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You Have 3 Years Left to Get Rich (Most Will Miss This) ft. Profitableplaymaker | Ep. 54 | Unphazed

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In this episode we sit down with LJ – The Profitable Playmaker to talk about the opportunity window happening right now with AI, business, and wealth creation.

The reality? You might only have the next 3 years to position yourself before the gap between people who build with AI and people who don’t becomes massive.

We dive into:
• Why AI is the biggest opportunity of our generation
• The mindset needed to build a real business today
• My honest struggle with my relationship with money
• Why most people stay broke even when opportunities are everywhere
• How discipline and execution can change your entire life

This conversation is about ownership, growth, and getting unphazed by the excuses that hold people back.

If you’re serious about building wealth, using AI, and leveling up your mindset, this episode is for you.

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I'm my face, I'm my face, death, on my face, I'm on face, dead, on my face, I'm on face death, fitness deck this paper on my face, I'm my face death, fitness deck this, paper my face.

SPEAKER_05

Introduction. Go ahead. No way. Go ahead. I'm gonna give an introduction. I actually gotta start over because I just hit record on here. Damn, that's right. But it's alright. It's alright, because that's still, it sounds good. It sounds good. So I can still bat that up right there. There's some good content, but we're still gonna have that content.

SPEAKER_04

I kind of want an IRL. IRL? Like if in real life how like people know me to be funny or just to say whatever. I feel like people told me this. If I had a camera following me and I and I did, maybe when I'm in the car listening to music, or I've been famous already. It's like the Truman.

SPEAKER_05

Have you seen the Truman show? Nah, what the hell is that? You never seen the Truman Show? Is it an old show? The Truman Show. It's no, it's Jim Carrey, it's a movie. It's supposed to old movie. It's an older movie. Let me see. When did the We weren't born yet, probably? 1998. 1998. That was one. So The Truman Show. It's based on a movie. It's kind of like The Matrix, kind of like so. Basically, Jim Carrey, he's living a life, and this life is actually, he's in like a bubble, and all the people around him are actors. But he's grew up like this from a baby, and he was raised in just like this simulation. And everybody around him is like his dad is not real, his mom is not real. They're all actors, but the whole world, it's a TV show for the real world. So it's like we would be watching him. Like, it's kind of like we watch Kasanat, we watch them, but he doesn't know a camera's on him.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And he's just living his life. So it's literally IRL. IRL in the world. Literally IRL movie. But I think that that's doing that, that's the crazy thing, is like you just have to put the camera up. Like a lot of people, the problem is you don't ever put the camera up.

SPEAKER_04

If you just battle between that though.

SPEAKER_05

What?

SPEAKER_04

Gary Vee says, just fucking record. Just record, record, record. But that's but that's part of that is true. I'm on both sides of the story because you in a way you kind of sometimes want to niche and you kind of want to know what you want to record. I think you have to before you're recording.

SPEAKER_05

You have to have you and look, you have to now. I I don't agree with that. I agree, just record. But if you're just recording a bunch of bullshit, you will get a bunch of bullshit views. Like you won't get the views nowadays. Because it's so competitive. There's so everybody's wanting your attention.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Attention. Like I said before, attention is the new currency.

SPEAKER_05

Attention is the new currency.

SPEAKER_04

Because if you have a product to sell, for instance, this cup or the shirt or anything like that, um, you got views on that, then you got money, you got currency. Because people probably spend money with you if they believe that.

SPEAKER_05

That's why all these big brands they go into these influencers and they oh brand deals, getting the brand deals, connecting things with that.

SPEAKER_04

What is your brand? That's why I'm rebranding my whole self, my whole life.

SPEAKER_05

Like, what'd you be rebranding to?

SPEAKER_04

Bro.

SPEAKER_05

What do you what was it before, and what is it the rebrand?

SPEAKER_04

It was the athlete, just the athlete lifestyle. Uh we no longer play sports, right? This is a sports podcast and multi-entertainment podcast as well. So therefore, like LJ always did more than just play ball.

SPEAKER_05

Always.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I'm saying? And this is something different too that we added to our buck to our repertoire, to our toolbox as well.

SPEAKER_05

It did. And this is your first time in a in a stew.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you know what I'm saying. This is nice.

SPEAKER_05

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04

This is nice for sure.

SPEAKER_05

You know what I mean? So it's all I'll give a little introduction. It's always good to have the person that I started this thing with. Yeah, yeah. He he he won, he blessed us with his presence. His presence is always a present here. A lot of good memories, and it's good to have the profitable playmaker. I don't even know. So is the rebrand getting rid of the profitable playmaker? Should I still call you that?

SPEAKER_04

No, for sure. It's just more of that. That that's like the community.

SPEAKER_05

That's the community.

SPEAKER_04

The profitable playmakers. You know, people that support me. Like if you want to be, you know, successful and profitable in business and entrepreneurship, things like that, which we all, you know, are trying to do in a way, um, that's the community. So you can't, I'm still the players.

SPEAKER_05

So to say there's still the still the profitable playmaker. I would say this is someone that um when I when I moved to Dallas, you know, like I'm from Chicago. I w I went to school in New York, I went to school in Indiana. It was like everywhere I went, it's like you don't never, it's hard to find people I would say that are on the same wavelength, are on the same mentality of like not only trying to get to the NFL at that time, but also just like trying to be successful in all aspects of life, trying to make as much money so we can take care of our family and our people and trying to level up.

SPEAKER_04

And it ain't even about the money no more. It's not and I ooh, I see this is growth. It's about, and I think about this now, now that I don't have a car, and I like sometimes gotta do things to make you sit down. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06

Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Like sometimes something will happen to where you just have to be silent and sit in that moment so we can talk to you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And with that, with me saying that, bro, um, damn, I forgot my train of thought.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, come on, that's the profitable playmaker, man. He done playing sports now. Yeah, he done playing sports. Like, yeah, I ain't gonna lie. You gotta cut this up. Don't even bring it back. Don't even bring it back. It's live. Cause I didn't even finish my introduction. Go ahead, let's get back. You cut my introduction off.

SPEAKER_04

So we started this see this is magic though, could we just get going something?

SPEAKER_05

It's magic. It's magic. That's how it happens. But someone that I say, like, um when I moved to Dallas as one of the real guys, him, Charles, a couple other guys that I met down here, and I was like, man, okay, I can really connect with these guys. I can bring these guys to my circle. Because I do feel like I'm a like I'm a solo guy.

SPEAKER_04

You are, and I don't like that.

SPEAKER_05

You know what I mean? I'm not a very I'm not a social butterfly, but when I get around you, I'm around you, and I'm I give you the energy. But it's like I don't know. I I I think if you go further with somebody, what you mean? You can get it.

SPEAKER_04

A lot of the homies that I'm cool with now, we all like, we all grind up for something, but we never do shit together.

SPEAKER_05

That's the problem. And I think that's a problem with the black community. A lot of people. A lot of people especially the black, especially the black community.

SPEAKER_04

Because I watch people like Special Coze in Miami, and it's people that's doing stuff successfully. Yeah. The people that's here.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

No excuse. Asians. Most of these motherfuckers are white.

SPEAKER_05

Asians don't play either.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Indians don't play. But I'm thinking is we don't we don't collab on stuff, bro.

SPEAKER_05

Because everybody wanna get it and just be that one.

SPEAKER_04

Here at the bottom, and this is the kind of bottom I'm gonna I wanna leave Dallas, and and it's competition, but where it's really happening, things are happening is the is collaboration. And why not collab on the things? Why not, hey bro, I got this idea. Like, why I long for this right now, bro, and I'm not getting it. Yeah, LJ, what you doing right now, bro? You wanna uh da da da da da da da? You know how we used them phone calls? Like we talked that one time for like an hour about the financial space and life insurance and investment, things like that. We that was a good conversation, bro. But like we don't and I mean that, I'm dead serious. I wish people like me, you, Charles, or if we look so like minded, why aren't we doing things together? It don't make no sense to me.

SPEAKER_05

I think one thing and it that doesn't make sense, right? And I think I would love to do that. I think we I think it's hard, like say say if we were successful and we all had our businesses and whatever it is, it's easier to clap then.

SPEAKER_04

No, I think it's harder than because we all got our own things.

SPEAKER_05

No, I think it's easier then because it's like, okay, we have something, like I think we are still trying to get that like first, we're still trying to get that first breath. Like we still have no foundation or anything. And I think it is easy to build something with people, but I just don't think none of us have the direction of like, okay, what is this thing? We're all just trying a bunch of stuff now. And I think that's better because it's like, okay, you doing options, okay, I'm doing insurance, or you're doing whatever it is. We're like, okay, does this really vehicle really work? And then if this vehicle really works, it's worked a little bit, but it's not worked to the point where it's like, okay, I'm about to run a million dollars up right here, right now.

SPEAKER_04

But that's the part that we're missing because we don't collab enough. We don't sit down and go coffee shop, like I see guys going to coffee shops and talking and delegating and communicating. It's a bar, right? About about about okay, what can be how can we scale this? You think people have people like School of Hard Knocks?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Them guys, okay, you got one guy that's very good at talking, you got the one guy that's in the back of the scene, you got one guy holding a camera. We gotta find that thing, and we probably already doing it to where it's like, hey bro, I got this idea and I want you to be a part of it. Or maybe or maybe not. It just it just comes together, but I know that when it's even in the Bible, when two or three are gathered in the midst of its presence in the church. It's church. You know what I'm saying? But I'm saying is we don't come together enough to make magic. And I want magic.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I want magic.

SPEAKER_05

But can so let's let me tell you this. Let me tell you my plan then. Like a plan.

SPEAKER_04

So you want them to know your plan?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I I'll be I'd be broad, you know what I mean? And I wanna like I think it is something that's like I feel like a lot of people gatekeep. You know what I mean? There's no gatekeeping on the unfaced pilot.

SPEAKER_04

My plan out there because it puts pressure on me. It put it puts pressure on me.

SPEAKER_05

I think one of the things, and this one thing I want to talk about, like I just got a job, you know what I mean? Like I just I was applying, I was looking for things, and I found a job because I the conversation we're having in the car is like I feel like as entrepreneurs, I think a lot, everybody wants to be an entrepreneur now. And every it's cool to be an entrepreneur, but I think people mess up, and it's not us specifically, but I even see some of my guys do it. It's like, okay, I'm gonna start this business, I'm gonna train and do this, and you're just doing enough to get by, or you're getting a little bit of success and you're doing this and you're just living this life. Yeah, I don't have to have a nine to five, but you're not taking it to that next, you're not scaling it. So you don't have a business if you're you're not scaling it.

SPEAKER_04

You don't have a business.

SPEAKER_05

And now at this point, you're working harder, but you're but you're you're working harder, but you're not making money.

SPEAKER_04

It has I think Alex Hermosy said that in a couple of his past videos. He was like, You don't have a business, you just you're working for yourself. Until you have a business that cash flows without you, that's when you have a business in there. Until then, you're a slave to that business. Yes. That's a ball. There's some good content. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05

So I so I think that's the problem. So I think what what I realized for myself and like just being in the life insurance industry, I've I knew it was just in my heart, I was like, okay, this is not for me.

SPEAKER_04

Why don't you think we have success with that? We have we we we have had success on our own levels. Why don't you think neither one of us has had success with that, like ultra success with that? Like you may see people around. Yes, like other people with knowing the things that we know and how we are as people.

SPEAKER_05

I could tell you exactly why for me, I don't know exactly for you, but in my heart, in my spirit, right, there's something happens when I feel something is not and it could be righteous for them, but I feel it feels something's off for me, that messes me up. Like, and if I'm selling a product and at certain point the way that you want me to do this does not seem right, or it doesn't seem like you're doing the best business, or you don't seem and I'm it messes me up, and that's what happened with insurance. Like the first company I was with with life insurance, okay, it was good, but it was like okay, I have to sell to friends and family and all this. I'm like, okay, that's cool, and all but like I don't really want to do that. Like, I like my business, I didn't want to create a business through my family. It's like now I'm depending on my family, having to talk to my family when it's like, no, I'm I'm trying to just do something else. So I didn't like that aspect, just doing that. And I'm like, people succeed with that, people don't succeed with that, whatever. I'm like, that's not even the biggest thing. I had an experience with one guy where I was like, I was getting my guy, he was my mentor, and he was getting I was getting my best friend insurance, and he wrote him a bad policy. And I'm like, I'm looking at the policy, I'm like, bro, this is not even a good policy. Like, why would you write this? So we had to go delete the policy, do this. And I'm like, man, you're my mentor. You wrote him a bad policy, and it's like, nah, this is bad business. So I'm like, I don't even like this and put a bad thing in my stomach, and I'm like, I can't even do this.

SPEAKER_04

You were just out here selling just to sell because that's what you were supposed to do.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly. And then the next company I was with, um, with um, the next company I was with, I was selling the you they buy the leads and everything. I was like, okay, I don't really like that. It's kind of like why I'm buying the leads. Now it's like I'm looking at my budget, I'm like, dang, I'm spending$2,000 on leads a month, hoping I can make 10,000. You know what I mean? And just like I'm gambling. I didn't like that aspect, but I also seen the people that were succeeding doing things where I was like, ah, that's not right. Or the way you're saying it, the way you're framing this thing, you're talking to this old lady and you're framing it a different way just to get the sale. And I was like, I didn't like that. And that was not the whole reason why, but I was like, those small things, I was like, I don't want to be in this industry. You know what I mean? It's like, and I think it's a good industry to go in and make money, but I think overall, I'm like, the vehicle matters.

SPEAKER_04

The vehicle is not a good thing.

SPEAKER_05

Now, if the vehicle is tweaking, if the vehicle is, you know, I mean, you your tire, one of the tires messed up, the engine's not working as good, you ain't gonna go where you need to go as fast as you're trying to get there. You're not gonna get there fast enough.

SPEAKER_04

The vehicle matters, the vehicle matters, and that's why um I think for me, and that makes sense. I've tried both of them. I even worked with you for a little bit with that company. I think what I the difference between me and Globe Life and then your company, we're just selling a sale. I don't feel like I had any passion, passion or purpose, and I I'm a man that wants purpose in life.

SPEAKER_05

That's it.

SPEAKER_04

And I don't care if I don't give a fuck if I hit for the lottery for a million dollars. I will still go crazy if I ain't have nothing to do to help somebody with like I want to help, I want to be the best, I want to be something great in life. I want to I want to help mentor a lot of men and and help athletes that didn't know what the hell they wanted to do after college and they held a gun to their head because they didn't know what else they want to do, and and they're depressed and this like I want purpose, you know.

SPEAKER_05

And life insurance definitely does help. It gets you not in the way that way we're trying to do, and it's not selling, it's not even the right market, not necessarily. You know what I mean? The people we're talking to that are really getting, it's like the market's not even there a lot of times, and it makes it a lot tougher, you know what I mean? So some people could get in there and grind it out, and I think some people are mentally built for that, and they were supposed to be a life insurance agent.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like, yeah, just because it worked out for them don't mean it has to work out for me. Exactly. And I battle with that, like, damn, am I quit too soon? Am I stopping too soon? Like, like they didn't start, they're successful, so what excuse would I got? Well, no, the product matters, the person in the that's that's selling the product matters, but then also the person who's selling their product to matters, right? And um the soon as we find that product that fits us best, we gonna flow.

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

And while we're young, we have to try a lot of different things.

SPEAKER_05

And I think the the thing about it as well, it was like it was that thing of starting from zero and we were working so hard. So like I'm working from eight and seven in the morning, eight in the morning, all the way to nine, ten thirty at night some nights, trying to get one sale. I didn't get no sale. That was that was just that took a lot out of me.

SPEAKER_04

It takes a lot out of you, especially when you might have an appointment. Well, it took a lot out of me if we might have an appointment with somebody and they sell you so good thinking they're gonna get an appointment. And then they don't show up, or they just or they get there and they just uh something else should be.

SPEAKER_05

Right? But and that's the game likelihood. And then that shouldn't discourage people because that that happens. But I'm like, okay, I just got a job where I have a base salary, so I'm already, if I sell you or not, I'm getting paid, but then I also still get to work on the sales skills that I have, that I get to do. I'm in an environment where it's like, okay, a positive environment. I'm around people, I'm in the office, I could do a little hybrid. So I'm like, I think that is just a good opportunity for me to build some security for myself where it's like I can make$10,000, and then this next month I don't make nothing. Oh, it's like back and forth. I'm not guessing all the time. I have some sort of stability.

SPEAKER_04

You need stability, bro. You gotta have and it and even if it's not stability, well, yes, you gotta have stability. Um, that's why it's good to have multiple strengths of income. Some passive, some not. Some you have to work hard for, earned income. And then like in sales, because we're we're sales guys.

SPEAKER_05

We're sales guys, we're people, not people, people, people.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we understand though as well um that we kind of escape that matrix of just working on a five and nothing wrong with that either. There's nothing wrong with that. You have a plan. Don't just work that just to work it and die. Die. Work it to build something else. Like use that, you know, nine or five for your you know your life as leverage. As leverage, and then that five to nine, you know, to build something special, that build the empire.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, use it, use it as leverage. Like, and I think that was the biggest thing we're talking about, too, is like my I was making money, but I think my money, my relationship with money became like unstable because it was like, okay, 10,000, uh 3,000, okay, 5,000. Okay, if I work really hard and I work 12 hours a day and I work, okay, I'm making 10, 10, 10, and I'm stacking up, but I'm like people think the entrepreneurship shit is easy.

SPEAKER_04

It's not. You it ain't nine to five, bro. It's like five to five sometimes. Five in the morning to the next five in the morning. Yes. It's more than that, bro. Like you're literally constantly because if you don't, you don't, you don't kill, you you starve. You know what I'm saying? As far as you don't make that sale, you don't do that, you don't make that phone the right phone call, you don't do that right networking event, you don't do that right post, the mind is always going. Because it's always what it's always more to do. You feel like it's always more to do. And so um to do.

SPEAKER_05

So I think that was the toughest thing. But I think leveraging, being able to now leverage a nine to five to get a little bit more stability and still be able to sell and still have that commission aspect.

SPEAKER_04

Like, that first of the month don't care. First of the month is not. The mortgage don't make them care, that car payment, the that first of the month, the rent payment is still due.

SPEAKER_05

And I and this is the thing. I was watching, I think it was like Andrew Tate or something. He was they were talking about he was like, Does money buy happiness? Like it does. It can. That's not the only thing that can make is to money, money is not the sole thing that could just make you happy, but money can buy happiness. Like, you need money like you need water. Because we need to buy things.

SPEAKER_04

And it elevates your life.

SPEAKER_05

And elevates your life.

SPEAKER_04

Simple. It helps you with the food you eat, right? The the the your looks. Yes. Put your your family in a better living situation. Your kids in a better school. If anybody ever told me that money don't make you happy, you're a damn fool, you're a liar. To some degree. I will say I got a piece of a decent amount of size of money a couple months ago, and like it didn't make me happy.

SPEAKER_05

It didn't.

SPEAKER_04

So then I'm now battling with that. Like, damn, I'm not is it really the money? You know what makes me happy? What? Purpose. I'm still searching for my purpose. Yeah. Right. And so I feel like that's real. No, I'm dead ass. That's real. I got a lot, I got paid once lump sum of what people will make in a year. Tax-free, just like that. No matter how I got it, it didn't make me as happy as I thought it was.

SPEAKER_05

But I but I know you too. That lump sum wasn't a lump sum where it's like, okay, I'm about to retire and I can do it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it wasn't that.

SPEAKER_05

That lump sum was like you still gotta figure it, we still gotta get to it. We still trying to find that purpose. And I think we were we had purpose for 20 years.

SPEAKER_04

Make it to leave.

SPEAKER_05

20 that we had purpose for two decades? Yeah. Two decades of purpose. Just living purposefully, telling people. I remember I was in a room at Cornell University. They came in, this guy who was like, you know, so we know the NFL, not a lot of guys, who in here is really gonna go to the NFL? I was the only guy to raise my hand at Cornell, because all these guys, they was like, I'm about to go get a job, I'm about to do this, I'm gonna do that. I had purpose for so long being able to walk in rooms and say, Yes, I'm going to the NFL. I I said that. But now it's like, I spent 20 years doing that, but now I'm only spent two, three, four years trying to figure out what you know.

SPEAKER_04

And sometimes, and I had this thought and I thought about this, and I just forgot about it until you just brought that up. It took us so long. We didn't just wake up and be code at football. No. We're a little bit gifted more than others. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

But that's how business is. So why I'm over here tripping that I ain't where I want to be. Nigga, you gotta put that time in, that work. It's gonna take years.

SPEAKER_04

It takes at least five years to maybe see something. And if you build a skills within them in five years, you're not really doing what you need to be doing or who you are, who you need to become in them five years. Yeah, it could happen sooner than that. But I have to remember that. That just helped me, just wow. That just really like real talk helped me in real life right now. Because I I'm a I'm a very ambitious person.

SPEAKER_05

Because you went you went from success in football to you already think you success, and then you have to drop all the way back down to the code. But you just think you could go from here, success to here. But and people do that. That's like if you make it to the NFL, you got millions of dollars. Okay, I can go from here and put a million, but you already have the capital, you already have the leverage. The connections to do so, the connections to do so. You know what I mean? And then we live in a different world with social media now where it's like you can go viral. Yeah. And that can be the get you somewhere and put you in different rooms and networks. You know, I miss it.

SPEAKER_04

And I think about all the time. And it's about longevity, bro. I think about this myself too as well. Like, okay, when I play pickleball, I was getting beat by everybody. No matter if you're 70, 60, and I'm used to being.

SPEAKER_05

Me too. I was whooping that ass. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

No, no.

SPEAKER_05

What you mean?

SPEAKER_04

My partner was ass. Come on, now she was terrible.

SPEAKER_05

No, if we did one-on-one, though, who would win?

SPEAKER_04

Me. Because I know how to hit it. Why are you lying, bro?

SPEAKER_05

Please. Matter of fact. Why are you lying? We can make a challenge. We could do a challenge. What do you want?

SPEAKER_04

We're doing this. We oooted that.

SPEAKER_05

Every bet.

SPEAKER_04

I just got to turn the ball.

SPEAKER_05

I'm not gonna say every bet we've made. We've made a few bets. I think we're 50-50 because you won the one. Nigga pulling me away from my mic. We're gonna Nigga, come on.

SPEAKER_04

Let's do this though. We shook on it.

SPEAKER_05

We shook on it. We're gonna see. What do we shake on, though? We didn't shake on nothing. Last time we try to do stupid bets.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah, and then during the season of 10 years. Then he's gonna try to adjust it. No, no, no. Let's see. Okay, it's a game of pickleball to 10, one-on-one. Um, obviously, whoever wins. Let's do um we ain't gotta do nothing. I don't care. I just know I can beat you. I just wanna beat you. That's it. I just know I can beat you now.

SPEAKER_05

I just beat you.

SPEAKER_04

So we're gonna record this. She can come record a full game and we can drop that as an episode.

SPEAKER_05

We could do that.

SPEAKER_04

We can do that.

SPEAKER_05

I don't need nothing from you. I just get the content.

SPEAKER_07

Take it here.

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Let's go.

SPEAKER_07

I've got a game for them. I spend it, every time. I got a battle. How are you thinking? I'm the greatest ever. Get my body real quick. Yeah, come on again. Oh, okay. What are you doing? He's scared. He's scared. I think I did it. Zero four zero. Hey, where? Get the movement, boy. Get the movement, boy. Get the get the movement, boy. Get the movement, boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Five zero. Yeah, free content. Fix your mic. It's hot outside now. It's hot out. For now. Fix your mic. Just pull it up.

SPEAKER_04

We can do that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Um, you don't want that though. See, we can do that. Okay, go back to what you were saying. Now that now that we got that. We can do that. Now that we got that. But yeah, I think the the content is. I can't believe you just said that. That was just stupid, though. Like, you can't beat me in pickleball. You suck. I've seen you play. Yeah, and I'm better than you. No, you're not. I've seen you.

SPEAKER_04

And you don't even believe him. That's funny. You believe yourself. I do believe. I'm like that at pickleball. But I was saying the reason I brought that up for the first time was because I've seen the consistency aspect of the time in of getting better. So now I might not be able to play with the guys on that one court, or I can, but they are so good at maneuvering and knowing how to hit it and things like that. That's why I would get you, because I would hit it directionally, and you can't.

SPEAKER_05

Directionally?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like I know how to hit it and make you run for it. But then you may or might not get it back in that square, but then okay, you hit it back to me, I know how to get you. You might go that way and hit it that way.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

My thing is that like I'm such a more gifted athlete than you. No, no, but just listen. Such a more gifted athlete than you. And I was just playing pickleball, having a good time, and I would just make up for it with my athleticism. So you think but now, no, but listen, but now I've got the skill. Because I've been playing forever with the athleticism. I haven't. And that's what's gonna make it even worse for you.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. I ain't gonna talk about it no more. You're gonna see. We're gonna see. But like I'm just saying, yeah, we're talking about social media, right?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

All the TikTokers that were Carson Rooney, right? Her ex, uh uh, uh, all these other girls and guys who was making TikToks and stuff like that during COVID are all like me anders now, got deals. Yeah, longevity, right?

SPEAKER_06

Longevity.

SPEAKER_04

Content is king. Like, keep going, do it. Just like we said in the beginning. I don't know if it got it on here on the audio or not, but just pick up the camera and record something and and build it and just get better and craft it into something. But we're gonna for sure do this, like dead serious. Y'all stay tuned for that episode or whatever we're gonna do, but it's happening.

SPEAKER_05

I do think I want to talk about the the Gary Vee thing too, though, because I do feel like, like, speaking of content, right? I think you do have to be intentional somewhat about the content you're making, though. I think putting as much content out there is good.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. Are you selling something? You have an offer? That's why I want to.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

I don't want this be content out there. It has to be some people gotta get paid, you know what I'm saying? And if you love what you don't love content, I was always that guy actually in college that made content in 2016, 2017, and guys look at me like I'm weird. Just before TikTok was, but now look at it. Yeah, everybody wants to make content, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but at the end of the day, it's like, what is your offer? You know what I'm saying? And to be honest with me, I hate bullshit ass, stupid ass content. But guess what? That's what attract views. There's such low-level content out there that's not talking about camera, I'm talking about intellectual content. And I don't want to be that guy that's making stupid content. I just can't I won't indulge in that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I don't want to make stupid content. I I think it's a battle. It's a battle because it's like you want to there's people that want to add value, but it's like But the value don't get the views sometime. The value don't get the views all the time.

SPEAKER_04

Unfaved should be at like 5k subscribers right now.

SPEAKER_05

Should be at 5k.

SPEAKER_04

But guess what? Uh Rakai doing something stupid, dancing with a little girl chicken the booty, get like 20 million views. You know what I mean? 20 million views. I don't understand that. I don't understand society.

SPEAKER_05

So what is it? But I I do think there's there's beauty and like longevity though, like you're saying. I think going into something and I have a passion for this. Like we have a passion for podcasting, just making that type of content. So it's like 600. I think we're at 680 or something right now. I'm gonna ride, I'm gonna ride it out until we get to five, like I'm gonna be here every week until we still try and get to five first five first a thousand. Yes, exactly. I'm so I'm gonna be here. First paycheck. First paycheck, you know what I mean? So I'm gonna ride it out until then, like, and I love it so much that it's like I don't plan on stopping.

SPEAKER_04

It ain't even about the money. It's not, it's cool to make content and get paid for it. What?

SPEAKER_05

It's great to make content and get paid, but it ain't even about that.

SPEAKER_04

Like, I've I shit. I love making content. I I and I'm getting to the point where now with me, I'm making content now and I'm showing my real self.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Because I don't people gonna talk about it.

SPEAKER_05

That's what pays though.

SPEAKER_04

People gonna talk regardless.

SPEAKER_05

But do you think there was a time where it was like you were making content and you were like, maybe you look you were just making the content to make the content, and now you're able to be more of your more authentic self? Or have you always been your authentic self?

SPEAKER_04

I've tried in a way always be real because I hate fake people. Yeah, I hate it, but that's like once again, what pays. That's what gets the views. Yeah, that's what it gets the subscribers, the Instagram followers, the fame, the notoriety. However, I feel like now it's a little bit different because then I could just post a highlight table of me doing football or something like that, and then it gets views. And then I post something else, and we talked about this before. And then I post something else about me doing, you know, investments in life insurance, and that shit get 32 likes and uh two saves and one share. Yeah. I'm actually gonna save your life and help you. But that doesn't do anything, bro. So like it's just longevity and and just doing it in a way where you know it adds value and it's all just learning, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05

So about to pull up a Gary Vee video.

SPEAKER_04

Post girl repeat. Well, I can't really eat that chicken, I'm hungry as hell. Yeah, stop playing. Let me see what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01

You can literally be a content creator around anything without any need to produce anything, especially now with green screen. What a gift. Like, what do you want to talk about? Go Google that term, find an article written about it yesterday, control copy, like screen shoot it, literally go into your Instagram, go to reels, put green screen, put it up, and literally hold a button and talk about it for a minute and post it. It's profound. You can literally be a content creator around anything without any need to produce anything.

SPEAKER_04

I'm about to actually buy, so I just built my desk. Uh, I'm gonna get a couple uh monitors and something like this that you have right here with the lights. And um I'm gonna buy a green screen for the back of me. So when I'm talking like how you're talking right now, yeah, it'll be a green screen, like a big circle green screen.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And it ties to the chair. So anytime I have a Trump said something stupid or Elon does something cool or anything like that, I can talk about it now. Boom, instantly make content. You know what I mean? Instantly make content. And then with my apartment, since I have like a big size studio, um, I won't have my back, my bed or stuff like that in the back of the back until I want to show that. But yeah, I mean, I agree with that 100%. Yeah, it's just about there's no excuse for nothing in this life, bro.

SPEAKER_06

There's no excuse.

SPEAKER_04

There's no excuse for anything that you want in this life. It's just about what you don't know, it could kill you. And it's like you just have to learn and be exposed to it.

SPEAKER_06

That's it.

SPEAKER_04

Truthfully, there's no there's no reason to complain and bitch or moan about shit that you don't have. When you got Chat GBT, like we in an information era. It's too much information out here.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. And I think it's about having a having a plan. I think a lot of people are thinking like we think, okay, I want to do this, I want to do this, I want to do that. Well, it's like, okay, it's like, okay, what do you really want to do? What's your plan?

SPEAKER_04

Huh? What if you want to do a lot? Because I kind of I did with this myself. Like, why I gotta be doing one thing? You don't have I and I and I gotta be talking about one thing. And I don't think I'm more than just a finance guy, I'm more than just an athlete. You know what I'm saying? Shit, I want to model again. Yeah. I used to model. I look good, I look better than some models already. Come on. Right? I look better, I look better than a little African dude over there, skinny African man, you know what I'm saying? Which one? I don't know. People I see on billboards and shit like that. I'm just saying, I look better. So I'm just saying, like, I want to do a lot of things.

SPEAKER_05

You gotta do it.

SPEAKER_04

Just do it. Keep it.

SPEAKER_05

But I think but I think that there's a benefit in the focus. There's a benefit on okay, getting that one thing and locking in on that one thing so much because it's like we want to do a lot and none of it's working. It's like it's like that same thing. It's like if I'm pushing all these things, I'm okay, little here, then I'll go to this one here, this one here. They all inching, but if you log one, boom, you could take it right to the go. So I think I think that's the main thing. How do you find that? How do you find what? That one thing.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_05

I think you find the one thing. I think you have to plan. I think you have to really put down some sort of plan and say, okay, what's the most important thing to me right now? And what's it's about your time? Because we all get 24 hours. So using your 24 hours and maximizing your 24 hours. I'm not saying if you want to do all these five things, don't do them. But if there's you're not making any money and you want to make, I think you have to focus on making money first. You know what I mean? If none of these things are making money, I'm like, okay, I'm going. Or if you want to sacrifice, yeah, you could sacrifice and be take time to make it go live in a homeless shelter, go go wait tables, go do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_04

Do that and find that job. Uh I ain't too good for nothing, brother. And too good for nothing. I'll go work at my own.

SPEAKER_05

That's that's how all the you hear all the actor stories. They're like, okay, I just waited tables, I stayed in this place, and then I just got my big break. Some people happen like that. Some people want to be successful luck. I've been thinking about this.

SPEAKER_04

It does and as far as NFL and stuff like that, or streamers or people that make it. Do you think it's a little bit of luck involved?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but you have to be. I forgot. We always I said this quote before, but it's like when preparation is success, when preparation meets opportunity. So there has to be some sort of luck is when preparation meets opportunity. It has to be prepared for the opportunity. Because you're not prepared for the opportunity. You can't even say you can't get no luck. I see you got green, or you got the green on. It's lucky. Green is lucky. I like green for money, but luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

SPEAKER_04

So that's even in everything. So not just sports. It's sports that makes sense. In everything. In everything.

SPEAKER_05

Because the then wait, because because when we do get it, right, they're gonna say we got lucky. You're gonna look like an overnight success.

SPEAKER_04

You didn't see the the hours I put it that just killed that. Say less.

SPEAKER_05

Oh the preparation. Say less. But I think that's the main thing. I think for me, it's just like, okay, I need to, my relationship with money has not been great. Like any way, like the way that it comes to me, and then the way that I get it. I get it, then I relax, and I get it, then I relax, or I get it, and it's like, okay, I don't got it. Okay, I gotta figure out something, figure out.

SPEAKER_04

I think that's why I kind of say I I wasn't that happy when I got that big that big check or whatever. It's because I kind of got a little bit comfortable. Like I my bills are gonna be paid, auto pay, grocery bill, gas, uh, yeah, go spend$5,000 here, go thousand here, go shop over here. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You can't do that. And I did that the first year, I made my first six figures in financial services, and then I left that job because I just felt like it was a good reason. I just I couldn't grow. But then guess what? Gotta show me a lesson. You still need that money coming in. Because as soon as, as quick as it comes, it's as it can leave quicker. It can leave quicker. And if you ain't got income coming in and you think you got six figures and it's cool and cool, that shit gonna be gone. You're gonna be stuck, and I'm stuck. You know what I'm saying? And we have to keep teaching me lessons as I go.

SPEAKER_05

You have to be realistic too. It is the world is expensive. Like this, it's way more expensive than it was 10 years ago. Five years ago, five years ago, and 20, like it's way more expensive. It's not gonna slow down. So we have to make significantly amount of more money to maintain a basic lifestyle where we can eat out, we can maybe hang out and enjoy life. You have to make a certain amount of money to do that.

SPEAKER_04

You have a dollar you want? You have that. I feel like I hear a lot of people talk about it, but like, do you have that? What's your amount that makes you happy you think? What's that amount you want?

SPEAKER_05

I don't think there's like a set amount that I have now. I think for me, I think it's getting back to like that first twenty thousand dollars. You put that first twenty thousand dollars that you just have that you're invested into like an SP 500 or an index fund. I think that's my goal. Because then when you get there, I I forgot what the numbers were, but it's like then you're making a thousand or something, whatever APY.

SPEAKER_04

No, ten percent, you know what I'm saying? You put a hundred thousand in there, it could be a thousand or ten thousand, however it goes, yeah, compounding.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

So I think invest ahead after your first million, that's like another hundred thousand that you can make. That's why rich people stay rich. Exactly. Because they let their money work for them. But it's easier to let your money work for them when you got money. Yes.

SPEAKER_05

And that's what I'm saying. I think we fight, we've been fighting like the relationship with money. It's like, okay, we're fighting to get it, we get comfortable, we're fighting to get it, okay. We get alive, we get a little. Sometimes we ain't got nothing, but we got some saved up and we got to use it. Whatever it is, that relationship just hasn't been gone. I need some stability to fix the relationship that I have with money so I can start playing. Because we think it's always okay, I need this crypto, I need this big business, I need this. But there are some people that they can make$40,000 a year and be a teacher, but they can retire in 20 years just because they aggressively didn't spend a lot of money and they invested it into the SP 500 into an index fund. And they just and did that. Because if you do that aggressively for a few 10 years at our because we're still young. If we do that for the first 10 years, we'll have 100,000. We do that for the we could be rich by the time we're 40. But it's like people will play these games and play these gimmicks, and I'm gonna get rich, I'm gonna try this, I'm gonna try this. You look up, you're 40, you still ain't got shit.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you still working. That's why you need to earn income.

SPEAKER_05

You know what I mean? You need to earn income, and I've realized everybody has earned income though.

SPEAKER_04

Jeff Bezos, I mean they get their money through debt and things like that, and through stock shares and stuff like that, but I don't care what you do, everybody has earned income. No matter if it's YouTube or what, everybody has a way to make money consistently, or at least somewhat consistently.

SPEAKER_05

And I think that's the problem, the consistency of how the money's been coming in. It's been good and it's been a blessing, but it's like there's just having the commission job and just the work from home and the like it's just I don't think it's it's been that hasn't been a healthy relationship, and I definitely want to change that, and I'm happy to be able to change it. But are you aware of it now? Yeah, you is aware of it now. Because it's like literally, if I would have used these five years and just had something stable, and I was like, okay, I'm putting$100 in here to But you don't know what you don't know.

SPEAKER_04

I know a year, two years, five years ago, you ain't known about SP and all that.

SPEAKER_05

You don't know what you don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. Don't you don't know what you don't know. Yeah. But I think a lot of people make it difficult. Like, because everybody, and this is what I'm gonna say. The one there's people don't realize the Cassanats, the Rakais, and all this, those are still the one percent of streamers.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_05

LeBron, there's one percent that's the Duke Dennis, the LeBrons, there's one percent that are become Gordon Ramseys, there's one percent that become speed. I show speeds, and like, but I'm talking about in every field. Yeah, and anything that there's one percent that become the top doctor, and the that's one percent. So if there's 99% of people, I'm not saying don't try to do that. Don't try to what I'm saying is that be in that 99% and still get rich by doing it the basic way by having a job and investing your money the right way.

SPEAKER_04

Don't mean you can't make 20, 200. You still up there, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05

You can you can do that.

SPEAKER_04

But that's still 1%.

SPEAKER_05

And it doesn't have to be flashy. Yeah, it doesn't have to be it doesn't have to be posted on Instagram. Well, it isn't flashy, it doesn't have to be posted on Instagram, it doesn't have to be so everybody can see it. It doesn't have to be in the Bugatti right away.

SPEAKER_04

Unless you're using lifestyle content to, you know, attract people and things like that, which we somewhat all do. It's a smart thing to do. Smart thing to do. So I'm gonna post my ass off when I go to Miami next week. Like, I'm gonna come on, you know, content's gonna be good. I'm gonna have a couple of our TikToks, just watch. Come on. I'm already saving them right now. I'm already getting my so it's just about your niche, and it's just about you know what you got going on.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. Okay, we gotta talk about the Super Bowl, man. Actually, what are you done? Wait, are you done?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that was good.

SPEAKER_05

No, I'm saying you're done with playing football? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I was on comeback, then I went and ran routes with some guys, like Trey Lance, Seth, and like a couple other guys, Charles Sharambo. And he was like, I ain't got it no more. No, no, no. I think I still got it. I felt good, boy. Ooh, we a slant route, split relief, stick inside, hard, jab. You know, I still got it. It's just that my body hurt it so bad. After literally. That's crazy. But that's only because I ain't been trained like that. You haven't done it, yeah. Yeah, but I know if I give myself a month, I'm good. You're good. But I don't even want to. No, we're gonna stick this hard shit out with business and stuff. Yeah. Fuck going back to what you knew. That ain't you no more, nigga. We gonna do something else. So that's why I'm done. I ended up how I wanted to end it. Yeah. I told myself and I told God that He let me, you know, you know, I had that. And that year was straight God. Like the shit that was happening, yeah. Like, I ain't never hurt nobody in my life on things. If I did, I I I remember a couple times I did in high school, stuff like that, but I ain't hurtling nobody. Yeah, clearing people, that's like, you know what I'm saying? But like, I did what I did. Now it's about, you know, my mindset, and this is crazy because now Charles is done playing, you're done playing now, right? And so I was the first one saying I'm done. Y'all looking at me. Now I'm not done. Now y'all done, you know what I'm saying? And now I'm over here like, damn, do I want to play again? Like I do miss it. I still got more in a tank. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I'm done for sure, bro. Yeah. I'm done. It's time to move on, and I wanna, and then it ain't birthday, but if you get hurt, like they ain't paying you out nothing crazy.

SPEAKER_05

And the thing is, is like what we're talking about. What we're talking about earlier was like at a certain point, at the level that we're at, at a certain point, you're gonna have to stop playing either way, and you're gonna have to look at this life and you're gonna have to go get a job.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Or you're gonna have to go sell some drugs.

SPEAKER_04

You need to go uh build some skills up. If I gotta tell you anything, if you're an athlete out there and you may be uh this applies for you if you're in high school, college, or even if you're professional. I thought about this and it hurts me because I I I didn't have skills. I thought I had skills. Skills, you need skills to bring you income, bro. Or somebody else gonna be deciding that life for you. That McDonald's, that Walgreens, that CVS gonna be deciding that life for you. So find skills with AI, options, or how to how to uh power wash or how to do anything. Skills have something, be valuable to the marketplace. The marketplace is this world. Learn how to talk correctly, which I'm learning because that's a skill in itself. Learn how to sell, that's a skill in itself. Learn art of persuasion, that's a skill in itself. I may not know how to do backflips and dance and do all other things like that, like Chris Brown and stuff like that, but sales, entrepreneurship, um, know how to talk, it's all that's those are my skill sets. And I'm still trying to learn them because it's a shitty feeling when you don't have a skill set that's valuable to the marketplace, to the world, and you're looked down upon because you're just like in the or you just see other people living that life that you want to live. If there's people living that life you want to live out there, just know that.

SPEAKER_05

That's scary. That are not as talented, bro.

SPEAKER_04

There's that are not as smart out there living the life that you want to live. Can you believe that? And you scared to go do pick up that camera or something like that, or go talk to that person or that girl or whatever. There's bro, like things like that keep me up at night. Cause I know I still ain't reached my full potential yet. And I know I have a lot. I'm gonna make it in this world. Just watch. I know I am. Because I'm a die trying. I swear to god I am. I'm gonna do everything.

SPEAKER_05

Literally.

SPEAKER_04

Literally, like I'm not settling for no mediocre life, bro. Yeah. What is that? We get one. Kai posted a video, you know, he had doing through his breakup and his new clothing brand, and he's even rebranding. Right. You should never be staying the same. You should always be trying to involve in some way. Keep going. Your body and everything. That's why I look sexier than you.

SPEAKER_05

I just gotta go through a sickness.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I'm saying? But uh, what I'm just saying is this uh he said a post and he was like, bro, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. If you think about it, you work hard and you live at around 20 something, 2530. The average person lives to around 75, 80 as a male. Or if you're a regular person, you're working out of five, you work till you're around 40, 50, 60. That leaves you around 10, 15 years to live. And so now I'm I'm in my head, I'm like, bro, the quicker you get to where you want to go, the longer you can live, the longer you can live in it. Urgency, we just talked about it. Talking to rental people like my mama and them, they don't fucking understand and drives me nuts. Because half of the shit I'm trying to do is for you. If it was for me, I'd just be a bum. Dead ass, bro. What am I doing this for me for? Like, I I truly, that's why I want God to bless me because I want to be able to help others. I have a big heart, bro. I want to help others, fam. The quicker you get to where you're gonna go, the longer you gotta live in it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, because either way, you're gonna have to put to build those skills. All those skills we talked about, you don't just snap and those skills come. You're gonna have to put it if it sales, you're gonna put it in the world.

SPEAKER_04

And bless you with. Like we were blessed to run fast. We were blessed.

SPEAKER_05

We were blessed to jump. You're crazy. I can't wait till I whoop you and pick up.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, my mama. We could bet a thousand dollars you won't win.

SPEAKER_05

See, now you want to bet money. At first it was like, oh, I don't need to. Well, could you keep talking like you just want some money? I taught you how to get to the microphone. He just got in a car accident. He just tried to get some money.

SPEAKER_04

I taught you how to play.

SPEAKER_05

No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_04

I taught you how to play. No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_05

But yeah, man, I I appreciate you, you know, hopping on the pod, man. I think because we we were gonna talk about some other stuff, but I think you know.

SPEAKER_04

This went a whole nother level of just like, but we we got some. It's a high-level conversation. This is a really high-level conversation.

SPEAKER_05

I'd like to have a high-level conversation. It's always we can keep going.

SPEAKER_04

We can keep going. What you got? Five more minutes? What you got? I'm on that chicken, but we got five more minutes.

SPEAKER_05

I smell it too. That's what's I just smelled it.

SPEAKER_04

It came right at the beginning of me first. Yes, it's already over here now. I don't understand. But look though, I just I don't know, bro. But I on some real stuff, and this is between me, like I gonna hear this, but I really wish we could collab more.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. I do wanna I do want to collab more. Like, uh, that's ideas and stuff. I didn't even get to the plan. I have a plan. You wanna hear the plan?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, sure. I yeah, I have a plan. You have a plan? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Let's hear the plan. See, that's the problem. He don't be acting like he wanna hear the plan. No, I'm like, yeah, let's hear the plan. Okay, I'm gonna hear the plan. So my plan right now, right? We didn't been through the insurance and everything. The crazy thing about the insurance, as I'm not gonna say bad. It wasn't bad. It was a great experience. I took a lot of things from it. I still be getting them residual checks. Them residuals are real. I stopped getting them a lot, but it was nice though. My stuff, I guess stuff's still coming. I'm like, dang, like 300. That's what I'm gonna do. You just keep doing that for if you just dedicate your life to that. Oh my god. Build your book of business? What is going on? Go ahead. Okay. The plan is okay, I'm gonna get this job with move. I got a nice sales job. I'm gonna be able to work the sales job and see what I can take this to. Hopefully, I can take this to six plus figures and just be able to do that with just that job. And I'm like, I'm gonna be able to do that. I have the podcast, really investing a lot more into the podcast, the quality of guests to boosting the page and doing a lot of things just to increase the quality, have different people on as another stream of income that will come on. And then as I get this relationship and I fix and I have a little therapy session with money, you know what I mean? And I begin getting my investments, and I'm investing every month and doing things like that. I really want to get into AI.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you've been saying that a while ago since we broke down. I was gonna ask you that. Like, you still doing that or like what?

SPEAKER_05

I'm really going to get into AI. And I was like, I had invested a little bit into it, and I like started getting into it, but I was like, man, I'm doing so much right now. I'm like, it's just it's too much right now. I gotta get to no, it was too much to not have a consistent income. Like we're talking about the nine to five. If you ain't got money, we can't think right. Like, you can't think. I gotta make money first. Now I'm still surviving. Yeah, I mean, I'm month to month trying to make sure I don't have to go into my savings to pay these bills. I'm like, I need that's emergency. I need to keep the emergency emergency, you know what I mean? So I think that now, if I could create that better relationship with money, it's gonna allow me to take that five to nine a lot more seriously, where we can really sit down and I'm really AI, like these next four years are gonna be crazy, and we have a really big opportunity for AI next four years.

SPEAKER_04

Listen to what I gotta say. You don't have four years. You have four years. No, you don't. You got four years. You got three.

SPEAKER_05

That's the problem.

SPEAKER_04

You have four Magic Johnson said we had three years. I went to InvestFest, bro. He's a billionaire. Why'd he say three? I don't know why he said three, but he's a billionaire. Yeah, he knows something. He knows something. He got things crazy.

SPEAKER_05

He had AIDS and he got rid of it. You know it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04

I was listening to somebody else on their podcast.

SPEAKER_05

It was um I think I seen Elon Musk said four, but he might have said that a year ago. It was not, it was Tony Robbins. Right? Tony Robbins. What about him?

SPEAKER_04

Talk like this, right? Tony Robbins?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yes, he does talk like that.

SPEAKER_04

He said we had three years too. It was somebody big, bro. I think we really got three years. No, it was actually probably Elon Musk. He said we had three years.

SPEAKER_05

Elon Musk said four years, but that was a year ago, I think. So it might be three years. So now we got three years. Yeah, so three years.

SPEAKER_04

To me.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Either way, you got less than five years. To max up, I think it is to maximize on the AI. They're gonna make it to where these classes of being poor and rich and ultra-rich, or we're just middle class and shit like that, it's gonna be harder because they're gonna put stipulations on this crypto and these investments and stuff like that. So if you're not in your bag right now, you're not learning about AI, I'll put us on there though. If I show you my YouTube right now, you're gonna see videos of AI. I was literally watching videos of AI and the different softwares and the different uh language models like Co-Pilot, Chat GBT, Gemini, Perplexity. Yeah. And so now I'm trying to use AI every day. There's some guys that's big on YouTube and some CEOs that say, if you don't use AI every day, then what the fuck are you doing?

SPEAKER_05

But we're and I we're we're talking about that because we're talking about collaborating. I think that's where, because like I don't I can't do too much. I think that is what I wanna collab on.

SPEAKER_04

AI.

SPEAKER_05

That that I think that is the thing that if we're you wanna start an AI business, what you want to do? Yeah. Start an AI business.

SPEAKER_04

You know, I have a homie that I met, he ain't even a homie, he's somebody I met, he played football at Baylor. Seen him this past weekend. Hey, what's going on, bro? How you doing? Da-da-da. What you doing for work now? Just because I'm like, I'm interested in people do for work. Because I never had that thing I wanted to do. I started playing football until now with finance and shit. But he was like, oh I I'm I'm I'm Paul Carl owner of a startup. A startup? You can do it. Why am I? Guess what he did? He had a homie. They came together. They made a startup AI company for mortgage companies. Why can I not do that? Why are why are people like you and and and my homie um BJ from Cali, who and and uh like why are we not coming together? He's black, but he act white.

SPEAKER_05

That's a problem.

SPEAKER_04

But like, why are we not doing this, bro? Why are we not saying, all right, you got five grand, I got five grand? All right, uh, you want to get a vendor machine, you wanna go uh try to wholesale a flip? Like, why are we like these are the conversations I'll be trying to have, bro? And it's like it's to the point, I ain't gonna lie, I'm keeping up, I mean this shit right now. I'm starting to resent the niggas that I'm cool with. Because y'all niggas ain't trying to do shit. Y'all are, but y'all ain't. I feel it, to be honest.

SPEAKER_03

Because like, why are we not where we want to be?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's us. It's a switch.

SPEAKER_04

Turn on the switch, bro. Like, it's a switch. Everybody's collaborating that's making it that I know that in different ethnicities, or maybe not he black, but he act white, but he went to whatever, but like, why are we not coming together?

SPEAKER_05

We have to chip, but I think it is societal and generational, but I think we have to break, we have to be the ones to break that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, bro. Like, it's even just like yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_05

Having having meetups or not meetups, or like what do you call it? But mind masterminds.

SPEAKER_04

Whatever it is. Big thing. So it's this guy on Instagram, and it's like him, he owns the glow tanning. He's a bald guy. I think he's in the league. There's another guy who's a who's a fitness model, uh, slash like uh lawyer, you know what I'm talking about. His name I am something on Instagram. And yep, and there's another guy named Billy who's here in Dallas and he's in Miami, and they're all homies. Bro, guess what they did? And I'm like, damn, that's that's nice. I I want to comment and I want to say that my wish I had a guy like y'all in my life. They all got together. You got a lawyer in the group, you got a guy that owns businesses and shopping malls, you have a guy that's the sports agent, you have a guy that does something else, and there's like 10 of them. But I only follow like I think I follow all 10 now, but I only follow heavily like around four or five of them.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Now we ain't gotta do this. But they got together. Whether if it was content or not, and I know it wasn't because they always together and always doing business together. Got on a PJ because they can afford it. We ain't got to. Went to Vegas, a game plan, made content out of it. They showed it. Each one of them got on a whiteboard, what's your goal for this year? How can I help you? You can help me do this. Why are we not doing this? I'm dead ass right now. I'm serious, bro. Fuck the content. I'm dead ass with you. Like, why are we not doing this, bro?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we need to. We need to.

SPEAKER_04

It's just it's crazy, bro. Cause I know how much of a real guy I am. So I know that like if I got a guy that, for instance, I make it into something, right? I make it in my sports firm. I'm the type of guy, I'm gonna f if I see you ain't where you wanna be at, da da da da, I'm gonna try to find a way to put you on in my business or help you get a business to do that. I know hella niggas ain't gonna do that. But it's the type of guy I am, you know what I'm saying? Like, I believe that one person makes it in a group, then okay, I know at least if one of us gonna make it.

SPEAKER_08

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04

But I seen that, bro. There's people out there delegating and coming together to do stuff, and I just wish, you know, people. That's why I'm like, fuck it.

SPEAKER_05

But I that's what I'm saying. I I think it is, I think the I think the issue, right? And not an excuse, but I think an issue is like, okay, we weren't thinking like that. It's like you don't know what you don't know, but I think it's also like we have like me personally figuring, like, I've been trying to figure so many things out for myself where it's like, okay, like I'm like, okay, I got this, I got this, I got this, I got this, and I haven't even had time to think about this.

SPEAKER_04

Don't you think that every big startup was co-founded? Had to be. It was. Had to be. So why don't we?

SPEAKER_05

Had to be.

SPEAKER_04

Apple, it was, it won't even like PayPal, Tesla. There's always a co-found NVIDIA, Jensen Jane, whatever his name is.

SPEAKER_05

But I also think, but I also think like we can we can say that, but I think also, like, like you said, all those guys, they had something that they was bringing to the table as well. But we still got our own things we bring to the table. And I think we do have those own things that we bring to the table. There has to be stuff. We can talk, and I think we have talked like about ideas. I think we need to talk more about ideas, but it has to be some sort of like conviction behind it. I don't think I'm to like we talk about purpose. Like, I don't want to just do shit to just do shit. Yeah, you know what I mean? I can't. It has to be something that is like, because I there's plenty of friends that is like things, hey, I'm gonna do this, I got this, I'm like, that shit doesn't give me that, like you just saying shit, and you don't know. And it's like there's a lot of people that's like you don't know. Like starting, making a startup is like you have to be all in, like you can't just say something to just say something. Like, oh, I want to start this. Everybody wants to be a billionaire, everybody wants to start a business, everybody wants to do this. So if you're gonna come to me with this, you have to know something because I don't have time to teach you. And I talking about you, because you know like what it takes to build a business, start a business. So I'm like, yeah, we do need to collab, but it's like it has to be the right people, and like you don't even need has to be the right people that's like, okay, I'm gonna be able to kick it with you for real. And like we have to go all in with it. And it has to like we if we even if we're gonna learn together, we learn together, but it's like we have to be all in, and you have to can't just be talking. A lot of people just talk, yeah. A lot of people just dream.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, no, no, but that gets me pissed.

SPEAKER_05

Like we don't like we're not at the point, we don't have time. You said we got three years, but we don't got time to dream.

SPEAKER_04

I don't got time.

SPEAKER_05

We don't got time. So, like, if there is something we're gonna do, let's we can put it on the whiteboard and let's let's do it, let's attack it. But it has to be something that's like, okay, this is it. And it's like we could do it, and it fails, fine. That's gonna teach us how to do put this together for the next thing. And I think a lot of times I battle with that too, because it doesn't necessarily have to be the I'm the most passionate about this, but it's a connection that we make. I've had like the AI for the mortgage businesses, the AI for the mortgage. It's not like I didn't grow up, I'm gonna make AI for mortgage, but no, it's like I see a problem. So when I ask people, I see a problem. That's the thing. I solve a problem. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04

You need to do? We need to go and get on a whiteboard, dead ass, and just think and lock ourselves in a room and say, what are the problems that we see in society with athletes or this and this and this and this and this and this and this, and how can we do it? And go from there. Matter of fact, I might do that tonight. And I think I might do that tonight my damn self.

SPEAKER_05

And there's some things that I learned, I say this all the time. Like, I learn more. I'm like, I learn more being self-educated. I learn more the four years after Cornell than I did while I was at Cornell.

SPEAKER_04

I was in teachers. I ain't never used a Y equals MX plus B squared. Uh What's that, Pythagorean? Pythagorean theorem. I never use that, bro. Like what? Like what? I'm mad I went to school. I'm not mad. If you out there and you don't play sports, you think about going to college? Only go to college if you want to be like something that needs like a doctor, a lawyer, maybe an engineer, a nurse, things like that. But other than that, college is only good, bro. And it's a fact, I think, for connections.

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

You go talk to every goddamn body. Because you never know who might become who and who you can build a connection with. That's why I'm always outside. I don't really know.

SPEAKER_05

And if you want to and if you want to go to college, instead of going to the college, connect with somebody that went to the college and just use their connection.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And just build build off like that. Like you don't have to spend a thousand dollars or four years or whatever. It is just literally, it feels like it is a waste of time.

SPEAKER_04

It is a waste of time, bro. It is a waste of time. Some people look at me like I'm done when I say I don't reg and I mean this in a way, but I don't mean it in a way. I mean it, but I don't mean it in the most craziest way. I regret I played football for so long. I regret, matter of fact, not even no, I don't. I regret I was so stuck on it for so long. Because if I would have made it, it'd have been great. But then at the end of the day, guess what? It ends sometimes still. No matter if you're 30, 35, and you got 20 mil, you ain't got no skills. What value do you bring to the marketplace? It always goes back to that. No matter if I that's why I don't want to go back, because I'm still young and I still got time to. I don't have a family, but I want one soon. Okay, I want to get married soon. And this ain't from other seeing other people. No, I want that.

SPEAKER_05

This is what you want.

SPEAKER_04

But I ain't gonna bring no baby in here in this life, and I ain't got a hundred grand. Now they're saying I need it, but I ain't about to bring a baby in.

SPEAKER_05

People have done it with less.

SPEAKER_04

But I don't want to have to stress this because they they did less to mean this, right?

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

I don't want to have to stress about it. You know what I'm saying? And I want these things, you know. Money man, we can have a two-hour conversation about money because you gotta think about it. This is how important money is. What do a lot of guys in the league, I'm gonna let you answer it, do? You probably know by the conversation when they make it to the league and they get that first contract. What they do?

SPEAKER_05

Buy uh buy the house, mom my house. No. What'd they do?

SPEAKER_04

Have a fucking baby.

SPEAKER_05

Or have a kid.

SPEAKER_04

Why?

SPEAKER_05

Because they got they got it. Money's not a problem.

SPEAKER_04

So if anybody tells you money don't matter, a fucking line they ain't got none.

SPEAKER_05

And I mean that shit. Or they got it and they just just say it to say it.

SPEAKER_04

A lot of times they ain't got it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But they do have kids, then they go get a house. And they might do both at the same time.

SPEAKER_05

Which takes money.

SPEAKER_04

Which takes money. It's important. If you ain't got none, kids something. Cause I know my ass, I'm always trying to think about it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, and I think the the most beautiful thing I think about this conversation too is that like it's coming from a perspective of like, we're not broke, but we're not where we want to be. Yeah, I'm blessed more than lies. Right. So I think it's a beautiful conversation to have to have this, and then like, okay, we said three years, but it's like we see what happened in a year, see how this looks like in a year. See what this starts. You can even look at where this started at, like the first conversation, like, and then just look where it's at now, and look how better we're getting. And it's like, it may not look better, but it's better because you have to go through that to get to that.

SPEAKER_04

And you ain't always gotta be based things off of money either, like our growth from like me first meeting you, or yes, starting this podcast, or since the last time I was on, it can also be here.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, thoughts, knowledge, skills, resourcefulness, kind of learned options and this and this and that.

SPEAKER_04

And I ain't had that when I first started, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So this has been a good ass episode, bro. I hope y'all like this because this is some real spill.

SPEAKER_05

It's real stuff, and it's we're gonna we're real from you because it's like you can listen to every billionaire, millionaire come on here and just oh, oh, you have hard, you can do this. It is, but no, we're we're people that are in the marketplace right now, just like you, trying to figure it out, trying to find passion, just trying to figure it out, and we are figuring it out. Yes, and as much as we're having this conversation right now, and it may seem like okay, like we don't really know. We know, like we know where we're gonna be in a couple years, like we know like what this is. Like, we didn't manifest it. This is us game planning, this is us just talking about it, but we know, like we know what this is gonna look like, you know. So appreciate y'all. Make sure y'all hit that subscribe button, man. That's helping us build out this platform. We're doing a lot of more things. You see, we got the new studio first L first time in the studio, but we're doing a lot of good things. So please keep hitting that subscribe button. I know a lot of new people are seeing this, but you don't hit that subscribe button, right? So make sure you hit that subscribe button, like, comment, subscribe, and we'll be back at it with another episode next week. Stay on phase on phase. Profitable playmakers out of here. Let's go, let's go.

SPEAKER_02

Time eat some chicken, chicken, chicken.

SPEAKER_00

I'm on face, I'm on face, Jeff and stack this paper on my face.