How a Banned Account, a Mullet, and Sheer Grit Built a Social Media Empire w/Justin "Danger" Nunley :: Ep 76 Try That in a Small Town Podcast

A stranger clowns you on live after your account gets banned—do you spiral or go nuclear on the grind? Justin “Danger” Nunley chose the latter, changing shirts in his driveway and launching a 30-day sprint from 3,000 followers to 3 million. We sit down with the Air Force veteran turned creator-entrepreneur to unpack the mindset, habits, and guardrails behind a 21M+ audience—and why three videos a day for five years was less about algorithms and more about character.

We get into the real mechanics of creator growth: cross-posting strategy, learning from takedowns instead of raging at them, and navigating wildly different community guidelines across TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook. Justin shares why he leaves “just enough” in his famous did-you-know facts to make you look it up yourself, and why safety at home requires firmer boundaries than most people realize. From SkillBridge to retirement, from Harley-Davidson partnerships to Waze Energy’s veteran-first mission, he lays out a playbook any small business can borrow: become your own media company, tell honest stories, and replace legacy ad buys with creator-native content that actually converts.

Of course, it wouldn’t be our show without sports heat. We wrestle with NIL money’s effect on college football, break down Tennessee vs Georgia vs Alabama angst, and celebrate the joy of a snow-filled Bills playoff game with your kid. There’s even a beard-on-the-line rivalry bet and a quick detour into hitting mechanics—why getting the bat on plane early beats chasing launch angle buzzwords—because process scales whether you’re in a cage or on camera.

If you’re building a brand, a podcast, or a one-person media empire, this conversation is your field guide: be relentless, be yourself, and let the work stack. Listen now, then hit follow, leave a review, and share this with a friend who needs a shot of creative momentum.

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Transcript

Cold Open: Singing, Beards, Banter

SPEAKER_06 0:09

Busted his ass for you and me are calling up this moon in Kansas. You don't understand why God made those fly over states. Oh, see, I can match.

SPEAKER_13 0:29

And you've got a you've got this like classic uh Willie Nelson backphrasing thing going on, which is I love it.

SPEAKER_05 0:35

Which is I think I think you might have a whole nother chapter to your career. I don't think so. Recording artists.

SPEAKER_07 0:41

No, no, because what's funny is like if you would have stopped singing and I would have kept going, I would have fallen completely flat. And I don't know why. I've tried to figure that out. Whenever you stop singing, I will hold it for a second, and then I just Well, that's like most artists today, so you're fine.

SPEAKER_12 0:55

Most of the young artists, they do the same thing.

SPEAKER_07 0:56

I was sitting in the driveway, you know, doing the live, and somebody got on there clowning me because my account got taken down and it lit a fire under me. And I said, the hell with that account. And I jumped, I got out of the truck, went and changed clothes, started posting videos. I posted like five, six videos a day for the next year and a half. But in that 30 days, from that moment that I got out of the truck, 30 days later, I had three million followers on that TikTok account just because that dude pissed me off.

SPEAKER_03 1:23

I can't wait for the feedback. Both are qualified in softball. In football, no.

SPEAKER_13 1:28

Hey, let the let the women have their softball. Let the women ump it. Like honestly, just let us have our stuff and I don't know. I love you, Neil, but I don't agree.

SPEAKER_11 1:37

Okay, that's fine.

SPEAKER_09 1:42

That's where to get on the perfect in a small town podcast. Beginning.

SPEAKER_14 1:55

Welcome back to the Tribe in the Small Town Podcast. Coming here from the Patriot Mobile Studios COVID. He might have COVID. We're powering through without masks. Yeah. We got thrash, we got K-Lo. The Willems.

SPEAKER_13 2:15

Where's Will Will I miss you? Yeah, maybe you went in the problem. Two weeks without you, buddy. I'm good.

Meet Justin “Danger” Nunley

SPEAKER_03 2:20

Hey, my immune system's built way up. I didn't get this boost or the shot or any of it. Did you get COVID if we had to do it like three weeks ago? It was not in the hospital.

SPEAKER_15 2:29

You got rushed to the emergency room. What are you talking about? Right? When you get that thing cut and caught in your throat and everything, you woke up.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

I regurgitated my frickin' meal from the night before from uh acid reflux. It wasn't COVID? No, it wasn't anything. I just choking to death. That's very serious. I regurgitated. I know, I'm just saying you have had acid reflux. Acid reflux, and I was choking. I woke up, you know, that's what people simmer down.

SPEAKER_15 2:59

This is why you got your heart rate elevated. No, it's not. Simmer down. It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

When's the last time you had a physical? A physical? Yeah. Last night. All right. No, he didn't get back to the back.

SPEAKER_14 3:09

When did you get physical back?

SPEAKER_15 3:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 3:12

It's probably a good thing we're loose to that because we got a uh a guy that we're gonna have to be on our toes for. Yeah. Justin Nunley. And if you don't know him, you're what you're missing out. He's got 20 million followers or something. Something just in danger ahead of us.

SPEAKER_15 3:25

Justin Danger, Nunley. Justin Danger. We're gonna have to ask about that.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

Danger. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 3:31

It'll be fun. Did you know him? How do I well?

SPEAKER_03 3:34

I met him I met him at uh Gary Lavox's uh camp when we were deer hunting one year. How long ago was that? Oh gosh, 22? 2022, 2000 I don't know. I can't remember. It was four or five years ago, maybe.

SPEAKER_14 3:50

And he's gotten very famous for his TikTok videos, right? What's his catchphrase? Or what's the phrase that he what's he say?

SPEAKER_15 3:58

Do y'all know?

SPEAKER_03 3:59

He'll have a clip of somebody doing something stupid and he'll go and he'll have this look on his face like And he breaks in with a random fact.

SPEAKER_15 4:07

It's somewhat random. Sometimes it's on it a little and then something off.

SPEAKER_03 4:11

Did you know? And he uh he sounds a little feminine sometimes when he doesn't like listen, did you know?

SPEAKER_15 4:17

I don't think it's that feminine.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

It's not it's sometimes it's a little feminine. Well, his new haircut looks a little feminine to me. I don't know. He'll no, he'll love it. It's a mullet. It looks pretty good. The mullet. I don't know. I think he's a little old for a mullet. I don't know. If you didn't grow up with a mullet, we we're the ones that made mullets famous. Yeah, I'm definitely in that I had a really killer mullet. No, I did too. Me too, with the perms very nice. Jim, we'll get you pictures that you can post. That'd be a good idea. Um, but we we were the mulleteteers. The mulleters.

SPEAKER_13 4:45

We were. I had a really bitchin' rat tail too back in school. It was awesome. Oh that thing was Did you drive an S10? I had an S10. You had an S10?

SPEAKER_14 4:55

I did. I had an S10. That's really funny. That's good. Oh my gosh. Let's not waste any more time because this is gonna be a good one here. We're here with Justin. Speaking of nicknames, well, what's the origin of danger?

SPEAKER_07 5:09

Hey man, I danger's my middle name. I'm a professional bomb builder, amateur gynecologist. I can do it all. Austin Powers.

SPEAKER_15 5:18

Austin Powers, the Austin Powers movie.

SPEAKER_10 5:21

Yeah. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_15 5:23

So did you so from the Austin Powers movie, did you did you take that and make that your your middle name or did your parents?

SPEAKER_07 5:29

It's just always kind of been a joke. No, I it's just always kind of been a joke. You know, ever since I, you know, signed up for Facebook back in the day, you know, when they just opened it up to the general population, you know, I just put my middle name as danger and it just it's just always been there.

SPEAKER_03 5:43

It's awesome. How long's this been going on?

SPEAKER_07 5:45

What life? Danger I'm about 41.

SPEAKER_03 5:47

No, danger.

SPEAKER_07 5:48

Danger, uh since about 2019. Really? Yeah. Which it took me a couple years to figure things out. You know?

SPEAKER_03 5:56

Why is it I've noticed that when people get more famous and they get richer, that their beards get longer.

SPEAKER_07 6:06

Yeah.

Origin of “Danger” and Creator Persona

SPEAKER_03 6:07

And you're following the beard, don't get me wrong. Well, yeah. It's it's growing perfect. Your gray is perfect. It's very good. Do you do that, or is that natural?

SPEAKER_07 6:16

That's natural. Well, you know, I tried to I tried to color my beard earlier this year. I don't know if y'all saw it or not. Well, the lady that does my hair, right? My beautician, if you will. You know, I go to a beauty shop, you know. Look at this, look at this. Hey. This was in the front.

unknown 6:31

Shaking that all in the back.

SPEAKER_15 6:32

There you go. Larry in the back.

SPEAKER_07 6:33

So, no, she she said, I, you know, if you want to color it, we can color it. I've got some uh what is it, demi-permanent. I was like, well, what does that mean? She's like, well, it's temporary. I'm thinking same thing you're thinking. You know, oh, I'll let you put it on, and if I don't like it, I'll just wash it out. She's like, Yeah, it'll wash out in about a month. That shit don't wash out. It's permanent.

SPEAKER_03 6:52

Yeah. I guess that's why they call it demi-permanent. What segments you think we're talking about here so we can go back and look? I want to go back and see.

SPEAKER_07 6:59

Oh, you'll see.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

Yeah. Or you can't do that.

SPEAKER_07 7:01

When was out in Bristol? When was I at Bristol for the spring? April. Go to April, and shortly after the Bristol race, I shaved it. I did a deal with Manscaped and shaved my beard. Manscaped, man. I was like, all right, but you know, adjust your beard? Well, I know. I mean, I shaved my undercarries too.

SPEAKER_06 7:17

When Caleb's giving mansion, that's interesting because people use it.

SPEAKER_15 7:22

But we're still on the mullets, though. So when I was in junior high, when the mullets were coming in, and then actually the perm was in at the time.

SPEAKER_07 7:29

So did you ever think you during the civil rights era?

SPEAKER_15 7:32

It was it was close. It was close. But we had, but you talked about your uh your beautiful. I'm sorry, I don't even know you that well. You had your beautician, you're talking about your beautician, and we actually had to go. I went to uh California Concept Hair Design in Pixon, Tennessee. And we would get you'd get a perm and you'd have to hide. You'd have to kind of go in the back doors kind of like I don't want anybody to see me getting that, but everybody else had it and it was cool.

SPEAKER_07 7:55

I prefer to go in the back door.

SPEAKER_15 7:56

Yeah, so well, that's a that might be another podcast. But anyway, so we get it. But mine was a real natural, you know, look. So I only had it permed up to the crown where it was real natural. It's all straight, and then where it got real curved. Okay. You should perm your hair. You should perm your hair now.

SPEAKER_07 8:12

I could it would it take some really tiny, tiny rollers, but I've been thinking about perming my hair, you know, just for the pure shock value old lines like people, yeah. Hey, silence that phone.

SPEAKER_05 8:22

Oh sorry. That's the amateur air.

SPEAKER_07 8:27

Hey, did you make sure that mine are up? Mine's on uh do not disturb because I, you know, once I talk shit about somebody, uh no, I've been thinking about you know, just perming mine. My oldest, my 15-year-old, he he's grew a pretty phenomenal mullet, right? And he had the top of his perm and it do the day after, and then two or three days after, it looked like a jerry curl. It looked straight jerry curl. Hey, listen, did you know the movie Pulp Fiction? You know, you know, Samuel Jackson. He had, you know, so he was supposed to have an afro in that movie, and they told the production assistant to go get an afro wig. That they he had no clue what afro was, so he came back with a jerry curl wig, and that's why Samuel L. Jackson has a lot of. I wondered why his hair looked like that.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

I thought he got it from like coming to America.

SPEAKER_07 9:14

No, man, he just he they just said, well, he's wearing a jerry curl.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

So that's and it kind of fits.

SPEAKER_13 9:19

I thought that movie with anything other. I love that movie. Yeah, I can't picture him in any other.

SPEAKER_07 9:24

No, could you imagine him having an afro?

SPEAKER_13 9:26

No. No. I can see Kalo having some sort of prone, though. I've got let's go back to the Manscaped.

SPEAKER_07 9:31

Yeah, let's go back to that real quick.

SPEAKER_03 9:32

The Manscaped 500.

SPEAKER_07 9:33

He did try to trot over that, didn't he? Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 9:35

There's a reason for that though. Well, no, I mean, I don't know how this came up last time. When did it come up? We were talking after the podcast. We were always after the podcast. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:44

And then you had an itch and you were scratching down there. Hey, no, let's not.

SPEAKER_15 9:47

The short of it is it's an appointment for the short of it. No, but we were talking about the Manscaped 4000, because some buddies of mine were talking to me one day about, you know, hey, shaving down there and all this stuff, and and I never have, you know.

SPEAKER_07 9:59

So never.

SPEAKER_15 10:00

Well, I got the I said you ought to get the Manscaped 4,000. And so this is about a year and a half ago. You needed a we need it, brother. If you had never five hundred timers. I went and got it. Yeah. And and it's still in my bathroom, the plastic's still on it. Never took it out. Brother. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 10:19

That's what we said. That's yeah and and I just his wife's a a a a saint of a woman, obviously. Obviously. And just, you know, and she, you know, beautiful wife you have, and I'm just wondering what kind of what kind of torture are you subjecting her to on a daily basis. If you never, you know, uh question, real quick.

SPEAKER_15 10:43

Someone cut a kitchen just putting the name out there on the Her dad listens to this podcast. Oh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 10:51

My name is Russell, and I'm a wilderness explorer.

SPEAKER_15 10:56

You can cut that if you need to, brother. We don't ever cut anything early. No, we don't cut anything, apparently.

SPEAKER_10 11:10

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_13 11:12

I feel like this could be the start of a new era. A more manicured era.

SPEAKER_14 11:20

Or a new sponsor.

SPEAKER_07 11:22

Oh, I've got the contacts. If y'all need it, I'll sling it to you.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

Not everybody. So you're like co-owner of a vitamin drink?

SPEAKER_07 11:31

But no, an energy drink. Waste energy. Right. Oh, we can speak about this because we need to get waste waste energy drink. You know, we uh we're veteran-owned, veteran-operated. We give 10% back of everything we earn to military veteran military veterans and first responders, partnered with the Gary Snease Foundation and Fifth Squad. And uh it's a very clean energy drink, no sugar. Uh like one of our one of our drinks has five calories, one of them has ten calories. Did you bring us any? No, but I'll I'll have you said there'll be some shit. Hey, where do you find this?

SPEAKER_14 12:04

Where can the people find it?

SPEAKER_07 12:06

Tomorrow. I'll I'll I'll send you back with a bunch of sugar.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

No, Wednesday. I'm on uh Wednesday.

SPEAKER_07 12:10

That's right, yeah. So you can get them at wasteenergy.com. Yeah. Right. And we're working on distribution, and I'm pretty sure we just got distribution in uh she she can correct me. Did we just get distribution in Tennessee? I think we got Kentucky, Ohio. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_13 12:25

So what kind of like flavors? Like what's the range of flavors?

SPEAKER_07 12:28

We've got uh orange cream, we've got um pomegranate peach. Cherry limeade's my favorite.

SPEAKER_13 12:34

Cherry Limeade. Uh, dude. Send a case of that.

SPEAKER_07 12:37

It is fire. As the kids like say these days, it's absolute gas.

SPEAKER_13 12:42

That's amazing. And amazing giving back to the veterans. Yeah, that's what that's uh it's all about, right?

SPEAKER_14 12:47

Which obviously leaves us uh you were in the Air Force for quite a while, right?

SPEAKER_07 12:50

Yeah, 20 years. I just retired.

SPEAKER_14 12:52

You just retired?

SPEAKER_07 12:53

Yeah, I just retired last month. This month. What what day is it?

SPEAKER_14 12:57

We're not sure.

SPEAKER_07 12:58

We're still in September. I just yeah, I just retired two weeks ago. Active duty military, yeah. Well, congrats, and thank and thank you for your service. Yeah, I've been I've been doing Skillbridge for the past six months, so optics. Uh Skillbridge is a is a program that allows military veterans to you know transition out of the military. Um transition? Yeah, not like that. You know, you do have to clarify these days. Uh you really do. Yeah. No, it it lets you transition out where you can go out in the in the work world, you know, and because some people that have been in like me for 20 years, you know, I hadn't worked regularly. Things have changed in 20 years, brother. You know. So I I worked with uh, you know, uh Emerald Coast Charlie Davidson for the past six months. And uh when it was time for it to be up, Gus, the the owner over there, offered me a partnership and now I'm you know a partner there at the Parley dealership and with the uh big Gus tractor and equipment.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 13:56

A little bit of farming, yeah. I'd like to see that.

SPEAKER_03 13:59

I'd love to see you on a harvester.

SPEAKER_07 14:01

Well, let's do it. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

They don't they drive themselves, so I can see you in one.

SPEAKER_07 14:05

Oh, I can program them. Well, I I almost flipped an excavator two weeks ago playing around. Yeah, I'll send you that video.

SPEAKER_03 14:12

Yeah, I'll see that.

SPEAKER_15 14:13

Well, I thought what what was cool uh is that most of the people when they're in the in the service, you know, when they're at nighttime, a lot of them are just, you know, some of them with their families, but the younger guys are just drinking beer and stuff like that, and you were creating this huge massive business you're in now for three years while you're in the service, you were doing what you're doing now. Yeah, for the past, right? For about three years. That's pretty cool because most people are not thinking that far ahead.

SPEAKER_07 14:36

Well, I don't give me too much credit because not I I don't plan much out. It just kind of happened that way, you know. And it you know, I was honestly kind of wondering, is this is this gonna work? You know, because there was a couple times where it was like, you know, I got called into the man's office, you know, and it's like, hey, we see what you're doing here, and I'm like, eh. I'm not gonna quit. You know, and it's like one of those lines in the sand, it's like, you know, I'm doing it on my own time. I never posted anything in in uniform, you know, maybe one or two, you know, and uh I just I just kept the two two things separate. And a lot of people, a lot of people were absolutely shocked two years ago when you know I did a transition video for a mom that was crying about her son going off to boot camp, and I said, You're gonna be fine, you know, he's gonna be fine, you want to know how I know. And I, you know, it switched to me being in uniform and it just blew everybody's mind. They was like, I had no clue. Yeah, you know, I had kept it completely quiet, you know, that I was in. Not because I was ashamed of it, just because you know, not everybody needs to know everything, you know, and I'm a firm believer in that, you know. But people want to know everything.

SPEAKER_14 15:40

They like to, yeah. How many, so how many viewers did you have at that point when they started to find out?

SPEAKER_07 15:45

I mean, I'm sitting right now at about 21 million total followers, and uh I probably at that time probably had about 15 million, maybe.

unknown 15:53

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_13 15:54

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 15:55

Yeah, yeah.

unknown 15:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 15:59

Where are we at? Jim, where are we? Are we close? I don't know them all. I don't know them all.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

Have you have you had any um like safety breaches at the house?

SPEAKER_07 16:08

Oh yeah, yeah. We we there was a guy arrested last year or year before last on four felony charges. And we've had uh people stop by the house. I've had do video a couple times like, hey, I love y'all. I get it, you love me. Don't come to my house. You know, it the the the the interaction that me and you are gonna have is not gonna be what you think in your mind if you come to my house.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

Or some of them like like coming there to to do you know, to shake it up or most of them just make it.

SPEAKER_07 16:36

I mean they I mean well, I mean anybody can, you know, approach you in in one manner and have totally different, you know, so uh I'm a pretty security-minded person, if if you will, and you know, I make sure that things are taken care of around the house if I have to approach a situation like that.

SPEAKER_14 16:52

So when you first started doing all that, uh was it TikTok mainly that you started on and was it uh just more for like fun? I'm sure you get asked this a lot, but when did it turn into, hey, I'm just gonna do this kind of thing to like, oh, this could be a business.

The 30-Day Comeback to 3M

SPEAKER_07 17:07

Well the well the l you know, the long story short is is I had an account um to that when I first started out creating content, I would just tell jokes. You know, recycled internet jokes. I wasn't writing anything, you know. And I would always just say, Hey, Crystal, do you want to hear a joke? And she'd say, Not really, and I'd be like, Yeah, I don't care. And then I would tell the joke, right? And some of them hit, some of them didn't, you know, it just depends on the joke, the delivery, and everything else. But what I didn't know at the time was that was teach, I was learning. Every time I would post a video, I would learn a little bit, you know. And uh I got I I gained a good following off that um got to about 600,000 followers, right? And and I was laying in bed one night and you know, it just something clicked. I was like, you know, uh I I was scrolling through and I was watching a video. I th I think it was the video of the girl saying, Hey, you know, quick question, how do you throw a punch? And it just in my head, I was like, with your hand, you know, and I was like, why don't I do that? You know, so I I got up out of bed and I went and filmed, you know, I was like, with your hand. Listen, did you know that the you know typical cumulus cloud weighs, you know, a million pounds? Just redirection, just total ADHD, the way my mind works anyway.

SPEAKER_14 18:17

Which is the beauty that's the beauty of what you're doing.

SPEAKER_07 18:20

And uh the video hit, you know, and I was like, Yeah, it might have been a one-off. Maybe it's just a great idea. So I I did it again the next day, and that one went viral. And then I did it again, and it went viral. And probably about three or four days into this of me doing it, I was like, man, I think I'm on to something here. Uh my account got permanently banned. Right? So I went to TikTok? Yeah, I went from six hundred thousand followers. Well, I had gained about a hundred thousand in that in those few days, right? And um just from going viral over and over and over again. And uh the account came down and I went from six hundred thousand followers to three thousand because I had a backup account, right? It wasn't my backup account. I had I had a backup account, but I gave it to Crystal, so I had changed the name of it and as you know, Crystal Nunley or whatever. And uh I I said, Crystal, I'm I'm gonna take your account back over, you know, and she's like, I don't use TikTok anyway. So I jumped on it, 3,000 followers, and I I remember, you know, getting off work that day and I went and did a uh TikTok live, you know, trying to ask everybody, you know, submit some tickets for me, help me out, you know, help me get my account back. Because I'm thinking, I've got 600,000, 700,000 followers over here. I'm never gonna get back up to that. You know what I'm saying? Like it took me two, two and a half years just to get there. You know what I'm saying? And um I remember I was sitting in the driveway, you know, doing the live, and somebody got on there clowning me because my account got taken down and it lit a fire under me. And I said, the hell with that account. And I jumped, I got out of the truck, went and changed clothes, started posting videos. I posted like five, six videos a day for the next year and a half. But in that 30 days, from that moment that I got out of the truck, 30 days later, I had three million followers on that TikTok account just because that dude pissed me off. You know, and it's been kind of nonstop ever since.

SPEAKER_05 20:07

Wow. So that's impressive.

SPEAKER_07 20:10

Yeah, but I did start on TikTok, so I didn't have the the thought of you know cross-posting videos right out the gate. You know, it took me a little while, and uh finally I was like, Yeah, why don't I just start cross-posting a little bit, you know, and then that's taken off. So here we are. And you know, every every platform, every platform has different rules that you can go by. So there's videos that I can throw up on Instagram that would not fly on TikTok because of their you know strict community guidelines and there's stuff that I can put on Facebook that won't fly on Instagram. It's just weird. And you know, the the whole key to it is is you know, a lot of people when when you know they get they get content violations and get a video taken down, then you know, they they don't learn from it. You know, they just keep doing what they're doing. That's how you wind up losing accounts, that's how I lost my other accounts, you know. So, you know, I just learned from it and I'm like, okay, you know, I can't I can't do that on this platform, but that video stayed up over there, so I'm good over here. You know, so it's just learning, learning things, learning, learning as you go.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

Everybody loves you.

SPEAKER_07 21:12

I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 21:13

Apparently, yeah. Yeah, and a world is very entertaining. That's right.

SPEAKER_13 21:17

People love you, Neil. You learn as you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:19

Well, I've been red that's why I've been red flagged like four times.

SPEAKER_07 21:23

It happens to the best of us, brother.

SPEAKER_15 21:25

Yeah. Well, it's not a created character either. Like you said, you you learn from what you're doing, but it but it seems like it's really you. I don't know you at all. Yeah, and it seems like it's just a big part of you. Like, yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_07 21:36

I mean, it's me. I don't try to be anybody else, you know. And they only made one of me, so I might as well try to be myself. You know, um I tone it down sometimes, you know. I mean, I will I will throw some throw some loose jokes around, you know. Because I mean, uh we're we're in a part of of you know human history where people people tend to get offended over things, even even if it's not the way you intended for them to get it. So you have to, you know, being in that space, you kind of have to understand, okay, even though I don't mean it like this, you know, people are gonna take it that way. So I just kind of have to, you know, you know, skirt around things, you know. And it's just everybody, everybody, I say it all the time.

SPEAKER_13 22:13

Way too sensitive. Everybody is way too sensitive, way too up in them in themselves. Screw you, I'm not sensitive. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. It's true though. You can't, I mean, people just you you can't say anything without uh triggering somebody.

SPEAKER_07 22:25

No, if you if you say something about people getting offended, you're gonna offend people.

SPEAKER_13 22:29

Yeah.

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SPEAKER_07 22:29

You know what I'm saying? I know you're right. Like I it just kind of goes to prove your point that no matter what you say, somebody's gonna get offended over it, you know. So you might as well just be yourself. Yeah, you know. And if you if you like me, you do. If you don't, that's fine too. Yeah, I'm cool with that.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

When did you meet Lavox?

SPEAKER_07 22:46

Uh Bristol, Bristol Motor Speedway Spring Easter race. Was that the first year I was there? 2022. Yeah, he just slid my DMs. And I was like, yeah, on Instagram. And I just happened, I just happened to look at my message request, which I hardly ever do, but I looked at him and I was like, I was like, the lead singer, Rascal Flats. I looked at him, he's like, hey man, I'm in Bristol, you know, uh, I seen that you're here too. Let's get together. And I was like, there is no way that dude just messaged me, right? Because my very first concert that I ever went to, I grew up, you know, uh, I wouldn't say that we were dirt floor poor, but you know, we had carpet, it had dirt in it, you know, we couldn't afford the vacuum cleaner, you know. Uh, but you know, that we didn't go to a lot of concerts when I was younger. We didn't take a lot of family vacations. If we did, we went to Burke Burnett, Texas, you know, to visit my grandparents that lived out there. But uh so the very first concert I ever went to was Chris Cagle in Rascal Flats, right? Wow. And uh yeah, so I thought it was I thought it was kind of crazy, full circle moment of, you know, stepping up in in the you know the RV where where he was at and us doing the video and everything. But yeah.

SPEAKER_13 23:54

Did uh did Chris Kagle cry at that show you want to? No, because he's a talk about a triggered whining man. He all he does is cry. I still gotta ask him Kegel. That's kind of his thing. Why you could quit crying? Just no, there's no crying. What is going on? He's he cries for a living.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Tell us how you really feel about Chris Cry. No, it's it's a legit question.

SPEAKER_13 24:16

It's a legit question. Like he's a professional crier. Yeah. On on cue, bang, tears. Really? That's part of his his stick. That's what he does.

SPEAKER_07 24:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 24:25

I made him cry once.

SPEAKER_07 24:27

I mean, I was uh, dude, I was probably like 18, 19 years old at the time. I have no clue. He might have.

SPEAKER_13 24:34

Yeah. I'm sure he did. If you saw him in in concert, he cried.

SPEAKER_07 24:37

It was in Tupelo, Mississippi.

SPEAKER_13 24:39

He cried in Tupelo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 24:40

Tears and Tupelo. That'd be a good song right there. Tears and Tupelo. Tears and Tupelo. Let's ride it later. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Tell us never playing on a session with him. Well, it worked for I'm not worried about it.

SPEAKER_15 24:52

It did work for Taylor Swift, though. Like back in the day when she was on Paisley's Tour. Who's a woman? She would say breaking down into tears every night. But she would have to cry at the same in the same part of the show, like every night on the Playing Tour. And I was I was out there and I was thinking, God, people are going to catch on to that. You know, it's not going to work. But apparently it worked out pretty good for you.

SPEAKER_13 25:11

That's all that guy does is cry on cue. He's good at it.

SPEAKER_07 25:13

That's wild. But if y'all do wind up writing a song called Tears and Tupelo, I bet my name better be on that shoe. It has to be.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

Well, I you this is why I bring my laptop in.

SPEAKER_07 25:21

Tears and Tupelo.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

Just in case we get song ideas from our guests. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 25:26

Never seen that before.

SPEAKER_03 25:27

Me either. I've never seen that before. Ever before. It looks official. I'm going to start new. If you guys don't care, I don't think you should be looking at that at work. Have you emptied your cache or cleared your history? It looks official. It looks like I'm prepared for the podcast. At least it does.

SPEAKER_15 25:44

Yeah. Was that it?

SPEAKER_03 25:50

No, no. I'll put I'll put the ideas in there. Oh. I'll put them in there. I just can't let him use. Oh god. Because he will. He'll want like a fifth of a song. Okay. Yeah. That's fine.

SPEAKER_07 25:59

I'll take a fifth of anything.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

If you give me a fifth, I'll be happy.

SPEAKER_15 26:04

Hey, you s you said you may have him sing one.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

Oh, I will. I will. Well, that that's uh that goes back to the La Boxe thing.

SPEAKER_07 26:11

Oh, yeah, him giving me voice lessons. Yeah. Yeah, he called me tone deaf. Which he's not wrong.

SPEAKER_03 26:17

I don't I mean, I heard you out here, you're not tonef. Well, no, I fall flat. I will fall flat. We'll find out. It's like the first time I met you was at La Box's farm.

SPEAKER_07 26:27

When you shot that damn deer. Yeah. Yeah. When we told you, hey, you're gonna see plenty up there. We were never gonna kill a deer that day. Me and him were just cutting up down there and making videos the whole time we was in there trying to make up songs on the smile.

SPEAKER_03 26:40

Literally, I'm not kidding, y'all. Him and LaVox had been up because I go to bed all night. I go to bed early. And when you go down to Gary's farm, and if you're hanging and y'all got the camera rolling, and you just you get you got this, you're getting content, you're doing this skit and this skit.

SPEAKER_07 26:56

Oh, it's like an ADD dream, man. Crazy. So you can go polling, you can go shoot archery all in the same room. You never have to leave the the yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:05

And and Nunley's taking full advantage of it.

SPEAKER_07 27:09

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:09

And I'm like, I gotta go to bed. I don't know, it's midnight maybe, because I gotta get up and go hunting. I come back down there to get a cup of coffee the next morning after I get up, right before daylight. They're still in there doing that.

SPEAKER_07 27:21

Oh, we had we had done everything that night. We had called Uncle Cracker, we had talked to David Spade on the phone, we had we had done everything. Like that if that night had been recorded, it would have been just people are like, Y'all didn't, y'all talked to me.

SPEAKER_03 27:35

I'm sure most of it probably was recorded.

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SPEAKER_07 27:37

And I was like, You probably can't put it out. Probably not. No, you're right. You're right. And and some Gary'd be like, Gary be like, you know this person? I'm like, yeah, yeah, who who does it, right? He'd be like, let's call them. I'd be like, there Gary, do you know what time it is? He's like, they'll be up. And they were, you know. We called Cletus T Judd. Yeah, we had on. Yeah, and after me knowing him, I'm like, I don't know why Cletus T answered the phone. Because he goes to bed early.

SPEAKER_03 28:04

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you seem to be running on the same fumes that he runs on.

SPEAKER_07 28:08

Well, I yeah. Yeah. Nowadays. Speed, baby.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

What? Gary, he's a big thing. But when we met, when we met, you wanted to do this thing, and we were sitting in there, we'd just come in from an afternoon hunt.

SPEAKER_07 28:25

Yeah, that video did very well.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

You talking about the video where I don't think it I didn't do well on my account. It did did well on mine.

SPEAKER_07 28:32

I got paid good for that video. I'm joking, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 28:35

I don't remember. If I did, I wouldn't tell you anything you're cutting. Let's give them a snippet of what we did that night.

SPEAKER_14 28:42

Okay. Oh, what we got?

SPEAKER_03 28:44

Because you came walking in, yeah, and you, I don't know, I don't remember what you said to me or whatever. We're over there, me and Gary.

SPEAKER_07 28:50

You're gonna have to, you're gonna have to tell me when to get I I don't do music. You guys first class on a flight from New York to Los Angeles, kinda making small talk, killin' time, flirting with the flight attendants 30,000 feet above. Hell it could be Oklahoma. We farms, man, it all looks the same. Miles and miles of dirt roads and highways connectin' little towns with funny names. Who all live down there in the middle of nowhere?

SPEAKER_06 29:36

They never build through it.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

I met the man who plowed that dirt, planted that seed, busted his ass for you and me by the hotest moon.

SPEAKER_07 29:51

I can't hit that.

SPEAKER_06 29:53

Squeeze your butt cheeks together.

SPEAKER_07 29:55

Yeah. Sting out of my forehead, right? Yeah, what's that study? I can match fantastic. Yeah, see, I can match pitch. When you come in, I can match it, but then I fall off. I can't harmonize. I can't go above and below. I didn't want you to harmonize.

SPEAKER_10 30:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 30:21

I I figured out that I can match pitch very well. Did you sing? So you're not completely toned out. Get back up, do it again. No, you're not toned out. Watch this, watch this. Go ahead. Do it.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

The doors?

SPEAKER_07 30:31

Yeah. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 30:40

The man who plowed that earth planted that seed busted his ass for you and me.

SPEAKER_06 30:47

Are called a hotest moon in Kansas. You'll understand why God made those fly over states.

SPEAKER_13 31:00

Oh, see, I can match. And you've got a you've got this like classic uh Willie Nelson backphrasing thing going on, which is which is I think I think you might have a whole nother chapter to your career.

SPEAKER_05 31:15

I don't think so. Recording artists.

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SPEAKER_07 31:17

No, no, because what's funny is like if you would have stopped singing and I would have kept going, I would have fallen completely flat. And I don't know why. I've tried to figure that out. Whenever you stop singing, I will hold it for a second and then I just Well, that's like most artists today, so you're fine.

SPEAKER_12 31:31

Most of the young artists do the same thing.

SPEAKER_06 31:32

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SPEAKER_03 33:06

Have you had a hot flash yet? No, I'm not a woman. It doesn't matter. You're 41? Yeah. I've literally seriously. The guys get hot flesh? Yes. No, I Googled it. Really? Yep. I want our listeners to send it in.

SPEAKER_13 33:23

Listen to this.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Are you picking up the bigger?

SPEAKER_13 33:28

This is why we can't. This is why we can't have the door open. This is how the podcast opens up.

SPEAKER_06 33:33

This is why we can't have the door open.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Hey, the hot flash thing is for real.

SPEAKER_06 33:38

Your hair's wet.

SPEAKER_03 33:41

It's just hard. The wig is wet. But but I have had a legit hot flash. I have. Have any anybody in here heard of that? Not the men. No, no, no. She was so. I wasn't asked if you had a hot flash. No. Actual danger territory. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? I'm sorry about men having hot flashes. I'm sorry. I don't think. Because nothing good's coming from that conversation. I'm not comfortable with it. Maybe we should take a break in a second. Well, I Googled it and it's it's a real thing. I'm Googling. It's not a real thing. What does it feel like? You just freaking you feel like you're inside the body. Well, you got the T sweating a little bit and it goes away. Really?

SPEAKER_15 34:29

Well, maybe you should use the Manscaped 4000. You wouldn't be so furry and hot. I don't need it.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

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SPEAKER_15 34:35

That is an advert.

SPEAKER_02 34:37

Why are y'all not sponsoring this podcast?

SPEAKER_14 34:39

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Maybe you're furry and hot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 34:42

I guess you can, but you have to have very low T. Do you have low T? What does that mean? Yeah, you are testosterone.

SPEAKER_03 34:48

No, I do not.

SPEAKER_07 34:49

Have you have you had TRT?

SPEAKER_03 34:51

What's that?

SPEAKER_07 34:52

Uh testosterone replacement therapy? No. Yeah, he's got low T. At your age, it has to have fallen off, brother. All right. They say you hit your peak at what, 26, and then it just kind of you want to borrow some of my tea? I have high T. Are you lactating?

unknown 35:08

No.

SPEAKER_07 35:09

Not that I know of.

SPEAKER_15 35:10

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Not that I know of.

SPEAKER_07 35:12

I know a guy that that used to lactate. Really? I mean, I ain't known him in years, but yeah, he would, yeah. Wait a minute. Really? This is fantastic. Oh, I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, it's a thing. Really? It's a thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

Man lactation.

SPEAKER_07 35:24

Yeah, man lactation. Did he sell the milk? That's the song right there. Man lactation.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

You could bottle the milk and sell it. I'm surprised they don't know. So what do you think? Let's talk. Let's talk some college football here. Yeah, roll tide. Yeah, I know, because you and I both are Roll Tide? Yes. Roll Tide? You and Valls. No. You're a volunteer? Yeah, we're working that way.

SPEAKER_07 35:42

Do you know why there's no prostitutes in Tennessee? Why there's what? Because they're all why there's no prostitutes in Tennessee? I do not. Because they're all volunteers. Who do you root for?

SPEAKER_13 35:52

I pull for the Bulldogs. I don't know. But again, it's like uh college football is a a side note to me. So it's fine.

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SPEAKER_07 35:58

Some minor leagues issue. It really is a minor league situation.

SPEAKER_13 36:01

Not so much now, though, that the players uh they've got money to play for now.

SPEAKER_07 36:06

Dude, that that's ruined college football. And I hate to say it like that because it's like, you know, you should be you should be compensated for your name, image, and likeness. I get that. Yeah. It's gotten out of control. It is definitely gotten out of control. I mean, Lord have mercy. When you've got when you've got college freshmen making more money than than people in the NFL, that is wild.

SPEAKER_14 36:27

They're gonna have to find a way to either cap it or some way get it back in place because it's it's out of control.

SPEAKER_04 36:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 36:35

And like you said, it's like now guys aren't even going to go to the draft because they can make way more money in college.

SPEAKER_07 36:40

Which is kind of good for college football at the same time because you know I've always said, I'm like, you know, you get a couple of these guys that come in for their for their senior season that were a Heisman runner-up or won the Heisman their junior year, you get them to come back. Man, Lord have mercy.

SPEAKER_14 36:53

Thinking like Carson Beck, uh, who went to Miami, he got paid a ton of money, and people thought, oh, he's gonna be trash. He actually played pretty good for Miami the first couple games. Yeah, his draft stock now is gonna rise again. It's a win for the stuff. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 37:06

Because that's my favorite thing, is half these guys cannot play in the NFL. Sure. But so they should make good money. Yeah, I mean, and so and they risk getting hurt, and they I I get all that, but the other side of it, like, it's a little weird as an out. I'm not, like I said, not having a uh pure college affiliation to anything. It's a little weird watching these guys get paid that kind of money.

SPEAKER_07 37:29

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_13 37:29

It's like, okay, this is college football.

SPEAKER_07 37:31

Yeah. Well, I mean, you got you got you got freshmen rolling up into you know training camp on in Lamborghinis and Hellcats and everything else.

SPEAKER_03 37:38

Yeah, they let that get out of hand early.

SPEAKER_07 37:41

Hey, do you know why Tennessee wears orange? So they can they can hunt on Friday, go to the game on Saturday, or the go to the game on Saturday, hunt on Sunday, and pick up garbage on the side of the road on Monday.

SPEAKER_15 37:53

Are these all new to you? They're they're new. Yeah, I didn't realize this is gonna be a total bashing on the Tennessee. I didn't warn you planned out you shouldn't have been late. I wasn't late. I wasn't late. I was seven minutes early. I was seven minutes early. And Tennessee did beat Alabama last year.

SPEAKER_07 38:11

I knew you were gonna get it. So last time we played, we did win. You did. We did win. A blind hog will find a nut every once in a while. And it was against Saban. It was, and that's it.

SPEAKER_15 38:19

So that's beautiful to me as a Tennessee fan because Saban's a brilliant coach. So it's cool for them to get that win. Well, you know, it's I don't know what'll happen this year.

SPEAKER_07 38:26

And to give you y'all's flowers a little bit, is that uh I'll tell you what's gonna happen with you here in just a second after I say this, but I've always said that that college football is this coming from a diehard Alabama fan. I've got a tat Alabama tattoo on the back of my calf, and I name my oldest son Bryant.

SPEAKER_06 38:40

It goes pretty deep with our fan of the roll tie, brother.

SPEAKER_03 38:44

Amen.

SPEAKER_07 38:44

Um But I college football is better when the Tennessee volunteers are good. Period. Yeah. Like Tennessee, you know, Tennessee being good makes college football better. It does. It really does. It really does.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

But where In our world it does, for sure.

SPEAKER_07 38:58

Well, y'all would have had a good season, but Josh Heipel screwed it up this past week.

SPEAKER_15 39:02

He did mess it up. Now, now that said, that's that's a big statement. Like the season's definitely not over. Yes, it is. Oh, you go seven and five now. It's not season over. No, it's not, it's definitely not over. But that was a that was a huge. I mean, there's no way I can cover it and say, hey, they scored a lot of points. Oh no, you had that you had the heavyweight champ on the rope, brother. And and they and they let it go, and I feel I feel super bad for that.

SPEAKER_13 39:25

We were watching the game on the road. Uh again, no, I mean, I don't love volunteers, obviously. I mean, but it's fine, it's whatever. But they had him on the ropes, and then they what was the score we were watching?

SPEAKER_14 39:41

It was after the turnover, they got it. They got whatever it was first and 15, but they were out there 40-yard line. They ran three times down. They ran three times out.

SPEAKER_13 39:50

Trying not to lose just to play for the field goal, trying not to lose. And that kid came in, I looked at Curtis said, That's not even the problem.

SPEAKER_07 39:57

That's not even the problem. The problem is, is you try to get the ball to the middle of the field when the linemen jumped, right? And you get pushed five yards back. Now you're gonna have to kick from that distance anyways. That's right. What are the chances of you getting another false start penalty right after that? You run the same play, get the ball to the middle of the field, and give the kid, you know, it's not gonna hurt anything. You still got a timeout in your place. And have a chance, you know? And and everybody knows you had to have not watching that game. That that game goes to overtime, George winning that game.

SPEAKER_15 40:24

Yeah, as a Tennessee fan, I I knew that. Yeah, 100%. I wouldn't like, hey, we still got overtime. I wasn't thinking that. Right. No. I just think it's they if that's that's it. If we got overtime, because the momentum was totally lost, everybody and our defense, you know, they're they're like, well, crap, and even when we scored a field goal, you know, oh when you scored the field goal, I said it's over. And and the kid made the field goal from the same distance he missed from, you know, which is great. He got the points, but you could just tell, you could tell the energy on the field and the stands went flat. You know, it it was it was flat. It was uh that was a really, really tough one.

SPEAKER_07 40:56

I was pulling for y'all.

SPEAKER_15 40:57

I know it was. It was a good game. Thank you. It was a good game. But it was it was a good game.

SPEAKER_13 41:01

There were some good moments to the to the Sunday slate now. Oh actual football. Go beat. Um you're a Bills fan.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

He's gonna get ripped for saying what he just said.

SPEAKER_13 41:09

Okay, why are you? That's fine. You're gonna get ripped.

SPEAKER_15 41:11

That's fine because all those players come from college, they don't cut come from home and then they just find out. That's okay.

SPEAKER_13 41:17

We never did we never diss the NFL. But you diss college football. I don't. My favorite thing is is watching well, this is I I love watching the Arch Manning nuclear fallout. That's I I do like watching that kind of stuff about college football. But you're a Bills fan.

SPEAKER_07 41:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 41:34

How did that come to be?

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SPEAKER_07 41:36

Well, okay, so when when I was when back in the 90s, right? When when the Cowboys and the Bills, the Bills were going to Super Bowls left and right, they went to four in a row, right? And and I like the Bills back then. I love Thurman Thomas, right? I just loved I even had a Bills clock in my room in North Alabama, right? And everybody else pulling for the pulling for the cowboys. Maybe it was just a little rebellion, you know, everybody else pulling for the cowboys and pull for the Bills. Now I hadn't watched NFL in years and years and years, right? And um my my youngest son loves football. He'll sit and watch the Alabama games with me and everything. And uh he fell in love with the Bills, absolutely fell in love with them. And I was like, well, I can get behind that, you know, and it's something that me and him do do. I even took him up to a Buffalo game for a playoff game. It was a snow game. He had seen snow.

SPEAKER_13 42:26

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_07 42:27

Yeah, oh, and that the at what made me fall in love with the Bills and while I will be a lifelong Bills fan is that atmosphere up there in the snow was nothing has ever matched.

SPEAKER_13 42:38

Well, that whole city is built. It's like Green Bay. It's like Green Bay. It's like Green Bay. That whole that whole lifeblood of that city runs through that football team. It's built into the city. So you gotta feel good about if I'm a Bills fan, um, you gotta feel good about your QB and oh yeah, the way that he is like what you would everything you'd want in a quarterback. Like he's cowboy tough and he's he is he's not he's gonna carry that team on his back.

SPEAKER_07 43:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_13 43:07

And you got and that that's I love watching him play football. And like I said, the Patriots, they're you know, they're gonna have it down a couple years, and I don't have a dog in the fight, really. Certainly not gonna beat Josh Allen. I'm actually pulling for him to do it because Matt City deserves it.

SPEAKER_03 43:24

They have that look, though. They have that look like we're not gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_13 43:27

And I want it and I want it for Jim Kelly too. I want it for all those guys that played Thurman Thomas.

SPEAKER_07 43:31

Well, it's a shame that Jim Kelly didn't get it. I mean, uh four times in a row. Man, that has got to be. He's in that ESPN. Yeah, the four falls of Buffalo. Yeah, phenomenal documentary, very sad. You know, and well when we were in Buffalo, you know, we got treated so nice by everybody up there, right? And Buffalo Bills even reached out to me on Instagram and said, hey, uh, you know, after the game, if you and your son would like to come on the field and and you know, play catch or whatever. Now it is like it's right there on the river. It feels like I think the the wind chill was like maybe negative two or something. It was so cold, and I Blake was already upset because we had lost to the Chiefs, right? It was a playoff game before we lost to the Chiefs. And uh but before the game, we was sitting, you know, front row down there in the corner of the end zone, and he got to play catch with Stefan Diggs when Diggs was still there. And that was his favorite player. I was like, dude, this is like the greatest, you know, and getting to see it from a from a kid's perspective. Of course, it's all about had a blast.

SPEAKER_13 44:28

I love that place. Well, I hope I mean you got a good shot at it. I think I'm pulling for him.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

You know, I hope they can make it. Yeah. Yeah. He's I think they have a different look. I think they're gonna go all the way.

SPEAKER_07 44:37

I really if we can get past the Chiefs. That's that seems to have been our Achilles heel the past two you know postseasons. Well, it's all gonna come to we can beat him in the regular season.

SPEAKER_13 44:47

Plus, how healthy are the Chiefs gonna get when they get their you know, worthy comes back and I love it when our podcast turns into a sports cast. Which which brings me to the case.

SPEAKER_07 44:59

No, you should. Yeah, I think it'd be great.

SPEAKER_03 45:01

So, what do you think about uh women refs?

SPEAKER_07 45:06

I support anything they want to do.

SPEAKER_03 45:09

No, I don't want you tiptoeing around. No, I'm not I'm not I want you to be honest Don't you BS me.

SPEAKER_07 45:15

No, I'm being real. I'm being real. Here's here's the real answer. Are they are they the are they the best option? Are the are the are they the most qualified or they the best option over all the other competition that they have? If the answer is yes, have at it, girl. You know what the answer is. And if it's not, then no. You know why they're there. Right.

unknown 45:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 45:35

Oh, I know why they're there.

SPEAKER_15 45:36

This particular question has not come up on this podcast.

SPEAKER_03 45:38

No, it hasn't. And and since we were going down that road of the NFL, I figured it I just thought of it. I'm like, hmm, I don't like it. I just want everybody to be honest. I don't like it. Who doesn't?

SPEAKER_07 45:52

I think it's hard for a female to to referee a game that they never played. Never played. That's what I'm talking about. You know, I th I think that's that's hard to do. What about WNBA? They played and they understand, you know, that you know, it may have been pass interference, but given the situation, it really ain't. You know what I'm saying? Those type situations, and uh you can't just never been there. Right, I agree. I think the I think the hardest.

SPEAKER_15 46:18

I think well, I think I think uh a couple things. Like, like to me, there are a lot of women that they've they're raised with their dads and their brothers, and they know as much about football and baseball and everything else as any of us do. I think it would be difficult.

SPEAKER_03 46:33

I don't know why. You don't think a woman could know as much about she could know, she could know, but she has no business Go ahead.

SPEAKER_15 46:40

I mean, so anyway, I mean if that's all you ever cared about as a girl coming up and and football and stuff like that. But no, what I'm telling you, what I'm saying is where I think it'd be the most difficult is is the players respecting that because a lot of those refs, you know, they they are they're they're jacked. I mean, they're big, they're big men, you know, most of them, you know, so you look like they could be played. There's some big women now, too. But well, but I'm just saying it might be it might be hard because some of those people were ridiculous, brother.

SPEAKER_03 47:07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_15 47:07

That'd be the hardest thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:09

I don't I don't like it.

SPEAKER_15 47:10

But I don't know why they couldn't. I mean, they're not playing. I don't know why they couldn't. They don't need to be couldn't rest.

SPEAKER_03 47:15

We'll we all know why they're out there to begin with. It's like let the men just let them have our stuff. Why can't we just enjoy the men's stuff? I agree with Neil on this. Just let them know. I don't know. Even my daughter, even my oldest, even my oldest daughter's like, she she does she goes as far, and this isn't coming from me, this is coming from her. She goes as far as going, she she doesn't like to see women on the sidelines. She doesn't like women sports casters in football at all.

SPEAKER_15 47:38

I don't know. I I I like that.

SPEAKER_03 47:39

I don't mind that. I'm just I'm just gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_07 47:41

Well, let me ask you guys to reciprocate that question. Do you think it wasn't me? I didn't see that. No, right, right. But do you think do you think men should should be umpiring women's college softball? Bam.

SPEAKER_06 47:54

Uh yes. Come on. They didn't have one without only women should be a danger.

SPEAKER_03 48:01

Yes, you can. How? You can't explain. I think in that situation, both are qualified. Both.

SPEAKER_02 48:07

How?

SPEAKER_03 48:08

In NFL, both are not qualified. It's just all it is is slow baseball. Super slow baseball. It's just money and it's the money that's wait for the feedback. Both are camoufied in in softball. In football, no. Hey, let the let the women have their football.

SPEAKER_13 48:30

Let the women um ump it. Like wait honestly, let just let us have our stuff and I don't know. I love you, Neil, but I don't agree.

SPEAKER_11 48:37

Okay, that's fine. Whatever.

SPEAKER_13 48:39

Like your haircut. Yeah, that's where he goes. He goes just personal. He knows I love him. I I don't the the sideline reporters that doesn't bother me as much. I don't I don't want to hear um a woman do the play-by-play on a football game or hockey game.

SPEAKER_07 48:55

No, neither. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 48:56

That that annoys me. Um I don't get that. It can do the WMBA. That'd be fine.

SPEAKER_03 49:02

I got nothing against women.

SPEAKER_07 49:03

I mean, I'm gonna come across and maybe it's you know, well, no, I mean I I think any anybody should comment on an opinion. I don't I don't think so. I mean I I can see where you're coming from. I mean, you know, the the MLB put the the female umpire behind the plate, right? And she blew like the first few calls, yeah, right? Rung somebody up on a bad call that was like obviously a bad call, you know what I'm saying? And it's like it's like uh do we really have the most qualified person out there? I know. If you if you can't if you can't call it.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

If you look at refs today, especially the male refs, they're all jacked. You don't see any tubs out there running with these guys. I mean, Tyreek Hill takes off. You I mean, a lot of these guys are doing a pretty good job. No, but a lot of these refs are doing a pretty good job keeping up.

SPEAKER_07 49:47

You probably wouldn't be able to get a head start.

SPEAKER_03 49:48

I know I couldn't.

SPEAKER_15 49:50

They get a head start because they can tell they can see the play development, they start they get ahead of and makes it look, they look fast, but they're like 20 yards ahead.

SPEAKER_03 49:56

I never did you do you think women refs should be.

SPEAKER_15 50:00

I'm alright with it. I'm alright with uh, you know, and if they're if you have the show like uh what about like Laura Rutledge on SEC when you talk about college flora? I love Laura Rutledge. She's educated, she's not a man, she didn't know. Tracy Wilson's always doing a good job. Yeah. But so would you not like would you not like her? Would you think I didn't say that?

SPEAKER_03 50:16

I didn't say that about sports broadcasts.

SPEAKER_15 50:18

But you just say you don't like you don't like MBS.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

I'm talking about refs here. Yeah. I bet you Laura Rutledge would agree with me.

SPEAKER_13 50:30

NHL. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 50:32

No, no, not ever gonna happen. I don't know much about about hockey. I love watching it in person, right? I I think that hockey players are the best athletes in the country.

SPEAKER_13 50:42

Oh, it's insane. It is crazy. Have you ever tried to skate, brother?

SPEAKER_03 50:45

Yeah, that is wonderful. You gotta remember that on on a on a little blade. No, those dudes are those dudes. That's an athlete right there. Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 50:53

Absolutely insane. What about Alabama Crimson Tide, though? You know, we can talk about that.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

Well, what do you well let's let's go to Debor. So I know the first week.

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SPEAKER_07 51:03

Yeah, first week, and I made some I made some big statements online after the game. I was at the game. You know, I took my my youngest son and my dad. It was both at their birthday weekend. It was my retirement weekend. Yeah, he's gone. It was my retirement weekend, and I, you know, I I got a uh driving service to take us over to Tallahassee from Fort Walton. You know, I was trying to, you know, hey, we we go and we go and beat some ass. You know, we we go and we go and you know straight straight belt to ass on this one. Nope. I even hey dude, I feel like a complete clown because we were sitting there and they was talking about, you know, pregame how many ACC championships or how many yeah, how many ACC championships Florida State has, and we had some Florida State fans sitting in front of us and me, I like to talk some shit, you know. Uh and I said, I said, we've got more nannies than they have ACC championships, you know. And and they never said a word, you know. They, you know, and the whole game they were just very cordial and everything. And and then later the game got, I say, Yeah, we're about to get our ass beat. Yeah. And then it wasn't even close. Like we we got ran out of that stadium. Yep. You know, we left. I'd never I've never left a game. Literally have never left a game early. I mean, they didn't show up. Yeah, I always say, Yeah, well, with the with the quarterback can't throw a ball anywhere but the receiver's feet, I'm like, I'm done. I can't do this anymore. Like, I'm not gonna sit here and and and be miserable for the last quarter and have set in traffic too. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 52:32

So you catch a lot of flack uh for being a Bama fan on with uh from your followers?

SPEAKER_07 52:39

No, because I'm just unapologetic about it. I'm I've always been a Bama fan, you know? Yeah. Uh no, I don't think so. Really? If I do, I don't pay attention to it. You know, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_15 52:47

I figured you would.

SPEAKER_07 52:48

Yeah, I mean, people gonna have shit to say about everything. Let them talk, who cares?

SPEAKER_15 52:53

Well, so you had so you had that bad game, right?

SPEAKER_07 52:56

Yeah, and then I came out that that weekend, somebody made a video and and was talking about us losing, kind of rubbing my nose in it a little bit, and me and him went back and forth on he's a volunteer fan. Right. What's his name? Gingerbilli. And gingerbilly don't know this yet, and you know, I can just throw it out to him right now. We've done a jersey bet the past two years. Hey, let's put beards on it. Let's put beards on it this year. Alabama, Alabama, Tennessee. Your beard versus my beard. Alabama wins, you gotta shave your beard. Tennessee wins, I'll shave mine.

SPEAKER_10 53:29

There it is.

SPEAKER_15 53:30

There you go. That's a little uh yeah, that's a little harder for him to take because they're they're in Tuscaloosa this year.

SPEAKER_07 53:38

Yeah, I know. It's it sucks too.

SPEAKER_15 53:39

So you're already gonna have it. Yeah, I'm not dumb. I hope you're already gonna have an advantage. And like any time that Alabama or Georgia, like any anybody that we really need need to beat, when they have like a crap of a game, it's like, God, why can't we play a team like that on that particular day? Yeah. You know, because every time as a Vols fan, because we've you know, you have you know Valls Battered Syndrome, but it's like yeah, like they always play their best, you know, so it's it's just hard. So even though they lost that game, a true Vols fan, educated. I mean, I read about recruiting like every morning and stuff like that. I read about the players' injury report and all that stuff. I used to we always to me it it helps it helps me like on instead of saying, hey, we're Tennessee and we're gonna win. Well, you you you don't have enough uh uh players. Now now we are getting closer to where we have have a lot better players. I love it, do love our coaching staff, stuff like that. Love our QB, Aguilar. I think Josh He's gonna be great. I think Hippel's a good uh good coach and good recruiter, team builder, stuff like that, you know. So but anyway, I think they're I think they're doing good, but I the fact that they lost that game makes them more dangerous as the season goes on because they're they're all must-wins. Look at Telly and Kurt, they are bored out of their minds.

SPEAKER_13 54:53

I actually love the atmosphere of the SEC, like I do, like when I moved to Nashville early '96, I was blown away by the like football, college football. Because where I grew up, it was just wasn't a thing. But I do love the atmosphere. Like watching that game the other night was fun. Oh, and and it's a great atmosphere up there. You know, I just it's tough football to watch sometimes, but that's college football.

SPEAKER_07 55:16

You like offensive football, don't you?

SPEAKER_13 55:18

No, actually I don't. I mean I I like I like I like low-scoring games. I like just a good I just like good football, man. I love good defense. I just a football. Today, Patriots won most of their Super Bowls with good defense. It wasn't like necessarily, you know, except the time it came back and beat Atlanta. Dude, that was wild. That was crazy. Yeah. But at any rate, I do I do appreciate the SEC especially. I what I don't like is what happened, was it last week where the second week of the year like Georgia plays Austin P. And then I hate those Cupcamps? I wish they would get rid of them.

SPEAKER_07 55:51

If you get rid of the Cupcake games and go straight into conference schedule from the get-go, go to a 16-team playoff every conference champion, and then you have, you know, uh, you know, I th I think you'd have like four at large and everything, that'd be phenomenal. I do like the playoff system.

SPEAKER_13 56:06

Better make college football. It makes a person like myself who wasn't really that into college football. I get into it with the playoff system now, but it's it's the throwaway games.

SPEAKER_07 56:14

If you're not affiliated with a school, it's like it's hard to really but it's also there's also a uh aspect to that too that it's good for these smaller colleges because those smaller colleges get paid a lot of money right now.

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SPEAKER_03 56:27

And then every now and then they will win Louisiana and get a million bucks. Hey, y'all better watch out for Vanderbilt. Huh. I'm not sure. They had a big road win. They just beat South Carolina like a dog at South Carolina. In Columbia. They beat them 31. Wasn't it 31 to 7? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 56:47

That should be a baseball school.

SPEAKER_03 56:49

South Carolina was ranked 11.

SPEAKER_07 56:50

Well, it's South Carolina.

SPEAKER_15 56:52

I love it. Well, they're playing they were playing beamer ball and didn't work.

SPEAKER_03 56:56

I'm just saying. Watch out for Vanderbilt. Nashville is gonna come alive. It's gonna turn into a college football town. But to go back and done.

SPEAKER_07 57:03

To go back to your question, Debor. About women refs? No, Deborah. We're past that. Uh we ain't going back to that.

SPEAKER_15 57:11

No, we don't need to.

SPEAKER_07 57:12

No, Deboer, I don't I don't think Debore's the guy. Don't think he's been the guy. When you lose to Oklahoma last year, you lose to Vanderbilt, you lose the first game, you lose the first game of the season for the first time in what, 21 years? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:25

Brother. I know. We we I don't think he's the guy. He might be the guy.

SPEAKER_07 57:31

We may be eating Crow. You know, if he if if he turns it around and winds up winning an SEC championship this year and falls into a natty, yeah, I'll I'll gladly eat Crow, but I don't think he's the guy.

SPEAKER_03 57:41

Yeah, but you won't, it's not like eating Crow. It's it's everything, everybody's opinions about him and the way the team was prepared on that first week.

SPEAKER_07 57:50

They weren't even hustling.

SPEAKER_03 57:51

That was legit.

SPEAKER_07 57:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:52

I mean, we we everybody had a legitimate argument. Your team should not be You had nine months to get ready for that.

SPEAKER_07 57:59

What did y'all do the night before? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What were they doing the night before? Not sleeping? Yeah, apparently. Yeah. What were they doing the week before? Not preparing.

SPEAKER_14 58:23

Hey, let's get back to you as like a a content creator, because that's kind of fascinates me. We're musicians, we're songwriters, we're producers, our whole songwriters. Yeah, I know. Our whole life is inundated with music. It's like 24-7. Music. You have to do that for you. It's like that's what you're doing all the time is being creative, trying to be a content creator. In your off time, do you ever just scroll and look?

SPEAKER_07 58:51

No, man. Well, no.

SPEAKER_03 58:53

That's so selfish.

SPEAKER_07 58:54

No. I don't. I don't have time for it anymore. You know, uh, my screen time, I was I was talking to somebody the other day and they said, Man, what's your screen time look like? I was like, dog, you don't even want to know. It's embarrassing. My screen, he's like, he's like, now tell me. 16 and a half hours. Oh, god. But I stay, I stay cooking. Like it is a full-time job, man.

SPEAKER_14 59:13

Well, see, that's the thing, it's a full-time job, and it's not being creative isn't like, oh, well, I'm in wait till I'm inspired to go do something. Right. You gotta be doing it all the time.

SPEAKER_07 59:22

Yeah, you just stay inspired, man. If you don't, you better fake it.

SPEAKER_14 59:25

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 59:26

Right.

SPEAKER_14 59:26

That's like writing a song. It's not like, oh, we're inspired with the thing. Let's go write. Yeah. No, you show up and then it's just like bodybuilders.

SPEAKER_07 59:32

You think bodybuilders want to go in the gym every day? Hell no. They have off days, they still go. Yeah, yeah, I do still go.

SPEAKER_14 59:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:39

You are well, brother.

SPEAKER_06 59:42

He needs some TRT.

SPEAKER_15 59:45

Amen. But I would say a difference is between songwriting and and what you do is that is that we can get halfway through a song and say, uh, it's three o'clock. We got another day in a couple weeks. Let's just break and do that. But you have to put something out. Like every Yeah, well I don't have to.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:02

We don't have to finish it. I don't have to, but I've always put it upon myself that I have to I you know in my mind I have to put out at least three videos a day.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:11

A day. Three a day.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:12

You know, and and it just you know the way my mind works is I don't work good by scheduling ahead. So and I I have for the past five years, I have uploaded at least two, at least two, most of the time three and four, sometimes five, every day for the past five years. Haven't taken a day off.

SPEAKER_14 1:00:28

You don't get Christmas off.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:30

I don't take a day off.

SPEAKER_14 1:00:31

Yeah.

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SPEAKER_07 1:00:31

No. If I know that I've if I know I'm gonna be locked up doing something all day or whatever, I will I will record a head and you know put it in the can to automatically post or whatever, but that's very rare.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:43

That's amazing, man. That takes a lot of discipline to do that.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:47

Yeah. It really does. Well, I mean, today, like when we leave here, I'll be in my AirPods with her driving and I'll be sitting there scrolling her editing, doing whatever I gotta do.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:57

Never ends.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:58

No. Well, I mean, we just and today we just recorded four podcast episodes. Tomorrow we're gonna record four, and the day after that we're gonna record four. Right. So it's just like a never-ending you still look amazing. Thanks. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:13

I'm tired.

SPEAKER_15 1:01:15

Well, at at your level of success now, do you do you look at other people doing the same thing you're doing and kind of evaluate them or judge them or put them down like Tully does? No. Shout out to Chris Cagle.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:31

There's evidence. No, no, I don't. You know, everybody's got their, you know, a lot of people, a lot of people have got to where they ask me my opinion on things, right, and and how they should do things. And I, you know, most of the time I tell them, hell if I know, I'm still figuring it out myself. But I'll tell you what I think has worked for me, you know, uh being being consistent, always showing up is is huge. And then uh just just being unapologetically yourself is like the biggest thing, you know. Uh consistency and being yourself.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:05

Then I gotta ask you, did you uh when try that in a small town came out, did you post about it?

SPEAKER_07 1:02:10

Yeah, I think I put out a video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because everybody everybody had come out and we had known each other for what about a year, year and a half at that point, you know. And people, you know, people were like, oh, it's racist dog whistles, and you know, uh, you know, it that's such a racist song. And I, you know, I said, no. I said uh the I know one of the writers of the song very well, a good friend of mine, Neil Thrasher. I was like, there ain't a racist bone in his body that I have seen, you know, and I've I've been around Neil enough to know that if, you know, we've we've been in spaces before that if somebody was going to drop the word, you know, it would have been dropped there. You know, it was, you know, closed doors, no videos rolling. So I I know the man's character. No, that's not what that song is about. It's just about, you know, we're we're we're tired of the we're tired of the BS.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:54

You know, did you get hate for saying that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:57

Maybe I did. I don't look at it. I am whatever. No matter, like I said earlier, no matter what you say, people are gonna be mad and people are gonna come at you. Who cares? Yeah, you know, it don't matter what you do, you know. And and the fact is, here's the thing with with where we're at in society, is that if somebody has already made their mind up that Neil Thrasher's a racist for writing that song, you're a racist. You know what I'm saying? Like, what are you gonna do to change their mind?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:20

That's right.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:20

You know, it's like why are we all arguing with each other? It ain't gonna do no good. Ain't nobody changing their minds about shit. Yeah, right. You know, that's kind of just where I'm at. That's right. So I'm like live and let live, man, whatever.

SPEAKER_15 1:03:30

Jim, that'll be a great clip where uh he says that Neil Thrasher is a racist. I think that'll be idea. I'm not trying to, and I'm not trying to do your job, but I just heard that Hey, so I and I asked this out of ignorance. Uh is there award shows yet or anything like that for for you guys for you know the most amount of views and uh followers and all that stuff in the shortest amount of time. I mean there's like there would be at some at some point somebody. That would be so much more legit than the American Music Awards or any numb nut a week shows. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:06

I probably wouldn't show up. You don't you wouldn't he wouldn't. Really? I can show you. I wouldn't show up. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:11

I I'm I'd stay at home and keep grinding.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:14

You know, there's there are some award shows, and I've you know, I have attended one back in the day. There's one that some creators do or whatever. And uh, you know, I went I went to one and won the comedy, you know, portion of it, never went to another one. Um so I that's the only award show that I've ever went to that I have been nominated for anything. Uh, you know, if uh you know People's Choices invited me the past two years up for for their award shows up here in Nashville, and I don't know if they've reached out this year or not, but even if they do, I'm probably not gonna go, you know, just because uh I don't know. What good does it do? You know what I'm saying? I mean I can sit and watch that at home. Uh that's kind of about how uh that's when you know you're getting older, right? Where you're like, yeah, I can sit at home and watch this.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:54

Well, but then for your fans though, that that would be cool if they saw you. Like if you're if you could be at that award show, you know, your fans would like to see you there, probably. You know, I'm just gonna go to the next one. Yeah, no, no.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:05

Well, you know, uh keeping it. What was it? The uh what what was the one that uh Bailey Zimmerman had me come to last year? It was at the uh one of the big country awards. Yeah, so was it the ACM Awards?

SPEAKER_15 1:05:18

No, she said Big Country.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:20

I think it was the ACM Awards. He invited me to come out and be on stage with him, which was actually pretty cool because my uh cousin, Dustin Nunley, is uh Luke Combs guitarist, right? Oh yeah, so you've got Dustin Nunley and Justin Nunley, and I thought it was really cool that that two Nunleys, you know, from a little small hick town in North Mississippi and North Alabama were all on the same award show stage on the same night. Not at the same time, but the same night. So that was pretty cool. That was really cool.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:48

You know, on the other side of the People's Choice Awards, it's like your demographic, I probably isn't watching the People's Choice awards.

Tennessee vs Alabama: Momentum, Coaching

SPEAKER_07 1:05:57

My demographic's probably laying in bed scrolling on my phone, you know what I'm saying? Well, and you know, TV, TV legacy media, you know, TV and and I would say radio uh is dead. You know, who's who's watching who's most of the time people are scrolling on their phones. And the only time you really are watching TV, you know, most people is watching a sporting event. You know, and as soon as as soon as commercials come on, what's everybody doing? I even noticed it this past year during the Super Bowl. I looked around. Most a lot of people used to just watch Super Bowl for the commercials. I looked around and I I looked and everybody had their phone out and was scrolling during the game, you know, during the commercial break. And I was like, and all of these people paid that much money. Right. You could have paid, you could have paid a fraction of the cost to me, and I'd have threw a video out for you. You know, people would have caught it during the halftime show. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So that's that's I think I think uh and and a lot of these big execs are trying to figure it out. You know what I'm saying? Um but yeah, I think I think like radio spots, you know, is dying off. And that's not how people you can you can be your own advertising agency now. You know, that's what I told Gus when you know I went to work with him at Harley Davidson. He's like, So what are you gonna do? And I said, I'm gonna turn you into your own advertising. I was like, he's like, well, we already do this, this, and this. And I said, You ain't gonna need it. You know, give me six months, you'll be fine. You know, and and he's pretty much cut every bit of it out. He's like, you were exactly right. You know, the rest of the rest of the motorcycle industry is kind of down right now, and and we're doing five, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:35

You got red fin?

SPEAKER_07 1:07:36

Red fin. I've got red fin, Waze, um Redfin's of uh sunglasses, yeah. Polarized, red fin polarized. Uh and uh big ghost tractor and equipment. Uh Harley. Is there anything I'm missing? Waze energy drinks.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:55

I figured you'd be like involved with the hat that I have on.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:59

What is that?

SPEAKER_15 1:08:01

Apparently not.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:03

I was wondering about that. It's a decent logo.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:05

So you've never seen the logo in your life.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:07

I don't know what that is. Birdie.

SPEAKER_15 1:08:09

It looks good.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:09

What's Birdie? You never heard of Birdie? What's Birdie? Really? I thought Jared was like one of your best friends in the whole world.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:17

Oh, Jared, Redfin Jared.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:18

Jared White, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:19

Oh yeah, he's involved with another sunglass company. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:24

Breaking news here on uh we're gonna go to break.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:27

I just knew I was gonna break. I just knew when I wore this hat.

unknown 1:08:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:32

Yeah, we gotta get you in some redfin shit. Oh my lord. Are you are you part of that?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:36

No.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:37

Oh, what are you wearing then for?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:39

But but the birdie glasses actually help me make more putts, and it's true. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they do. And redfin helps you catch more fish.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:46

Yeah, redfin, redfin will actually get those testosterone numbers up, really.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:55

Are you fixing to keep me out? Oh yeah. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:00

You uh are a hitting coach or were a hitting coach. What? Yeah, yeah. So did you play or how did that whole thing start or happen?

SPEAKER_07 1:09:07

Yeah, I mean, I I played all through all through school and everything. I never I never did anything past high school or anything, but um I'm a student of the game. I love baseball. I'm a student of the game of baseball. I understand on the molecular level of hitting. I love hitting. Ooh, I like this conversation. I love it. And and you know, I'm I'm I'm good with teaching kids how to do it, you know, uh softball and baseball.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:30

Yeah. So what's your favorite uh MLB hitter of all time?

SPEAKER_07 1:09:34

Oh, of all time. It's different. Okay, so it's uh that's a trick question because who's my favorite hitter? What is my favorite swing of all time?

SPEAKER_13 1:09:43

Maybe favorite wasn't the real Ted Williams. That's what I was gonna say. Ted Williams.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:46

Tony Gwynn. Tony Gwynn was a better hitter than Ted Williams. He was, right. You'd have to some of his stats are wild. Some of his stats are wild.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:54

They are.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:55

No, I'm not taking anything away from Ted Wynn was a great hitter.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:57

I will I will say, because I I love the art of hitting. I love Ted Williams, Gwynn, Wade Boggs, some I love watching those guys hit Paul Moller, those guys, old school guys, hitters, slap hitters, Peter.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:08

Paul Molliter wearing his wearing his baton helmet over there on first days, man. It's like that dude with the dugout and forgot to put his hat back on all the time.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:15

But all but I do love that that is a that the art of hitting and the and the and that that is My favorite current player is Mike Trout.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:24

I think he's gonna go down as probably the greatest to ever play the game if he stays healthy. Because if you look at his sabermetrics and and his war, like it is wild, wins above replacement. I think he's gonna wind up going down as the greatest player to ever play the game and probably never win a uh World Series because being with Angels, right? Uh greatest swing of all time, Ken Griffey Jr. Period. That dude got on plane, stayed on plane, and it was gorgeous. I mean, it it was just poetry emotion.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:50

Okay, so nobody's gonna be interested in this but me. How they're teaching the kids now, it's all about launch angle.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:56

I don't I never talk to kids about launch angle. I talk about getting on plane early and staying on plane. You know, you wanna you wanna you wanna get on plane early, stay on plane, you know, as far as you can out that way, right? Without casting your hands or anything like that. If you can stay on plane for as long as possible, you're gonna have success as a hitter, right?

SPEAKER_14 1:11:15

The launch angle, man, I hate it, but I hate it because it's like basketball, it's three pointers or layups, baseball is now home runs or strikeouts.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:23

Some kids, some kids you can teach like that. Some kids will understand that, right? Um that you start talking about launch angle, you explain to them what launch angle is, and they will understand. They're like, oh most kids will not, right? So you have to teach them the correct way to do it. You know, get on plane early, stay on plane late, you know. You know, you still do this, by the way? Uh not so much anymore. I don't got time, man. When I first blew up online, I you know, I I had I was part owner of a baseball and softball training facility, and uh and now when I blew up online, I was like, I don't have time for this anymore. And uh there was a lot of upset people, you know. I think what about your kids?

SPEAKER_14 1:12:03

Uh any coaching or anything with the app?

SPEAKER_07 1:12:05

Yeah, I coach, I coach little league baseball every year, but you know, I you know, uh anything other than that, and I probably won't, you know, maybe one day when I'm a little bit older, you know, I'll try to go coach high school or something, but not right now, I ain't got time for it. And I don't want to do something and half-ass it. You know, I'm not I'm not a half-assing kind of guy, right? If we if we're gonna do it, we're gonna do it. And if if if I'm just gonna halfway do it, I'm just not gonna bother.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:29

So well, you're a lot more intelligent than I thought you were.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:33

I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:33

Is this the longest we've sat and talked? It's the longest.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:36

Well, you can't say that because that's the same.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:37

Well, you never sit still when we're ever together. You're right, you're right. You're filming something. Running here, running there, telling them we're stand right there. You stand. Yeah. Your knowledge of uh I've learned a lot about Nunly tonight.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:48

Well, I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:49

And and I don't respect you any more than I did. But you are hopefully that's a good thing, right?

SPEAKER_15 1:12:55

Uh all the facts that you have after when you're when you're turning it and you say, Oh now you know, is is every is all of that accurate.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:05

I try to fact-check everything. Yeah, now there's sometimes that I will I will leave little key bits of information out, right? And I do that for a reason. I've always done it for a reason. I will give you just enough of a of a of a fact to where it will make you fly. Why why is that that way? Go do your own research. I I think I think you know, with with the way things are today, it is important to go do your own research on things and not just listen to some idiot on the internet tell you. Right? Because something may be taken completely out of context or something may be completely false and made up, something may be AI generated. Go do your own research. You know, don't just believe everything you hear, but you know, sometimes I will, you know, I'll I I won't screw the fact up, and I have screwed a couple facts up. But sometimes I'll leave little key pieces of information out to where it doesn't fully explain why that's a fact. You know, it's like, you know, listen, did you know that you know 70% of all trees fallen by beavers will fall towards the water? You know, and why? Who the hell knows that? Who's keeping track of that?

SPEAKER_15 1:14:06

You know, and then like uh you said that the the army has more boats than the navy.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:10

Yeah, which is wild, and not more ships.

Bills Mafia, Snow Games, and Fatherhood

SPEAKER_15 1:14:12

Hold on, yeah, not ships. And the reason I asked the question is everything true is because I thought, well, heck, I'm just gonna come here and listen to you and get smarter. Because you had a lot of a lot of random things that were like Cliff Claven. Yeah. Right, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, cheers. Cheers. You don't need the postman. Oh, really? Cheers? He's the postman. Postman, I'll cheers. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:30

Cliff Claven, he's yeah, he's always like a little known fact. My parents would watch that show. I was like, this is such a stupid show, and as I've gotten older, yeah. You know, I will catch myself, you know, if if it's on, you know, TV land or something, I'd be like, hey, it looks like a pretty interesting show. MASH, I love MASH. I hated it when I was young. I love MASH.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:48

They don't make TV like that no more.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:50

No, Duke's a hazard, man. Hey, I thought I was a Duke boy. I I own a General Lee now. That's when you know you made it as White Trash.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:58

You buy yourself a General Lee, you made it. And your podcast is called What?

SPEAKER_07 1:15:02

White Trash with Money.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:04

So I'm I'm coming on there soon. Yeah, you're coming on the show. Can we change the name briefly? White thrash with money.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:12

We can because it works out of the yeah. I will introduce it as white thrash with money. Yes, yeah. There you go. That's my episode. I like it. That's actually a pretty good idea. I like it. We'll change it for one episode. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 1:15:23

I like the way you said actually, that's actually a good idea, as he wasn't expecting a good idea.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:29

He wasn't. It's actually it really is a dope idea. I like it. That's funny. Well thrash with money. Hey, I'll do anything as long as you push it out and get it to as many people as you can. Hey, I'll make it. That's your job.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:40

No, well, you're supposed to make us rich. We're not we're not helping you. You're helping us.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:44

I'm already rich. Well, I'm still trying to climb. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:48

Let's help each other.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:49

We can help each other. Can we do that? We'll hold hands to skip together. All right. Yeah, yeah, we can do that.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:54

Take us out, Kurt.

SPEAKER_15 1:15:56

Hey, first, could I get you to do uh just a little piece of and the reason I say this is because I've got it, got a little uh little baby, 19 month old, me and my wife Rachel, and every morning on the way to daycare and listening to all these songs. So people say, Hey, what are you listening to lately? Well, Sam listening to Jesus Loves Me and you know and a little shark song and things like that. And I was looking you up today, and that they had that story about the about the cocaine in the water and everything, and the sharks were were oh yeah, and you did the little can you do that little cocaine cocaine shark did do to do to do, cocaine shark did do to do to do, cocaine shark did do to do, cocaine shark.

unknown 1:16:32

Really?

SPEAKER_15 1:16:32

But it's a kid's yeah, it's a it's uh but but usually it'll say you know. You're teaching your kid that no, but it comes no but it comes off of the song. But it comes off the song and say baby, baby shark doo do do, and then it'll go mama shark d do it'll go like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:48

But it was a news story that that some cocaine had fallen off the cartel's boats and sharks were eating it. Can you imagine sharks hopped up on cocaine?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:57

Oh my god, imagine a great white on cocaine, bro, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:01

I mean, it's like uh the cocaine bear movie, right? Yeah, cocaine bear. That was a classic movie must have seen it. It was pretty good at sharks. It was pretty good.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:11

Yeah, it's actually a good movie. Cocaine Bear, check it out. It's pretty good. Check it out.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:15

He was mad. I love them. Oh my god. Dude, we know you're busy. Dude, what, four or five podcasts a day, content all the time. He took the time with the most really appreciate. Absolutely. Thank you all.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:30

I'm glad our paths crossed. I mean too, man. I appreciate having you as a friend. I talk about you quite often. I'm like, you know, Neil Thrasher, and people just automatically know we know each other's what's wild. What? You know, yeah. I don't know. People would be paying attention, man. They're like, you know that old racist guy, Neil Thrasher?

unknown 1:17:47

Oh yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:48

Oh yeah, no, yeah. Oh yeah, you're a thrash.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:50

I told him, try that in a small town. You know, I've got a I've got a buddy that he he he always just texts random, you know, sayings and stuff, right? And I've always thought it was funny that he would just just out of the blue, he'd be like, try that in a small town. You know? It's funny.

SPEAKER_15 1:18:07

That's good. I love it. We love him. And thanks for bringing your buddy together. Thanks for having me in. Yeah, yeah. Y'all need to have him on stage. Yeah, this dude right here. Uh both of you. So we checked him out. Glad to beat both of you and thanks for coming.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:19

In case you didn't already know, Nick Dylan Weldon sitting here next to me, the the man in the pearl snaps.

SPEAKER_15 1:18:25

Oh, yeah. He reps those nicely. Yeah, he's got one undone.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:29

I mean, he's got oh Lord. You got a wide beater under the mate pregnant.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:34

Neil's daughter's here, man. She's she's married, she's married. Yeah. That ain't never stopped dealing welding before. Thank you, Justin.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:51

Appreciate you, brother. Thanks for making it. That's not I'm I I'm really sad that I really thought that. I'm like, well, that is so cool, then they adopted a special needs Chinese.

SPEAKER_14 1:19:01

By the way, we're on, so maybe you should tell people what what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:05

Yeah. I didn't prep. I'm sorry. It's my fault. It's on me. Yeah, it's on you. Go ahead and tell no one.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:11

Well, I don't know who who he was bringing, and so the whole episode, I'm looking at the couch, and there's like a a really nice woman and a Chinese boy.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:23

You thought Carissa was his wife and his wife.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:25

Yeah, I thought I thought. Which is uh that's not me on a special. That's legit. Yeah, that's not no prep. I thought that was his wife, and the whole time I'm thinking, and he's so entertaining and funny, I'm laughing, but I'm looking at the couch and thinking, wow, that is so awesome that they adopted a little Chinese boy. I'm like, that is amazing. And he's taking pictures. He's got braces on. I'm thinking. I'm like, this is so they've taken him under their wing, and this is amazing. Like, what a great guy. And I realized after the episode, he's like, he's like his editor. Maybe it's famous, maybe it's both. Maybe I'm thinking they adopted this went over and got a Chinese boy, and I'm like, wow, this is really bigger than, you know, this is tough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 1:20:10

Oh, yeller. Yeah, I didn't that that didn't cross my mind. I'm so sorry. I think his name was Andy. I don't get to the He has a name, Tully.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:21

Anyway, Chinese boy. Numley, I'm sorry if if I look like a deer in the headlights for most of them. I was just really impressed that you guys adopted a young Chinese boy, which is not that um rare.

SPEAKER_14 1:20:33

Well, and it's smart because then you can have him do your editing as well. True. Yeah. True. Family business.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:40

That is a legit great idea. Thank you, Kurt. Always thinking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:44

Nelly's gonna pee his pants when he hears.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:46

Well, yeah, he's gonna hate me forever, but No, he's not. I was like, wow, what great. No. What great people they are. Yeah. Oh my god. Am I the only one that thought that?

Women Refs Debate: Respect and Merit

SPEAKER_15 1:20:59

I didn't think. Well, I already knew that they were. What did you think? I thought he worked for him. I didn't please. I didn't I have no reason to believe anything else. Of course, of course you didn't.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:10

Ian Carissa flew over to South Korea and adopted him. Oh my gosh. That's what I thought.

SPEAKER_15 1:21:16

Yeah, but he thought he was a Chinese boy.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:19

Same thing, right?

SPEAKER_15 1:21:20

Oh boy. Okay, yeah, we get him. That's not gonna fly.

SPEAKER_12 1:21:28

That's fun. That's less fun.

SPEAKER_15 1:21:31

Why is making your podcast grow so hard? What are we doing?

SPEAKER_14 1:21:38

We're checking all the boxes. We're getting unfollowed by the minute. No. Yeah, we may lose some of that.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:44

They're gonna love us.

SPEAKER_14 1:21:45

Back to you, Kurt. Our sponsors love us, though, don't they? They do, and we love them. Yeah, we love Patriot Mobile. They used to love us. Hey, throw me one of those hats, Jim. Because Patriot Mobile. We love our people at Patriot Mobile. Oh my gosh. We got some ball and hats here. Oh, those are nice. Um Patriot Mobile to some good people. It's great service as well. Look at that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:08

I I see a lot of birdies in that hat.

SPEAKER_14 1:22:10

ESpaces we love, but there's one little thing, Neil. What are you talking about, C? I don't know. I'm right. Armpit showing sweat marks. No? We need some air conditioning. Sorry. No, we will. We'll get it.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:24

I think we I think we have AC. It's just not making it to the room. It's cool in the hallway. Man, what a plug for these things. We love that. I mean, it's an amazing spot, though. Yeah. You can cut that, Jim. Yeah, you can cut that right out. Original glory.

SPEAKER_14 1:22:40

Of course we love original glory. Nothing.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:44

Nothing better than a nice flat beer and a hot podcast day. We might just start over.

SPEAKER_14 1:22:52

Well, Jim, you're gonna have to cut everything. You might even cut the Asian kid out. No, I'll cut the Asian kid.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:00

That wasn't even my fucking true thought. I if my true thought was he's retarded.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:06

Okay, let's finish this, but oh my god.

SPEAKER_15 1:23:07

Yeah, let's open there.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:09

We definitely gotta thank eSpaces. We gotta thank Original Glory.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:12

eSpaces.com.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:14

Oh yeah, eSpaces.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:17

Everybody always remarks on that. They do. They're like, I like it. It's a great voice. Well, it's my broadcast voice. It's pretty, it's pretty, it's out there. It's good. Oh, it's out there.

SPEAKER_15 1:23:25

I need to work on it. Catches the attention, you know.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:29

Uh if you're by the way, Ed comments a lot. We love Ed. Nobody else really comments. We need some comments on YouTube. Step up, let us know what you think, even if you didn't like it. Or Ed, start recruiting better.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:40

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:40

I want to hear that. I want to hear more hate. I want to see more hate mail.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:44

Well, we'll probably get it this episode. I want to see a lot more hate mail.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:47

Uh, but seriously, leave us a review, leave us some comments, download the episode, do all the things. What am I missing?

SPEAKER_10 1:23:55

I don't know. It sounds pretty good. Patriot Mobile, Eastern.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:59

Original Glory. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:02

I mean, you covered it, Checks Mix, and just thanking Justin.

SPEAKER_15 1:24:07

Um, it was amazing. That did really funny what he's gone. Yeah, hard work. With his career and retirement military.

SPEAKER_13 1:24:15

And you don't realize, like, doing that stuff like the four or five posts a day and the podcast, like, it's mentally, it is. I'm exhausted doing this one. It's exhausting. Oh man. Yeah. To have to do it and then you have your little boy edit it. It's tough.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:31

That's not that's that's not hey, that's not his kid. Did you really think?

SPEAKER_13 1:24:36

I don't think I swear to God. You thought that was I'm so sorry, and I'm surprised I'm the only one. I know that you didn't know, but I'm surprised that the other two friends. Jim, what did you don't drag Jim into this?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:48

I thought he worked for it. No. No, he didn't. There's no way. I want to I want to let Nelly know that Tully actually believed that Carissa was your wife and y'all adopted an Asian boy with braces. And I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_15 1:25:05

He honestly thought that I think the braces came after the adoption.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:09

Yeah. But I will say I honestly, I honestly, I honestly thought that was the situation, and I was so surprised when he mentioned that he was the editor. I was like, well, I missed that. Anyway. He did. He did.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:22

Nolan's gonna pee his pants when he hears this. We appreciate you guys for listening. Thanks for enduring through that. We even though we are raised upright, even though the things we've said. All right, this is a try that a small town podcast. We'll see you soon.