Try That in a Small Town Podcast
In 2023, Jason Aldean's groundbreaking song and video "Try That In A Small Town" resonated with a resurgence of conservative values in America. The writers of the song, Kurt, Neil, Tully, and Kelley, took the opportunity to launch the Try That In A Small Town Podcast. This platform allows them to reveal the true inspiration behind the song and discuss the importance of common-sense values. With a lineup of influential guests, the hosts will entertain you with the stories behind their music, while also addressing challenging topics affecting our communities and country.
Try That in a Small Town Podcast
From Broadway To AI: Music, Media, And Common Sense :: Ep 86 Try That in a Small Town Podcast
A joke about turning our show into a musical opens the door to a night of sharp turns: Broadway memories, Nashville headlines, and a candid look at what AI is doing to songwriting. We talk about that viral “AI artist” with a digital sales hit, why serviceable lyrics still miss the magic of a great hook, and whether writers should be paid when models train on decades of human work. The debate isn’t doom and gloom—it’s a working songwriter’s blueprint for keeping creativity human and credit fair.
From there, we zoom out to culture: phones in every pocket, social feeds that reward outrage, and how parents can steer the algorithm instead of being steered by it. Then we address the feedback that we’re anti-women. We draw some hard lines—what’s fair in elite sports, when representation feels forced, where expertise and safety matter—and ask our female listeners to weigh in so we can feature your takes on the next show. Respect and candor can live in the same room, and we’re keeping the door open.
We also announce a new project we’re excited about: a weekly spotlight on small-town hero stories from across the country. Send us the real stuff—rescue, generosity, quiet acts of grit—and we’ll share them, then honor the most impactful story at year’s end. We wrap with college football chaos, conference title games that feel like injury traps, and a challenge we’ll put on camera this spring: who can still drill a field goal when it counts.
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So one of the writers of Try That in Small Town watched Hamilton on Broadway.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:Interesting.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:The problem with that? It's just an interesting interesting fact. Temptation's been around forever. Of course. Since the beginning of time.
SPEAKER_09:It it is an interesting point. Because like in the whatever, when TV came out, they were like, that's the devil. TV is the worst thing for you. And this is a bigger, worse thing, but it's just another thing in the cycle of the city. I agree with that, but you couldn't put your TV in your pocket.
SPEAKER_10:I was informed today that that we have uh quite a few people, I don't know the exact number, that feel like that we do not like women and we talk about them in a derogatory way.
SPEAKER_01:The Try That in a Small Town Podcast begins now.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, we did start. This is the Try That in a Small Town Podcast, yeah. There's always some fun stuff pre-roll. Or maybe it's actually during the role, but um Neil playing something. I don't know what is that. Like me personally? Or I don't know. I like it. We got Thrash over there with the beer, we got KL, we got TK. I'm Kurt. Is that original or is it? Yeah, I just made it up. Seems original.
SPEAKER_08:I write songs.
SPEAKER_10:I bet AI could tear that a new one.
SPEAKER_08:Oh.
SPEAKER_10:That would sound so good. Yeah. Slow it down.
SPEAKER_08:What do y'all want to talk about today? You got anything, Kallo?
SPEAKER_10:Uh yeah. Yeah, there's a lot, actually.
SPEAKER_09:Uh we could sing the whole show tonight. Like a musical. The musical.
SPEAKER_10:A long time ago, we did a writer's thing.
SPEAKER_08:Did a writer's thing in uh overseas.
SPEAKER_10:Oh. Like BBC and all that with Paisley.
SPEAKER_08:Paisley.
SPEAKER_10:And we were doing a writer's round, and Chris Dubois was there in the round who doesn't play or sing. So when it got to his turn, he Brad was playing, and Chris was reciting the lyrics, and it was hysterical. It was really funny. But that's not what I was going to talk about. But I didn't know we're going to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_08:I'll just be back here, just whatever y'all say, I'll sing. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty good, right? That's a pretty good bet. I think it'd be entertaining. That's a good bit.
SPEAKER_10:Could be. It may take a little while to get sentences out, but it's hard to think. But it could be good.
SPEAKER_08:We'll try that sometime. I think it'd be very entertaining for our listeners.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, okay. Well, we just tried it. Let's see what they say.
SPEAKER_08:Let's see what they say.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:The musical. Yes. Opening a teapac. Yes. Who would be the star of that musical? Who's one of those people?
SPEAKER_08:Oh, that's a good question. Who would be the star? And I tried that in a small town musical. Oh.
SPEAKER_10:Owen Wilson.
SPEAKER_05:No, um, does it name? He would be.
SPEAKER_10:I'm just throwing it out.
SPEAKER_05:What's the guy like so much the guy play uh Hugh Jackman? Oh, Hugh Jackman. I like that dude. Pretty good.
SPEAKER_10:I don't know if the accent would work as good in the in the small town thing.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, he can have whatever accent he wants. He's a I guess he could.
SPEAKER_10:He's a trained actor. That's true.
SPEAKER_08:That would actually make the music. The song would actually make a really, really good musical.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_05:We could have you you can be in it too in the ensemble as one of the angry small town people.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah. I mean on Broadway. If they did it on Broadway, they could actually do a real Oh man. Sucker punch somebody on the sidewalk.
SPEAKER_05:Like I tell you what, I love I love um seeing shows on Broadway. Saw uh MJ the musical up there. Yeah. I've never been. Blow your mind. I mean, it actually is I saw Hamilton up there, which was which was really good, but like MJ the musical was really that I mean it was almost like you were seeing Michael Jackson. It was it was pretty pretty impressive.
SPEAKER_10:So one of the writers of Traveling Small Town watched Hamilton on Broadway.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:Interesting.
SPEAKER_05:It's just an interesting interesting fact. Oh, I get it. Interesting fact. My son does theater, I love it. It's funny. So it's good. It's a tense opening. It's a d that that seems weird.
SPEAKER_08:No, I'm weird.
SPEAKER_10:Just a comment. You know.
SPEAKER_05:You don't like a thing like Broadway?
SPEAKER_10:Oh, I don't dislike it. I've just not I've never seen anything there.
SPEAKER_05:I'm sure it'd be great. I tell you what, if you want to, I mean, it the talent it's crazy. The singing, the the acting, it's it's really good.
SPEAKER_10:I saw uh a wicked here in Nashville. It's really cool.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Anyway. Not like Broadway, but it's still cool.
SPEAKER_10:You know, a lot of talent.
SPEAKER_05:Off to a rocky start.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:I think it was fantastic.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I'm not sure why. Why was that interesting? It's not our sort of stuff. No, it's just it's just random.
SPEAKER_08:This is just everything. Because it was like one of the writers from Tri Latin Small Town, a small town song. It's a you know, it's yeah, big city, New York City plays and stuff like that. It's just like night and day. I get I get it. I get what he's saying. He didn't mean any fence but one of these things doesn't belong here.
SPEAKER_10:You know, that was just one of those categories.
SPEAKER_05:Well, maybe to me, I it's perfectly feels good.
SPEAKER_10:Not saying it's wrong. I just thought it was interesting.
SPEAKER_05:I appreciate uh amazing talent.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:A lot of it.
SPEAKER_10:I do too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:All right, let's get to something. Let's get to something. Who's got somewhere to take us?
SPEAKER_10:Are you breaking the dice? I mean you you Well, where are you gonna take us? Take us in there. You know what? Let's just uh you know, and maybe some of the tension is coming from I mean it's been it's been it's been quite the year. It has you know what it has been quite the year. There's been a lot of things that have happened. Um we had a couple assassination attempts the president, you know. Uh lost Charlie Kirk, you're getting people you know hurt on buses and trains and stuff like that. We've lost some really close friends, you know. And then I don't know if you saw this today, but to top it all off, Maddie and Tay broke up.
SPEAKER_06:I saw that. Dude, great poll. Because I was like, good setup. Good setup. I mean Klo.
SPEAKER_05:Instant that instantly and which one's Matty. I still don't know. I'm gonna go by Maddie, the one on the left, and Tay uh Maddie and Tay. Just because after so many unanswered questions. I hope the reunion tour doesn't happen too quick. What is a Maddie and Tay song?
SPEAKER_10:I don't think it will.
SPEAKER_05:Good question. I don't know. And no one's gonna be.
SPEAKER_10:Well, they had that one uh about the about the anti-broke the Bro Country. That was their first number one. It was a good bit of go. They had a number one? Yeah, they did. They and they wrote it. Um they had a number one. They did, yeah. They had they actually had more than that. It was a girl in the country song. Right? So um which was that one was great. And they had also uh Die from a broken heart. Um so they've had some they've definitely had some stuff out. Okay, you know, well you stand corrected.
SPEAKER_06:Right right to my dual category. Like radio. I thought about that.
SPEAKER_08:Was it radio number one song?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_08:It's not like the rolling under grandma. I don't know what a single is or number one is. Number one in Australia.
SPEAKER_09:It's actually a fair question.
SPEAKER_10:No, but I I do I do remember that song and uh it did it did good. I liked it, you know?
SPEAKER_09:And uh but they broke up, so did they even they're they have a press release?
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, it's uh it's everywhere. And uh so but they're they're not really calling a a breakup, but I mean uh I don't think there's anything wrong with them. I just think that that one just wanted to spend more time at home. So it's not a thing of it. So is one of them solo? Yes. Yes. But now we're getting somewhere. That's a whole different thing. So preach on that.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, spend more time at home but they've been touring. Well, no, I mean just like kids.
SPEAKER_10:I've been burning up the world tour. No, but kids family, but that's what they do. I mean, they've they've actually had time at home. They've actually done they've actually done pretty good.
SPEAKER_05:You know, it's gonna be a time at home, it isn't it. I mean, they're gonna shut down the buses and the trucks and the what are they gonna do with all the gear?
SPEAKER_06:Now this close to the holidays, I feel you're being a little harsh. It's down so bad coming from you. You know what? It's down really. I think I think again might take some heat from this.
SPEAKER_05:It is well you got me, I'll I know it.
SPEAKER_06:Look. Enough's enough.
SPEAKER_09:I think just spend more time at home.
SPEAKER_06:Enough of time. Enough of what is enough.
SPEAKER_05:Enough of the pretending tour. Look. Oops. Come on, Neil. I can't think with with the closer to the mic. You spend more time at home. I just uh they're not touring and and it's fine. They're they're splitting up because it's it's it's long overdue. I hate hate to say it.
SPEAKER_09:That's fair.
SPEAKER_05:Well to Maddie and Tay.
SPEAKER_08:Hey well, Matt, hey, it leaves a slot open for duo of the year.
SPEAKER_05:Well that that says something. If if you're duo in country music and you and you can't get noticed, and rough.
SPEAKER_10:Well, but they were in the you know, they were nominated for years. I mean like that's the Tully's point.
SPEAKER_09:If you're a duo, you get nominated.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah. And I think uh Maddie is gonna plans on going on to be a solo artist. Okay. Um and then uh Tay is gonna just stay at home, raise kids, and you know, be a wife, reassess and stuff, and just spend more time with family. That's what I've that's what I've read anyway. Okay. And um, yeah.
SPEAKER_09:Okay, big news coming out of Nashville.
SPEAKER_05:I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_06:I'm not I'm not making light of the breakup, but it's you know, sorry, I gave him a really sorry I gave him a hanging cord too. Yeah, it's it's hard to Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:I I just can't Well it's like the artist that says I asked out of my deal. Yeah, we we said that. Yeah. When yeah, the deal when it wasn't working. We had to ask out of our deal.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you know, it was it was time to ask out. I mean, that's what you say. I mean I've been there.
SPEAKER_08:Hey, yeah, I was the low on the totem pole duo.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, yeah, you asked out of your deal, right?
SPEAKER_08:I mean we got nominated every year because there wasn't anybody in there.
SPEAKER_10:I voted for you.
SPEAKER_08:Thanks.
SPEAKER_10:You're welcome.
SPEAKER_08:I got some old Thrasher Shiver t-shirts only. It reminded me of the years you got that early that time period, right? Oh, we came out in '95. 95.
SPEAKER_10:What's it? Asylum records. Asylum records. Yeah. I remember pitching songs to you guys. Yep. Really?
SPEAKER_02:Pass, pass, pass, pass.
SPEAKER_10:But the songs they were recording were great. It was better than what I was writing. I know that.
SPEAKER_08:But here I am. Because of it. Got a podcast. Because of it. Look at you. Got a podcast.
SPEAKER_10:Look at you. My new beard. Yeah, yeah. Coming in nice. Still looking good. Yeah. All right. It's looking great. You're growing yours back out.
SPEAKER_09:Well, I just I didn't have time to say I'm not really growing it out, but um, we got so many, or you got so many compliments on your leading of the CMA review show. I know. It was really, really good. So good. It was I know Ed loved it. And we love Ed. And we do love Ed. So kind of guide us along here. But you got something, I mean, your your opener was Weller, but I don't know if you can get it.
SPEAKER_10:All right. So I mean, and I'll say to close off on Maddie and Ted. So first off, just to say, Okay. I played a couple benefits then, like St. Jude and everything, and they're they are really good. They sent they seem to be a good thing. They're they're great girls. They're great. They got a good apartment. I know. Good for them. They had a they had a female duo. They they rocked it for a while, had it had a hit or two, and they did they did good, you know.
SPEAKER_09:So is there okay back to talking? Is there a need for the press release? Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:Well, I mean, I think it's just something that people run with. I mean, I don't know. I think it's just it was the story of the day and breaking news. But it is everywhere. I mean, some people, it's it's it's all over the place. I can't. I mean, it's not like it's everywhere.
SPEAKER_09:Because they're setting up Maddie's solo career. It's a press release because they're trying to create interest. What's Maddie's last name? That's easy. No one knows. It's not Ted.
SPEAKER_08:It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's calling it Ernest. I think it's font. That's what she should do. Maddie font.
SPEAKER_06:Just go with Maddie.
SPEAKER_10:Just go with Maddie. But Matt Maddie would be cool. That'd be cool. It'd be definitely uh difficult if you do the you know the percentages on duos that have broke up and that one or two of them do well as an individual artist. That's a tough pull. I mean, it would be it usually doesn't happen.
SPEAKER_05:But maybe they can start a podcast. Make up for all that money they lost.
SPEAKER_10:Or they could come on this podcast and really go in depth.
SPEAKER_05:I don't think they're come on now after my not what I said.
SPEAKER_10:Well maybe that's a night you're sick, you know, and they they fill in as a as a guest host. In my stead? Yeah. I mean, if you know, if we really needed them to drive our numbers, you know.
SPEAKER_06:See, you're being mean. No, I'm not. I'm not.
SPEAKER_05:I'm not gonna say like wait a minute. It's because you can't take it seriously. You can't. Sorry, Maddie and Tay broke up. I didn't even think about Maddie and Tay until I saw the press release, and maybe that's the point. That is the point.
SPEAKER_10:Well, I'll tell you what you can take seriously. Is that that guy uh that new act that break was Breaking Rust? Is that the dude? Jim Belly. I mean, you're seeing that one.
SPEAKER_05:It's AI AI artist.
SPEAKER_10:Oh, yeah, AI, yeah. Yeah, so we we didn't really talk about that uh last time, and I just I listened to it today.
SPEAKER_09:And uh Is this a song that was number one? Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_10:Walk my walk, I think it is. And uh yeah, it was number one on the on the digital digital sales, you know.
SPEAKER_07:It's not nothing.
SPEAKER_10:But uh but yeah, that's uh so we could talk about that for a minute if you want.
SPEAKER_09:We have the do you know the backstory of what that is, who created it?
SPEAKER_10:I don't know who who created it because I I really wanted to look at the uh go ahead.
SPEAKER_08:No, no, I don't know the name because it's a foreign dude and I don't know. Oh it is? Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, so I don't know, but I I thought, you know what, I want to listen to that and look at the lyric and everything and see see how good it is. And when you look at it and you read it, it's no different than what we would do if we had that idea and we were writing. I mean, it's not not that bad. I mean it's pretty good. You know, which is kind of scary, it's a whole different thing, you know.
SPEAKER_05:But um we were just talking about this today, again, on the AI thing. It's like it's I mean, Kurt were tracking the producing some stuff this morning, and it was like w our way of doing things is is uh is threatened right now. You know, and and it's kind of sad to think about it, you know, but it it it um they create a process. You know, the creative process to me is not just um put putting stuff into Suno or using that stuff to me. It's AI. Now we have AI artists actually selling it's it's kinda we should all be a little concerned or a lot concerned.
SPEAKER_08:And you know about it, it's it's already to me, it's already old news. It already is. As quick as it came, it's here, and people are tired of it, and it's like well I don't know if we're tired of it. No, we're gonna keep we're gonna keep we're gonna keep doing what we do, regardless of AI or not. We're gonna keep writing songs the way we do. And it'll be us against the machine.
SPEAKER_05:I will say this though, I have yet to hear and and it is gonna be us against the machine. We've heard this is interesting, and I think this is where we have an upper hand. Um heard a few AI songs recently. And one thing AI can't do is really drive a lyric home to a hook and nail it. It just falls out.
SPEAKER_10:You mean like they're are they pitching them to you guys for calling, for you guys to record? Is that what is that where you're hearing them?
SPEAKER_05:Everybody everybody's gonna have to be able to do that. And they and you can tell right away because it just the hook just falls out. There's it can't it can't write great. It can't write a great song. I think it can place words together and they rhyme and but you you still have to write the song. Um at least that's what I'm in. At least I agree, you know. I agree.
SPEAKER_09:And when I hear your the uh AI demo, you know, because it only can do what it's heard or been. Yeah, I go, oh, that sounds like this. Oh, that sounds like this. Yeah, yeah. That's always my go-to. And then the other thought is you know, when you're in a musical rut, let's say, country music, and then Gretchen Wilson comes out and you go, Oh my god, where did that come from? You'll never get that with AI. Or when Chris Stablin came out of nowhere, or when whatever, it these new artists that break because it's a different sound, that's not gonna come from AI, I don't think. It's gonna come from people that are actually creative and let's do something new.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah. That's just my I it would be cool to have, and we've mentioned it before, we need to get Bart Herberson, you know, head of NSAID on here. Anyway, but I would like to, because we've kind of talked about this before off the show. Like AI is taking from all the things that commercial songwriters have have written and you know, created before, and it's pulling from all those things. So there should be a way that all the songwriters who have ever earned income at all should participate in anything like that because you pulled from all of the writers. You know, I know it'd be a very complicated thing, but it's no different than than a lawsuit that gets settled with with you know some some streaming organization or something, and then that that lawsuit will be broken out and you will get extra bumps in your ASCAP, CSAC, or BMI checks, you know, that give you some of that. I think the AI thing shouldn't be any different. I think you should participate. I think anybody who makes a living creating, you should participate because they're pulling from.
SPEAKER_09:I don't know exactly how they do that, but I And maybe they are, maybe that's that's already happening.
SPEAKER_10:Right.
SPEAKER_09:Well, I know it's trying to happen.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:Um yeah, I just don't know how they do it. I don't know how they can do it.
SPEAKER_10:I will say though, that guy, even though I know he's not real. Uh is there a curious he's good looking. Yeah, he's I get it. What does he look like? Uh I like he looks like a rustic cow.
SPEAKER_08:He looks like God makes however they want him to look. Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah. They just put in, you put in a little paragraph of exactly what you want him to look like, cross him between, you know, Clint Eastwood and some other people. I don't know. Is that the way the world's going though?
SPEAKER_08:I told y'all this. I told y'all this before. It's the first time that I saw a DJ sell out Bridgestone, he's it's just a light show with a guy up there in black light doing this, and they sold out Bridgestone. I knew we were in trouble. There's no real I mean, he's just spinning music and it's all digital, and it's yeah, he ain't playing a thing. He's just up there and everybody's there to party. I knew we were in trouble. Bridgestone. It was a whole concert, light show atmosphere, and the whole they didn't have to have a band really playing music up there. Did not have to have it.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08:That's when I got worried.
SPEAKER_10:Well, and I heard something uh actually from the last time when we drove home from the last time we taped the show. Uh, and this is a real thing. And it blew my mind. You guys may have heard about it already, but there's now they're opening up uh cafes or restaurants, uh, one or two here or there, that you can they've got iPads set up and you can be there and have dinner with your AI date. And there's a guy, actually, outside of the restaurants, but he was it was a it was just a seemingly regular guy that was talking about he proposed to his AI girlfriend, and she's cheaper, and she said she said yes, and he talked about it, he goes, and he goes, and and and trust me, he goes, I'm not a I'm not a crier. He goes, but I processed what she said and and to me and the way that she said it, and I sat there at work and cried for 30 minutes. And he said, that must be real love, right? And I'm like, oh my God.
SPEAKER_09:I mean that's so that's uh it's interesting that's where you went with it because uh I I was kind of thinking this. It's it's a weird way that some of the world is going, and guys with the robot girlfriends AI thing, and it's like I know it sounds futuristic, but it's it's serious, it's happening. Let's go.
SPEAKER_05:What is happening? It's happening. What are we talking about?
SPEAKER_10:20 grand, you can you can you can get a robot sent to your house and you gotta train it and everything. You know, but but it'll be there for you as soon as you walk in the door, you know, it it'll take your leather jacket.
SPEAKER_06:Throw it over.
SPEAKER_10:Throw it over. Yeah. Remember Rocky Four? And and it'll say it'll say evening TK, how was your day? And you say, not bad. She says excellent.
SPEAKER_05:What's the end game there?
SPEAKER_10:I don't know.
SPEAKER_09:The end game is it's uh uh exactly what you want.
SPEAKER_08:No hassle, no talk, someone that just placates no emotion.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, they can they can fake emotion. It's like an app. The emotion app.
SPEAKER_08:It's it's artificial emotion. Yeah. But it's emotion.
SPEAKER_05:Wow, it's really dark. Yeah. Well I might need a drink.
SPEAKER_06:This is this is taking a turn.
SPEAKER_10:We had well, I think the Christmas tree is blocking the bar. You still have a bar back there.
SPEAKER_08:I think it started when they let a male jump in the water and swim against the girls. That's when all that's when all the insanity started. As soon as they jumped in the water and they and they competed, it was over. They should have blackballed him right then and there. Interesting. Yeah, I mean they could have stopped it right there, but they let they let him swim and they competed against him, and it was too late at that point. That's when the insanity started. Cat was out of the bag.
SPEAKER_05:Yes. Let me ask you this question to that point. The insanity. What was that start date? For you, it's that. It feel it felt like I know I'm not alone, I don't think. But it felt like before COVID we were okay.
SPEAKER_09:COVID might have been the start of the insanity.
SPEAKER_05:COVID started the insanity. Like everything went to shit. And it's net and it's just gotten worse. Like I feel like before COVID, I don't remember. Yeah, when did they? I feel like it's cov I feel like COVID, every everybody went fucking crazy. Maybe that's what they wanted. I mean, I don't know, but of course. But I remember they made billions off of the insanity. They loved it. But is that shit's gotten weird since COVID. It's just gotten bizarre. Like, like we're you're talking about dudes swimming against girls and we're coming like robots. Coming on the robots.
SPEAKER_08:I'm like I'm telling you, man. All of it could have been stopped on the platform.
SPEAKER_07:Could have been stopped.
SPEAKER_08:But nope. As soon as you let 'em give it an inch. I love all the puns that were coming up with the dude swimming. Black ball. I know. Give him an inch. Give him an inch.
SPEAKER_06:It's very unreal. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, seriously though, now you you talk about that, but we got dudes, you know, going to girls' bathrooms. And worse than that, we have people saying that's okay. I know it. Fighting for it. That's what gets me the the most, is like uh, okay. Then you obviously don't have kids. If you do, you no way you could be good with that. No. So Well, there should be at least an age limit.
SPEAKER_08:To what? Look at the faces. So you're I was kidding. That was a joke. Oh. It was a joke. You gotta be 18 or older before you can go into it. You got it. I got it. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Good one.
SPEAKER_06:Like that.
SPEAKER_08:I was kidding. Kalo Will Chicago.
SPEAKER_09:Amazing BB's gonna heal me. To uh brighten this conversation.
SPEAKER_05:No, it's a yeah, there is the real talk. We always get this way during Christmas. Well, we always get we always do our own. Bring out the darkest parts of us. And I think there's a reason. Why? What is it? Because Kalo touched on it. It's been a long year. And every year is a long year. And and we just it just you start talking about it, you're like, wait, that can't be true. What are we talking about? Every year it gets more crazy. Last year we're talking about dudes in the pool. This year we're talking about fake artists, the top of iTunes. And that's why it's our the dark season for us is a holiday season as the podcast. Call it the dark season. Well, I mean I mean it's just a lot to take. It's a lot. And on top of that, personal lives, things happen. Yeah. Yeah. And that's on top of just the bullshit that you're forced to deal with on a regular basis just existing.
SPEAKER_08:I'm just glad I'm on I'm so thankful I'm on this side of it. And we get we have the opportunity to talk about the insanity that I'm not part of the insanity. I'm so thankful that I'm not on that side. You know what I'm saying? Or raised raised up that way. That's right.
SPEAKER_10:Like you're raised up to the right. Raised up right?
SPEAKER_05:That's a good hat. You know? That's a good question for the listeners. Like, when did like when did it start in your mind, the insanity, which for me is like COVID, lockdown, posts, all that stuff. And how can you not be fed up? It's just and and that and then the whole year of you know, our country, especially just being polarizing and everything's just everybody's angry with each other, which social media is to blame. I really blame social media. I think it's just the worst. I mean, I'm I'm a I'm to blame as well because I'm on social media plenty.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, but you know what, you know what? I can so I can defend social media by it depends on what you're doing and what you're doing on social media. There's a lot of great stuff on social media, and there's a lot of d demented stuff on it's no different than what you watch on TV, what we used to watch on cable. You can either watch that filth or you or not. Well, I know, but you can have to look at bad shit on the website. No, you don't have to, but it'll pop up.
SPEAKER_05:Like it'll make you I'll see something and I'll just get pissed. I'm like, come on. That's good. What is that a bad thing for you to be able to do that? Well, I just think it I I do think though You're a podcast insane, but you can't get pissed. I think it's bringing it bring it in here. I mean you gotta I I don't think there's an argument for this, though. I think social media is definitely gas on the fire. I mean, I I don't think it's a positive I think it it can have positive uses. I think people use it for good reasons most of the time. But it's not good. I mean it's it's it's it's not it's it's not good for our kids. It's not and I I'm victim of it. I'm like and guilty of it at the same time. Let it get under my skin. You know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:But but have temptation, I'm sorry, Klo, but that's all right temptation's been around forever. Of course. Since the beginning of time.
SPEAKER_09:It it is an interesting point. That because like in the whatever, when TV came out, they were like, that's the devil TV is the worst thing for you, and this is a bigger worse thing, but it's just another thing in the cycle of the city.
SPEAKER_05:I agree with that, but you couldn't put your TV in your pocket.
SPEAKER_08:No.
SPEAKER_05:This this is we're watching it all then.
SPEAKER_08:It's amped up a lot more, but it's it's it's still the same temptation to go there.
SPEAKER_05:It it is, but it's even it's really deeper than it's exponentially worse. What would you do? But but it is another thing, another another phone.
SPEAKER_08:How much trouble would you be in right now if you had this when you were 14? A lot of most trouble. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:A lot of trouble. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:If we had these phones when I was 14, we had these phones. Oh my god. I I think about the young boys and girls today that were raised on these things. I can't imagine what they're battling. Can't imagine what they're battling.
SPEAKER_10:I mean, like the the only it's right there.
SPEAKER_08:It's just like what Tully said, and it's it's in your pocket.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, the only porn available when you when we were kids is like if you were fortunate enough to have a neighbor's dad that had a closet full of Playboy.
SPEAKER_05:Or just one center full. Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:Who would do that? I mean, but yeah.
SPEAKER_08:But uh National Geographic National Geographic for me.
SPEAKER_10:And uh yeah, or the old Sears catalog. You know, the old Sears catalog. Nothing like a Mac and D twelve.
SPEAKER_06:All of a sudden the phone's gonna seem so bad. But I will say Nevermind. I love these things.
SPEAKER_10:I've noticed that the more good things that you're liking, say on Instagram, the more good things you're liking and following, the more good things that keep coming up on your feed. So, you know, if you're if you're following a bunch of stuff or liking things or really staying on or like even slowing down on something that disturbs you, you know, it's gonna pick up on the algorithm that they oh you're interested in that. And then it'll feed you that that stuff, you know. But um anyway, yeah, that's a what's on your feed?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:What's that? I have a lot of uh what's on yours. A lot of comedy. Um I've actually since in the last year have started scrolling. Like on and and I'm you you can learn so many cool things. There's like there's like dad things on there. I watch a lot of baby stuff, you know. And I learned yesterday one of the coolest things, you know, and this is it's just random knowledge, but the dishwasher. If you pull out the top rack, there's a little handle on the the left side of the top rack once you pull it out, and it it tilts it and it leaves it in a tilted position, so what the dries and you don't have all the water in the in the bottom of your coffee cups, so it just all runs off. There's a really good tip. Did not know that. But there's a lot of cool handyman tips that you look at 77. Yeah, it's uh no, but it's really cool. It is a lot there's a lot the reason I started on it is because there's a lot of baby stuff, you know, like toddler stuff, infant stuff. And I'm like, oh, that's a good way to do that, you know. So anyway, so a lot of my stuff is coming up on family, babies, preachers, God, Jesus. Um, it's pretty it's pretty wholesome stuff because you're you know, you're in dad mode and that's just what you're following. So anyway. T Telly does not believe you. No, I believe.
SPEAKER_08:Oh, you can look at my I want to look at that. No, he believes that he believes you look at the bottom. Well, here's the thing, I believe.
SPEAKER_10:You know, uh is you can be as a man or woman, you can be anybody can fall to temptation, any any one of us, and and we have. But also I know too, and this is a good thing, that my wife has full access to my phone, and she she can look anywhere, and anybody with common knowledge can take your phone in five seconds and see what you're about and see what you're looking at, and that's just a really good deterrent for me.
SPEAKER_08:Well, there there's a lot of parents out there that just hand these off like pacifiers because it it's a babysitter basically.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:And they they don't check, they don't keep tabs on what their eleven-year-olds looking at.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:That's not good.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, I think it's Australia. May maybe I forget which one. But anyway, they're trying to limit that to where they can until you're 16 or whatever, you can't listen, you can't have any social media, you can't have TikTok, you can't have Instagram, YouTube, or anything like that. So I think they're trying to pass that, but I don't know. That'd be tough. But they're also showing how kids are already getting around it. They're showing a picture of their mom, you know. You'll always be able to get around stuff. But um but there was some good news today I saw um that President Trump uh from all the tariff, you know, people have different thoughts about the tariffs and everything. Uh, but there's gonna be twelve billion dollars going to the farmers here because they're they're directly impacted uh in some of those ways, which is great because if you don't have farmers, you don't have a you don't have a country, you know, we can't eat. So that's awesome news.
SPEAKER_05:You gotta let I mean some of the stuff too, you gotta let like this is first year back in, so like it takes a minute. It takes a minute like to you know to turn the economy around, which is everything's been pretty good. But the the tariffs, I mean that that's gonna be I mean that's gonna be a a positive thing.
SPEAKER_10:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_05:I mean everybody gets worked up about it, but you know, it's uh that's a it's a long game play. It's long game. And and in second, third year people are gonna see that he's saved the money.
SPEAKER_08:Do you think there's a lot of liberals out there that know that it's gonna work, but they'll still want it.
SPEAKER_09:No, no, I I think they're so uh headstrong against it, they're just nope, that's a horrible, bad idea.
SPEAKER_08:But I th I think there are Trump haters out there that actually that are smart, they're that are smart that know that that's a good idea, but they'll never admit it.
SPEAKER_09:And you might be right. It's just the the people that I know that hate Trump aren't that way. They just think whatever it is, it's bad. Trump bad.
SPEAKER_08:That's just plain stupidity right there. To me. Yeah. Without doing any digging whatsoever. Well, I'm not just that's what I th I just think there's just that's just stupid. If you won't dig and find out the facts and see how it really affects people that you live next to, that's just plain stupidity. Just because you hate somebody.
SPEAKER_09:Just critically think. That's always been a thing to me. I I have always felt like I've tried to be reasonable, even there's still stuff that Trump is doing now that drives me nuts. I just don't like. But that doesn't mean I don't think as a whole he's doing a good job, because I do. But there's things that I go, eh, I'd rather he didn't not have done that.
SPEAKER_05:I think it comes down to at least myself, like I don't think I would blindly vote. Okay, say say there's a Republican or an independent. If the Republican running, this is my straight, this may be a conversation. If the Republican had a platform where it's something that I was just against, I don't know what that would be, but if it's something that really bothered me, it bothered me, and I'm not gonna blindly vote just because I'm a Republican. I've got to believe in the platform. I have to. I can't otherwise I'm um no no better than a liberal who no matter what will hate Trump even though he might make their life better. You know what I'm saying? And so I think that that's I think we're all that way a little bit where it's like, look, you what's the common sense? Like we know wrong or right.
SPEAKER_08:It it it it seems like you've I think it's changed so much over the years, the the gap between the left and the right. Oh, I I I voted for Phil Bredison, who was a Democrat years ago because I thought he was the best candidate. But that's but that's before all the insanity started and the great divide started. That's a great point. Yeah. You know, it's it's so different today. It's it's you don't even call them Democrats anymore. They're called far left libs. I mean, that's what we call 'em now. We don't even call them Democrats anymore. And and I think the divide is so so vast now that you don't have a choice but to vote for the sane as opposed to the insane, because it's that's where it is now. It's sane and insane now. It's not left and right. It's now it's gotten to the point where it's crazy, not crazy.
SPEAKER_05:Well, like we always talk about, we've lost the middle ground. And it's like it's it's the left is so far, and you you're like, how can that how can it be that? Like, how can you vote for someone who uh is for dudes swimming against girls? We come back to that. Exactly. Or how can you do that? That that's not right. That's not fair. It's it's ridiculous. So I can't even put that on my radar, so I'm gonna have to vote here. Well, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_10:What we were talking about earlier, uh telly, and to both of those points, like how can you vote for this? Think about Nashville and that that special election that we just had, uh Democrat Afton Bain, I think he's I think that actually her H.
SPEAKER_08:But her face is next to the word insane.
SPEAKER_05:That actually really, really upset me.
SPEAKER_08:Right?
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, talk about that.
SPEAKER_05:But I mean, but a lot of people voted for her.
SPEAKER_10:A lot.
SPEAKER_05:And that's that's the scary part.
SPEAKER_10:And thirteen for fourteen counties, that that was what she was going to be running.
SPEAKER_09:I mean, it was mostly Greater Nashville that voted for. Right. Right? When you saw the map, it's always the populated.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:Everybody, like Williamson County was predominantly not.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Um But Nashville, the home of country music. Yes, that she said she hated. Hated everything.
SPEAKER_07:Now look, she didn't backtrack that.
SPEAKER_06:She did say she hated the tavern, which had a point.
SPEAKER_07:She had a good point there.
SPEAKER_06:But she gets a pass on the pedal tab.
SPEAKER_10:But on the night of the election, though, she shows up, you know, dressed up like rhinestones. You know, female version of Porter Wagner.
SPEAKER_08:Doing all she can. Doing all she can.
SPEAKER_10:Singing nine to five or whatever she's like, like to attract or something.
SPEAKER_08:I think that's what lost it for. Oh god.
SPEAKER_10:And it was already over by then, thank God that she's gonna be.
SPEAKER_08:I know, but somebody saw her getting dressed, and they're like, what? She's a fraud.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, well, she probably said, hey, people are stupid. That's probably what she thought. And a lot of them are people are stupid.
SPEAKER_08:But when she said I hate country music, that was the worst thing she could have ever said.
SPEAKER_10:In Nashville.
SPEAKER_08:It built this town. Yes. It built this town. She hates the one thing that built this city.
SPEAKER_10:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_08:And offended a lot of people. Yeah. Well, it didn't work out for it, did it?
SPEAKER_09:No, I'm glad she did it because it got enough attention and noise that.
SPEAKER_10:Take note, Libs. We shut her down. Well, yeah, she was known as the AOC of Tennessee. That didn't that didn't get a good ring. That didn't end up. AOC. It did a great ring.
SPEAKER_08:I mean, it's so scary. Yeah. Yeah. So Merry Christmas, everybody.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Well, I mean, it happens. It happens for a reason. Yeah. It's just a lot, a lot of crap. That's right.
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SPEAKER_08:Well, hunting season's almost over, and I'm trying to get in touch with writing season. Mmm. I'm fondling my fretboard.
SPEAKER_05:Wait, wait, what's going on?
SPEAKER_10:You got what is what is this brochure? I'm just it's it's it's for later. It's for the it's for this segment.
SPEAKER_09:Well you just brought it out, so what is it?
SPEAKER_10:I'm not ready for it yet. I'm just gonna, but I don't want to have to turn around while I'm talking. Wait a minute. Did you get us all Rolexes? Mary has nothing to the watch. Did you KLO? Nothing to do with the watch.
SPEAKER_06:No. That's unfortunate. That would have been nice.
SPEAKER_10:Um Yeah. No, I don't that's can't happen this Christmas. Maybe at some point, uh, but uh that's not gonna happen. Uh I was uh I was informed today that that we have uh quite a few people, I don't know the exact number, that feel like that we do not like women and we talk about them in a derogatory way.
SPEAKER_06:Well, you only Neil does that. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, well, we have had many episodes uh that we have not been super supportive. Now, mainly though And I told this person, I got to talk and I said generally it's sports related W NBA or W.
SPEAKER_08:Oh, like no refs and stuff. I get it.
SPEAKER_10:And if you're talking about a you know female ref like NFL, so but if you're a woman, you would pick up on it, hey, these guys are bashing females, they don't like females succeeding. No, let me clear some. That's stuff that we want to do.
SPEAKER_08:How does that turn into bashing women? Well, if you want to watch them, bashing women, we haven't bashed women in general.
SPEAKER_10:I'm saying it's perceived that way.
SPEAKER_07:Well, that's their problem.
SPEAKER_10:That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_09:I don't know where they got that from. So what I want to say, so let's let's try to be fair about this. So go on with what you were gonna say.
SPEAKER_10:Well, I'd mainly wanted to say that you know, for anybody listening or those of you that do watch, uh this it's a podcast. So we're we're not a band. Uh we're not we don't all have a collective mind. You don't agree with everything I say on here? Not everything. There are some good points. There you have some really good points. Everybody has good points. But no, anyway, I'm just saying that might be something we want to clarify that we're not against women succeeding. It's just some of the episodes I think people have like picked little nuggets out of to say, oh, they believe this. They must not like women, they don't want them to succeed.
SPEAKER_05:So what do we say? Well, there's some references.
SPEAKER_10:The ref just came up. Yeah. That and probably the basketball.
SPEAKER_08:I have I have issues with uh women in a lot of areas. Well I'm talking about professionally. I'm talking about capability-wise, physic physically wise. That's what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_09:Are you talking about in sports or like like with the WNBA thing with me is just that I don't they're trying to prop it up when it's just not that good of a problem. I didn't have a lot to say about the WMBA. They can play the game. They can play the game.
SPEAKER_05:I just don't want to be forced to watch the highlights.
SPEAKER_08:You don't have to. I mean, I'm like, that's the whole thing. I'm like, I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_09:They're making you though. They're eating up airtime with them. And there's lots of women's sports that I do enjoy watching. Sure.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah. I'm not I I don't have any problem with women's sports. I have a I have a problem with women referees in the NFL. Okay. That looks ridiculous to me. I got it. It absolutely looks ri ridiculous.
SPEAKER_05:Well he said, Neil said. I don't think it's insane. That's okay. It's okay not to like that. It's not mean we don't like women. I just don't have nothing to do with that.
SPEAKER_09:It is a good subject. We should we should dig deeper, though. We should have our listeners, any female listeners, uh give their opinion in the comments. I can't even believe that.
SPEAKER_08:I can't even believe that has to be explained. Well, no, let's we really can't. I really can't. Somebody has a problem with that. I'm like, why do we even have to explain that? It's pretty obvious why there's women refs in the NFL. It's just woke agenda crap. I mean, that's all it is. That's all it is.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08:What are we even talking about?
SPEAKER_10:Everybody knows. But what if you were to have what if one of your beautiful daughters, Allie or Emma, what if that was their thing? They wanted to grow up and they wanted to be a ref in the NFL. Would you tell them maybe you can't say no to do that? No, it it's no. But there's people there they are doing it.
SPEAKER_08:I know they are. I think it's silly. Very niche. It's a bunch of folly. It's a bunch of freaking woke folly. Now watch your language now.
SPEAKER_10:This is a family show, Neil.
SPEAKER_08:It is.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:You know, and we've had to clarify. To clarify, you're saying that because if you didn't really play professional football. I'm just saying, if you didn't play professional football, that's why there shouldn't be a woman rap.
SPEAKER_08:You know what? Why can't men have why can't we just do men's stuff? Why can't men just do men's stuff? I agree with Neil. Like on the why do they have Tom Frode? We don't do women's shit. Or at least the weird the the real men don't. He's on fire tonight. Neil D.
SPEAKER_10:Man, you would be you me you remember the little rascals, the He Man's Woman Hater Club? Yeah. So that's what we don't want. You don't want people to think we're like in Little.
SPEAKER_08:This all freaking started when that woman wanted to be a member at Augusta. That's when it all freaking started. And then Condoleezza Rice jumped on the, you know, she jumped on. Like, why can't we have a men's club? What's wrong with that? You can't have your men's club. We're going to interrupt it. We got all these women that are pissed that men are having a club. Why? Well, deep down women.
SPEAKER_06:Because deep down women don't want us to have fun. That's a good thing. This maybe true. I've joked.
SPEAKER_10:Maybe I shouldn't have brought it up because we're No no.
SPEAKER_08:I because seriously, a little bit of them, not be careful.
SPEAKER_06:Be careful.
SPEAKER_08:Wouldn't you think if I wa if I was women bashing that I would go, there shouldn't be any women songwriters or any women country artists in in our industry. I mean, seriously. Yeah that would be whack.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah. That would be whack.
SPEAKER_08:You know, this it this has to do with physique and capability. And why can't we just do what we do? Let let the men play their game, let the men ref the men. Please.
SPEAKER_05:He's not wrong, guys. I th I think if you're watching an NFL game.
SPEAKER_09:But okay, just so it can be clarified, explain that. Because if you're saying if you didn't play the sport, you shouldn't be allowed to ref it. Is that the reason? Or is it just because it's a men's league? It should be it. Yeah, that's a good question, Garrett. Really? Paint him into a corner there. No, no, no. I just want people to understand, because I don't I I'm gonna say I don't want a woman out there either. It's because she didn't play the game.
SPEAKER_08:I got a feeling if you don't have a problem with women on the sideline reporting. I don't have a problem with that. But once you step on that field, that's a whole different arena. Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:But I think there was an episode, it wasn't about sideline uh reporting, it's about commentary. There was somebody that said they didn't like women commentary on football because they didn't play.
SPEAKER_08:Yes. Right? And there's an argument there's an argument there as well. But if she is well if she knows the game well enough to do that, more power to her.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_08:More power to her.
SPEAKER_09:I mean, most of the commentary even guys are guys that, you know, whatever Romo, Brady, they are guys that play the game, and I personally enjoy that more. So I wouldn't want to hear a woman commentary either. My wife's the same way, by the way. Yeah, but so is mine.
SPEAKER_05:I think I think if you you're at a football game with 80,000 people, and there was a secret survey sent out. A secret survey. Do you want women reflecting people would be like, no. No.
SPEAKER_07:It's it just looks forced. We know why they're out there. It just looks forced. Without saying it, we know why they're there.
SPEAKER_05:It just like Neil said, in a break. Not everything has to be such a hot button issue. It's just like it's it's football. Can't we just have our stuff?
SPEAKER_08:There's a there is there is a simplest form. That's bullshit.
SPEAKER_09:And there's your clip of the week.
SPEAKER_08:But it's true. Yeah. What do you think about let me ask you this? Let's let's take it. Let's take it a step further.
SPEAKER_05:We're getting granular.
SPEAKER_08:I like it when Neil can. No, no, no, no. No, I'm just leader totally legit. What do you think about women cops? You've already been down this road.
SPEAKER_10:I want to know what y'all think. I th I think it's I mean it's da it's dangerous. I mean, I uh because I I watch I watch cops all the time.
SPEAKER_08:Have you ever seen three dudes standing around while the female takes the dude down? Have you ever seen that? I mean I have seen.
SPEAKER_10:Never that I have seen and I watch cops a lot. I do too. And and is it still on? And women, yeah. And it's of course it's still probably syndicated, you know. But the only ones try to take them down.
SPEAKER_08:The only the only ones I've seen is is the big dudes take the guy down and she walks up afterwards and puts the handcuffs on.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:But it's still a job. It is a dangerous, dangerous job for a woman to go do. Absolutely. I wouldn't I wouldn't like that. I've seen videos, I've seen videos of women getting killed, nearly killed, by pulling a you know, a driver over, and that get that dude gets out and says, Oh, this is a woman, and she's by herself. Which is a stupid stupid policy. Yeah. To have a woman out there on the beat by herself. It's it's ridiculous. Yeah. And she got her she got her head knocked off. I mean, she should have been she should have died. Because she was a woman, she couldn't do anything. She was defenseless. Yeah. I just, I just, I just I think there's jobs for men and there's jobs for women. Period. It's just common sense to me. I don't even know why it's a discussion. Because it's a podcast. That's right. And most most most I guarantee you, most everybody out there in the back of their mind, even though they don't want to because they're scared to say it, would agree with that. And I'll leave you with that, but they would agree with that.
SPEAKER_10:Well, then we can but we can say for sure, and listeners have have heard, uh, we have a lot of female guests on. You know, we love having female guests on, and this is why I brought this. Okay, finally, we're getting for you guys mainly, because I don't know how many people watch this, but one of our guests, and may we call her possibly a friend, Lee Allen Barker. Yeah, right? Yeah. She's crashing Maker. And uh and she's doing great. She's here. This is this Franklin magazine, which is really cool. I mean, they put this thing out. Um that's an impressive woman. It's really she's very impressive, and now she's you know, outside of acting, now she's now she's writing and producing and stuff like that, but it's it's things in line with her moral values. Like she's not chasing anything, she's doing things that that align with her uh and her beliefs and everything, and she's just you know, I bet I bet you Lee Allen Baker agrees with me.
SPEAKER_08:On everything on everything.
SPEAKER_05:Some of your stuff, Neil, some of your stuff, I will say.
SPEAKER_08:I bet she agrees with me.
SPEAKER_05:It's so again we talk about the things we it seems seems crazy. Like I agree with Neil on a lot of stuff. Some of this it's just innocent. It's like NFL football, just let the dudes ref. This is something WMBA let the let the girls ref. Like do your thing, like you know, just I don't understand what the why it's gotta be such a huge issue. It's like you don't see you don't see women refs in hockey NHL. You know, dangerous out there.
SPEAKER_08:Even though we want to. We want to see it just for the one game. No, it's time to until something bad happens. You know.
SPEAKER_09:And then it's not a good idea, it's not such a good idea anymore. By the way, uh backplug. That sounded weird.
SPEAKER_10:But if you haven't seen the that was two that was two letters short of being something we couldn't say on the podcast.
SPEAKER_09:Uh if you haven't seen the Lee Allen Baker episode, please go back and watch it. That was one of our you think she would come on again? Of course she would.
SPEAKER_05:Hey, will you come on again, Lee Allen? Oh, yeah, please absolutely here it is.
SPEAKER_08:She lives in my neighborhood.
SPEAKER_05:Clip of the week. Yeah. Uh-huh. Actually, she she was great. Go watch that episode if you haven't seen it yet. What's what's in here? What's the other things you have?
SPEAKER_10:Oh, that's just it's nothing. I mean, it's just little notes. It's notes. I got you. I was gonna yeah. It's just if we ran if we had plenty of time, but uh anyway.
SPEAKER_05:That's a good question for the female listeners, though. Do you think Neil doesn't like women?
SPEAKER_10:I'd love to know that the the split would be. Or do you think the the podcast in general is that?
SPEAKER_08:I know I know I know my tone maybe my tone may be harsh. I get it. But it's just I'm I haven't said anything that that I don't mean or I don't believe. But we've also And I'm not gonna apologize for my tone.
SPEAKER_05:But we've bragged about women in the industry and the artists and writers, and it's just it's just some of this stuff's just common sense. It's common sense. I gotta get with Neil and some of this stuff's just I don't know.
SPEAKER_08:I don't I don't see what the big deal is. The day and age we're living in, people are just they're thinking it, they they're never gonna say it because they've been scared. COVID scared them.
SPEAKER_09:COVID back to it.
SPEAKER_08:Everybody everybody got scared. It got weird.
SPEAKER_05:Things got weird.
SPEAKER_08:They went in their little safe space and they're afraid to say anything.
SPEAKER_05:Actually, we defend women mostly I mean, seriously. So angry about all the, you know, men and women's sports. I that was my big thing. Like having a daughter, and it's like I I wouldn't I just can't believe we're even having a irony with that.
SPEAKER_09:It's like you're you're trying to support and champion women by saying no dudes.
SPEAKER_08:I know it's a sports. I know we're we're actually saying a good thing. But it's always the no contact sports, though. They're gonna take advantage of the non-contact sports first.
SPEAKER_09:Did you see the weightlifter the Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:I mean what are we doing?
SPEAKER_09:Tell me what it was.
SPEAKER_06:I I yeah, well, it was a good lifter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08:Did the women get pissed? Of course they did.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, in the picture, yeah.
SPEAKER_10:They didn't know.
SPEAKER_05:The fact that it's happening should make everyone just really it's time. Enough's enough. This is ridiculous.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, I think we're heading that way. I don't want to talk about it anymore yet, guys. I really don't. I don't. There you go.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, I think about female hunters. Love them.
SPEAKER_08:But can they there's nothing? Yeah, and that's not a contact sport. That's freaking awesome. Are you kidding me? My daughters have killed deer. I've been with them.
SPEAKER_05:Uh that should clarify any confusion about how Neil feels feels about it's it's what you said a while ago.
SPEAKER_08:It's it's just frickin' common sense. Y'all know what what we what our roles are and what we should do and what we're capable of doing. K-Lo?
SPEAKER_10:Uh well, there's a lot of top we can talk about, but uh but we could talk about um um Jim, our producer, had sent had been sent some comment trying to figure out because next year you always want to you know try to take something to the next one. Transitioning or grow.
SPEAKER_06:No big news tonight on the Five Uh Big News. Jim is transitioning, everybody. Jane. To Jane. Jane. And that's why I get here late. Sorry, Jim. We're joking. We needed a good laugh at your experience. Sorry.
SPEAKER_10:But no, it's some really good some really good stuff that uh and which is gonna, you know, be the the fans of the show get uh more involved, like we're gonna have like a the super fan of the week and comments off of the socials and things like that, and read that, or if we can even figure out a way um, you know, to get whatever that voicemail thing was that that you speak pipe. Yeah, it uh because it it dovetails into what we what we ultimately want to do, and it reminded Neil and I of this. We we played a um a show, you know, it was a benefit, uh, and it was close to Nashville, but uh Murphysboro or Manchester is called uh Bershaba, Bersheba Springs, right? And um it's spelled Beersheba, but they really get mad at you if you say that. But it's called it's Bersheba Springs. And um anyway, it was it we raised money for uh for a medical center, and and that was part of what you know, try that in small town podcasts is you know, is about well represented is by those helping people and things like that. So what we want, we want to get the listeners from everywhere in America to send in your story, you know, from your small town, or whether it's if city, it doesn't matter if it's city where wherever it is, hey, somebody was down and somebody helped them out, whatever kind of hero story or just compassion story or loving story, we want to hear those and and advertise those and have the story of the week, and then maybe at the end of the year or something like that, for the best one, you know, and it could be fan voted or whatever. That maybe maybe there's a monetary gift for that person that has the best story at the end of the year. Maybe it's a thousand bucks or something. Who knows? You know, so we'll think about that over our Christmas dinner and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_09:And we need it, we need that kind of stuff brought to light because unfortunately, when you watch the news or whatever, they they don't highlight that stuff. It gets buried in big time. It just gets buried. So we want to make sure it gets highlighted. Like the dude that remember we had the guy on for like a small episode that went in and saved the people from the fire and the whole thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like that was incredible. Yeah, stuff like that. You just don't hear about it enough. So to back up what Kalos said, yes, we're gonna do that starting next year. Uh we challenge you guys to look for those side of social media.
SPEAKER_08:When you get to see those kind of stories like that and then take advantage of them. Yep.
SPEAKER_05:Neil, you've been on tonight. Neil's been good. I don't care what Kalos says. I didn't I didn't say it. Say it either.
SPEAKER_10:Um But yeah, so that'd that'll be really good. And Jim, we appreciate you thinking about that stuff. That is really good. Thanks, Jane. Jim.
SPEAKER_06:Really? That is sick.
SPEAKER_10:Man, I wrote with a guy the other day and I took the I I looked at, you know, because you don't book your own appointment, your publisher puts them in your book or whatever. That's your first book. Okay. I suppose they say you said it said me.
SPEAKER_06:So uh but anyway. You must be writing for DeMarcus.
SPEAKER_10:But no, they the um uh yes, I am. Actually, it's working really good over there. I really like I really like the we gotta have him on, by the way. Speaking of Jay. Yeah. No, I know. I I we need to give him a little more notice. Maybe next week. I'll see him tomorrow night because we've got the Red Street Christmas party tomorrow night. Well, you know what?
SPEAKER_08:We we should get all three flats on. Yeah. They won't do it. I think we'll do it.
SPEAKER_09:I think we know all of them. I don't think they'll do it either.
SPEAKER_08:I think we can do it. I don't I don't think leave it on Neil. Okay.
SPEAKER_10:O'Neill get it. Okay, so you can do that.
SPEAKER_06:That would be yeah, I that'd be a blast. That'd be that'd be something. We need a bigger table. We need a lot more money.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, that'd be that'd be that'd be a cluster. Um anyway, what were you saying with it? You were right or something.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, oh yeah. Anyway, and uh the guy his his name was John Wayne Hatfield. I thought, man, what a what a cool name. And I was talking to him and he was telling about his story. It was a really cool story. You know, because you spend, you know, 20, 30 minutes figuring out, say, hey, where are you from, all the stuff, you know? And he's just a really cool guy, you know, and he goes, and he goes, he goes, man, he goes, I guess we're living in a trailer park, and and there's some flyer about a songwriting contest, and so I entered it, and he goes, I'm more rock than anything, but he said it's country, so I kind of wrote a little bit of country and and he won. And and he goes, and I didn't know what to the grand prize was to place the bluebird. And so next thing you know, he placed the bluebird. Scott Borshetta was there, and next thing you know, he's moved to town and he's writing with everybody in town. But I but I that wasn't my point. The point of that is it's very positive, it's very cool to hear that. It's like, man, that's that that has to be a God thing for that guy. But anyway, I said, John Wayne Hatfield. I said, that's that's the cool coolest name I think I've heard of. And he goes, he goes, he goes, yeah. He goes, but he goes, but he goes, I I lost my brother won. I said, what was your brother's name? says says Jesse James Hatfield. And I said I said, What Jesse James Hatfield? It was like it was like, yeah, I guess mama loved him more, you know. I I don't know, no, he didn't say that. But anyway, I just thought that was really cool. Um that just came to my head.
SPEAKER_08:I mean, you're born to be a country music star. If you have any talent at all and you're name that on Earth, I'm telling you you're gonna be a star. Yeah. You better be a star.
SPEAKER_10:It is really cool.
SPEAKER_08:John Wayne Gacy.
SPEAKER_05:Which is a good thing. I tell you why I thought of that. Yeah. I tell you why I thought of that. Another Christmas show. On the Peacock Network, the John it's it it's uh can't remember the name of it. It's it's John Wayne Gacy's it's a TV show. I don't think I've seen it. It's not a documentary, though. Oh, oh it's it's an actual like show, like eight, nine episodes, and I oh I can't remember that name. But it's it's really good. I I didn't know he many many people he killed, and you know, you know someone that and we we started talking about that. Yeah, like yeah, I've seen it. But but not not the documentary, but the actual show. You should watch it. Yeah. Like the because there's good actors in it.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, we are yeah, we have a few degrees of separation of uh being close to the story. Yes. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER_08:That's interesting.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah. It's actually do tell. Do tell. We'll get to it on another episode. Oh, you're killing us.
SPEAKER_08:No, it's a fair to be continued.
SPEAKER_09:It actually is good though.
SPEAKER_08:Y'all want to talk about the playoffs at all? Absolutely.
SPEAKER_09:Well, let's let's let's end with the playoffs. Let's do that. Because it's uh there's a lot of drama. Uh your Alabama Crimson Tide didn't make it in. Congratulations. Well, well, I mean, you could some people say fair, some people say not fair. Yeah. I mean what say you?
SPEAKER_08:Everybody's got an opinion, and I didn't think we would make it in. Yeah. I didn't think we deserved to make it in. I watched the full game and I I was but I didn't even count that game. It's it's a stupid exhibition game.
SPEAKER_09:The the conference championship?
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, the conference championship games are are a rid ridiculous at this point.
SPEAKER_05:Actually thought it mattered. Actually thought it mattered. I thought it was a bigger deal. It's not a big deal, is it? No.
SPEAKER_08:Well it's up to two or three years ago it was a big deal, but now it's now. You tell me, you give me one positive thing about the conference championship games now. All I can give you a whole plethora of negatives. It's it's just an exhibition game number one. The kids are gonna opt out. Let's let's get some more guys hurt while in the process on a meaningless game. We beat Georgia already at home. Guess what? We could play them a third time. Yeah, good. Wouldn't doubt it. It's insane. It's absolutely the conference they they gotta figure out a system, and we've heard people I've listened to college sports networks all day today, and everybody has a different opinion. Of course, Alabama deserves to be in if you just go look at their you know schedule from this past season. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, well they didn't think they'd be four or five teams in a row that were ranked in a row, and it's never been done. That was a big stretch. And it was a big deal. Yeah. Um they go into the Georgia game. I told everybody, we're gonna we're not gonna win this game. These number one, we have like twelve guys that are out, they're not playing. We're not gonna win. They don't the mental part of that when you once you've already beat it too.
SPEAKER_10:Injured, no, because no nobody's opting out for the SEC championship.
SPEAKER_08:No, they're injured. Did I say opt out? No, no, but opting out. Opting out with the will make sure. They will. Because it's a meaningless game, and I'm glad the committee looked at it that way as a meaningless. The Indiana Ohio State game was just a game to get somebody hurt. I would have not even played that game if I were them to. They're good they're because they're both in the playoffs, regardless of the outcome.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah. Yes, I think they both buy. Regardless of the outcome. That's what I'm saying. They're gonna get rid of those comprehensive. They have to decision.
SPEAKER_08:They have to, especially the Ohio State Indiana game. Was was I like, what are y'all doing, man? You're risking your whole season in somebody's career over an exhibition game.
SPEAKER_10:In another play. Well, they have zero control. I mean, they're just like you're just playing what you're supposed to play. They can't save it.
SPEAKER_08:You got Julian Sayed out there who's, you know, who was up for the Heisman, and then and then the other dude, you know, Mendoza that's gonna win that the Heisman. They're like, what are y'all doing? He's running. Yeah. They have him running.
SPEAKER_09:Dude, he got clocked. I don't know if you saw the beginning of the game. He got clocked.
SPEAKER_08:And if he'd have gotten taken out for the season, yeah, then what?
SPEAKER_09:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:For what? An exhibition game?
SPEAKER_09:But we did get to watch Tulane and uh James Madison. So that's right.
SPEAKER_08:And see, that's my and there's the other thing. Notre Dame's got to be looking. Everybody wants to blame Alabama for the committee for putting Alabama in on the Notre Dame argument. I'm like, Notre Dame needs to be arguing about that.
SPEAKER_10:Well, no Notre Dame is as refusing to play a bowl game now. I know it. You know. Which gets kind of interesting because if you're gonna have I was listening to that today too, if you're gonna have the the championships of the conferences, they need to be in a conference.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:You gotta make it equal somehow, more equal. Because it's just it's not it it's just not really NFL.
SPEAKER_05:This is a mess. It is a mess.
SPEAKER_08:It is a mess.
SPEAKER_05:It's I I didn't realize I want to go back to the old system. That it didn't didn't matter. For some reason I thought it all mattered. It didn't matter, did it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:I mean, what it's a sense. The playoffs have turned into the the biggest shit show now. It's so it's so backfired on them. I do too, but it's so backfired on the biggest.
SPEAKER_05:I mean it was actually better when people thought it was really bad, like 15 years ago, 12 years ago.
SPEAKER_08:Which is my point. It's a contact sport. It could have been it doesn't matter in baseball and basketball. When you get to football, it's a whole different game.
SPEAKER_10:I mean, it it could have mattered, like because you don't know what's gonna happen until the season starts to play out, but but there's a what-if scenario. Like when Alabama entered that game, they were they were what? They had two losses, right? So so let's say let's say Alabama had three losses, and and their only way to get in is to beat Georgia in that SEC championship, and they certainly could have, and then you'd have been thankful that there was a championship game or a conference game, right? So you know what I mean? So that would be uh turn it around. I just but I'm just saying as a fan, like like for me, I guess uh we're not thinking about the end results, we're just thinking, oh cool, my team plays on Saturday. This is this is awesome.
SPEAKER_08:Well that's just another game. The strength of schedule had everything. That's the only reason they're in. Yeah. It's because they have a No, I know. I'm just saying that's the thing. That's the only reason that they're in. When you A B when you A B Indiana's schedule and Ohio State's schedule up against Tennessee's schedule, up against Alabama's schedule. You know what?
SPEAKER_09:Come come play that golf. Oh, I'll be devil's advocate here because the same argument was made last year against Ohio State, and then Ohio State dominated.
SPEAKER_10:Good point. They crushed everybody crushed.
SPEAKER_08:Well, I'll you know what? I'll I'll retract that. I'll s I'll take Ohio State out of the equation. Yeah. Because I know what the kind of talent they had. Yeah. That's I mean, that's they they have NFL players. But here's the but here's the thing. Yeah. Here's the thing. Go go down, let's let's let's A B the the SEC teams that are absolutely beat to hell. Ohio State has all of their weapons. Healthy as a horse. All of them.
SPEAKER_09:Well, it's true because usually they're resting their guys.
SPEAKER_08:They don't have a scab on them.
SPEAKER_09:There's not a scab on their players. I think I heard one of their schedule is uh opting out of the playoff, though. Just because he's getting ready for the NFL. Yeah, I get that. And they should.
SPEAKER_08:They should. I totally agree. Yeah. You're thinking about your future. You got to. Yeah. I'm just I'm just A-B, you know.
SPEAKER_09:Okay, so who's got who do we got? Who's the favorites? Georgia?
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_09:Ohio State? Ohio State. I think Ohio State. They're fresh. They got the best.
SPEAKER_08:I mean, look at them. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:I mean, they just got beat.
SPEAKER_08:They don't even stretch. They just got beat.
SPEAKER_10:They just I mean, it just depends. I mean, I don't I mean they definitely just don't care.
SPEAKER_08:It's like they know they're in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_05:I think that has something to do with that. That kicker might care.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah. He may be both teams got to buy regardless of how of what the outcome was. They both got to buy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, but I don't I don't know. I'll I'll definitely be watching, but you never know. It's football. Somebody else could win it. They could Ohio State could be play a game like they play against Michigan a lot.
SPEAKER_05:I'd say the best thing about college football right now is the college game day in the morning when they got those people kicking those field goals for like a million bucks straight out there. And they're out there with McAfee. And they got they had this guy last week, I was watching it, for a million bucks. And he kicked that thing 35 feet to the left, you know. Yeah. And they moved him up halfway and they said half the distance, half the money. Half a million. You guys see this? I did. And yanked it again. And like I'm thinking, damn. I mean, it's great, like life-changing, and I've seen guys win that. You know? Um I haven't seen girls kick it yet, Neil, but the guys kick it. Yeah, why won't they let girls kick?
SPEAKER_08:I haven't I've yet to see a girl kick.
SPEAKER_10:Might have to ask Laura Radio.
SPEAKER_09:ISO, but women and women in sports. Neil, this isn't a question for you because you're you're too good, but how long of a field goal could you kick?
SPEAKER_05:Ten yards. And you gotta move the goalpost that to the left. I'm gonna skip it. I've tried this, that's why I know. It is a very hard thing. Hurts, and my my football goes just two or three feet above the ground. You got any uh kicking game?
SPEAKER_10:Uh I had no idea, probably not. I've never I've never I hadn't tried since I was.
SPEAKER_05:Of course, with the footballs that cook in NFL now, I might have a shot. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah. I might have a good shot. Neil, how long can you do? What I mean, you're obviously a kicker.
SPEAKER_05:Uh huh.
SPEAKER_09:What could you still do right now?
SPEAKER_05:Oh, I have no idea. You know what? We're gonna find out. We're gonna go tape it. Oh, this is tune in this spring. We're gonna get some video footage of this. That's awesome. So we're gonna start at 15 and move her back. Let's go.
SPEAKER_09:We've got to start further than that.
SPEAKER_05:20. I mean 20. He hasn't kicked in a long time.
SPEAKER_09:It's not 30 is a gimmick.
SPEAKER_08:It's all about the plant foot anyway.
SPEAKER_05:Kayleigh, you hold the ball.
SPEAKER_02:Do you see that dude from I would drop it? Who was it?
SPEAKER_09:The NFL kicker. Was it on the who was it on the Giants or somebody that did his plant foot and then he dug his uh Koo, right? Or did he do that? What did he do? Giants. Yes. What did he do? He went to go kick a field goal and his kicking foot like a divot. He went fat and it just stuck. It just stuck in the ground. His kicking foot. Oh wow.
SPEAKER_05:The holder had to pick up and try to. But he said he he came out and said something had happened or the something happened. But then you see Jackson Dart's face when they panned over to him.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my God.
SPEAKER_05:Classic. It's just a professional kicker. Like, dude, this guy I wouldn't even do this. He used to kick for Atlanta. Yeah. And he used to kick bombs. Yeah. And this guy, his foot. Was the field wet? No. Listen, it's like me swinging at a golf club. I just hit the ground. Hit the ground, I don't hit the ball. That's what his foot did. Amazing. It's like a f a good thing. Please go Google it. I'll do that tonight.
SPEAKER_08:Jim, you know what to do. There was a woman ref involved. So it was. Distracted him. It distracted him. Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER_10:You may not have to worry about any of that. Who knows? I I saw today that there's an interstellar comet, comet coming toward close to the Earth, and like in a couple weeks they will know because people are saying, well, like all the smart guys, you know, they say, Well, is it UFO or is it a comet? And they say, Well, it's too far away, we're not really sure. So they're stirring up all the stuff uh World's End? No, no, no. No, no, not like not like what Scripture doesn't. Y2K or whatever. No, but it's um uh but apparently it's gonna be kind of so in a couple weeks they'll have enough information on it to actually see what it is, but it's one of those it's one of those things that really smart people get us uh worked up about.
SPEAKER_05:Like deep impact. I just watched that the other day. Yeah, it was a good one. And I will say Morgan Freeman's president in that movie, I'd vote for him. Morgan Freeman for president of our client. That'd be amazing. He's great. Morgan Freeman is brilliant, by the way. Yeah, he'd be a great president, just like he was in Deep Impact. In Shawshank Redemption. He's very good.
SPEAKER_09:He solves all kinds of problems. Yeah. And he played God in some movie too. With a voice, with a voice I can think of.
SPEAKER_05:He's getting stuff done. I think he's a lib. No. He actually Morgan Freeman, he might what I don't know what he is, but he's very if you listen to like to him speak, he's he's very smart. I like I like Morgan Freeman. Yeah. Yep. Seems very likable.
SPEAKER_08:That's part of his great talent. That's right. I wonder if they're a very good thing.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:I mean uh are we at the end? Do you think do you think that do you think our listeners like it when we talk about politics? It's a good question. Or do you think that we should stick to the physical?
SPEAKER_09:Maybe they want us to stick to music and what we do. Well, I think most people, most of our listeners, listen to us because we are involved in the music business. Yes. I'm sure that's the case.
SPEAKER_08:I think they love when we talk about music.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:Well there is, but but it stick but it sticks to topic, you know.
SPEAKER_09:And it's like when we get off on the Well, I think part of it, and when we started this podcast, was you needed to have a voice to stick up for what you felt was right. And it's not necessarily politics, it's more of the common sense stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's in the song, it's part of what we thought the mission was. So yes, we have a deep passion for music, we love to talk music, but I think part of the mission of the podcast was hey, we need to have a voice and stand up for what we think is right. It isn't about this bill or that bill.
SPEAKER_08:And it was because people made our song out to be what it wasn't.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah. Or tried to. So yeah, I don't think we want to get hung up on politics. I don't know. But we do want to get hung up and make sure our voice is heard on what we believe is right. And I love I love women.
SPEAKER_10:But you got to think like that. Oh no, I was just gonna say, because Curtis said this from the beginning, like the the politics we talk about when we do, it's just it's just a common sense take care of your neighbor type thing. Just what the song is. That's the lane we try to stay in. And I think as we've been doing this, because you're because you're finding it, you know, just like writing a song or whatever, and finding I I think we talk less and less about politics, actually.
SPEAKER_05:I don't think I don't think we I think we talk about it when something warrants it.
SPEAKER_10:If it yeah, but not just for the sake of it. We're not gonna regurgitate Fox News, you know.
SPEAKER_08:I do want to find an opportunity on one of these podcasts to talk about Lane Kiffin. Oh, great. At some point. Do you want to get something in? No, no, no. Later.
SPEAKER_10:We can do that next time. There's a lot to talk about. We've got a couple uh next week.
SPEAKER_08:That's because I have a to have a take on where he wants to wind up and everybody knows what I'm talking about. We'll save it for next one.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, we'll say that's good. That's a good one. Yeah. All right. Yeah. We are we good? Yeah, let's make sure we love on the sponsors because we've got like the studio we're in. I know we talk about, but um John Purdle. East. John Purtle. God bless you, young man. Thank you so much for this space. Uh eSpaces. We love it, love it here. And there, I don't know how many cities they're in or states they're in, but it's just a just a cool setup, you know, all different kinds of people, all different types of space and sizes and and uh rent structure and stuff like that. It's just really cool with that common area with the kitchen and the fridges and the and they got all the coffees and the snacks and stuff. I love the free snacks. Are they free? I don't know.
SPEAKER_09:We'll find out. What's going on in your recoup? Like like everything does. No, eSpaces is incredible. Make sure you check that out. Obviously, espaces.com, as Neil would say. Go check that out. Uh, Patriot Mobile, somebody won a love on Patriot Mobile, they are incredible. Go to patriotmobile.com, obviously.
SPEAKER_10:Oh, yeah. And they came out to how many shows?
SPEAKER_09:Uh, they I know they sponsored the tour of the shows and love it, right? Yep. It's just one of those people that you love being with. Uh so clear. You their mission in their business is fantastic and their service is impeccable. So go there, put in the code uh small town, get yourself a free month, you won't go back. Original Glory Beer, of course. Those guys have been with us from the beginning. Just got a case of toe, boys. What was that, Kayla? What did you say?
SPEAKER_10:Did you? Yeah. No, I think they were our first sponsor. Yeah. Yeah. Which makes sense. They're on the Christmas tree. Makes total sense. Look at the orange. They are right there on the Christmas tree that Miss Lana put on there.
SPEAKER_09:Uh of course. We appreciate you guys. If you're watching, leave us a comment. We're we're giving you all the stuff to comment on, so do that. With the women's stuff, let's let's hear from our listeners. I love it. I love women. We all do. I'm married to one. But let's hear their opinion. Um what are we going to say?
SPEAKER_10:And then also uh start getting those stories in now so we can over the holidays we can, you know, any any type of small town story or big city, whatever, where somebody's helping somebody out. Um we want those stories so we can start we want to be able to deliver those and give you give those people some love.
SPEAKER_09:Absolutely. Nice. Uh download, watch the episode, follow us on Insta, follow us on X, follow us on TikTok. We're on them all. Facebook. We're gonna start doing that, right, Jim? There we go. Wow. There you go.
SPEAKER_06:That nitty-gritty, that's the details behind the scenes.
SPEAKER_09:All right, for Trash, K-Lo, TK. I'm Kurt. This is a Try That in the Small Town Podcast.