Trump Vs. Obama 2028, Lotteries, and Atlantic City | Ep. 41

Norman Chad explores the constitutional implications of Trump's third-term ambitions and the compelling hypothetical scenario of a Trump versus Obama election in 2028. The episode unpacks political hypocrisy, fake news tactics, and the importance of aligning public statements with personal actions.

Chapters

• 0:00 Trump vs. Obama 2028
• 2:56 Gambling Hypocrisy in South Carolina
• 6:45 Trump's Third Term Ambitions
• 9:48 Trump Administration's Fake News
• 13:09 Atlantic City: Point/Counterpoint
• 16:13 Urinal Business and Poker Table Talk
• 20:40 AOC's First-Class Contradiction

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

If Trump?

Speaker 1: 0:01

If Trump is somehow able to seek a third term, guess what?

Speaker 1: 0:08

Barack Obama can seek a third term. Oh my goodness, oh my goodness, oh my goodness, oh my goodness, oh my goodness. Trump versus Obama in 2028? Bring it on, norman Chad, norman Chad. Welcome to Gambling Mad with Norman Chad. I am Norman Chad. Coming up on the program today is Atlantic City back, baby. Maybe Will Donald Trump be in for a surprise in 2028? Maybe. And can one rat close 2,000 Japanese restaurants? Maybe?

Speaker 1: 0:56

Gambling Mad, as always, brought to you by Fritos Picked fresh off of Central California trees every morning, delivered directly to your local retailer every afternoon, and by the refreshing taste of Fresca Fresca and Fritos. It's a meal. Anyone around me for more than 15 minutes and trust me, that is a tall task has heard me rail against state-run lotteries. There are at least 37 reasons I abhor the lottery, but let's just mention one. If you or I run a numbers game in the neighborhood, given pretty good odds to our neighbors, we would be arrested. It is illegal. But what is legal? The government running its own numbers game and giving terrible odds to the customers? So that's that.

Speaker 1: 1:53

Let's now go down to South Carolina. There's a bill in the state legislature to allow a casino resort in Santee. Christian colleges in South Carolina, like Bob Jones University, oppose the casino, citing the sin of gambling. Yet those same schools have no problems receiving millions of tax dollars generated by the state lottery which, the last time I looked, is gambling. Let's hear from the religious-based colleges first on this issue. Dr Tony Brown of the South Carolina Baptist Convention wrote, quote gambling is addictive. Clinical research has revealed sound evidence that gambling activates the brain's reward system in much the same way a drug does. Virtue never rises from vice. The addiction, corruption, crime and human suffering that will accompany casinos far outweigh any supposed financial benefit. End quote. I got to say those are some pretty reasonable arguments. Let's now hear from Will Folks, founder of Fitz News, an online media organization covering South Carolina politics. He concedes why the Christian schools support the lottery, but he wrote this quote I am not blaming these institutions for availing themselves of a revenue stream which was created by the state for the express purpose of subsidizing higher education.

Speaker 1: 3:24

I am, however, calling them hypocrites for quoting scripture in opposition of private sector gambling. At the same time, they are fattening their pockets with money from state-sponsored gambling. End quote. Touche, sir, game set and match to the secular side over the sacred side. Let that be a lesson. Okay, if you're going to drink from the holy water and then shoot craps in the alley while brown bagging some Jack Daniels, we will call you out, by the way. Can somebody explain to me? By the way, can somebody explain to me? Can anybody ever tell me how church bingo is always the biggest bingo game in town? Bingo, donald Trump first said it as a joke, then he said it half jokingly, then he said it half seriously, then three quarters seriously, and then he told NBC News the other day that there are quote unquote methods to allow a president to serve a third term, despite the 22nd amendment of the constitution prohibiting it.

Speaker 1: 4:39

I have lost track of things Trump has done in both of his terms that are improper, inappropriate, illegal or unconstitutional. Donald Trump's entire adult life has been a lawless romp of impropriety. So I have little doubt that if he decides he wants to run for president again in 2028, he will. He will. Yes, it is insidious and it is insane. But then I realized if Trump, if Trump is somehow able to seek a third term, guess what? Barack Obama can seek a third term. Oh my goodness, oh my goodness, oh, my goodness, oh, my goodness, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1: 5:25

Trump versus Obama in 2028. Bring it on, bring it on. In the sports world they call it sometimes. We have the game of the century, the match of the century, the fight of the century. This would be the election of the century or the centuries. This would be the election to end all elections. This would blow away John Adams versus Thomas Jefferson in 1796. That's kid stuff. This would make a hypothetical JD Vance versus Gavin Newsom battle looked like a student government election at DeVry University.

Speaker 1: 6:16

Trump versus Obama. Obama's got two big edges body and mind. He's 15 years younger than Trump and he actually thinks. But Trump's still got one huge edge he's white. He's white man. Okay, oh sure, obama beat white guys back to back John McCain and Mitt Romney, but neither one is Trump. The 49.8% president is going to be tough to beat and he's a cinch to win if he can kind of prove that Obama really was born in Kenya. And to be truthful and I can't believe I'm saying this out loud I've always detected an East African accent.

Speaker 1: 7:01

By the way, 22nd Amendment aside, there is currently worldwide precedent for Trump's attempt to leapfrog term limits. It's done all the time. Some of his favorite authoritarian autocrats have done just this In China, xi Jinping, now in his 12th year in power. In Russia, vladimir Putin, now in his 12th year in power. In Russia, vladimir Putin, now in his 25th year in power. And in Belarus, alexander Lukashenko, now in his 31st year. On a somewhat unrelated note, david Overton opened the first cheesecake factory in Beverly Hills in 1978, and he's been running that chain now for 47 years. He is a dining despot. I called him out.

Speaker 1: 7:52

President Trump, trumpers and maggots all love to talk about the media wallowing in fake news. This is part of the Trump playbook page four, I believe in which you always accuse the opposition of doing exactly what you are doing. Case in point Maryland migrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia, incorrectly and mistakenly deported by the Trump administration. Vice President JD Vance called Garcia a convicted gang member. White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt called Garcia a ringleader of the MS-13 gang and says he engages in human trafficking, and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, also known as White House Deputy of Near Humans, said Garcia was a member of a designated foreign terrorist organization. Those are some pretty powerful words against this fella Convicted gang member, gang ringleader, engaged in human trafficking, member of a foreign terrorist organization. Let me ask this can you show me any paperwork, any at all, just an actual criminal conviction of some type? Or maybe fellow gang members calling him out, or, at a minimum, somebody who once saw him drop a bubble gum wrapper onto a sidewalk? I mean, if this Garcia dude has littered, I'd give him the heave-ho. Until then, can he just go home to his wife and kids?

Speaker 1: 9:39

Demonstrators gathered in dozens of cities across America last weekend to show resistance against many of President Trump's policies. Many Republicans contended that large numbers of these protesters were paid to show up, with thousands of them bused into rallies from out of town. Let's take a closer look at this assertion over at our national map. Let's take a closer look at the situation of both protesters allegedly being bussed in for those demonstrations against Trump last week. Now I read on X. Many Republican operatives pointed out that protesters were being bussed in from New York City down to Washington DC. I read some other Republican operatives report beyond a shadow of a doubt that protesters were being bused into New York City from Washington DC, into New York City from Washington DC.

Speaker 1: 10:43

Okay, okay, Even if you're paying these people to protest, you would keep them in the same city, wouldn't you? What are you trying to give Greyhound and Trailways business? It costs money to go back and forth. You got a thousand people here. You got a thousand people here. You're not going to switch them around. What the heck was that?

Speaker 1: 11:04

Meanwhile, if I can report Phoenix, arizona this weekend, oh my goodness, 111 degrees, it will be at midnight on Sunday. I'd like to coo with my baby tonight, but it's too darn hot. It's going to be too darn hot. Just take the covers off, take everything off In the buff, don't touch anybody. Traffic and weather on the fives all weekend. Now back to the desk. Time for Trump. Tittle, tattle, all the latest news on the man with a plan. Cue the music. We might want to add some drums.

Speaker 1: 11:53

President Trump welcomed the Los Angeles Dodgers to the White House to celebrate their 2024 World Series title. The president praised Mookie Betts, claiming he watched Mookie when he played with the Boston Red Sox and said I didn't think that was a particularly good trade when they made it, and I happened to be right For what it's worth and I know I'm not supposed to insert personal opinion or editorialize in a news report I don't believe the president could pick Mookie Betts out of a police lineup of two if the other person were Dolly Parton. President Trump also called out Shohi Ohtani, saying that quote he's got a good future, end quote. Ohtani has three most valuable player awards. He's the first player in Major League history with a 50 home run, 50 stolen base season and he has a $700 million contract. Ohtani is Japanese-born, so he's fortunate to survive the White House visit without being deported or being used as tariff bait.

Speaker 1: 13:09

Let's talk Atlantic City, america's former playground. My early days were in Atlantic City. I lived back east. My early days were in Atlantic City. I live back east. Then I went to Las Vegas for the first time and that ended my Atlantic City days. It is the armpit of American gambling. People who work there are in a bad mood. People who play there are in a bad mood. People who just think about Atlantic City are in a bad mood. However, I am always open to fresh perspective, so today I'm gambling mad.

Speaker 1: 13:46

We're going to do an old-fashioned point counterpoint. We're going to do a point counterpoint with Mark Gianonio, who runs Resorts Casino. He's president of Resorts Casino I'm not going to get comp there and he's president of the Casino Association of New Jersey. He is not here with me today due to a conflict in schedule, but he was recently interviewed by Casinoorg's Devin O'Connor. So we're going to present Gian Antonio's arguments in favor of Atlantic City and then I will respond in this revival of point-counterpoint, here we go. So, with tariffs taking money out of consumers' pockets, gian Antonio says a lot of people will consider Atlantic City because it is close as a destination no. Gian Antonio says he expects a true renaissance for Atlantic City this year. No. Giannantonio says Atlantic City restaurants provide a great, significantly high experience for the prices they charge. No. He says Atlantic City is perceived as a value. He touts the abundance of non-gaming entertainment in Atlantic City no. And he says Atlantic City remains a premier destination for leisure travelers and business events. No, for leisure travelers and business events no. And that concludes this revival edition of Point Counterpoint. That was fun. I mean. I think he did a bang-up job presenting his points. You know, I just happened to out-argue him.

Speaker 1: 16:02

In Japan, fast food chain Tsukiya shut down its nearly 2,000 locations for five days after a rat was found in a soup dish. Waiter. There's a hair in my soup? No, it's a rat. There's a hair in my soup? No, it's a rat. According to USA Today, a rat reportedly was spotted in a bowl of miso soup in January, but the company did not confirm the instance until a statement this month using the words foreign object contamination. You know we now call janitors custodial guardians, so calling rodents foreign object contamination does not seem like much of a stretch to me. Suquia, known for its beef and rice bowls, also confirmed a pest was found inside another meal in March at a different location. Of course, suquia finally did the right thing by shuttering its stores to investigate the whole situation and prevent further infestation. But it's possible they're actually overreacting. I mean, maybe, just maybe, both of those customers ordered a rat with their meal.

Speaker 1: 17:17

I play a lot of poker. When you play poker you really interrupt the rest of your life, professionally and personally, but we all enjoy it, and at a poker table over the course of the year we end up talking about almost everything. I will say this at my regular game at Hollywood Park Casino in Inglewood, california, I always attempt to ban discussion on three topics golf, crypto and air fryers. I am not always successful. What can I do? But anyway, the other day at Hollywood Park, one of my longtime poker colleagues, alan Eisenbach, returned from the restroom with the following thought If your family business was to make urinals or toilets, would you put your family name on every urinal or toilet?

Speaker 1: 18:17

I found that interesting and indeed the fact of the matter is, every time I use urinal number two at Hollywood Park that's my favorite urinal I stare down at the name Hilliard. As it turns out, hilliard, founded in 1907 by Nestor S Hilliard, makes urinal products, not urinals, and I'm staring at a Hilliard urinal screen on each visit to the WC. Also, per my buddy Alan's point, there are Kohler Toilets, founded by John Michael Kohler in 1873, and Sloan Toilets, founded by William Elvis Sloan in 1906. So naturally, we ended up discussing the whole family name toilet urinal business in detail and we came to a couple of conclusions. One, if any of us started a urinal or toilet company, we likely would keep the family name out of it and go with something like American Standard, which is out there, or Glacier Bay, another popular toilet company company. Two, however, if we did go with the family name, we fully embrace it and our ad slogan might be every time you piss on our name, we run to the bank, or when you piss on us, we're pleased as punch.

Speaker 1: 19:47

There's a lot of dead time between hands and when you're not in a hand at the casino, so we end up saying a lot of stupid stuff. Anyway, if you want to improve the quality of our idle chat, please come to Hollywood Park. We play the Omaha 8, stud 8, 2040 half kill game Sundays, mondays, tuesdays and Thursdays, starting in late morning, and when I'm in town I play at least twice a week. So come join the game and the conversation. But I implore you no golf, no crypto, no air fryers. Before we wrap up, I'm gonna say this one time, and one time only you can be a socialist by day and a socialite by night, but you cannot be a socialist by day and a capitalist by night. I like AOC.

Speaker 1: 20:44

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is smart and charismatic and she often speaks truth to power. But recently, when the Democratic congresswoman went from New York to Las Vegas to join Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders for his fight oligarchy rally, she flew first class on JetBlue. Bad idea, bad optics, bad upshot. If you talk the talk, you've got to walk the walk, which means walking past first class into coach like the rest of us. Hoi polloi, aoc, you cannot scream about financial inequality and then stroll into financial elegance. You're either Marx or Musk. You're either working class or upper class. Jetblue is fine. The Jet Set is not. By the way, you know, first class is not even worth it anymore. Maybe I'll talk about this in more detail another time. I mean, you're lucky to get chicken or fish if there even is any meal service and then there's that one hot towel. That'll do it for another edition of Gambling Mad with Norm and Chad. Hope to see you again next time and remember, if you're going to roll the dice, make sure they are loaded.

Speaker 1: 22:07

I love doing this podcast each and every week, but if a podcast falls in the forest and there's nobody there to hear it, does it make a sound? Frankly, I feel like I'm playing a concert in the desert on an out-of-tune piano. Where are the viewers and listeners? I know I make you laugh, blue, and I make you think, and I make you breakfast and supper too. Tell the people. Tell the people if you can find them.

Speaker 1: 22:36

The media is piling on Michelle Obama because she started a podcast last month with her brother and it's only getting about a quarter million views every week. On YouTube, 250,000 views. You know what my numbers are. I could walk into Chick-fil-A at lunchtime and get a bigger audience for my podcast there than here. So I'm going to make a simple, calm plea to the world at large and to America in particular. I ain't going topless and I ain't going obscene and I ain't going rogue, but if I cannot find 1,000 earthly souls among the 8 billion people wandering this soon-to-cease planet to listen to me every week by Thanksgiving, I will go gambling mad.

Speaker 2: 23:29

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