Never Too Festive: Parenting with More Joy & Less Mom Guilt

32. Navigating Emotional Eating and Cultivating Self-Confidence with Melissa Rohlfs

• Elizabeth Hambleton

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Unpack the mysteries of healthy eating, emotional connections to food, and self-confidence in our latest episode of "Never Too Festive." I'm thrilled to have Melissa Rohlfs, a holistic health and life coach, share her journey from sugar-dependence to a balanced lifestyle. Together, we promise to guide you through the ever-evolving landscape of nutrition, making sense of past misconceptions like the infamous low-fat craze, and finding a path that suits your individual needs. By tuning in, you'll gather insights on how to enjoy holiday indulgences without the weight of guilt, all while setting a positive example for your little ones.

Explore the emotional landscape of our eating habits and its roots in childhood experiences and societal pressures. Recognize the red flags of emotional eating, whether it's hidden snacks or a child's meal avoidance, and discover how to address these behaviors with empathy and understanding. Melissa and I delve into the psychological impact of food allergies and the early feeding challenges that might shape a child's relationship with food. Join us as we unravel the complex emotions tied to our plates, offering practical advice for fostering healthier, guilt-free relationships with food.

Finally, let's reflect on how societal beauty standards influence our self-worth and body image, inspired by nostalgic tales from the Sweet Valley High series. We discuss the fine line between being physically fit and conforming to unrealistic ideals, especially for young women. With a focus on empowering moms, we highlight strategies for building self-confidence in teenagers and creating a nurturing space for open dialogue. Plus, we share mindful eating tips for the holiday season, ensuring you savor each moment with joy and balance. Get ready for an enlightening conversation that helps you and your family embrace a fabulous, nutritious lifestyle.

Connect with Melissa at her website here.

Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to another episode of Never Too Festive. I'm your host, elizabeth Hambleton. The holidays are upon us and, if you're like me, this is a time when you like to indulge a little bit, but you wanna do it in a balanced way and a way that doesn't make you feel guilty because is it really an indulgence if we feel guilty? And also you wanna model positive balance and body imagery for your family, especially if you have a daughter I know I do who is watching you and internalizing these choices. So we're going to dive into that topic today, and I couldn't be more excited to have a special guest, melissa Rolfs, here, who is a holistic health and life coach. Hey there, mama, and welcome to Never Too Festive, the podcast where we celebrate the extraordinary in everyday motherhood.

Speaker 1:

I'm Elizabeth Hambleton, your host and fellow mom, on a mission to help you rediscover your sparkle, redefine your style and reclaim your sense of self in the midst of motherhood mayhem. Do you ever feel like you've lost touch with the stylish, confident woman you used to be before kids? Are you tired of living in yoga pants and feeling like you've gone from thriving to just surviving? Well, mama, it's time to reclaim joy, creativity and style, while embracing the fabulous mom you were meant to be. So grab your iced coffee and join me as we embark on a stylish adventure together, because here, on Never Too Festive, there's no such thing as too much sparkle, too much flair or too much celebration. Get ready to shine bright and live your most fabulous, joyful life, because you deserve it.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm excited to be here today. Yes, I love this topic because the show is never too festive. So clearly I can get behind a little festive moment, and that might involve some sweets, some champagne, but you know, we definitely want to do it without guilt and with such a balanced, holistic, as you say in your title holistic outlook. I want to know a little bit about how you got into this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was never my journey. I was not this without like what I set out to do at all. It's basically through my own journey and my own struggles that I decided to go into this. So I think for me kind of the defining moment was after we had kids and I just was exhausted, I was frustrated. I was irritated. I didn't really like the mom that I was.

Speaker 2:

I had no idea that it could be related to diet and nutrition. I was very much a sugar junkie, lived off of carbs and Diet, dr Pepper and Oreos and was very much a stress eater and started meeting with a life coach and a new, overwhelmed mom and she actually was a therapist and diagnosed me with PTSD from childhood trauma. So through that met with a naturopath and she did lots of testing and learned that a lot of my vitamins and mineral levels were really low. I was very depleted and so we talked about supplementation and changed my diet and I started to have more energy. My brain fog was gone, I was happier, I was healthier and I think for me so much of my association with food Elizabeth began in childhood as like weight, like we eat to gain weight, we don't eat to lose weight, and so for me to learn that there was more to food than just weight was really eye-opening and I wanted to share it with other moms, so went to school, became a holistic health and life coach, and that's a very quick overview for you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that. I mean there's so much there that I can relate to. I grew up in the nineties and it was like the snack well generation which I think back. We're all horrified by right collectively. It was like so high carb, so high sugar, no protein, and then we probably wondered like why did? Why did we not like lose weight? I mean that turns out.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's funny because I was actually at the dentist a week ago and I had a hygienist who is probably in her early mid thirties, looks very fit, she says she works out and we were. She said she just recently got her blood work back and it was like slightly elevated for cholesterol and she and I were lamenting how difficult nutrition has gotten because she's a dentist and she was asking me like oh, do you drink water? And then she was saying no, even sparkling water we want people to get off of because it has like acid and for your teeth and whatever. And it's just. I was like seriously, even sparkling water is, like now, unhealthy and you know, just like. And it's funny because her cholesterol is a little high. So they told her to eat oatmeal and I was like didn't we all decide that oatmeal had too much sugar. What's happening? Oatmeal is supposed to be bad for you. It's so confusing to really figure out. Like what are we supposed to be eating?

Speaker 2:

It's super confusing and it's super overwhelming and it's always changing Because, like you, like Snackwell's a lesser chimp girl here. So we all have this mindset that fat is bad. But what they do when they took the fat of those products is they put sugar in. Well, sugar is really not good for us. We actually need fat.

Speaker 1:

So I don't think all kind of been I don't want to say brainwashed, but led astray really by like what is good and what is healthy and when do our bodies need one, even like she was saying she does a lot of eggs because, right, like I agree, like I think the newer it feels, like I'm not an expert, like the more modern idea is like higher protein, higher fat, less carbs, less sugar is kind of the trend overall, but then it's, your cholesterol gets high, they tell you to move it down and it's just like how do you manage? I guess, too, I would love to know how do you tell people to filter through what works for them versus like this sort of quote, unquote science. I'm not saying it's not science, but like all the studies or you kind of the trends, or you hear this, or one person's like says this, the other person says not, and it's like how do you know what?

Speaker 2:

works for you, and that's exactly what I do in my coaching is I help people identify what works for you, and that's exactly what I do in my coaching is I help people identify what works for their unique body type, how to listen to and honor their bodies, because we're all different and we live in this world of one size fits all. But it's not one size fits all and like there are some foods that are really marketed and promoted as very healthy, but if they don't work for you, they're not a healthy food for you.

Speaker 2:

So I think we need to learn to listen to our bodies and how to figure out which foods really energize us, make us feel amazing, and the foods that maybe don't make us feel great, and kind of figure what our bodies eat, because you're your own best health expert.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that and you know, kind of thinking about what works. I'd like to bring up the C word, which would be calories, and this may be weird, but I sort of shy away from telling my children like this is a high calorie food or like it has too many calories for you or something. I think that was much more common when I was growing up and I don't know that it was always. We'll call it helpful. I don't know that it was always helpful and you know it can cause a lot of like am I fat? Questions or whatever my children take after their father. He has a 29 waist, he's extremely thin. I was a size four when I got married to him and he was still thinner than me. So like they don't really have a sort of standard American weight loss type issue and so I don't talk a ton about calories and I try to about health, but then at the same level I'm like but these, this is information you need to be.

Speaker 1:

A fully functional human is to know what calories are and to know how to read them, and you know. So it's like where's the balance there? What do you tell moms about? How do we message that in a way that's helpful but still gives them the skills. Because it's kind of like money, right, you don't want to talk about it all the time and be like your Christmas gift is too expensive and like add guilt or shame, right. But then also it's like if we never talk about money, how do our kids know?

Speaker 2:

what it is or like how to use it in a healthy way. Absolutely, that's a great question. I use like calories just kind of piece of the whole picture, right, like we look at the calories. That's one way that we can kind of assess. But I think it's really important too to look at ingredients in what is actually filling in our bodies and how that makes us feel, and I think, too, the idea of balance is really helpful. So, for example, with our kids, we'll be like okay, so this is kind of what you've had, have you had any fruits, have you had any of the veggies? And not focusing on like what you've had too much of, but have you added this in? I think that's kind of helpful Cause, like you said, calories are helpful, they're a baseline, baseline but we don't want to focus only on well that's probably true for so many of us.

Speaker 1:

It's it's more about what we're missing, like have you had anything green this week? Right, like, because you know when you're busy, those fresher things that take a little more prep can often be what kind of falls, especially now. Like holidays, it's you know you just like get behind and you're not chopping your fresh. Holidays it's you know you just like get behind and you're not chopping your fresh vegetables. Or it's just easier to grab goldfish and run out the door.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's that's interesting. That's a good way to look at it, rather than the like too much, because that kind of brings us, I think, into the idea of holiday. Do you have, if you have clients that you're working with and they are feeling, maybe some feel probably things that were rooted in childhood and different? Or like comments that people have made, but like they're maybe wanting to indulge, but they're getting that kind of little jimmy cricket voice in their head of like you shouldn't be doing this. Or like they eat something at a holiday party but then feel guilty afterwards, like how do you talk to people about managing the like, the emotional side of eating?

Speaker 2:

yeah, because it is hugely emotional. Right, let's talk about that, we don't think about that, but there's so much emotion in food and food pictures are emotional, like a thanksgiving table with a grandma around it.

Speaker 1:

It's supposed to feel like love right, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

And then if we don't have those emotions or feelings, then we feel maybe guilt or shame, and then, if we're an emotional eater, we're eating because we feel guilty and shameful, like yeah, so it's a whole.

Speaker 2:

Thing oh I think part of it is like where does that voice come from? Like where I think the biggest thing is just pausing and getting curious and asking questions, instead of listening to that voice and letting it dictate. You maybe say where does that come from? Is that something that's serving me now, and if it's not, I need to let go of that, I need to put in a different voice. But I think you know kind of finding the root of where does that belief or thought or voice come from, and is that something that I want to continue to show up with now in my life, today. I think that's a really powerful starting point.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and sometimes I think it's so, or maybe this is just me, but for me it can feel vague. You kind of have that feeling associated with something. Maybe it's a little guilt or a little this, and I used to have it much more when I was younger. I think I have moved past it. So, you know, maybe looking at it more with time, you know people can start to kind of move past it, but sometimes it I think you have to sit with it for a minute because you don't always have the exact memory of the exact food with a person that just you know springs to mind.

Speaker 2:

um, sometimes it can be lots of little small things that have just built, or like even more fear too, like you just don't want to become something and get a reaction, or like you're worried about the reaction you might get, but you haven't even actually gotten it yet, which is even harder for food, cause it's like something we do all day, yeah, and we need it Right, like we can't just say, oh, I'm done eating, like it's a necessity, and so I think that's where, when we look at it in context of a relationship, it kind of changes things right, because it's like, oh okay, I have a relationship with food. What does that look like? Where does this come from? Is this what I want it to look like? And then you have the ability to change it, just like you do relationships in your life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'd be curious. So I think it's one thing to kind of know with thyself and sit with that because you just have more information. They seem to have like a you know baseline or relatively healthy connection to food or what are some maybe red flags that they're emotionally eating or there's something there that maybe we want to talk about or kind of intervene. Maybe is strong. But just you know, like to stay actively managing as the parent so it doesn't get too ingrained Like what should we be looking for or aware of?

Speaker 2:

I think, as far as red flags go, I always think that the binging and the overeating is easier because usually there's clues like there might be, you know, candy wrappers under the bed or in the backpack or um food hid in the room. And that's what I did. I was a food hider as a child, um, so I think you can kind of be aware of that. I think, too, like noticing, like you said, in social things how are they in the food? Are they avoiding it? Are they eating? You know, just like everything is normal, are they kind of shuffling food around on the plate, maybe not eating? Are they trying to look like they're eating?

Speaker 2:

I think that can be a red flag and I think too, you know just kind of observing them at meals. How are they with the food, are they? Is it you have a child where I have one of these and it's like I don't really like what you made, so I'm going to make something else and they're still eating. Or is it I don't like what you made, I'm not going to eat anything else? So I think, just being observant and curious behavior and look for those clues yeah, one.

Speaker 1:

It's funny. I have one who is just more of a natural eater, in that like just enjoys the process of eating more. And my other one had and in her defense terrible food allergies as a child, was in hospitalized feeding programs and terrible infant issues, like at one point they said your child won't survive till Christmas because and I was like I know I'm the one who took her in here and I I was have to I would force feed her with a syringe and then she would spit it back out on me. And I took her into the specialist and was like literally I'm force-feeding my child and it doesn't stay down. Therefore I have no other way as the parent of making sure that she survives, because I would have to pin her down with one arm and stick the syringe in her mouth and shoot it into the back of her throat and then she would sort of choke. But if I put it in her mouth she would spit it out and I kind of wonder how that has affected her psychology around eating today.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's been eight years but and I don't know that I regret force feeding her because I had to keep her alive, but I'm sure there's like some sort of and it's probably a lot of us have like these things that I don't like. She doesn't really, I don't know, like I don't know what the right word is. I don't know that she remembers it consciously, but it's got to be somewhere in her subconscious that eating is uncomfortable, which I know that's kind of an extreme example, but I'm sure we all have those things somewhere where you know, like even people's food aversions like my husband won't eat mayonnaise, cause one time he got super sick on a stomach bug from, like you know, mayonnaise on a sandwich and he's like it just makes me nauseous Like those are all sort of like a hundred percent logical Cause I can eat mayonnaise and not vomit, right. So I don't know.

Speaker 2:

It's interesting Like how do you, how does someone like even uncover some of that stuff? I think we get curious and we peel away the layers and that's a lot of question, asking a lot of like helping people look at and evaluate their relationship with food because, like you said, we all have those things. Maybe we grew up in homes where we had to clean our plates at mealtime and so now we always clean our plate because we don't want to get in trouble and we want to be the good girl, or whatever the case may be Feel wasteful.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yes, yes. So we all have those things. You know, for me I had food in my room as a little girl because it made me feel safe. So we all have those things with food and they just need to be addressed and kind of peeled away and something we're willing to work on, and no diet or quick fix is ever going to do that for you.

Speaker 1:

Right, and I'd be curious with, or like across maybe, the people that you've worked with.

Speaker 1:

Food definitely affects body image, but it's not as correlation or like it's not as correlated, I think, as some people think.

Speaker 1:

Think because there are people who are quite slender, which I would just say is the Americanized ideal. I'm not saying we all have to be skinny. I would say like, culturally, that's the you know people would be like that's what we're all going for, right, but they still have terrible body image issues, because I worked in personal styling for a long time, so I would see it and you know there's people that are maybe less where you would look at and say this is the American Hollywood type ideal, but they do have a better self-image and confidence and just more kind of self-possession. I'd be curious to know how have you seen food and body image interact and how do we? Because, like, I think food is maybe the first piece of the puzzle, but then also body image is a bigger concept. I mean it encompasses more than just that, because if you're a four, you're not magically confident necessarily. So I just would love to hear what you think about that kind of how those interact.

Speaker 2:

But I think we've all been taught to believe that, like that four or six or whatever the case may be like because they are that size, they are confident and that once we get to that size, we'll be happy. Yeah, exactly Like I was thinking about this the other day. I read the Sweet Valley High books growing up. Did you ever read those?

Speaker 1:

I don't know who I that doesn't ring a bell, but I don't know who was the author. Do you remember? Or what was it about I?

Speaker 2:

don't remember, but it was two twins in Orange County, california, and they were blonde and they played tennis and their mom was like a size six and she was also blonde. And so I remember reading those books and little girl thinking I'm only going to be like happy and like have a full life if I'm blonde and I'm a size six, because that's what this book is is making it out to be, like it's the perfect life. So I think, even just like those little ways, we start to like believe, oh, I need to have this, to be this. And that's not always the case. Like to your point, there are people who are the size that we're taught is perfect and ideal and healthy and acceptable, but those people are miserable and I think really the key comes from being confident in who you are and who you're made to be, and how your body is and knowing yourself. I think that's where the confidence comes from and then I think from that that affects how you eat and how you show up in your relationship with food.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I totally agree with that and I think it's interesting too that obviously, how we present whether that's our weight, whether that's our sort of fitness level because I mean, that's a different idea too, that you're maybe like whatever size you are, you could be, just say like you're 150 pounds and you could be really toned and fit and like you I don't know look like you work out, and then you could be the same weight and maybe not be as just healthy looking. It's fit, um, and then how we you know dress it all kind of it does affect I think we can just agree for good or bad. It affects how people process us and I think it's actually a whole nother interesting topic of like looking at how we interact with other people and do we do it with grace and dignity and compassion, sort of like, regardless of where people are on the spectrum.

Speaker 1:

I know that in my 20s I actually went on this crazy fitness binge because I had a lot of time, free time. I was single. My friend was getting married and she was like, please work out with me and she really wanted to like get very serious for her wedding. Ironically, I didn't do any of this for my own wedding. But I was like sure, why not? I have nothing else to do in the evenings because I would get off at five and just be like, oh my gosh. I was like so much free time. I didn't own a TV so I had to do something. So I would meet her at the gym, like every day of the week, and we would work out.

Speaker 1:

And she was going to look amazing for her wedding and just by default, I was going to look amazing for her wedding, because I was there all the time, the most I'd ever worked out in my whole life, and it's funny because I did see I probably ended up. I lost a little bit of weight, I was down to a four. I worked out all the time and I can see that like the world did interact with me differently, especially men, and I don't even know if that's positive or negative, but you get a lot more attention and it's interesting too, like the psychology of that, both for yourself and like how do you manage that for your daughters? There's a lot there to unpack, really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there, absolutely is, and I do think that some women, subconsciously they don't want to lose weight because they don't want that attention, they don't want that Understand that, yes, yes, and they might not be aware of it, but subconsciously it is there.

Speaker 1:

I also think there's a weird thing about being quote, unquote, pretty and then professional and some lots you almost are taken less seriously if you're like we're just gonna use air quotes for everyone who can't see me like hot in air quotes or like you know, pretty, look, there's so many connotations that come with that, especially when you're younger and trying to be established in a more professional context, that it's almost feels like people are just judging you right out of the book.

Speaker 1:

Oh, she's pretty, she's clearly not going to be serious or giving you attention that you don't want. And that's the whole Me Too thing as well, which I think is again challenging to navigate a child through and I think just encouraging them to be true to themselves but I guess that's true like why the inner confidence is more important than even sort of what. Like what you eat is obviously a portion of it. But like what would you have any tips on? Like how would people sort of coach a teen or like even tween geez, daughter through some of those like kind of coming into your sexuality not in a inappropriate way, but just in like how do you have a good, healthy self-image around like people are going to start noticing at some point?

Speaker 2:

I think it's just being a safe place for them to come to with questions, and not judging and not criticizing, but just being safe and compassionate and opening. And I think curiosity always goes a long way because you can kind of understand their background instead of just like spewing or what you want them to hear, like you need to get on their map, so to speak, so you know where they're at and you can kind of go according to that. I think that's helpful. But I think just you know, having the conversations and as you grow and change, this is going to happen in your body and this may happen as a result with society, and it doesn't have anything to do with you. It's more about the person that's putting that on you or saying that to you or responding that way and just reminding them of who they are and keeping that like in a silo.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I love that. I think that's true that it does. So much of this. So much of this whole food discussion is about what other people have told you, or their own baggage, that they've brought their own fears that they projected of, like they worried about being called bad or they were worried about, or they were bullied or rejected or whatever it was, and like how that kind of gets pushed on, which is, I'm sure, why we, as the moms it's so valuable to do that inner work so we don't perpetuate cycles of whatever it was that happened to us, that happened to us. So, just to leave people with like a really practical tip, as we're kind of winding down, if you were at a holiday party this season and you're kind of looking at a buffet or kind of a spread, how do we make just like a slightly more nutritious or health focused choice when we're looking at food or like, is there anything that you would kind of say, yeah, gravitate towards this, but maybe do less of something else? Just like a little kind of guideline.

Speaker 2:

Yeah I say don't show up hungry. I mean, like when we're hungry, everything looks amazing and we're going to grab it all. So I think you know, have a little something before you go so that you're hungry and you're not starving when you get there. I think that'll make a big difference. I think to maybe have in mind like, oh, tonight I want to have you know this amount of things, or I'm kind of craving this and trying to go with that and just give yourself permission going in. Like you know, I'm not starving, I'm going to eat this because it's the holidays, I'm going to enjoy it and I'm going to go from there and see where I'm at. But don't judge and criticize and show up starving, because that doesn't serve anybody. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I love that Hungry is my kryptonite I know this is true about myself is I'll make good choices all day until like four and then I'll get like too hungry and I'll just eat whatever's convenient. So I hear that even not for the holidays, for you know the middle of June, Dress your shopping.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, also, not for the holidays, for you know the middle of grocery shopping, yeah, also, right, I know it's hard, because then then you are just so much more like I'll just take whatever I can get or what's fast and it's not always like the healthier option which is probably it when you're done yeah, no, and it's a testament to having healthier snacks too that are prepped, because I think a lot of times too and I don't know if this is anyone else like, I'm mentally willing to make a better choice if it were there and it was convenient and I had it, and you know it wasn't. I know food's gotten really expensive Sometimes. Those healthier things you're like, oh yeah, like salmon every day would be millions of dollars. But you know, so like, if it was all available and there and was prepped, I would make a better choice. But then I sort of slide back to like what is actually there, which is, you know, often more carb based. So I think you're right, like preparation is really the key to a lot of this.

Speaker 1:

Um, I love that plan going in. Yeah, right, which is a form of preparation? Yeah for sure. Yeah, mental preparation, yes, true, like the tangible of the food, but also kind of thinking through how you want to do. And I think that applies to alcohol too.

Speaker 1:

We didn't really touch on alcohol, but you know a lot of people do have a little bit more in the holidays, I would say, than, like you know, across the month of December.

Speaker 1:

A lot of people probably consume more than like across the month of, I would say than, like, you know, across the month of December.

Speaker 1:

A lot of people probably consume more than like across the month of, I don't know, whatever April or something, but kind of having a plan of maybe this is how many I'm going to have or this is when I'm going to have it, or having it after food can all help you feel better when you have that little treat. What and speaking of treats treats, that actually takes us into our question that we ask every guest, and that is for a petite plaisir that they are currently enjoying and if anyone is new to listening, a petite plaisir is a small luxury, um in french and it's just like a little thing that you are enjoying. That's bringing you just like a little conscious moment of happiness, because we really believe at Never Too Festive that you don't have to wait for the magical day when you have time and money for self-care and bandwidth, right like you can make those little moments to refuel, even in the busyness of the holidays, and we love to take inspiration from our guests who are doing that. So what is something that you've been enjoying recently?

Speaker 2:

my cup of coffee. With quiet time in the morning, it is like my mommy, like amazing time, like it's quiet, it's peaceful. Now that it's getting like more fall and wintery, I'll light a candle, I'll drink coffee.

Speaker 1:

It's glorious yes, I am here for that. I also do that. I do. Unless it's an emergency. I try not to book calls or meetings on the first hour of my day so that I can have my coffee start a little bit slower. I feel like when I start the day frantic, it just the whole day is frantic. But if I can start with that moment of grounding because I am not the person who's going to wake up at five and do it before my kids are awake, let's just be honest Maybe some year, but 2024 was not that year.

Speaker 2:

There. I wasn't there either, but now that they're older, I don't know what is going on, so your day may be coming.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there you go. Well, and now we get up a lot earlier than we used to to bus, to schools, and so, like I can't even imagine getting up even earlier, but, um, I have my cup of coffee in quiet time after they are both at school and the house will fight again for a minute and like center before I jump into work.

Speaker 1:

And I also agree when it's cozy and warm or like the coffee's warm and it's cold outside, it's good and just. You know. I encourage everyone, regardless of where you are this holiday, and maybe the morning is not your time, maybe you're rushing to the office but just find some little pockets. Maybe it's your lunch break or your family doesn't know what you're doing, maybe it's right before bed. Just find that little moment for yourself to stay grounded and like that grounding kind of flows into all of what we talked about, like it helps you make better food choices, it helps you feel more confident, helps you show up in a different way than when we're all like when we're behind and frantic any of us, there's no plan the choices can get way crazier.

Speaker 2:

For sure.

Speaker 1:

And for anyone who was looking for a little more support in their dietary journey and nutrition, whether through the holidays or, you know, already planning ahead, thinking about the new year, maybe wanting to make some better choices. I know 2025 is the year I turned 40, and I have been like I got to really get my nutrition big step. So if anyone is in that same boat, already looking ahead to like what are their goals, how can someone connect with you to learn more?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my website is free. The number two, the letter B coachingcom. So free to be coachingcom. There's resources, freebies and all my social channels are there, so one-stop shop.

Speaker 1:

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