Daddy Daughter Scary Horror 6.16 (The Funhouse, 1981)

Something wicked cool this way comes.  Eric and Serling dare to enter Tobe Hooper's under-known 1981 fright fest.  Find out more about the movie that got him the gig directing "Poltergeist" a year later.  Enjoy DDSH's last movie of the Fs!

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SPEAKER_04 0:00

But how cool would that have been? Like uh living next to Toby Hooper?

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Yeah, I You don't care. No, I do care.

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All right, just recap the movie.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Sorry, everyone. We were going to try to sneak a bonus episode in this month, but we kind of ran out of time.

SPEAKER_04 0:41

Oh, you were pretty busy.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Mm-hmm.

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Tell the fans out there what you've been up to. It's caused us to neglect our bonus podcasting duties.

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Last day of sixth grade. Last year anymore. As of today. Parties to go to, piano recital tomorrow.

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You have a party in an hour. So we're going to try to sneak this in.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

I have auditions.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

Yeah, you find out your music man part tomorrow, Marion.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:07

Oh. You think you're going to get Harold Hill? That would be excellent. Uh-uh. I'm not going to I'm probably played dudes before.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

I know, but I'll probably get like the Mrs. Mayor, because they want me. It's a comedic relief. If I do, don't be upset.

SPEAKER_04 1:19

I'm not going if you don't get Marion. You got a piano recital tomorrow, too. Wow. Yes. So busy.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

We'll get this up before the end of the month, right? How many days do we have left?

SPEAKER_04 1:27

Like um sorry, not sure I heard you right there. Did you ask how many days do we have before the end of the month? We.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

You?

SPEAKER_04 1:34

Yeah. Unless you're gonna help me edit this down and get it posted now that you're school free. What had you been doing for the last week of school? Like your teachers were like done with you for the year playing. Playing kickballs having you do laps of nonsense during your last week and a half.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

But yeah, in German, our teacher was just kind of I think she was done with us. We were honestly just watching movies for the last week of school. Not regular movies. They made us watch Did you watch Dust Boot? No. But they made us watch The Incredibles. Wait in German.

SPEAKER_04 2:05

Well at least they made you watch it in German.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Yeah, but then um for the past three days she just gave up and now we're just watching them all in English. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:14

Nice to know they limped across the finish line there. But yeah, we've got some summer plans competing for our podcasting attention. We're going to Kent, Connecticut next weekend for your cousin Maggie's engagement party.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

Yay.

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And hopefully, fingers crossed, we're gonna take a tour of um where they filmed Friday the thirteenth, part two.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

I'm excited for that.

SPEAKER_04 2:37

I am excited for that too. Uh Serling, do you remember when I took you to the fun house in Ocean City on the boardwalk?

SPEAKER_00 2:47

I do not.

SPEAKER_04 2:48

Well, you were maybe three and a half, three and three quarters. Why would I remember that, Dad? Well, I've got to tell you. Um so we were on the boardwalk riding the rides, and we were on the flume, right? On our way to the top. Kind of ratchet you up there on the little conveyor belt thing, getting ready for the first plunge, so we could see the entire boardwalk and all the attractions below us, and you pointed right to the spook house. You don't remember this, huh?

SPEAKER_00 3:15

I don't.

SPEAKER_04 3:15

It was a dark ride, which means you get into like a little cart, they roll you in through a winding series of like spooky animatronic stuff and fog and loud noises.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Loud noises.

SPEAKER_04 3:27

And you really wanted to go on it. And I took you. Hesitated for maybe a second or two, but I took you. And you hated it from the second we banged through the doors that let us in. You were really scared.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

I mean, I was three, Dad.

SPEAKER_04 3:42

I know. Three and a half, three and three quarters, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

Three and a half.

SPEAKER_04 3:46

But it's kind of like with scary movies, right?

SPEAKER_00 3:48

Yeah, you see a trailer and it looks cool.

SPEAKER_04 3:50

Right. And there's a part of you, especially when you're a kid, you're drawn to that kind of like uh like a safe danger? Right, yeah, like fake danger in highly controlled circumstances.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

Did I have nightmares after the ride?

SPEAKER_04 4:03

No, you were fine.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 4:05

You didn't want to like try it again the next day or anything like that, but you were fine. Um another question for you, Sterling. When I say the name Toby Hooper, what does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Jaws.

SPEAKER_04 4:17

Why? Oh, because of Hooper?

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Yeah. Um Toby Hooper. Uh uh Makeup Effects. No. Special effects.

SPEAKER_04 4:25

He's the director of this movie. And he also directed Texas Chainsaw Maskers.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

Really?

SPEAKER_04 4:30

Yeah. And he also directed Poltergeist. So you've seen a couple of his movies. But here's what I want you to know. He was almost our neighbor when we lived in LA.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Really?

SPEAKER_04 4:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

My gosh.

SPEAKER_04 4:42

One of our first Halloween's there, we were going around, you were a baby, and w the street next to us, they had like a leather face statue or like lawn decoration or something. And I commented on it and they were like, Oh, you know, uh the director of Texas Chainsaw Master came and looked at this house. He almost bought this house. And I was like, Are you telling me that Toby Hooper almost lived within eighty feet of me? I was like, Yeah, he came really, really close. I think he put it like an offer in or something like that. But then he got another place. But how cool would that have been? Like living next to Toby Hooper?

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Yeah, I You don't care. No, I do care.

SPEAKER_04 5:21

Alright, just recap the movie.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

Okay, so we start off with these strict parents who have two children, a mischievous boy who likes to drink.

SPEAKER_04 5:27

You think they're strict parents?

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Yeah, I thought they were.

SPEAKER_04 5:30

They seemed like the mom's a drunk for one thing. Well, yeah. She's like the worst and totally checked out. The dad's a little grumpy pants about his daughter going out on a date. I I thought they were a bit they're not great parents.

SPEAKER_00 5:43

Yeah. Um, so we start off with these Well, we start off with a girl taking a shower. Well, yeah. I don't want to talk about that poor diet.

SPEAKER_04 5:50

Okay, we'll talk about that later, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Um and the parents have two children, a mischievous boy who likes to cause trouble.

SPEAKER_04 5:57

Yeah. Um He's a bit of a jerk.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

Yeah, and kind of like a rebellious teen-ish. So she goes out with her sleazy boyfriend Buzz, who picks her up in like this weird truck. It's like a sports car.

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Muscle car.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

Yeah. So um she meets up with her friends and uh they all go to a fair.

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Liz and Richie.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

Liz, Richie, and Buzz and Amy. And so they all visit the sideshows, but after the teens decide that, hey, why not spend the night at the funhouse, right?

SPEAKER_04 6:26

Right. Not a not a bad idea, but don't do that.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Don't worry, I I won't. Anyway, while getting comfortable and kind of like exploring the wonders through the rides, um, they noticed a masked worker who doesn't speak, and um they notice him strangle a fortune teller after an argument over a fee.

SPEAKER_04 6:44

Yeah, so they're in the funhouse, they've snuck in and then they're sort of looking down through the crack floor, and they see what's going on underneath, and it's like the office of the carnival guys. And yeah, the this weird figure in a mask who's silent. He doesn't he's mute.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

He's got like a Frankenstein mask on, which we'll also talk about.

SPEAKER_04 7:06

And he yeah, strangles the fortune teller. He tries to he tries to have sex with her.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Yeah. So they have like a prostitute fee kind of. And after Richie notices the stash of money that the fortune teller has and decides to steal it. But he makes kind of like a noise trying to get out. Him and his friends are they're trying to get out because they're like, it's I don't like it here. They just watched a murder happen, and so they try to get out through these big kind of like metal doors. Yeah. They make a noise. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

They're locked in, which is what they wanted.

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So the noise alerts the killer and his father, who immediately notice and freak out about the missing money.

SPEAKER_04 7:45

Which Richie steals.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Uh and then don't do that either.

SPEAKER_04 7:50

Don't steal from Carnage.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

And Richie accidentally drops his lighter through the floorboards, which gives them away. Yeah. And so they know that the people are here and they begin searching for them. And we also find out that the guy underneath the Frankenstein's mask is the like the son of the head carnival guy. And he's this deformed kind of monster.

SPEAKER_04 8:12

And we also find out that he's had a history of having some violence in this carnival that travels from town to town to town.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Yeah, and the father's trying to like protect his son from the public.

SPEAKER_04 8:23

But he's not the nicest dad either. He's a little abusive. And so now if you're hiding in this funhouse, you've got this crazy carnival guy and his deformed monster son looking for you. So good luck. And what happens?

SPEAKER_00 8:38

So the teens kind of like go out one by one and these like the deaths are just very they get you really into the movie. They kind of like pull you closer to the plot.

SPEAKER_04 8:48

Well, they and they suck you into the ride itself. And they do a good job because they don't like split up and try to look for different ways out. They they say, like, we gotta stick together. So they're they're being smart. It's not like a typical horror movie where they're making dumb mistake after dumb mistake. Yeah. Dumb idea to spend the night in the fun house, dumb idea to steal the money out of the cash box. But after that, they have a pretty good strategy on how they're gonna at least survive the night.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Yeah, but um But they don't. Eventually only Amy is left, and there's this really cool scene where she has like this kind of final showdown with the monster.

SPEAKER_04 9:27

Yeah, in the bowels of the fun house with all amongst all the gears and the and the and the hooks.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

I don't know where there were hooks, uh, but okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:35

Well, because it's the director of Texas Jane's on Massacre, so there's gotta be a little brutality. Uh so yeah, that's that's the fun house.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Give me that trailer.

SPEAKER_04 9:44

Give me that sweet, sweet trailer.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Who is bad enough to enter that world of darkness? Something is alive in the fun house. Something not alive like its father. Something better dead. Something that has the form of a human, but not the face. Something that feeds off the flesh and beyond. The fun house coming stone from Universal Pictures. The fun house. It's a carnival of terror from Toby Hooper, the director who terrified you with the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Toby Hooper, good choice.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

Yeah, but still maybe not seen as like the safest choice to direct a major studio movie. So Chainsaw uh was made by him and his buddies kind of post-college. So this movie and his TV version of Salem's Lot, which he did.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

Bad book. Well, I liked other Stephen King books, just not that one.

SPEAKER_04 11:23

Yeah. Um I liked Hooper's uh Salem's Lot. It was a little slow, it but it was a TV movie, and I think it played over two nights. So, but that and this Funhouse actually paved the way for uh Stevie Spielberg to tap Toby Hooper to direct Poltergeist the next year, so in eighty-two. And that movie was uh huge, huge hit. Blockbuster. Biggest success of Toby Hooper's directing career.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Yeah, so Funhouse did okay.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

It made about twice its budget. Uh and you said movies need to make three times what they cost.

SPEAKER_04 11:57

At least, yeah, because you gotta pay for all the advertising and all the prints of the film that need to go out to all the theaters.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

Mm-hmm. And they rented an actual carnival to shoot the movie in which was Yeah, well they would have had to. But they used all the carnival workers as extras in the movie. And it I think it I think that made it feel real. They built the fun house though. That was a set. Um and they found someone who was a collector of those little like mechanical dolls that they used.

SPEAKER_04 12:28

A few of them are a little terrifying.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Yes, they're all of them were creepy, a few legitimately frightening ones, or at least frightening if you were running into them while trapped in a funhouse.

SPEAKER_04 12:37

And they're really old looking. So I think they said in the the thing that we were watching, like they were built in like the twenties and they've they still worked.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Oh, Dad, um what's your recommended age?

SPEAKER_04 12:48

Oh, right, we forgot that. Um what's yours?

SPEAKER_00 12:51

Uh I said twelve. I said twelve too.

SPEAKER_04 12:55

Yeah. Uh that's a little older than when I saw it. I was like 11 and a half. So I think twelve is a pretty b safe bet. It did stick in my memory as an eleven and a half year old. There's something something about the atmosphere of this film that doesn't allow you to just shoo it away in your head. It it uh it kind of sticks and permeates. What did you think?

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Um I said twelve because I thought that a solid twelve-year-old could handle this. Like, yes, there is some violence and some gore and some like inappropriate scenes, but I think it's oh like overall mature twelve-year-olds could see this.

SPEAKER_03 13:27

If you're watching horror movies, scary movies with your kid and they're twelve, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:31

I think that that's a safe age for this. Um alright. So what's your one-word review?

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Uh my one-word review was exciting.

SPEAKER_04 13:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

Because I think that sometimes it would lose its point just like slightly, but lose its point in the story and would kind of like trail off, but then it would kind of go right back and kind of just jab you with this exciting new detail of like a new death or a new plot twist.

SPEAKER_04 13:58

It's kind of set up so that you're feeling what the characters are feeling, because they're going through this carnival and you're kind of watching them be scared and entertained, and you're being scared and entertained by the movie, so it's it's kind of reflexive like that, which is neat. Uh I said unnerving. And I don't know whether it's the aged look of the film at this point, although I had a similar reaction, like I was saying, when I was eleven and a half. But uh the beginning silly. But then from the moment when you're downstairs in Amy's house and you meet her those weird parents, you got her overprotective, judgmental dad, and obviously troubled mom. But nothing feels comfortable. Even as she's sitting there on the couch watching TV with them and like Bride of Frankenstein's on in the background.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

A lot of Frankenstein in this.

SPEAKER_04 14:48

Yeah, well, they made it at Universal, so they had all the copyrights so they could use as much Frankenstein as they want.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

And the monster in this, the deformed son of the carnival Barker.

SPEAKER_04 14:58

Gunther is his name. The character.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

Yeah, uh Gunther is wearing like this. The Frankenstein mask to hide the fact that he's this disfigured, frightening looking person underneath. He kinda it kind of just wants to be loved. He doesn't get it a lot from his dad.

SPEAKER_04 15:14

Which is kind of like the actual Frankenstein monster, right? So he gets created by Dr. Frankenstein, and then Dr. Frankenstein don't want doesn't want anything to do with him, and then he becomes this tragic figure, a little bit like Gunther in this movie.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

And uh we were watching a making of for the movie, and the guy who played Gunther was actually a professional mime.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

So Toby Hooper hired him because he had a lot to do with his body because the character couldn't speak. And that um that's sort of like in Halloween because the guy who played Michael Myers who who was the actor? Do you know him?

SPEAKER_04 15:46

Yeah, his name is Nick Castle. He also co-wrote Escape from New York with John Carpenter.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Yeah, and he was a dancer, right?

SPEAKER_04 15:54

That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

That's why John Carpenter hired him.

SPEAKER_04 15:57

Uh-huh. Very interesting. You did uh some real homework for this one.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

I did. Well, I didn't have any homework for school this week since our teachers basically ended their school year days ago.

SPEAKER_04 16:06

Uh you want to talk pluses?

SPEAKER_00 16:08

I actually want to go to class of before we Oh right, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 16:10

What class of 1981? This is a big one. I know this is a good year for horror movies.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

And we'll play the game where I describe a poster to you and you have to guess.

SPEAKER_04 16:19

Yeah, oh I love this game. Alright, um So we're gonna describe the poster thing first for me?

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 16:24

Alright, so give me an easy one that you think I'll get, and then give me a hard one that you don't.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Alright. Um What have we got? Is a person being fed stuff on like a kebab?

SPEAKER_04 16:36

Happy birthday to me. Yeah. Nice me. Yeah, we haven't watched that one. I've never seen that one. But very famous poster. Yeah, there's a kebab kill.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

There is?

SPEAKER_04 16:46

Uh-huh. Well, presumably from the poster. If there's no kebab kill in that movie, I'm gonna be very disappointed because that's how the thing's marketed.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Alright. Um this is a harder one. Okay. It's like a girl screaming until That's every horror movie. Well, yeah, um, but it's like this dark poster. There are two hearts on the poster in a word.

SPEAKER_04 17:09

And a girl screaming.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

But there's like this guy, I think he's holding her face. Um kind of looks like he was trying to kiss her, but then she was like, ah.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

So not my bloody valentine? It is my bloody valentine. Oh, awesome.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

It was hard to describe it, because like it's such a dark poster. Like, look at this.

SPEAKER_04 17:27

It's not uh You're not describing the poster that I think Yeah, it's not the poster I'm thinking of for my bloody valentine.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 17:33

It's more focused on the mask. But interesting. And I nailed it. That's the important thing. What else came out in 81?

SPEAKER_00 17:39

Uh Halloween 2.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Evil Dead.

SPEAKER_04 17:42

There's another part two comes out in 81 that I know of off the screen. Scanners. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:47

Uh Strange Behavior.

SPEAKER_04 17:49

Don't know that one.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Ghost Story.

SPEAKER_04 17:52

Yeah, we're gonna watch that next season.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

American Werewolf in London.

SPEAKER_04 17:55

Right. And The Howling.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

The Dark Knight of the Scarecrow. Which seems like Dark Knight of the Scarecrow.

SPEAKER_04 18:00

Yeah, it's got a scary-looking monster thing.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

I've been looking at that. I don't like that. The Hand.

SPEAKER_04 18:05

That's with Michael Kane.

SPEAKER_00 18:07

The Prowler.

SPEAKER_04 18:08

Written by um, what's his name? Uh Oliver Stone. The Prowler is uh ha has some excellent Tom Savini gore.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Piranha 2.

SPEAKER_04 18:18

Hmm, there's a big year for sequels, 1981.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

Friday the 13th, Purana 2, yep. Uh The Black Hat.

SPEAKER_04 18:26

Don't know that. Uh reboot. The black cat or the black hat?

SPEAKER_00 18:31

Cat.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

Cat.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Student bodies.

SPEAKER_04 18:34

Uh, that doesn't count as a horror, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

Venom.

SPEAKER_04 18:38

Oh, that's with Klaus Kinski and Oliver Reed, I think. Is that Venom or is that Sss? Both about snakes.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

The Pottsville horror or The Being. Sorry. It has two titles. Oh, yeah, the Being on it.

SPEAKER_04 18:52

The Being I've heard of. That's a better title.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

The Boogans.

SPEAKER_04 18:57

Never seen that. And then there are a few more than a game.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

We've already mentioned them.

SPEAKER_04 19:01

Great year for horror movies. Maybe the best year for horror movies, let's be honest. And a great year for movies overall. You got Escape from New York, previously mentioned on this podcast. You also have Raiders of the Lost Dark.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

You also have like Oh, that's creepy. Sorry, I'm looking at photos from the being and I'm looking at the creatures.

SPEAKER_04 19:19

Yeah, I never saw it. It's basically like an alien thing, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:22

This is the thing. I'm sorry. That looks like the thing.

SPEAKER_04 19:24

And that's I remember the VCR box.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

Alright, let's talk pluses.

SPEAKER_04 19:28

Yeah, what do we like about this movie?

SPEAKER_00 19:30

I mean, the acting wasn't bad overall.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

I think the acting was pretty good overall.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

I liked the magician guy. That was kind of like a William Starling jumpscare at the end.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

Yeah, was that one of your SGS's? I mean, we'll get to it.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

It might have been.

SPEAKER_04 19:43

Okay. Yeah, he was good as that uh Carney magician. He was in a movie called Phantom of the Paradise. He worked a lot with Brian De Palma. He was in uh Sisters and Dress to Kill. I think he was also in the Black Dahlia. That may have been his last movie. Um and he's also in another Toby Hooper movie, Eaten Alive, which we were gonna do in the Ease, but did not.

SPEAKER_00 20:06

The fortune teller is good until um Gunther kills her.

SPEAKER_04 20:10

Yeah, that's Sylvia Miles, Academy Award nominee.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

Not for this.

SPEAKER_04 20:15

Nope. Uh for a movie called Midnight Cowboy, starring uh Dorothy Michaels. Uh the guy who plays the the main the the dad in this is really No, I mean the Carnival Barker guy. The the Gunther. Oh we got a Sterling Spotlight.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

It's just magic. Please watch Last One Laughing, British version.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

Okay, good. I'm excited that we're gonna have a Sterling Spotlight. I liked the Frankenstein Monster Mask. I thought it was really frightening. And we'll talk about the other side of this plus for me in a bit.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

But um I like that the monster is walking around the carnival in the mask.

SPEAKER_04 20:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

And he's just working his job, going about his business with all these people around him who think he's just a normal carnival employee in a weird mask, that he's just getting people in and out of the carts to take them through the ride.

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Yeah. That's how abnormal people pass for normal in everyday life. They wear like figurative masks in society. We're all hiding something.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

I like that Amy seems sort of psychically connected to the carnival. Yeah. Because this is something we saw in the making of the documentary.

SPEAKER_04 21:21

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

She locks eyes with each of the three carnival workers that that same actor plays. And they make it a point that she is plugged into what this world is in a way that her dumb friends aren't at all.

SPEAKER_04 21:32

And same when she's getting her fortune told by it's her getting the fortune read. I liked the design of the fun house and all the animatronics, which we sort of talked about. It sort of reminded me of a movie we did to start off this season, Five Nights of Freddy's. Although this is way better.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

We can also connect it to Freaks, which we also watched this season.

SPEAKER_04 21:55

Indeed, we can. What else did we like?

SPEAKER_00 21:58

I liked kind of how

SPEAKER_04 22:03

Yeah, they ha there are a couple of cool crane shots where it as the carnival is shutting down and they're shutting down all the lights and the carnival workers are sort of packing things up. Uh there's this really high crane shot and you can see everybody leaving, and then there's just kind of one car left in the parking lot because of uh Amy and her friend staying in the funhouse. But yeah, that's a cool shot. And yeah, the cinematography's generally pretty good in this, and the camera keeps moving. It moves you through the fun house while they're going through it and you see it for the first time. It moves you through the fun house when they're trying to escape out of it. And then it gives you a sort of bird's eye view of everything that's going on.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

I mean, it's a cool idea for a movie, like the plot. It is, yeah. It's creative.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

Yeah, I'm surpr I'm sort of surprised they haven't remade this, but it deserves a remake. Well, maybe we'll get to that on our wrap-up show. Maybe that'll be our nomination for uh most deserving of a remake.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

Uh Dibbs. I'm calling Dibbs now.

SPEAKER_04 23:02

And then there was that scene that you really like towards the end.

SPEAKER_00 23:05

Yeah, when um Amy's parents come to the carnival to pick up Joey and she can see them because she's like in this kind of like air vent.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

Like I'm not really sure.

SPEAKER_04 23:15

There's like a grate that she's looking through and she's trying to scream to them. She's trying to call for help.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

But um there's like this loud cooling fan right next to her that's drowning out her cries to help, and it's so It's literally sucking up her screams so that they can't get to anyone.

SPEAKER_04 23:32

You really feel that moment. Oh, I also I like the end, the showdown with the monster in the uh guts of the fun house where he gets pulled into the the rigging and sort of snapped in two. That was kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

Alright, are you ready for my Sterling Spotlight?

SPEAKER_04 23:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Alright. So I did Kevin Conway.

SPEAKER_04 23:50

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

And he plays the Carnival Barker guy.

SPEAKER_04 23:53

Yeah. The Gunther Father guy. And not just one Carnival Barker.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Yeah, he plays all three of them.

SPEAKER_04 23:59

And that was kind of his when we in the documentary he was saying, that's really why I wanted to take this role at. You know, and it it can show I think he was interested for his range as an actor, but I think he also wanted to maybe suggest that there's a lot of inbreeding with the carnival people, and uh so you get these different people who work there who kind of look similar, but they have different kind of personalities and different kind of magnetisms.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Yeah, but he was in uh The Slaughterhouse Five.

SPEAKER_04 24:27

Slaughterhouse Five, which sounds like a horror movie, but it isn't. It's uh based on a book by the great Kurt Vonnegut. Um I think that was his first movie.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

He made a guest appearance on Star Trek, The Next Generation.

SPEAKER_04 24:40

Oh you go Aunt Blythe.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

He was in the Northern Exposure as like a Northern Exposure's TV show Blind Piano Tuner.

SPEAKER_04 24:48

Oh. I never watched that show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

He starred on the Good Wife.

SPEAKER_04 24:53

Another TV show.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

So he did a lot of TV, it sounds like yeah, and he was on Broadway. Oh, really? Yeah, he was um Moon Children.

SPEAKER_04 25:02

That's the name of the play?

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Yep. Um The Plough and the Stars.

SPEAKER_04 25:07

I've heard of that.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

Of Mice and Men.

SPEAKER_04 25:09

Yeah, he was in Of Mice and Men. He plays George. And who plays Lenny? Someone famous played Lenny in that version.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

James Earl Jones.

SPEAKER_04 25:19

Did James Earl Jones play Lenny?

SPEAKER_00 25:21

That's what it says. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:22

That's the voice of Darth Vader.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:25

You've never seen Of Mice and Men. We should see that.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

And he was also on Lon Cheney Jr.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

plays Lenny in Of Mice and Men.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

He is also on Dinner at Eight.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

Dinner at Eight, okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

And his off-Broadway credits include One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Ooh.

SPEAKER_04 25:41

I wonder who he played.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

One for the Road.

SPEAKER_04 25:43

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

The Elephant Man.

SPEAKER_04 25:45

Yes, he plays Treves, you know, the evil Carnival Barber guy. He likes playing Carnival, folks.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Uh Other People's Money. When You Come In Back and Red Rider, which he received.

SPEAKER_04 25:58

Did he get a Tony?

SPEAKER_00 25:59

1974 Drama Desk Award. Oh, good for him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:03

He was also in a show, a prison show called Oz, that I remember watching a couple episodes off. Recognized his face. Cool.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

And he was in Kevin Conway. He was also in the Funny Farm.

SPEAKER_04 26:14

Funny Farm, the Chevy Chase movie?

SPEAKER_00 26:17

I'm not I'll have to check that, but he was an actor in a film director. And he was a film director. And my favorite part of my strolling spotlight, he died February 5th, 2020. New York City, New York.

SPEAKER_04 26:32

Oh, he's 77. How did he die?

SPEAKER_00 26:35

See. A heart attack.

SPEAKER_04 26:37

Was he in a fun house?

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 26:39

That would be ironic. Alright, cool. Kevin Conway. Nice job.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Alright, minuses.

SPEAKER_04 26:46

What have you got?

SPEAKER_00 26:47

I mean, I didn't like the um the mask.

SPEAKER_04 26:51

Yeah, that's the biggest one for me. Not the Frankenstein mask. The mask the guy was wearing underneath. Do you know anything about it?

SPEAKER_00 26:59

I do not. Okay, so it was made information by legendary Rick Baker.

SPEAKER_04 27:05

No. Yeah, and this is the same year that he was going to win the first Academy Award for Best Makeup Effects for It was for American Werewolf in London. They created the category to award Rick Baker, and the the and the same year he makes this mask. Anyway, not Mr. Baker's best work. And probably the main drawback of the entire movie for me. Because otherwise I like this movie a lot. I think it all the elements click into place. But that first reveal And they show a lot of it.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Yeah, and it violates my main problem with horror movies when you see too much of a monster too soon.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

They don't reveal him too soon because he's in the Frankenstein mask, which I liked. But once he takes the mask off, the camera really focuses on it.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

Like Yeah, it's too much. It lingers.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

After the first reveal, they do a better job of keeping it sort of hidden in the shadows, but by the point you've already seen too much of it and it doesn't look good. Like you said, very fake looking, and I feel like once you see a really fake looking thing and they show it too much.

SPEAKER_04 28:09

It really takes you out.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 28:10

Yeah, if makeup effects and monster artists would have just spent maybe another I don't know, like a thousand dollars, like they could have put electric eyelids on these bad masks. Like seeing something that looks so fake, at least blink, would help.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 28:26

And just that a little invention like that could have saved a couple of otherwise decent movies from this era. Even American Werewolf in London, like the werewolf, when it looks fake, it would look better if it uh occasionally would blink its eyes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

All right, hmm.

SPEAKER_04 28:43

That's really the only downside of this movie for me, other than I don't love the beginning, but I think we'll talk about that.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

Yeah, so is that like a hmm the opening?

SPEAKER_04 28:51

I think the opening is a hmm for me.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Because it's such an obvious ripoff of both Halloween and psycho, except not scary.

SPEAKER_04 28:58

Yeah, uh it's it's an homage and it's playing with your expectations in a way that I think is kind of clever, but I agree, it's never making you feel like this is anything but a trick. And it's a pretty long intro, too. Like it's the first like six, seven minutes of this movie just to establish that the little brother is um kinda awful.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:19

Right? You don't really care about him much throughout the movie. And um that's another hmm.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Yeah, yeah. I mean you want to care about the characters.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

Yeah, and I I didn't mind the main four, and even Gunther, you feel there's a little bit of sympathy that you have for him. And yeah, but the kid he doesn't have much to do, and when he does stuff, kind of puts you off to him. Are we ready for Coolest Kill?

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:44

Alright. Three, two, two, one, one, the guy the clown thingy. What what?

SPEAKER_00 29:49

The guy that falls on the He comes out.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

You don't even know his name.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

I don't. I think it might be Buzz.

SPEAKER_04 29:55

Yeah, the macho guy. The Amy's date. So tell us about so what happens?

SPEAKER_00 30:00

So he like after he dies.

SPEAKER_04 30:02

No, no, tell us about the kill.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Uh I don't remember.

SPEAKER_04 30:05

So do you like the kill or the aftermath of his kill?

SPEAKER_00 30:07

The aftermath of his kill? How did he die? He got like the axe or something?

SPEAKER_04 30:11

He fights the dad the carnival barker guy, Kevin Conway. Oh. And then stabs him against the statue in the funhouse holding that sword, and then the dad like comes to life and brings him towards the sword, right? Yeah, but he doesn't get stabbed by the sword. I thought he did initially.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

I thought he did.

SPEAKER_04 30:28

But then it's Gunther who just like drops from the rafters, sees his dead dad, and then attacks Buzz. You don't really see what happens. You don't see a lot of the actual kills in this. They sort of happen off camera. But then you tell us about the aftermath of Buzz.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

Like like you said, we don't see Buzz's kill, but like we don't know is he dead, is he not, or was he just taken by the monster guy?

SPEAKER_04 30:50

Uh but then later that's gonna come into play with my kill too, which is different. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Okay, so Amy sort of like backs out of the room where the attack is happening. Right. But then there's like this clown guy that pops out of the shadows.

SPEAKER_04 31:02

Again, it's one of these like fun house attraction things.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

And he's carrying Buzz's dead body, and you're like, whoa. I thought that was just cool. I think I thought that it was a cool setup, cool aftermath. I like that.

SPEAKER_04 31:14

I was always thinking that Gunther was gonna be hiding behind that clown. Yeah, yeah. That was gonna be like another jump scare right in front of Amy. That would have been cool. Um so mine is Liz. So after her boyfriend Richie is killed, she's running away. And like I said, they're smart for a while in this movie, so they know enough to stick together, but she falls through a trapdoor, which makes sense because they're trapped in a fun house, after all. And but she falls down into the ventilation system, and for a while you don't know whether she's dead or alive, but then it cuts back to her a couple minutes later, and she's pretty banged up from the fall, but she can't go very far because there's this big exhaust fan cutting her off, and then you see Gunther's like strobe-lit shadow creeping around the corner.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

And she tries to fool him by pretending to like flirt with him and saying, like, I like I love you, let me hug you. But then she tries to stab him by the floor.

SPEAKER_04 32:08

Yeah, she grabs like a knife that's falling.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

Then Gunther doesn't like it, so he beats her up.

SPEAKER_04 32:12

And then she's But we I we don't see it happen, but then we see her torn-up body like a little later. So I go with that one for the suspense and for the kind of multiple stages of it. There's a little bit of mystery built into it that I like. But let's talk SGS moments. So Where did Serling get scared? Where did where do where were you feeling some suspense? Where did you get squeamish or sickened in the tummy-tum? Where did you get um given to soliloquy?

SPEAKER_00 32:41

Sadness.

SPEAKER_04 32:42

Sadness. Were there any um Sterling Unfortunate favorite characters? Characters that you really liked? Liz.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

I liked Liz.

SPEAKER_04 32:49

You liked Liz, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

Um I did have a couple for the magician.

SPEAKER_04 32:52

Oh, for your scary parts? So what yeah, what happens there?

SPEAKER_00 32:56

So there's like this cool magician guy.

SPEAKER_04 32:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

He might have been my favorite character. I loved him. Really? Yeah. Uh so he's dressed up as Dracula, he's got like a little whiskey bottle, and he's like, Yeah, he's got a little flask that he's taking hits from.

SPEAKER_04 33:08

You can tell he hates the audience too. Like he's probably done this a thousand times in a thousand towns.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

But he was a good actor.

SPEAKER_04 33:15

He is a good actor.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

And so he's like, and I have someone from the audience come up and he brings up this girl.

SPEAKER_04 33:21

It's a plant. So it's someone who works with him who's in the audience.

SPEAKER_00 33:24

And he puts her into this coffin and he brings in like this little wooden stake and he stabs it into her, and there's like blood gushing from her mouth, and she's screaming. And then he like smiles at the audience and goes, lovely hand from my lovely assistant.

SPEAKER_04 33:39

It's his daughter, right? Yeah. So that was a little shocking.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

And then the first real kill, Richie, right after the. Yeah, and the fun one they're hiding in the fun house. Yeah, like a noose comes around his neck and yanks him up and hangs him.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

He's pulled just out of reach of the others, so they can't help him at all.

SPEAKER_04 34:01

So they're like trying to get him and he's going further and further up, and they're like scraping at the bottom of his shoes, trying to trying to help him and trying to support him. Yeah, that's not bad. And then the carnival barker sends him out to them in one of the cars, so he's become just another part of the fun house, kinda like Buzz does when he gets killed.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

He's like one of the attractions now. I think my third one might have been when Gunther drops down from the rafters and attacks Buzz.

SPEAKER_04 34:26

Oh, for the Buzzkill, yeah. Yeah. I also like Buzzkill. Yeah. Okay. That's kind of funny though. You ready for Guess the Tomato? Yeah. Alright, so what do you think this got on round tomatoes?

SPEAKER_00 34:39

I'm gonna say 72, 62.

SPEAKER_04 34:43

Somewhere between those two.

SPEAKER_00 34:45

65.

SPEAKER_04 34:45

68.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:47

Not bad. So this is uh a cat's eye, which is another Stephen King kind of anthology compilation horror movie. Cliffhanger with uh Rocky.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

Force 10 from Navarone, which I I've never seen. We should watch that. It's got Quint and Han Solo and Chubbs slash Apollo. Creed. Yeah, we should watch that. It's a war movie, though. You're not that into war movies.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

What? Uh oh, I thought you said a horror movie, and I was like, Dad. What do you think this podcast is?

SPEAKER_04 35:16

Oh, should we do a separate podcast about war movies? No, I don't even like them that much. Uh all right. Tell the folks out there certainly how we play against the tomatoes. Some people, this is their first time listening.

SPEAKER_00 35:29

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_04 35:30

Why do we have to do this every single time?

SPEAKER_00 35:32

I I don't know. I genuinely don't.

SPEAKER_04 35:34

I just had someone at work, they heard about the podcast, and then they were like, which where should I start? And it's like, just start with the most recent episode. But if they start with the most recent episode, they're not gonna know what gets the tomato is.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

I did not ask you that.

SPEAKER_04 35:45

They did?

SPEAKER_00 35:46

No, they didn't. Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_04 35:48

Alright, I'm lying, but they could.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

Yeah, exactly. I know. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 35:52

And when you're at camp this summer, like people are gonna ask you, and where are you gonna tell them to start? If you're gonna start listening to podcasts. No, please don't tell them to listen to the beginning. Our first couple episodes are terrible. You are not on point.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

Neither are you.

SPEAKER_04 36:05

What? No, I I'm okay. First couple of episodes. Everybody, if you haven't skipped our first couple of episodes, please skip our first couple of episodes. This may be the first time on a podcast that they're telling you not to listen to the podcast. But I would say pick up with Alligator, maybe. Start with alligator.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

We're getting so off track.

SPEAKER_04 36:25

Are you saying we've we're off the road? We're Beware the Moors?

SPEAKER_00 36:29

Beware the Moors, Dad.

SPEAKER_04 36:31

Beware the Roger Moors when you're watching James Bond movies. Unless you're watching Folks.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 36:36

That was gonna be our nah episode, our uh not really our movie.

SPEAKER_00 36:40

Another shower. Why?

SPEAKER_04 36:41

Does this podcast make you feel that icky that you have to shower afterwards?

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Yes, yes, it does.

SPEAKER_04 36:46

All right, guess the tomato. Tell everybody how do we play Guess the Tomatoes?

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Okay, so you give me hints about a movie. Um hard hints at first.

SPEAKER_04 36:55

I couldn't really find another movie that had the exact uh 68% rating. So you haven't seen this movie, but I'm gonna describe a movie and then what's gonna happen. I'm gonna give you hints.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

And the more hints I need, the more of the I get.

SPEAKER_04 37:10

Right. So, seeing as we did a movie called The Fun House, I thought what better carnival food that was readily available at the supermarket for me today. You're lucky I didn't come home with more circus penis for you to compete against. But this is caramel corn.

SPEAKER_00 37:27

Ew.

SPEAKER_04 37:28

Yeah. And I just opened it, so it's nice and fresh. So you have to have a piece of caramel corn for every clue you miss. So if you can get this movie with this clue, you have zero pieces of caramel to eat, and then one for every clue you need until you get this 68% movie that I'm gonna describe to you, okay?

SPEAKER_00 37:46

See, I know you're gonna give me like a super duper hard hint just because you want to get away.

SPEAKER_04 37:49

Well, that's the way you have to make it fun for the audience and me and Ray.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

Ray doesn't care, she's asleep.

SPEAKER_04 37:54

Oh, she just wants you to drop caramel corn on the floor. That's why she's here. All right, this is for zero bites. This is to avoid caramel corn. This movie, okay. There's a musical about the main character in this 68% movie. Okay, it's not if you somehow get it from that clue, you don't have to eat any caramel corn. Do you say caramel or caramel?

SPEAKER_00 38:15

Caramel.

SPEAKER_04 38:16

I go back and forth.

SPEAKER_00 38:17

Okay, so there's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, but those are tech Okay, tell me this. Are those technically two people? Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

No, it's the same guy.

SPEAKER_00 38:26

Okay, um, but then there's also Carrie.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

It's not necessarily a harm character that I'm talking about here. In fact, it's not. Here you go.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

No, uh-uh.

SPEAKER_04 38:34

There's one piece for you.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

Ew, it's sticky.

SPEAKER_04 38:38

And describe it for us. Other than sticky. First of all, it's popcorn, which you don't really love, but it's caramel, which you do. So this might this should be a wash for you.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

It's stale. I mean, I just opened it.

SPEAKER_04 38:54

Do you like it or not?

SPEAKER_00 38:55

No.

SPEAKER_04 38:56

Good. Here's your next clue. What? It's a kid's musical, what I'm talking about. So no adults were going to this musical. Maybe not even if their kid is in it. But the musical features the character from this 68% kids movie.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

Is it like the No, stop it. Put one back. Um oh what's that? Like five little rascals or whatever?

SPEAKER_04 39:19

Nope. Here you go. Take another little piece from there. Okay. Is it any better on the second bite? No. Is it worse? Yes. Okay. Uh this movie is animated, and it has the voice of the great Clancy Brown in it. Who's one of your favorites? Do you know who Clancy Brown is? He played the Kurgan in Highlander.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

Wait, I think I might know this.

SPEAKER_04 39:43

He's the voice of Mr. Krabs.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

Oh, SpongeBob.

SPEAKER_04 39:46

Yeah. Yep. It's the SpongeBob SquarePants movie. It was 68%. How do you know about Mr. Krabs? So you've seen some SpongeBob, it sounds like.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

No, I just know who Mr. Krabs is.

SPEAKER_04 39:56

I shouldn't have said the character's name. No. Pretend I didn't say that. No, okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:00

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 40:03

Oh, man. David Hasselhoff plays himself in this movie.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Wait, so he plays um himself. The Squidward Gary?

SPEAKER_04 40:12

Oh, he plays himself. He plays David Hasselhoff.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

What?

SPEAKER_04 40:15

Yeah, I don't know. We might have to watch this movie if Clancy Brown's in it.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

No, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

Can I try a piece of this just to see? I don't know why I'm asking you why I bought it.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

You don't really taste the caramel, or at least for me.

SPEAKER_04 40:26

Jake, here's what I would say. If we went to a carnival, this would be like warm. Did you think it would be better warm?

SPEAKER_00 40:32

No.

SPEAKER_04 40:33

You think it'd be worse?

SPEAKER_02 40:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:35

I think it'd be worse warm. Alright. You want to go one higher or one lower than 68%? So one lower than The Funhouse is a movie called Victory. Starring Rocky, Ming, and uh Michael Kane. It's actually good. It's about soccer. And with the World Cup nonsense going on in Philadelphia right now. Maybe we'll watch that outdoors on our screen. I've been thinking of some other stuff to watch on our outdoor projection system this summer. We'll definitely be doing some movies for my next season. We're starting with Meatballs, we've got to do that. One higher than this movie, Dumb and Dumber, which you've seen. And Shutter Island, which is with Leonardo DiCaprio. Uh directed by Martin Scorsese. Not my favorite. And Christine. Killer Car, Stevie King.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

And you we just decided what book are you going to read this summer?

SPEAKER_00 41:23

Uh Pet Cemetery.

SPEAKER_04 41:24

And why you want to read Pet Cemetery?

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Because you said that it's scary.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

It's the scariest book, yeah. And you've read it The Stand. You're gonna find Pet Cemetery um disappointingly short compared to those tomes. Uh it's not an epic, but I remember it being Is it less than a thousand pages? Yes. You can read it twice.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

Uh what do you give this on the Ferometer? I gave it a two.

SPEAKER_04 41:49

You can't. You had three SGS.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

And I give it a three.

SPEAKER_04 41:52

You don't even give extra points for like the atmosphere of everything.

SPEAKER_00 41:55

3.1.

SPEAKER_04 41:56

You can't go point one. You're going three point five?

SPEAKER_00 42:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:02

I was chilled by this when I was eleven, and I still found this movie to pack a decent scare wallop, so I'm going 5.5.

SPEAKER_00 42:11

Weirdo.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

Uh phonometer.

SPEAKER_00 42:14

Um I gave it a five.

unknown 42:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 42:17

Why five?

SPEAKER_00 42:18

Uh because I thought that there were some parts where it was funny.

SPEAKER_04 42:23

Almost zero parts where it was funny.

SPEAKER_00 42:25

I just thought it was energetic and it was just like it got you interested a lot in involved in the plot.

SPEAKER_04 42:32

Yeah. I gave it a four. It's scarier than it is fun for me, but a lot of Toby Hooper can probably be summed up like that. Maybe Texas Chainsaw 2, the fun equals the fear, but that's an outlier for him. Impactometer.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Uh I mean this didn't really impact much besides going into the realm of the carnival movies.

SPEAKER_04 42:53

Yeah, and there are a couple of those. I I don't know people know about this movie, but uh may not have seen it. It wasn't a glossy fun slasher like 1981 was used to. So I think uh some people miss this one. That's too bad because I think it's effectively spooky. It's got a real cool lineage and people associated with it. Uh so I went for. Recommend or not recommend.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

I recommend. More people should see this. It's a fun movie.

SPEAKER_04 43:22

What would you give it uh on a grade level?

SPEAKER_00 43:26

Uh B. B B minus, probably.

SPEAKER_04 43:29

I go B B plus. I give this a medium high recommend. It's scary, it's atmospheric, it's got an interesting exploration of family imperfection dysfunction, to put it lightly. Which is a big Toby Hooper focus point in his movies. Yeah. Texas Chain Zone Massacre. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

Next time on DDSH, I got places to be. Okay. Yeah. Um Drumroll, please. Will we get to a naw episode? Uh not a hall. Or will we just jump right into our season six wrap-up show?

SPEAKER_04 44:04

Well, you know our naw for the Fs was going to be folks. Or are we going to just jump to our season wrap-up? It depends how quickly we want to get to the G's.

SPEAKER_00 44:14

Yeah. The suspense is absolutely maddening. I mean, can you believe that we've done six seasons of this?

SPEAKER_04 44:19

It's absolutely ridiculous.

unknown 44:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:21

All right. Well, yeah, we'll see you next time, hopefully, for we'll probably just jump to our wrap-up show.

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You know, we've really uh we've really crapped out a lot this time. Yeah. Because we were supposed to do a Christmas Carol episode, not uh uh let's talk Christmas Carols, folks. Uh, and we didn't. We teed it up on one of our episodes and then just kind of forgot about it. Yeah. I think we were having trouble even getting out two episodes a month at points this year. Still are. But it was a busy year. Yeah, yeah. But a good year. Yeah, we'll see you. All right, we will see you soon. And then, of course, back to the Jews.