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In this episode of the Unphazed Podcast, we break down the biggest storylines from the NBA Finals, debate what we're seeing on the court, and talk about some of the biggest stories in the NBA this season.

We also dive into the latest The Kevin Hart Roast controversy, the role of comedy in today's culture, and whether society has become too sensitive when it comes to jokes, entertainment, and public discourse.

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🏀 NBA Finals Breakdown
🎤 Kevin Hart Roast & Comedy Culture
🔥 Outrage, Backlash & Public Reactions
💭 Free Speech, Humor & Modern Culture

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I gotta give a very quick shout out to my brother. Real deal McNeil is back in the studio. I got some for him. Did you ever yeah he's back? Come on. Y'all don't even give me this much. Yep.

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Everybody call that.

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Okay, that's what we get. Back in the middle.

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Back and I'm better.

SPEAKER_04

Hey. I know we've been mid a minute, but what do we get? Real deal McNeil in the studio, everybody. Brother, brother. It's great to see you. Great to see you, man. Yeah, you know how we get down.

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Yeah, that's my little bit.

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We appreciate it, brother. It's been a while. It has been a while, yeah.

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Feels good to never left, though. Black we never left. How you been doing?

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Man, been doing good. Blessed. You know, new things are on the horizon.

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Yeah.

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Summertime coming up. It's hot. It's hot. Hot. We just talked about going to the pool. It's hot. Hot. But no, yeah, summertime's coming up, man. Um I've just been manifesting a lot of new things, you know what I'm saying? When it comes to this year, the rest of this year, actually. Things have been going good. I've gotten a new car, a new job.

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Come on.

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So, you know, that's always a blessing. I'm saying good money. So at the same time, new ventures. We got some things coming up. You know what I'm saying? Saturday's gonna be amazing. I'm excited, nervous, but excited. Yes. Um, gotta start vlogging that or something. Yes. Give it to the people. But other than that, man, just the rest of the year, just do it. Just do a kind of year. Whatever I've been saying, manifesting, speaking into existence, I'm just gonna go get it. I I've done all the planning I could do. There's no more blueprinting and foundation I can be building. I gotta just put it into, you know, put it into play and you know, walk into it.

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Yeah, man. I'm trying to, you know, just keep keep the ball rolling one foot after another, meeting new people. Cause I feel like a lot of times when I do the solos, it's really good because I get to work on my speaking and like kind of what I want unphazed to be, but then it's like, no, you need the people, you need the guests, you need that to one time just to mix it up and stay in that network.

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It was it was a crazy time last time.

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It's crazy to think you know, the years flew by.

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And as you can see, it's been only progression, it's only upside. Like, but you know, on the topic of progression, like for one thing, I'm happy that you gotten to witness first hand, which I don't know if you sit sat back and you know, took it in or you know, sit back and realize it. But when you first started this, you and L. Yes. You and L, y'all sat down on the pod, y'all had a like-minded idea, yes, and y'all just started doing it, you know. That trickled into, you know, you and L, you know, branching off. I got introduced to it, you guys started getting guests on the show. Me and you took it, you know what I'm saying, to a whole nother level with the 30 days and phase. But one thing I'm not sure you really witnessed, and one thing I felt like us being here for you, because I don't know if you ever, and I'll I guess I'll let you speak on it, but I know I don't know if you ever didn't realize you could do it by yourself. So one thing I I'm glad that I've witnessed transpired because as we went through 30 days and phase, that one episode, you know what I'm saying, where you was like, well, I think I'm gonna do a solo. And I'm like, nah, that'll be dope because it's some effect, you know what I'm saying. At the end of the day, you really built this brick by brick, you know what I'm saying? And for from the ground up. So it was like for you to actually start manifesting, like, I think, you know, I'm I'm I'm comfortable now, you know, to the point where I can I might let me just let me just try it. Yeah. Let me see if I it's not that I want to do it by myself, but if it ever came to it, if I ever needed to, you know what I'm saying. Well, maybe I need to improvise, maybe the brothers are sick, maybe you know what I'm saying, somebody can't make it or anything like that. Can I carry this, you know, this legacy, this torch, this franchise? Yeah. And you've been doing a damn good job. You stepped out on your own, and you took Unphaz to a another degree. So every time, you know, I don't know if you don't realize it, but every time you don't realize you can shock yourself more, you you always do. It's like, okay, I didn't did, you know, co-host, co-host, I didn't need guests, we didn't did uh a live stream 30 days, I didn't did solos. Yeah, it's like what's next for Unphase. So I'm proud of you, brother. You know what I'm saying? That you ain't never let anybody stop the vision or dream or foundation that you had for this podcast, and you've always managed a way to make sure that it continues to go, even when you know, maybe I couldn't be here, maybe it'll be here, or maybe you know saying you didn't have a guess, you're like, it's not gonna stop. As long as FaZe, the unphaz pod, which again, obviously there's a lot of things that make the unfazed pod, but as long as you have that heartbeat and you know got that drive and that influence and that ambition to continue to go, it's gonna go.

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So yes, no, I I appreciate that, bro.

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I mean, yeah, let's get that going. Yeah, yeah, let's get that going.

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Yeah, I appreciate it. But now y'all want to stand up. Oh, you gotta say something for y'all to do it. Yeah, chill out, chill out. But no, I I appreciate that, bro. And I think um it surprises me a lot a lot of times when I do it, but it's one of those things, it's literally the mindset that you said you set for the years, just doing it. It's like I see all these other people and I get inspiration from like the Theo Vines or all these other podcasts that I see him like, oh, he's doing a solo, he's just on there talking. And it's weird getting on there and just like setting up the camera and just talking about something because you're not talking to nobody. You know, but it's like, what is the message that I'm trying to put out and curating that and getting on there and actually watching backups and be like, dang, that was actually speaking some stuff on there. So I think just seeing that it's been good, but I think the most exciting part about it is like nothing, like very little funding from anybody on the outside. Being able to do all this self-funded, but then also see how many different directions this can go once we do get that next level. That's we can go because the thing I have for it is like we get to the point where because we do a live episode every week, and then we do one episode. One episode.

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Don't give them too much. We can give them the book for you. Come on, now I'm just gonna be able to do it. Yeah, we can give them some line.

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Like with one live episode a week, and then we drop one episode a week. So I guess when we'll drop it, and then we'll just do a lot, like one live episode every week, and that's just the current events or whatever it is.

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Just like a lot, we can we can always do live streams, we can always do interviews, we could travel, it's it's so much versus unfazed sports is so much pay, has its own like and if y'all not getting that, get that, man. Yes, get that, get that. So we got I love how the unfazed pod is just so verse, it's so like you said, it can go so many different ways. And we've showed y'all not only so many different ways with guest ideas, but locations. Yes, bro. We've never been stagnant. When we was in a position where we, oh dang, I can't get there to you. Well, okay, come on, let's go live. Let's go on camera. That's what I'm saying. Very much, like you said, limited funding, but self-funded. We didn't need too much to make this happen. We just needed brothers in the dream. Brothers in the dream, a little bit of drive.

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And if you don't know, this is getting shot on a phone. Come on, this is on an iPhone right now. So people say, oh, FaZe, that look is looking better. I see this on an iPhone still. I got I bought some new lighting. We got some new lighting and stuff going on here. We gotta talk about that. Hit me in the DMs if you want to know what lighting we got. But no, this is off the phone.

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Phone and a dream.

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Come on, phone and have a drink. One day. I'll be able to have an iPhone and two Negroes, and we'll be able to get on a podcast and talk about everything that they want to do and the things that they want to do. Stand up the phone.

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At the end of the day, man, it's just like you said, the the fact of the matter is we never let anything stop us standing our way. So that's why we are going to be successful. It's just inevitable. Like it's it's literally inevitable. And like you said, we did all this with self-funded and limited funding. So when funding is there, watch out. Everybody out there, shout out to Auto Podcast that's out there now. But just know we're gonna make some room. Y'all might y'all might have to get out the way.

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Come on. So we come full heads. I appreciate all the people who's been supporting us, like even thus far. People commenting, watching, subscribing, viewing every episode. I we love it. Interacting.

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Yes, you know what I'm saying? Like we could we couldn't do couldn't do this without them. Like we always say, we could not do without y'all. There would be no podcast. If it would just, I mean it would, but it would just be us watching the video. So we appreciate everybody watching.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but outside of that, man, I know a lot of stuff is going on in the world, and I can't bring real deal McNeil to the pot and not have some stuff that we're gonna talk about. But I know we've seen the NBA finals. Come on, man. Not the finals yet. Not the finals yet.

SPEAKER_06

The road to the finals.

SPEAKER_04

The road to the finals. The NBA's going crazy right now. And this is why I only watched the playoffs.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, before we go. Right, no, fact. I only watched the playoffs. Before we get into it, because before we even jump on our take on it, who are you going for? Was it okay to see you who had the Spurs?

SPEAKER_04

I had the Spurs for sure. I just there's Wemby that did it for me right there. Because I'm not really that tapped. I'm not a huge NBA fan. I know. Is it Shay or Shy? Shay Alexander, yeah, yeah. He's the MVP grade. I know a lot of people have mixed feelings on him, but like I just wasn't even tapped in with that team like that. Didn't know much about him. I see they be flopping and stuff like that. People getting mad at him. But Wemby was the like, I like that. He has that Kobe, that that young, that he's a killer, bro. I love that.

SPEAKER_06

That's I like the fact, first and foremost. I the first I like the memes. I like I like the entertainment's again. One thing I will say that this series did for the NBA, it got people watching again. Yes. It definitely did that, got people watching. It was funny, I seen a meme that said it's really Oklahoma City versus the United States Spurs.

SPEAKER_05

It's not even San Antonio Spurs, no. He's a United States.

SPEAKER_06

Everybody wanted the Spurs to win, and it's not because we don't like, you know, a two-peak dream. You know what I'm saying? We loved it when OKC was, you know, OKC. We loved it when the go-to say words dominate. We love it when San Antonio used to dominate back in there. We loved it when the Lakers were dominated. We loved it when, you know, the Heat was dominating and they had these franchise needs, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04

It's something about that group.

SPEAKER_06

But is it Oklahoma City? For one, it's the way they play basketball. I really don't like the way SGA plays ball. You know, like you said, that the flopping, you know, the tech, it's very soft basketball. And again, they've mastered it to a point where it works in their favor, where they can get the calls, they can get to the free throw lines, they can slow the game down. Yeah. But it's irritable to watch. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like when we see people talk about, and shout out to Shakur Stevenson. One of my favorite, but we see people talk about the way he boxes. I actually like watching it because it's technical.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But they say he runs a lot. They say he doesn't, you know, but he found a way to make it work for them. Yeah. In a I guess hypocritical statement. I like when it works for Shakur Stevenson, but I don't like, I don't like the fact that it works for OK Seagus. Because it sucks the fan fun out of the game. Like, yeah. But one thing I will say, and in again, I'm not a before y'all, oh y'all bandwagon, we are not Spurs fans whatsoever. I'm a greatness fan, though. It's right. I like great great players.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not seeing what he's doing. At 22. Come on now.

SPEAKER_06

One thing I will say about Wimby, though, we are gonna see. We got to see what he was made of, but we are going to see what he's made of in this finals. Now, I don't think the Knicks are uh, you know, good enough uh good enough caliber team to beat the Spurs in a series. However, if Wimby does not show up, because again, you've seen it game five, he was very fatigued versus OKC. He didn't have no legs. You should, there's no way you seven foot, seven foot two getting rim stuff because you're tired. You're not hustling back on D, but it's like, okay, you look at the Spurs like are y'all relying all on Wimby to carry this, you know, this dream of a season, or you know, and again, I'm not saying obviously, because I like number five on the Spurs. He's been balling. I can't think of his name or now. Don't hate me. I'm not a basketball fan. We got him right here. Right, we're gonna pull him up, we're gonna get to the name, because you know what I'm saying. Shout out to him, but he's been balling, he got hustled, he got heart. I've seen some lockdown defense, you know what I'm saying? Garden Shea, so very clean basketball.

SPEAKER_04

Steven Castle, Stefan Castle.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah. Shout out to him, man. He's doing his thing, but I definitely feel like the Spurs have an opportunity to do it. Yeah. Um, definitely. It's exciting, too. Definitely, definitely glad. Definitely glad though that the NBA's getting the hype that they need. Because you know the NBA was struggling. Yeah. Tickets wasn't selling, but that definitely helped us turn our heads back to turn TV on.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, not for sure. And if you even think about like the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl wasn't as it was kind of boring.

SPEAKER_06

The funny thing is the Super Bowl for me was the game before. Oh, what is it? The Rams versus uh that that Rams game. Yeah, bro. That that game leading into the Super Bowl was really like, okay, this is the I think it was the Rams Seahawks. Yes. The game that took to get to yeah, that that was my Super Bowl game. After that, it was the Super Bowl, it's kind of like uh shout out to the teams that made it, but and it's always always a good thing.

SPEAKER_04

We're just talking about as far like purely from like a fan watching and engaging. That's what we do. We we want to see the best games at all times, but sometimes it is a blowout, sometimes it is the boring game.

SPEAKER_06

That's just the I almost feel like the NBA, uh like if the Spurs come with it, I feel like the the finals is gonna be like that too.

SPEAKER_04

Spurs versus Knicks and I don't know uh because I haven't been watching and I didn't I didn't get to watch the Knicks that much, but I'm like to make it that far to be doing something right. So shout out to Jalen Brunson, and we're just looking at the stats right here. The Spurs are making their first NBA Finals appearance since 2014 when they defeated the Miami Heat and won their fifth championship.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. That's back when they had uh Mr. Fundamental and Tim Duncan coming. Shout out to Vic Duncan.

SPEAKER_04

And that's what it says here. The Knicks are making their first NBA Finals appearance since 1999, since I was born. I was born in '99.

SPEAKER_06

And they didn't have some great seasons, but not so shout out to them.

SPEAKER_04

Shout out to them. Very much shout out to them. That's a 27-year drought.

SPEAKER_06

That's the same thing. We've been getting a lot of firsts in the wilds because that's the same thing with uh the Indian Indiana uh shit. Indiana uh university and you know them winning that championship. Yeah. And in fact, the goal and win.

SPEAKER_04

Come on, go ahead and that's dope.

SPEAKER_06

Shout out to the Knicks, man. Hope they hope they do it.

SPEAKER_04

And the last time the Spurs and Knicks met in the finals was 1999. And with Mr. Tim Duncan.

SPEAKER_06

This is this is so this is a little revenge story. A little revenge. It means a little bit more. See, I've now split the.

SPEAKER_04

And the Spurs, the Spurs defeated the Knicks four to one. And it was the Spurs' first championship shit championship in franchise history. The finals MVP was Tim Duncan.

SPEAKER_06

Shout out to Timmy, man.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to Big Tim.

SPEAKER_06

He was on the team with some ghosts, though. He was. I don't know if Mono Ginobli was there yet, but I know that they had uh Tony Parker. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I wonder when they came in. Yeah, but I know.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but when they had Mono Genobli, Tony Parker, they had Kawhi Leonard at his young years, though.

SPEAKER_04

They showed Ginobli at the game, and I was like, oh my god, that just threw me back. I'm like, he was um I used to play with him all time.

SPEAKER_06

Come on, now hey, lefty. Come on now, off the bench with his six men going crazy. But yeah. Now that's crazy though. I did not know that. So it's really like, come on, get your lick back, Nick's. Like, y'all gotta get y'all lick back. Got it.

SPEAKER_04

Ain't no better time.

SPEAKER_06

Come on, for all the people who didn't do it last time.

SPEAKER_04

And the thing about the NBA too is like all these teams, like OKC is super young.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_04

Spurs are super young too. Yeah. You know what I mean? So these are some young teams. So these are some dynasties that could possibly be getting built right now.

SPEAKER_06

Come on now. Come on now.

SPEAKER_04

So we're gonna see what happened. Come on now.

SPEAKER_06

And speaking of a next week, we we we may come to the end of one. You know what I'm saying? With one. With with Braun. You know what I'm saying? The fact that, you know, he'd have been a part of some dynasties. Yeah. He's made a great legacy. Yes. But the fact of the matter is, like, because we're talking about young players, but we can't talk about the young players without the vets.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

And we got a lot of these guys aging out. And for those of y'all, I don't know, is this Braun's last run?

SPEAKER_04

Is this Braun's age?

SPEAKER_06

Is this Braun's last dance? Do we get that?

SPEAKER_04

It may be. The thing about it is that with LeBron, like, and at this point, when you're that type of athlete, like he's he looked, this look like one of his better years. Come on, right.

SPEAKER_06

It's like he's getting better. Like he's not getting older.

SPEAKER_04

Like he could this dude could actually play until he's 60. You know what I mean? If I see Braun in there. Like, oh you know what I would like though? I would like him to retire and then return. Come on, Jordan.

SPEAKER_06

That would be That'd be my thing to get keep him in the conversation.

SPEAKER_04

That would be different. Jordan did that. That would be different. But I know when you get off, when you stop. Come on now. Sometimes it's too much.

SPEAKER_06

You think he can ever be done, though? Like, even I mean, not right away, but like when you retire, you're never really just like done. You you still wake up cold sweat. Damn, we got weights. You know what I'm saying? Like you still think you gotta go to practice and you can't do it.

SPEAKER_04

It's hard to pay it, and you have to find that thing, like similar to like what Kobe was doing. It was like a transition into other things. The thing about LeBron is like you don't hear Michael about him doing anything else. No fact. The Roger will be at golf course.

SPEAKER_06

Roger be on that golf course.

SPEAKER_04

I can't see LeBron doing a Tom Brady and starting reporting, like Bro, we ain't trying to hear this.

SPEAKER_06

You never really heard him talk about basketball when he plays.

SPEAKER_04

And you know he's knows basketball, of course, but it's like you just don't see him because the greatest of all the time. Like Michael Jordan didn't do that. Michael Jordan's not going into On that golf course. On the golf course.

SPEAKER_06

He's gonna be on that golf course.

SPEAKER_04

That might be it.

SPEAKER_05

I can see Rod. God damn, that's a tall ass size.

SPEAKER_06

Size 18 on the course, 6'6. Yeah. That's gonna be a custom club.

SPEAKER_04

That's because that's definitely a custom club. Definitely a custom club.

SPEAKER_06

Six foot clubs.

SPEAKER_04

We want to shout out to like LeBron. Like, I don't know if he's retiring or anything, so when he does retire, we can even come back and do another episode just on that when we figure that out. But like legendary player, definitely a GOAT in the eyes of everybody to be able to go through so much hate and animosity and so much crazy stuff. But I think the most important thing I want to touch on is the fact that you are in the playoffs playing with your son. No, that's dope. You're in the playoffs playing with your son.

SPEAKER_06

Has there ever been another because there's been father-sons duels in I don't even know what to do? I don't even know that. No.

SPEAKER_04

And I remember watching too when they said, like, this is the first for sure. That's dope.

SPEAKER_06

But like that's and all the hate that they put on Bronny and all the, you know what I'm saying? Like they did, they discouraged him, they put his name down. He really was the Shador of basketball. Who was? Bronny.

SPEAKER_04

He was.

SPEAKER_06

But the only thing is, Shador had the talent. I'm gonna be rude. Shador had the talent and was ready to play now. Bronny, he did need still to develop. But the difference is a lot of people threw dirt on his name. And whether he's dropping the big numbers that y'all want him to see or not, he still made it to the league. Whether y'all say it's off the credit of his dad, he's still in there doing it, you know what I'm saying? And he's still able to make plays. And the fact that he and his dad are gonna be able to share a moment. Because it's bigger. At some point in time for the for the James family, it becomes bigger than basketball. Like we're doing something that, you know, we only we talk, we like what we talked about this day. Yes. And to be able to live it, to be able to do it in the playoffs. Yes, and I'll be able to do it.

SPEAKER_04

That's dope.

SPEAKER_06

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_04

And he's good.

SPEAKER_06

He's gonna, I promise you, he's gonna be in the league after the game.

SPEAKER_04

He's good enough to be in the NBA. I think he's shown that even if it's in the G League, moving around back and forth, whatever it is, he's good enough to be in the NBA. And that was the great practice. That's the most if there's any nepotism going on, I want to see it like that. That's good.

SPEAKER_06

And not to compare him to, I'm not trying to say he's as good as any of these players, I'm gonna say, but a lot of great players were six men, and there's a lot of great players that come off the bench. Like James Hardy used to be a six-man. We just mentioned Mono Ginobli coming off the bench. So there's a lot of great six men and people who, you know what I'm saying, rotate in and develop exactly. So who knows what Bronny's story is gonna be, you know what I'm saying? But I definitely am excited to see him play. I don't know. I'll be watching him when I'll be. I'll be watching him. When he played, I'm like, okay, because I'll be hoping like Bonnie, just do something. Make something happen, bro. All right, do something. Yeah. I think he's still trying to just come into his his own, like, you know, because again, his dad is still, that still is a big shadow that is cast.

SPEAKER_03

It's a lot of pressure.

SPEAKER_06

You are LeBron James Son, one of the best, if the not the best to ever do it.

SPEAKER_03

It's a lot of pressure. Ain't nobody playing today 50. It's a lot of pressure, bro. Not 50. Ain't nobody playing.

SPEAKER_04

And one thing that I noticed too, it was like just in the world we live in, like, how everybody's on their phones, and everybody, I was watching a concert, and it was like um Jay the I don't know if you've seen the new Jay-Z thing when Jay-Z was out there and he was freestyling, talking about whatever. I don't know. But everybody had their phones on, they was recording them. I remember I went to see LeBron like this past year. I don't even know how I even got it. One of my bros in Chicago worked for the Bulls. I seen the Bulls versus the Lakers, so I got to see LeBron play for the first time ever. Looks crazy. Right. But I also seen Wemby. Crazy live. But back to LeBron, everybody has everybody, there's like a full stadium, and everybody's like looking at him. Like, and just have that many people, it's like 20,000 people just looking at you, focused on you. Every single move, you're the most famous person in this building right now. Everybody just has their phone on you all times. I'm like, that's a lot of pressure. Very much. And then Bronny, just so young, stepped right into that. I'm like, that's amazing. Just to be able to have the career LeBron didn't do that. But now Bronny's stepping in. I know it's a lot of pressure, but it's like, it's it's a tough situation, but he's he's doing it. He's doing it, man.

SPEAKER_06

Making it work for him. And again, I only got good things to say and wish the best. I'm never gonna ever, you know, shit on anybody or rent on their pregnancy. Despite of what they feel about, like you say, he made it to the NBA. I'm hoping and curious if his brother makes it, because again, once his dad goes, his brother coming. So that'd be that'd be super, super dope. That would be cool.

SPEAKER_04

So Brian could stay and just come with it on that. I come what are you doing?

SPEAKER_06

Right, hurry up.

SPEAKER_04

We need to get the league, man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, bro. But that was good. So good to see that. And then even outside of the NBA, a lot of other stuff's been going on too. It's been getting a lot of other stuff. It's been getting high, a lot of a lot of other stuff. And we won't have to talk about a lot. We won't got time for all of it. Right. It's a lot. Part two. But to be continued. The Kevin Hart roast. I have to talk. We have to talk about that because this is such a, and especially as we're getting into that space. Like we don't gotta say too much, but it's like we're trying to get into a space of comedy, of acting, into that space. Not necessarily Hollywood, but it's like we have some creative energy that we could put out to the world and be able to do that. So the Kevin Hart role show. I know there was a lot of flack that was been hitting Kevin Hart in the comments. Talking about it, how it's not really on him, it's not his fault. But the main thing is I'll play the video. I don't know if it's gonna let us strike it down. If not, I'll just say what they said. But we got the George Floyd joke. Before you even play that, too.

SPEAKER_06

Off of what you just said, Kevin Hart defending himself is not on him. Let's not let's not fail to forget. For those of you guys who know what these celebrity roast series are and sessions are, let's not fail to forget. This is not the first one. It's not the first crazy one, it's not the first racist one. They've done this year after year after year. Ironically enough, Cat Williams talked about it when he was on Favorite Flaves roast years ago on his early comedy days. So this been this way, but I feel like it's always people looking for you know something to throw dirt on somebody's name. When they when you're at the pinnacle at the top, when you're the when you're one of the greatest persons, they're always trying to how can we put him in a negative spotlight? Because negativity sells. So while they're trying to throw dirt on Kevin Hart's name and make it seem like, oh, he is, you know, the person who He let this happen. Why didn't you at the end of the day, when it when it's everybody else? And again, let's not forget, he's not writing everybody's roast. A lot of the original comedians, they're coming up with their own stuff, their own material. Like Cat Williams literally is the one that talks about it. And we'll get more onto Cat Williams and re and relations to the roast. Yeah. But yeah, definitely just want to kind of lead off with that because a lot of people, Kevin Hart only had his hands in so much in this.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. Exactly. Now, so the first joke that everybody was talking about was a Tony Hems clip joke. I'm gonna play it right now and see, and we could talk about it. Let's see.

SPEAKER_01

Kevin, they told me not to mention your kids on this roast, but I must say. God bless you, Kevin. God bless this real and God bless the United States of America.

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Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. So before we speak on that, I haven't seen the whole thing yet. Yes. Like you said earlier, that is a three-hour long joint.

SPEAKER_04

But just first reaction to that video, no you think.

SPEAKER_06

First reaction to it, definitely was kind of it was it was cringy to hear. It was very tough to kind of hear because you the stomach it, like, dang, okay. One would perceive it as making fun of someone's death. Others may perceive it pretty much as dark humor. And again, when you watch the roasts, it's always a lot of dark humor in these roasts. Yes. So on the stage and platform that it happened on, cool. You know what I'm saying? And again, I don't think he may, and again, who's to say he wrote that for himself? A lot of them did not write a lot of the original comedians, they write their own jokes.

SPEAKER_04

That's that's he's known. This guy tells me he's known for dark jokes and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_06

But I'm just saying in general though. In general, yes. But at the same time, to hear for the first time, you're kind of it it doesn't, you it doesn't digest easy. Yes. But then a part of me, you know, you kind of gotta loosen up. And the reason why I say loosen up is a the issue with comedy nowadays, and I'll speak on this um before you know what I'm saying. You say, but the issue with comedy nowadays, we're censoring too much. We're censoring way too much when it comes to comedy. Comedy's supposed to be that freedom. A lot of comedians say this all the time. There used to be a time where if you go back and watch the 90s Def Jams and all that stuff, comedy was raw.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

Very raw. It was uncensored, you didn't really have to filter or watch what you were saying. You could you could talk about, you know, the LGBTQ community and not have to worry about getting cancelled.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

You can speak, you know, saying crazy on, you know, pedophilia. And again, it's not like we're making light of a bad situation, but at the same time, we're, you know, some some people enjoy dark humor, and some people are expressive, and it's an art form to them in order to get their message across.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, they're not gonna listen to me when I'm just trying to preach at you. Okay, but if I can deliver the way I feel about something in a certain situation, and I'm not saying he felt positive about that, but you know, just bringing attention to certain situations. So I just feel like we are very sensitive in this day and age now. I agree. And we kind of it's hard to get back to it when everybody's telling you you should have your own opinion about something. Yes. And everybody's so wrapped up into the way this person feels and this person feels instead of hey, it's comedy, it was a joke. Yes. You know, laugh and let it go. You know, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't need to be made a big thing, you know. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

And I think for this roast, for this platform, exactly what you said, this is what a roast is. Sorry to people who don't know, but if you watch this joke, right, and you're watching this, this is what you're watching it for. You know that some racist, some crazy jokes are gonna come out. And then in the comedian's mind, when they're writing the jokes, they're trying to write jokes that push the envelope, that push the level. So you can't get mad at them because you don't have to watch it, you don't have to consume it. The only thing is that off this platform, people are gonna take the clips, people are gonna take it, they're gonna put it on social media, now other people just see it out of context of a roche. Oh, this guy just got up there and said that, and now everyone's getting mad.

SPEAKER_06

Now he's anti-Semitic, or now he's racist, or now he's this and that.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. If you don't like it, you don't watch it. If you don't like him, don't watch him, don't support him.

SPEAKER_06

If if he did this not on the platform, and he did this just on Twitter or he did say he said X, Y, Z, then yeah, we're gonna understand, okay, bro, that was uncalled for. Like, you know what I'm saying? This is not the time and the place, but there's a time and place for everything, and that was the time and place for it. That was time.

SPEAKER_04

And then, but I would but I will say this. I do think Tony Henchcliffe, the guy that said that joke, he had one of the best sets of the night. And out, I just I also do not let me say that again. I think Tony Henchcliffe had one of the best sets of the night. I do not think that joke was funny. And I think for that, I think when you do a joke like that, I'm not mad at him for doing the joke and trying to push the envelope. In my personal perspective, hearing that joke, I was like, like, I think you could have made it funnier. Like it felt like it was I felt like don't just give me something racist to be racist. Like, okay, like don't give me a racist joke. Give me something good. You know what I mean? But it's like, but it's like for real. I just didn't like it was like, okay, I'm gonna just write this down because I'm gonna try to get a racist joke off, and boom, oh, George Floyd, I can't breathe. Ah, it's funny. I'm gonna shock you crowd. Rather, the shock comedy rather than okay, actually creating and writing a good joke. And could I have wrote a better joke about probably not, but I'm just saying, in my personal experience, hearing that, it wasn't the funniest joke. I wish you could have wrote that a little better. And he stumbled on a little bit so it didn't even come out.

SPEAKER_06

He he honestly, because of what cancel culture and because of what, you know what I'm saying, everything is, I feel like a part of him was not even as racist as you say, because I'm not I've never been watching like that, but even as racist, you might have said a part of him kind of almost, I feel like, with the delivery, feel like am I the is this over the top? I don't know how they don't feel so. I don't think he was.

SPEAKER_04

I don't think he was, but I think God was like, I don't make you stumble on this just to so the black people could get on you. It's Tony, we getting on you, man. You had a better joke, man. I don't like that, man. It's too racist, man. But no, I don't I don't even care. That was it, he had one of the best.

SPEAKER_06

Because respectfully, that's the other thing too. And uh uh a part of me doesn't feel like the joke was okay, no, no, let me not say that. It probably was intended to be somewhat racist for you know saying in the case. But at the same time, a part of me also when you think about because again, it very much could have been the same delivery, the same situation with Charlie Kirk. Because I think some people did do some Charlie Coke Charlie Kirk jokes and Scotty Twin Zoom.

SPEAKER_04

Boom, got one point.

SPEAKER_06

Let's let's get to it.

SPEAKER_04

Charlie Kirk joke, let's see.

SPEAKER_06

And before we play it, who delivered this reminds me of it? Pete Davidson.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, yeah, he's definitely been on camera letting a restart. Tony reminds me of Charlie Kirk. And that he's definitely been on camera letting a guy unload in his throat. Oh, y'all don't know me? Tony reminds me of it.

SPEAKER_06

Now this is my thing though.

SPEAKER_07

And that he's definitely that I could consume.

SPEAKER_06

It was still a dark humor.

SPEAKER_04

Still dark humor.

SPEAKER_06

But on reason why I can escape and the same reason why you probably consume that first one a little bit better than most, because we know Pete Davidson for being that.

SPEAKER_04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06

The same reason. I actually don't. Pete Davidson is like that.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't, I actually don't know. I don't, I'm not, no, I don't know too much.

SPEAKER_06

He's a troll, he's very, very like, you know, cringy, very much. You're like me. You're not me. So right. And he's like, oh, y'all don't know that this is what I do. Like, so you better buckle in. Like, tuck, tuck your ass, because yeah, I'm gonna give it to you like that. But you know what I'm saying? Um, at the end of the day, that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, Pete's gonna say something crazy. And again, because I didn't know the other dude like that, maybe that's but again, his jokes leading into it was funny. Again, that joke also was just the only joke we showed.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It could have been taken out. Pete could have had a set that killed too.

SPEAKER_04

He had a pretty good set as well.

SPEAKER_06

But again, it's like when you're when it comes to roast, you either gotta know how to deliver a roast punchline or have that dark humor like that to where your eye, you're catching people because you're like, oh, oh, every crowd, oh, oh, as long as the crowd is reacting, you're doing your damn job.

SPEAKER_04

He's doing the job. You know what I'm saying? So and my thing about it too, uh, that one pushed the envelope. But I'm also not I'm not mad at him. I'm not about to comment and do it, I'm not about to get mad because this was a roast. This is what you said, you know him for this. I don't know him for that, but I just seen him like, ah, yeah, that was pushing a little bit, but I know what I'm here for. I know what I'm I'm here and seeing you.

SPEAKER_06

Now if he says that again, if he's somebody who said, which again he probably would, but if he's somebody who said that on Twitter, uncalled for, then it starts okay, you really don't fuck with Charlie Kirk, or you really don't like this person, or you really don't feel this way about this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, or you just a dickhead. But again, let's not forget, we got a dickhead in the White House, you know what I'm saying, with all due respect, but you know what I'm saying, we don't watch him do goofy shit like this on the daily, and again, like we keep saying this is the platform for it. But again, when when y'all was uh watching him post the stuff about the you know Obamas and you know what I'm saying, and and the and the the videos and acting like oh, but this is just random, those are random occurrences.

SPEAKER_04

And the thing is, and the thing about that too, like even like touching on that a little bit is like this guy that we're talking about that's in office, this is what he lives at. He he's an entertainer. Yeah, so this is like this is this is what y'all get for this is what we get because it's all of us, but it's like living in a world that we live in where we put that type of person in office in the first place, because this is where he's come he's an entertainer, he's gonna get in there entertain. Whoever's pulling the strings for real, who knows? But it's like this where he's an entertainer, this is where all this is coming from. Like this is just entertainment, and this you don't like this form of entertainment.

SPEAKER_06

Y'all, I know I'm getting off subject.

SPEAKER_04

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06

But as dark as y'all may have felt, if these niggas did a roast of Donald Trump, you know how crazy the joke's crazy. Oh my god. We would break the internet. If y'all can't handle or stomach this stuff, yeah, the internet would be broken. Yes. But again, in a in a in a in a more enlightened and positive note. I don't know if you had anything else more to show. In a more enlightened and positive note, there was some positivity from the you know from the roast.

SPEAKER_04

Freaking Cheryl Underwood.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my god, this is the best set. Right. In addition to, you know, the comedians that came and killed, the thing that I focused the most on there, because there's a lot of controversy around these two great talents of comedians. These two great the where it started, where it continued, and where it finished. At the end of the day, I am, I mean, I commend and I sh shout out these two greats, especially coming from the black community, Kat Williams and Kevin Hart, for standing like men out of all the beef, the drama, all the, you know, everything that we kind of endured, you know what I'm saying, and watch two great people instead of you know continuing to break each other down, mean that, you know what I'm saying, and I'm not saying these guys are gonna be best friends or best buds to be, but to be able to use that platform to squash the beef, you know what I'm saying, and then be, you know what I'm saying, in a position where, hey, I can give you your flowers, you can give me mine, and now we can really get that out the way, and now we can continue to elevate to where because I a part of me felt like that was holding Kat back for a long time. Like a part of me felt like the beef between them, because Kevin Hart was already here. And Kat William used to be there, and he's getting back to here, but he's not gonna ever be able to fully get there until he starts letting some of these demons or some of these beef go that he was holding to. So the fact that he was able to do that, I feel like it's finna catapult Kat to the top. Like he he's already, you know what I'm saying, been coming back out of the shadows because again, obviously he was the great, one of the greats when he first hit the scene. Then he had all the controversy behind his name. Then he tried to come back, you know what I'm saying? He's been making a comeback, but now I feel like with that right there alone, doing it on a platform, gave him a lot of respect. Yes, a lot, and again, it's not like I watched somebody else speak on it. It's not that he was apologetic to Kevin Hart. He didn't go up there and apologize, he stood on what he meant, yeah, but then they go back to the city.

SPEAKER_04

How much does it really matter what? So why can't we still collab, build, help one each other out? And just like I think there needs to be a platform, especially, I can only speak for the black community right now, but it's like a platform where we are collaborating more and building each other up more. I think a lot of times, even you even see more recently, like with Drake and then Jay-Z out performing a freestyle of, oh, talking about Drake and all these people, but it's like, man, these are most successful artists in the black community. And it's like they have beef and they have drama, where it's like, man, these need to be, and we are human. I'm not saying when nobody's gonna beef with everybody and everybody's gonna get along, but it's like I would love to see like more like I would no bee's like just collaboration and love and every day.

SPEAKER_06

If the black community come together just on a natural, yeah, boy, watch out world.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and I think even that, and I'm not even saying don't beef because uh everybody's not gonna get along with everybody, but I'd like to see how can we in our community try to promote more positivity within that so because they we know they're gonna show us that the media is gonna take all the negativity in the world and sell it to the black people because that's what we want. That's what we want. But if we as another way for them to use the twist, come together and say, okay, we're we aren't gonna push positivity. Where every time we do something positive, let's talk about it. Hey, I love you, brother. I love you, doing good, and let me help you out here. A lot more of that that we can organically push out to each other that we're not doing, I feel like.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, no, unfaced pod. That's what that's what we built, built this platform for. So that's what we built it for. The best thing, and again, my while the while the mention of Drake, and again, not to continue to switch gears, but while the mention of Drake, yeah. Now shout out to Drake, man. Yeah. And saying, again, I'm glad, I'm glad he did his thing, you know what I'm saying. He dropped he dropped a couple albums. I don't necessarily like all three. But shout out, you know what I'm saying, to the projects, you know, being, I know I know a lot of people are saying he dropped them to get from underneath the contract he was under. So and I almost got a curious to see what's next for OBO. What's next for OBO? So shout out to Drake, shout out to Shibang. You know what I'm saying? Iceman. Again, I ain't gonna lie, shebang. I'm I'm gonna run that, they're gonna run that goddamn song into the ground this summer. So it's already on my nerves, but facts.

SPEAKER_04

And the only thing, the only thing, man, I don't have much to say about Drake because I don't know much about the music industry, but like one of like when I say goat, there's many goats. You know what I mean? He's the greatest of all time. He's he's definitely one of the goats. You can look at the numbers, forget the numbers. You look at like just being able to longevity, you think about Braun, longevity, you think about all this stuff that put LeBron Drake? Yeah, let's let's not, yeah, let's not forget how long this dude has been doing. Come on now. Like this.

SPEAKER_05

He's no soldier boy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he's not the first.

SPEAKER_05

I'm playing like too. No, no, that's a fact though. He's not the first to ever do that, everything. Yeah, you know, soldier gonna see this like Drake.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like come on. But no, it is just good. He's a goat. He he's a goat. And I think um all these people and everything that we talked about from the roles to the playoffs, it is all like it's it's motivational to see, it's inspiring to see because a lot of times you don't wanna lock in on like, okay, you're watching TV all the time. You watching oh, NBA final, because we got stuff that we gotta handle and we gotta take care of. But I'm like, when you see stuff like that and it's positive, that's the stuff that inspires you. That's what life is about. That's the stuff that brings you closer to God. Like, so being able to have Kevin Hart and Kevin Hart's been on the rind. Shout out to Kevin Man. I don't know, like I don't know if any of like they used to call him the hardest working man in Hollywood. Like, I don't know if this dude ever stops or whatever it is. So it's motivating to see him and everything that he does. I'm watching it. I'm watching everything that is going on in NBA Finals that the Bra Braun, anything, it's it's motivational, man. So shout out to all these people.

SPEAKER_06

The last things I'll say, yeah, you know what I'm saying, because it's just on my mind right now. Talk to her. When it comes to this is my challenge for everybody watching, anybody who sees this, like you said a few times today in this pod, we all are so consumed by our phones. And I've seen something recently when it comes to our phone, we're so consumed by our phones that you know we don't get to really sometimes hone in on the moment. We miss the moment a lot. Yes, you know, because we're trying to capture the moment just so we can continue to relive it. Or we try to, you know what I'm saying, live through a moment through somebody else capturing it, you know what I'm saying? And I think I think back to a day again that I wasn't even alive for, but when you think back into a day and time before phone, before you know the cameras and everything like that, people really enjoy life. You know what I'm saying? So I guess my challenge to you guys again, because we're here to motivate this summer, the rest of this year, if you know, if you get an opportunity when you're amongst like family, friends, or just you know, like-minded people, and really just you know, uh put take a top take an opportunity to put the phone down for a second. Really just breathe that air, breathe that moment in, and really lock in because the time that you're spending with people you love, cherish it. Tomorrow's not promised. And at the end of the day, if you do live to see tomorrow, enjoy the moment. Enjoy the moment, enjoy the moment, enjoy the moment. Just you know, just live in it because I feel like a lot of us are missing what is right in front of us, the things that really truly matter, because we're trying to keep up with the technology.

SPEAKER_04

So, yes, and I and I I definitely would like to end on that if I didn't have one more thing to say. No, definitely.

SPEAKER_03

That was good.

SPEAKER_06

That was good.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, that was good. One thing I do want to say about this summer, because you're talking about this summer and how we can kind of end it, is like this summer is gonna be there's like three to six, three months of like nice weather, wherever depending on where you're at, right? Use this summer as a way to also do that and like get off of the phone and kind of really figure out what life is actually supposed to be and what it's meant to you. On a purpose, but also, man, like for all the transitional achievers out there, like, yeah, summer's coming up, yeah, it's weather's good, yeah, everybody's outside, yeah, there's parties going on, but it's like yeah, you got a plan. There was a plan that we talked about when we was going through the 30-day unphase. There's a plan we talked about when I did the solo episodes. I talk about it on almost every episode, but it's like you have a plan. And if you've been watching this podcast, you have written down a plan. You know where you're trying to get to. And these three months are critical in you being able to get there. So, as fun as this summer could be, you could also lock in this summer. You could also get a lot of stuff done in these next six months of this year. Your whole life can be completely different. So it's all good to have fun, but the summer could be. I'm all like, you know, we could die at any time. But it's like you might get another summer, but you'll never get an opportunity to really lock in. The more you keep postponing this lock in, the harder it's gonna be for you to get out of that slump. So for the people trying to transition and achieve to the next thing, this summer is that time. Right now is that time. So lock in.

SPEAKER_06

Yes, hone it. Hone it. Blueprint, blueprint, just do it.

SPEAKER_04

Just do it, keep moving. And what else? Keep grooving, keep grooving.

SPEAKER_06

Keep talking now, but for real. Lock in, live in the moment. Uh-huh. If you have a blueprint or a plan, just do it. Take full advantage. This is the opportunity, don't waste no more time. Because again, like he said, you might not get another summer, but if you do, wouldn't you like to be a a lot further ahead than you were if you would have just did it?

SPEAKER_03

So stay unfazed.

SPEAKER_00

I'm unfazed. I'm unfazed. I'm on face, Jeffin's take this paper on my face.

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