Daddy Daughter Scary Horror 6.11 (Friday the 13th, 1980)

Are you ready for the summer?  Poor Steve Christie is trying to get there, but he may have a spot of bad luck.  Eric & Serling make their way into the "Friday..." franchise with the one that kicked it all off.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Yeah, baby boo. Yabba. Anything you forget, I forget.

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Back in business.

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Back. Back on track. On schedule, on point. Like we mentioned in our previous episode.

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Freaks, take a lesson.

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Are you calling our audience freaks?

SPEAKER_04 0:42

No. Oh, I see what you did.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Yes. Um, but yeah, getting right back into it. Back from our January break, which will likely be an annual tradition with a show, like we said.

SPEAKER_04 0:53

Uh so let's uh slash our way right into it.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Don't say it like that. That's a pun. That's what that was. Solid work.

SPEAKER_04 1:01

Because you said this movie started the slasher genre.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Well, it's complicated a little bit because there are movies that came before this and 'cause I thought Halloween started it all. Well, how yes, Halloween, nineteen seventy-eight made a ton of money, was shot for very little money, so that got a lot of wannabe film producers excited about the financial potential of low budget horror. Small investment, big return. But Texas Chainsaw and Black Christmas, they came out four years before that. And then there were all the Italian crime movies, the giallos they called them, uh in the early 70s. So a long path leading our way to Friday. This Friday. The first Friday.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

What about Psycho? Isn't isn't that's a slasher, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:46

See that? I would count that. Yeah, and Peeping Tom, same year as Psycho, 1960. From the mold of the kind of polite young gentleman slashers, but movie genres that like we talk about on the on the podcast, they evolve every decade or generation or so to match whatever we're worried about most at the time in society. So in the sixties, it was um, I guess kind of about mental illness breaking through the repressed upbringing of um children slash young adults there. And then in the 70s, it shifted to um fear about hippies and Satan and evil in our own backyards instead of out there in the middle of nowhere in a in a rundown motel or in a gothic castle somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 2:30

So what movie and the trail of all those movies that came out before this which one was like the most important? Like if that one movie didn't exist, then Friday the thirteenth probably wouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Yeah, so it's probably Halloween just because of the incredible success that it had. And the fact that a group of complete unknowns made it for so little, so that was like a beacon to anyone who could put together a little bit of cash and uh wanted to make a movie.

SPEAKER_04 2:59

So you were my age when this came out?

SPEAKER_01 3:01

No, younger. I I was nine. Uh but I was ten or eleven. So a little younger than you when I saw it. And I saw it a lot because of early cable. Very tip start of the way more at your fingertips era of modern entertainment. Back when fifteen channels was a bonanza. Can you imagine only having fifteen channels to choose from?

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I heard there was a chance.

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And that was up from like four. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. See how lucky you were?

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Maybe it's not luck.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Maybe it's better not to have anything whenever you want. Wherever you want. You know, you can watch a movie's sitting on the toilet.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_04 3:37

That's gross. Uh Daddy Dumsum.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

Uh, Daddy Dumsum. Well, let's see. Um that's when I summarize a movie poorly. Yeah, right. Yes, yep. So well, this is really the story then of Steve Christie. Classic cautionary tale, certainly. A loser's journey. Guy in way over his head, and everything's just about to suck out.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

I'm sorry, who is Steve Christie?

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Dumb, kind of creepy older guy who still looks decent in cutoff jeans shorts. He keeps trying to open his family's troubled summer camp. Uh, dumb camp owner guy somehow manages to get Kevin Bacon and Bing Crosby's son on the counselor payroll. Dumb camp owner guy tries to rally his troops, but doesn't get much boss respect, and his cook never shows up. So now what are they gonna eat?

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Dead, dead.

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Plus, all that dumb camp owner guy's counselors want to do is sneak off into the woods and kiss and hug. Okay, and there is so much work to do before the kids arrive. And it's gonna start raining, so all that painting they've been doing all afternoon, it's gonna have streaks in it. This guy has no luck. Dumb camp owner guy goes off to pick up some supplies and then gets his jeep stuck in the mud. He seems to find a friend in the middle of a rainstorm, but then gets killed. Classic sad loser story.

SPEAKER_04 4:52

That was the worst Daddy Dumpsum ever.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

I mean, it says it all.

SPEAKER_04 4:55

Yeah.

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You think I went into too much detail about the gene shorts?

SPEAKER_04 4:59

It's supposed to be guy meets girl. Girl. Not like I.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

No, I don't I'm not tied to what we've done in the past. I can pivot and evolve.

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But Daddy Dumpsum. Do better, go ahead.

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Recap this record.

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Okay. Uh so just a little fun fact here while I was writing this record.

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Is this really gonna be fun for me? Or is it just a fact?

SPEAKER_04 5:16

You know, it wasn't fun for me. That daddy dump sum. Okay, um so while I was writing this recap, it was really difficult because while I was looking at research, there was so little I could add to my recap without spoiling the ending. Like Wikipedia.

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Excuses. Like Wikipedia. So fun excuses or fun.

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Anyway, starting off our recap with our characters Jack, Bill, Alice, Marcy, and Ned. They all get hired at Ned. I do too. Tragic. So they all get hired at Camp Crush.

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They got sweet summer jobs at Camp Crystal Lake.

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Or also known as Camp Blood.

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It's got a little bit of a history. And they're all trying to get camp ready for the scheduled reopening, and it's been closed for a while.

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Mm-hmm. They're all having fun with each other swimming, painting, and more, like building up the camp, like making it suitable.

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Uh normally, fixing the doors, the windows, all that stuff. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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Killing that snake, sorry. Uh and then they get hit with a big storm. They don't think much of it 'cause it's just a storm.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

Sure, happens all the time.

SPEAKER_04 6:16

Yeah. But then they start to notice weird things happening around them. Suddenly, one by one, they get picked off by the killer. Their protagonist, Alice, is the last one alive, and she is oblivious of everyone dying. Like I I didn't understand that.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

Yeah. Sooner and this should have been like a seventy-minute movie.

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Like just get the idea that because everybody is disappearing, they are dying.

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And you So you would assume the worst first.

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Yeah.

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Then you'd probably live past the first five minutes of part two.

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Yippee.

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Unlike Alice.

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Now, as much as I would love to spoil the ending of the video. I I cannot, because it's so incredible and shocking. The ending. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Yeah. Um cool. Let's listen to the trailer.

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I've had this dream. I'm in a thunderstorm, and it's raining really hard. Sounds like pebbles when it hits the ground. I try to block out the sound with my hands only. It doesn't work. It just keeps getting louder and louder. And the rain turns to blood. It's just a dream.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

What do you give this recommended age? Um So you're twelve. You're twelve now, right?

SPEAKER_04 8:10

I say ten. It's got some pretty good effects. It's a little gore effects. Eleven.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Yeah, let's say eleven. Okay. Gotta be eleven to watch this movie with your kid. There's some very realistic gore.

SPEAKER_04 8:21

Tomato sauce, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

No, this is no. Tomato sauce was Tom Savini and Dawn of the Dead. This looks like real blood. Now I will say you can see the seams a little bit in high definition. Thank you. So the fake flesh looks a teeny bit green, but you gotta forgive it that because it looked great on the screen and and on basic cable.

SPEAKER_04 8:41

And also at the very ending when the head's being chopped up, you can see foam.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

Yeah.

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Like, what was that? It's so noticeable. It's the specs.

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We're not picking apart the uh the effects yet. Save that for the minuses.

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So is this a recommend or a pass?

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I don't know. Would you rec do you recommend this movie?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Okay, yeah, I do too. This is a classic, and it set a lot of templates for what uh what was gonna follow. So go watch.

SPEAKER_04 9:08

Yeah. Say that awesome thing. Okay, um, deep dive. Welcome back. Hopefully you watched it.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Um every camp I ever went to felt like it was nailed together decades and decades prior, and not very well kept up. And they said like this place went back 50 years in the family, so that means this camp started back in the 1930s. But that's all part of the charm of going to camp. Bad food, questionable safety conditions, staph infections when you get bitten under the arm by a spider. Did I have I told you that story?

SPEAKER_04 9:48

No, Dad. I would love to hear it for the millionth time.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

When I was at camp on Corkoda for musical boys and girls, I uh got bitten in the middle of the night under my arm by um a spider. Possibly a brown recluse.

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Then you went to the nurse, all the girls were really worried about you. They were.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Oh my god, they were so nice. So I have told you this story.

SPEAKER_04 10:08

No, no, this is really new to me.

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And you're right on the fringe of probably being able to head off to camp, like an overnight camp for a couple weeks this summer.

SPEAKER_04 10:16

Actually, we'll talk about I've got a couple of things.

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You think you're ready for overnight camp?

SPEAKER_04 10:19

Here's the camp recommendation letter that I got in the mail.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Okay. Let me take a look at it. Is it for Camp Crystal Lake?

SPEAKER_04 10:26

Yeah. It's um it's too simple. They're reopening that place again.

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What are they gonna learn? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 10:31

Damn you, Steve Christie! Um didn't he die?

SPEAKER_01 10:34

Yeah, he kind of did. One word review.

SPEAKER_04 10:38

I my one word review is thrilling because it's very suspenseful and it's got thrilling moments that can just make your heart beat faster and faster every single time. Even if you watched this before like two or four times, it still c is really compelling and it will really really cool.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

It stands up to a couple rewatches, but if this is the first time that somebody's seeing this, it is like a little um Agatha Christie ten little Indians kind of mystery. And they throw you a couple of curveballs, they make you suspicious about this character or that character. You throw a crazy Ralph into the mix, you know uh not sure whether he has something to do with this. You got Bill, counselor who's a little too comfortable killing things with machete. Um yeah, it works.

SPEAKER_04 11:25

Yeah. Pluses.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Oh, you you don't you don't care about my one-one review.

SPEAKER_04 11:29

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Oh, okay. Um then yes, pluses. Let's go. Uh, where are our books? You were supposed to get them.

SPEAKER_04 11:36

Well, I, unlike you, have all my pluses memorized. No, you don't. Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

No, you don't. Yeah, I do. No, you don't.

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Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Anything you forget, I forget better. So what do we want to do? You want to do uh class of uh 1980, the other horror movies that came out this year, since you are not interested in my one-word review?

SPEAKER_03 11:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Okay, go ahead. I will get my one word review in, you know that, right?

SPEAKER_03 11:59

Will you? Will you, Dad?

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Yeah. I edit this, so I'll just pop it in later.

SPEAKER_04 12:04

Okay, so we've got uh The Shining. We've done this year a lot. Um The Fog, The Changeling, Blood Beach.

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Is this the best year for horror?

SPEAKER_04 12:12

Yes. Motel Hell Beach.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Um Wanted to watch that one. Motel Hell fun.

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Don't answer the phone.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh funeral.

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That's like me when potential spam calls.

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Terror chain Terror Train, The Boogeyman, Inferno, Prom Night, Uh, Night of the Zombies, Alligator, uh, The Gates of Hell, Death Ship.

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Holy smokes.

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Yeah. City of the Walking Dead, Toxic Zombies, Satan's Slave, Island The Island.

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I think Michael Cain's in that.

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Eating Alive, Fade to Black, Nightmares, Mother's Day, Dress to Kill, Night.

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Fade to Black has Dennis Christopher in it, who's uh which one does he play in It? The guy with the inhaler.

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Eddie.

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Eddie. Plays Eddie in It.

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And Eddie actually dies in the book.

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But not in the TV movie of It? Nope. Hmm. I wonder about the remake. Which you still haven't seen. Uh Alright. Any other interesting entries from 1980? Well, when we get to 1981, that's when everyone is seeing the huge success of Friday the thirteenth, and there's just uh uh three times as many horror movies in nineteen eighty one as there is in nineteen eighty and before. Um Alright, one word review. You ready for mine?

SPEAKER_04 13:20

Uh okay. So pluses. The acting is mostly good. I mean, you've got Kevin Bacon and Betsy Palmer.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Yeah, they're good. They're solid.

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And that's kind of it.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

It's nice to be able to give a half a damn about the characters who are in a terrifying situation. The first two movies in the Friday series, they they do a really good job with writing some substance into their characters, or at least enabling you to watch with some empathy. And past that, uh with a series like this, horror series, where you have a killer who just needs fresh victims every movie to keep things going, uh it's probably very easy to get lazy when you're just cranking these things out, not to give any care to the creation of your cast. But that's Victor Miller. So he wrote the script, and he was a soap opera writer. Uh so he knew a little something about making you care about characters, even when they're a little ridiculous or in ridiculous situations.

SPEAKER_04 14:12

Something really cool about this was we watched Friday the thirteenth, the uncut version. So there were a few added scenes.

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Do you remember do you have what the added scenes were?

SPEAKER_04 14:22

I don't. Because they weren't really memorable.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Crack research as usual. Oh, Dad.

SPEAKER_04 14:27

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Um this movie filmed in Hope, New Jersey. You saw signs for that. This movie was filmed in New Jersey, but the little town names, there's Hope, New Jersey, and Blairstown, where the diner is in that scene. Um we mentioned the characters. Who was your unfortunate favorite in this? There are a couple of options.

SPEAKER_04 14:46

I have three.

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Who?

SPEAKER_04 14:48

Marcy, Ned, and Brenda.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

I think Brenda was my unfortunate favorite. She lasts a long time.

SPEAKER_04 14:55

She's the axe in the bathroom, right?

SPEAKER_01 14:57

No, that's Marcy.

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Oh, yes, yes, yes.

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Brenda's She's the one who doesn't hook up with Kevin Bacon. Um I like well, I like the special effects. I really like the music. Henry Manfredini did a great job with us. I don't th I don't find it a Halloween ripoff. It's not um electronic synthetic. It's like orchestra and he mixes those the little breathy accents in, which was uh very cool and I don't remember having ever been done in a score before.

SPEAKER_04 15:30

Um I think the scenery and cinematography, it was very beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

Yeah, it's a pr it was a pretty place. They it was an actual camp. Oh my gosh. Ono bono bee or something like that. I I used to know what the camp was called, but it was an actual camp. And um yeah, we mentioned Brenda. I like how she gets lured out into the night following uh well we maybe we'll talk about when we get to Coolest Kill.

SPEAKER_04 15:55

I like the raincoats. They're always leading to death.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Interesting. Always so you put a raincoat, you put a slicker on in this movie, and you're gonna die?

SPEAKER_03 16:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

I'll have to watch that again with that in mind. It's either that or I like after I mean the reveal of who the killer is is fantastic. Yes, yes. And I like when she says, We can go now. Which means like I can kill you, you can go now.

SPEAKER_04 16:21

And like the gaslighting. She's like she's like, Oh, it's okay, hugs her.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Mm-hmm. I like the the cook kills the cook. So Miss Voorhees was used to be the cook there, and the first kill is uh Alice out in the middle of the woods. Well, third kill, technically, because you got the two counselors in the very beginning. Fourth kill, if you include Jason.

SPEAKER_04 16:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

Which you can't. That's more of an accident.

SPEAKER_04 16:42

Okay, dad.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Um I love the pantry scene where Alice locks herself in the pantry and you can see a silhouette through the slats and she's trapped and looking for something to fight with.

SPEAKER_04 16:54

I'm sorry, was that an added scene? I feel like it was.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

No, that's in the original.

SPEAKER_04 16:58

I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

What else? What other pluses we got?

SPEAKER_04 17:02

Like you said, the music is interesting.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

And that ending. I mean, you gotta give props to not only the reveal of the killer, but then the big ending, which we might talk about when we get to SGS. Sorry, I got scared moments. What's your spotlight for this? Oh, is your spotlight my one-word review?

SPEAKER_04 17:17

Because my one-word review is My spotlight is Betsy Palmer, who plays Mrs.

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Vohees.

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Yeah.

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You're kind of wearing a Betsy Palmer Mrs. Voorhees sweater right now. It's a very thick cable knit sweater.

SPEAKER_04 17:30

I like thick cable knit.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

Tell us about Betsy Palmer.

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Okay.

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I know she did not want to do this movie. She thought it was garbage.

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Yep.

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But she needed the money. She needed to buy a new car.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

So Betsy Palmer was an American actress known for her many film and Broadway roles.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

Yeah, she was a Broadway actress.

SPEAKER_04 17:46

Yep. Television guest starring appearance.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

We were just on Broadway. What did we see?

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Six and Sufs.

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Skippable.

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Rude. Uh Sufs was good. Watch Sufs.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

Yes, Sufs was good. And she was We only see all female cast productions in the theater.

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We're gonna see outsiders. She was a panelist on the game show I've Got a Secret, and later playing Pamela Voorhees and Meanwhile, her biggest secret was the reveal that she's the killer in this movie. She was born November 1st, 1926, East Chicago. She died, sadly, on 2015. She was eighty-eight.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Oh, she lived a long time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:23

She was married to Vincent Meradino.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_04 18:26

Yep. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

Are these more of your fun facts?

SPEAKER_04 18:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Um I know that she was paid a thousand dollars a day for this movie, which was a huge amount compared to what everyone else was getting paid. But uh yeah, they wanted kind of an established trustworthy actress to play the part to um to fool the audience. So nice job. Uh what about minuses?

SPEAKER_04 18:54

Oh, I'm I was gonna say what movies she was in.

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I was gonna say my one-word review.

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Which uh she was in uh the long gray line, Marty, Miss Oh, she's in Marty. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

That's a great movie. With uh Cabby from uh um Escape from New York. He got an Academy Award for that.

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Oh, yeah, that is him.

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Ernie Borgnine.

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Yep. Uh I don't dare show my face.

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You're not that ugly, sweetie. It's okay. That's why we're doing podcasts instead of a TV show.

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The Last Angry Male. Friday the thirteenth, part two, Friday the thirteenth, part two.

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They do little flashbacks.

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Uh Goddess of Love and the Tin Star and Queen Bee.

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I've heard of the Tin Star. Great. Minuses. What didn't you like? So you said you didn't like the makeup effects.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

Um, I had mixed emotions.

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I think you're crazy for not liking the cra the makeup effects in this. Now there's a difference between not liking the makeup effects and not liking the actors who are caked in the makeup and maybe not doing the best job of staying perfectly still and dead looking.

SPEAKER_03 19:57

Like Bill's eye twitch. You had one job. Stay still when you're dead.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Right. So Harry Crosby, Bing Crosby's son, you don't see him die, but you see him like pinned against um a door shot by arrows, and he has an arrow through his eye. And do you know he temporarily went blind in that eye from all the chemicals in the fake blood? Well So you're saying, well, if he had kept his eyes shut instead of twitching, he probably wouldn't have. Well, it just shows you though the length that actors have to go through, especially in a low budget flick.

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Anyway, uh so Annie's acting.

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Annie's acting wasn't the best.

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Awful.

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But I do think again, you're surprised that she dies so soon.

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And you're surprised that her acting is so bad.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Well, at least you don't have to deal with her acting for very long.

SPEAKER_04 20:45

Dad, you realize Annie's the main person, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:48

No, Alice is the main person.

SPEAKER_04 20:50

You said Alice dies. Annie is the main person.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

Alice does die in the first five minutes of part two. You can't get me. You're trying to get me, but you're not gonna. Um any other things you did not like?

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Um I didn't like how much you were trying to talk about your one-word.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

Oh, thank you. That reminds me. So Gate Open.

SPEAKER_04 21:11

Okay, so getting back to Like we talked about.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

But I will say because this really did usher in the slasher uh movie genre. Are you on the right?

SPEAKER_04 21:20

So where did you get a Sterling got scared? Sterling got suspensed out, shocked.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Yeah, so where did we get it?

SPEAKER_04 21:25

Annie, when she gets chased down into the woods.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Right, in broad daylight, too. So you're kind of not expecting it.

SPEAKER_04 21:31

Yeah, I thought she was gonna be the main pretty girl. So having her die in the first ten minutes was kind of surprising.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Good and like we said, good versus special makeup effect too. Shocks you into attention. So there's one.

SPEAKER_04 21:42

Kevin Bacon, that was a good one.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

Oh is, yeah, stabbing through the mattress. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:47

Even though they would have to been blind not to see the dead guy now in one eye temporarily.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Yeah, they should have seen Ned, dead Ned lying in the top bunk while Kevin Bacon and his girlfriend Marcy were you know.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

Y you know. Hubba hubbyang in the bottom bunk.

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Like, maybe they didn't notice the killer under the bed, but Ned would have been right at eye level in the top bunk. Maybe they were very distracted by their hubba hubbying.

SPEAKER_04 22:13

Can we just say having sex No.

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This is a family show.

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You've cursed on this show.

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That was a long time ago. Ancient history. What else? Other SGSs. So we have three?

SPEAKER_04 22:24

Alice trying to hide from Mrs. Voar.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Right, yeah, in the pantry. That was suspenseful. Um and what about the fact that the killer's a woman? Kind of a Sterling got surprised, right? Reveal moment.

SPEAKER_04 22:35

Especially when she seems so nice and motherly when she first shows up. And you think Alice is finally saved. So four SGS is pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

And then that ending. Yeah. Jason pops up out of the lake. That's what everyone was talking about on the playground when I was ten.

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That was shocking.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

And that was uh when you had already seen the movie, but your friends hadn't, and you rented it at a sleepover, and you knew you couldn't give that ending away to them, and you just got to watch their response to it. That was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_04 23:00

And a feeling of power, I feel like.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

Yeah. Like you knew something they didn't know. And you were gonna get to see them freak out a little bit. So what is that?

SPEAKER_03 23:09

Five SGS.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Five SGS, that's a legit scary flick. Stands the test of time. Scare wise anyway. Cool as kill.

unknown 23:17

I gotta think.

SPEAKER_04 23:18

Wait, I gotta think. Come on. M. Um Wait, I got this. I got this. I got this.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Um dead air.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

I got the Okay. Three.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Three, two, one, Marcy. Ooh. Why Marcy?

SPEAKER_04 23:32

It was so sad.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 23:35

If I'm getting this correct, she's the one that got the axe in her face and then stumbles back and then she just falls and then.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

You see the axe hit the light, and then the light kind of does the little psycho pendulum throwing its beam all over the place. And um she does a little face flicker afterwards too. I don't think that makeup was particularly uh comfortable. They wanted to have it where you saw the axe go in, but Tom Savini, the makeup artist, wasn't satisfied with how that looked, so they just cut to her with the axe in the face. In the old kisser, as they say. Okay. The old Kevin Bacon kisser.

SPEAKER_04 24:13

No, no.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

But I said Brenda. You know, she retires from the strip monopoly game that they're playing, and now it's just down to the three of them. So her, Bill, and Alice.

SPEAKER_04 24:22

Uh she tries to go to her bed in the bunk, and she's right in the same place where Marcy got her face axed, and then she hears a child's voice calling for help through the rain.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Yeah, another good help me from this season. Help me. The F's.

SPEAKER_04 24:39

Yeah, the flies, and this now.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

And the monster who eats it out in during Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell. So poor Brenda is called to she's lured back out in the storm and and out to the archery range.

SPEAKER_04 24:50

And that's where she had that little startle moment with Ned earlier in the daylight. Then the spotlight hits her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

It's a nice little kind of foreshadowing to Brenda's end. And it's the creepiest to me. There's there's such good early slasher gore makeup effects in this, like we talked about. And obviously uh they're noteworthy kills, but this one.

SPEAKER_04 25:12

You don't see it.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Right. So you build up to a little jump scare with the lights and then cut away before the violence hits. It's cool. Oh, you know what time it is?

SPEAKER_04 25:21

Fight, flight, freeze, we're giving it away.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

I'll spend the whole beginning the fight. Yes, Bobby Garde.

SPEAKER_04 25:29

Oh god, I hate that jingle. Can I please redo that?

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Anytime you want.

SPEAKER_04 25:32

Awesome. Um fight. Alice spends the whole like last twenty minutes fighting and fighting.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

I mean, she goes through a fire poker, a twenty-two, uh what else? Canoe paddle. And then uh she finally grabs hold of that machete that uh Betsy Palmer drops.

SPEAKER_04 25:51

Uh and Bill fights that that poor snake for no good reason at all.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Wouldn't even call that a fight. That snake had no chance. Oh. What about freeze?

SPEAKER_04 25:59

Uh Alice freezes for a moment, like a split second, when Mrs. Voorhees tells her uh Jason was her son, and today is his birthday. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

That's a lot to process. Suddenly realizing, oh, the person who I thought was gonna save me is now probably nuts and gonna kill me. It's a bummer to be born on Friday the thirteenth, I bet. Um Annie in the woods, she freezes.

SPEAKER_04 26:21

Well, she tries to flight, but yeah, she kind of gives up and freezes once Mrs. Voorhees catches up to her.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

How about Guess the Tomato? What do you think this got?

SPEAKER_04 26:30

Uh I'm gonna say Rotten Tomatoes rating. I feel like this wasn't rated well, so 79.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

Uh lower. It's 68.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

So this is a Deliver Me From Nowhere. Like a that's a Bruce Springsteen biopic that came out recently. Um I Am Legend, which we talked about on the show. It's um the Richard Matheson novel. It's been done a bunch of times. SpongeBob SquarePants movie. I feel like we've done this rating recently. Okay. So for our Guest the Tomato game, you haven't seen this movie, but you know about it. All right? So I'm gonna give we're gonna start off with five points. Tell me how we play Guest the Tomato, Sterling. Uh so I'll get what we're playing for.

SPEAKER_04 27:09

I'm terrified.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Should be.

SPEAKER_04 27:10

Uh so you give me hints obscure at first, then they go easier when we get to like as the point values diminish, the clues get easier.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

So it's easier for you to get, but you get less of, or you have to go through more of either a treat or a torture. In this case, I think we have a torture. These are caramel creams. Now you like caramel, but where it gets sketchy for me is the powdery blocky white cream inside. Well, you're gonna find out exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_04 27:41

I think I want to, you know.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

You have to eat as many of these as you don't know the clues for the movie I'm about to give you, which also scored at 68% on round tomatoes. So here we go.

SPEAKER_04 27:52

For those playing at home, please look up caramel. What are those called? Caramel Caramel creams.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

Original caramel filled with cream. And cream is in quotes ten pieces. So we'll take five out, and depending on how soon you can guess this movie we're talking about, you'll either have five, four, three, two, one, or zero to eat. So that's the good uh this powdery cream is getting all over me. Uh Right, I don't eat that. So this movie, if you get it right on this one, you have zero caramel creams to eat. So this movie, okay, the main character of this movie has been played by two actors in two different movies. And they each won an Oscar for their performance of this character. And another actor who played this character in a different movie. He didn't win an Oscar for playing this character when he played him, but he's super famous, one of your favorite actors who's won multiple Oscars for other movies. So a very celebrated character is the basis for this other 68% Rotten Tomato movie. Do you have a guess, Sterling?

SPEAKER_04 28:58

Very celebrated character?

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Well, it's like there's been a lot of movies with this character in it.

SPEAKER_04 29:04

Is it like a fairy tale?

SPEAKER_01 29:06

No.

unknown 29:08

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

No, no, no. I'm giving you one. That's one that you have to eat. You don't have to eat it right now. Next clue. The character is a bad guy. And the movie we're talking about is his origin story. So it happens before this character meets the hero who he is famously known for fighting. So bad guy, multiple Oscar-winning actors playing him, very famous villain.

SPEAKER_04 29:32

Very famo. Wait, um I'm getting ready to give it a few. No, no, no, no, no, no. Um my mind immediately went to Leonardo DiCaprio when you said this is one of your favorite apps. No, I feel like it's Hercules, and I don't know why. But it's not Hercules. It's a next clue.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

This guy likes to wear makeup.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

The Joker.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 29:54

I'm just like that.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Alright. You have to eat two of these. One mic, caramel creams. But yeah, the Joker with Joaquin Phoenix got 68%. But Jack Nicholson played the Joker. He was the guy I was telling you about. No, just pound it. Don't pick at it. You just gotta throw it down, throw it back.

SPEAKER_04 30:12

I don't think I can eat this.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

And really tell the audience about what the culinary experience is. You're making a face.

SPEAKER_04 30:19

Ew.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

So do you even like the caramel?

SPEAKER_04 30:21

No.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

And tell us about that cream. How's that hitting you? Is it fresh dairy cream? Feel like it just came out of a cow? Cow's butt. Oh. No, you have to consume it. I can't. You can't spit it. And you have one more to eat. The good news is you only have to eat two. Alright, while you do that, do you want to go one higher or one lower than this on Rotten Care?

SPEAKER_04 30:42

I refuse to eat this.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

You can't refuse to eat it. Alright, well I'll give my one-word review. No, I don't want it. I've had them before.

SPEAKER_04 30:49

They're bad or aren't they?

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Yeah, they're not good. Alright, one higher than this movie at 69%. Horrible bosses.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

Aww.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Which we liked. And a movie called Independence Day about invading aliens, which uh you have not watched. But it's fun. Oh, so here's what we're gonna do. Before we ew. You're really not eating that, are you?

SPEAKER_03 31:09

It's so, so bad.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

And you have one more to pretend to eat. So before we talk about what we're doing on the show next time, you know Friday the 13th has so many sequels, right? It's a mega franchise. Yes. So, what do we have in front of us here, Sterling?

SPEAKER_04 31:25

Uh a Parchey board and a parcheesy roller with two dice in it.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

So you are gonna roll these dice. Try to keep it on the board, uh huh. And whatever you roll will be the number of the next Friday the 13th we watch.

unknown 31:42

Seven.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Friday the thirteenth, part seven. You know which one that is?

SPEAKER_04 31:47

Jason Goes to Space.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

No, that's ten.

SPEAKER_04 31:49

Oh, I really want to.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

I'm sort of hoping you would roll a ten.

SPEAKER_04 31:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

Uh but seven is the new blood, which is where they try to mesh do a like a carry versus Jason.

SPEAKER_04 31:58

Oh, I like that. She has the telekinetic bridge. I like it.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

You haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_04 32:01

I've seen a little bit of it. I've seen a little bit of it.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

But that's what we're gonna crowbar in. So that our next movie is gonna be Friday the 13th, part seven. Good job. And I think that's it, folks, right?

SPEAKER_04 32:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Again, we're back on some sort of schedule, so we'll look for another episode in about two weeks.

SPEAKER_04 32:18

Okay. Um sorry, Dad, you didn't get to talk about your one-member review.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Oh, I'll do that now. Um,