WFNG and the World of Tomorrow

Not only does Supergirl have to deal with depression and human traffickers; she has to deal with opinions and assholes online. Her and Lupe Fiasco have that in common. Is Hollywood loosing its touch? Or are Crazy Fan Demands and the never ending complaints the real plot to the world of tomorrow?

WFNG - Where the Culture is Free

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SPEAKER_10 1:51

I do a little bit to look at it. This, that, and the other thing. Right. So now, man, um you know, the hero, not the heroes y'all need, but the heroes y'all deserve.

SPEAKER_07 2:14

Ooh, that's how you do it. That's how you do it. So um, yeah, man. Um, lot to talk about. Um, yeah, yeah. Stuff to catch up on. Um yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So uh before we get into the deep shit. Okay, let's let's let's start off light and fluffy. Jindy, Jindy, what's his name? Jindy Tarsta Kavaski, the dude who did um, you know, me with my tongue, man. Heist, he's doing this series called Heist Brothers. Okay. Same guy who did um, you know, what's that samurai Jack? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, he's also doing um Okon and the Barbarian um animation as well. Yeah, I'm with that. I'm with that. Yeah, I'm with all of that.

SPEAKER_10 3:08

So um, especially if it if it maintains its brutality, yeah, and it's honest with it, like it's yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 3:15

You know, because this is other show called Primal that's on HBO Max. Um yeah, Primal was good. I watched uh both seasons, yeah, yeah. So I'm still catching up, but yes, very good season, very good series.

SPEAKER_10 3:28

It has no it has no words, none, none, and that's the jewel. Yep, that's the sweet spot. It's it's two things you do. You either Quentin Tarantino, that bitch, guy Richie, that shit with dialogue, or you or you John Wicked.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Do you know how hard it is to write a script? I mean, do you have you ever written a script? No, Jake, I haven't. No, you haven't. So go outside, write a fucking script, then come back in, then we can talk about it, okay?

SPEAKER_07 3:54

And John Wickett, you know what I mean? Just silent, and then it goes with the time, it goes with the whole setting of the story, and yeah, like you said, it's a challenge to tell a story with no audio. Indeed, in this day and age, it cats throwing attention as well. So, yeah, that's that's pretty tough.

SPEAKER_10 4:13

Yeah, I think that's the I think that's the challenge. Um nowadays, things are we're because we're going into such a uh uh ultra visual, everything is AI now. Everybody thinks people people at the point where they think CGI is AI, yeah, yeah. Because you know, people just don't know any better. But I think the creators, it's important for us to scale back. I understand. So I mean on every level, like so film like let's go back, let's challenge each other to make silent films where there's no dialogue. There you go. Let's see if let's see if yeah, let's see what you can do with that. Let's see if you can um bust the key in that bitch, right? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Let's see what you can do with that. Let's let's scale back the music, let's get to the bare essentials of music, let's get to the simple, like you know, blues three-piece. Somebody on the drum, you got somebody on the bass, the guitar, you done. Yep, yeah, done, son. Let's let's let's strip everything back to the rawness because without all the razzle dazzle, what's what you what's left? What you really made up. What's left? What's left? You know, you can't you can polish a turd if you ain't got if you ain't got no sheen, you ain't got no shinola, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09 5:28

A turd is a turd.

SPEAKER_10 5:29

A turd is a turd. Yeah, so I I I'm I'm with all of that right now, yeah. And I think that um we'll we'll as we get into the conversation today's topic, we'll we'll see how it unfolds because I think we're witnessing the health, some movies are hitting that sweet spot, a healthy balance, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I think um the movies. Well, let's be real, man. And I and I have to be blunt about this because you know, 85% of the people are blind, deaf, and dumb. And that means that they're very simple-minded and complex issues, whether they're social or political, economic, you know, entertaining, it'd be going over their head. Like the average gamer misses Hideo Kojoma. Right. Or Kojima, excuse me. They they don't get him, they don't get his games. Right, right, right. They're not playing silent heels. They're they just want to run and gun, you know. Yeah, run and gun and that's a there's a place for that, right? You know, there's a place for that type of stuff, but you know, the complexities, the nuance, you know, Maxie's favorite word, nuance and context. Yeah, you know, the nuance and context in life allows for there to be, you know, room for all of it. And I think that people are simple-minded, but they think they're smart.

SPEAKER_07 6:58

And that's because they're feeding, they're getting fed information from resources, and these resources now is looking crazy out here. So um, you know, there's a there's a fiasco amidst us. Let's just get into it. Well, we can start with the let's start with the fiasco. Which one? Lupe. Lupe.

SPEAKER_10 7:18

Let's start with lupe fiasco.

SPEAKER_06 7:22

Shout out to him. Shout out to Luke's man. What's good, man?

SPEAKER_05 7:27

Lupe show, man. Like, you arguing with these niggas. Come on, our show, man. What's up?

SPEAKER_10 7:32

Let's talk some real shit.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

Um real shit, bro. Like, you ain't gotta do all that, man.

SPEAKER_10 7:37

Because these guys are looking for they're looking for the razzle dad. Yeah, they're looking for the razzle.

SPEAKER_07 7:43

Anything, I mean, because I mean, from what I saw of the lupe thing, I didn't even finish watching it. He got on this dude. Um, it's not worth it. He got, but not because of Lupe, yeah, yeah. See, and that's because the conversation was going nowhere, it was going nowhere because one person is honest, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 8:03

Lupe is being blunt and honest, and you know, lupe is a sharp cat. Lupe ain't one of them fools that we was talking about earlier.

SPEAKER_07 8:10

So stupid, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 8:12

Nah, so he catch you, you yeah, he you set the trap and he spring the trap with you in, and you sitting there, like, how did this happen?

SPEAKER_05 8:21

He's bugs buddy, dude, because you know sitting in the trap, you're like, Well, yeah, ain't nothing wrong. And then you're standing there with the chair, like, man, what's up, doc?

SPEAKER_10 8:29

You know what you do to yourself, you know what I'm saying? And and so I love Lupe for that because you know, cats be trying to cats be trying to play the drama and trying to play into these things, and like they be trying to exaggerate things that he says, because and here's the truth of the matter Lupe is an intellectual, and dumb niggas can't relate, so dumb niggas.

SPEAKER_07 8:51

And that's the beauty of watching these interactions because that's why I see the intelligence is like shockwave versus motherfucking uh Fred Flintstone and shit, or Gremlock, just for another example.

SPEAKER_10 9:04

Yeah, Gremlock.

SPEAKER_07 9:05

You know what I mean? It's like shock wave versus gremlock, you're like or rumble.

SPEAKER_10 9:09

Nobody calls sound wave and cries of match.

SPEAKER_06 9:13

What word are you talking about?

SPEAKER_10 9:14

Simple tin. Simpleton. But yeah, like these like we talked about this before. One of the one of the gifts that we have when we do our interviews, whether it's the flies on the wall, live on the wall, like all the way back to Pharaoh, we've done all the greats. And it's it's like number one, if you asking questions that I that could be answered by just listening to the last guy that interviewed me, I don't even see no point. There's no point.

SPEAKER_07 9:45

If I could just go on YouTube or do any creative or listener, I'll see peep that, and I well, I don't want to put the secrets out there, but you know, we think differently. That's all, and we look at the different aspects of artists and artistry. So when you coming down chopping it up with us, you chopping it up, you know what I mean? Like ain't no no interview, we interview Earth's um situation.

SPEAKER_10 10:12

No, these are exposes that we these are spotlights, you know. And I think that what the reason why Lupe doesn't like to do interviews is for that very reason.

SPEAKER_07 10:23

Yeah, and this is people be people be trying to with like Sway.

SPEAKER_10 10:27

He I seen good interviews where he's done with uh yeah, but Sway is also a real is thorough, sway the real one, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that's that's the thing. Like if you got a chance to talk to Lupe, we're talking about the man who is teaching a class, a fucking physics class, like it's crazy science, yeah, yeah. He's breaking down, he's using like mathematical formulas to explain explain hip hop culture and rhyming. Yeah, yeah. And and you wanna you wanna challenge this man on his view on Kendrick Lamar.

SPEAKER_07 11:08

It reminds me of Dark Knight when uh Lucas Fox said, So dude, and you want blackmail, uh this is the man you want to blackmail? You want blackmail?

SPEAKER_10 11:18

You figured out you got all this right here, you know, all this, and this is what you want to ask. Because you think that you know, because because Kendrick Lamar has fans, aka fanatics, um, that that means that you know, if you talk, if you get Lupe talking, it could draw attention and everybody gonna tune in when it's lupe's not gonna give you that.

SPEAKER_07 11:42

And I'm glad. Yeah, I'm glad for that. He don't dance to the drummer at all. He don't shut the job, he breaks all the walls down, and um, he's very doing that. Yeah, he is. Y2J, man. That's shutting the shit down. That's what that means. Shutting down, yeah. You know what I mean? So, you know, he has that approach, he's very intelligent, and um, I just want to rather have an intelligent conversation, talk about some of the mathematical equations. That's shit I'm into. It's like, yo, what do you you know, what you went to? All this, like what you tweeted and all this other talk, man. That's a waste of time.

SPEAKER_10 12:20

I mean, respectfully, you know, we in okay. First, let me just let me caveat this. First of all, you know, there was pride, it was pride the other day. So, you know, there's a lot of people outside wilding.

SPEAKER_07 12:32

Shutouts.

SPEAKER_10 12:33

I mean, we had it, we've had a few weekends of wild shit going on. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_07 12:38

Good and bad, though.

SPEAKER_10 12:39

But yeah, yeah, that's and that's what I'm saying. All that to say is that we need a little bit more loop out here in the world.

SPEAKER_04 12:48

Judging quality like Australian airport, souvenir shops can be a weird opt to undertake a younger cake, we'll avoid it altogether, like a winner home, escaping fall of weather, but bought a sweater. My business bone is connected to my ethics, and a series of daisy chain preferences that I filter things through, just like a checklist and a much wiser bride pie with spouses on the top, such as I now happily apply these metrics to the set list on the surface temperance, but in the back of my mind they go together like a necklace. It's like the whack of the rhyme, the more I'm drawn, like a text avery baby. They think maybe the genius in it is that it's not really good. Maybe it could be. Would he have only suggested X and Y and Z. Various other advice to him for me to animate the change to the level of Mr. T. And I get his gangster boo like Memphis, Tennessee, huh?

SPEAKER_10 13:35

A lot less outside. And so when you get a little baby, you got a chance to take some seeds from Lupe's garden. You know what I'm saying? To fertilize your soil. You know, what's like you got? Like, I don't want to see, I don't want to get so whoever you were talking to. I don't I don't know dude, so I can't really comment on nothing about dude. This ain't about that, but it is about the motive. Yeah, yeah. I will, um, I it will be I will talk about the motive because the motive was clear and Lupe caught win real quick because he's swift and changeable. He don't play that shit. He came in, so he came with the cold current.

SPEAKER_07 14:20

He shut that down.

SPEAKER_10 14:21

He came in with the he came in, and like it was like, I, you know, he was like, Nah, you said that. Yeah, you said what I said was this don't don't play with me, you know. And he's done that so many times, which is another thing. It's like, what kind of interviewer are you when you don't even know your audience? Like, this man don't play that with nobody. He's done it, he's chopped and diced and sliced with his sword.

SPEAKER_07 14:45

Greatest in the lease. He he's seen it goes through him. Hey, remember during that uh what's the blip, the covet blip? Yeah, when he was online, man.

SPEAKER_10 14:55

That might when he was on that one um whack ass. Um well, he was on that theory, yes. He was on that social media shit, yeah. That one that everybody was talking together. I forgot it was called because I never liked it. Well, anyway, he was on that the hotline, hotline, but I seen them break down fools.

SPEAKER_05 15:16

He had this bar put on glasses before this two was breaking.

SPEAKER_07 15:21

He had people imagine you argue with someone and you're getting his ass so good, he had to put on some glasses and do some research real quick. Like he was like, Wait, hold up, hold up. You had to put the Homer Simpson glasses on. Let me see what I can see.

SPEAKER_10 15:40

That's actually funny.

SPEAKER_07 15:42

Lupe, um But there's but there's two sides to that too. So what's the basis? I mean, what was the point of it?

SPEAKER_10 15:51

Um, I think the other side of the conversation is is that um Lupe is in a great space in in life. You know, he's he's been he's been deep in his practice, he's been working out hard, you know, put on, you know, masked, you know, bulked up, you know, saying gains and whatnot. Right. He he doing the classes, he teaching, you know, he's making waves, he's making moves in a very uh critical and important way culturally. He's impacting minds, and he's changing he's he's changing the the frequency of people's thinking. He's elevating people, he's educating people, he's civilizing people. And the world don't know what to do with that. They they they know what to do when with the person that that parades who who portrays himself as the great civilizer, the one who talk all the talk, all the rhymes, is and he's our black messiah, blah blah blah blah blah. He's the greatest ever.

SPEAKER_07 16:51

He's the wrong with this but but then like Lupe in real life is doing the real shit, he's doing the real work, humanitarian work and real work in the culture and rap scientists, like he's scientists out here, like gee, get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_10 17:09

But he said he is he said rap genius, he said he is the rap genius, he is like he said they you know he said rap genius could just retire on him, yeah, and truthfully and rightly so they could. I'm not gonna argue with that statement, you know what I'm saying? Like that's not to take away from other people, but you know, I'm always put Chicago first because we already know other cities spend all their time online sucking their own dick.

SPEAKER_07 17:35

Right. So that's Chicago first, so that's always gonna be Lupe is that dude. Lupe is that dude, and he's a swordsman. Like, run up if you want to. Like, don't get fucked up. You know what I mean? Like, don't get fucked up. But right now, I ain't even trying to wish that on him. I'm just talking about like lyrically, man. Like well, see, that's that's the conversation.

SPEAKER_10 17:58

Come on. He needs the Lupe didn't have never has never had his moment.

SPEAKER_07 18:04

Because see, he I understand why he fired his shots, I understand his frustration, but the thing is, it's just like this movie we're gonna talk about, man. We you gotta come on, man. It's time to ride. Like, gee, if you're gonna go go out here with Megatron on the on the side, dude, you gotta be star screaming thundercracker, bro. Like, it ain't no lesser. You gotta suns out, guns out. Yeah, man, you gotta come out here now because it's too much shots getting fired, too much intention going out. You gotta shut these niggas down. Like, even if what he says is true about what he's talking about, I mean it's true to him, and that's the whole point.

SPEAKER_10 18:51

And uh mind you, we're talking about a scientist, so this is a person who's already done the theoretical work. So he's done that, you know what I'm saying? He's already done the theoretical work, he's already yeah, he tested his theories already.

SPEAKER_07 19:04

So if you got if you got proof, present the proof, present the evidence, and that's what people don't have equations, so he's doing the math equations, breaking down other people's shit, and just be like, That's trash. 100, 100.

SPEAKER_10 19:21

He, you know what I'm saying? But for real, like when he said what he said, the statement is clear. He said Lupe, he said, he said Kendrick is a great uh songwriter, he has great production, he has a great team behind him, but he is not the best lyricist by far. That's what he said. Now, if you if you extract emotion from the conversation, how you feel about them, how the songs make you feel, because how the songs make you feel attribute to he's a great songwriter. See what I'm saying? Different than lyrics.

SPEAKER_07 19:58

That's a different conversation. What would you put Nas then? You know what I mean? More lyricists. No, no, no, but forget Nas.

SPEAKER_09 20:06

Let's just stay on Kendrick.

SPEAKER_07 20:07

Oh well, let's stay on Kendrick.

SPEAKER_10 20:08

We don't even gotta do no comparisons yet, okay, because Nas don't even wouldn't be the one I would compare him to.

SPEAKER_07 20:14

Well, I was gonna say I mean lyric lyricism. There's certain people that goes into he's wordy, he's wordy, he's wordy, but that doesn't mean lyricists, like that's what I mean. Like Nas Rakim, shit. I could even put motherfucking ice cube, like these are lyricists.

SPEAKER_10 20:31

Nah, I'm going beyond that. I'm going to the va kills.

SPEAKER_07 20:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 20:36

Like Vakil will murk all them people you just named. Taiwan will merk all them people you just named. See what I'm saying? No, home homesteads. Yeah, the like we don't have to leave Chicago to like because when it comes to MCs and lyricism, actual skill, like the full range of skill. Like, where is he on the like now? Now let's talk. Let's then now let's remove Chicago from the equation. Let's just talk about oh man, come on.

SPEAKER_07 21:08

All right.

SPEAKER_10 21:08

No, let's let's just put him in the in the in the California space. Okay, are we saying that he's better?

SPEAKER_07 21:15

No, see, let's go to Hyrule. Yeah, I was gonna say no one, no one on there, nobody.

SPEAKER_10 21:21

Let's go, let's. I mean, it's interesting to really get into the conversation, and I'm saying remove the emotion, remove the take away the production, take away the polish, take away all right now not saying a younger bad, but saying, but we're talking about when you get to the part of saying he's better than better than you can say you he feel makes you feel like he's the best. That's great. That's the can that's that's the opinion that everybody can have who your best are. You know what I'm saying? That's a great opinion. I don't care. It's I don't have any argument against anybody who thinks that's his he, he's he could be your favorite. That don't make him better than other MCs. Doesn't even qualify as an MC if he said. Yes, he does. He does qualify. But now let's get in, like then we that's why I say when you get into the science of it, so we get into bar structure. Right? Okay, yeah, never mind. Never mind. Let's really like when you really start getting into MC and let's get into the level of the level of um metaphor, the level of entendre. How deep does it go?

SPEAKER_07 22:29

Concepts, um, storytelling. He's got all that.

SPEAKER_10 22:32

Um, he's got the storytelling, he's got the concept. Yeah, he checked all the boxes. But is his rhyme, are his rhymes really more complex than a daylight? You know what I'm saying? Are his rhymes more do they have more oomph, more texture than black thought?

SPEAKER_07 22:56

Uh no, because I mean with black thought, he's particular with his words and how he pronounces words and his diction. Same as Kendrick as well, but um black thought though, man. He just black thought. You go into the abyss of raps, it's over, man.

SPEAKER_10 23:15

But I but I understand that what people attract to him for. Like, again, we're back to if you're like a lot of people, they allude, they associate him with with black excellence and black black success and black black consciousness.

SPEAKER_07 23:35

We're talking about rhyme structure, right?

SPEAKER_10 23:37

Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. Remove all of the things, like all the things that people say that make him great.

SPEAKER_07 23:42

Because no one ever record label shit. This is dress up, this is an artist, this is you know I mean, this is still record label.

SPEAKER_10 23:50

Well, that's what Lupe was talking about. He said the team behind him, the production is polished, everything is perfect, and you know, he's got the best, you know, whatever's the best scenes, the best interviews, the best everything. I think I think he has energy, I think he japs out, but like I told you, even amongst his own crew, I put Abso and School Boy School Boy above him.

SPEAKER_07 24:12

I brought with school boy number one for me, out of the whole abso, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 24:18

Like, so I put all of like in like they're all in that together, and out of the and yeah, school boy to me is the number one, yeah. But I don't mean I don't like Kendrick, no, not at all. It just means that I I recognize but when school boy drive, I'm saying that's what I'm saying. I'm super, I'm super geek. And so just to put that out there, that eliminates the whole thing of your bias because you don't like LA. Nah, I love LA. No, I love LA, I love California MC.

SPEAKER_07 24:47

Cut it right there, cut it right there. When it comes to Chicago, when it comes to Nacrobats, we have a heavy West Coast influence, G. Like I said before, countless times, Pugs introduced me to AC Alona Freestyle Fellowship. We have an artist, young open mic eagle. He was a part of Freestyle Fellowship when he lived out there, probably still is, you know what I mean? Like, we are West Coast driven. I like the E40, you know what I mean? Like, I they always came with styles, Snoop and then Dog Palindre and all them is cool, but I'm talking about the MCs over there, you know what I mean? Like AC alone, like I said, Grouch and all them motherfuckers, like those the West Coast niggas, Dale, the funky Homo sapien, man. First album. Um, wish my brother, was it wish my brother George was here? Yeah, no need for alarm, all that shit, comic book cover, second album. Get the fuck out of here. So, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_10 25:45

And even the current artists is cold, like they don't it don't stop. And see, that's what I'm saying. I I respect industry artists, I do, and everybody and the whole thing Lupe was trying to get at was that from his point of view, from his assessment, from his theology, his doctrine, there are MCs that are better.

SPEAKER_07 26:06

He said he ain't talking about industry MCs, he ain't talking about hundreds of the scale and scope of MC and there are a hundred MCs better. And I would I can easily say yes to that myself because I could attest to that too. Like, just think about the battle circuit alone. Think about the battle circuit, and then think about the MCs who's just on the street level, daredevil niggas, yeah, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_10 26:32

Right, the these dudes, the punishers, and no, you know, like you say, the street levels, them it's dangerous ass out there.

SPEAKER_07 26:41

You don't want those level niggas because them the niggas they don't care, they ain't got no song, no nothing, but they'll burn your ass alive. G you don't want I seen countless street he has he has great wordplay, he has great wordplay, great wordplay, great way to put together words. Sometimes it could be kind of weird to me sometimes, in in regards of um what he chooses to do. Um it's his own little thing though, so it's cool. Um, but it's still I don't want to take no honor from it, but West Coast, like like I said, school boy cute come in, you feel a whole attitude.

SPEAKER_10 27:22

It's a whole different energy. West Coast, like you feel what it's like you like it feels real, yeah. For whatever reason, I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 27:30

Whatever, I don't know, but this is songs be deeper, heavier, and they hit harder to me. And I like what schoolboy talk about because he brings this certain, like you said, if it was it was like a West Coast beanie seagull, so to speak, if you want to think about that in a way, but that's the kind of feeling I get.

SPEAKER_10 27:52

And and let's let's let's keep Kendrick in his class with his with with his with his alumni. Like you like I like there are songs lyrically where like I'll and notwithstanding, remember what what homeboy said. He said everybody in the industry got a team behind it. Right, absolutely, you know, shout out to um shout out to Twilight. Shout out to Tone Tone and he broke it down. So when you really get into that, and we was talking about you know, ghostwriters and people helping you write songs, and everybody from Yay to whoever got a group of people that write with, he said all your favorites. So now we get into the conversation of like, okay, so now if I already if I I had a conversation with somebody where I said I felt like Drake's lyrics is better than Kendrick's sometimes. There are songs by Drake, smoke a lot of motherfuckers, but because Drake also does the party hardy songs, people try to play him like they did LL during in the 2000s. You just drink going, baby, be good. Right, like LL can drop a bomb on you, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 29:02

So Kendrick Kendrick got the one, he'll smash your face in the sand like a jelly bean.

SPEAKER_10 29:08

Like you don't even hear that. But people said that Drake, or he don't write his own songs. But now the the theory is if that's the case, none of the industry cats write their own songs at that level, and that's the whole thing.

SPEAKER_07 29:22

Once you get to that place, yeah, a certain level, you're gonna have song.

SPEAKER_10 29:25

Yeah, you gotta team, like like Tone said, and to help you with the best word selection and make make sure that the cadence and things are unique and on you got you know, because you because now there's a million people eating off of you, exactly, and they trying to make money, so they're not gonna let you fail, they're not gonna let you fall franchise gotta stay on point, and everything gotta be picture perfect because yeah, you can't have a moment of pain, you can't say the wrong thing, and none of that, right? So, where you get the and maybe that's the difference, you know. When you hear certain people, you could tell, like, you this is all you because can't nobody else come in with that crazy shit you saying, and that's heartfelt.

SPEAKER_07 30:08

That's the heartfelt shit.

SPEAKER_10 30:09

That's the difference, but um, no, but all that old dirty bastard niggas like all right, which is old Dirty Bastard school boy, right? Yeah, see, yep. That's that energy, like ain't nobody helping him write, ain't nobody helping old dirty write that never, never like who's helping you? No one in the history of history ever say no, that's not a thing.

SPEAKER_07 30:32

No, that's not true. I'm gonna take that back. Um, Jizza and um dirty shared songs before, but this is younger, like rhyme book shit, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 30:44

But it's still the whole thing is is that how is he gonna how is he gonna say the rhyme? They would never say rhyme the same. Yeah, they say it their own way though. Yeah, it's gonna be unique. But all that to say, Lupe. No, you no, Lupe said what he said. No one is able to challenge it with any real, real challenge other than it's Kendrick. But it's Kendrick. What about him? What about him? What about him? Like and then he said, he said, if you want to start naming names, I mean, let's be honest. Do we who really thinks Lupe couldn't couldn't terrorize if lupe went on a tirade, like what it would be like what against Kendrick?

SPEAKER_07 31:32

Yeah, oh nah, I got my money on Lupe, dude, because that'll be that's the fight. That's good. That's and this is this is where we get into the thing of like we we've seen Kendrick on when he's off. Yeah, but I seen him off the leash on a fucking puppy.

SPEAKER_10 31:48

I want to see him off a leash versus a set of no no no Kendrick went off a leap off the leash when he thought he was challenging the whole world at a certain point on on versus like control.

SPEAKER_07 31:59

He gave his all that was his best, that was his best, and then he got in scuffle with dude, Dread dude, and then um he showed his ass right there. That's what I mean. But but where what was the memorable?

SPEAKER_10 32:15

Okay, and it's a minor. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_07 32:19

Actually, that's not my memorable. My memory is meet the motherfucking grams. Meet the grams is fucking cold. I love that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_10 32:28

But listen now, think about the and this is the conversation where we gotta go bring fifth in and these and and cast that you know, saying that really love Kendrick because I personally every album don't have a rhyme, like a line, like you know, like um John Wayne couldn't even stand the rain of the tech, like saying some shit. You be like, What? Yeah, wait a minute. Okay, okay, you know, like I don't have that moment that I can remember. I have moments where I like what he said and it and I felt it, like swimming pools, like um Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe. Like he got rhyme or he got some older songs when the Black of the Berry.

SPEAKER_07 33:14

Black of the Berry is one of my favorites, absolutely. Um, but this is gonna be all right. With um BJ Chicago Kid. Um, it was a it was cold, it was like a gospel song, and then like he was rapping on it. Something I forgot the name of it, but his older stuff was pretty more creative than what it is because, like, like you said, it's all factory made sound to me, you know. Let's let's strip it down to the big those records you said are very dope. I love those records as well. Don't get me wrong, and Kendrick has some dope shit, but I didn't like the last album. I'll tell you that right now. I didn't like that last album.

SPEAKER_10 33:54

I don't think we were supposed to like the last album, and what I mean by that is made your point. He had a yeah, he so what Kendrick does, and this is one of the things I do appreciate about him. Every album is a different sound. There are certain artists that do that. KRS is one of them dudes, yeah. I'm gonna come with a different stack steeze. However, however, there there is, and that like public enemy doing a a two-life crew song. That's what that album was. Shirk it shirk it with that album. It was like to me personally, this is just me talking. Wait, did a two-life crew song? That's what I'm saying. If public enemy did a two-life cruise song, that's weird as fuck.

SPEAKER_05 34:47

Shake that shit, bitch.

SPEAKER_10 34:53

To me, it was like almost like it was it was caricature, you know what I'm saying? It was caricature, it's like you have never demonstrated that that style of West Coast sound ever, ever, yeah, yeah. And then you then you went so hard in it that even your twang was too twangy, yeah. You ain't even never sounded like that before, never had that accent, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 35:18

Never. So now you could like you doing all this shit.

SPEAKER_10 35:21

It's like, yo, where did this come from? That's like if Ice Q, when he first did hooked up with the um with the bomb squad, right? And he started having an East Coast accent. Like, what?

SPEAKER_09 35:34

Like, just because you doing so I can't even see Ice Q doing that, he's so nah, man.

SPEAKER_10 35:40

That's weird, but that's what I'm saying. That's what that, but and this is me, my me personally. I don't know Kendrick personally, I don't know what he really be about, and nobody does. I understand what you're saying because everything is a motherfucking stage, and you know, it's yeah, it was you know, you know how to you know how singers do singers will when they want to make a comeback, they like somebody will do like a like a like the white country artist will do a RB album. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what that album reminds me of. Yeah, yeah. It reminds me of like, well, I'm about to do this thing, you know, because I'm on and and and and I'm and I'm gonna I'm gonna, you know, now some other people say, you know, well, he big up the West Coast and he was staying, you know, he was supporting them, and I got people liking that sound from the from that because that was very that was very that was very bay. Oh that was very Oakland. Yeah, very Oakland. That was very Oakland, yeah. And but he ain't from Oakland, so you know, whatever. But I mean, I get it. I get it, whatever, but it sounds very caricature to me.

SPEAKER_07 36:46

It sounds like somebody cosplaying is musical cosplay, that's what it sounded like, is musical cosplay, and then it doesn't match meet the grams, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like you was on this grams, is that nerd shit right there. Like, that's the shit. I thought he was, yeah. That's the shit you want to hear. That's this real shit right there, you know. I mean, all that other shit, like you say, is cosplay. It's cosplay, it's cool, it's great music, like yeah, it's great music, and that's what you face point was. Yeah, great.

SPEAKER_10 37:20

He's a great songwriter, he curates great albums, he has great production, he has a great team. Other than that, though, that's how he ended up on the Grammy in Celine Gent Denim. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Um, that's a team behind him. Well, like, what'd you say when you saw the um shout out to all my um my shoppers and um my people who who do who help other people style, you know, stylists.

SPEAKER_07 37:50

Oh, the stylist when I see it. Yeah, shout out to my stylist.

SPEAKER_10 37:53

He yeah, like you know, we like I see rappers with stylists, yeah. I mean, it's a thing, it's very much a thing. You you you performing, you know, that's a part of the show, you know. Yeah I ain't mad at that.

SPEAKER_07 38:05

You we gotta but that's a it that's a is that's a business, but see, it gets it gets very twisted up because we talk about culture versus industry and industry versus mainstream because lupe is in all of that, right? Like he's lupe is not in that no more, but he was industry because he'll still wear it on his shirt, like look, like he could sell out a tour, and and you know I mean, and still could do records and shit like that and maintain his fan base. No, he's not industry no more, thank god. But you know, he he still was part, he knows the um whereabouts of that shit. He walked those grounds, so um, yeah, it's kind of like being in Olive, you know what I mean? That's why see he know that's the whole thing industry, knowledge, and yeah, just out there, you know.

SPEAKER_10 38:54

So um, like we were talking about how run the jewels, there they've never been industry, they've been independent from the beginning, selling out stadiums, selling out fests, selling out everything, and doing the music they want to do at their by themselves, they had a total of like five five guests on all four of their albums, and I think like two of them was Zach De La Rocha from um from um Rage Against Rage Against the Machine. So, you know, like they they are in their world, you know, they had big boy on there, but that's obvious because it's Mike, but that's family, yeah. I was saying Zach Ham with LP, so that's also family. You feel me? Yeah, they had I think they had Trina on a song, yeah. That's killer mic again. Yeah, well, that's you know what I'm saying. It's like it's interesting that they they stay in their lane, and killer Mike is another one. He is killer Mike is cold, yes, he is, but nobody will dare say it because you don't want to invoke that's like rubbing the genie and and pulling him and having him come out because he will you say his name, yeah. I know he hopes somebody say his name, and nobody will ever him or I ain't never seen that, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 40:10

That confrontation ever. Anyone against killer mike. That would be interesting to see.

SPEAKER_10 40:15

That would like like I would have fun rapping with like the black thoughts, the most deaths, the the the the mics, right? Lps. I I love to rap with them, but like killer Mike battling. I don't know. Like, I battle black thought. I don't know before I battle killer mike.

SPEAKER_07 40:35

I don't know if I battle black thought. I battle black thought because I already peep his nobody who give who who put 24-7 into a record on your ass. That could be anybody, but it could yeah, but I I'm not worried.

SPEAKER_10 40:49

Like Black Thought, I I know what he's gonna say, I know how to do it. It's like Black Thought really don't say too much, though.

SPEAKER_07 40:55

He'll he'll say a little slash.

SPEAKER_10 40:57

He just gotta he just got the he got the flow, yeah. And he got that uh he got that rhythm, he goes. Killer Mike, I would like that's the one I wouldn't honestly, I would rather battle M M than LP. If we don't do it the white M M versus LP, any M M versus LP, I mean I'd rather battle M M than LP because MM gonna say some crazy shit, but LP like LP never had to battle, but M LP has said the most dangerous shit without battling, without going, you know what I'm saying? LP say crazy shit, just casual. LP diction is off the chain, so yeah, it's like it would be great, it would be great because I would love that type of challenge.

SPEAKER_07 41:46

But I think in the in sportsmanship, it's all fair, everything ain't gotta be beef, you know. I mean, motherfuckers chop it up and want to want to battle each other. Then I don't I don't feel no problem with that. Nah, um, it would be I would love to see that it would be fun as fuck. Like LP wanna get like always like Nas.

SPEAKER_10 42:06

I got something for Nas. I ain't worried about Nas.

SPEAKER_07 42:10

I ain't worried about Nas no more. I ain't worried about none of them niggas, but it's like the killers, like you said, like killer Mike and LP Pharaoh, you know, like these dangerous dudes, like these are like the these are the John Whiskey industries, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you don't want to deal with that, you know. Like, like people, let me put it this way casual, you like casual, like nigga.

SPEAKER_10 42:29

Like, nah, I don't want people who have never who have who have repeatedly said the most dangerous, crazy shit, new, fresh shit every time they drop, they push the bar. Them people is not to be trifled with. I ain't scared to know what them see. Ain't no fear, I just know certain people would be like, 'I be too busy, like, damn, he said that okay.' You know, like that's you know what?

SPEAKER_07 43:00

That type of shit will fuel me to even go harder, you know. I mean, because it's kind of like, all right, I know what dude hit me with that. Like, all right, do hit me with that. That shit dope. And then I'm gonna come back. Now you gotta yeah, now I gotta top that shit. Okay, you know, so you know, that's that's that's what I love for it. That's the fun of it, that's the thrill of it, too. You know, the MC and battling and who's better than who, because it's really like you say, it's barbershop top, you know. Um, but ain't no ill regards towards nobody. But as far as skill-wise, nigga, you cool, you know what I mean? You successful, you got it, but yo, I know a hundred niggas that wash you up, and that's what he said, just that simple.

SPEAKER_10 43:44

And and see, nobody said anything when most def put that challenge out there. When most def said, me, black thought, and king lose versus anybody. Yeah, nobody stepped up. No, somebody stepped up, but it and then I was apparently. I forgot who it was at the time, and it would have been some good shit too. I try, I can't remember who it was. I'd have to look it up. There was some talk about it back then where, like, like you know, people be putting out the challenge on some ego trip. Most crazy. I don't know. Most is quiet too because most act like he's having fun. Then all of a sudden, it's like he like he do like over the top and turn the hat backwards.

SPEAKER_09 44:25

And then it'd be a different be like, oh shit, he just ain't um he says no more.

SPEAKER_07 44:29

Oh shit. Other it's like like, yeah, yeah. Nah, that I would rather battle Talib Kwali than most because most is crazy.

SPEAKER_10 44:39

I ain't like I yeah, Talib is another one. You know where he's gonna come from. Yeah, I know where it's gonna go. Yeah, kind of like he doesn't, he's not, he doesn't. He's he says what he says, and within within the Talib universe, Talib says dope shit, but it's predictable. Yeah, yeah. Most is not all the people that are unpredictable, that's what makes the best in this, yes, yeah. Because they could come never know, you know. I'm saying they doing this with the right and then jab you with the left. That's the type of shit, you know.

SPEAKER_07 45:08

Like then translate this shit into a hit on your ass, and then make it a bop, yeah. Make it a bop on your ass, and at your expense. That's crazy work. I don't want that smoke because all them niggas we mentioned can make a bop off of real quick, and yeah, you don't want to give no one that much leverage nowadays, so you know, yeah. It would be it would be fun to uh stay lane rap, man. Stan you're lane rap man, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 45:40

But all that to say, this goes back to I think we need to we need to strip things down. Let's let's let's strip away all the conjecture, let's strip away all the industry razzle dazzle, all the polish, all the things, the theatrics, right? Strip away all the the the chatter online because the chatter online also a lot of people want to follow the herd, and they don't want to feel like the odd man out. So they they they don't they would rather say Kendrick is the best, Biggie is the best, Tupac is the best, because they want to fit in. But I don't really understand that because I'm not like that.

SPEAKER_07 46:17

I'm not we're not like that, sir. And um just all right, we could just transition to the next topic here because um it's a it's a weird, it's a weird place we're in. Um like you said, the internet are hurters, bro, and this shit is like spreading like last of us fungus. Like these motherfuckers will go against and and attack, and it'll be the same opinion at the same time, under the save, same wave and circumstances. It's like real freaky disclosure day shit, you know what I mean? What Kool-Aid y'all sipping on, you know what I mean? And even if you bring up the facts, and I will bring up that later, but um still though, it it it it's like a certain wave of direct hate. Well, you know, like it's it's tear down direct, um direct just yeah, it's just crazy.

SPEAKER_10 47:27

You know, it's it's it's again, we're back to the algorithm, right? Yeah, misery loves company, right? Yeah, if I if and we know this historically, if you if you walk up to a random group of people and say, Man, I'm having a great day, nobody will respond. If you walk up and say, Man, this nigga just tried to kill me. Huh? Like, you know, drama. People are attracted. The magnetism of the dumb is drama, right? The magnet, and and and I'm saying dumb in the sense of the simple-minded, the people who choose not to think for themselves, they are not independent thinkers, they are not free thinkers, they are enslaved by others programming.

SPEAKER_07 48:09

But these are supposed to be leaders, like even before we get into that, we don't talk about influencers. I'm sorry, influencers, and just people in regards. Because before we even get to that, remember that DC blackout thing we was talking about last time?

SPEAKER_10 48:27

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a flash in the pan.

SPEAKER_07 48:32

It was a flash in the pan, and it was like you gotta look at yeah, people who's initiating this shit. Who are these motherfuckers? Is this motherfucker socially outside, like you said about loops outside doing shit? Are these 10 toes down? Yeah, is he 10 toes down in any community doing anything, or he just in the room just on some crybaby shit? Get the fuck up out of here, man. You know what I mean? Like, where's the real integrity of these people? And where is the truth?

SPEAKER_10 49:03

Why these people is just and these regular folks, and that's see that's the thing that the social media social media has done. I had recently um commented that um I realized that social media is a never-ending episode of America's um top home video. Remember that that show? Yeah, home home, America Funniest Home Video. Yeah, America's funniest home video.

SPEAKER_07 49:34

Yeah, everybody think they all and then screen and shit, and now they everybody think they got you want to see this, you want to do this?

SPEAKER_10 49:40

It's like any like I've you giving me commentary on some shit that I could see for myself on like the video that you're putting yourself in is someone else's video, and you're in their video commenting on what they're doing video, yeah. It's like America's funniest own video, Bob Sagitt.

SPEAKER_07 50:00

What the fuck, America funniest hell? Nah.

SPEAKER_10 50:06

And if you really, if you really look at now, if you put that in perspective, so now what is it? What is the real agenda? What is everybody trying to do?

SPEAKER_07 50:12

I'm so tired. There's certain I gonna even call them little heads, little niggas that pop up in my algorithm that I'm tired of seeing.

SPEAKER_10 50:22

Oh, you mean the talking heads, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 50:24

Talking heads, man. Get the fuck out of here, man. With your opinions, I don't care about that shit.

SPEAKER_10 50:30

Yeah, and and and it see, and the problem is this there's nothing wrong with an opinion, but let it be an educated opinion. Yes, yeah. If you just like the need, like again, if you're trying to get attention, you're gonna use shock value, you're gonna say the most controversial thing. They used to call them the naysayers. Everybody like Titanic. I hated Titanic, you know. Everybody like this, so I hate that. I don't do that, you know. And remember, that was the thing with the hipsters. The hipsters hated anything that was popular. You remember that period of time? I remember like it was like early, like late, was it two early 2000s? Yeah, the hipsters came about, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And like the whole the whole hipster thing was they was all emo about everything. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, that's so that was for attention. Those were individuals who were crying out for attention, they would get lost in the sea of of hype, so they would go against the grain. Oh, everybody's over there. Hey, look at me, I'm different from you because I don't like that. I'm outside the box. No, you're not, you're just an idiot. Because you don't even have a reason to dislike it, you didn't even see it, you didn't even see it. And if you didn't see it, you don't have an educated opinion, and therefore, keep that to yourself.

SPEAKER_07 51:49

Keep that shit to yourself, man. And um, and even if you did see it, and you just following the wave or something, because look, I do a lot of observations, I do a lot of shit, I do a lot of research outside of watching the movie and then watching the movie, and um, yeah, you motherfuckers out here contradicting yourselves and looking stupid out here and uh arguing with these people about your opinion and your judgment about what you saw in the movie. If you liked it, you liked it. If you didn't, you didn't. It's all good, man.

SPEAKER_10 52:20

It's just a film, it's just a film, bro.

SPEAKER_07 52:23

Y'all want to put these politics and put your integrity and your brand in jeopardy by just looking like a jackass out here, man.

SPEAKER_10 52:31

So literally, literally. So let's go back, let's go back because it happened the first the first time it really well, not the first time, but of the movies that have come out for this summer season. It started with Masters of the Universe. Gotcha. You know how many people was was was sitting, they like remember, remember on social media? I don't want to see Masters of the Universe, then he man. Well, okay, you like you sound like your inner child is fighting with the with the asshole that you grew up to be. I don't want to see no he man, you know what I'm saying? The inner the inner child is fighting with the asshole, so you gotta you got to prove that you're as an adult. I'm the right, I'm the one that the child has no power. I'm a man, give me a 40 ounce, right? So you're gonna you gotta go online to declare how you don't want to see this, yeah. I don't want to see no he man, no motion. So, what do you want to see, right? Because instead of telling me what you don't want to see, tell me what you do want to see, but you can't do that because you don't know what they want to see, so that's when it comes to because they're not even movie goers, which is my point. You're not a fucking movie goer. Why does your opinion on these movies even matter? You don't that's like that's like that's like a a a person who don't listen to hip hop coming and telling me what they think about a rap song. I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_07 53:50

So that was Lupe's point on dudes.

SPEAKER_05 53:53

He was like, Yo, you ain't got who are see you like I've been rapping how long since I was 17. What about you?

SPEAKER_07 54:05

So how you gonna tell me what to do with my shit? And uh in that regard, that's what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_10 54:12

That's what I'm that's what we're talking about. We talking about individuals because again, everybody wants their 15 minutes of fame, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:18

But stay in your lane, bro. Stay in your lane.

SPEAKER_10 54:21

People don't have a lane because they have no talent, no skill, no ambition.

SPEAKER_07 54:25

Stay out the fucking road. Why the fuck are you in the fucking damn rhyme with a big wheel, fam? Like, get the fuck out of here. You on the damn rhyme with them damn scooters and shit. Fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_10 54:37

But this this happens often because this used to happen with all the great sci-fi. The sci-fi's don't like people try to shit on the sci-fi because it was beyond their comprehension, they couldn't relate to it. So instead of just saying, Well, that's not my cup of tea, I'm gonna ignore it. They go and shit on it. Imagine a bunch of people who don't like romantic comedies, rom-coms, shitting on every rom-com that's about to come out. I don't want to see that, that looks stupid. Rom coms are overrated.

SPEAKER_07 55:02

Who the well, it's not only that, it's people who actually seen the shit and then shit on it. So their influence travels and then well, how do we know that they actually saw it?

SPEAKER_10 55:13

Because they don't actually say anything that reflects the see that's where you got to pay attention. Because embargoes, you can't say spoilers, bro. You can't say spoilers, no, no, no, but it's not the spoiler, it's the group speak, it's the group speak. No one who has said they didn't like he-man gave a good reason, other than the the the tropey things of like Jared Leto, and he was the best thing in the movie, he was the best for anyone who saw that movie. Jared Leto is the reason that that movie, the best thing about that movie, but the person who didn't see it is gonna be like, Oh, I don't like Jared Leto.

SPEAKER_08 55:45

I don't like Jared Leto because I don't like Morbius.

SPEAKER_10 55:48

You don't right, right? That's my point.

SPEAKER_09 55:50

Didn't see Morbius? Nope, I didn't see that either.

SPEAKER_10 55:52

So didn't see Tron Uprising, right? Didn't see nothing. Jared Leto, it's just again, it's the trend to dislike Jared Leto, so automatically Jared Leto is the reason why I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_07 56:03

So then is there a trend to dislike DC? A trend to dislike DC? Are we back on that train again?

SPEAKER_10 56:13

No, we're not there yet. But the thing right now is the trend is to dislike everything. That is the trend. Absolutely. The trend is to just think about it.

SPEAKER_07 56:25

They were saying on thrag.

SPEAKER_10 56:28

Yeah, before they saw thrag, and then then after thrag, it was crickets, it was crickets. That's my point. People are speaking against things they have not experienced. You know, do rag. You haven't experienced it yet, yet you have a negation, which means that you yourself are an asshole. Basically, that's all it comes down to is assholism, and assholeism is popular because we are our country is run by an asshole. So now being an asshole is the cool factor. Yeah, that's it. That's the way to go. The cool factor is now to act like an asshole. So all the assholes are running rampant on the internet because there are no checks and balances, but uh, but again, just to put it in perspective, you know, and I know in real life when I'm out and I'm having conversations with people, I ain't met none of these assholes. You know why? Because the assholes wear white sheets, yeah. They mask their identity in public. They nice, they nice on the internet.

SPEAKER_01 57:35

Hang them, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 57:36

Hang them, hang them, get them, get the shotgun, right?

SPEAKER_10 57:42

So we're gonna have ourselves um picking it, yeah. We're gonna have an old school lynching, so that's what we witnessing. We're we're witnessing assholes in white sheets.

SPEAKER_07 57:57

That's unfortunate because you know, when it comes to creative sparks and things, it can downplay and um it's just negative energy. Like, you know, they always say good press is any bad press is good press, any press is good press, but you know, you you just don't now when you're dealing with a hurt mentality, yeah, and people don't want to be left out of whatever the trend is in the moment.

SPEAKER_10 58:21

If the trend is to dislike the movie, people will I'm not gonna see that because I want to fit in. If the trend is to like the movie, I'm I'm gonna go see it because I want to fit in.

SPEAKER_07 58:31

But the assholes have the mic, but that affects the money because okay, let's just get into super girl, lowest yes office 38 million domestically. Um, UK made 4.1 million, Mexico 3.4 million, Australia 2 million, China was 1 million, and then they pulled the movie off the screens. So um, this was the lower um box office ever, dude. Like this lower than Marvel's Black Adam, fucking Madame Webb domestically, bro.

SPEAKER_10 59:02

Like so Supergirl flopped is what we saying, right after masses. So now this goes into this goes into the deeper conversation.

SPEAKER_07 59:11

That's what I was trying to get at. Because I mean, even so what we saw, what we saw, yeah, is still reflected in the numbers. And it's not a good look.

SPEAKER_10 59:25

Well, so two things come to play. First of all, James Gunn is invested in there in Vest D Warner Brothers is invested in the DC studios, right? What that means is that the next Superman is already greenlit, and all these characters are gonna continue on, right? So that's number one.

SPEAKER_07 59:50

Like, I mean, you know, a lot of people is going down the line and saying, you know, maybe the creators should just be the creatives and let the executives be the executives because they feel like um they're not getting a full. Yeah, I kind of feel this way too. You know what I mean? Like, all right, Peacemaker Season 1 was cold, but that was in the DCU. You know what I mean? Peacemaker season two, that fell flat to me.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:15

Peacemaker season one was the DCU, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:18

DC. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Cavill um Superman and shit. Peacemaker season two was in this new version, right? It fell flat. Superman was cool, but it's still not a movie I would direct motherfuckers to. You know how really I liked it on the rewatch, but it's not anything I just don't want, just because. Um, and then what else he dropped? Uh that's it. Creature commandos. That's it. He's only done a few projects. Creature commandos is cool, but I don't refer to DC. My point is this, man. Get to the shit, bro. Stop cutting the shit. We gotta get to it because you ain't got time to begin these this type of look and these type of criticism over these movies, and you dropping this universe because they're not giving you that grace like they gave Marvel. Marvel is Thor one movie a hitter. Is that movie a dope ass movie? Is Captain America first Avenger even that good? Like, come on, these are good movies, but they ain't the bangers. The bangers is what is what winter soldier boom, civil war, boom, infinity war, avengers. Every movie ain't gonna be a hit, bro. But you gotta get to the shit because these motherfuckers is looking at you now, bro. And and these numbers ain't looking too right, and they they definitely want to put gun under the gun.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:49

So they ain't putting that's what I'm saying. They're not putting nobody, they don't have any power. Well, they don't have the power, but but no, but let me but check it out. No, they don't. That's what I'm saying. Just like Masters of the Universe, Amazon said we don't give a fuck if you if you Amazon making millions of dollars.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:04

Warner Brothers is a movie studio, Amazon is bigger than the movie studio, of course.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:10

But none, but the DC, the DC is bigger than the movie studio, streaming company, they're good.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:15

Yeah, DC are good too, though. That's what I'm saying. When you deal with people like DC, Marvel, and Amazon and these big juggernauts is still under the Paramount deal, bro. But they not they not they're not in danger. There's no danger, there's no danger right now because they're invested for the long haul. They they just getting warmed up, they ain't even introduced Batman yet.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:36

Watch why everybody switch when Batman comes into the DC, but that's still confusing, nah, because I think all right, Batman 2 coming up, he's gonna have Too Faced, he's gonna have Zav in there, he's gonna have a whole bunch of colorful Matt Reeves, got a whole thing. I don't know what you're gonna do. So we're gonna get blue suit, Batman, and um fucking James Gunn. Like I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:58

Probably it's gonna be fine. I ain't worried about nothing with Gunn because this supergirl was great, and so regardless, you know, again, going back to the classics, the cult classics. Like, we was just looking at the fact that Fight Club flopped when it went to theaters.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:13

And now we got fight club too trailer.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:15

No, we don't. That's not that's not real. That wasn't real.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:17

No, that's AI.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:20

That was based on them at the soccer game. That was they was at a soccer game, and that's and and that's what they were wearing, and they were standing near each other. And for the past like two weeks, everybody been doing memes about they should do a fight club too, because it was cool, and you know, making jokes like, oh, look at look at um Tyler, Tyler talking to himself, you know, like doing all them type of joke jokes, and then someone put that thing together. They've never said that that that was not a thing. Them niggas old, like, how they gonna do a fight club? Come on, it's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:56

Uh wasn't Brad Pitt last movie he was doing action in Brad Pitt, yes, but not um wrong with you. We talk about Hollywood's uh Vrestler Stallone still do action movies. What are we talking about? Yeah, but that's different from a fight movie. I don't think why not? I mean, hey, Ed Norton dropped it with the Hulk, man. So you gotta do something, you know. I mean, come on, come on.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:18

Ed is Ed is good on the behind the scenes, if that's but no, but but all these movies I'll be down for that like supergirl was a um was a very intellectual movie. It wasn't about the it wasn't about like she wasn't saving nobody really, she was saving herself, saving herself, and that's can't her the biggest villain was herself, and they didn't want to overshadow that because it was a triumph within herself.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:43

She had is a heroic story and a journey, but she had to fight the demons that was inside of her instead of anyone that was outside. Now, there was demons outside, and there was killing and um taking care, taking kids and women and shit. Some people say that's the Mad Max part of the movie.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:00

I mean, that's that's real life part of the movie, but you know, kids and women being taken, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:07

Yeah, true, true, true, yeah, true. Um, but um, yeah, that was the case. Um, she definitely had to fight the inners of herself, and I think this universe is really centered around crypto as well, because um, he always kind of like got a little storyline going along. Crypto is the anchor, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:28

He's the anchor, he's the anchor because while all the weird shit is happening, this is a dog, and everybody loves a dog.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:33

Yeah, yeah. You know, gun is doing dog shit, so you're doing dog shit, it's cute. You know, he's wilding and whatnot. Yeah, so um, you know, it's cool, it's a story, it's not the best movie I seen. It's not a knock them out the park, but it's not as bad as the internet scene.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:50

No, I still like the I like Master of the Universe more than this.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:54

Okay, yeah, that's fair enough.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:55

That's that's what's that's the funny part about it is like I like this movie, but the characters. In Masters in the Universe were more engaging, it was more entertaining, and it was more shock value in Masters in the Universe. This was I didn't like it. I didn't, there was no moment where I was shocked by something that happened.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:14

And that's what everyone complained is. So that's the basic complaint of everyone is kind of trying to say, even good or bad, dude. It's like there is a stale moment of this movie. There is a lot of things that we've seen before, you know, um, that um was displayed in this movie as well. And um the fact that um like look, James Gunn does have a design of how he shoot and film his movies and shit, but it was still under the umbrella of Marvel. So maybe under the umbrella of Marvel, Guardians of the Galaxy, right? So you can't have your space looking like, and this is what people is comparing the two. You can't have, I don't think it's wise to have DC looking like Marvel. So niggas is looking at Supergirl saying it was reminds them of Guardians of the Galaxy. It didn't remind me of Mar Guardians, though.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:11

It kind of like to me, I didn't see them. Only reason that big people connected to Guardians of the Galaxy or Mad Max is because again, it's back to the simplicity of it, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:07:21

People have to relate to something in the way that they ain't that complex to uh to this like anything else, though. But it's a space movie. I'm that's what I'm saying. It wasn't anything that we haven't seen before, so we have seen colorful aliens of Guardians of the Galaxy shooting guns and having bar fights and all types of shit. Is it has it is a little reminiscent of those things? Don't get me wrong, yeah. But I get it, but I'm saying, but also I'm talking about visual aspects as well because I went into that thought process as well. Like, oh okay, how come nobody compared it to Riddick?

SPEAKER_10 1:07:57

So I don't remember Riddick. Riddick Riddick is about bounty hunters and and and family in this movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:06

Who riddick? Who was the dude? Uh Vin Diesel. Yeah, that's Vin Diesel. Yeah, he wasn't talking about family.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:13

No, Riddick, nah, but I'm saying, like, uh the elements of movies are kind of straightforward. Like, let's use let's like, because the this is what we was talking about earlier about scaling things back. Supergirls scale things back. They took away all the razzle dazzle and made it about a very like there is no different, like if you want to compare it to Mad Max, you can, but you can also compare it to Taken. You can compare it to any other revenge flick. She ain't got a special skill set. Well, yes, well, as we as we found out on the on the bus, she did. She had a particular set of skills, you know, and it's like there's only like there's only so much you can do in in these universes when it comes to um the look, right? It's either gonna look comic booky or it's gonna look ultra serious. So this is where we gotta pay attention to why we don't listen to the mainstream because the mainstream complained when it was dark and it was all Zack Snydery and ultra realistic. Gun come in with the colors and the comical stuff, comic look, and now it's just too come like what the is going on? It can't be both. Y'all can't complain about the Zack Snyder.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:34

Zack Snyder made way more money than this shit on his second movie attempt. But um, if you want to talk about that, because you know why which one is a better movie impact, but which is a better movie? I don't know what you want to say, but Mar um Batman versus Superman, the director's cut is better than Supergirl. I don't know what you want to do.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:54

Batman and Batman versus Superman is if is a fun-looking movie, but it is the worst story arc of all of all the movies that he did in that side of Zack Snyder's universe.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:06

But it I hate that movie in terms of the actual story, like the script of that movie is trash because he did everything, the script was trash, he did it too fast, it was to reverse. He brought in Doomsday and then the Kill Superman all in one movie. Yeah, the Dark Knight Returns all in one movie, and that's their retirement in death movie. That's what I'm saying. So that boy looked cool, but okay, but that brought impact to the theaters, and that brought seats to the people to the theaters, and people see that movie good or bad, and then has some moments. There's one of the best Batman fighting scenes is that warehouse scene. You can look that up and debate if you want to, but um Ben Affleck Batman, but again, that's a scene that don't make a movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:53

But that's that every Zack Snyder movie has a perfect scene. Oh, yeah, great scenes, great scenes, great cinematography, you know.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:00

You know, great, but that but again it's back to that. But again, the trashy Wonder Woman arc, the whole thing of her being in a city for all that time, watching motherfuckers demise and all that, you know, and then she decides to show up at that last random moment, yeah. Right, photos and stuff. If she wanted to, if someone had photos of her, she's rich. She's she's rich, rich too. She didn't need to go in there and it was a lot of, it was a lot of, and then don't get me on the Martian manhunter bullshit. All right, all right.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:38

See, no, let's let's not get into that. So that's that phase, but so but now this phase where we at, you know. Um, like I said, some of these things ain't really leaving too much. Um too much shit in the rib, man. Too much me on the rib, bro. I mean, like, I get it, yeah. You good. I enjoyed the movie too. Great story. I don't think um these numbers match, man. And um, I'm not gonna match because online is already doing their fire, doing their work. Up the fire, up to fire. Give these motherfuckers because you could do it, we're gonna do it, you know. Clayface coming out that has nothing to do with um James Gunn, but um Superman word Man of Tomorrow is coming. Let's get to it, man. Just cut the shits. Let's get to what though, get to what get to your story. Get to get there's already a story happening.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:33

That's my point. People people don't like story, they just want action. Hold on, and that's the simplicity of it. When we when we were talking earlier about the mainstream views and how they complain about everything, they don't like anything. That means that if a movie comes out and it's good and they don't like it, nobody should pivot and say, Well, the studio got to do better. No, the movie was fine, the people are the problem. We've had two good movies come out in a row that people did not go to see, and it's not because the movies weren't good, because they wouldn't know if they were good or not if they didn't see them. And my observation of let's use Masters of the Universe, more people were cheering Masters of the Universe on and saying how good it was than people saying it was bad. Yet people still didn't go see it because they had already made up their mind before the movie came out because the campaign was on. And this is that's time for fillers because remember, no, no, we do have time. That's the whole point of movies to tell to have to have character development.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:36

It ain't about you got competition, you got invincible going on, you got all this other stuff going on, dude. Let's gotta hit because I'm just saying, with all of this shit, there is some eyes looking and having judgmental views about this universe and where it's going, and people are judgmental about this shit as well because they are but there was also judgmental about Rihanna, um you know, Riri.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:58

What Ironheart, they did the same thing to Ironheart. That show was trash to the last half, but what but they said no, I liked it all the way through, but people complained about it before it came out, and therefore it tanked in terms of his ratings. The same thing they did to Masters of the Universe, even though more people I don't see anybody that saw the movie saying they didn't like Masters of the Universe, but the people already have bought into the hype from all the complaints before it even came out.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:27

We did that from Wonder Man. I mean, yeah, there is hype around it, but um, at the same time, that's what I'm saying. Just show them what you're cooking, bro. That's all I don't I don't like to see that shit. I don't like to see that shit with motherfuckers talking about shit like that.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:42

But then the question is what movie did come out that people have gone to see like that? Because even even the little indie films, so let's talk about those like back rooms.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:52

Oh, back rooms made a hundred.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:54

Wait, let's look out, but it yeah, but back rooms made a hundred after how long?

SPEAKER_07 1:14:58

And the reason why that's a good for a back room is because 330 million globally with a 10 million dollar budget. I wrote that down on purpose. Yeah, 20-year-old director, first time director writing cinema. I don't care how long he did it. No, but that is the point. We're talking a movie with a weekend.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:20

No, it didn't make that in one, it didn't make that in one weekend. It didn't make that in one weekend. The first weekend was slow.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:27

No, the first weekend was a hundred million partner. What you talking about? And the supergirl made 70. Supergirl made 38 million for the yeah, probably 70 worldwide globally. But dude, that's a 200 budget movie. No, let's not forget the budget.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:46

No, let's talk about the movie. It's let's talk about the movie itself.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:51

You're talking about money. I'm talking about the movie. I'm talking about the coach. I'm not talking about the hobby.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:58

All this shit costs money, dog. That's fine.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:00

The movie, but they already got the money. The budget is not what determines that the movie is good or not. The movie itself is good. In fact, if people girl to me is more entertaining than back.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:13

You just said that he man is better than that movie, so yeah, movie is good, but it's not anything that's worthwhile to like gawk about, and that's the point.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:24

The point is in the numbers, so niggas ain't watching the movie, niggas ain't seeing the movie, but again, that's the point.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:33

The Hollywood standard is the movie has to make money immediately. Bro, why? Why they not watching it? Why they not watching it?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:43

Y'all the reasons we just was talking about.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:45

Yeah, none of it relates to the movie itself. The they're not watching the movie because the people shitted on it before it came out.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:51

So that brings effect to the whole public eye and the view of things of these movies. No, it's not the movie. I mean, we got doomsday coming where niggas haven't watched Marvel movies since The Last Avengers, and they heard Doomsday coming out, and they're trying to play catch up, which is wild. You watching a whole phase of movies that it was crap and trying to catch up.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:11

But see, that and that goes back to the that goes back to the point. People will say they don't like something before they see it, but then they'll go see it when someone else says you should watch it. Nobody is thinking for themselves. The whole point of going to the movies is to see the movie and decide if you like it, not to let someone else tell you it's trash.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:31

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:31

And this is where the movies are. The movies are not failing because they're not good. James didn't do nothing wrong with Supergirl, Master of the Universe, Hasbro didn't do nothing wrong with that. Yeah, these movies are perfectly fine. Obsession, this movie is crazy. I didn't see that. It's a violent, super psychological, very uncomfortable. It you walk out of that movie feeling fucked up, but it's making money, huh?

SPEAKER_07 1:18:06

It's a lot of those movies in these movies that do that.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:08

Yeah, and this one obsession is making money, yeah. Obsession is making it. Yeah, obsession is making money, but also because the people didn't know about it because it was an indie little small low budget film, so they couldn't trash it before it came out.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:22

It's cool to trash something before it comes out because it makes you look like you own something that everybody else ain't what is it come out and then it's still being trashed even more to affect your uh gross.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:34

Well, Masters was great, and so people saying like people not going to see it, don't change that fact. Most of the most of the cult classics, like Fight Club, were trashed when they came out, and then they was then people. I get it on that. I get I can watch when Masters hit streaming, watch how much people love it. Watch when Super Girl hit look the Superman movie. People shitted on it when it first came out. I don't really like it. Superman came out on streaming, that thing went to popped off and blew it up. Who were watching these movies? The people who claim just say y'all broke and y'all can't go to theaters. Stop saying y'all don't like the movie, and then when it comes on streaming, y'all spending y'all watching it a hundred times because Superman blew up when it went to streaming, but it was like everybody was like, Oh, Superman was all right. That's what's gonna happen. All right, yeah, but all the people that didn't see it saw it when it streamed, and suddenly they liked it. Masters is gonna blow up when they go to stream.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:32

I put it to you like this I like the actors, I like Minnie as motherfucking supergirl, I like motherfucking Jason Mamore's Lobo. Now, that was my key thing I was looking for in this movie was Lobo. He came through. Did he deliver? He delivered to me, he delivered to me. I want to see more, and that's the thing about this movie because I kind of know how to accept these movies. I want to see more of these motherfuckers. Um, David Corn swear that Superman is very dope as Superman. He's the most golly G Superman I've ever seen in my life. Golly G. Golly G G wiz. No, you know, yeah, he really is that because he don't curse. Now he don't do none of that. I like the contrast of um Cora because she's very different. She's um from the gutter, she's from the grind, she's seen her family die, she's older, she got sent here, she's a rebel, you know. I mean, she's all the things that Clark isn't, and that's good distinguishing in regards to characters. So I do like that as much. Yeah, very well. I want to see more of that. I really liked her character in the movie. She portrayed the character well. Some people was tripping, like it was nitpicking, man. She's pissing with the door open.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:45

Okay, she someone complained about that, like she's that's her character. Yeah, someone complained about it. Nitpicking, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:53

I mean, it's very nitpickle. So, um that's what ruins the movie experience, but um, but that's what kills their shit because now people's too over-critical over things, and I think I'm just conspiracy theorists. I think it's a whole bash against DC and James Gunn moving forward with these reviewers and these people because everyone said the same thing unanimously in my algorithm. I don't know about you, or I don't even know if you have this in yours, but um, yeah, all the motherfuckers that I check for for reviewers and all that shit, they shit it on this movie.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:28

For yeah, I avoid the viewers for that very reason because they they done failed me already.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:32

Nick picking, oh, they always do, but it's just interesting how everyone is on the same accord. That's what I mean. It's like some same accord shit. Yes, everyone's saying the same thing at the same time and on the same wavelength of things, and it's just like very interesting to me. So that's why I'm doing my research and checking out because it's like, what the fuck is going on? Is this political shit? Is this something against James Gunn? What did he say? What did he do? You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck is going on? No, because they everybody was was everyone, everyone was saying no girl is not attractive. They were saying a lot of Millie, that she's not attractive enough. Is she supposed to be?

SPEAKER_09 1:22:12

Who said super girl supposed to see? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:18

So, you know, people are weird, so motherfucking complaints, like these complaints are real, bro. Like, real complaints, these some weirdos.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:30

Well, it could be bots, it could be whatever, but no, they they they real people, but they weirdos. Like, like, how are you gonna go into a movie and complain with these same people like any other movie in the past that came out today, or would they find nitpicking? So that's like saying in Alien, she was in her underwear and they were really short undies, they were below her waist. Like, why are you worried about stuff like somebody's pissing with the door open? Like, she living in a ship by herself. What you gonna close the door for? Like, why are you worried about that? Like, that's that's the type of shit motherfuckers complain about in a movie, like that, like that three-second scene.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:08

It's politics, bro. They expect certain things when they see the Superman press. When they don't see everything what they have in their heads, the crazy fandoman, but this shit is spreading to other other shits, man. So when they don't see what they have in their hip, then it's a no-go, and that's what it is right now, bro. It's some weird foil cap on, man. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 1:23:37

Like they can have it, weird shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:40

They can have it, man. So they're nitpicking, their reasonings look very juvenile to me.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:45

That's what they're gonna they're gonna lose, they're gonna lose their edge because what's gonna happen is the movies they want are not gonna be made. Then you're gonna be left with shit movies that they want. These movies that they shitting on. What do you mean the movies they want? The movies they wanted, the movies they're I want the movies.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:05

Wait a minute, you can't do this.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:07

The movies they the movies they're shitting on are the movies they want. But they don't realize it. When you because think about it like this if James Gunn fails, we're gonna start DC over again. Then they go, you know, we're gonna go through this again. Nobody's gonna, they're not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:30

And what's right and what's wrong, you know what I mean? Like, uh I think it's fine right now. You know, do the B character, just get to it and do the larger characters and more known characters, but then some people like you say, you like it the way it's going now. Me, I'm kind of on the fence. I wasn't too happy with Peacemaker. You had a whole time, you had a whole thing in the house, and nothing happened from oh my gosh, we could get into that the disappointment.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:58

But a lot did happen in that. That's the Peacemaker show is what helped make it easier for the mainstream people to digest the portals in Superman. That's what that's what the story development is. That's the same formula that Marvel does, and everybody else does. You do one character to introduce one part of the universe, so that when it introduces in another movie, you're not like what the fuck is that? You already are introduced to portals in the multiple dimensions, so now Lex has suddenly got these machines and he walking through walls and through portals. It was already explained in the um Peacemaker show. So that show was the introduction of people to the variety of things that are going to be in the DC movies. Oh, there's portals, there's other dimensions, there's all these different creatures, there's all these different types of levels of of powers, and all that. But the show itself sucked, it was trash.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:50

I didn't like it. It's cool. First season was great, season two was a letdown. I didn't like the show, I don't care what it introduced. It introduced some things, yes, it did. But what, yeah, man, I don't know. It is I I'm just feeling a certain way as well. I did like Supergirl, I want to see more of what's going on, but I want to see more of what's going on, you know.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:12

I mean, I don't want to people love creature commandos when it was out. That was James Gunn.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:18

So it's not it, it's so creature commandos ain't nothing when I think about DC. Like, I have no idea what I didn't know Frankenstein was in DC. I never in my million, I guess I ain't no comic book head on DC because I ain't never heard of Creature Commandos into that cartoon. Yeah, so I didn't know monsters like that was there. I never seen Blue Suit Batman fight Frankenstein. I seen Solomon Grundy more than fucking Frankenstein in a DC where I read, so yeah, I don't know. These obscure characters are cool to mess with and shit, but you put them out as your first hitters is risky, and um that's all I'm gonna leave to it. It's kind of risky because yeah, we could watch it and get into it, but your biggest hitter is Superman, and um apparently, and this other shit I don't know if it's sticking to the wall or not, but let's get into it. We got the um clayface coming up, so that that's I'm I'm geek for that, and we got the lanterns coming up. I'm super geek for lanterns, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:26

So um so now here's the question Do you think people are gonna do the same thing to lanterns? Because they've already done it, they've already done it, yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:35

They've already shitted on lanterns, and if this is now I'm not promising what the show may be. If this is a subpar mid show or something like that, or didn't deliver like the penguin or some shit like that. The penguin, they you can't fuck with the penguin. Ain't no one said nothing about the penguin, you couldn't say shit about that. So that was cool, right? But um, if this don't deliver after. All of this, yeah, man. Yeah, I think they are gonna do the landslide. They waiting for it, they waiting to shit on black dude as Jon Stewart. They waiting, yeah. They they've already started Birdman rubbing right now, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:14

I mean, they they try, they've already tried, but we didn't take the bait. What they tried to do with John Stewart was they're like, he's too light. Like, you're not gonna get you're not gonna give black people to jump on that one. We ain't doing it like that. We don't do that, yeah. We don't do that. We ain't going for that. We don't do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:31

We don't do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:32

So um now watch watch people gonna all this stuff is people's gonna hate.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:36

So that's one, or if it delivers, that's when people gonna eat their words, and that's what I'm banking on. That it delivers super dope, and motherfuckers shut the fuck up because this will be the first time we seen real Green Lantern shit going on on the screen. So it's the first time we saw Supergirl, and this is the first time we saw Supergirl, and I appreciated it. I like Supergirl, I like the shit, and I want to see more. I'm too smart for them.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:01

I'm trying to tell you, it's too smart for people.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:03

I get you, I get you. Everybody wants the bang bang pal boom zowie.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:10

Yeah, she was she was sitting around getting drunk and not wanting to help the girl and not wanting to be a hero and fighting for fun. And see, literally said, I'm on this planet with a red sun because I want to feel pain. Like, she got happy when she bled.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:26

Yeah, she got happy when she bled and shit. Like, oh shit, blood, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:30

Like people like people, people not ready for that conversation.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:34

It's kind of like with Thunderbolts when they had to deal with the void and shit like that. Yeah, that that was some deep shit. A lot of people couldn't take that, and they dislike that movie for the same reason because it's forcing them to look at themselves. But when motherfuckers saw that mirror, yeah, when motherfuckers throw that mirror in front of your faces, you running high like a mother.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:54

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:55

Trey Varis.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:56

That's what I'm saying. People people need they need they need dopamine, right? Supergirl brought you so far down that when the dopamine kicked in, it only brought you back up to regular level. Supergirl was a very was about a depressed person, right? About a broken person who had to find value in what her worth was. Right, right, absolutely. You know, and that was like there, that's why people can't handle it.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:33

It's like you got this girl really being not a nice person, and she's not a nice person, she's not, she's not a nice person, even at the end of the movie, even at the end of the movie, it displayed that um she's not that nice of a character. Um, I like that. At first, I was tripping on how she went back to Clark so fast in the movie, but then it made sense. I was like, nah, set that up because once she do that shit in front of Clark, oh my goodness, Clark is gonna have a god darn it fit. He's gonna have a conniption. You can't do that, you can't do that, Cara. Oh my gosh, it might get them in trouble, no matter how they play it and write it. So, just moving forward, I just wish success for the DC because I'm not against DC at all. I'm just I thought everyone was rooting for this shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:26

No, I remember people didn't like gun from the beginning because you remember there's still the Snyder verse people out there that didn't that still hate on Gun that are still mad that Snyder didn't get to finish his Superman dropped, they kind of dropped their flags up. Only a few. They're they still on the internet, they're still Snyderverse pages.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:46

So, yeah, I'm still I'm still I want to see what cooks and where it goes, and we'll just fake it from there. But um, otherwise, he go and see Supergirl for yourself. You let us know. Go see all the shit, like, don't let nobody deter you.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:01

Yeah, don't let no one deter you from nothing. Because these movies are to entertain, and even at his worst, yeah, it's entertaining.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:11

So at the same time, I came out the theater content, like, yeah, that was cool. That was cool, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:17

Like I said, it wasn't no blow me down, uh blow me down shit from Supergirl, but uh, but but I'm cool with that because as long as you come out with an informed opinion, that's I will respect anyone who says I ain't like it because da da da. But if you tell me you didn't like the movie because of a three-second moment where she pissed with the door open in the bathroom, and uh she was drunk too much. But here's what's funny about that, right? The other movie, Obsession, has a similar scene that's provocative. Because they that's provocative, it's it's it's it's see, see, see it's cool, it's it's cool and hip to support the independent film.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:07

Ain't this the same? I mean, come on, I know it's Warner Brothers, but it's like, come on, dude, this super girl here. I just people can't help it, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:33:15

People can't help it. They've been on this, they've been on this train for years. People been hating DC and Marvel for the past five years, and been making and now they don't know how to stop hating, bank off of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:29

Because it's a it's a currency flow with it as well, yeah. It's a currency flow with it as well. More they hate, there's a hate algorithm, bro. And more you hate, more because this video games is the same niggas hating Wolverine already. God, like crazy. The game even dropped yet, bro. To November. Well, you know that you hate on so much. A trailer, they hate everything in campaign for everything that comes out. There's hate, you know what I mean? And um, these are miserable people, fam. But that's a consensus of that's a consensus of groupthink is groupthink.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:11

That's dangerous. It is dangerous, and this is why we gotta keep shining that light into that darkness, man, or keep shining this darkness into that light because this shit is crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:24

People are fucked up. I bet you I pre-ordered that Grand Theft Auto 6. Hell, yeah, but they've been complaining about that. They're gonna make two billion.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:36

They complained about the fact that the this is a old.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:40

They complained about the fact that there's no disc. Yeah, it's $80. $80. Well, all the physical people who have the collection, they wanted this. I I kind of tripped on it, but we're in the times now where just get you a hard drive, bro. That's all I mean to say, man. I am personally, I am buying games on this again. I am getting physical, so it is that, but that type of game, just download it. That thing is big, man. That thing, yeah, it's huge, man. So relax on that. But yes, this um Valve Steam Machine did drop um $1,049 for the controller, five 512 gigabytes, $1,128 for the two terabytes, and $13.49 for controller, and $14.28 with a controller, excuse me, with the two two terabytes. What controller cost? I don't know, man. But you know, that sounds like they dropped it, jumped a hundred like two hundred bucks for a controller.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:48

Yeah, yeah. The PlayStation controller is like a hundred.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:53

I think so. People are tripping on that. They're saying it costs too much for the specs, and they're saying the PlayStation is actually more powerful, which I did do some research, and it does look like that.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:05

Well, I don't buy gaming systems for that though.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:09

But this ain't a gaming system per se. This is a motherfucking like mini computer. This is a computer uh interface where you could do a little bit more things with it, you can um upgrade it, you can you know, build your own shit. You get some parts and stuff, you can you can't customize it, and um, yeah, it's a little bit different. So if you went to that, that's cool. I don't have a stream account and I do like PlayStation because Wolverine ain't gonna be on stream because they own some bullshit too. It's not gonna be on Steam, no sir.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:42

I thought Steam had everything though.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:44

Good luck with that. Um, they said um Sony is not partnering up with PCs anymore, so all their little exclusive games is back to their bullshit, it's just gonna be on PlayStation.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:57

If it's come out on there, maybe five years down the line. That's cool because I used to, I mean, I would buy that, I would buy the Xbox strictly to play Halo, and then I played everything else, like the Uncharted and all that on my PlayStation.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:10

I never it's back to those times, it's back to those times. It's just um, you know, subscriptions and all that shit. I'm tired of paying niggas for yeah, ice creams, things and all of that. But I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:23

You have to play Battlefield on Xbox, Call of Duty on PlayStation, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:26

Call of Duty. I mean shit. You're talking to someone who had a PlayStation and a Dreamcast, you know what I mean? So I would exchange whatever I want to play, I get to it. That's how it is. You want to play something, you get to it. You know, no matter what you got and what you use. So um Ghostbusters, night shift. Um, Ghostbusters having a night shift animation on Netflix pretty soon. Um yeah, we got some things cooking. There's some things cooking. We got oh no, the big news is see the DC's blackout strike, all this supergirl bullshit. Because look, nigga, when this absolute Batman animation drop, the world's shutting down, nigga. It's over. It's not one comic book franchise that was created in a year after animation is in developed. Um, there's not one thing like that. You strike when the iron is hot. Scott Snyder is gonna be the showrunner for his uh creation run and adaptation of this uh comic book, so it's in good hands. If Kirkman could do this shit, so we're gonna have Skybound, Transformers, Mass, GI Joe, and we haven't motherfucking they doing a Thundercats movie. They is a lot of shit cooking, man. Street Fighter movie. We're gonna have this shit going. Invincible coming back, like yo, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:58

Legend of Zelda coming out, that live action.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:02

Is coming out. Oh, speaking of, right now, shout out to my girl, she beat Zelda. And I didn't know when you beat Zelda that they they these games crazy. They don't give you the credit for being Ganon, they send you back to to do it better.

SPEAKER_10 1:39:29

Unclutch your pearls, sir.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:37

You be the game, you be the game, you be that game plus, and we outside rolling.

SPEAKER_10 1:39:41

Nope. Now you gotta start all over again and do it better.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:45

What dare you man? That game long as hell, man. That it's too much work.

SPEAKER_10 1:39:51

Now you gotta do it. Oh, but did you watch the the the season two of The Last Airbender? And it's bit they down to business. I didn't get to that. I didn't get to that.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:01

So they're down to business. I'm gonna check that out. Um, man, dude, what was the movie begonia? That you oh begonia, I saw begonia. Yeah, begonia is dope, y'all. If y'all want to see some wild shit, and it's it's some wild make you think, it's some intelligent shit, too. Man, it's it is uh it's really smart, smart, uh dark comedy. Um, really good. The acting about a Tim Foyer hat guy, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:40:27

Tim Tim Foyle hat guy, internet researcher, you know, who thinks that a um CEO is an alien. But then, but here's what's crazy, right? We just had Steven Spielberg drop a movie that was trash.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:43

Now, why was that trash there? Yes.

SPEAKER_10 1:40:46

So now the Steven Spielberg Spielberg movie was trash because he already did this, and there and in the space that he that he was doing, he it was Indiana Jones music over with with with with um Jurassic Park action scenes without dinosaurs. Yeah, it was that type of music and shit. It was that classic Steven Spielberg shit that's already been done already, and it was the action sequence. Like I say, it was that ready player one Indiana Jones Jurassic Park action sequences and that's where niggas be accidentally doing falling and shit happening and things happening around you, and it was that and then you know, this is a movie about it's called Disclosure Day, right? Right, you didn't give me more than the real disclosure day. I don't know if he knew the disclosure day was gonna happen, but I think that kind of stole his thunder. The real disclosure day, because it was the same shit, like he didn't do it. It was like, dude, we already saw this for real.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:51

This is what you can see. In real life, son, what you doing?

SPEAKER_10 1:41:55

Like, he showed us the same type of video, like on the Thursday, right? Like, like, if you're watching some of the people on YouTube who do the investigation of UFOs, it was better than this movie. But the thing about the movie that was the weakest was that he's he went back to his that's the stereotypical Grays, right? But then we are we just had a movie a few years ago called Um No One Will Save You, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:27

So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Amazing alien species and shit. Like, really, yeah, no one will save you. Was there was Grays, but they was um, they was different.

SPEAKER_10 1:42:39

It was, it was, it was it was dope. You got Greys with mind control, you got them fighting and yeah, battling, telekinetics. Yeah, you got all that shit going on in that movie, and then it was a weird plot twist, right? This movie didn't even have no real like this movie had a predictable plot twist. I knew what was gonna happen. Everybody walked out of that movie quiet, like it was like boring. It was boring. It and and and that's dealing with so what we're dealing with is going down, just got up. What we're dealing with is James Gunn is over, time to go. Movie is over, time to go. We got three things going on at the same time, right? What we got the old heads, the ogs like Spielberg, who keep making movies, even though they already had their best idea, and all they keep doing is rehashing their idea. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls, fucking aliens, gray aliens, right? He's already done this. ET, extraterrestrials, like they him and George Lucas. This this this over with. They did all this, and then they do this one more movie. Now, I'm not saying that the the concept could have been better, but his delivery was already he did all this, and then back to the original point of these alien movies. We then have some great movies about aliens, and you went back to the most basic level of gray alien bullshit, like they're not even they're not even doing then. But Gonia knocked that on his ass, yeah, yeah. That shit was cold with the whole story of man.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:19

Listen, when the conversation when she was talking about the history, yeah, yeah, when she did the flip, but even before then, it was more corporate versus you know I mean, common man, yeah. It was the rich versus poor, yeah. Rich versus poor. She was talking about buying them out and shit like that. Like, that was really um good banter. And then when the flip when the twist came, yes, that upped it so much, man. So shout out to that actress. Uh, she's old girl off the boys, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:50

She's been doing a lot of stuff. She was that movie was, and that's an ex so to me, in the in the in the context of movies. So, like, I didn't seen the you know, the with the I Love Boosters, Is God Is, Spoonful of Chocolate, One Spoon of Chocolate or whatever. Like, but so like there's all these movies that are coming out that are like more indie based, right? Which is dope. There was, but there was a theme of these revenge flicks, right?

unknown 1:45:19

Right.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:19

I finally got around to they will kill you. They will kill you was cold. Did you see that? I love they will kill you.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:30

Um, that was yeah, absolutely. Seen it three times. I saw it in the theater. That was some Sam Raymond shit. That was some evil dead shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:41

Evil Dead. Um, she was saving her sister and this damn coat from his coat, and she was getting busy with these motherfuckers. And Zazzy beats and booty shorts is always getting me to watch. Nah man, yeah, so um, no, it was dope though. But with her fight, this first time, I mean, she was in Deadpool, but she was domino. She ain't had to do no fighting, yeah. No fight choreography this time. But she was cold, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:09

Yeah, that was some really good fighting, really good story. Actually, one of the best movies of the year so far, you know. Yeah, I think I think so. It was the best, it was a surprise. That was the thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:23

It was very it was kind of like mid on my list, but then when I seen the movie, it was like, Oh shit, this is actually this cooks. So, um, yeah, that was dope.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:32

I the act scene with the act scene in the um in the dark room, fire, yeah, yeah, dude, yeah, dude, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:41

Don't mess with beats, man. Don't mess.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:44

Nah, she's John Wickdom. Sass Beats, man. But when she but like the whole the whole Sam Raimi element with the whole way like the camera goes and zoom in on something, yeah. And then she's pulling out the shotgun. Like, I was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what y'all doing. Homage. Yeah, that was a hit. Yeah, that was a hit.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:05

I actually might be grindhouse-ish. I would say so. Um, yeah, I will say so. I'm I'm not gonna fight with that. Um, still the summertime, y'all. Yeah, we just getting here. Heat wave, yeah. Heat wave is hitting. So all the elderly, all the other little babies, make sure y'all in good air conditioned spaces, keeping cool because the heat is coming. The summer is here. Y'all asked for it. Now we here. Summertime in the shop. And and um, taste of chicago coming up. Common is performing. Yeah, he comes with the heat, so yeah, just stay in the house then. Fuck it. But um, the for those who are outside, common will be at the Taste of Chicago uh next week. So go and check that out if you're outside, out and about. Um the taste is like two days long now. It's two days long. It's three days.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:58

Oh no, I'll just say, like they the shrink up is crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:02

It's not what it used to be. But if you that's what you're trying to assume, because uh yeah, taste used to be at least four or five days, man. We used to go. Yeah, it was a long, it was a long period. Every day, right? Um shout out to uh Corey Green. He was uh coming up, he made some ranking in the Evo tournament competition. Uh shout out to him. Um, we're gonna definitely have to go ahead and bomb the ways because I want to see that shit, man. Corey, Corey be selfish with his views and shit, but um, we gotta go there and infiltrate and see what's going on here. So um, but shout out to all the competitors who was up in there kicking it and uh you know doing their thing. Twister fakes five years for unpaid taxes, he's under the Wesley Snipes act. We gotta save Twister.

SPEAKER_10 1:48:57

Oh man, first of all, Twister got Twister got gotta pay his taxes. That's the bottom line. That's all I mean. I don't know what else to say to that. Like there's so much we could do. Like, what the fuck? Like, like of all the things that you know you gotta do. What do they say? Death and taxes. Everybody, everybody, we know what happened to Wesley, you know, we know we know this game. We know just just on the basic level, we know as black people, we trying to avoid problems, right? We don't want no, we don't want no problems, and you creating a problem for yourself. Like you he was like, what is it, 400,000?

SPEAKER_07 1:49:47

It was a lot, 400,000, something like that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:49:50

It's a lot, like that's unpaid taxes over the last what, 10 years or some shit. Probably crazy, probably longer than that knowing him. No, he was probably um but then then my question is who ratted him out because how they know that he was doing these shows or doing these events to avoid paying taxes. How they know that?

SPEAKER_07 1:50:16

Hey man, enemies, enemies, frenemies, and enemies, man. You gotta be careful with them niggas. I mean, it is what it is. Don't have your personal business out there. Just do your shit, get your money in bounce, man. Fuck your taxes is in public news. Like, why your tax information is out there like that?

SPEAKER_10 1:50:37

Why are you not paying your taxes? You know?

SPEAKER_07 1:50:40

Just pay your house. Why are you just not paying your taxes? Like, yeah, well, that's that's howmore. Uh-oh. Yeah, go ahead. No, what would you say? I was saying shout out to Fillmore. Um, shout out to Fillmore, July 15th. He'll be at the City Winery. Um check him out. Texas are on sale. If you want to check out the return to Fillmore Green, July 15th, because he's bringing his friends in the gang. Speaking of gang, shout out to Vic Spencer. One of the homies. Just giving him a shout out, just cause Taiwan. I just saw Vic out of the game. Shout out to Bugs. Yeah. Chilling. So now that's what's up, man. Um shout out. Shout out to everyone. Shout out to the city, of course. It's definitely um that weather, like I said again, so be safe out here. Um watch your kids. Kids, watch your parents. Um stay healthy, man. Fuck. It's a lot of shit cracking, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:51:53

So Yeah, don't fall for the Okie doke.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:57

Don't fall for the Okie doke, because these people will let astray. They ain't got nothing to do with their lanes. So they want to lame up your parade. Don't let people lame up your parade, man. On all costs, man. Don't let anyone protect your IPs, protect your brands, protect everything, man. Don't let these people rain on your parade because it sucks, man. Because you're trying to enjoy something. You know what I mean? It's supposed to be a celebration. And creatives make creative things shit. Right. And any level. You know what I mean? So don't let the motherfuckers lane lane your shit up, man. Fucking these niggas. Straight up. Straight out.

SPEAKER_10 1:52:42

Just that simple. Straight like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:44

Yeah. So go ahead and kill it on that note. Any last words, sir?

SPEAKER_10 1:52:53

Nah, I think you said it best, man. Just do your thing. Hey, do the knowledge. That's all I'm gonna say. Put knowledge first. Y'all gotta stop it.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:01

Just put knowledge first. Stop playing. Do the knowledge first. You know what time it is, man. Stop stop looking stupid out here. Stop doing stupid. Stop playing yourself. Stop doing stupid shit. Yo, not Bob Saggett. Yeah, so get your ass out these videos, man. I don't need no narration of a narration of a narration after another narration.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:26

That's so weird.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:28

Yeah. All right, well, you see this right here? You see this? You see this figure right here.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:39

So let me tell you how I got this. So anyway.

SPEAKER_10 1:53:43

It'd be reaction videos to reactions.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:47

Reaction videos to reactions to other reactions. And is getting a bad reaction. Man, I'm right.

SPEAKER_10 1:53:53

I'm having an allergic reaction right now.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:55

Yeah, allergic.

SPEAKER_10 1:53:58

Yikes.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:01

Alright, man. We out.

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