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Why Real Stories Still Matter in the Age of AI with Yana Groves

• Anjani Amriit & Robin Wald • Season 1 • Episode 9

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There will always be demand for real people’s stories. In this episode, we sit down with award-winning executive producer Yana Groves, whose career spans more than three decades across some of the world’s most iconic formats, from MasterChef, My Kitchen Rules, Big Brother, and Below Deck, to her early work as a BBC broadcast journalist.

We talk about what it means to protect authenticity in a world changing fast, including the rise of AI, shifting platforms, and an industry that can be as tough as it is thrilling. Yana shares her personal journey navigating identity, representation, and belonging, while staying grounded in her talent, integrity, and love for storytelling.

This conversation is for creators, storytellers, and anyone feeling called to share something real, even when the world feels uncertain.

In this episode, we explore:

  • Why real human stories will always matter, especially in the age of AI
  • How Yana’s early BBC experience shaped her approach to storytelling and leadership
  • Representation vs merit, and how to hold both with integrity
  • Why “unscripted” storytelling is more than “reality TV”
  • Casting, archetypes, and reflecting the audience with care and intention
  • Mentorship, opportunity, and what emerging creators truly need to break in
  • The industry’s current challenges, and how creators can pivot without losing themselves
  • Joy, play, and creativity as fuel for a sustainable life and career

Special opportunities shared in this episode:

Platinum TV Producer Intensive
 Feb 26–27, 2026
 Sydney

A two-day intensive led by Yana Groves, designed for aspiring and emerging TV creators who want real-world training, insight, and access to industry leaders.

https://bloomtimemedia.com/producer-course

Bleecker Street Nights: LOVE
 Feb 12 and Mar 12
 InSitu, Manly
 6:30 pm

An intimate live music and storytelling night celebrating creativity, connection, and joy.

https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/bleecker-street-nights-presents-a-crazy-little-

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there will always be demand for real people stories it's inherent in us as as as human beings from the moment we could communicate we were sharing each other's stories so that we can learn and grow and pass that on to our next generation it's in it's in it's in us it's inherent the fear obviously is the advent of AI um yes it's going to change the face of how we operate there's no question however AI can't tell the story of a real person the way a real person can tell a story so that's the authenticity is more important now than ever and so the future just means that we're looking at different platforms to tell our stories you know this beautiful podcast for example is springing out of that need welcome to the Wisdom We Share podcast where ancient truths and modern intelligence weave together to inspire ground and shape us for a wiser awakened life I'm Angela Amrit and I'm Robin Wald and together we bring you fascinating conversations from the worlds of spirituality science and human behavior so you can connect to your own inner wisdom joy and clarity elevating the way you actually live your life today we have the pleasure of speaking with Yana Groves an award winning executive producer with over three decades in the industry working on shows like Masterchef Mkar my Kitchen Rules big brother and Below Deck she's produced everything from controversial talk shows to major global formats she began her career as a BBC broadcast journalist and is now a speaker mentor and founder of Bloomtime Media supporting the next generation of content creators Yana has shaped produced and collaborated on some of the most iconic formats in global media bringing stories that move us connect us and challenge us to audiences around the world from her roots in storytelling to her current mission of nurturing the next generation of creative leaders she brings vision depth and mentorship to every stage of the creative process but what makes this conversation special isn't just her resume it's the way she's navigated an industry that hasn't always perhaps made space particularly for a woman a black woman without hardening or disappearing and without selling out who she really is Yana welcome to the show how are you today oh my goodness that that is people always say when they appear on podcast or interviews what an introduction oh my God it is a beautiful a beautiful way to be introduced and I'm honored and I'm so happy to be here and meet you both great thank you very excited to have you um full disclosure I've known you for ages um and we met through who is now my ex partner and we've been zigging and zagging in our lives um we live such kind of seemingly different lives um you're very social and you know extroverted and you're in the media and TV and I'm pretty much live like a monk um but yet we have such a deep connection you know a human connection and I really appreciate that with you you're one of the rare friends that um I can have that with and I wanna say um I wanna ask you firstly your journey you know spanning from BBC News to founding your own business Bloom Time Media how do you think your early experiences shape the way that you approach your work and and even storytelling and creativity today early experiences well I suppose um my career began in a really conventional way it's only now I'm realizing that you know we've all got our story about how we fell into our careers and how we you know how where where our a life our lives blossomed but for me it was quite conventional so you know I was a drama and media student at uni and I felt like the media would be the right place for me to be and also you know when I was 13 I did one of those career assessments and they said you need to be in communications cause you like to talk and you love socializing so um here I am but at at during those days I thought you know you're young I was in my early 20s finishing uni I wanted to enter the industry on my own merit and the truth is it's not what you know it's who you know and my mum said you've got to call Uncle Al he works for the BBC anyway I resisted and resisted and eventually sent a little message to Uncle Al who was one of Mum's best friends from the sixties and um uh you know within a week two weeks I had a job at the BBC because there just so happened to be an opening but going back to your question um I was brought in to work on a show called Black Voices and uh it was during the 80s when sorry it was 90s actually by this stage during the 90s when really we had come to this stage of understanding that we should be as one you know I certainly had that that that way of thinking and so I was a little bit unsure as to whether going on to a show called Black Voice would pigeonhole me and I had a huge fear about that I was luckily enough working on all the main shows too so I was you know becoming a broadcast journalist and working as a reporter but Black Voices also where I sat um and I made it quite clear to the managing director that I would like this show to be for everyone um sure we've got to reflect and embrace the black community's experience but also shouldn't we be sharing that with the with the broader audience and so look eventually after a lot of toying and throwing it became Saturday nights with Gino Humphrey and Yana Groves and then later Saturday nights with Yana Groves which sounds like I was ego driven not at all I genuinely genuinely wanted I have this sort of fantasy you know fairyland where we there's no race and we're all one and we're all equal so my career began there it began with that sort of battle I suppose or or leveling of where I stand so cut to today I've probably spent the last 30 years avoiding that incident or avoiding that situation or avoiding having to have that discussion so and here we are hmm ha ha ha ha interesting interesting you know it's interesting when this opportunity came to you and it's it's you know I almost hear a little like I really appreciate what you said I wanted to make it on my own merits and you know I teach teenagers and I mentor teenagers and there is a sense of they want to prove themselves they wanna work hard and they wanna earn it and deserve it but that foot in the door that someone you know or relative could help you to get you started and then this particular show that you were offered really launched you to another level of hosting your own show but that hesitance of like do I want to get pigeonholed is this how I'm seen and sometimes we're not we see ourselves and our roles and our capabilities different than other differently than other people may pigeonhole and see you and make assumptions about what you're capable of and where you would be a good fit so tell me how you you said that you spent the next 30 years trying to avoid that kind of situation again so has your race your gender your background not been an issue in the other shows that you've worked on since and in what they expected of you uh it has not been oh gosh this is a broad broad question we all know that racism prejudice exists and it's alive and well um I'm very fortunate to have been brought up in a multicultural background in a multicultural family of multi faith multicolour um and that has given me a very sort of broad perspective on humanity and how I move around the world I'm very proud of my race I'm very proud of my culture I'm a mish mash and a mix of all sorts and you know that muttness is what makes me unique and I'm super proud of that um however like you say avoiding it for 30 years means all I want to feel when I walk in a room is that I'm seen as Yana now again that's very idealistic I'm not the beholder I'm not seeing myself walk through a room into a room but that's how I present myself and that's how I like to be received so the jobs that I've done you know ranging from as you mentioned Angie talk shows to uh cooking shows to big brother you know social experiments to um you know uh documentaries you name it I want and always strive to be accepted as me on my talent on my skill um and and my personality and you know that's my worth that's how I see it now recently I um was so blessed to be invited to be head of Creative Diversity at SBS uh SBS being um our uh you know broadcaster multicultural broadcaster here in Australia who really really has spent the last 50 years carving out a space for multiculturalism uh here and has been waving the flag of you know intersectionality and acceptance for all these years and just is building and building on that so it was a real honour to be asked to be head of creative diversity um and and that's the first role I've had where my background probably played a role in the wrong so to speak um and what I found was that and I genuinely believe this the majority I believe that the majority of people do want um they want to have that sort of equity Equality they certainly want to be seen to be making all the right moves to make it happen I think where we come into into sort of conflict is actually putting things in place to create that greater you know um harmony so to speak um and being able to get to the point where someone's walking in a room and you don't see race first I also have a theory that genuinely you know we're human beings and we have inherent prejudice you know it comes from an innate space and I see that and I and I acknowledge it and I'm always learning about this I'm you know I feel like this isn't I don't have a a a a staunch belief in how to operate in the world apart from I just have to be me but what I am learning about is how other people perceive me and so through through my career um I have had a couple of moments incidents but I haven't let it bear me down and I haven't let it dictate how I do my job and um you know especially in today's climate I am more and more aware of who I am where I'm from and how where I sit in the world so all I all and I think this also comes from my fascination with storytelling and and working with people and telling people stories because we all have those different perspectives and views you know yeah I I think it's a really rich place to come from I think you were it you were onto it from a very early age like this is me this is who I am and I don't see any difference and for me the same you know I grew up in a multicultural family um I got called Packy at school um because my skin was slightly darker than everyone else's so same for me I I've never look I I don't see race and it's weird to even though I'm listening to myself saying this I never have seen race I just see people um but there is you know there is prejudice whatever we are identified with self as colour or race then there's going to be prejudice and we live in a dualistic life predominantly unless we're you know working on our self realization and so um would you say that it is changing like is it easier do you think in the industry for um representation of multicultural diverse diversity or or is it something that is more of a ticker box or more of a well we're saying it is but really nothing's changed cause I know in law um they say everything's changed but really it's still a very male dominated industry it's very patriarchal it it's um you know it's an institution that has not grown with the times this is the eternal question it's eternal and I've been you know myself engaged in so many and watching so many podcasts on on this perspective what was fascinating about the role that I took at SBS was being at the coal face of those decisions um and you know really through advocacy and working with state um government agencies at with broadcasters um with you know independent organizations to really find out what is the research what's the data what is it so what we what we were attempting to do and what SBS continues to attempt to do is to create that um a balance or a reflection of the population right um that is I believe easier said than done and it takes a long time to do so in the UK currently I think I understand that there's 8% representation of um let's say people of colour um uh on screen as opposed to I think 6% of the population it's something like this I need to check my stats uh which is incredible I mean and how proud am I and you know of of our our you know birth country that there is some kind of parity there it's wonderful and is that through you know measures sorry can you hear that is that a problem no OK alright ha ha somebody's literally soaring next door um that's a beautiful space to be because really what why wouldn't we want to have representation based on population my concern and and these are discussions that I've had often my concern is just like when I started do I want to be hired because of my skin colour or do I want to be hired based on merit now how do we get past that if I'm going please don't hire me because of my skin colour hire me because of my skill but equally I can help to make sure that my background race is represented there has there's there is both in the UK and in Australia so much infrastructure to build that that parity there's infrastructure there's policy there's paperwork there's data analytics so this is where Australia is which I believe is you know and and and everybody knows is a little bit further behind than say the UK or even the States whether my industry is getting there or not I think slowly but surely in Australia because at least the conversations being had and so what I was able to do was to speak to production companies and say um look this isn't a question of of you know you having to fill out forms or having to tick these boxes just do what's right it's common sense do what's right yeah um you know to amplify voices of those underrepresented so that's really and once you start talking like that it stops becoming so jarring because rather than being you know the police who you know you're policing them how many numbers have you got did you find that First Nations representative you know do you have somebody who you know um has disability issues in order to make fulfilling beautiful transferable timeless stories you need representation and you see it like there's a production company called Bus Stop Films which really looks at um a plethora of abilities and the incredible work that comes out of this relatively small production company it is amazing cause you know disability stories are often not told or certainly not not told in um in the in I suppose in a raw way in a real raw way we're not hearing about experience you know what I love seeing is when people are are included in film uh or television not as the token but as a human being hmm yeah and so as as the owner and the like the head of your own are you have your own production company now or is it something okay so how do you go about choosing what films you work on like what are the stories you want to tell that are important to you hmm well I work in unscripted so unscripted is like reality TV is that the same as reality TV sort of you hit the nail on the head what I so you know I train and mentor people just like you I teach and so the first thing I do when I walk into my reality TV and entertainment class is I cross out the word reality and I write unscripted okay because it's less polarizing um I think you know even me I cringe a little bit when I hear the the term reality but there are so many different ways to explain it so it's the kind of the same thing yes you're absolutely right um so um in unscripted I for me a story is a story hmm exactly person is a person exactly so it for me it would it would feel really strange to okay let me twist this a little bit on the one hand I with Bloom Time Media do development so I work with um people come to me with their fabulous ideas and I do my best to create something that will work for broadcast so people might come to me and go I wanna make a show about bananas I'll go great let's make it entertaining let's make it you know comedic and let's make it sellable right so um when I'm creating my own shows I don't think of you know oh gosh I have to have a show representing the Chinese community or I have to have a show representing the Spanish community I don't think in those terms a good story is a good story however um when I'm cast and this is beautiful casting now especially in Australia has now adopted the understanding that we need diversity and and there's a conscious effort to ensure that a broad spectrum of voices are heard they're all look casting in itself the the whole the definition of casting is representing you know you're representing your audience really so you know I don't know if you've heard of a show called Love Island yes I my daughter I watched Love Island and Below Deck I've never watched either of those shows I really am a huge fan of Love Is Blind that's one of my favorite I love Love is Blind oh my gosh every iteration of it I'm obsessed although I have to say the Japanese version was my absolute favorite ever because culturally it was so so different than the American version or the UK version and it was just it was really delightful to watch cause you just anyway sorry that's in a side but OK so love island you know what I like about my job it's moments like that where people go oh my God I love it people get excited and you know what there's also connection around it so when when I watch reality TV and my daughter watches and my two nieces watch and we got my mother to watch and my sister to watch we all are in a family group chat so we'll watch episodes and be like don't take don't no spoilers yet but tell me when you get to this part and what do you think about so and so and and it just it's it's something very fun that we could share actually so there's that part that I love about it as well it is absolutely about connection and you are hitting the nail on the head so if you're sitting there with your daughter and you're watching I don't know uh the Japanese version which I'd I'd I can't wait to see myself but even the American and the British version you will see a combination of backgrounds nationalities also archetypes right casting is built on archetypes the shy one the brash one you know the rich one the poor one the funny one the serious one we've got we have we build all of our shows on archetypes because we want to reflect our audience and we want you to connect with one or two or three of those those characters so that's key in context right so it just depends on the the type of the show it depends on what it is so um I love that it becomes a more conscious so unconscious decision in casting rooms because it becomes the norm and I've been lucky enough to see that happen even in advertising and I have moments quite often just walking in the mall where I see an advert for a lip gloss and it's a black woman a black young woman and it blows my mind because I've not seen that in growing up and I I to this like it's a new thing for me and I don't hear people talking about it cause maybe people aren't noticing but I certainly do that I feel I'm being represented you know in media in advertising you know so so we're certainly getting somewhere definitely um I love that and we interviewed faith as well faith of Google and she oh yes she was saying um you can't be it unless you see it and so I think this is a big part of what storytelling does what media can do what TV can do is show and reveal what other people um you know the diverse range of lives that are that are available and going on um and in that way bringing that representation of the truth of humanity all of it not just the glitzy and the glamour but but everyone and everything so I wanna take a bit of a left turn here um and ask about ask you about how you help ask you about how you help modern creators you know contemporary creators who are looking to break into this industry which I understand has a lot of rejection changeable trends as intense competition how can they stay deeply connected to why they wanna tell the story in the first place you know without selling out um and maintain their sense of integrity as you have been able to do your whole life I wanna say instinctively I'm really glad you you mentioned this and it it does actually tie in with what we were discussing um we want to create or I am passionate about creating opportunity and really in my role as head of creative Diversity um we were facilitating um internships and attachments for people who might be underrepresented so um within Bloomtime Media and what I did I started this eight years ago uh and I'm super passionate about as you say about giving people an opportunity and opening doors to a career in TV I am the spokesperson for the adventure that is a life in television it's not easy but um I want everybody to have the opportunity of experiencing what I've experienced and what I've seen and tasted and smelt and and felt all the way through my career I I'm really you know I know so many people who've left this industry because it's not easy it's bloody tough um and and you know we especially now we're probably at the worst it's been in my time at least anyway um people are losing their jobs left right and centre the majority of freelancers are struggling financially um I know that about last year I think there was something like 72% of freelancers in the TV industry in the UK were out of work similar thing here so I want to ensure that if you are going to choose to enter this industry come armed with the tools be ready because and and I've excuse my metaphor but I love a metaphor um I've come up with or I wrote a a chapter in a book called how to Run Away with the circus and what it does is roadmap um how to survive this wild wild industry and what to pack when you enter the entertainment world so you know I talk about being aware of you know the wild animals because there are lions out there and they will bite you so pack a bulky bite suit you know um uh bring your I don't know your safety net because you'll be walking a tightrope of you know feast and famine you'll be you know working to deadlines you'll be bleeding from your eyes and if you're lucky ha ha you'll make it to the other end if not you might fall off but be ready to be you know have something catches you so that you're safe so I talk about these sorts of situations because I don't I would love someone who to have talked to me about the dangers and the pitfalls and what to expect you know rather than me waking up at 54 going oh my Jesus I flipping out I better get my pension sorted ha ha you know so that sounds like very practical wisdom right that and that doesn't take away the encouragement to dream and to see yourself completely you know having a you know a successful career in something you're passionate about I remember I listened to I love to listen to um call you know commencement commencement addresses like when people give speeches at colleges for people graduating from university and there was a speech that Jim Carrey gave and he was talking about his father how his father worked his whole life in a safe job that was secure to provide for his family and he never pursued his passion because it was important to do the smart responsible dependable thing and then in his 50s he was let go and you could so Jim Carrey's takeaway from this was you know you can fail at something you don't love why not pursue something you love because so you might fail at that too so just go for it but what you're doing in that piece of writing and what you're doing in your mentorship is giving people like the the what to have in your pocket and in your back like what to pack along with you as you really pursue your passion and your dream and you know if you fail and you have to revision what you're gonna do that's okay but at least you went for it exactly yeah and you know it's a I've met so many people and I love that example by the way that's that's a great example I've met so many people who say oh oh I've always wanted to be a TV producer oh my god I've always wanted to oh I wish I had I thought I would well let's not wish anymore just do it and and I also hear people say oh but it's too competitive I will say this even in this climate when budgets are zero and productions uh all are halted and there are very few there are great productions by the way there's some great things being made but not much the volume is way lower than say 10 years ago the mentorships I've run in the last eight years I have a 100% success rate in getting them jobs wow so even and it's and it's not like I said it's a combination of what I experienced with which is what you know and who you know so it's having the the tools and the knowledge of what to expect when you walk into a production company how does it all work what does it mean how do when we say unscripted what does that mean can I make shows that I'm interested in you know I'm interested in glass blowing yes you can there's a show for that can I make a show about making swords yes you can there's a show for that so you know there's something for everybody but just know this is an industry full of ego it's full of ego and competition yes there is competition but you gotta be in it to win it and when I introduce people to the gatekeepers of the industry of course the gatekeepers want those introductions they're really excited to meet someone who's keen and interested so I look this is 100% success rate so far it doesn't mean that's necessarily gonna be the case for everybody and I make no guarantees but I what I'm saying is it really really works to give someone the opportunity to see an adventure ahead of them and bloody give someone a chance I mean you know and I'm all about that you're making dreams come true and what you do with your Blue Time media with helping mentoring people into that industry you're bringing your wisdom so that they come ready with all of that wisdom so you're giving them the leg up the massive leg up and um it's quite amazing that you've had such a success rate in such a difficult industry and I think any anyone wanting to go into the industry if they're not getting mentorship by you or or anyone else I don't know if anyone else is men doing this kind of work cause I don't it's very rare then then they're missing out and also that other aspect that you do which is to grow people's dreams and make them reality bring them into a you know a material reality and you know you've worked with me on my my concept for the documentary which was invaluable and so I think you're doing amazing work now looking ahead where do you see where do you personally see media and storytelling going um because you said you know it's at an all time low what it what is your sense of what's going on in the industry in the world you know I talk about we're shifting into an Aquarian age which is all about being able to do it ourselves and you know so what do you see for the future well I have as you know gone through the riding haha of this wave we're all on it hold on to your bridges cause here we go um as we know it's gonna be an interesting year when Covid hit um it was another one of those moments for all of us we didn't know what was going on uh I did a little Facebook Live called how to come out on top what the beep to do next and other unanswerable questions ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and I feel we're coming into a similar time now and I have you know like last year I was at the Screen Producers Australia um conference where I moderated a panel and you know most discussions were about what's next holy moly what what are we gonna do did it did it Trump tariffs etcetera etcetera things really are impacting our industry podcasts and you know lives and people I'm talking to it's all a whirlwind of panic I believe we just have to pivot we just have and it's that word again we have to pivot there will always be demand for real people stories it's inherent in us as as as human beings from the moment we could communicate we were sharing each other's stories so that we can learn and grow and pass that on to our next generation it's in it's in it's in us it's inherent um the fear obviously is the advent of AI um yes it's going to change the face of how we operate there's no question however AI can't tell the story of a real person the way a real person can tell a story so that's the authenticity is more important now than ever and so the future just means that we're looking at different platforms to tell our stories you know this beautiful podcast for example is springing out of that need so you know thank god there are people which willing and happy to share this authenticity um because it's needed so desperately so so there's that you know it's not the old model sure the model's changing it's not about having four channels that you watch

and the TV switches off at 7:

30 I remember that going going orange a little bit ha ha ha um it's not that it's a different model now so we're moving more into streaming and YouTube what about YouTube it's amazing I love YouTube as a platform it's amazing I love it you know what I see with um did you see my husband yeah I think he's forgotten that I'm on a podcast what I see working with youth is that everybody's creating their own content right like these these kids from the time they're 11 12 13 they're creating content now I'm not sure they're always really using the best you know the the thing about it that's great is that it's creative right they have a sense of ownership I can add the music and figure out who's in it and what we're doing and the dance moves and what platform I'm using and all of that kind of thing um I think that there is something about the Aquarian age where we take ownership back and say I I'm a creative human being I have a story to tell this is the platform or the app or the format that works for me and I can create it I think that that's beautiful but I think we're always going to need professionals who are skillful and really have integrity around holding that space for the human experience on a higher level of consciousness which is where somebody like you comes in right there's a different level of integrity and understanding and humanity to that so thank you for doing that I wanna as we're closing out um and reaching the end of the show I do wanna ask you what are you doing for yourself that is playful and fun because it sounds like you really do love what you do and that your work also has an element of fun and joy and creativity but in your personal life what other things light you up um well my husband who you might have just seen appear here yes we did yeah uh we call him the Viking and and boy is he a Viking uh the Viking got me a karaoke machine for Christmas what's your go to song huge speakers and microphones and I literally can't believe this is happening and this is a pinch me moment so I love a microphone you know just stop me um I love to sing so um I trained when I was younger way way younger for many many years and you'll understand this when I say this to you Robin but in the states I used to compete in county trials you know choir choir competition sure sure so I was 8th soprano in the state of Pennsylvania it was like oh yeah in New York they call it nysma but yes yes they have like every state has their youth orchestras and chorus and you have to try out in different levels and beautiful wow but since then you know 30 years of all the stuff um my voice isn't as angelic as it used to be but I still have the passion to sing so I do a bit of singing in fact we've got an event coming up called Bleeker Street Nights you know Bleeker Street in New York of course I do I used to hang out there in my teenage years I went to school in Manhattan and I would go down to Bleeker Street all the time right so my my New York friend my New Yorker friend um has created this event where we you know we all come together original musicians play their music and I do a little bit of MC and belting out a tune here and there so me singing for me is everything singing and dancing actually cause I do Zumba as well I love I just I like the physicality of joy you know so fun if we're ever in the same continent at the same time and place I would love to party with you because I also love love karaoke there's a local brewery in my town and they host karaoke nights and I'm always trying to drag my friends and my family there and nobody really really wants to go and every once in a while be like please for me come on let's go and I love to dance too so so much fun so much fun let's so we need to get on hop on a plane Angie Angie loves dancing too and singing I know you have an exquisite voice okay you do the album that you put out was beautiful yes she does yes thank you I think for me singing um it really opens the heart um when we sing it opens the heart and it's a beautiful expression of self you know music singing dancing moving the body it's important especially for women um'cause we tend to walk rigidly and not honor our curves and the cycles and seasons of life and dancing brings that back for us it brings us back into our feminine um so we could talk forever Yanna thank you so much for your insight your generosity and your truly deep commitment to elevating stories and storytellers and um being that human bridge not just for entertainment but for helping creators maintain their um dedication to the work it is a work it is an art form and just think about you know all the times when we've had war world wars and we still had entertainment we need it is a basic human need creativity the arts is a basic human need imagine life without music or dance or entertainment it would be we would all be dead absolutely and so thank you for reinforcing that um need and joy and you know that message of we just need to evolve with the evolution of humanity and paradigms it's just an evolution it's another cycle of evolution there's nothing to worry about so where can people connect with you how can they explore your mentoring your the work that you do so um well please check out my website um Bloomtime media..com I'll say that again without tripping over my tongue Bloomtime media.com ha ha ha and also I'm really happy for people to DM me you know if you wanna reach out on Facebook I know I'm old school Facebook uh you can check out my Instagram but um yeah I mean you you can email me as well ygroves at bloomtime media.com so just let me know because we actually are running a platinum producer course at the end of Feb and there are only I think we're only doing 10 to 15 spots so but if anybody's interested this is a two day intensive it is so cool people come away going being mind blown because I bring in industry experts you know these are the leaders in the industry who are the door openers and I feed the information and you know growing the next generation of talent amazing thank you so much for your time your expertise and your work thank you for having me thank you for all you're doing is tremendous thank you and this is the wisdom we share thank you so much for tuning in to the wisdom We share podcast we hope today's episode sparks some new insight imagination and practical tools you can integrate into your daily life continue this journey with us by subscribing sharing and dropping us a review until next time stay wise

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Anjani Amriit

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Robin Wald

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Yana Groves

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