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What Is Wisdom? How to Tap Into Your Inner Guidance for Clarity and Self-Trust

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Message us with your thoughts, burning questions, or reflections, we’d love to hear from you.

In this episode, we decided to do something a little different and just sit down together for a conversation.

We’ve heard from so many of you that you enjoy these more intimate, reflective exchanges, so today we’re going back to the heart of what this podcast is all about: The Wisdom We Share.

Together, we explore what wisdom truly means beyond information, beyond knowledge, and beyond what we’ve been taught. We reflect on how wisdom is something lived, felt, and accessed from within, and how each of us can begin to trust our own inner guidance more deeply.

Throughout our conversation, we unpack the difference between knowledge and wisdom, drawing from our own experiences, as well as spiritual and philosophical traditions including Vedic teachings, Kabbalah, astrology, and more.

We also explore what it looks like to move beyond the “small self” and into a more expansive perspective, one that allows us to access insight, clarity, and truth from a deeper place.

Most importantly, we share practical ways you can begin to access your own wisdom in everyday life.

✨ In this episode, we explore:

  • The difference between knowledge, information, and true wisdom
  • How lived experience shapes wisdom more than external learning
  • The role of self-reflection, contemplation, and discernment
  • How different traditions understand wisdom and consciousness
  • Moving beyond ego and accessing a higher perspective
  • Why we often feel disconnected from our inner guidance
  • The importance of curiosity, humility, and deep listening

🌿 Practical ways to access your own wisdom:

  • Spending time in silence and stillness
  • Meditation and breath awareness
  • Reflective journaling and self-inquiry
  • Reading and contemplating sacred or meaningful texts
  • Engaging in reflective dialogue with others
  • Chanting or using sound and vibration practices
  • Finding a mentor, teacher, or study partner to challenge your thinking


This episode is an invitation to slow down, tune in, and reconnect with the wisdom that already lives within you.

You don’t need to search outside yourself for all the answers. Sometimes, the most powerful insights come when you pause long enough to listen.

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SPEAKER_02

Wisdom has no age and it has no race and it has no gender and it has no sexuality. And wisdom, I truly, truly believe that wisdom can be found anywhere in anyone if we are open to receiving that. And I in, you know, as someone who works both with the elderly and with youth, I have learned deep, deep, profound wisdom, you know, out of the mouths of babes and out of the mouths of 90-year-olds. And there's we all have wisdom within us, we all have wisdom to share, you know, and it's really, it enriches us when we stay really open and curious to that.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the Wisdom We Share podcast, where ancient truths and modern intelligence weave together to inspire, ground, and shape us for a wiser, awakened life. I'm Angene Amrit.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm Robin Wald, and together we bring you fascinating conversations from the worlds of spirituality, science, and human behavior so you can connect to your own inner wisdom, joy, and clarity, elevating the way you actually live your life. All right. So we're here today for another episode of the Wisdom We Share podcast. And what Angini and I thought we would do today is have a conversation with each other because we've heard from some of you, our wonderful listeners, that you really enjoy the conversations that we have and the insights that we bring to the table. So we thought we

What is wisdom? Defining the difference between knowledge and lived experience

SPEAKER_02

would just go really down to basics. You know, the title of our podcast is The Wisdom We Share. And we've had incredible guests sharing all kinds of wisdom across many different fields of psychology and business and relationships and spirituality. And Anjanine and I love those conversations. They're so rich and meaningful. Obviously, you can go back and listen to some of them if you haven't. But going forward, we would also like to have a few episodes where we are just having conversations with each other and sharing our own perspectives and our own experience and the wisdom that we each bring to the table. So we thought we would jump in today and talk about what wisdom means to each of us and more specifically also how we personally access wisdom. You know, how do we trust our own inner guidance and our own inner wisdom? And we really hope that this conversation will open something up for you in terms of, you know, how you tap into and listen to your own inner guidance and wisdom so that you can have even deeper trust in that and share that with the world in your own life. So, Angini, let's start by let me just ask you, what does wisdom mean to you?

SPEAKER_00

For me, it's really simple. It's the difference between knowledge and something that we feed ourselves so information. So we spend a lot of our time at school growing up receiving information, receiving data, and having our intellects bring on and take on a lot of data and information that's repeated and then processed and then regurgitated. And that's important for us to be able to function in the world. You know, it's like this is what the world is about, and this is what you need to know and learn to understand how the world works, how society works. It's really important. But what is often missing, not always, but what is often missing is that part of our mind, our brain, that requires reflective contemplation. And to me, the difference between knowledge and wisdom is knowledge is something we are told, and wisdom is something that we receive from our own internal discernment, understanding, or experience. So it's around processing of data, which is knowledge, which doesn't actually evolve us, it doesn't evolve the self versus spending time in contemplation, spending time in self-reflection, self-awareness, so that we can come to our own conclusions in life, reach our own conclusions, and receive inner guidance. And what does that mean? Inspiration that comes from the word Latin, inspiritum. Inspiration means to receive clarity. So an embodied experience, a lived experience where we go through a challenge typically will bring us wisdom. We'll say, Oh, why I just went through that thing, and you know, we'll tell everyone around us, avoid this because it'll land you in this. So that's more wisdom. It's it's both lived experience, and it's also as we get really good at it, it's about knowing things that we haven't been taught. We just know we can tune into the collective consciousness.

SPEAKER_02

So I have so many thoughts in response to what you shared. I love a lot of what you shared, and I there's certain things that I think about a little differently. So, one thing that what you spoke about, the difference really distinguishing information and data from wisdom, what came up to me were the archetypes astrologically of the sign of Gemini versus on the opposite 180 degrees across the zodiac, the sign of Sagittarius. So Gemini is ruled by Mercury, which is about the movement of ideas, knowledge, information, facts, data, language, and how we communicate that, how we learn it and how we process it in the mind. But then the higher octave of that is Sagittarius, which is about integrating that information and that knowledge into something that has a sense of spiritual meaning and purpose, and into elevating it to help us arrive at something that feels true on a spiritual soul level for ourselves. So I correct me. I mean, I don't know, is that similar to kind of what you're understanding, the distinction? Um, I just, you know, think about it in those archetypal astrological language makes sense to me. Does that resonate?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, 100%. It's it's elevating our consciousness from just information about the world to our own interpretation of it and our own experience of it. And I think that's a beautiful way of approaching it as well. There are many ways to understand wisdom because it's not something you can pop a pin in, you know, it's something that we each come to in our own way with ourself. And it's even something that we ultimately, for me anyway, in my experience, it's something, and and from what I've been trained in, which is more the Vedic yogic sciences, is that we start to have ultimately and eventually shift beyond even our self-identification into something that is more connected with everything. So we start to have realizations that yes, I'm an individual at one level, but on another level we are all deeply connected. And that is a sign of wisdom for me, from my understanding, is when we can understand we're all connected, and that, you know, they say if a butterfly flaps its wings in, you know, the forest, then how does that affect climate? Well, it does, and you know, they've had lots of scientific research lately on mushrooms and trees and how they communicate with each other. There's this really deep scientific evidence of even plants communicating with each other under the ground, and that wisdom we can tap into, and science is starting to tap into that. That it's it's even it beyond biological, but there's something else going on. And in yogic terms, it you know, there are two aspects, there are four aspects of the mind, but two main ones, you know, is the manas, which is sensory processing mind, and then chitta, which is a memory storehouse. And so these two are the aspects that are receiving information, you know, data, news, social media, scope scrolling, those are the things that bring us data. They're a repository of impressions, whereas

Understanding the “small self” vs higher consciousness

SPEAKER_00

wisdom comes through the Buddha mind. This is in Vedic science, which is the faculty of discernment, discernment as to what is true for me, what is clear for me, what is my truth, what is my experience, and not my as the as the fourth aspect of the mind, the ahamkara, which is the identity I've taken on, you know, the identity of, oh, I am Angeny, and I am a podcaster, and I am female, and I am a mentor. It moves beyond that into something more holistic where I can perceive both. Yes, I have all of those aspects to a personality, and there is something much greater that is able to witness that identity, that is able to observe that identity and not be so attached to it, you know, to sometimes unsubscribe and change it and evolve, allow this being to grow and evolve and see something greater in the world. So I'd say that they're all interconnected.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you for sharing the yogic tradition and languaging around that. And yeah, I think that that higher perspective. I mean, you know, my business is called cosmic wisdom coaching. And the whole idea is that I bring different intuitive tools and you know, the astrology to the coaching process to give us access to a higher perspective or a soul perspective rather than just an ego-based perspective. Because one of the traps, the thinking traps that human beings often have, which keep us playing very small in our lives and limit us or appear as obstacles towards really having the kind of health or happiness or abundance that we're seeking in our life, one of those traps is really overly identifying with the small self, right? The small self. And the small self is the part of us that has information and facts, as you said, and interacts with the world on that more superficial level. But the the more we can take a bird's eye view, the more we can take perspective and see from a different angle or through different language, or through, I mean, for better, I'm really lacking the words of saying it, but like a different kind of consciousness. I mean, you've said it in yogic language, but you know, a different kind of consciousness that has us really deeply listen and not just for what's going to serve my ego, what do I want, what are my complaints, you know, like telling the same story over and over and over, but actually listening from a place of possibility, a listening, listening from a place of curiosity, of humility, of I don't already know, uh, listening from a place of faithfulness. What else and who else in the world might be helping or guiding or supporting me, you know, whether it's seen or unseen, right? There's something

Spiritual perspectives on wisdom: Vedic philosophy and Kabbalah explained

SPEAKER_02

on that level that I think does make a profound difference in people's lives and sometimes allow us to get unstuck and, you know, and shift, really shift. I wanted to share kind of as a counterpoint the Kabbalistic perspective of wisdom. Yeah, yeah. Because Kabbalistically, the word for wisdom is chokma. And chochma is it's the second sphera, a lot of complicated language. Anybody listening, you can Google Kabbalistically what's called the tree of life or the eightchaim, and it'll show you a visual graphic of sort of 10 emanations or spheres. In Hebrew, it's spherot, which is just a model for how God emanated God's qualities and self and energies into the world. And whether you believe in that theologically or not, it's a really useful model psychologically and to as a framework for understanding consciousness. So there's the Godhead or the completely ineffable, you know, the highest level. And then the very next level that the first emanation from the infinite is wisdom. But wisdom is not attainable through ordinary human consciousness. It's considered one of the higher spheres that we can only access when we go into some kind of altered or elevated state of consciousness through prayer, through meditation, through fasting, through all different kinds of mystical, magical practices to align and tune our instrument of our body, you know, so that we become a vehicle through which we could reach wisdom. Not simple. Then there's what's called bina. Bina is actually feminine. She's called the mother of all that's in creation, which is also very similar to the Tao. The Tao is referred to in feminine forms as she is the mother of the 10,000 things, right? So it's similar Kabbalistically. Bina means understanding. So these two stand is pure potentiality, not yet manifest. And bina, which is understanding, is giving birth into the world, making manifest all that is potential, all of that that can be known. And how do we actually have tangible access to it now in the world through our human experience? And then what you talked about is discernment is actually sort of like a hidden third sphere, which is considered to be located at the throat chakra. And that's called da'at. And daat is knowing what we know. So knowing and discernment is different than understanding and is different than wisdom in the Kabbalistic. I don't know if that got too complicated or if that was like an interesting thing to consider.

SPEAKER_00

I think I think people who've studied Kabbalah will follow it. I've also studied Kabbalah, and for me, that distinction is the exact same distinction as they have in a Vedic philosophy, Vedic science, which is Purasha and Prakriti. Purusha is the unmanifest, unlimited potentiality of all things, the void. And then Prakriti is the divine mother, and she is the is that that's made possible, that that's made material. And I think what we're both getting at here is that wisdom comes from that higher plane, higher, not better necessarily, but a different plane that is not the plane of the material world. And the Buddha, so out of the four minds from yogic concepts, you've got manas, the sensory processing mind, which gathers information from the world, then you've got chitta, which stores memory from impressions and learned patterns. Then you've got the ahamkara, which is the identity maker, the package of who you think you are, who we think we are. And then ultimately there's the buddhi, which is the faculty of discernment, the mind that understands, that has the wisdom that is beyond, it's beyond the material world that we can tap into. And the great philosophers and the great architects of life, the great inventors of life, to me, were all accessing that buddhi consciousness, that ability to think beyond the pale, beyond the the known, and go into that unknown and bring that forth from Purusha, the unmanifest, into you know, or as Black Adda would say, I've just had an amazing idea. Just had a brilliant idea. That thing is what we're talking about. So I would love that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Hearing that, which which one of the I call them Sephora, sorry, I I'm gonna say it wrong, but which one of those jewels?

SPEAKER_02

Like the like the makeup store, Sephora? Yeah. The jewels.

SPEAKER_00

I call them the jewels, the jewels on the tree, or the apples on the tree. Which one of those would you say compare to the Purusha and the Prakriti?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. So Purusha is definitely Chochma, which is wisdom, and the and the I'm gonna mispronounce the Vedic, the Prakriti is the is the Bina, which is the making it manifest and bringing it into a more conscious awareness that we can access. But what I was gonna say is that so you started to speak about throughout time, there have been masters who've been able to access that wisdom and then really become, you know, prophets, gurus, teachers, authors of sacred texts and traditions. How do we excuse me, how do we in our modern age do that for ourselves? What are the practices? Um, you know, I'm a definite seeker of wisdom. I love to read wisdom texts, I love to read holy scriptures in every tradition. I love it, I love it. I mean, I have like books upon books upon books, and I could never get enough time to learn and read other people's wisdom and traditions and experiences and really try them on and appreciate them and see what really resonates and what doesn't, what reminds me of or awakens in me things that I've experienced personally

Simple daily practices to access your inner wisdom

SPEAKER_02

or that I've also learned through other traditions, you know, I love making those connections. And that's one way of seeking wisdom. I think about like, you know, in yoga svhyaya, right, is the is the sitting with sacred texts or sacred study or self-contemplation until those kind of that kind of wisdom arises. But I'm wondering what other on a more granular practical, like what wisdom do we have to share with our listeners as things that they might try on in their own daily practice that would help create that access?

SPEAKER_00

I I think what you just said is is is granular. It it really is reading ancient texts, reading texts, books written by masters, because there is so much wisdom in there that they are wisdom teachings. I call them wisdom teachings, where we can then receive the wisdom from those just by reading those sacred texts. So they could include, for example, the Bhagavad Gita, you know, a very famous ancient text written by seers, yogic seers, who saw the future, who could see the future, and they had an oral tradition to start with, and then they ultimately started writing these things down. The Bible, I don't want to be controversial here, but the Bible, not the literal modern interpretation of it, but the original interpretation of it, the original scriptures are full of wisdom. And if if we take time to practice some self inquiry and ask ourselves, what does that mean? Because these ancient texts are actually written in almost like prose. They're not to be read literally, they're to be read and interpreted, and that's how we get the wisdom by interpreting the Stories, it's it's understanding the self not through more learning but through self-reflection. So I'd say that self-inquiry around reading texts, meditation is an obvious one. Even just sitting in silence, just being quiet, not speaking, having a time out, reflective dialogue, which we are doing right now. We're having that reflective dialogue, we're exchanging ideas, you know. That's traditionally how we how we grew in wisdom traditionally when we didn't have the kind of technology that we have today, which spoon feeds us information, but doesn't allow us to have that self-reflective practice. And also there's mantra. Mantra is the repetition of sacred sounds, then it's not a language per se, it's a vibration. And as we repeat these sacred sounds, and one one that everyone knows is om, which is the sacred sound, they say, of all of creation. All of creation is represented and within the sound of om. So just chanting aum will bring us into an alignment or vibration of all of creation, which we can then tap into. So just literally a granular level, sitting and chanting om 108 times is something that we can do practically in a in a really busy you know day. We we're all busy, we're all we're not monks living in caves. But those are the kinds of practices that you know I recommend with my clients that actually help them still their mind, silence the inner chatter, that noise, the

Choosing the right path: Why there’s no one-size-fits-all approach

SPEAKER_00

excess noise, so that they can re-regulate their nervous systems and start tapping into their own wisdom. And it's amazing the stuff that comes out of them once they've learned that process of self-inquiry. And I'll say there's your wisdom right there. You know, they don't need me to teach them wisdom, they just need to learn the practice or a way in which they can access their own wisdom.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I love so many of those practices that you mentioned, and I've, you know, throughout my life tried or engaged with different ones of those at different times or multiple ones. And it's it reminds me of the episode we recorded with Roger, who I absolutely love, the let your mud settle. Yeah. And he talks about, you know, we asked him, like, you know, it could be overwhelming, and there were so many practices that you can choose, and so many paths that lead us to the one, lead us to the truth, can lead us to wisdom. How do you know which one is right for you? And he said, just choose one, choose one and start and be curious and be open and you know, do the practice. And then if that one doesn't work, then try another one or try another one. But it's it's really about taking ownership and responsibility for that journey, right? There are a few things I want to add to the ones that you offered. Okay. So I want to add that in, and I'm not coming from a Christian divinity perspective, but I've studied a lot of Christian divinity because, again, I love to explore all different traditions. And there's an amazing process called Lectio Divina in the Christian tradition. And it's a four-step process for engaging with sacred text in a way that lets it unfold for you and connect on a soul level so that your own wisdom can rise and meet it, right? So there's four steps in that, and I'm not going to say them in the Latin, but one is about reading the just the verse, which you had cautioned around, like, you know, not like the verse isn't just a literal, like, oh, it says this. So I have to do that, or I'm a bad person, or I haven't followed the rule or the law or the teaching. There's the literal sense of the teaching. So read that first. That's a great place to start. Then there's the reflecting on it. Well, what do I think that means? How have I come face to face with that in my life before? What else does that remind me of? What else might I what other questions do I have about this teaching? Do I understand? So we reflect about the text. Then there's the responding, which is really engaging in a critical thinking way for ourselves with that, challenging it, right? You know, what does that mean? And is this right? And does this go far enough? Does it not go far enough? What might be the secret underlying the literal level? What is the relational? What is the vibration of it? What is the mystical kind of secret hidden there? What else might it mean? Again, wisdom being unmanifest potential. What else is potentially true and possible around this? And then the last part of it is to rest with it, right? That that kind of sacred rest, like giving ourselves time and space that allows things to integrate, right? That we don't have to always rush and grasp at. And the thing I'll add from the Jewish tradition with to this practice is the idea of what's called chavruta. Khavruta comes from the root word khaver, which means a friend. And the practice of khavruta is finding a study partner. So this sometimes we can tap into our own wisdom through study and through self-reflection and contemplative practice and breath and personal prayer and chant and everything you mentioned. But there's something very amazing and additive that happens when we practice in a good partnership with someone who can hold up a mirror to us and who can reflect back to us and challenge us. There's a great teaching which says find a vruta partner, a friend to challenge your assumptions. Right? We need somebody that we're in relationship with who's going to push us beyond our own limited thinking to consider things from another perspective. So I think that's also the benefit of working with a mentor or a guru or a teacher or a coach, because that's another trusted partner in your own growth and wisdom. So that's my addition to it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, 100%. And that's the whole ethos behind Vedic philosophy. It's contemplation and it's about getting together with other seekers and testing out a concept, you know, reading a concept and then getting curious about it and testing each other and looking at, well, what is possible here? What are the meanings and exploring all of the meanings? And there are different forms of yoga, and that's jana yoga or wisdom yoga, where you learn through reading sacred texts and then understanding, coming coming to a different understanding about what it's what it's saying. Another form of yoga is bhakti yoga, where you offer your devotion and in return you receive the wisdom from your guru, your teacher, through devotion. So you devote your spirit to your higher self or the form of the divine. And that's how you receive wisdom. So there are different types of yoga, and yoga means union, it doesn't mean necessarily asana, which is an one small aspect of yoga, it's a much greater field of self-inquiry. And you know, there's one really famous powerful teaching in the Bhagavad Gita, which says you have the right to action alone, never to its fruits. You have the right to action alone, never to its fruits. So what what does that inspire in you? What does that invoke in you? That teaching?

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's really to me, it's very much about non-attachment, you know, that we do things, the intention with which we approach something really matters. And it matters more than what we're going to what we think or hope or, you know, or wishing we get in return for our efforts, right? So all we can be responsible for in any given moment is how I bring myself into this moment, how I show up, what is my intention? Where is my heart? Where is my attention? What am I focusing on? What am I learning? What am I doing? My action in the world. And really, the future is going to take care of itself. Like that, we're not in control of that. We're only in control of ourselves in any given moment. So, you know, that's what it speaks to me is uh just also like a again, a faithfulness, a surrender, a choosing things for the right reason, and not the right reason, but like a reason that really on a soul level connects to, you know, again, your highest, what you're trying to bring forth. And then also allowing, oh, this is what makes me. There's a great teaching that it makes me think of. Yeah. There's a teaching from the Hasidic tradition, yeah, which says don't ask the divine to give you what you what you want and think you need. Ask the Tavan, the divine to bring you what they think you need, right, for your own growth and for your own soul. So it really is like as much as we want something, I'm gonna take this class and learn this thing, and I'm gonna, or I'm gonna do this practice in order to, right? And a lot of us, we're human, right? And I I I'm the first to admit, I do my morning practice in order to start my day feeling like I've accomplished the most important thing, to start my day a little bit more calm and grounded before I start rushing forward into the busyness and all of the to-dos on my list to create a sense of serenity and calm. I do my practice because I know that there are inherent health benefits and I want to be healthy. I want to live a healthy life. So, yes, I am doing my practice selfishly. And there's also the just trusting that because I've done my practice, the universe is gonna give me whatever it wants to give me anyway, which is whatever, you know, and I'm not really ultimately in control of any of that. But doing my practice then also allows me to meet that as it shows up, as it arises with more grace, maybe. Right. So I don't know. Is that what what does that bring up for you? The teaching from the Bhagavad Gita or the trusting the divine to give you what the divine thinks you need.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think we are programmed to be results driven. And that is the what Invadic calls the lower mind, which doesn't mean worse than, it just means there's a there's a lot a distinction between a lower mind and a higher mind and knowledge versus wisdom. And I think that in the beginning, definitely, when we first start to practice self-inquiry, where very much results are different. I know I was in the beginning. I, you know, I wanted peace, I wanted to improve my relationships, I wanted more money, we want the stuff, right? And then and then ultimately that can evolve and morph into a becoming or a or a process of sitting with self, you know. So it's it's it and and anything along that spectrum is taking us to more wisdom. Wisdom that, you know, all the wisdom that just came out of your mouth around your practice, and that's self-awareness. That's wisdom. Self-awareness is wisdom. Having an awareness beyond our identity is so is so rich. It enriches our life. And I think wisdom itself is something that enriches our life. If we can take a moment to just step back from our life, to look down upon this identity that we've built, you know, from psychosynthesis, it calls they call it the I, the real I, or the real true self, versus all of our, as Ramdas would say, psychoses and insecurities and fears, which are the remit of the ego or the ahamkara, and it's beyond the machinations of the brain. And we we're not gonna go off into consciousness. I'm not gonna go there because that's such a massive field. We might do a podcast on consciousness. But I think if we try and pull it pieces together, we're looking at the difference between us receiving information and knowledge, which is important for us to be able to perform in life. It's kind of like building our personality, building a sense of self that brings us a sense of security and daily doing. And then ultimately, when that's stable enough, we can then start to slowly let that go, ironically, and start to be curious and be more playful and more contemplative, and allow ourselves to evolve beyond that structure, beyond that framework, and contemplate life and receive wisdom so that we are reflecting and having insight, which is taken from what you were saying. Looking at it from a neuroscience perspective, there's different systems of the brain. I don't think neuroscience knows the whole picture, it's discovering some amazing things. But mem it's the difference between memorizing information versus deep reflective thinking and insight. So repetitive learning activates the hippocampus, and I think it's the temporal lobes, which involves storing factual knowledge, and we need that, otherwise, you know, we'll go around going, who am I? What am I doing today? Which, you know, as you get older, I do have those senior moments, versus reflection and insight, which is what we've really been talking about on this episode today, which is involves the prefrontal cortex, which is primarily linked to reflection, ethical reasoning, having a different perspective, taking different perspectives. And what we haven't touched on is emotional integration as well. That's the prefrontal cortex. That's it's that's what it does.

SPEAKER_02

I am not gonna respond to all of the parts of the brain and what they're responsible for because I can never keep those details together. As fascinated as I am by neuroscience, I don't memorize the technical. But I think that it's you're making really good points about really there's just different ways of interacting with the world and some ways bring us deeper and feel like we know too. We know when something really hits, when something's superficial. And people, you know, we get together with friends and they're all talking about just very temporal, day-to-day, mundane stuff that feels like if I never heard this conversation, it would not have impacted my life one way or the other. You know, like uh blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And oh, I went to the store and I saw this and I bought that. And did you see this TV show and blah, blah, blah. And then there are conversations we have or things we encounter that really deeply, profoundly matter. You know, they matter on a heart level, on a soul level, on a relationship level, on a inspiration, like you spoke to before, inspiring me to become a better human being, to shift my behavior in some way that I hadn't thought about. So, you know, I think that's what we're looking for, those openings, those openings that light us up. And I do want to say, as we're bringing this conversation to a close, that wisdom has no age and it has no race and it has no gender and it has no sexuality. And wisdom, I truly, truly believe that wisdom can be found anywhere in anyone if we are open to receiving that. And you know, as someone who works both with the elderly and with youth, I have learned deep, deep, profound wisdom, you know, out of the mouths of babes and out of the mouths of 90-year-olds. And there's we all have wisdom within us, we all have wisdom to share, you know, and it's really it enriches us when we stay really open and curious to that.

SPEAKER_00

Amen to that. And I think in a world where we are constantly encouraged to know more, you know, to feed the intellect. And maybe we'll leave our audience with this. What practices help us see more clearly beyond the data, you know, so that we can move from intellectual accumulation to inner realization. So on that note, let's wrap up. And this is the wisdom we share. Thank you, Robin, for sharing your wisdom. Thank you. And hope that our listeners can take this and start to tap into their own wisdom and trust that. I think it is a journey of trust. Thanks. All right.

SPEAKER_02

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