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BONUS EPISODE: Love Island USA Season 7 First Week Impressions and Recap
Hi Feelers β in this week's bonus episode we welcome you to Empaths React! This is where we will be recapping all our pop culture obsessions with you. This will be the first of many and we are planning on recapping Love Island all summer! We're giving you a little tease this week, but head over to our YouTube and subscribe for more content like this.
This week we dive into the FIRST WEEK of Love Island USA season 7. We go over all the cast mates with our first impressions, astrology, and some hot takes for some of the juicy drama that went down in the first four episodes of the season. Grab a snack and have a chat with us! πΏποΈ
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00:00 Welcome to Empaths React and What's In Your Cup!?
01:14 Chelley
03:04 Olandria
04:39 Huda
10:06 Bell-A (or Belledasha as the internet has so lovingly named her)
16:46 Cierra
20:00 Ace
21:40 Jeremiah
26:44 Nic
29:35 Taylor
33:41 Austin
36:31 Charlie
38:37 Are Jeremiah and Huda endgame!?
39:36 Unpacking the kissing challenge
40:35 Is Ace plotting to get between Huda and Jeremiah?
44:55 Should Chelley and Cierra get together?
45:59 Debriefing the State Your Case game and double standards
53:13 Huda GET YOUR LIFE, the mom convo, and Jeremiah's reaction
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01:05:09 Wrapping up and stay tuned for more Empaths React!
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Hello and welcome to Empaths React. This week we are reacting to Love Island, season seven. We're gonna be reacting to and recapping. Mm-hmm. All of the first week of Love Island. Yes, ma'am. If you don't know what Empaths React is, it's'cause it's brand new surprise. And so surprise, surprise, another surprise. And, we decided that we wanted to do more fun stuff surrounding pop culture. Kind of bring it back to the roots of what Empath Anonymous really started as, which is just two besties sitting on the couch talking about the things that are interesting to them and always bringing it back to the mental health of it all. Yes. But yeah, it's been a really interesting week. But before we get into it, what's in your cup, sister? In my cup, I have a cut water espresso martini with some almond milk that I frothed and cinnamon. Cheers. Cheers. We have a list of things that we wanna dive into with you guys. Mm-hmm. So let's get into it. Yeah. So first of all, we're just gonna give our first impressions on the cast so we can kind of go down the list here. Sure. According to who was introduced to us in that order.'cause that's how I took the notes. Yeah. So let's start off with my girl Chelley. I mean is this, I know we can never really compare, but she's just feeling like People's Princess 2.0. Yeah. Just feel like such an easy fan favorite. Yeah. And I feel like she adds a, like a calmness to the villa and like kind of this rock solid, I don't know, independence, but also like very empathetic and understands her girlies and is like, just gives me ride or die. Mm-hmm. She really does. I like her a lot. Chelley's top of my list for sure. Yeah. She's also a Virgo. She does, she does really give me like. I don't wanna compare. Mm-hmm. But she does kind of give me like Serena vibes. Mm. Yeah. She is a Virgo sun. Gemini Moon. Libra Venus, which we love that. And we're gonna get into the Zodiacs Yeah. Later. But the earth is earthing this season. Yeah. My first impression of Chelley is that she's just an absolute doll. Like she's probably one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen in my life. Truly. Yeah. Gorgeous. But if you look her up on TikTok, she's like totally an E-girl. Really like the dramatic makeup and like, oh yeah, like the leather and like love that. The studs and everything. It's, yeah, she's really cute. Oh my gosh. I feel like the rest of the villa would be really surprised to have that information and I love that. Yes, really love that. Since speaking of surprises, it sounds like Chelley is bisexual. Oh my God. Yeah. Happy pride. I, we didn't find that out together. We did watch episode three separate and that's pretty much when she started to just say, oh yeah, I've been with that woman and I've been with that woman. Yeah. And I was just like, oh, okay. Are you like literally just telling all of America that like you're lowkey bisexual during Pride month. And I love that so much without even using words, which, yes, I do have that as a point of something I wanna talk about later on. Okay. We'll get back to that. We'll get it. We'll get into it. Next is Olandria. Olandria just gives me, I know allegedly people are calling Huda and Jeremiah mom and dad. I don't really get that. I think Olandria really gives me. Mama. Like if anyone is really giving me like elder vibes. It is her and Taylor. Because I, I don't know, I maybe it's the traditional values, maybe it's just the south. Mm. But it just, they give grown. Yeah. I, I really like her a lot. I think she's hilarious. Yeah. I like that. She and Chelley are the two oldest ones in the house. Yes. The oldest, the Eldes, they're rounded out at 27 years old. Mm-hmm. She's from Alabama, but she moved to Houston. She's a Houston girlie, which I, I totally get that. And then her astrology is, she's a Gemini sun cancer or Leo Moon. They don't really know exactly. And an Aries or Taurus Venus, so I know there's a lot we don't really know yet. We don't know the. The certainties. Yes. And I feel like depending on who the cast members are, they don't always dive into the zodiacs right away. Mm. I think we just got really, really lucky last season for them to all say like, because they were all very into it. Yes. Yeah. It was literally in JaNa's like intro, I'm a Sagittarius. I was like, yeah, it was, yeah. Yeah. I forgot she did that. That was my girl. So yeah. Loving everything I'm seeing from Chelley. Mm-hmm. So far she's about her business and like she's like, do not fuck with me. Right. I can tell already. Mm. Don't try me. Yeah. I don't think it'll be a good idea at all. No. So Taylor, better watch out. Next up is Huda. Okay. And so for those of you who do already know who are watching along with us, we have the whole mama drama of the Huda situation. Right. And so in solidarity with my fellow mamas, I wore my mama sweatshirt period because I understand how difficult it is. To date as a single mother. So everyone on the internet having their own opinions outside of how they feel about how she is as a person, which we'll get into. I understand what it's like to share, to try to share your life with someone as you're dating and wanna protect something so sacred to you. And everyone has their own way of going about it. And so if she didn't want to share with the entire villa of strangers, mind you Yeah. That she had a daughter. Let her be. Yeah. Let her be And allow her to share that information when she feels comfortable. Yeah. I like her. I think she gives life of the party. We're gonna get into the right, the more nitty gritties, but so far I'm feeling okay about her. I was really, really liking her at first and then after the whole baseball challenge I'm kind of like, okay, well we need to like take a step back a little bit because I think she's getting a little too caught up in her insecurities. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But I still like her very much. Yeah. She was my JaNa. It also probably helps that like I kind of have a crush on her. True. She came on screen and Danie can vouch. I like, couldn't speak. I was like, of all, oh, this girl is gorgeous of, and we're talking about first impressions. That's exactly what happened. And we did go live on both Discord and TikTok, but it was such a tough night to do that because I feel like with the delay, it just really messed everything up. The delay. But she was, yeah, she was supposed to be, I was trying to man the TikTok live, she was supposed to be taking notes. Everybody was supposed to be watching the show at the same time. It was tough. It, it was too hard to do all of this. It was too much. It really was. But yeah, when she came on screen, she like stopped typing. I'm like, she's 24. She's 24. She's in North Carolina. She's a mom. And she was just like, this Uhhuh. Are you, did you make note? Did you make notes on it? No, she didn't make any notes. Taking notes. Streaming pride. She was like, she was like, no, I didn't write any of that down. I'm just going off of vibes. Right. Literally, if that tells you anything about Crystina's first impression of Huda, then yeah, that's basically what it was. Yeah, but she's kind of like my JaNa. I instantly was like, that's my bitch. And I usually, that happens every season. I usually pick somebody like within the first episodes. A few episodes right the first week and I like, kind of am ride or die for that person the whole time. And I agree. I think that there's some behavior that we saw in this most recent episode that I'm not such a fan of, but overall I do really like Huda. I, she seems to like have a really good heart. She's really sweet. Mm-hmm. Really nurturing and she's just a baddie. Yeah. I like her a lot. And like I said, I wore the sweatshirt because of her. And I think that we all need to give single moms, especially those who are under 25 with an almost 5-year-old. Keep that in mind. She had her super, super young. Yeah. And she's still figuring life out and doing a really good job. Like, I don't know that many single parents who are 24 that are out on their own, establish their own business. Right. And have a whole ass house for them, them and their child. Yeah. So that is very true. Overall love huda I will ride for Huda. there's a lot of I wouldn't say hate, but I think that people on the internet specifically, I'm a Reddit girl, I'm always after every episode going on Reddit and seeing people are saying people on Reddit are not a fan. Yeah. They're not a fan of her. Yeah. I'm like, that's really interesting. Mm-hmm. there's overall this theme of comparing season seven to season six, which I kind of get I do agree that I think that this producers tried to look for certain people to try and recreate the magic of last season. Mm-hmm. So people are kind of like already putting Olandria, Chelley, and Huda as like the new PPG Huda as the new Leah, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. And I Taylor's the new Kordell, you know what I mean? Like they're trying Yeah. And then get that, it's like, oh, they like, let's make sure that some of these people that we cast remind our audience of how good last season was. And maybe it'll be a distraction if this season isn't good. But I feel like that kind of Robs number one, us the audience of a whole new experience. Yeah. And the cast members also, right? They can have their own, everyone. They can't, can have their own season. Right. Let them shine on their own. Right. Exactly. Yeah. And if Season six is a standout, just let it be. It was a moment in time, moment In reality TV history, it happens in everything. Like the same thing with season five for Love Island uk. Right? It's forever cemented as one of the best seasons that ever happened. Let that, let it rock. You know what I mean? Let it be that. Let it be that. Just let it be that. And that's great. And then if we get a spinoff out of it, like this is the, it's gonna be the first spinoff in Love Island that they've ever had franchise history ever. Like that's gonna live over there. You know what I mean? Yeah. We're gonna get them later on. Yeah. So let these people be this new fresh cast. Yeah. I don't agree with like the whole like new PPG thing, right? You can only have one PPG. It was a whole inside joke between all of them. You can't have six Powerpuff girls. No, it doesn't work that way. No. But I do agree that it seems like the producers purposely did that a hundred percent. But I also don't wanna assign that on these people. And I think that the internet is agreeing, like let them all be the people that they're supposed to be. Correct. Yeah. Next is. Belledasha Belledasha if you don't get your ass. Literally, I didn't really have too much of a first impression of her. No. Quite literally in the first three episodes, she was just giving quiet church mouse, which I respect. If you're gonna be quiet, you're gonna kind of keep to yourself fine. But there's something about the way she's moving and like not understanding how Nic is moving, which we're gonna get into. Right. And I'm just not quite sure about her. I don't really know my first impression other than she's probably just one of my least favorites other than the bitch who got asked to leave immediately. Yeah. Which we don't even need to go over her honestly, in this, because what's the point now? Yeah. And this is one of those cases because there's been several cast members that have been kind of thrown, you know, under the bus because of their beliefs or because of, you know, certain things that they've said, which rightfully so. Depending on what the thing that got said was Yulissa got thrown off the show because she kept saying that N word, not a podcast. So deserved. Yes. But I kind of do agree, like I think that people are so quick to villainize people. Mm-hmm. And I think that we're just living in this time that everybody wants everyone to be politically correct. Mm-hmm. And so it kind of does ruin the magic, I guess I would say, of reality TV and like allowing you to get to know people organically. But at the same time, I'm also grateful that like, I know these things about people. Mm-hmm. So I'm not forming an attachment to somebody thinking that they're a good person and they're not correct. And I'm not saying that about Bella, but there, Bella did say that she is looking for a, like good Christian man with good morals, which like power to you. Like that's, there's nothing wrong with that. But one of her friends came forward on TikTok and said that basically the reason that Bella is going on the show is to spread Jesus's light. Which again, if that's what you wanna live for, that's fine. I just. This is not the show for that. It's not the show for that. It's just kind of giving like, I can save these people. Mm. It's, it's like a, it's like a savior movement, right? When you come on a show and say that like, I just wanna come on the show and just show people like, you can live a different lifestyle than this without actually asking those people if that's what they care to do. Right. And maybe she is just doing it completely for herself and it's not about anybody else. But from the moment she came on the show, I'm asking the question like, have you ever watched this show in your life? Or did you stop constantly to think about constantly? Is this show a place where I can still live out my values? Because I think because of that, she's had to hold herself back a lot. Yeah. And it's just, that's why I don't have a good read on her.'cause I just feel like there's a wall. Yeah. Between who Bella is and what she feels like she should portray to the world. Correct. It's a misalignment. Yes. I just don't really cheat. You're gonna wait till the very, like, you're gonna wait till the very last episode to decide to kiss people on like a show that's like literally the premises kissing everybody in the house. Right? It's a show to ruffle feathers. Yeah. The contestants are brought on there to ruffle feathers and I'm like, there has to be a reason why the producers brought on certain cast members this season who seem to just be a little bit more, conservative in the way that they live their life or their belief system. Which again, totally fine, but like Love Island has a predominantly liberal audience and following. Yes. So it's very interesting and I think maybe this might be the thing that Season seven has, you know, they did cast like a very interesting group of people that were not like quite the same. It's sparking a lot of conversation For sure. In a different way. Yeah. I think that last time we had a lot of mental health conversations. Mm-hmm. There was a lot of gaslighting going on. Oh yeah. There was a lot going on with Aaron and Kayla. There was a lot going on with Rob and Leah. There was a lot going on culturally, which I really love that I, I mean, we talked about it last season, about seeing black love portrayed in a positive way. Correct. That was the theme and friendship. Even through the struggle. Even through the struggle. Yeah. That and friendship were really the major themes of last season. This season I think is gonna have a different kind of theme. And that's okay. And I appreciate it, honestly. Right. Because all, they can't all be the same. Right. And all that stuff ties into Yeah. A, a, a bigger conversation surrounding what reality TV is kind of becoming. Yeah. Because it's not the same as it once was, you know? Right. In the OG KardBelledashan days, if you will. Right. Yeah. So I agree. I don't. I don't love Belledasha. I don't hate Belledasha. I just don't really have a lot of feelings on her. I'm very neutral on that though, other than this woman turns her personality on and off when she wants to and when she's around men, she speaks very differently than when she talks in the confessional and with the girls. And that drives me crazy. Like just talk normally. Yeah. Home. Run. Head outta the park. Outta the park. I'm like, girl, what are you saying? Like enunciate the way that you enunciated when you just told me how you felt. Right in the confessional room or when you're talking to Olandria about how he's like touching up on you and kissing up on you. Meanwhile, he's in the photo booth with Sierra, literally during that whole conversation. Right? I'm sorry, Bel. Asha. That man's a whore. He okay. We'll get to, we'll get to him. Yeah, we're gonna, that's my main thing is like you can tell that she has a level of I guess. Cognitive resonance, is that the right word? When you can like dissonance. Dissonance. Mm-hmm. When you can process your feelings. Like she was talking to Huda and she was speaking very clearly and that honestly was one of the moments where I liked her the most. Right. Because she was saying, this is how I feel and here's why. Mm-hmm. I'm like, okay, period. Lay it out. But whenever she's around Nic, she just acts a fool. And maybe that's just like the whole puppy love, like, oh, I like this guy. He makes me nervous. Mm-hmm. I don't know how to act. Right. She's very inexperienced, like the giddiness, the giddiness. So it's like I'll give her a pass. I just don't really have a lot of feelings on her. Yeah. With her, like you can be, you can be giddy without having to like change your demeanor. Like Huda's very giddy and she doesn't have to like Right. Change the way that she talks to Jeremiah versus when she's talking to her girls. Right. I mean, obviously it's not gonna be the same things that you're saying, but like, just the way that you change your tone of voice Yeah. Is interesting. Yeah. I'm still like neutral on her. I, again, same as you don't have very much of a, of a read on that, on that girl yet. Yeah. Which is fine. It's fine. We have plenty of time. It's fine. Uh, and then rounding out the girls is Sierra. Okay. I definitely appreciate Sierra as the first girl bombshell. Yes. I think it was a great choice. Yeah. She was gorgeous. Right? I think both her and Charlie were a great choice. Yeah. I think that they brought a lot of like spice. They brought Aary umph. Into it. And I think that they needed to be that bold. I think they needed to be as bold as they were. Yes. And I really thought it was an interesting thing that they're using the Hideaway in a different way this season. Mm-hmm. And I like, and I like that because it's like you can have the traditional things that people are familiar with and love about the show and use them in different ways. Yeah. And so I think throwing a bombshell couple with like an og, OG contestants mm-hmm. OG Islanders in the same space, which the Hideaway typically is not used for more than one couple. It's kind of bringing pieces of Casa Amore to the villa a little bit every day. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And every day it's kind that like little secrecy, like spicy moments. No one really knows what's going on in there. Right, right. Which I like it. I like her. She came with the confidence. Mm-hmm. That's the thing, what I like about her the most, she's very confident. Super. She's not pining, she's telling it how it is. She's telling Nic like. I'm totally open to you to like talking to Bella. I understand you had a connection before I got here. Mm-hmm. But like move respectful with it. Mm-hmm. And I just like that she's very like unapologetic, for lack of a better word. Yeah. Like in the, uh, briefcase game. She was like, yeah, I've slept with 18 people. So what it honestly Right. Pissed me off that she felt like she needed to explain herself. Yeah. I guess it was supposed to be part of the game. Right. But honestly, the boys, I don't like it. The boys didn't really. The boys didn't really play, honestly. No. I think all the girls were like vulnerable enough to share their true answers and I feel like a lot of the guys lied. Charlie being one of them. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I generally like Sierra, I wanna see a little bit more of her. Mm-hmm. She is a Libra son, Libra Moon. Yes. And that's kind of the vibe she gives. Very, just like dropped in gorgeous. Very fun and flirty. Yeah. Fun and flirty, but not arrogant. I don't get arrogance at all. Yeah. Yeah. And absolutely gorgeous. She started popping up on my TikTok, so I followed her and I really like what I'm seeing from her. Mm-hmm. I saw one, but again, I'm on that same wavelength where it's like, I'm not really trying to get to know their internet selves. Mm. Before I get like a few weeks into Yes. What we got going on, on the television. Yeah. But yeah, she literally had do my makeup with me in front of a freaking Egyptian pyramid. That's the one that showed up on mine. Yeah. And I was like, oh, I fuck with that bitch. Yeah. Like, that's so. And it was just like perfectly framed. And the thing I was like, I love her. Yeah. Yeah. She gives if I had to put one word to her, it's like regal. Yeah. Mm-hmm. She does. I like her a lot. I, I think that she deserves better than Nic personally. Nic deserves better than Nic's a, he's a mess. Let's get his boys. Nic deserves jail, first of all. Okay. Straight to jail. Do not go do hundred. Let's get, let's get into the boys. I'm gonna start with one. I'm literally getting hot because I just, I'm already hot. I'm in fleece. Yeah. I'm getting hot because I just have a visceral body negative reaction to this man, and it's ace. And you guys. I thought that I loved Leo, man. I think that I'm proving myself wrong. I don't know. First of all, the chart goes crazy. He has too much Leo, he has a, a lot of Leo, so he's not a very good balance. Yeah. In the chart. But on paper he sounded so great. Right? Teaching to dance, you know, he's 22 and then blah, blah, blah. Teach you how to dance. He has six siblings, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? Like he's very charismatic. So I get why he would be casted for a show like this. Correct. The charm is all the way on. A hundred thousand. A hundred thousand. And he is bringing the drama when like none of the other guys really are bringing any drama at all. No. I don't think he cares. That it's going to do anything to his reputation. I think he knows how to manipul, he knows how this works. I think he knows how to manipulate the situation. Yeah. To make it work for his benefit no matter what goes down. Yeah. Anyone who, like you said, someone on the internet said has a 350 point font name tattooed. I mean, his whole first name, circus name, circus font name, and circus font on his back is like, that's already enough for me to be like, no. Yeah, no. The tattoos this season really just, they're that when I first saw the promo they're, it was like, you know that like sound of like the record stop. Yes. Like, yeah. That's how I felt because all the guys, I'm just like, yeah, it was, it was like, oh yeah, give me nothing. And I'm not like making fun of anyone's looks. I don't really think that anyone on this season is ugly. I'm just saying like, the guys are not giving, and all of the girls are drop dead Gorgeous. Yeah. Besides our next one, Jeremiah. I don't really, he's the only one that like really gives me the fanny flutters. Let me be real. Yeah. Yeah. I mean if you think about last Season's OG cast though, like who really gave Fanny flutters. Well, and this is my thing, so let's get into the Jeremiahs of it all. So he is a Taurus, and if anybody listens to this podcast, knows I have a weakness for Earth Sign men. Mm-hmm. And this is the same thing that happened with me, with Rob. Mm-hmm. And I fall for these men'cause they're just like so charming. Like caper, you're so chill. I'm so dense. Or assign men just like have this effect. And especially Rob, like I call it just like the Elvis effect. It just is so mesmerizing. Mm-hmm. And you're like literally like, I will give you anything you want right now. And then they disappoint me and I'm like, oh, you're literally just like any other guy. Mm-hmm. But yeah, Jeremiah is like doing it for me and I'm very nervous because it just feels like I just am an apologist.'cause he's hot. Mm-hmm. Like hot doesn't even cover it. Like that man's fine. No, fine. I tried to show her a picture of Maxwell, the singer. I don't know who that man is. If you know you don't, or if you don't know Googles okay. That man looks like a very, very young Maxwell who, he's still fine now, but like in his heyday. Heyday, okay. Falling. I mean talking about like absolute like panty dropper dime piece and he was a Sanger. Yeah. Maxwell can sang, I'm a singer and I. I'm the same, you know, it's like I gotta keep my eyes peeled, I gotta keep my ears perked up. It's so easy to fall immediately. And I feel like that's where Huda is at. And with their earth matching, they feel like they're aligned. Yeah. And I get it. And we're gonna get into the mama drama later, but yeah. Yes. First impressions of Jeremiah. I love him. Literally, I, I love, actually let's, I'm gonna put it to you this way. I love how he looks. I actually don't know that I'm getting enough personality from him. Like Rob. Yeah. I don't even know if I love him. I stand there. Absolutely love to stare at him though. Stand there and look pretty. Yes, so we, our notes were, so he's 25. He's from Los Angeles, which honestly, that is in a 60 mile radius of me, so it's on a pop in. Then he popped up on our ads for the Jaxxon chains, which was crazy. Yeah. Immediately was in my TikTok or my Instagram algorithm. He says he's a self-proclaimed nerd and bookworm, which I'm immediately like, yes. I love nerds, I love hot nerds, specifically. I, I believe him. He loves sway video games. The moment that he said he's a cheater, we were like, oh, oh. You're like, well, like. When and like for how long he, he did, he did explain it in the game. But did you apologize? And like he did, he, that ugly man would not, I immediately, I immediately felt regret. Yeah. And I apologize right away. And I take full ownership, take ownership. I take full ownership of blah, blah, blah. I'm like, okay. Yeah. Like, not that I'm excusing it. I hate cheaters. Like that is my one. Like once, one always, if you cheat on me, I'm never speaking to you again. I don't care. That's one, always one. I don't care for the love of my life. If you cheat on me, I'm not ever taking you back. Yeah. And obviously that was the question in the state, your case challenge. Yeah. And he tried to state his case. I still didn't quite understand what he meant by the, oh, it was the one, it was one month in and blah, blah. I don't know what he meant by that. Like was it one month into the relationship? Into the relationship, I'm thinking And you cheated. That's honestly worse. It is worse. It's like you didn't need to get a fucking fighting chance, but whatever bro. It just means you didn't really like her that much. I, and then, then don't get together. And then to add to it, you've told multiple women that you were in love with them? 10. 10. Which, I mean, I guess that's not like at 25. Like, I don't know. I'm 33 and I don't think I've told that many people that I love them. I think I'm at one and a romantic relationship. Right, right, right. I think I'm at one. I've thought it, I've thought it, I haven't like told, you know? Right. But telling someone is different than thinking it. Yeah. Because you're telling that person like, oh, I have these deep, deep feelings for you. And you might be misleading if they're Yeah. Bitch. Oh my God, she's not wrong. Yeah, but I, sorry. Anyway, sorry to lighten the mood, but Yes, I get what you're saying. No, it's. I, we need a light. We need a light tinner. Anyway, enough about him next. You guys. I've had such bad allergies for the past two weeks. I'm over it. Okay, so next is our resident whore Nicholas. Nic. Without a K. Without K. And that's how you know, that's how you know when they do some dumb fucking shit with their name. Yeah. I'm like, you're a stupid bitch. I was like, I hate you. Is there an K? Oh wait, there's no K in Nic, period. And Nicholas, it's you short in Nicholas. You literally put a k. Nicholas Jonas is also spelled the same way. All Nicholas's are spelled Saint Nick Hello? Santa Claus. Hello. They're all the fucking same. Yeah. I just, I can't do it. Yeah. Anyway, as soon as we found out that he was a Pisces, we were like, okay, it's over. Whatever. It's over for him. I, he's 24. He's from Jacksonville, Florida, and he is a nurse. I'm like, oh, so you get puss? And he did. And he does. Yeah. Oh my God. See like, it's like, what do you do like on a daily basis? Like when you go to the hospital, like what's your like Job? Job? Yeah. Oh my God, you're in the nicu. Oh my God. Literally stop. I love babies. I love babies. I love babies. So you like, we like know like the stuff that you're like supposed to know. Is he in the nicu? No. So he said, oh, he is. I don't know. As soon as soon isn't it graced my screen? First of all, he reminds me of somebody and I can't figure out who it is. A little bit Harry Styles. Yes. But there's somebody else that I'm like, he reminds me of someone. I can't think of it. If you guys know who we're talking about or you guys have any resemblances, right. To Nic, let us know. That boy from across the universe. What's his name? Jim Sturgis. Ooh, that's a good one. It's two British people. Jim Sturgis. But he's not British. I'm thinking I'm Oh, I know who I'm thinking of. I know that's Jim Sturgis. Yeah. Not old. Not old Jim. Like when he was in Across the universe. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There's, I'm thinking of, there's this motherfucker from Skins. He was Effie's older brother. Who is the actor's name? Nicholas. They're both Nics. Nicholas Holt. Nicholas Holt. Nicholas Holt. Yeah. Yes. He's a good, he's a good combination. They're all British. They're all British. That's weird. He's not British. He's not. He's from Florida. He's gotta have some like America's armpit. Yeah. Probably obsessed. Probably. Yeah. I just don't like have much to say about Nic other, that he's like a dumb 24-year-old boy who's super horny. He's very annoying. Yeah. He just annoys me. But he is charming. There are moments I love. Oh, like, oh my gosh, you're 50. It's 50 50 bitch. It's literally been 50 50 since Sierra walked through that door and kissed you and asked each other the hideaway. You were been in two minds about these bitches for like, it's, and I mean, bitches in an way, it's, yeah, you are giving me zero. Yeah. Like I just, uh, I don't know. There are moments when he charms me a little bit and then he said something stupid and I'm like, no, no, it's just not worth it. Next next is Taylor. Okay. Here's the thing about it. Teyl also Gemini son, right? Uh, he is a Gemini son, Libra Moon, Aries Venus. That sounds like trouble and a half and he hasn't shown that to me yet. But I feel like when he does show up in that way, yeah, that's a scary ass chart. What's a Libra moon? I don't think I've ever met somebody with a Libra moon. I think I have. Really? Mm-hmm. And that is, says Libra moons. Libra moons are known for their desire for balance, harmony, and beauty. And they tend to prioritize relationships and, and social connections over anything else. The diplomatic and social, I mean, I am getting that from him for sure. Yeah. He is a little bit more in like the quiet side and I say that and like he's not, not that he's not outgoing, but I think he's choosing. To be reserved. Mm. And I think he's choosing to stay to himself or we just haven't had enough screen time of Taylor, so we haven't gotten to know the real him. That's the thing. I like him though so far. You said that I said I hated him at first. I don't remember why. First of all, his tattoos gave me a major, like I can't, it was that and then the fact that you like really have a hard time understanding him and the two tone outfits. Okay. Him, me not understanding him, it doesn't make me not like him. I just know that he has a very thick southern accent. Yeah. I feel like maybe he said something that just rubbed me the wrong way. I don't remember. But I have, he, I've turned around and I would say at this current moment, he is probably my favorite of all of the guys. I mean, yeah, he's taken the top spot because everyone else just keeps embarrassing themselves. Yeah. Honestly. Yeah. Yeah. I think that he can be cute and endearing. I really kind of wanna see him. I'm, this is my first hot take. I don't know if he and Olandria are a good match because I feel like Taylor needs somebody to bring up his goofy side. Mm-hmm. And I think Chelley is very like serious and about her business. Mm-hmm. Which is interesting'cause they're both Gemini but we don't know her other placements for sure. Yeah. So it's hard to say like why they don't necessarily do that for one another. Right. They could a lot of the time. It has like a lot to do with like how you were raised too. That's true. We need to figure out where there are places in their families. Yeah. Yeah. Like them gravitating toward each other because they share like same traditions and values and they understand what it's like to grow up in the same area, I think is very adorable. Yes. Yeah. But yeah, I don't think that either of them were putting all their eggs right in one basket. And I, yeah. And I did make the note that I was like, I didn't necessarily like love that she apologized for her behavior when he stood up for Sierra. She apologized for like overreacting in a way or quotes there. Yeah. I don't know that it deserved an apology. I think she was okay to explain herself, but I don't know that it really needed with Huda or with him. With him. I just think, first of all another person who probably has never watched the show before they went on it. And I think that he was confused. And then for him to come back and say, oh, well, like you kissed somebody in a challenge. Like that's not the same as saying that you're unhappy and you're a couple and you wanna couple with somebody else. Especially when we didn't really see y'all chat at all. At all. And Sierra didn't really seem to like give two about you. Yeah, that was the confusing part to me. Yeah. So yes. I think another thing that kind of turned me off in the beginning is he said his, one of his opening lines were when Olandria asked what he looks for in a woman. He said, I'm looking for good teeth, a big butt and good feet. And I'm like, okay, that's, yeah, that's literally it. All physical things. Yeah. But he's 24. He's in vet school. I don't know. He could be promising. Like I said, favorite of the moment for men. Favorite of the minute of the Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Next, next is, uh, and I don't even wanna give this man airtime because he is so fucking irritating, but next is Austin. No, next. My first impression is, no, and unfortunately, none of us, none of us love island and girlies, gays and theys could even get away from the, from what everyone found out before even the premiere. And this is like, what I'm saying is like, is it, it is righteous, but is it fair? You know what I mean? I mean, in their defense, I guess if it were for any other reason, then yeah, I guess it would be unfair. Yes. However, mm-hmm. Regardless of the information we found out y'all, that man is a fucking snooze fest. So bad for tv. Literally wrap me up in a blanket so bad. Kiss me on the forehead and tell me goodnight when he speaks. I can't stand the way he talks. I can't stand the way his face looks. I literally, every time he's on screen, tune him the fuck out. Every time he talks, I wanna scream because it's just, I can't do it any longer. And then, yeah, I don't know. I don't even wanna like talk about it more because like there's really nothing to say. My only notes are like where he's from and that he's a Trumpy. And that's really all I need to know to say that he's not for me's done, he's done. And it makes me sad because he's from the Midwest and whenever there's somebody on my screen who's from the Midwest, I try to root for them a little extra. And I just can't. I just can't. We can't do it. Ugh. Speaking of tattoos, his fucking tattoo of the girl drinking a fucking Frappucino, I'm like, why did you get that? And two, why did you get that there? It's like right here. So anytime someone, anytime someone sucks his dick, they have to look at his fucking horrible tattoo of a girl drinking a frappuccino. And that's who is that? And that's why the internet is saying he was lying about these huge numbers that he was putting up in the state. Your case game about the thousands of women that he sent nudes to or whatever it was. Yeah. Right. No, I just, I don't believe it. I don't buy it for a second.'cause I don't think that there's that many women who'd wanna jump into bed with him. Exactly. It's that or like it's giving a male escort. I don't think that he possibility somebody said, so. As I said, I'm a huge redditer and so I just said, I don't get the allure of Austen. And someone said, I think you are largely misunderstanding how much power and influence men who are above six foot have white men who are above six foot Mm. They can talk anybody into having sex with them because they're just six foot. And semi, I wouldn't even, he's not my type. No. I don't think he's ugly, but like I just, no. Okay. Don't have anything else to say because he really doesn't add any value to the show. No. Zero. He adds fucking annoyance. Yes. And then the last on the list is Charlie. Okay. There are rumors also that he's a Trumpy, and so I can't really get too much into the first impression because that is my first impression of him, if that's true, that says all I need to know about him. However, bringing it back full circle to the things we brought up already. Had I not known that I really like Charlie. Yeah. I like him. Yeah. I don't know if it's because his accent or it's because he's a Greek God and he's just fine. He's just fine and very attractive. I just wanna know how this was confirmed. I mean, it must be on his social media, I guess, or Charlie if somebody found it. Charlie. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not gonna give somebody who an excuse just because they're attractive and have an accent. But everything, uh, but even in the game, I wasn't really loving how he was moving, which I guess we'll get to that more later. Let's do your case. Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah. That's really it. I mean, I think that he's a good bombshell, but I feel like some of, like a lot of the girls just aren't really that interested, which is surprising to me. Right. I thought Bella should have taken that opportunity immediately. Yeah. Because, I don't know, I just feel like, I feel like that could have worked a little bit better than her chasing Nic. Yeah. We don't chase. She's chasing Nic. We don't chase. Yeah. I don't really have much to say about Charlie. He is one of those people. Back to my point is like, it takes the fun out of reality tv. Mm-hmm. Even though when you have negative opinions such as that Yes, you do. Mm-hmm. Deserve to have your shit aired out. It just takes the fun out of it as a viewer because then it's like, now all I can think about when he's on my screen is that he's a Trumpy, you're an asshole and a misogynist and racist probably. You know, so it's like it takes all the attraction away. Yeah. And then it's like, it's not really like love island anymore. Yeah. So I guess now that we've gone through first impressions, I guess let's just walk through. I mean, do you have any hot takes or do you wanna like, walk through what's happened so far? The internet is saying Huda and Jeremiah are end game, and I'm just not seeing it. I just don't think that it's it, oh, I'm not seeing that. I feel like the internet does not like Huda and Jeremiah because they're acting like mom and dad and they're already presenting this image and they're already locked in and people are thinking that it's very performative. Mm. I must be on a certain side of TikTok because I did also see an ad where someone put Austin on a t-shirt, so I don't know where I am. But they also said that a lot of people are, I don't, are you getting this, that people are shipping Ace and Chelley? Yeah. Hate, Hey Tay Tate. Double, double hate Low entirely. Yeah. There's no real like hot, hot take. She deserves more than him. Uh, a thousand percent. Yeah. A thousand percent. Yeah. I guess like, let's just walk through. I mean there, the problem is in the first week not a lot happens and like really just in the last two episodes we've gotten some things to talk about. Correct? Yeah. Yeah. So, we've gave our first impressions, I guess, with the kissing game. What were your thoughts on that? I, everybody kissing everybody. It was kissing everybody. I was actually surprised with who Olandria kissed. Mmm. Because I did not think that she was really into ace and then again chose him for the baseball challenge. Yeah. And a lot of people chose Ace for the baseball challenge, and I'm like, I guess, I mean, when, if you really think he's showing the most personality, I guess. Yeah. And if you think about it as a whole, it's Slim Pickens in there. So it's like, I suppose what other choice would I have as an islander who's a girl and like having to choose who I'm gonna kiss. That's true. You know, it's like I might, they're kind of, yeah. It's like I might as well choose someone who has good lips. They, yeah. They're kind of, limited in choices Yeah. At the moment. So I get it. Yeah. The other, other than that, like, I know that we talked a little bit about this, but that was kind of like the first thing that we've seen with Ace plotting and, and infiltration, if you will. Yes, yes. Into the, and that air quotes here. Yeah. Closed Offness of Jeremiah and Huda, which I don't really think is like real, that is my first hot take is that Jeremiah, so there's multiple women in the villa that have expressed a lot of interest in him, right? Yeah. I think that Jeremiah is one of those men who has to feel like everybody wants him. And Huda is the one person that, until this last episode, hasn't really expressed any interest. Like even now, she's not expressing interest. She just put'em at her third base. Mm-hmm. But he has made multiple digs and has always seems to bring them up. Like he won't ace. Right. Ace will not stop bringing up Jeremiah and Huda. And the thing that immediately turned me off to Ace is that after the game, he's trying to make Huda out to be a liar and trying to plant these seeds of doubt in Jeremiah's head. Mm-hmm. He also has kind of like. I wouldn't say come for Jeremiah, but has kind of like put him in the hot seat twice. Yeah. Yeah. Like what? Like what would you say, how would you feel if your girl told you that? How would you feel? And Jeremiah's like, well, they wouldn't because I know what I'm doing. He's like, well, really, like how would you feel? Yeah. How would you feel? Yeah. And it was just annoying. Yeah. And it made me feel like Ace doesn't know what he's doing. Oh, he doesn't? Because it's like Jeremiah's literally telling you like I would never be in that situation because of the experiences that I've had. He's 22 and has never had a girlfriend. Like, what are you, what are you talking about Ace? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just to stir the pot. Really? Yeah. He's really trying to like plant those seeds of doubt in Jeremiah's head. And there are some times where I feel like I might have a point because he did, he did kind of say something about Jeremiah telling so many girls that he likes him. What I have a problem with is that it's for an ulterior motive. Correct. He's not doing these things to be a good friend. No. He's doing these things because he wants Huda to like him. Mm-hmm. And he doesn't like that. Jeremiah and Huda have like found this connection so quickly. Right. And that he's the only one expressing issues with the fact that he feels like nobody can talk to Huda. Nobody can talk to Huda.'cause Huda doesn't wanna talk to anybody. Yeah. That's not a Jeremiah thing. Not because of Jeremiah. It's a Huda thing. She's like locked in on her man's. Yeah. If you had a man that fine, you're not leaving him for a five foot Nothing. He's the only hot one on the entire season. Like if I looked around, I was like, why would I fuck that up? Why would I, why would I let that man go? Why would I let him outta my sight? Yeah, for the time being, I mean we're talking about the first like four or five days. Y'all like it's, we're barely, we're barely here. Yeah. Yeah. But that's my first hot take is that Ace is bothered and he's jealous and he wants her to maybe he thinks that he was gonna be the Jeremiah. Really? No. I'm thinking to myself as a Leo man, you think you're hot shit. You have a following on social media. Okay. You're on your like influencer shit. You're young and naive and you think you got your shit together and oh, I'm gonna go on Love Island. I'm gonna be him. I'm gonna be the one that like locks somebody down immediately. He probably feels like even without it being intentional, Jeremiah stole his limelight. Yeah, I know. He's like around, I can see that. He's like trying to like. He's trying to knock him down a peg. Oh yeah. For sure. Not, I mean, not happening, but, but here's the thing. There have been multiple girls who have expressed interest in him if he wanted to be, that he could have, but he keeps fucking around. Yeah. He's wasting his time. He's wasting his time. Obviously, like Elissa expressed interest in instantly. So did Chelley Olandria kissed him? Like Yeah, he could. Besides Huda and probably Bella. I don't think Bella really like, enjoys him. No. I think that he could have his pick of any of the girls, but he just needs to like, make a fucking decision. So it's like, why are you worried about the one girl that don't want you? Mm-hmm. When you have three girls that do, he's a meddler, he's meddling, but that keeps Chelley in his back pocket. He gives me heartburn pocket. Like Chelley is always in the back pocket, you know, I don't like that. No. And like Chelley is just like trying to feel it out. But like he's very flirtatious and he's very charming. Yes. Like, I get it. Yes. I get it. I see what he's, I see what he's doing, but I see what he's doing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Another little sly little moment that I came across on Reddit is that people, I guess that I must have missed this in the episode. I must have tuned out or like been doing something on my phone. I guess that Chelley and Sierra shared a very heartwarming, cute moment and people are saying that they should get together and that they should rec couple together. I must have missed that too. Me too. But people are shipping Chelley in Sierra. Okay. Which honestly hell is wild. Yeah. Yeah. Listen that, I mean, we're talking about what season seven could be remembered for. Right. Hello, love, man. We're all thinking it. Yeah. I definitely wouldn't be mad at that. As it currently stands, Chelley is too good for any of the guys in there. By far. By far, yeah. And we already know that she's bisexual, which brings us back to Yes, the briefcase game. The briefcase game. I, I love these kinds of games, but I hate them because they always bring about the same misogynistic, toxic shit. And it's never talked about in a, in a light that like puts men in their place or is like an educational like, moment of reflection. It's always just like glossed over. Mm-hmm. So in the game they obviously are talking about you know, different things that you've done. Kind of like a never have I ever type of situation. Mm-hmm. And one of the questions is, if you've slept how many people you've slept with in a single day, right? And so a couple of the guys answer two, I don't really remember who, but I know that there's at least like three, two, or three. Yeah, I know somebody said four. Austin said four. Nic said two. Jeremiah said two. I think so. And then of the girls, Huda and Chelley are the only ones that say two. And the, the guys of course, are like shocked. Right? Oh. But then as soon as Chelley said that it was two girls. Yeah. Instead of two guys as well. They were like, oh, oh, I like that. I could roll with that. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Respect, disgusting respect. Yeah. Disgusting. Some of sexuality is not for you to fetishize. Right. I clocked that as well. I was like, oh, so before you knew it was two other women, it was an issue. Right? But now that it's two women, it's like, oh, that's hot. Oh yeah, it's hot. We're gonna celebrate that. That's okay. That's okay. But the, but yeah. Huda didn't get the same treatment. No. Even after she tried to explain and literally what the premise of the game is, state your case, get, I get it right. Like one guy didn't do it for me. I didn't finish, period. So I called up someone who I knew would help me finish, would help me finish, period. Queen and I would do it again. Guys would do the same thing. Oh my God. They do Kidding. They do. They absolutely do. Oh my God, fucking blue balls. Can you come over my, what are you doing? What are you doing? Right. Anyway. I agree. I think it was a disastrous response to that. Yeah. And then of course, they always bring up your body count, which is like, it can be empowering mm-hmm. If handled the correct way. Mm-hmm. But of course, men's egos can handle those kinds of things. Mm-hmm. And so it's never handled the right way. The same thing that we saw in last season with Coie Yeah. It's Chan honestly. Forgot about that man. Oh, for sure. For sure. I forgot about him so fast. He's so, he's so insignificant. Yeah. But, and there's this general ideal from men that women need to have low body counts, but their body counts can be skyrocketed as high as the heavens. And clearly we saw that regardless of a lie or not. Right. Putting it out there for the world to think that you've had that many sexual partners. Right. It's just like beyond. And I want to make it a point to say that like both of us are on agreeance, that your body count doesn't matter. I'm never gonna shame somebody for how many people they've had sex with. I literally don't care. It's, are you safe? It's, are you safe? Do you respect the opposite sex? Namely men? Like do you respect those women or are you literally just having sex with people to hire your body count? Right. It's a game. And to get your dick wet. Yeah. Is it a game? Is it just for you? Is it self-serving? Mm-hmm. How many of those women finished? Yeah. Let's, let's make that, let's, let's that a question. Let's add that question. Listen here. Love island producers. Love island producers. Let's change up the questions a little bit. These are getting tired. They're getting old. I'm like, I wanna know that. How many, many women have you might finish. So many of the questions were just like, didn't you just ask this? They were just a re It was just, it felt like a rephrase or like a reframing of the last question asked. Yeah. And I'm like, oh my God. How many times are they gonna ask about body count? How many times are they gonna ask about how many times have you done with this, with how many people? Right. Right, right, right. I'm like, keep digging. And that's how it felt. Yes. They're just trying to dig for some shit. I'm like, can we like, ask different questions? I get the sex questions and Yeah, throw a couple of those in there. But every single one, it's just like a lot. And it's just, there's so many other things we could ask, you know? Yeah. That are more interesting. And then the islanders can get to know each other in a different way. Yeah. And I get it. Sex sells, whatever. Right. There's so many other opportunities for that to be. Every other challenge is everyone making out with everyone. Yeah. So like those little state your case games, why don't we throw in a couple of fun little things, kind of like how toward the end after Casa Amore after everything, like toward the finale when it's the last couple of couples they do the movie night. Yeah. You know, gimme some, just, I want diversity. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I've, yeah. And I find it really interesting that on a show where you're all like making out with each other, sleeping in each other's beds, blah, blah, blah. And then you have a challenge like, the challenge on episode four where they're literally having to like rate their bases and then make out with somebody at the end of the challenge. Mm-hmm. It's like, okay, so you have a problem with when it's not you. Mm-hmm. But then yet you're celebrating these women for being sexy when it serves you. Mm-hmm. Like, only be sexy for me even though you don't belong to me. Or like, you're not in a relationship with me. Yeah. It's like women only serve a specific purpose. Yeah. It just, it really was disappointing to me, especially with like the whole body count, because I think Huda and Sierra had the highest, which honestly theirs were still under 20. Like that's really not right when you're in your twenties, I think, I don't know how old Sierra is. I think she's 26, I think so she's 26. She's had sex with 18 people. That's like less than two people a year from the time she was 18 to now. Right. And that's only assuming that she started at 18, which a lot of people start younger and they're, yeah. I just think it's silly. Yeah. Because, because no matter what it's always gonna look at, it's always going to be looked at as something that is. Different and is a double standard. Yeah. And so I think that the questions should just get, I'm sick of it, literally just trash it, burn this, burn this challenge. I'm so tired of seeing it. I'm so tired of getting upset by it. It's triggering. I don't like it. You're only highlighting what's wrong in dating culture and not the things that are positive about it, so, right. Stop it. Yeah. We can ask about dates. We can ask about like online dating. We can ask so many. I mean, the list goes on. Like, let's get creative, you know, creativity. These just feel like lackluster. They feel like, oh my gosh, what do we ask? Okay, well we can ask this. Have you spent, have you sent nudes to Bitch? I don't know. Yeah. If I, if I, I was putting myself in those shoes. I'm like, okay, I'm imagining if I'm an Islander Yes. And I'm going on the show and they're asking me all these pre-questions. Right. Yeah. I wouldn't know how to count that. Yeah. I don't sit here and keep track of the amount of people that I've sent nudes to. Yeah. The most educated guess I could possibly make. I'm like, girl, I don't know. Every single time I was fucking ovulating. Anyway. Yeah. I the state of your case was like, fine. It was whatever. It's like I'm a honestly so glad that just get it over with. Yeah. In the first week they do literally just get it out. They normally do. Just, just get it out of my life. Yeah. I don't even care about it anymore. Yeah. Get it over with. The baseball game was fun. I really liked that. It was like a little all American moment. It was cute. The only thing I'll say about that was that Huda really needed to get her life because she was, get your life. I mean, honestly, like it's one of the worst pity parties I think I've seen in a long time on the show. I know over a man you've known for four days ridiculous, ridiculous over a man who like may not even be okay with the fact that you have a child. Let's get into it. The reaction was just not it for me. It wasn't a bad reaction, but it wasn't a reassuring one either. Yes. And she needed reassurance in that moment. Yeah. She was literally on the verge of tears. And I don't even think that, obviously he saw it but didn't even really like pay any mind to it or, or, or throw attention to it. Like, Hey, I see you're getting emotional. Like, are you okay? Right. Nava, you didn't even ask if I was okay. Fuck your feelings, dude. Yeah. Okay. And here's the thing, because I am obviously single and I don't have any kids, so for the sake of this exercise and for the sake of empathy, I'm gonna put myself always in both people's shoes because there have been times where I have talked to somebody and I didn't know that they were ha that they had kids, and I felt very deceived. I'm somebody who likes to know that very upfront. Mm-hmm. But at the same time, you're on a dating reality show. Mm-hmm. You've known this person for three days. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you have to put timelines in perspective. Mm-hmm. Because what is three days in Love Island compared to the real world, right. The amount of time you spend with somebody in three days in the villa Right. Is like the equivalent of like going on dates with somebody for like a month. Because at the end of the day, like you're not seeing, telling the person every day, you're not falling asleep with them in bed every day. You're not seeing them for 24 hours every single day. we see it happen every single season. Yeah. It never fails. And so I do, I am in two minds. I get it. I've done both things. I've been, most of the time this is the case. I've been very upfront. This is what my situation is. This is who my child is, and that's who takes up most of my time. And I've tried it in a different way where it's like I've not been upfront about it. I've kept it close to my chest and I could tell that the other person didn't really appreciate it. And so I was like, okay, if I feel comfortable with sharing it upfront, since I have been in the past. And I just tried this as an experiment to see how it would make me feel experiencing the other person's reaction. And then I learned from that situation, I understand both takes. Right. I understand why she would keep it close to her chest until she really felt like she could share that with someone she trusted. And like I said, he didn't have a bad reaction, but I would've loved, they tried to make it seem like it was me really bad. Yeah. I would've loved like a little bit more like emotional intelligence and maturity. Mm-hmm. But also. Yeah, they're young. Like they're young. Damn. Damn. Like the concert, you're looking to the side kid. You got a kid in your 24. How many kids do you got? How many kids do you got? She's like one. Yeah. It was, that to me was like a lot. And the fact that she kept crying Yeah. After the, the interaction. Right. And he never, I mean that we know of because we know that the producers edit things to look a certain way. Right. Yeah. I do really feel in two minds, because I'm never going to try to take the side of a man, especially in this situation, because I understand that mothers want to be seen as a whole person and not just a mom. And if she would've come into the, into the Villa out the gate, first conversations, I'm a mom, would it have affected. Her chances of coupling up with the person she wanted to couple up with, with her experience and her experience. Right. It's like, would you give me a chance? Because all the guys would've been like, oh, oh, I'm not trying to stepdad. I'm not trying to be a stepdaddy. She's not asking you to do that, bro. Right. Yeah. It's the assumption that someone like Huda as a young single mom is going on this show for support for a cash grab because she has so much to support. I get it. You know what I mean? And it's also why she was very selective with like who she told in general. It wasn't just him. Yeah. It was the whole villa. And once she found like, okay, I'm feeling a connection with this person. I feel like this is gonna be like, there's some longevity here. She really did not wait that long. Yeah. Which I get. Also, the producers are known to separate people so that you can't tell people things when you wanna tell it. Yeah. The Islanders last season revealed that they were like, I wanted to talk to him for two days, and the producers wouldn't let me talk to him. That's a lot. There are times when they separate you and they don't let you. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I'm not saying that's happen here, but I do really see both sides because I think that that was a lot to take in also, I think because she was so nervous, the way that she approached the situation mm-hmm. Was kind of like a mess. Yeah.'cause she was leading up to it being something so like crazy dramatic. So dramatic. Yeah. And I think that it's fair that he was a little shocked by that information. Mm-hmm. But yeah, I don't really love his reaction. I don't love that there was no reassurance. So that's why I feel on that. I just, I did really like them at first. I know better from last season to like all of a sudden be like, end game, end game, blah, blah, blah. Because that's exactly what happened with Rob and Leah. And then literally within like three episodes we saw who Rob was made you crash out. I think that they're cute. I think that they're adorable. I just, I wanna see how things go for a little bit. And yeah, I think that I really commend Huda for being one of the first moms to ever go on the show. Right. It's brave. Mm-hmm. I just, it's not really a TV format that's, that's like set up for that. Like people are having conversations on Reddit, like she should have gone on Love Is Blind, or she should have gone on the Bachelorette or whatever. I don't necessarily agree'cause I feel like anybody has a right to, if she wanted to go on Love Island, she goes on Love Island. Yeah. That's it. That's at, at the end of the day. You're spending a lot of time away from your child. You choose what you wanna do with it. Yeah, for sure. Sorry. Yeah. So I understand both schools of thought I guess, but the Internet's eating her up. Yeah. And I just wanna just share very briefly, like I understand having an opinion on her as a person, separate from the whole, like, I'm gonna wait to tell someone I have a child situation, right? I understand where people are coming from as far as like, basically placing judgment on her as a person and try and collecting the little data that we have of her, and then forming an opinion. But if you're going to have an opinion about her keeping her information closer to her chest about her child, then you yourself, number one, have to be a parent also, probably a single one at that. Right for you to have like a actual like valid thing to say. Yeah.'cause it's very difficult to put yourself in a situation that you've never been in before. You could be in very close, close proximity. You could know 10 single parents and you still wouldn't know the ins and outs, the mental load. You know, you just wouldn't know it. Yeah. And no one is expecting you to but also like lay off then. Yeah, respectfully. Respectfully. Yeah. And I mean, I guess we can kind of end on this note'cause there really isn't much after that. That really has jumped out to me other than just like, we'll see, we're gonna see that the chips fall. Where they may. They may. And yeah, I don't know. I'm really not feeling that great about any of the couples currently. So we will see what the next week has and yeah, is there anybody that you are rooting for relationship wise and like, do you have a, forerunner as like, somebody you're rooting for individually? So like a couple and an individual? I don't know. I have a premonition that like, shit's gonna get really, really hairy and dicey with Hoda and Jeremiah. So it's like, at, at this point now, I'm just really, really hoping that Huda can like find her like redemption arc. I just feel like it's coming. If they are still a couple, by the time Casa Amore come around, girl, listen. It's just not gonna be good. And I know Jeremiah's gonna disappoint me. I know that he is. It could even be before Casa Amore if we're being frank. Yeah. He's just not gonna fold for anyone. He's not, he's only gonna fold for a bad No, it depends on who, it depends on who they throw in that bitch. Yeah. And the producers know exactly who to throw in there for him. They do. They do? Yeah, I guess as an individual it would be her. Would I really want anyone of the couples now to be successful in, in their couple and stay in it? Not really. For all the people that I like, I kind of want them all to find different people. I think that Taylor's better suited with someone else. Mm-hmm. I feel like Chelley deserves the world. Mm-hmm. She deserves a king or a queen, and I just don't think there's anyone in the villa right now that fulfills that. No. Someone on TikTok said Chelley's person isn't in the villa yet. Yeah, for sure. Someone said that for sure. Ria. I think that she deserves a man who carries himself a certain way. Yeah. So we'll see about that. And then of course, Huda and Jeremiah, my heart wants to say I want them to work out because they're just both two beautiful, gorgeous people. Mm-hmm. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah. It takes me back to the first, one of the first things that Olandria. Told Chelley when they met each other,'cause they were the first two, right? Is that she loves a man to build a house. And I know Taylor is like a southern man, he's a cowboy and all this stuff, and he can take care of his animals and things like that. Mm-hmm. But he's just not giving rugged. He's not, he's giving like boy a little bit. He's even like country boy. I think Andrea needs like an older, like, like rugged, you know? Yeah. Rough around the edges. Callouses on the hands type shit. Yeah. Respect. That's what I think Olandria needs. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I guess my top two,'cause I don't care about what the men get. My top two would be like Olandria and Huda I need to find theirs, you know? Yeah. And Chelley, of course. But like, I'm really rooting for those two girls. Yeah. And I need Herda to get her shit together if she, if she starts to act up crazy. She might be gone soon. Yeah, because you can't let that ugly jealousy stuff. No, I just don't like her and she's messy and blah, blah blah. I'm like, she's not messy. She's doing what the instructions were, which is to go and play the game. Yeah. And pick four people and pick your fourth base. I tell you what, right now, Huda, Jeremiah is everybody's fourth base baby. Listen sweetie, in that house with those options, he'd be my only base. Like, can I skip one, two, and three? Literally, can he just meet me at every single one? Yeah. So be like my first base, it's gonna be Jeremiah, wait for my second base, it's gonna be Jeremiah and my third base, me Jeremiah, and then my fourth, my fourth base. I thought about this like really hard. I really did. I like really was wondering like who's gonna be there? Like who would I love to see, like at the end when I'm like coming around like head out of the park, you know what I mean? I'm thinking of Jeremiah. I'm thinking that. Mm-hmm. Let me tell you right now, definitely not be Austin Secret. Secret, secret. Definitely would not be Nic. No, I would face the ugly tattoos and Kiss Taylor and Ace before I did that. Oh, for sure. They, they may have been on the wrong show. They both need to be on like a temptation island or like fucking too hot to handle or some shit, you know what I mean? Like they were, I, I don't know. Not me judging men for their, their numbers when I'm saying don't judge women for their, I don't know. I'm not judging them for their numbers. I just don't like their personalities. Any way that about wraps it up? It does. 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