145 - Katelyn Makemson Pt 2: I Find Sanity in the Insanity

Continue with very recent graduate and Jasper, Alabama native Honored Guest Katelyn Makemson as she describes her short- and long-term career plans, how she’s prepping for the NCLEX, working through nursing school with a jaw-dropping diagnosis, and so much more, including closing her episode with her two favorite Bible verses!

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Alright, so welcome to the B-side of the Katelyn Makemson Experience. If you missed part one, go back and listen to that one. Great, fantastic background, uh learning all about nursing externships and what makes Katelyn tick. But in the meantime, Katelyn, I know you've already touched on this, both in the beginning of your previous episode, and you know, talking about your plans in the ER, but what are your plans after graduation, both short-term and long-term? so starting my BSN on August 20th, that'll be a year. I'm gonna try to take probably August to December off just to work and focus on work. Kind of do have a break. I'm hoping still like pray for it all the time. Being able to get into a nurse practitioner program. Hopefully in the spring of 27. Just kind of go ahead and get the ball rolling because that's where I want to end up. I'm hoping to end up. I was kind of new when I saw like the side of nurse practitioner. I was like I do like this and then I found out you can be an emergency nurse practitioner and I was like I'm all for this. So that's you know I always I've always been praying that once I figured out, I feel like this would be a good spot for me. I was like, want to try my absolute best and pray my hardest that this works out for me. I know going through that nurse practitioner program, some schools have it for two years, some schools have it for three years, just kind of depending on where you go to. then hopefully getting a family nurse practitioner and then specializing in emergency room. So can kinda stay where I love, which is in the mercy, cause I... It's weird, but I find sanity in the insanity. So I find sanity in like the chaos and stuff, if that makes sense. I do. I feel... I feel comfortable and collected when everything's going crazy. So, um... So, but yeah. That's the long-term goal for me. Honestly, short-term goal is just... you know, day by day, getting through this BSN. um And really short-term goal is just passing my NCLEX. There we go. so, uh, you know, pulling that back around, uh, how long before you're sitting for it? So I actually just kind of paid all my dues and all of this stuff like two days ago. So I've got to wait for my attention to test, which is gonna be about two weeks roughly. And then I'll probably wait another week or two, just kind of seeing how soon I can take it. Cause I'm ready to get it done and over with, honestly. but Orlando Health, they pay for NCLEX. So that was another blessing. I was panicking because I was like, I'm not going to pay for this. I don't have enough income. I've got to pay for my single state and then I've also got to pay $200 for the NCLEX and then I've got to pay for this BSN classes and all of this stuff and I'm like, can this not wait until like after I got my art job? But of course it can't. So, But yeah, was absolutely another blessing that just kind of popped up is that they're paying for it. So since they are paying for it, I'm just going to go and get my multi-state license. So they paid for all of that and stuff, and I'm going to do the fingerprinting and stuff. It's a little extra just for the single state. So for the multi-state, you got to fill out like an extra form and then do the fingerprinting. So uh that's where I go after this, is to go ahead and do that. uh So yeah, because I can't get my attention to test until those fingerprints are done. So that's why I'm like, as soon as possible and stuff. So yes, so hopefully for my LPN, when it kind of, they tell you when you like pay for everything, like your attention to test is gonna come in at about two weeks. You know, it says like roughly two weeks, that kind of stuff. For my LPN, when my TEM license came in at about a week, week and a half after I applied and then My attention to tests came in, I want to say like a week after that, which for also another blessing in my job is that they allow us to work on an RN temp license. So as long as I have my temp license, I can work. you know, so that, I also want to go ahead and get my NCLEX done and over with. So they're not like, Hey, when are you going to take your test? Hey, are you going to take it now? You can't be on the temp license forever. So. curiosity, how long would they allow you, not that that's what you're gonna do, but how long would they allow you to work on the temp license? I honestly don't know. Everywhere is different. Probably like a year, year and a half ago I heard that UAB does like three months. So you get your temp license for like either six to nine months. Somewhere, I want to say it's six. But I think, because I was talking with somebody that was working on her temp license at UAB and they were like, they give you three months to get your test done. and like your actual license in. So I figure they're not gonna let you, you know, just milk out your whole 10 flascens, but there's gonna be some little stopping point somewhere, but it is a blessing for them to be like, just make sure you have your 10 flascens and then just let us know when your test date is and stuff. I will be on my orientation when I go and take it so I can kind of... work around it. That's why I also want to go ahead and get it done while I'm during orientation because they can work with me. Which my manager, she's absolutely amazing. She has worked with me so much for so, like just school-wise trying to transition me into the RN role and stuff like that. even, I think even if I was out of orientation, she would still work with me, honestly. She's just absolutely amazing. So in the back of my mind, I'm hearing nursing student voice asking, what, how are you, you're like, I wanna get this done, I wanna get this done, I wanna get this done. What are you gonna do in the meantime to prep for the NCLEX, if anything? Okay, so at double state, they like in your tuition over your last semester, it's a little bit higher than the other tuition semesters. You pay for an ATI review and it's a three day kind of like bootcamp that you do. And it goes through ATI, somebody from ATI comes in and talks with you and kind of goes through this review book. And then they also in your tuition, you pay for Hearst review. That's also like a three day bootcamp. um I've talked to a ton of different people like, what did you do? How did you do it? Because I want to see all the different ways I can study for it with people that have actually passed, if that makes sense. So, um I know my friends, they're like questions, a few questions a day, that kind of stuff, which I already kind of like started that, if that makes sense. I already knew I was like, I'm gonna do questions and stuff but at the same time like... feel like I can do more. You know, because I want to be like over prepared instead of under prepared. So my plan as of right now, I have the Mark Klemick lectures. They're on Spotify. I'm going to listen to those. And then I have his notes that go along with those lectures. So my plan um is to listen to a lecture, say it's on cardiac, and then go into my Hearst review because For ATI, you get the virtual ATI that you do in your last semester. So that's like questions that go along with what you did in the review and then just overall ATI, really. Then in the HRST review, you get a book and you kind of, it's got blanks in it so you can keep along and follow along in it. That stuck better with my brain. Now other people said that they liked the ATI review better and I was like, okay, that's you. Mine, I love this HRST review. just kind of going through it. once you in that tuition, you're paying for the first bootcamp, but you're also paying for the online Hearst website and stuff. So that's got like a ton of questions and videos so I can finish out my little booklet that they gave me, lectures, the videos that we watched from the part of the booklet that I've already finished while we were there, that kind of stuff. So, um, My plan right now is to go through Mark Lamek lecture, say it's on cardiac, and then go into Hearst and look up all cardiac questions and do like 50 of them to 100 of them, as many as I can. But I also like to do 10 questions at a time. I don't want to overload my brain or sit there and be like, I'm brain dead right now. Like I can't answer a question. I like keeping my brain rested and then let's do a little bit. rest, do a little bit, rest, do a little bit because I don't want to overload myself and then when I get to the end clicks like I'm burnt out on questions I don't even want to answer none of these so... No, that's incredible advice and I think that's well noted because it is possible to overdo it, it's possible to underdo it. And it's just finding that, I guess for lack of a better term, finding that Goldilocks sweet middle, right? Like just that nice sweet spot. Mm-hmm, keeping everything fresh. So the end collects of course super challenging, always daunting, et cetera, et cetera. And I know you've kind of touched on this already, but it's kind of the last... middle conversation question I have for you, the things you wanted to talk about. It sounds like you've already overcome some challenges in life, so what would you like to share as far as that's concerned? Really just the stuff that I've went through with my shoulder and having to go through twice. But I always like to, a lot of people say I talk about it too much, but I'm like, oh well, I'll talk about it one more time if you want me to, I don't care. I do like to make it aware. So I have a rare heart condition. When I was documented back when I was diagnosed back when I was 14, I was documented case 61 in the entire US ever. It is called neurocardiogenic syncope. It is a heart condition from your vagal nerve. Yes. So that vagal nerve runs spine, heart, stomach, right? Those are like the big ones that it hits through. Mine, our cardiologist's word, norwears, so we kind of come up to it to find middle ground is it's wound too tight, okay? okay. um, so, I know, I just like to bring it up because not a people heard of it and I like, I like knowing the weird diagnosis. I like knowing the rare ones because my luck, I want to have somebody come in and I'm triaging them and I'm like, what now? You have what? So, um, I always like to bring this up and this is the reason I didn't have that shoulder surgery because, like how I talked before, um, So again, documented case 61, very rare. So the way my cardiologist described it is, you know when people pass out at the sight of blood, it's like that, but 10 times more severe. So I am on middendrin three times a day, salt tablets three times a day for this. we originally, yes. Ken? since I was probably 17, because when I was 14, when I was first diagnosed with it, we thought I could kind of manage it lifestyle-wise. And then it just kind of bumped up and was like, no, I want to up you, you're going to need medicine. um I took a sip when my first, what do call it, my episodes. When my first episode happened, I took a very small drink of a Mountain Dew. And it was so small you couldn't even tell I took a sip out of the drink. And all of a sudden, I barely remember it, because normally when I have an episode I don't remember right before or probably 30 minutes after, just that post-ictal kind of state. um So I took a sip of it and we were getting ready to take me to school, which my mom was taking me, my two cousins, and my little sister. She was gonna take us all to school, daycare, wherever we needed to go. And so, took a sip in the car and I passed out, but I mimicked an epileptic seizure. And so, like, I was convulsed. Uh, my head was back. I was rolled back the whole nine. Right? So, um, went to the, went to Children's, because again, I was like 14 at the time. Like, nobody else was really going to see me. They were going to send me to Children's anyways, which mom requested to go to Children's. So I went to children's, they couldn't really figure out. So we got in with neurologists, cardiologists, anything we could. We really went to neurologists first because you have a, yes, yeah, so like neurologists is gonna be your first line. So went there, you know, I did all the EEGs, all the things and all of that. Did all the tests as much as I could. And then they said, go to a cardiologist. Everything's fine with her brain, go to a cardiologist. So we did. We went to our family cardiologist. He's at Princeton. It's Dr. Mendelson. Absolutely love him. He's my grandmother, my grandfather's doctor. Like, love him. He's the one that diagnosed me. So love him even more, right? So we went to him. He did the EKG, did... did tests and stuff like that and it was, I can't really remember because it was so long ago, but I know I ended up having to do, know, all like so many EEGs, we're in heart monitors doing the like the exercise test where they get you on a treadmill and like you start walking and then I don't know where you're running full speed. Yeah, stress test. But that, and then I did a tilt table test. And that's kind of like, some people know what that is, some people don't. um So everything was fine until I did the tilt table test. And I lasted eight minutes and my heart stopped for eight seconds. So yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's very, very severe. So the only thing that really was was that like we could pin it down like causative wise. was that Mountain Dew, because I literally had that probably two seconds before I made that seizure. So we were like, I cut out drinks. I haven't had a soda since then. Like, so I just had a drink of water and sweet tea and I just move on about my date. So, it's not really like caffeine wise, it's carbonation. So we found out that the carbonation, when it hits my taste buds, my taste buds thinks it's too much pain and shuts my body down. Wow. Yes, so then we also found out that so I was very athletic I did softball year-round travel ball school ball And then I also did volleyball on top of that because all of this was when I was in high school like eighth grade high school um Found out so normally you know everybody knows it's kind like when you're active Sometimes your normal heart rate and your normal blood pressure is a little bit lower just because that's your body kind of like preparing you just in case like we're still going to keep you in a safe range when you're exercising, pretty much. So I found out like my blood pressure was staying in like the 80s over 40s. My heart rate was staying in like the 40s. Everything was just super low. And I was looking back on it now, I was like, yeah, Katelyn, something was very wrong with you back then because I'd never had any energy. I just kind of muscle through and push through all athletic wise because I don't know, I'm not just going to give up on athletic because I was like, I'm fine, you know, I'm fine. I'll just drink me some water, give me a cup of coffee, something, I'll be fine. So that's just what I was doing and I was just, you know, muscling through all of it, but I just felt awful all the time. Like I was always trying to rest or I wasn't eating good because I was like, I don't even feel like it, you know? So we kind of cut out, you know, or we did cut out all of the carbonation, all of that good stuff. When I was 17, it caused me to have a wreck. So I had passed out while I was driving down a back road. I had wrecked, had a Jeep Wrangler. So it tumped over on its side. Thankfully I had the Jeep Wrangler because it did save me. Just because they're so sturdy. Even though it did tump over because they are top heavy, but they're so sturdy. But it was because my blood pressure and stuff had gotten so low it caused me to pass out. So after that, know, went back to the cardiologist. He was like, try these meds. We're going to do it three times a day. Get salt tablets over the counter. Do them three times a day and then drink a crap ton of water. And I was like, all right, I can do that because I was drinking a bunch of water anyways. But then I was like, I'm not having that happen ever again. And my mom and dad were like, you better drink gallons of water and take these meds on time, because this ain't ever happening again. Because it's terrified them too. I, you know, during the day I would drink probably about 10 bottles of water. But now when I was volleyball or softball or whatever, I would probably try to drink like a gallon and half. Wow. just because I was sweating so much and stuff. And also a fun thing, I love telling everybody this. Before I got diagnosed with this and before I was on medicine, I never sweat. Like I never did. I don't know if it was like just chemical wise, that was also my body telling me something was wrong or what. But I never really sweat. So when I started it, I came to mom and I was like, mom, what is this? Is this sweat? This is disgusting. Your first time like experiencing this. Oh like 15, or I was like 17, somewhere around there, I'm like, this is awful. You people do this? This is awful. Yeah, like, like, let me be off of this medicine, something. I'll just drink a bunch of water, do something else. I just don't want to be sweating all the time. But, but yeah, we've, I'm very religious about my medicine and that's another thing. I hate it. because like doing CPR on a patient sometimes I feel like I can't do adequate CPR. am but doing adequate CPR I just can't go as long for most people than most people. can probably go... yes I can probably go for about a minute and then my heart's racing, I'm out of breath and it's just because my heart is so sensitive. So I absolutely hate that because I'm like I'm so sorry I'm not putting this on y'all I really want to help. I'm doing adequate CPR but I just can't do it as long as y'all. So, but yeah, that's, it's one of those challenges that I just had to figure out. You know, it wasn't one thing. Yes, it was like, I've got to figure out how to live my day-to-day life with this going on, preventing at the same time, the whole nine. And so I've got it figured out because it used to be, you know, the carbonation in the drinks, so no soda. And then it also used to be needles. which is crazy because I'm a nurse now, but anyways. So uh just the pain of a needle injection, I would go out. That only happened for a few times, but then I adapted to it. So normally when I get like, saw that, like anything like that, I tell them like, look, I'm a baby, but I need you to count one, two, three, like count it down for me, please. Because I just kind of focus on something on the wall. I stare a hole through it I just focus on my breathing. And normally like, again, I sit down, I tell them to lay the bed down and I'll lay on my stomach if it's gotta be in, you know, back there or anything like that. So I'm like, I do as much as I can for it, but sometimes it just gotta go through its cycle. It's just gotta get out of my system, if that makes sense. So, but yeah, it's something, but I love talking about it because it's so rare and I love talking about stuff like that, because a lot of people might not know it. I even if like my mom or something had it, I would love talking about it because like, do you know this? Like have you heard of this before? So I do love talking about it and I know a lot of people are like, she always brings this up. I bring it up for awareness and stuff like that, you know? Like I'm not trying to be extra and be like, look at what my heart can do. Stop for 30 seconds? No, I don't like that, but that's just a part of it. and there's a difference between bringing it up to, you know what mean, like wearing it like, I go back, yeah, like when I go back, like when my son died, you know what I mean, it's like, you don't, I'm not playing a pity card, I'm not playing a grief card, yeah. about me. I just want you to know. And like I always tell all doctors about it, anybody that does come in to give me a shot, I'm like, look, this is what happens. I'm gonna try to prevent it as much as possible, but just in case, in case my heart stops, because the last time I had an episode, my heart stopped for close to 30 seconds. So yeah, so the thing is like, they said that I turned gray. you know, the pale. I didn't have a pulse, but I was still breathing. So that's why, like, I just have a whole list that I memorized. Like, hey, I have neurocardiogenic syncope. It causes me to pass out at pain. Needles hasn't done it in a while. I've learned my way around it, but just in case, my heart will stop. Yes, just in case, I'll tell you if I'm going to pass out. I can kind of feel it before it happens, that aura, you know. So, and they're just looking at me like, excuse me, what? But I have to make you aware of this. warning, yes, because I would, feel like the first time I forgot or something, it would happen. You know, so, but I just, I just be proactive. I keep an extra thing of medicine on me in case, that kind of stuff. But, and I wish a lot of people would do that. Like with those conditions and stuff. No, I don't wear a medical alert bra or something like that, but uh I've thought about it. and stuff like that. But at the same time, I kind of tell everybody. So just in case, kind of like, so the people I work with know that kind of stuff. um But yeah, that's one thing that... oh that like is one of my biggest pet peeves type of thing like well i've had blah blah blah blah but i'm not gonna tell you about it and i'm like i need to know that stuff like that's important information yes so that's just one of my my biggest things and it's it's unique to me it's crazy it's unique it's whatever but but yeah that's doesn't define you, but it is a part of you. I, Katelyn, I just, from top to bottom, beginning to now, you've been so incredibly inspiring. Like the things that you, cause this is something you've got to live with. This is something I don't know about. I don't have to experience that. And the fact that you are able to not only navigate nursing school and advocate becoming a nurse and all that, you're doing it with this extra sitting behind you, in you. uh ready to go off at any given moment. So I thank you for being so incredibly inspiring. uh For the sake of time, we're gonna pull this back around and I wanna, how has your inspiration got you through those three words that you used to describe nursing school? So what were those three words you chose and why did you pick them? it was demanding because you know, are, you got so much going on and it's just so like time demanding. um Kudos to all the people who had full-time jobs, kids. I don't know how you did it. I truly don't. You are a superwoman, Superman. You are absolutely amazing. I don't know how you did it. There were so many people in my class that had kids and had full-time jobs and had both. And one of the girls in my class, she got engaged, she planned a wedding, and she had a baby all throughout nursing school. And I'm like, you are a super woman lady. I don't know how you've just done all of this, but she did it with grace and elegance and all of them did. And I'm like, I'm over here panicking and I don't have a kid. I have a PRN job. Like, what am I doing? So... But yeah, it's just, it's very demanding. Don't let it just absolutely get to you. One of the things that I loved about Bevel is like my first semester, the teacher, you know, was kind of going through everything and she was like, one of the main things, have self care. This is a very demanding program. Make sure you kind of do something for yourself when you have time. And I still go through that. So I'm still like, all right, look, I did this, this and this and this. need, I need to go chill out by the pool. I need to go take a walk. I need to go. do something, whether it's just go grab a cup of coffee or something. I need to go and take a break. I need like a mental break from this for just a second. And at first I was like, I felt bad because I was like, I should be studying. I should be doing something else. I should be doing something for nursing school. I'm going to fall behind, but you're not. A lot of people feel like that, but you're not. You're on your track. Just don't only study 30 minutes before the test or something like that. Like just I always planned out my time. Like, all right, I'm going to study this for an hour. I'm going to go do this for an hour. I'm going come back and study. Space it out. You know, don't just sit there and sit down at a desk and study for six hours. Break it up. Don't don't drain your brain. um My second word is rigorous because I think that is top tier word for nursing school because it is just the assignments and you'll if there's just a nursing student or, know, a brand new nursing student listening to this, you will find out that there is more times than not stuff that you have to do that don't count for a grade. But if you don't do it, then you get points docked. It makes no sense whatsoever at all. I'm still yet to find where it makes sense. But it's just stuff like that. Like you might have clinical or lab on Monday, class on Tuesday and Thursday. um and another lab or clinical on Wednesday. So then you've only got like Friday, Saturday, Sunday to study, but you might have something else going on. You might have something else going on, like literally anything, whether it be a family issue or you have somewhere to be at this certain time, like appointments wise and stuff like that is so rigorous because you're trying to juggle so many things at once. Because I always looked at it like I have my life. and then I had my nursing school life. So I'm living two lives right now and I'm just trying to just figure it out step by step. Everything's gonna feel chaotic and there's gonna be so many ups and downs. They'll pull through. You know, if you're a brand new nursing student, you will pull through. Just, you know, have faith, break it down, don't overwhelm yourself. That was my biggest thing, cause it's gonna be. rough and you're gonna doubt yourself and all of this stuff but you know surround yourself with people that love and care about you and that's gonna support you because friends, family, that's why I'm so grateful my boyfriend he's in nursing school too he just graduated too he understood that process and stuff and he studied differently for me but then he understood like everybody studies different you know so just kind of find your people find where you can That's somebody that's gonna, when you're falling over and stuff like that, you're gonna pick you back up. uh My last word is just rewarding that. That's the whole nursing profession. It's just very rewarding. um If you don't feel like you, it's been rewarding, please try to find a different perspective on it. That's my biggest thing. Like I had a patient the other day, she had fail. busted her whole face open. felt so awful for her. It hurt my face just looking at her. And when I took her out to be discharged, she was like, you are so sweet. Thank you so much for taking such good care of me. I'm so glad you were here today. And that just broke me. was like, I'm so glad I was here to take care of you. You know, like you are absolute sweetheart. Thank you so much. It's just those little saying, and yes, you're going to have patients that are like. well why are you heaving in here? you know, those mean patients and just they're grumpy old men or grumpy old women or just grumpy people in general. Yes, yes. And you might feel like, cause some shifts you might have four patients or eight patients or two patients or whatever four you're on and they might all be grumpy. And you're gonna probably leave that shift and be like, I didn't do nothing today. I just made everybody mad. What was the point of that? But it's those little things. I might have 10 patients in a row that are grumpy, but that 11th patient might just be so appreciative of me, it makes it all worth it. That's my thing. It's just very rewarding. Because again, you're gonna have... the not appreciative patients and you're going to have the very appreciative patients and you shouldn't hold one above the other because they're both humans. uh Everybody has feelings and everybody's allowed to voice them and that's okay. But in our mind as humans we're always going to hold the one that is like thank you so much a little bit higher than the one is like why are you here? That's human nature. You know you're gonna hold somebody higher, you're gonna like them better if they like you. um But at the same time, just, they're still your patients. Whether you feel like you haven't done anything today, you help them. Whether they feel like it or not, whether you feel like it or not, say you hung a bag of antibiotics, you still helped them. That's still so rewarding, you help them. one day closer to getting out of the hospital, you helped them over something. And even if it's just not even your patient, family members wise, like we've got a kudos wall is what we've started of people that have, you know, sent in stuff like email like, hey, this person did this well. I appreciate them so much, that kind of stuff. And then we also have a wall um separate to that that has where People have sent us um letters and stuff like that and cards and stuff. And I love reading those all the time, like as I walk by them, because most of them are family members. I was reading one yesterday and it was a family member that um the patient had ended up passing away, but the family member had still wrote us a letter about how great we were to them and how they knew that we had done everything we could. I wasn't even in that situation. I didn't even know the patient. I didn't even know the people, but it felt so rewarding to me knowing that I could still be helping a patient's family member even if I couldn't help the patient the way I wanted to. Because you know, want to save everybody, but the Lord has other plans. The Lord's like, no, they're coming with me. So like you can do everything you can, but the Lord's like, no, they're coming with me. It's time to come home. So um I just feel like it's so rewarding and I love that stuff because again, Some days are a lot better than others, but it's just, just go back to break it down to the simplest way possible what you are doing. Nursing. You are helping anybody and everybody that you absolutely can to the best of your abilities. um You are saving people, whether you feel like it or not. Again, whether it's just hanging a bag of antibiotics, you're saving them from a deadly infection at this point, you know? So it's just stuff like that. whether it's all the way down to a blood sugar check, you can still be saving their life because if you didn't check that blood sugar, they could be going into VKA or something like that, or they could have a blood sugar of 10. So it's stuff like that and that even goes down to like, again, blood sugar checks. That goes down to like CNAs and PCTs. Like they are too. And a lot of people, hate people saying that like, oh, they're that. I'm not, no, they help us more than anything. Like they are, they are amazing and I absolutely love them. And we always have two in the ER and they, I love them. Sometimes if I have questions, I go to them before I can find a nurse. Cause I'm like, I need help. Where is this at? Can you come help me? Can you do this for me by any chance? And they're like, yeah, absolutely. And stuff and they are, they're just amazing. And it's, just a big teamwork. Just anybody and everybody watching this, whether they're a nursing student or like you, been a nurse for 27 years, 27 years, just always go back to it being rewarding, because it's so easy to get burnt out, rewarding, rewarding, rewarding. Yes, and look for those rewards. And like you said, like that's what I wanted to say was the team effort, right? Like you are working together as a team to better somebody's life and there's nothing more rewarding than that. Kaylyn, I don't know what happened. Somebody was they fell asleep. They fell asleep. I don't know why, but they missed everything you had to say. And they're just tuning in now. And you have one piece of advice. to give the listener. What is the one thing you want someone to walk away from your episode with? Don't give up. Don't ever give up. If you have your heart set on nursing, try again, try again, try again, try again, try again, try again until something you're like, maybe this isn't for me, but even if you do say that one time, pray on it, think about it, talk about it with somebody else, and see if your heart's actually set on it. Make sure you go into whatever it is with your heart set on it because one of the biggest things, if you love your job, it's not going to work, it's going home. Mm-hmm. Mm. I just take that with me everywhere. Like I absolutely love my job. I love being the ER again. More days are bad than others, but it's okay. It's very rewarding and I love the people I work with. I love my job. I love what I do. It's like going to a second home. Mmm, Katelyn, I love it. I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you so much for giving your time this afternoon to just drop the wisdom. Yeah, do you mind if I say two verses? I have two verses saved that... These two helped me throughout nursing school, always. It's just two little verses, but they carry a big impact on me. And hopefully they'll carry a big impact on somebody else. So give me a second if I can just sign them real quick. So the first one I have is Romans 8, 28. So let me make sure I'm there. Alright, so in my Bible right here, it kind of breaks it down because it's more of a study Bible because I love that more. um So this section in Romans 8, the title of it is More Than Conquerors. So 828 says, and we know that all things work together for the good to them that love God. For those who are called according to His purpose. Remember, if you are called to something, whether it is nursing or not, it is for His purpose. It is your plan that He has for you. Go with it. whether it works out only for a few months or years, it's his plan. It's his plan. That's the biggest thing that I think I could give anybody that whether it's good or bad, it's his plan and something's gonna work out in the end. And then the second one I have is, this is like absolutely the biggest one, know, along with those songs, I was like, let me just read it and it just brings me peace. So it is Second Samuel, 22-2. which I absolutely love it because I went through nursing school twice. So I love all the twos. Yes, so 2 Samuel 22 says, and he said, the Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer. He is your person. If you have any anxiety, any doubt, anything turned to the Lord, and he will provide for you. It might not be just then, it might not be in a few months, but it'll be eventually. Katelyn, thank you. You're the first honored guest to close an episode with two verses and two verses. Second Samuel 22-2, two times through nursing school, two's your number. We're done. All right, Katelyn, I can't thank you enough. Thank you so, so much, my new friend. Absolutely. Thank you for having me on.