netflix so everybody can watch it for free, right, like at some point you've got to try and get what you got in the movie out of it.

Speaker 1:

So you put it in theaters and people pay to buy a ticket to come watch that, and then maybe you put it on pay-per-view and people buy. You know, you try and get your somewhat of your money back. And it's kind of the same thing with record company and so you know you make these records and then it's just like music I think has been, you know, over the last probably 15 years, has kind of been made to be like such a music should be free, whether it's writers and artists or like whatever, and it's like dude, it takes a lot of money and a lot of stuff to like create these records and we're just going hey, here, go listen to this as much as you want for a penny well, I remember going to the to buy a record cost, cost $18.

Speaker 6:

And when you bought this feeling, when you bought it, you own that now.

Speaker 1:

And I would play that thing a million times.

Speaker 6:

And it was yours, and I feel bad that people today you're right, they don't. It's so disposable now, it's just music.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's so easy. You get it on Spotify. It's like, oh, I want to hear the new Morgan Wallen song. Morgan Wallen new song, boom, pull it up. You're playing it, you don't care who wrote it or what the story is behind it or who played on it.

Speaker 3:

who's playing the guitar? Yeah, we were kids and we couldn't wait to take this out of the jacket.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, brent Mason, put it it.

Speaker 3:

yeah, put it on and listen to it and actually soak it in.

Speaker 1:

You'd soak it in and you could tell nowadays you don't do that well and our thing was like I remember for me like pulling out stuff and you'd have like brit mason playing guitar or something, and then you'd have like you know, somebody else playing on this and you could tell the difference and like that's how that guy plays. And that's how that guy plays, and you know, it's like you're studying it all. I think nowadays it's just like hey, throw that on, it's cool, and then nobody really gives a shit who played on it or whatever.

Speaker 8:

It's cool because it's hot right now kind of thing when I was a kid. I'm a writer now, so now I pay attention to it, but when I was a kid I didn't look at that stuff. I didn't think about it. If it was george straight singing I thought I'd assume george straight wrote it. I didn't think anything about it you know, then you move to natural and think, oh wow, you can make a living doing that, just didn't process it.

Speaker 1:

I just don't properly process it you know, back in the day, like I mean, james stroud was producing everything, clint black, tracy, lawrence, clay walker, I mean all the stuff that I was digging. It's like every time I looked at something it was like James Stroud, byron, gallimore, they were producing all that stuff. Then you deep dive in and who's playing on the records? Shit, it was always the same guys. You're like these guys are the ones creating this sound that I think is so cool. Those producers knew how to get that and built that team around them. I think that's kind of a thing for us growing up, with cds, jackets and stuff. It's like you're sitting there listening to the record and you're also reading like who wrote it? And you'd see, like you know, ashley goerle wrote 10 of the songs or whatever. And you're like damn, that guy's killing. Like I always see that guy's name or whatever and, um, I don't know, I feel like a little bit of that's lost now.

Speaker 3:

For sure I remember this feeling like a book when I would open it, especially these double albums and stuff. It was like a book and I would read it all I would. I would come over here and look at who the players are.

Speaker 1:

I think you're just staring at my picture, yeah.

Speaker 8:

Because you think I'm a stud A little uncomfortable, I would look at this picture and I'd go.

Speaker 3:

Why didn't he shave that part of the hair off his chest right?

Speaker 1:

there Probably so it wasn't in the picture. Yeah, you got some creepers and I hate shaving. That's why I never look clean shaving.

Speaker 4:

You guys want to do another question?

Speaker 8:

Yes, I'd love to.

Speaker 3:

He's going to love that answer.

Speaker 7:

Hi, my name is Mark. I have a question for Jason Tully and Kurt how was Trump's inauguration? You guys looked and sounded great, but I want to hear your side of the story.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we did, mark, we did look and sound great I have to agree your side of the story.

Speaker 4:

Yes, we did, mark, we did look and sound great.

Speaker 1:

I have to agree with you on that. But I'll say this About playing the inauguration man, I thought it was cool. Obviously, I don't think it's a big secret that I'm a Trump fan. I love what he does. I think he's my kind of president, you know what I mean and so he's a friend and it was an honor for us to get to play that.

Speaker 1:

You know, it was something that I actually made the call and said hey, you know, this is something that I want to be a part of, I want us to be a part of, and if there's any way for you guys to include us, let me know. And they called, wanted us to play, and you know, I think, for us I mean 20 years on the road we've done a lot of stuff. We played Grammys, we played all of it. You know, every award show, we've played stadiums, we've done duets, we've stadiums, we've done duets, we've done it all.

Speaker 1:

One thing we had never done was play for a president, you know, and so to do that, um, you know, I think for us as entertainers, it's like it's another box to be like man. You know, this crazy life and career we've had, like we did all these things. And there's another box. We checked that we I mean, this is a bunch of reject kids that played, you know, learned to play instruments and were like this was not supposed to happen for us. And here we are doing it and it's, it's cool, you know. So to me it was a, it was an honor and it was cold.

Speaker 3:

It was better than Billy Ray Cyrus I will say this man, it was it was electric around that place when we played that man.

Speaker 1:

It was so cool. Just the atmosphere that night and being there and being part of it was awesome.

Speaker 4:

It was amazing. I mean, it's the guy with the highest power, it's the president of the United States. You could feel nothing but be honored. It was awesome. Yeah, it was absolutely awesome.

Speaker 6:

That was really cool too. I remember, like during when we were playing cause we were, we were only supposed to play, like 30 minutes and we ended up playing an hour Cause cause a president was running behind, yeah, and I remember and other things. I remember looking around the stage again. Oh, this is really, you know, like Alvin said, like another thing that I mean when you think you've done everything, you're like we've never done this before.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it was really fun. Let's get one last one in, let's go.

Speaker 1:

Get a juicy one, kurt man, hi guys.

Speaker 5:

My name is Kimberly, from Palm Bay, Florida, and I am wondering in the song A Little More Summertime, is Jason saying a little BS? Because every time my mom hears this song she's insisting that's what she hears and we have this argument all the time. Please settle it for us.

Speaker 4:

I'm confused. Actually, a little BS, a little BS.

Speaker 3:

Does anybody that's Wendell's song. Wendell Mobley's co-writer, and Tony Martin wrote that song Did you pull up the lyric.

Speaker 8:

Wendell Mobley's co-writer, and Tony Martin wrote that song Did you pull up the lyric. Oh no. You could Google the lyrics A little more song time.

Speaker 4:

Well, I can tell you that he's not saying that. No, no.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to think what line it is.

Speaker 5:

I don't know I'm trying to sing it in my head.

Speaker 3:

Because I sing it with Wendell when we do rounds I don't know, Just a little bit longer.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I can answer this quick the song does not say bs, okay, that's yeah. So if you, whenever in doubt just google a little more summertime lyric and and not that they're always right either- but it's funny how people.

Speaker 3:

She had to be more specific. Is it a verse thing or a chorus thing?

Speaker 1:

Well, she wasn't more specific.

Speaker 8:

But it's funny how people hear different things. There's one song Remember Witchy Woman. It's an old song.

Speaker 7:

Ooh witchy woman.

Speaker 8:

There was a kid in our neighborhood. His name was richie womack and we had we. We convinced this kid for years that they were singing richie womack see how it was great. And he believed it for years so amazing.

Speaker 1:

So you know he did so. Tombo, martin, tombo shout out.

Speaker 7:

Bug.

Speaker 1:

Commander. So Tombo, take a little ride. He always thought it said slide your pretty little cell phone over Cell phone, your pretty little cell phone Slide your pretty little cell phone over and Tombo's like slide your pretty little cell phone over.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, that actually would be a great bit. We should have better listeners.

Speaker 1:

And if you've ever met Tombo, you'll completely understand that. Your pretty little cell phone Pretty little cell phone over.

Speaker 8:

You could see how that would happen.

Speaker 1:

You know it also depends on like drugs people have done over the years and different things you know.

Speaker 3:

I looked up the lyrics a little more summertime. What you got, you got a next one. I got something. I don't know what they are. I got to get the BS thing out of my head. I should have previewed these.

Speaker 7:

Hey guys, my name's Addison and I'm from Minnesota. I was actually a stagehand when you guys were here two years ago at Treasure Island Casino. I was curious if you guys have ever had a song that you wish that you had wrote, or if Jason's ever had a song that he wished that he would have cut. And Fly Over States is my favorite country song of all time, so thanks for that, Thrash.

Speaker 6:

Ooh and he called you by.

Speaker 4:

Thrash.

Speaker 1:

Thrash, he's in the circle. You probably get that question a lot.

Speaker 4:

Actually a song that you wish you would have cut first of all. Do you remember giving this guy a note?

Speaker 1:

probably not, no, yeah um, I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean, but listen honestly, like and I don't mean that to be like no of course but it's like you meet so many people and they're you know, and it's like I am horrible with names, I'm great with faces. So if I see somebody I'm like I'll be like I met you at so and so and so. So I don't know your name or any of that stuff, but in those kind of situations I mean, you know, I don't know, we're getting ready to go play a show and people are trying to talk to you and I'm like man, I'm, you're in the zone a little bit, so you just never know. But, um, I would say you know songs that I wish I'd cut. I mean, man, I hear songs all the time that I'm like dude, that's killer, you know, it's really good.

Speaker 1:

I mean I remember hearing like, uh, hillbilly deluxe brooks and dunn I don't buy my, you know kind of like swampy, cool ass thing and we had that as our intro music for a year or two on the road. You know, it's like you hear things like that and you're like god, man, that's cool, you know, but you just you never got a chance at it. Now there's been a couple that you know been pitched to me that I turned down, that went on to be hits, the one that I really sticks out was uh, the a song called drunk on you that luke had, girl, you make my speakers go boom boom. They pitched me that and I remember being on a plane just. But like we were trying to narrow it down, we had a couple more songs. I'm like I don't know. It just kind of didn't go what we were doing at the time. Luke cuts. It has big hit with it, you know. So I mean, there's always those kind of things.

Speaker 4:

Um, yeah, we talked about this too, like uh, jake owen had a chance to cut big tractor and it's just I've heard you say this and I think it's true they they usually land where they're supposed to and I and I do believe that man, I think songs.

Speaker 1:

I think as singers, as artists, if, if you really are honest with yourself when listening to something you know I can listen to a song, go, that's my, that's my thing, that's my thing, that's what I do, that's what I do, well, and I'm going to kill that. And then there's other things where you're like that's a little bit of a stretch and I don't like what it says there, but I don't like that melody, but it's kind of like whatever. And so I think, as singers, it's like we know, like deep down where it's like damn, it's close, but it's not quite that. And so Jake Owen had Big Green Tractor and we kind of had the backup hold on it and I think they were kind of pressing him like hey, aldean wants to cut this, and like are you going to cut it or not? And I think he kind of pulled off of it.

Speaker 1:

It's like I'm a Florida kid, like this ain't really my thing, this ain't really my thing, and as soon as he did, I was all over that thing. And to this day it's been our four weeks at number one, it's our longest number one and and it's and even that song is like a little tongue and cheeky, like for what we do now. Like I don't know that, I would cut that song and I even fought knocks on that song back in the day.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we talked. Yeah, he talked about that. I just wanted.

Speaker 1:

You know, I just I was in a spot of like I want to just cut, like I just knew like we were going to get one crack at this thing, man. So like I wanted to go in and cut things that I thought were cool, that I wanted to go out and sing and things that just you know, and it wasn't you were still cool after big green tractor.

Speaker 3:

It made you even cooler, I know, but it was really hard to sing like you know, some of those lyrics and stuff, because it's just not typically what we do, and hicktown had a little bit of that too, you know.

Speaker 1:

So, um, but yeah, big record man, that was a game changer, for sure uh, let's, let's maybe dial it in or end with this.

Speaker 4:

What you watching these days, what you got on the netflix queue I know, oh, we talk more about this kind of stuff. I know I love it. I mean, it's usually what our conversation is anyway. Oh my gosh, have you seen such?

Speaker 1:

and such yet. So here's where I'm at now in life, just in general, right? So my wife, watches.

Speaker 4:

Watching what Brittany watches.

Speaker 1:

Well, she watches. You know, we have some things that we like to watch together and then there's certain things that it's like she watches, and I've kind of just been in the room and now I've gotten sucked into that shit.

Speaker 3:

You don't do the chick flick thing right.

Speaker 1:

No, but it's like shows, like reality shows. I'm a sucker for like a reality show when there's a bunch of drama going on.

Speaker 1:

So, like like Jersey Shore, and when everything's cool and they're having fun, I'm like whatever. But as soon as they start fighting and throwing like wine bottles and shit, I'm like what's that all about? And then I'm in and so she suckers me in on this stuff, Vanderpump rules and stuff like that. So I sit there and watch that, and then I have like my iPad right here with the Braves game on and so I kind of keep up with that while I'm checking the score. And then when she goes to bed, she goes to bed kind of early and then, you know, I sit in there and watch like 1923 or Landman or like those kind of things.

Speaker 4:

I haven't seen the new season of 1923. Is it good?

Speaker 1:

It's good. It's the last season. Get ready, it's over after this. Really. Yeah is a good, that's good. It's the last season. Get ready, it's over after this, really. Yeah, man, I was so pissed. I love the first season, right. First season great. This season's great. But then it's just like it ends and then you're going oh awesome, find a new show yeah, so land man lost me.

Speaker 3:

I was really. Yeah, I just love billy billy bob thornton.

Speaker 1:

That's the only reason I was watching. Yeah, because of him.

Speaker 3:

I'm watching billy bob Thornton because I love him.

Speaker 1:

He's awesome.

Speaker 3:

But it started getting so weird between him and his daughter and it got so freaking, perverted and I'm like I can't watch this. No kid talks to their dad that way and says those words it's not going to happen. Well, they're probably watching Hollywood, I know, but they lost me. I'm in the mob land now they're bringing back Ted Lasso.

Speaker 6:

I've watched like an episode. I haven't gotten into that Really liking mob land.

Speaker 3:

Mob land is good, but I love Tom Hardy.

Speaker 1:

You know what my favorite show is? I might have said this last time. My favorite show on TV is Dark Side of the Ring. You know this show. 80s kid grew up a wrestling fan. It's like the behind. It's like the behind the music of the wrestling world and it comes on vice. It's awesome. It's like wrestlers that I grew and it's great.

Speaker 3:

It's awesome that they what would you say if, if, if somebody wanted to come to you and go?

Speaker 1:

we want to do a reality show at your house they have already always happened multiple times are you serious yeah that's why we don't have a reality show. That's amazing. My life's good. I'm not gonna let you guys f**k it up and come in and bring a lot of drama like I don't, I don't want that the fans want it, the only way I would ever do it is if it was centered around our family.

Speaker 1:

We had control of it to where you know. You're not creating these storylines to stir up drama and bullshit, like if you want to see us in our element, do what we're doing, maybe, but I'm not going to let you come in and just like wreck my family to make a tv show yeah it happens. So that's kind of why it hasn't happened, but they've approached us multiple times, so you could do naked and afraid I don't understand why, you gotta be naked.

Speaker 1:

Why can't I just have a bathing suit on and be afraid you know?

Speaker 6:

I'd be so afraid true why can't I wear flip-flops?

Speaker 1:

and a I don't know speedo and be afraid or what I mean. You wouldn't want to see that on tv either, but I don't understand why you gotta be naked.

Speaker 3:

Just you know what are you he's hanging? What are you into, kaylo? What are you watching these days? Uh?

Speaker 8:

we're catching up on better call.

Speaker 4:

We went back oh, that's a good one oh yeah, got one wow you're way

Speaker 1:

like nine more episodes old episodes of family ties. Like you're going way back, way, way back.

Speaker 8:

Way back. Nothing will ever be Breaking Bad. Well, Rachel hadn't seen Breaking Bad until we started there. Nothing ever. The writing is brilliant.

Speaker 3:

What was the?

Speaker 1:

show we watched that we loved so much. Kingdom no, the UFC thing. Kingdom Kingdom. Really good, yeah, really good.

Speaker 3:

It's pretty good what did y'all's deal with wrestling?

Speaker 1:

We grew up in the 80s man it was wrestling was huge.

Speaker 3:

I know I did too. I did too. It was huge. You grew up in the 60s.

Speaker 1:

It was really, it was huge.

Speaker 7:

Really Seriously.

Speaker 3:

I was born in the 60s, I I was born in the 70s Cut cut cut.

Speaker 4:

Jim thanks for being with us. That was your last episode. Whose idea was it?

Speaker 3:

to have him on today.

Speaker 8:

That's amazing.

Speaker 7:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4:

Probably, if anybody's got anything else, we should probably wrap this thing up, let's wrap it up.

Speaker 1:

Let's do it, let's wrap it up. Hey, thanks for having me. Congrats on 50 episodes, all right.

Speaker 4:

We're a little past 50. We've gone the one-year mark Well one year.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, hey, listen, I never thought you guys would make it past two months, so this is awesome.

Speaker 3:

Can we have you on more and talk about sports more For?

Speaker 1:

sure, Please Dude if I'm in town.

Speaker 6:

We need some ratings bumps.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I definitely think you guys need me for yeah, he speaks the truth it depends on who you poll on instagram, how you know it could go either way, but I'm down to come kick it. I love doing this with you guys. We're so appreciative for coming.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we've said this a million times this is kind of just like our talk in the whiskey river. Anyway, so we're just putting it on film. If you're watching on YouTube, leave us some comments. We know Ed will Keep the comments coming.

Speaker 1:

Who's Ed?

Speaker 3:

Ed's one of our super fans. He's fantastic Cool guy. He's awesome. We'll probably have him on at some point. If he'll come here and do it, you should suss that guy out.

Speaker 1:

Make sure, hey, you should suss that guy out.

Speaker 4:

Make sure you know Ed's awesome.

Speaker 1:

You start sending out flyers, man, you never know what you're going to get.

Speaker 3:

Ed, love you. Buddy, I'm sure you're awesome.

Speaker 5:

We're going to do a background check before we bring you on.

Speaker 4:

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Speaker 1:

Are they our sponsor? We're going to just have like a grab bag of like medicine. We are now it's going to be like Elvis Put the coats on absolutely give us a bunch of stuff and we just show up at the water cooler and go I need a Z-Pack don't take it all at one time. Yeah, I guarantee for what we do. Honestly, all joking aside, that's really cool 100%, jason.

Speaker 4:

We're thankful for having you thanks buddy, appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1:

Man, always fun small town podcast.

Speaker 2:

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