Daddy Daughter Scary Horror 6.13 (Fright Night, 1985)

What to do when you're suffering from a bad case of slasher fatigue in the mid- 80's? You throw back 50 years. Join Eric and Serling as they explore how Hollywood tweaked the formula in 1985 with the fun, should-be-classic, "Fright Night". 

Transcript

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How does it feel to be at a party with both teen wolves?

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It's funny. All right, then.

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All right, sir.

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Lifelong question.

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First of all, welcome back. It's good to see you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Welcome back.

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Um You have a lifelong question?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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All right. Who would you want to live next door to, monster wise?

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Like Donald Trump, I get to live next to the White House. That wouldn't be bad. We're not going to get political. I'm just trying to get him to do uh one of his midnight rants against us on his stupid media platform.

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Uh talking m classic monsters here, not not new ones, but like so not like a Norman Bates or Jason.

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I would not want to live next to Jason.

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Although a quiet little place in the woods, not bad.

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He likes his space though. I feel like I get weed whackered before I ever got my bad nitting net up.

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You know, we could live next door to a creature from the black lagoon. And that is a nice pool out. I'd love that.

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Yeah, it'd keep it pretty black though. Maybe not the most sanitary place to take a dip. You'd want it tropical. Plus he'd be swimming right up there underneath you all creepy like. Fan with the opera. It wouldn't be bad.

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We'd probably have to tell him to keep his operatic music down a lot though.

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I wouldn't mind that. Maybe he'd give you free piano lessons. You know, fifty bucks a pop. That's not cheap.

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Hey, Maria's good though.

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Yeah, she is. Um The other thing about Phantom, downside wise, is that you'd have to run into him at the supermarket and you know, he's a little jarring. No.

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Yeah.

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No, not in suburbia. This is where the uglies move. What? The pretty folks stay in the city. I hope he wouldn't feel like he needed to wear his mask out in public.

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Yeah, but you'd probably love living next to a werewolf.

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Oh, because I do werewolves?

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Yeah. And you'd only have to worry about him like every full moon, which is once a month or something.

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Yeah, yeah. He'd probably drive Ray crazy. Oh yeah. Do you think he'd stay off our property because of uh the new invisible fence that we got installed?

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You'd have to make him wear the collar though.

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He probably wouldn't be down for that. Maybe living next door to a Dracula, uh, like in this movie, would be the best option overall.

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You'd be safe during the day.

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Yeah. It's not like either of us have that rich a nightlife that would be compromised. And you just have to make sure that you never formally invite him over. That's the rule. You probably would though. You'd screw it up.

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How?

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You'd want to look cool and like have him come to your birthday party or something. Okay, yeah, yeah. Try to impress your friends.

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Okay. Getting back on track.

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But Dracula wouldn't be bad next door.

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Where was Fright Night in your growing up experience, 1985? Did you wait, did you see it in the theater?

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Oh, definitely. So yeah, I was 14, maybe, 15. Saw it with my horror movie buddy Brian. I think we persuaded our other friend, Phil, to see it with us. Phil did not like horror movies. He got scared. He didn't want to see it.

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Is Phil the one you told me about who had nightmares after Friday the thirteenth?

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No, that was Justin. Oh gosh, that's a story.

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Tell it, tell it, tell it.

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You really want to hear this?

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Yeah.

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Alright, so we I think it was like I think it was a Dave Dave Stein's twelfth birthday. We rented Friday the 13th. We watched it, and then we were gonna have a sleepover at Justin's and you know the ending, right?

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Yeah.

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So I got to sit back and wait for everybody to be super scared when Jason jumps out of the lake and grabs her. Um and boy was Justin freaked out. And then we all sleep over at his house that night, and guess who has nightmares in the middle of the night and had to have his mom come in the room and calm him down.

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Oh my gosh.

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And then I was the only one who was also up, because you know I can't sleep through anything. John and BJ and Dave, they slept through it. And then I I felt back because at the mall the next day, I think I told them. And then we teased him. I could have just kept my mouth shut and Justin would have been fine. Because everyone else slept through it.

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But are you still friends with Justin? Oh, why? What happened?

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Because he's a sissy who has nightmares after horror movies.

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No, really. Are you still in touch with him?

SPEAKER_04 4:23

Uh no, I'm not.

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Oh, what happened?

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Oh, lots of things, you know. Things that happen in in uh middle school. You grow apart, you piss each other off. You feel like uh maybe I don't have that much in common with this person anymore. It's natural.

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Yeah, but girls, that doesn't happen with girls. We stick together towards the end, maybe.

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We shall see. I hope so. Um but yeah, that was Friday. This is Fright Night. So the three of us went, 1985. Bri Fry and I really liked it. Uh Phil did not, as I recall.

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All right. Recap. We got it straight from the book.

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Yeah, once again, from our good friend John Kenneth Muir. Check out his books, Horror Movies of the 1970s, horror movies of the 1980s.

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Does he cover any other horror decorates?

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Uh not as yet. I went on his site, actually, to look at that. He does mention something interesting in this horror movies of the nineteen eighties book, though. Uh so we were talking about all those copycat movies that came out after a trailblazer movie reinvents the genre and all the movie makers want to cash in on it, right?

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The prospector cash-in.

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Yes, exactly. A good memory. So we talked about this model in the Friday the thirteenth, The New Blood episode. Yeah. Uh anyway, JKM wrote that he reviewed two hundred and twenty-five movies for horror movies from the nineteen seventies and three hundred and twenty-eight from the eighties. That's like a hundred more movies in the eighties. That's like eight more horror movies every oh, that doesn't sound like that much. Yeah, but still there's a point there for you if you want it. Uh but it shows how popular horror got for a while in terms of studios pumping them out on the cheap. But he also wrote that there's a lot more variety and quality in the 70s than there was in the eighties.

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But yeah, I aren't we gonna do a bonus episode about trailblazer movies from each decade, right? Yeah. Yeah. Good. I think it I think that was a really good idea.

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Yeah, because you came up with it. That's why you like it so much. I see what you're doing. Fishing for compliments, chumming for platitude. No, not platitude. Platitude. Plotits.

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Plotits. Okay, let's just get on to the recap.

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So you read this.

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Sorry, it's a heavy book.

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Talk to us about Fright Night. What are we dealing with here?

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Charlie Brewster, a lifelong horror movie fan who is having problems with his girlfriend Amy, becomes convinced that he saw his next door neighbor, Jerry Dandridge, Chris Surrandant, is a vampire who murdered prostitutes by night. Uh when Charlie brings the police in to investigate, Dandridge is. Oh, that was a disaster. Yeah. And his uh live in friend Billy Yeah, his weird live in friend.

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Yeah. What was going on with those two? Anyway.

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But yeah, the vampire retaliates by going after Amy, who resembles Jerry's long lost lover, and Evil Ed, uh Brewster's best buddy.

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Yeah.

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Out of options, Charlie enlists the aid of out of work B movie actor and former Fright Knight TV host, Peter Vincent. The only problem is that, unlike the fearless vampire killer he portrays on the silver screen, Vincent is a coward.

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Yes. Is that it?

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Yeah.

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Wow. So and then they have a big showdown in the house, and uh Peter Vincent uh musters up his courage. He finds his faith at the end. It's kind of a movie about faith. Interesting, which is uh interesting for the eighties where people were losing a lot of faith in a lot of things. Uh trailer.

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What would you do if you accidentally discovered that a house next door was occupied by something not human? Something horrifying. Something unspeakably evil. Not your girlfriend.

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Charlie, is this some sort of a trick to get me back?

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Not even the police. You'll do anything to protect yourself. If you love being scared, this could be the light of your life. A lot going on in that trailer.

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Yeah. Very loud.

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Recommended age. How old's a kid we need to be to watch this?

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Eleven. Eleven.

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I can see that. I'll go along with that.

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Alright, nice.

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Um because there's it's definitely a little bit of violence.

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Mm-hmm. Bit of gore.

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Teeny little bit of nudity. A little tiny little bit of nudity. Not that much. It's fine. Yeah. Eleven works. Um do we recommend this movie? Do you recommend it? Yeah, of course, yeah, definitely. Yeah, this is a fun one. Yeah, so go watch.

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Deep dive.

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Yeah. This is a throwback movie in many ways. Because we talked about how the slasher movies, they sort of played themselves out in the 1980s. All those Prospector Cash, the copycat movies that came out after the success of Halloween and the first Friday the 13th. But that was early, early 80s. And by 82, 83, people were uh sick of the template that had been kind of exhausted by all these gore fest slasher movies. And Fright Knight to test the waters, the old long dormant waters of the 1930s.

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Yeah, let's try a vampire movie again with a Van Helsing kind of character vest to square off.

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Yeah. But uh a reluctant Van Helsing, a non-heroic version who has to be kind of goaded into action by a teenager who's in danger. So it's taking the 80s teen slasher template and mixing in a little old school. So I like that. I give it credit for that. What else was I going to see in 1985 with my horror movie buddy Brian?

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Alright, so we're gonna do something a bit different this time. I'm gonna try to describe uh a movie to you.

SPEAKER_04 11:00

Oh by the poster?

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Yes. Oh, I'm gonna be good at this. But I'm gonna pick one that I'm pretty sure you'll get and one that you probably won't.

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Oh fun. Alright. All right. So what are you giving me first? Something that you think I'll get or something that you're gonna give me something easy first.

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Easy?

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Yeah. Preferably something that we've done on the pod.

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Alright.

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So describe this podcast.

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A ski mask.

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There's a ski mask, and this is 1985. Keep going. Give me a little bit more.

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Um day of the week.

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A day of the week.

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Giving a bit of the title too.

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1985, day of the week. No, wait, you mean a ski mask or a hockey mask?

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Hockey mask.

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Oh. 1985, so it's Friday the thirteenth, a new beginning.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Alright, alright.

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Um now gonna be a harder one. So yeah, that that movie is terrible. But I saw that in the theater too. Uh I think it was my sister Blythe.

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Okay.

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Okay. This looks interesting or cool.

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Sure.

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Um Sun Feel free to play along at home, by the way.

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Sun, orange, zombies.

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Sun, orange.

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There's like a sun in the background.

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Are the zombies cartoonish looking?

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Uh like creep show zombies, kind of.

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Is this uh Return of the Living Dead?

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No, it was Day of the Dead, but Return of the Living Dead is right.

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Oh, Day of the Dead. Why didn't you say zombie holding a gun? Then I would have knew that was Bub. Anyway.

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Yeah, that'd be too big a game.

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Alright, I like this game. Uh so we know Day of the Dead came out in 85, Return of the Living Dead came out, and New Beginning, Friday the 13th. What else?

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Uh Toilet.

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No, no, we're done.

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Green guy.

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Oh, Ghoulies. Yeah. Yeah.

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Uh we have the stuff, creature, silver bullet.

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It's a werewolf movie.

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Creepers, Nightmare on Elm Street 2, Freddy's Revenge, the U.S.

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Nightmare on Elm Street 2, I remember being scary.

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Once bitten.

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That's what Jim Carrey. I think that's Jim Carrey's first movie.

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The Bad Seed, Cat's Eye, Life Force, House.

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Well, Life Force is Toby Hooper. It's uh Vampires in Space.

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Oh, there's Hellhole, if you watch Spinal Talk.

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There's a movie called Hell Hole.

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Yeah.

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And Chiller.

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Folks Lend a Hand. And Chiller?

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Oh, and Teen Wolf. We have Teen Wolf.

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The Michael J. Fox one, yeah.

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Yep.

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You know, there's a very funny story that a famous comedian tells where he was invited to a party, uh, Jason Bateman, who you know, he was in the movie Teen Wolf 2. And this comedian, Dennis Miller, tells the story how he was at uh a party once and Jason Bateman was there and Michael J. Fox was there, and Jason Bateman pulled Dennis Miller aside and whispered in his ear, how's it feel to be at a party with both Teen Wolves? Pretty quick.

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It's funny.

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Alright, where are we? So uh what's your one-word review for Friday night?

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I said enduring.

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Enduring, huh? That's a good one. Why?

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Like it's uh it's got captivating moments, it doesn't lose you, it kind of goes right to the point. The action never goes down, it's basically the climax kind of the whole movie. But oh no, there's a lot of rising action in this.

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It's also enduring because you know they're taking an old school concept and trying to put it in a modern template. Um I said charming. I find this movie very charming, it's very likable, it's very fun, and um damn it, Chris Sarandon is very charming as Jerry Danny. Damn right. He makes a very compelling vampire. I'd let him into my house. I'd say, come on in, have a bloody Mary with me. They're having bloody Mary's when his mom invites him in. That's pretty funny. Good. What do we like about this movie? What am what are my notes?

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I like the acting.

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The acting is good, especially coming off of uh last episode. Friday the thirteenth, seven.

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Uh I liked when no, this is a hmm, never mind. I thought like the whole relationship between Billy and Jerry was very it kind of brought something to the whole Yeah, the roommates.

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The idea of a roommate who's like he's Jerry's protector, so he's the guy who has to watch over him during the day while he's asleep in his coffin full of dirt. And he but he's very funny too. Like there's a lot of humor in this movie that works pretty well. That's another reason why I thought it was charming.

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Yeah, I liked the low introduction to Chris Sarandon's character, Jerry.

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Yeah. He's always eating an apple, too. He is which is sort of suggestive of uh the old Garden of Eden, Satan in the Garden of Eden, tempting man. And there's a lot of suspense in this movie, too. So I still like it. Liked it a lot when I was a little older than you when I first saw it, and uh I I get a big smile on my face every time I I put it on. Okay.

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I have two words for a big plus.

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Yeah.

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Evil Ed.

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Yeah.

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I'm sorry, I love him.

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So Charlie's friend is this sort of dorky guy who knows a lot about horror movie and monsters, and um he's the one who tells Charlie everything that he needs to know to go do battle against this vampire who's living next door to him. But uh Jerry's always one step ahead of Charlie.

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One step ahead.

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Yeah. Uh I like I think the cre the makeup, the creature effects are pretty good. Yes, it's the werewolf effects, we we'll get to that, I think. But um, yeah, good makeup, good acting, clever story.

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Uh yeah, yeah.

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And man, Roddy McDowell is so good as Peter Vincent, Fearless Vampire Killer. He's great.

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He's also kind of charming. That's what I mean.

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He is, that's what I mean. Yeah. Everyone works casting-wise in this.

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Yeah.

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Um, I think there are some legit scary scenes uh when Jerry's tracking Ed down in the alley. Ed's trying to get away from him. Oh, I really like how Peter Vincent goes along with it because he he needs the cash. So Ed and Amy offer him some money if he'll go to Jerry's house with Charlie and prove to Charlie that Jerry isn't a vampire. But they go and they go through all this fake stuff that that Peter Vinson set up, like they have the holy water that's not really holy water, and Jerry drinks it. And um, but then on the way out, Peter Vinson drops his little mirror.

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Yeah, and he sees there's no reflection.

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And it's and he sees there's no yeah, there's no reflection being given by Jerry.

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And then you feel that little I don't know, I felt something in my stomach. I was like, oh. Like the first time I saw this, I was like, yeah.

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Yeah, it's a good moment. And then what's really cool is that they leave. So now Peter Vincent is on Charlie's side, but that just makes him more scared. He just wants to get out of there.

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And then Jerry thinks everything's fine, and then he steps on like pulled the wool over their eyes. And then he steps like the little on the little piece of glass and he's like, Yeah, there's a little crunch under his foot. Well, might have been discovered.

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Now we have to kill them all. And that's a great little turn. Like they were all safe. And then they know my secret.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:03

They've gotta die. So I like that. And he certainly spotlight this week.

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Yeah. I have Evil Ed.

SPEAKER_04 18:09

Oh, right. What's his name? Stephen Jeffries. Jeffrey Lewis is someone else. Stephen Jeffries, yeah. I've seen him in one other movie.

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Heaven Help Us. Heaven Help Us. He was in fraternity vacation.

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Okay, probably.

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Uh at close range.

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Oh, that's uh Sean Penn and um I think Christopher Watkins in that too. Yeah, we need to watch that.

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Uh he was nominated for Broadway's Tony Award for Best Performance as by featured actor in a musical. For what? Uh there's a play based on the human comedy, and for for his role he won the Theatre World Award in 1984.

SPEAKER_04 18:49

Wow. Yeah. Cool. Didn't know that about him. Stephen Jeffries. Good for him. So he really peaked in eighty-four, eighty-five. I don't know what he did after this. What else can you tell us about him? Um He's not dead, is he? Because you usually just pick your spotlights just so you can tell us when they died and how they died. Please still be alive, Stephen Jeffries.

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Um Yeah, he is still alive.

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Oh good.

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Yeah, and he's also still he's still acting. Oh good. Yeah.

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Do you have any of the titles that he's done lately?

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Mainly just musicals and plays. Oh, cool. It doesn't say anything besides human comedy things.

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Okay.

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But yeah, and he's 61 years old.

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Yeah, that tracks.

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Alright.

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Any hmms? Anything that was not really a plus, not really a minus in this for you?

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Probably Charlie.

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You didn't like him that much as an actor?

SPEAKER_02 19:40

Yeah. He seemed very um seemed too innocent for his character. He seemed very like Well, I think that's part of his journey and part of his struggle. I get that. But then like it's the acting that kind of bothered me in some in some scenes. In some t scenes he was good, and I was like, okay, I can deal with this.

SPEAKER_04 19:55

But he went on to be in a pretty popular television show called Herman's Head. And I know uh that show Justify that I watched for a little while. Yeah. But he still has a very boyish face, even though he's much, much older now. But I was like, oh, Frightnight guy, Charlie Brewster. You're so cool. Oh my hmm is I don't really like the dance club scene.

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Thank you.

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Where he like seduces Amy on the dance floor and has her under his spell.

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And like I like that, but then there's that whole like grabbing scene.

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Yeah.

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Like you could cut that out.

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Borderline inappropriate. And I think if they had she like falls under his spell very quickly. I think if you found out a little bit more of the backstory of this woman in the portrait, who he's uh you get the feeling it's Jerry's long-lost love and she kind of looks like her. And if he were telling her about that and you find out a little bit more about that as part of this hypnotism scene that brings her over to his side, I think that would have been more effective. But I don't know, his mid-80s. They needed a loud song in the middle there and some flashy purple clothes. I love the scene where he tracks down Evil Ed in the alley. And he turns him. He's like, You don't have to run, Ed. No one's ever gonna make fun of you anymore. You'll live forever. He's selling him on being a vampire. And Ed's just sitting there crying in the alley. It's pretty it's a pretty heartbreaking scene.

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Evil Ed has the saddest and Evil Ed has the funniest and most sad scene.

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It's and then Jerry just reaches out his hand and Ed takes his hand. And you're like, oh, Ed, don't.

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And I do have an SUF.

SPEAKER_04 21:38

Well, Ed's gotta be your S UF. Obviously. Yeah. Well, let's say we can get more into that maybe when we get to Coolest Kill. Not to show my cards too early. But how about SGS moments? And he certainly got scared, certainly got suspensified, certainly got spooked.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

I must admit when Ed is pretending to be Charlie's mom asleep in the bed and then reveals himself and he's been turned by Chris Surrey.

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It was a cool moment, but I wouldn't say I was like No, you jumped the first time.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

I was surprised. And then the double at SGS because I got sad when he died.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

Yeah. He was definitely your unfortunate favorite of the movie. He has a great death.

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It's so tragic.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

Yeah. And it's a resonating moment for a kid to watch. If I had been a little younger when this came out, I would have totally identified with Ed. Did you identify more with Ed or with Charlie or with Amy and this?

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Ed and Charlie.

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I think I identified with a little bit Ed, a little bit Peter Vinson at this point in my life. That's the cool thing about a movie like this that has teenage characters and then older characters who are well written and well developed. Like you can watch a movie like this at different stages of your life and be like, I'm a little bit more like that guy now.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

Oh, actually, sorry. Um I do have a hmm.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

So not a plus, not a minus somewhere in the middle where when Billy kind of turns into like that zombie thing?

SPEAKER_02 23:03

You're not quite sure what he is. Yeah, it's like wait, I thought you were just a human.

SPEAKER_04 23:07

He's trying to protect Jerry and they like shoot him a bunch of times and then. Yeah, and then they just he stabs him with a piece of wood from the banister, and that's what kills him. Like six bullets doesn't take you down, but a sliver of wood does. So are you a vampire? Because you're not, because you're the one who's awake during the day.

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Yeah.

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I don't know what you are, dude. He should have been a werewolf because he would have been safe during the day, and then Jerry could have protected him at night when he's, you know, put the collar on and make sure he stays within the perimeter of the place. That would have been better. Same guy who directed this, directed Chris Arandon in Child's Play a couple years later. So they liked working together. Tom Holland is the name of the writer and director here. Um Fight Flight Freeze. What's Fight Flight Freeze, Sterling? Oh. Pause for hit single, please.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

Oh, a flight will be given the buttons.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

Stop it.

SPEAKER_04 24:03

So brain gets terrified. Characters in the movie.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

They already know this for like. Only if they've listened to the past.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

And what does the brain do? It has three options, right? Fight. So who fights in this movie?

SPEAKER_02 24:15

Charlie. Uh Peter Vincent.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

Eventually Peter Vincent does fight. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Ed.

SPEAKER_04 24:23

Uh how about flight?

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Uh Amy kind of tries to flee. Oh, Peter Vincent tries to flee.

SPEAKER_04 24:29

Yeah, he tries to get the heck out of that house once he knows the real scoop.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

Oh, and Ed flees through the alley. Yeah, tries as we talked about.

unknown 24:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:37

And freeze. I think there's a lot of freezing in this. There is.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

There's Amy, uh Charlie, Peter Vincent. Ed. Everyone freezes.

SPEAKER_04 24:47

Ed freezes when he's cornered in the alley. Peter Vincent freezes. Uh yeah, a lot of freezing in moments of terror in this movie. Uh coolest kill.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Three. Three.

SPEAKER_04 24:59

Two one and other than the prostitutes, he's the only one who dies in this who isn't a bad guy.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Okay. My second favorite kill is probably when he's like bringing down the blinds with his long fingers and you see like the fingernails. I thought that was cool.

SPEAKER_04 25:14

One of the prostitutes.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

Because then you leave your mind to just imagine what he's doing.

SPEAKER_04 25:19

It is cool. There are a lot of effective moments, and the story really kind of ratchets up and holds in a very satisfying way. So we both agree that Evil Ed is the great kill of the movie. Tell us about his death.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

Okay. So Ed is full-on werewolf. He's like in his dog form.

SPEAKER_04 25:38

Yeah, I think he's he's another vampire, but vampires can shape shift. So he scares Peter Vincent by pretending to be the mom in the bed.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

And then uh Peter Vincent, he's trying to like talk Ed out of this. He's like, no, you don't want to do this, Ed. There's still Ed in you. But Ed Ed's kind of gone.

SPEAKER_04 25:55

He's fully turned. And then Peter Vincent kind of accidentally kills him after he's turned into the wolf.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

Ed kind of like lunges at Peter Vincent and Peter Vincent grabs like the stake.

SPEAKER_04 26:08

It's like again from the banister of the of the staircase.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Like grabs it out and he and he stabs Ed. And then Ed whimpers and falls off the staircase. And then we see him and he's like dragging himself underneath the staircase. And Peter Vincent feels awful, so he goes to check on him and we just see like a naked Ed sad scream.

SPEAKER_04 26:28

Transforming back into his human form. Yeah, it's so much more. Oh no, he's sad and alone. And he reaches out for Peter. And Peter almost takes it, but he's like, oh no.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

I can't.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

Yeah, it's a great death. One of the better deaths in any of the movies that we watched. Highly recommend this death, folks.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Yeah. Guess the tomato.

SPEAKER_04 26:48

What do you think this got on Rotten Tomatoes?

SPEAKER_02 26:50

84%.

SPEAKER_04 26:52

83%? So that puts us in the category. We've got some good company for this. Flash Gordon.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

Ooh.

SPEAKER_04 27:01

83%. Dune, the new version of Dune. Not the one that came in.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

Zenday.

SPEAKER_04 27:08

Is that how you say her name? Zendaya.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

Zendaya.

SPEAKER_04 27:11

Yes. Yeah. And uh the Wonka Kid.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

Yeah. And um Superman, new one from 2025. That got the 83%. So, and how do we play Guess the Tomatoes? Because I've got another movie that scored 83% on Rotten Tomatoes, same as this movie. And what should I do?

SPEAKER_02 27:31

Should I give you some five hints obscure at first and getting gradually simpler.

SPEAKER_04 27:37

Guess what the stakes are today? We're playing four chores. Specifically washing dishes. So the quicker you get this, the fewer nights this week you have to be in charge of dishwashing.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Well, this game sucks.

SPEAKER_04 27:54

We'll see.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

Maybe you'll nail it. Because you have seen this 83% movie.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

Well then.

SPEAKER_04 28:00

So if you get it on this, you only have one night of dish duty. Actually, if you get this, no nights of dish duty. You could get off scot-free if you get it on this first clue. The late great Catherine O'Hara is in this movie. She plays a not very good artist.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

A not very good artist?

SPEAKER_04 28:17

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

Why did my mind say home alone? No. No, no, that's not my guess.

SPEAKER_04 28:22

That is a guess. And if you get it now, you have one night of dish duty. An actor who once played Batman is the star of this movie. So a lot of actors have played Batman, handful.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Yeah, that's.

SPEAKER_04 28:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

Okay. Um.

SPEAKER_04 28:36

So what actor who played Batman is in a movie with Catherine O'Hara?

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Trying to think of Batman players.

SPEAKER_04 28:43

It's not Will Arnett.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

Is it a comedy? Just tell me. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:50

You ready for Two Nights at Dishes?

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Wait, is it animated?

SPEAKER_04 28:53

That's that would be another clue. Two Nights of Dishes. The girl who's the main character in this is in another movie directed by the same director, Tim Burton. She's in Edward Sesarhands. She's also in this movie that we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Wait, wait, I got this. I got this. Um Tim Burton.

SPEAKER_04 29:11

I'll give you her name for free. Winona Ryder.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

Beetlejuice.

SPEAKER_04 29:14

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

Alright, not bad. Not bad.

SPEAKER_04 29:17

You got two nights of dishes.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Wait, he played Batman?

SPEAKER_04 29:20

Yeah, Michael Keaton.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 29:21

He was like in 1989 or 1990, he was Batman. With uh Jack Nicholson as the Joker.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

That's what that was from.

SPEAKER_04 29:30

Not as good as I remembered it when we tried to watch it a little while ago. Uh you want to go one higher or one lower than Fright Knight on Reddit? One higher those. One higher? Some good movies here. 84%. The others, which I've been talking to you about a lot, ghost stories. No, it's about a bunch of ghosts. And um another movie about ghosts, The Shining, is at 84%. Did you say The Shining is one better than Fright Knight? I would put it a little higher than that.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

I would put it at like at least five higher.

SPEAKER_04 30:01

Okay. Uh one lower than this, The Fall Guy with Ryan Gosling, who we just saw in that movie. What's it called?

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Project Hail Mary.

SPEAKER_04 30:09

Yeah, that was good.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

I recommend. It's long. So have a good attention span.

SPEAKER_04 30:13

Um also at 82%. Colossal, which is Anne Hathaway controlling a giant kaiju monster.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

Oh, is that you heard about that? Yeah, and that like you step into the sandbox and then she's controlling it.

SPEAKER_04 30:26

I don't know much about it, other than it sounds cool.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

It does.

SPEAKER_04 30:29

Alright. So we'll watch that next time we go through the seas.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

You see?

SPEAKER_04 30:35

You see? Also, F1 with Brad Pitt. Um I don't think his brother Stu is in that.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Oh. I don't know who he is.

SPEAKER_04 30:44

Stu Pitt. Thank you. I'm leaving. And Guardians of the Galaxy was 82%. This movie's better than Guardians of the Galaxy, right? A lot of people rather disagree.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

Alright. Next time.

SPEAKER_04 30:59

No.

SPEAKER_02 30:59

Never mind. Oh, pherometer. I'm going to go. Yeah, what'd you give this?

SPEAKER_04 31:03

How scary is this movie?

SPEAKER_02 31:05

I give this a three.

SPEAKER_04 31:07

I had it at a four, then I took it down to three point five. There's some suspense. There's that, there's the good moments with Evil Ed. There's good makeup and fright effects. There's a really cool makeup effect with Amy when she's the vampire.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Ooh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:22

That's excellent. Her hair looks like five. How about the phenometer?

SPEAKER_02 31:27

How fun was this movie? Um I said I said eight. I guess that I went seven point five.

SPEAKER_04 31:33

Yeah. It's uh it's a giggle fest, this one. And it's legitimately thrilling. It's got its scares and it's got its uh chuckles. Yeah. Impact and so they did remake this movie with Colin Farrell. I didn't see it. And there was a part two. Didn't do very well.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 31:53

So I gave it a six.

SPEAKER_02 31:55

I give it a five. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 31:57

But Fright Night, we're happy you existed because it's fun to watch you every once in a while.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Alright. So next time on DDSHD Spad, were you missing animals getting angry? Well, break out the compound W. What's that?

SPEAKER_04 32:13

Oh, you put it on warts if you get warts. And that should tell you everything you need to know to get as excited about next time as we are. Finally happening. It's finally happening. You're talking about thrilling?

SPEAKER_02 32:25

It's an animal that goes ribbit ribbot with a long tongue.

SPEAKER_04 32:28

Now you're just giving way too much away. It also stars another Oscar winner.

SPEAKER_02 32:34

It does? Is it Chris Arandon?

SPEAKER_04 32:36

Chris Sorandon was only nominated. He didn't win. But our next movie stars an actual Oscar winner.

unknown 32:42

Ooh. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

Sean Connery?

SPEAKER_04 32:44

Nope.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 32:45

Raymoland.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

Yeah, I know you don't know.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:49

But you will.

SPEAKER_02 32:49

Alright. We'll see you next time for Raymoland. Um, it's another old movie.

SPEAKER_04 32:55

70s. But man, great poster for this one. Hanging on the wall right over there.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Ah, there it is.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

Alright, guys. Thanks. We'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:08

Just trying to drag out this ending as long as I can. Trying to get this to 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

45. 45. Wait, no. Wait, no, it's getting there.