65 - Tera Tveit Pt 1: All I Know So Far

Join nurse educator and Spokane, Washington native Honored Guest Tera Tveit as she waxes eloquent about how to pronounce her name, the song she shares with all of her nursing students, her rough start as a nurse, why she left bedside nursing, how she got into education, her break from nursing entirely, multiplying herself, how she got into nursing in the first place, nursing as a hobby, and more!

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Hello and welcome to this amazing episode of Feeding Our Young. I am, as I always am, so excited to introduce the absolutely lovely human being I have in studio with us today. But before I do that, a little disclaimer. I'm going to introduce her by her first name. Her first name is Tera. And I'm not going to touch her last name with a 10 -foot pole because it's very uniquely spelled. It's very uniquely pronounced. And everybody's going to hear this and go, Are you a moron? Maybe that's what Tera's thinking right now. But regardless, you'll at least see why I'm not going to disrespect her that way. Tera, welcome to the studio. How are you? I'm so excited that you're here. I'm so glad this worked out. And also, a little peek behind the scenes for everybody. Someone's doing this on their anniversary and it's not me. I know, I know I thought about it, but I knew it was. It's not like we had all day planned, so it was just fine. Exactly, like it's not like I mean you guys aren't going away. Well, I'll let you all unpack that business, but thank you for being here on such a special day. I feel honored to share the day in the both of you. You know, just bring your pull your husband in let him say a few words. I'm just kidding. So Tera, why won't I touch your last name? Please introduce yourself to everybody. Tell them who you are and if you just want to lead right into what schools did you attend? When did you graduate and with what degrees? Sure. So my last name is T -V -E -I -T. It's Norwegian and it's pronounced Twight. So that's why Eric was, it was not going to touch that. And a lot of people do that as well. I remember waiting for a prescription once at Rite Aid and over the loudspeaker, I kept hearing this weird name, but it wasn't mine. And then I finally... Finally, they just used my first name. I'm like, yeah. So yeah, I get it. So yeah, yeah. ways have you heard it pronounced if you don't mind throwing a few out there? A lot of different ways. And some of them not very, they're kind of rated X and it's like, let's not, let's not go there. A lot of people like to throw a W in there and you know, so yeah. So yeah. That's okay. I grew up here in the valley and. I went, I did my education a little bit different than everybody else, probably. I went for a year at Eastern Washington University, kind of freaked out because my grades weren't as good as they should have been to get in. They weren't a 3 .7, I should say that, to get into the local intercollegiate college for nursing education here in Spokane. So transferred to SCC. I have a AA there, did the rest of my prereqs. And then I got into Columbia Basin College in Pasco. So I got a two -year degree there and then went to WSU Richland campus for another two years part -time while I worked and got my bachelor's degree. And then in 2020, I graduated from Gonzaga University in a master's degree in nursing leadership and healthcare. So. What a journey. What a journey. And I love that it's, you know, unique. That's the whole thing, right? I wouldn't change it for anything. Yeah, you and me both, you and me both. Similarly unique as far as that goes. So, where are you from? And this can be answered in so many different ways, and I think you are going to, so go right ahead. I consider myself from Spokane. I was born in Bozeman, Montana, but only lived there for about six weeks for my mom to recover. then because my dad had already moved everybody to Wyoming, Green River, Wyoming, and I lived there for about for five years. And then we moved to the Valley and I lived here until I was 20 when I got married. lived in Tri -Cities for eight years and then moved back when my youngest was born in 2001. No, yeah, 2001. I'm like, wait a minute, when is he born? Yeah, 2001. And so I really do consider Spokane my... Awesome. Awesome. And it's a great place to consider home, at least in my biased opinion. Yeah, by golly. I try and turn this into like a promo for the city of Spokane. I'm gonna look for... It is. just, no matter the rap it gets from, you know, certain people about certain things, but we're going to leave that alone. So a couple more questions here in the very intro and then we'll just kind of figure out who you are. But as I ask everybody, what are the three words you would use to describe nursing school? Yes, I use the word challenging, fulfilling, and life -altering. very good and very apropos words. So we'll find out why you picked those at the end. Maybe I'm doing myself a disservice. Maybe people now, by the time they hear this episode, like, Eric, we've already figured it out, or we're gonna work on figuring it out and not hear anything you guys have to say between now and the beginning. I don't know. But as of today, which people are gonna hear this way later, but as of today, brilliant idea came to me while running, and I just love it. So if you can continue this fine new tradition, I want to ask people, what are your, and I know sometimes this can be difficult to narrow down, but what are your three favorite songs right now? Well, right now is really, I'm really glad you said that because music to me changes. My love for music changes and I think everybody's favorite songs change. One of the things that I like to do when I can't really express how I'm feeling, don't consider myself very articulate sometimes. So I like to use music to show my emotions. So if my husband and I are having a difficult time, I might send him a song or if I have students. I'm not that are having a difficult time. I like to send music to kind of express how I'm feeling. I love that. So right now, the three I like, this summer, actually the last year has been kind of rough for my husband and I, and not in a personal sense, but just in rough life, a lot of bad things happened. And so right now, one of my favorite songs is Don't Give Up On Me by, I just said his name, but I can't remember now. it's not Gavin DeGraw, it's the other one. with an A and it's the other one, not Gavin DeGraw, but it started with an A. I remember you saying that. I'd have to look it up. But it's, it's, can't, you look it up. Yeah. If you're talking about like, huh, it's called Don't Give, Don't Give Up On Me. Andy Grammar. Andy Grammar. You're right. Andy Grammar. I really like that song. It talks about, it's about a couple that are having a lot of maybe stress in their life, but they always come back together and hold their hands. And so anyway. the other is called, is me from the, greatest showman, album, that album, when I was going through a really rough time about in the wreck 2018, I think it was when it first came out, I listened to that album for about three months solid. Anytime I got into the car, that's the only thing I listened to is that whole album. It's a long album, but this is me. And talks a little bit about, Hey, this is what you're going to get you. What you see is what you get. I'm going to be authentic and I'm going to be myself. So I like that one. And then the one that I want my students to hear is called All I Know So Far by Pink. I don't know if you've ever heard it, but. I know not a huge pink guy, this is the other, this is also, a lot of things come like selfish for me, my motivations in this. So I was like, I'm gonna ask people because I want to hear music that's outside of what I'm used to listening. It's my favorite to give to nursing students because it talks about how they're going to try to tell you who you are and they're going to try to tell you how to be. And you're going to come away with a lot of scars and those scars though are what's going to help tell the story of your life and your world and who you are. And then it talks about how you want to break. It's okay that there's a crack in the wall because that's what let the light, let's the light shine in. And then it just is so to me like being a nurse. And then the best part is, throw your head back and spit in the wind. And it's, it's just, there's a funny sort of part to it. But anyway, that's, that is one I give to my students. So yeah, you'll like it. hearing you talk about that gives me goosebumps. Like I said, this came to me while running my 140, I think I'm at 147th half marathon this morning. But I was listening to one particular piece that gave me goosebumps, which is always awesome. That's the power of music. Not so fun when you're trying to run, but otherwise, it is. And that's what I love about music. I just feel like so many people connect with music in so many different ways, like you said. I wrote a piece years ago about how it acts as a time machine. You can listen to a song and it takes you straight to a moment, straight to a person, straight to an event or a time in your life and I just love that. So, all right, we can talk. Go ahead. Please do, please do. with my family camping and we were playing cards and on the somebody was playing their phone and it was Eddie Rabbit. I love a rainy night and it brought me right back to the house across the street in our basement roller skating when we were six years old, eight years old, whatever. So I'm totally Yes, that is exactly what it does for me too. I literally, wasn't even, what I was gonna say was, I'm gonna stop us here, because we could talk the whole episode about this. I genuinely feel like we could. Audiophiles that we both apparently are. But yeah, that reminded me, if I listen to Prince, for example, I am in my buddy, and I'm just shouting him out here, Ace, Anthony, Ace Aguiluz I'm in his basement with his family, you know what I mean? We're friends and we're making videos and all that, but Prince was a huge, that's that. I, you know, you, Queen for me takes me to high school. Yes, I'm old, but I'm not that old. But the point... Yeah, so good. Anyway, I said, we're gonna... Ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy episode one of Terra where we discuss everything music related You're gonna have a list of music to listen to by the time we're After every question I ask you now now you must come up with a song that relates to that question. Just kidding All right, so let's dig into the nitty -gritty. Let's dig into the nitty -gritty. All right, so You just mentioned I like to give this to my students which kind of clues me in on the fact that you might not just just be a Benside nurse? What is it that you do currently? Or if you don't mind, let's just open up the whole nursing career path. Sure. When I graduated in 95, yes, I'm old. I started at a nursing home back in 95. There was no nursing shortage. So we had to fight for the jobs in the hospital. And I had chosen not to get a job right away, but to come up to Ross Point Camp and Conference Center in Post Falls and be the camp nurse for the summer. So while I did that, then when I went back, I didn't have a job. So I went to a nursing home. And I lasted two days. The first day I left balling my head off. Like none of them have name tags. None of, I don't know who they are. I don't know what medicine I'm giving them. I don't know why I'm giving it. I don't know the whole rights. Okay. So my husband and my best friend were like, you just have to go back the next day. You have to try it again. And I went and I did my eight hours and I went, walked into the director of nurses office and I said, listen, this isn't gonna work for me. You don't have to pay me. You don't have to file any of the paperwork. I just wasn't here. She started laughing. She was like, no, I'll pay you. So I quit. So my first job ended up being that night actually, I got a call from a friend who worked at a business health clinic doing drug screens and physicals for the Department of Transportation. So I did that until I could get into the hospital. And then I worked three years in med surge. best thing I ever could have done in my opinion. I did a year as a public health nurse. And then I did, I was trying to think, I think about 20 years as bedside, labor and delivery within that all, but probably two years was charge nurse assistant unit manager. did manager for a year. And then I became the, hospital supervisor and this was all at Deaconess here in Spokane. Did hospital supervisor for two years while I was getting my masters and then when I was near finishing I got a job at Kootenay being their nurse educator. Now this was in COVID time so I didn't really get to do a ton of nurse education. I did more training for labor pools and how to team nurse and things like that. Yeah. then I had sort of a life altering experience and I decided I didn't want to be a nurse anymore. And I quit and I worked at Macy's. I sold fine jewelry from November and December. I love it! I love this! I didn't even know this about you. This is so exciting. November, December, January, it got really boring after Christmas. And then I got a job at Ritter's Garden and Gift, which is a nursery, plant nursery and big gift shop up on the north side. And I worked there for a year. Right before I started, Guns A. had called me and asked me if I would come back as an adjunct clinical instructor, because I actually had been a clinical instructor for OB for two years prior, but when I got the full -time job at Kootenay, can't, you couldn't do it. So I went back to doing clinical only and I did that for a year and then got asked to teach a class a semester, Path of Farm two, did that for a semester. And then in the fall, I got last, last fall, a year ago, I got the full -time faculty position. So I'm quite happy now where I'm at. And that's, mean, that is quite the story. You are the first honored guest recorded that has that break from nursing in between. Did you, and out of curiosity, during that time, did you ever like, was there ever a longing to go back or were you like, man, I made the right decision. I am not looking back at all. I've never regretted it. The only reason at this point right now, because things change every day, but the only reason I would go back to the bedside is if financially I had to. And I would do it very cautiously because it's done and I've moved into such a different place. Yeah, you've accepted the closure of that chapter of your life for sure. Yeah. I don't need the emergencies. I don't need the death. I don't need, I don't need it anymore. I love what I do now. Yeah, and now you get to replicate the best parts of you in future nurses. And that to me, like that's, yeah. I can imagine there are plenty that would confirm this. the truth of matter is, that's the thing, it's not addition. you are multiplying, it's multiplication. And that's what I like to say. I'm like, I am not all that, but I'm gonna take the best parts of me and if I can replicate that in future nurses, then by golly, you guys all start, you know, maybe higher up than I did, and you can now take it to the next level. And that's great. That's all I care about. So let's dial it back to, and these are two slightly different questions. So the first question of course is who inspired you to become a nurse and then why did you want to become a nurse? Right. My, grew up, at my parents were, were volunteer firefighters and first responders, EMTs. my dad retired after many years. and then my mom actually had gotten into it and she wanted to be an EMT. My dad, to be a firefighter, volunteer, had to be a first responder. If you're a paid firefighter, you have to be an EMT. So. He was a first responder, is the step below an EMT. And then my mom became a firefighter and wanted that EMT. So I watched her and kind of watched the medical side of what she did. And then I was a year older than all my classmates for, I didn't get held back for academic reasons. I was a, I want to clarify this. This is, was a sickly asthmatic child. There you go. daughter, I had had pneumonia five times from January to October. And my pediatrician said, please don't put her in kindergarten quite yet. So anyway, I was older. So as an 18 year old, the fire department, I asked them, you know, could I, I can't do the firefighting cause the smoke and the asthma, but I could do the EMT stuff. And they're like, sure. So they sponsored me and I went to sec my senior year and became the EMT and then got to be with the volunteer fire department like that. Wow. my mom sort of inspired the medical side of me. But then when I got to be an EMT, it's my senior year in high school and I'm watching them, the ambulance take off with all these patients. And I'm like, I don't, I, what happened? What happens? What'd you do? So I ended up exactly, you never get that rest of the story when you're in the, in the emergency medicine. So I decided kind of right then and there, I want to be the person that they. bring the patient to. And I didn't at that point, I wanted to be an ER nurse. learned when I was in med surgeon was trying to decide where to go from there. My two options were women's health or critical care. And I'd done some ICU stuff and I chose women's health. And I'm really glad I did. But that's kind of how it all became. just for all of my schooling, I in fact, until my senior year, I thought I was going to be a teacher or a secretary because that's what girls did and I didn't know or think that there was something else I could do. So that opened my brain to like, wait a minute. So really, mean, this now lifelong career can be credited to a moment of curiosity. Really? I mean, I feel like that's a shallow, shallow summary, but it's still like, yeah. it was good. You know, lot of our students, I hear them talking about how they go into nursing because they experienced something horrible like cancer or breaking a bone or whatever. They were in the hospital and they experienced the care they got from nurses. And my curiosity was more like, wait a minute, I, what happens next? I want to know. I want to keep helping them. I don't want to just watch them drive away. So. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's I'd love hearing. Like you just said, a lot of people, when I ask that question, that is the answer. There's someone inspirational at a young age, middle age, whatever. And they, man, I want to be that person. For me, it was because of my wife. I don't like, quite honestly, because I grew up wanting to be a doctor, took a dovetail into the ministry, and coming out of that knowing that full -time ministry was not the thing for me, was, you know, my wife's like, what if we, I was like, I don't know, we had our first son, we're like, what are we gonna do? And I said, you know, she's like, well, you should go back and finish wanting to become a doctor. I'm like, Now it's a lot of time, not only am I away from you, I'm away from my baby, I'm away from you both, and I'm, and, and, and she just straight up, and I had a career in medical records, and she was like, well, why not a nurse? And there's just those moments where you go, huh, wait a second, God's speaking through my wife, I should probably listen. And so, no, it just, was like, the more I thought about it, and the more I looked into it, it was like, no, that's more in line with what I wanna do. But the thought, prior to that moment, never entered my mind, even being around healthcare. So it's great. Yeah. And to move it even further, my senior year I was dating my current husband now and he was a firefighter EMT and his mom actually was a nursing instructor at SCC. She actually, used to teach at the Deaconess School of Nursing. Yeah. And it closed down in the seventies and, she was a, she was a nurse for 42 years. So then having that in there and watching her, I'm like, I'm going to do that someday. I'm going to do that. That's, that's part of, that was part of my plan very early is I think I want to teach someday, but I I needed to be ready to move away from the bedside. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, you know, there's that old incorrect adage, if you can't do, you teach, right? Like, no, no, no, no, no. You can do both. Let's do both. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. So, and I have to ask this, even though you've touched on it in many different ways, I just loved how you put it on paper. So I'm gonna ask the question, even though you've kind of answered it, do you have any other healthcare workers in your family? Run the list by a sister. Okay, I'm going to start with my side. my mom and mom was EMT. Dad was a first responder. My sister is, has been a nurse for I think 17 years. She got her degree after me. I've, I'm hit 29 years this, this fall. She's 17. And then, on my husband's side, his sister is a, nurse has been a nurse for, she's probably close to 20. five, 26 years. His mom was 42 years. And then his brother's wife is a just retired as from being a pediatric nurse practitioner here in Spokane. So we've, yeah. And it's terrible because it, like Thanksgiving or something, Tom's brother's a CPA and his sister Sister worked in insurance and they would just sit like, can you guys stop now? So it's always been a big joke, but yeah. well, I mean, and you're talking about, you know, and this has come up before with other nurses, it's come up on this podcast about how those in the medical field are so numb to the things you talk about. So we'll be all eating lunch and dinner and we're all talking about all these disgusting things. you get like the CPA or whoever and they're like, this is Thanksgiving. Can you stop please? yeah, we've had to stop and then we just laugh at him. He turns green and then we're like, OK, we'll stop. We'll stop. I bet the conversation prior to family Thanksgiving dinner every year for him is just delightful. Like, okay, honey, we're going to the family dinner. no, not this year. Please no. No, no, well, we're there for you, man. We're there. We feel you even though we don't know what you're going through. On that note, go ahead and tell us about your family. Well, like today is my 31st wedding anniversary. I started dating my husband when my senior year in high school. He was 25. He's seven years older than I am. So he was 25. I was 18 and, and I got married at 20. I started nursing school on my 21st birthday. It was a Monday. We went to a tavern cause we didn't have bar and girls. We had really fancy or you had fast food. You didn't have this middle of the line, right? It was even probably a step lower than Denny's, but we went to a tavern. I had my first legal drink watching Monday Night Football. And then we... After about five years, had our first, I needed to get done with school because I did it the long way, right? My first son was born in 1998. He's 26. He lives in Cheney. He graduated from Eastern with a degree in manufacturing technology and works on building maintenance out at Fairchild Air Force Base. He's single. I try to push my students on him all the time, but it hasn't worked out yet. Any ladies out there listening that are otherwise not... Please, please email that special email address that you want to get a message to our honored guests. We'll make sure Tera gets that. Yeah, he's just a shy kid. So and then my youngest was born in 01. We moved back to Spokane in 01. Actually, we put our house on the market on September 11th of 01. So it was like. This what you know what's the world even going to look like so? So we've been back here since 01. He is. 23. Got married at 21, so got married almost two years ago. No, it'll be three years in October. So he must have just, maybe he's 24. No, he's not 24. Shoot, now I don't know. Anyway. to the second son. Your mom is working on the math. We'll get back to you later. There you go, yeah. Anyway, so he got married. I have a lovely daughter -in -law that, that he and her had started actually dating at around age 14 through youth group. They've known each other since they were way younger than that. And they went to school together. So they, they have, they, they actually currently are youth leaders at Spokane Valley Baptist Church. And, He works in manufacturing for hoses and she works at Barnes and Noble and out at camp. that's about it for our little family. we have dogs. Tom and I, because he's retired, he retired last year and the kids have moved out since Adam was 19. Chris never did come back when he left at 18. Adam moved out at 19. So we've been kind of empty nesters. for quite a while and we have dogs. That's sort of our thing. They go with us everywhere. We take vacations with them. are part of our family. We lost our nine -year -old dog in May. That was kind of the crappy start of my summer. But I have Ziva who is three, four years old, four years old. And then we just got a puppy this summer too who is now four. just over four months old. And she has a lab border collie, which is what Gus was, and she's a doll. So we have been busy with them. We name our pets after TV or movie characters. So, so Ziva's name is Ziva David Tveit from NCIS. Zoe is the puppy. We had a hard time with Zoe because we liked the word Zoe, but we couldn't find like an actor or actress that. So we tried to go backwards. Yeah. Right. So her name is Zoe Gamora Tveit Gamora from Guardians of the Galaxy. real name is Zoe. So there. And I had a fish named Gibbs, but he died. And I had a snail named Gary, but that was... Gary, gosh, I can't imagine why the snail would be named Gary. All right, we'll leave that one there, because everybody knows exactly where we're going with that one. On that last note about you, what are the various, when you are not teaching, when you have this lovely summer and you're not raising toddler dogs, what hobbies and interests do you have? What keeps you busy? I, I love to read. almost always read at night before I go to bed. It's really good for anybody out there to kind of shut your brain off from everything else. If you can really get into a good book till you're about to sleep, just put the book down and roll over and you're good. I also garden, I love flowers. So, if you ever came to my house, you would see, I have a lot of. seasonal flowers and pots a lot more than more than most people. I spent a little chunk of money on that one. In fact, at Ridders, I'm not sure I had a paycheck, I like flowers. I like to garden. We camp. We just got two four -wheelers. So we've been doing that. We have a boat, kayaks. I got a stand -up paddleboard for Mother's Day. So we just like to be outside. That's a big part of it. So when it's so hot, when it has been so hot this summer, we are like, no thank you. We went to Montana and it was 75 and I'm like, this is wonderful. Of course it was 40 at night and we got cold, but you know. That's okay, I'll take that all summer long. That's fine. That's me. That's me. think too, I've always, nursing has always been a hobby to me as well. And that kind of got me into trouble when trying to cope with the hard parts of nursing. So now, yes, I have a hobby. I think teaching is my hobby too. I think of it as that. don't do it because of the paycheck. And a lot of people say that, but my husband's retired. We have a great pension. I don't really need this job. I do it because I like it. I want it. So it also gives me an opportunity to work on different things within teaching that I wouldn't necessarily do because I like it. You know what I mean? Does that make sense? I think it's brilliant that you're able to live that out because yeah, you're absolutely right. Like I've made it very clear to the people that I work with and anyone that'll listen, everyone, so I'm like, you know, if I didn't have six mouths to feed, I'd still do this, but I do it a lot less. You know what I mean? Right, right. The schedule works so that I'm not full time. After I worked full time at Kootenai, I'm like, I'm never doing that again, ever. This is for the birds. I am too old for this. I'm, so yeah. I love it. Anyway. Okay, pivot. question, and if you're fine with this, I'll still honor your time. We're gonna be done before your allotted time is done. But we are nearing what would be the traditional first episode length. So if it's all right with you, let's turn Tera into a Tera -Twofer. Sound good? Tera -Twofer! Tera -Twofer! We good for the Tera -Twofer? I have that teeth I used to have. I know. I've got the most ridiculous face on when I'm saying that. So you okay with me asking one more question, then we'll dive into a second episode? All right. So I just want to pick up on something you had just said and talked about nursing as a hobby. I've never heard that phrase that way before. For the benefit of our listening audience, what do you mean by that? You know the old saying that if you love what you do, you never work a day in your life? Yes, we we just heard it this morning in a previous episode I recorded, and it's ironically in the episode that Tera has not heard from today. So that's the theme of today. Sorry, go ahead. find that to be, well, that's okay. I find that to be very, very true. Yeah. People that go into nursing, if they don't like it, if they don't get up every morning looking forward to it, they're not gonna stay. And it's cause it's that hard, you know? It's not something you can just deal with every day for a paycheck. My husband feels the same way about when he was a fireman. He goes, I love going to work every day. I don't feel like it's work. Cause if he didn't, the things that he saw, the things that he had to do, the things that he experienced. No one would do that on purpose. And that's kind how I felt with nursing is I never really up until probably up until COVID, I never, I never really, I never hated going to work. never dreaded it. There might be times where I needed, you know, more sleep or time off or whatever, but I always loved everything that I did when I did it. And that's kind of, to me, that's a hobby. That's not a... job. You do hobbies because you want to. Yeah. And when I stopped wanting to, I stopped nursing for a while. yeah. that's, and that's, it's brilliant. I love it. I've just never heard it phrased that way. And now we're going to get t -shirts made. Tera's nursing as a hobby t -shirts. It's going to be great. And some the, I don't know, hospital administrators are going to be like, what in the world are you guys talking about? So with all that, we're going to wrap this one up. Please, please, please everyone jump on board to episode two. In episode two, we're going to unpack, we're going to talk about some personal challenges that Tera has faced and more than that we're gonna pick her nursing instructor brain and that's gonna be intriguing both to other nursing instructors, but also to nursing students as well. You get to kind of hear what goes on behind the scenes things of that nature, what motivates Tera what's going on there. So please don't miss it. Tera, we'll see you on the flip side. Sounds good.