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Inside Marcy's Mind
Candy Corn to Community: Inside Marcy's Mind on Small Joys and Widowed Support Groups
Ever wonder about the small joys that can make a week memorable? Join me as I share some delightful updates from my recent week, including the excitement of an upcoming trip to Denver to visit dear friends Alec and Sharon. Discover my quirky love for candy corn and my favorite coffee mug, along with a nifty tip on how to save money on Keurig cups by using reusable filters. Plus, get a glimpse into the relief and satisfaction of finally completing our move from California and settling into our new space.
This episode also features a heartfelt conversation with Jeannie Gormick, regional leader for Widowed Village, a community supported by Soaring Spirits International. Jeannie opens up about her personal journey of loss and the incredible support these groups offer to those who have lost a love partner, including LGBTQ members. Learn about the importance of social connections and shared experiences in finding new beginnings, all within a nonjudgmental and inclusive environment that prioritizes genuine support over dating.
Lastly, we dive into the logistics of organizing a support group for the widowed. Whether it's scheduling meetings or planning activities like dinners and fun outings, we highlight the role of the group leader as a facilitator who fosters community and understanding. To wrap things up, I share a bit about my family's astrological signs and express my gratitude to Jeannie for her insightful interview and to all of you for your ongoing support. Don't forget to check out insidemarcysmind.com for more resources and information.
Hello and welcome to Inside Marci's Mind. My name is Marci Backus and I am your host. Alrighty, what a week. It's good to be back on my podcast. I've had just a pretty average week. You know they can't all be spectacular, right. Sometimes they're just normal. And this one was pretty normal. Had a few little hiccups in it here and there, but normal as my life is. Now Getting excited, leaving tomorrow for Denver to see Alec and Sharon we're going to stay with them. They've got a great weekend planned for Craig and I, so we're very excited about that. I'll have that to report on next week.
Speaker 1:This week, in our episode, we do have a guest that I interviewed, jeannie Gormick, and she's going to talk to us about a group for widows. And before you think, oh, I'm not a widow, there might be someone in your life that this pertains to or at some point it may be for you, and remember, men are widows too, so there may be a man in your life, you may have an uncle, somebody that's lost, somebody that this group could be good for, and it's a great interview. So stick around for that. And right now we're going to just, uh, get ready to touch on my week. So grab a coffee, grab diet coke you know how I am iced tea. Get that, get settled, get ready and we're going to get started.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm drinking coffee out of my favorite candy corn mug. I'm one of those candy corn lovers. My mother loved candy corns and I love candy corns and I also like the look of them. So for my holiday, fall and Halloween decorations there's some candy corns happening around this house. But my favorite is my candy corn coffee mug. So I'm having a little coffee with a little cinnamon this morning. Cinnamon's good for anti-inflammatory properties and as you reach a certain age, anytime you can anti-inflame yourself. I think it's a good idea. So I love to put a little dash of cinnamon in my coffee.
Speaker 1:Oh, this you know long as we're talking about coffee, I, I, we have um and I think I've talked about this, but we have a Keurig coffee maker that is also a coffee pot maker. So Craig can make his pot of coffee, but I like Keurigs. But what I found was those Keurigs were getting so darn, cups were K-cups, were getting so expensive. So I bought the reusable ones and they're a hard plastic with the filter, just like a regular coffee filter, and you fill them with your own coffee and, to be honest, you can get all kinds of coffees, you can do what you want, but I simply love it. I have four of them so I can fill them up in the evening. They're ready to go.
Speaker 1:In the morning I don't drink more than usually two cups of coffee. If I get a phone call from my bestie and I've already had two I might have a third. But think about it, look into them. You can get them on Amazon. I think they're great, and then every um once a week I throw them in the dishwasher. So I empty them out, rinse them off, put in new coffee during the week, but then once a week I toss them in the dishwasher. I have one of those. Um, I have a new dishwasher, so if you have one, you probably have it too. Against the ceiling of the dishwasher there's a little drawer that you can pull out. That's where I put, put them. So, in case you're wondering, a little sip of my coffee there. Keep my voice going. This morning it's seven o'clock here on Wednesday morning in Chicago. It's beautiful. It rained like cats and dogs yesterday.
Speaker 1:Yesterday, craig and I finished our move from California. It's kind of I look at it when we moved from California we left the big house and we came to the condo. Obviously I got rid of most everything we own, but we have a lot of boxes of holiday decorations, memories. There's probably 70 boxes of Craig's paperwork and stuff for Craig. I know he thinks that I have most of the boxes but honestly he does, but we have stored them in Craig's mom's house. No one's been living in it the last couple years and it's time to get it.
Speaker 1:It was time to get it out, so I arranged for a mover to come. They were great, very quiet movers. They just did their job. It was sprinkling when we got everything into the truck thank goodness, because we didn't have cover. Obviously very few people have cover all the way to a giant truck, got everything in, we got over to the storage unit and the skies just let loose. I mean, that's the heaviest rain I think I've ever seen, except for when I've been down in florida. And, um, the good thing was the storage unit that we have has a beautiful drive-in bay so we were able to back the truck in. They unloaded it. Um, craig helped them. He kind of. We asked them to put the boxes in the same way that they took them out and they pretty much did that, which was great. So it's pretty much organized. It'll need a little bit of moving here and there. We also have a granite tabletop that weighs probably 500 pounds. It was still packed from the last move so they were able to handle that.
Speaker 1:It was good. It's done and I don't know about you if you've ever had something that just sits in nags on you like I need to get this done, it's. It's bothered me that we didn't have a storage unit and that it's been in the house and so on and so forth. So I arranged for the storage unit. You know Craig is always so helpful, not I kind of measured the bedroom. I went and got a storage unit, everything fit. We've got extra room. It's great, great, great great. I took out all the things that I had taken out of my closet a couple of weeks ago and we talked closet reset. So it just I'm feeling a lot lighter. Also my stewardship committee that I'm the lead on.
Speaker 1:We made our big decisions last night. Things are going to the printer, so that's good. Next week will be a little hectic with getting things ready to go mailings to go out for the church 350 mailingsings. But that feels good, that's under control. I wanted to make sure it was under control before I left for my holiday. I'll be back next Monday, but nonetheless, what else?
Speaker 1:Oh, I got the new iPhone 16. I had, I had gotten the iPhone 13 and I got it just a month before the iPhone 14 came out, which was really stupid. I know better than to do that, but I did it anyway and it was not behaving well. So it was time to get a new phone. So they started shipping them on Friday. I put in my order Thursday night and you know I had that sucker on Friday, pretty amazing. The other day I put in an order with Amazon that was from AT&T. I put an Amazon order before I left for the gym, actually, because, if you'll know that, the, the new phones have a USB-C plug, so none of your old stuff will work at all. And uh, so I needed a new external charger. I needed I like wired headphones when I'm not using my. I have giant silent headphones, but I don't like those little pod things in my ears, so I had to. So I ordered those before I went for the to the gym, probably early in the morning, around five or six in the morning. They were here when I got home from the gym. Sometimes that still amazes me. I don't know why, but I got those so I would have them for my trip.
Speaker 1:Let's see what else went on this week. I didn't have any weird encounters this week. This week was pretty normal, probably partly because I wasn't out walking around as much. I had a little biopsy taken off of my leg and my doctor wants me to stay out of the pool for the week, so I've gone over to the gym to ride the bike. But I've had other things to do this week. I've kind of pushed this week with other things to do so I haven't been out and about so I haven't had any weird encounters.
Speaker 1:The fall plantings are out here in Chicago and it's beautiful pumpkins everywhere, this, that and the other, and out. I love out in the suburbs because each suburb neighborhood decorates their front entrance with pumpkins and hay bales and scarecrows and it just looks so pretty. It really does. It's nice to have had such a hard rain. I call that the sidewalk wash here in Chicago. If we don't get a hard rain, those sidewalks get nasty. You know know as much as I love dogs and you all know I love dogs. It is the potty ground for all the dogs, so they just pee on the corner of a building and it runs on sidewalk. Nobody ever washes it off, unless you have like a condo complex like ours. If it happens in front of ours. We wash and clean our condo complex, so do all the others and the fancy hotels. But you know poop on the sidewalk. They pick it up. They never get it all right Like sorry, gross, but true. So yesterday was a good sidewalk clean.
Speaker 1:My friend Shane used to always call a rainy day a free car wash. I've talked to all my friends in California keep in touch with them making me think of Shane. He called me yesterday. I'm very proud of Shane. Shane's my really good friend and he got promoted at our. He worked with me at our work. If I was still there, shane would be my boss and my boss Diana got promoted and so and my boss Tracy got promoted. So like everybody's just moving on up and doing great. So that's always fun to hear.
Speaker 1:Uh, let's see. I think I've told you everything that's been going on this week. Oh, craig's back home this week. I think he'll be home another week and then he starts traveling down to Georgia all the time. He had a wonderful time. Georgia they did the groundbreaking for the len, which is the hotel residential complex that's getting built down in um, georgia. What else, oh you know, I, like I said, I'm going to Colorado. So in Colorado this week, alex said the aspens are at their height of fall color, so we're obviously going up to see the aspens.
Speaker 1:I am sad, though, for all my ladies that are my Gloria Day listeners. I will be missing the women's retreat and I am really sad. But when your son says this is the weekend, we're available, you go. And Alec gave me this weekend is one that he and Sharon both were available didn't have trips planned, because those two together are always traveling and separately, are always climbing. You know, sharon's a climber too, so she's off climbing with people, he's off climbing, they're climbing, they're always gone. Sharon travels for business. I think she's had a baby shower and a wedding shower for different people. Her sister is pregnant, so she's very excited about that, and so this was the weekend I was given. Of course it was the same weekend as the Gloria Day Women's Retreat.
Speaker 1:I know you ladies, either if you're listening to this after had a fabulous time, or if you're listening on your way down. I hope you have a wonderful time and I am sad to miss it. I will do my best to be there next year. I miss all you ladies. I I have my women friends here at the gym who are my, my tribe, and I love them to death. At church we do not have a women's group and I miss that. And so, uh, I miss all you ladies, and I know you'll have a great time.
Speaker 1:All right, well, let's get into it. Let's listen to what Jeannie has to tell us today and I'm going to come in. I'm going to swoop it in the end for a did you know? Fact? No fact. All right, well, welcome everyone. I'm excited to have a really interesting conversation today with Jeannie Gormick. She is the regional leader through Widowed Village I want to make sure I get that right Widowed Village, you did. She's going to share with us some things that are going on and what she can do to help people with with widowhood and we were just talking a little bit before we got started and that can mean several things. So, jeannie, why don't you give us kind of an idea about what that looks like, what that means, and what you have for our, our fans out there our fans out there, sure, and I want to make sure that the individuals watching this and anybody who picks it up later.
Speaker 2:Soaring Spirits International is the sponsor for Widowed Village and they between Widowed Village and Soaring Spirits. There is so much information out there. It's resource um resources that have been researched, and so this is a valid information for people who are widowed and, as I was explaining to you, uh, marcy, obviously spouses are married to each other and if one dies, then the person left is widowed. But the way Soaring Spirits approaches this is it's really any reason why you have lost your love partner. That might be a terminology, lost your love partner, that might be a terminology. So this could be an engaged couple and one dies, or it could be a very close dating relationship and someone dies, or living together. You know, everybody's got a different definition, but that's what it is and I'm just excited because I am now a regional leader with them and I am about to have my first event posted in South Orange County.
Speaker 1:California. Okay, so is that an in-person or is that a Zoom? Yes, yes, in-person.
Speaker 2:Yes, and just for clarification for anybody who is not necessarily going to be coming to my events, there are Zoom meetings through Widow Village all over, all across the country. So it is options of Zoom and in person just depends on what the leader is, what they've decided to do.
Speaker 1:Okay, and I'm assuming these are LGBTQ friendly events as well. So if your spouse is same sex spouse, it doesn't, or your partner, none of that is. That's not a problem, right?
Speaker 2:Right, it's nonjudgmental. I love that. I love that. So they're going to be in as much pain as somebody Absolutely.
Speaker 1:We're all, yeah, yeah, anybody Absolutely Is the fact, and that's why I wanted to just clarify that, because that's a very important part for me as well. Yeah, what is it? What would I be going through in my life? Ok, obviously, I'd be widowed in some way, shape or form. We know that.
Speaker 1:What, what would be something in my life that would be happening to me during that period that would make me seek out something like this what, what would I feel? Because a lot of times people don't know they need help, or what kind of help do I need? Do I need to go, you know, to the park and find people to talk to? Like, what is it that I'm happening in my life that I might need this?
Speaker 2:Yes, and this particular program that I'm involved in is is more like going to the park and talking to someone who is a fellow widowed person in the sense, as opposed to counseling.
Speaker 2:I know soaring spirits can guide people toward counseling if they're not involved in it when the initial death takes place, but I see this personally.
Speaker 2:It's been five and a half years since I lost my husband and, unfortunately with my situation, I started dating and then I lost to death a boyfriend. So I've kind of yeah, I know it, but I tell people not to worry about me, because God has given me such an opportunity to help these widowed people now and that is what brought me to Soaring Spirits and Widowed Village was I'm looking for new beginnings for people and and help them through that, and this is a way, because it is a social. They call it local social group. That's what each of these groups in all the cities and it is global there. It's in other countries as well, so I'm just excited to be part of it and to be able to help somebody who's newly widowed. Certainly, they've given me packets for that, but also for people who are trying to get on with their life and socially, it's difficult because you may have very close friends, but if they haven't lost even a parent, they don't have the concept of the loss of a partner.
Speaker 1:Right, I can see that it's interesting as you're talking and what came. So I've been sober for 36 years. My, my audience knows this and what I'm hearing from you is it's very much what the concept, the focus and the concept of AA was built on. It's one alcoholic talking to another. So this is one widow talking to another widow. This is a group of people right, talking together, getting together and have similar experience, similar feelings, maybe a total different avenue of what happened to them, because not everybody is it's all. The story is the same, but what the concept is is from one person talking to another is where healing and moving forward comes from. Yes, it sounds very much like it does have those, those facets to it where they can talk. Now it's not. Let's talk about what it's not. It's not a dating group, right?
Speaker 2:No, no, and that's one of the first things. It's usually all women, but men are permitted to come and I would like to let them come, all right, but but there is a vetting program. But there is a vetting program. In other words, they have to become a member of Widowed Village and in that process they have to answer certain questions. There's no charge for it and the regional leaders are not responsible for the vetting. We're certainly responsible for laying down some ground rules and things like that, but the people who are coming are genuinely widowed in some way. Okay, and so there's a vetting process.
Speaker 2:So, yes, on the dating thing, that is not the focus of this. But if you happen to be sitting next to somebody and you hit it off um the very first, I think it was the first group of um, the widowed village local group. I went to one also in orange county. It's in central Orange County and very small. That night there were just the leader and this couple and I didn't know they were a couple until halfway through. They were both widowed, they happened to have met through the local group and now they come as a married couple to support the others. But you're absolutely right, it is not a dating site Perfect.
Speaker 1:Good to know. So my next question would be when I come to this event, what do I expect? What you know, the hardest part about doing things in life are stepping out and doing it, yes, and, and obviously this is something that you're not getting a group of girlfriends together and going to do. So this is something. That's that hard part in life where I have to step out by myself and I have to trust. So give us kind of an idea of what I would expect. Walking in the door.
Speaker 2:Sure, hopefully, I am going to be very welcoming You're always very welcoming and compassionate.
Speaker 2:That is not a problem. Yeah, I should be posting it in the next couple of days, but I'm also indicating that this is an opportunity to tell me are Tuesday nights good for you, is this location good for you and kind of working that? So we'll have some management details. But, as I said before, they've given me packets for newly widowed people. If I happen to have somebody newly widowed who's reaching out for help, I'm I'm prepared for that, and from five and a half years ago I was where they. They are now, um, but they. The organization has also instructed me not to be disappointed, because I may have 10 RSVPs, but the night of the event there may only be half of them because all of a sudden they're having a bad day, a bad time and they're not up to coming to the meeting. So what I'm anticipating here is to get the people that show up to get to know each other. We're not we're not even allowed to have speakers, so they're not going to be inundated with a speaker on finances for the widow.
Speaker 1:Good to know that's something out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a social group and an opportunity to sit next to somebody, sit across from somebody and explain how you lost your person, talk about your person, give them the opportunity. So, and then I want to find out, as the leader, what are you expecting from this group? How can we help you the best way? And then, and the organization wants me to have two dinner meetings a month, or they actually they don't have to be dinner meetings. I'm choosing dinner, but two meetings a month in a restaurant where people can talk, and then what I'd like to bring is some kind of an activity, so a fun activity to do. And again, that's whatever the people are looking to do, but maybe it's a night of bowling, maybe it's a movie night, you know, just something to get people out. Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:So my next question then is and I think the answer is obvious, but so my, my audience ranges from age, you know, younger, to you know my, our age, and the younger well know my, our age. And, yeah, the younger is it? Well, always my best friend, who always listens, and she's been widow for 30 years. But, um, so that's my question so somebody like lynn who's been a widow for 30 years but maybe is looking for some type of social piece to it and has the wisdom of being a widow for 30 years, so you're sharing one-on-one?
Speaker 1:Because that, again, it just keeps taking me back to AA, and the reason is is because it's all about I'm 36 years, sober. I still go to meetings. Why? Because I have something that newcomers don't have Absolutely, and they remind me of why I don't want to drink, or you know. And so I think you, as, as as being someone who's maybe sober for a longer period I mean sober, excuse me, for a longer period of time you have that behind you, but you maybe have some learning and some wisdom that they've come across. It's a very mutual sharing thing, and so I am assuming it's good for people who have been widowed, no matter how long.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and and I'm the kind of leader I, my position, the way I see it, is I'm more of a facilitator to make sure that the group is is going well, and I'm not standing on a soapbox saying that I'm an expert at widowhood. If I did have your friend somebody widowed for 30 years, I would almost I wouldn't turn the meeting over to them, but I turn the focus over to them if they're comfortable.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're an introvert and they're just there, but but yeah, there's a lot of possibilities with this for sure, and that's what I want my audience to know, because if you're one of my younger listeners, whose parent is widowed, perhaps, and you're thinking, oh my gosh, this is perfect for my mom or this is perfect for my dad, you know I do have a lot of listeners in the orange County and that's orange County, California, just to not get confused with Orange County Florida. Exactly Because that happens all the time, I know when I lived in Orange County California, you'd put in things Orange County and it would come up Orange County Florida. So this is going to take place and before I ask to not let this go by, my website is Inside Marcy's Mind. Go by, my website is inside Marcy's mind and all the information and links that Jeannie has shared with me will be on my website when this episode is is out. Now, what date is your first meeting?
Speaker 2:Well, it's not posted yet, but I air this before. Yeah, it's, I'm planning to have it on Tuesday, october the 8th.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:At 6.30 pm. Okay, all right, and it will be actually in San Juan, capistrano, but they do need to go through Widowed Village, become a member there and then they can join and get information about the group.
Speaker 1:And the Widowed Village link will be on my website again, insidemarci'smindcom. That will be there so you can join that. Or, if it's a parent or a loved one, you can guide them to that and they can register. And then, when your event is up and registering, this will. We're recording this just so I there's no magic of television here, so I'm always open. I'm recording this on the 18th and I'm going to drop it. I drop my episodes on Wednesdays. It'll be dropped on Wednesday, the 25th, so plenty of time for somebody to go in and register. And again, this you know, I'm sure in my audience I know one, I know one widow in my audience, but it may not be for you, but there may be. I want you, my listeners, to think about somebody in your life that this may be perfect for. And again, as Jeannie says, this is San Juan Capistrano. If you're not in the Orange County, southern California area and you're in a different area, please go. Also go to the widow village and they will direct you to a group that's near you. This is something new that Jeannie's doing. She's very excited. You're going to be really good at it.
Speaker 1:It's, you know, after being, like I said, sober for 36 years there, and the whole premise of Alcoholics Anonymous was started by Dr Bob and BillW. Was that one alcoholic talking to another? And this is exactly what this is. This is one widow talking to another, because there is no one else in the world that understands you like that other person that's actually in your shoes. The shoes may be a different size, they may be a different color, they may have heels, they may be flats, but nonetheless they may be a different color, they may have heels, they may be flats, but nonetheless, you guys are in those shoes, and I can tell you from my life that there is nothing more healthy than talking to someone that's in your position, and you may think that you don't have anything to share, but I'm here to tell you you do share, but I'm here to tell you you do, and so, if you've been a widow for a quite some time, I encourage you to to register and to go, because you have a gift to give someone that may walk in that door.
Speaker 1:That is two weeks into widowhood, yes, and you know. There again, there's nothing better than than having already been there and tell somebody that it's going to be okay. I think that comes in our life all the time. I had a friend here in Chicago whose husband lost his job due to ageism after 38 years and we went through something like that with Craig and I was able to tell her you know what? It's okay. You know you weren't ready to retire yet, but it's okay. The door that, for us, the door that closed, was a door that needed to be closed and the door that opened was the door that definitely needed to be opened. And I think that any time you're going through anything, whether it's widowed or you've broken up, you feel like maybe that door is especially at an older age, you feel like we're slammed shut. That's it for me. I'm done, I'm finished, you know it's over and there is no point in life that it's over until you give up.
Speaker 2:No, no, definitely. And if I you just mentioned age, very interesting because because I had, prior to my signing up for this, I had done some research on what is the average age within the United States of a person becoming widowed, and it actually was 59. And then, when I started with Soaring Spirits and don't quote me exactly, but the people that they have coming to their local groups the average age of their widowhood was 47. And when you think about a 47-year-old a mother, maybe with, or a father, the father I would love to get the fathers who have elementary school kids yes and because they need the support of the females who've been there with raising kids, you know, and I'd like to see that support.
Speaker 1:Um, interesting that you bring men up in that, because I've noticed in my lifetime now now my girlfriend has never remarried. She never remarried. She focused on her boys, did an amazing job raising two young men that are phenomenal young men. She focused on that. Did she date? Did she have some relationships? Absolutely, but her boys came first and for men, as you know, that's not always an easy thing. But I've always noticed that men, no matter the age when they become widowed, don't seem to stay widowed very long, and I think a group like this might increase the chances of them staying widowed longer and focusing on their children or their family, instead of focusing on oh my gosh, I'm alone, let me fill that void. And that's not always the best for the kids, I'm just. I mean, it's just not. And I think a group like this for men is extremely important for for that For all the other facts that we've talked about.
Speaker 1:But I don't know about you, but have you always noticed that men seem to? I mean, you've stayed single for quite some time, but men seem to like pair up right away?
Speaker 2:Yes or they're 40. Yes, and you're talking about, um, uh, that it's better for their children if, if they slow down that process, but actually it's often better for them.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:What if you run into a new relationship and you haven't even given it time, you don't know the ins and outs about the other person, and then you commit to them and you get married and it was too soon, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I've seen that in a few instances and it always breaks my heart. I understand that, wanting to be a swan and having your other swan, whatever it looks like, but it's not always the best for you and I and and for children it is. It's a very big struggle and and that focus needs to be there and I think a group like this helps people understand that at all. Interesting that 59 age just seems so young, right, it's like yeah, it is yeah.
Speaker 1:You know there's a lot of life after you know you got another 30 some odd years left. You definitely want to live it to your best, but also go through the process of losing someone, and this group sounds wonderful. I'm I'm excited for you. It seems, from knowing you and we've had other interviews this seems like just a perfect match for you, like a perfect marriage, so to speak, of your skillset.
Speaker 1:So if you are unlucky enough to be widowed but lucky enough to live in the Orange County area, jeannie's program is a great place to go and a great place to be, and if it's not for you, please share it with someone in your life that you think it is for. The information will be on my website and, jeannie, I want to thank you for being here today and sharing. I was excited to get your email and what was going on in your life and you wanted to share it with my listeners. It's valuable information for many people and it may not, you know, today you may not be that person, but in a period of time you may be that person that needs this information and I'm glad that we're able to share it with them. So thank you very much and I look forward to our next conversation.
Speaker 2:It's always good to see you, marcy, thank you. Thank you very much, and I look forward to our next conversation.
Speaker 1:It's always good to see you, marcy, thank you, thank you. Well, here we are with our Did you Know segment. I always think it's kind of fun to learn a little something. I hope you enjoy this segment. So there's 12 months out of the year. If you didn't know that, now you do, don't say you didn't ever learn anything on this podcast.
Speaker 1:Out of all 12 of those months, which month do you think has the highest birth rate? I'll give you a couple seconds to think about it. Well, it is August. August is the highest birth rate month, month that means all those women go through their end of pregnancy at the height of summer heat. I look, I don't know, my mom was an august baby. She was a leo, true and true. But uh, yeah, that's that's. Uh, I had one in october and I had one in january, so I don't fall into that category. But there you go, that's your Did you Know, and I want to thank Jeannie again for a great interview. I want to thank all of you for listening. Please share this podcast. Let's get it to grow. Talk to you later, go out and do something positive. Thank you.