Finding Calm in Chaos: Mindful Practices for Wedding Professionals

After leaving behind the badge and the pressures of police work, Hayley Robinson found solace in yoga, transforming her career into one of healing and stress management. Join us as Hayley shares her compelling story and expertise, revealing how yoga became her sanctuary and solution for dealing with stress, especially for those affected by PTSD. Her unique journey into the world of weddings uncovers how she applies her skills in high-pressure environments, and her partnership with Ben adds an intriguing dynamic to the wedding industry's hidden challenges. Hayley's insights offer valuable lessons for anyone in demanding professions looking to find balance and peace.

Explore with us the fascinating ways the body stores and releases stress, including the intriguing concept of the "stress triangle" and the surprising emotional releases found through yoga. We introduce practical techniques like deep breathing and playful stress-shaking inspired by animals, proving that stress relief can be both effective and accessible. The benefits of mindful relaxation and tailored strategies to quell a busy mind are discussed, debunking myths and highlighting yoga's core advantages beyond stereotypes. Discover how moments of stillness can boost productivity and wellbeing, with personal stories offering relatable and diverse methods for finding calm.

Find out more about Hayley: www.hayleyrobinson.com.au

Chapters

• 0:00 Managing Stress in the Wedding Industry
• 13:11 Managing Stress Through Physical Techniques
• 22:58 The Benefits of Mindful Relaxation

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:28

We are now on episode two of season three of Wedding Empires. Benjamin, always a pleasure.

Speaker 2: 0:35

Oh, Benjamin, I'm in trouble already. We're one episode deep and I'm in trouble already.

Speaker 1: 0:40

We're well past that. We have a very, very special guest today. I'm very excited about this one because this lady knows you very well.

Speaker 2: 0:52

She does know a lot about me, more than probably anybody else.

Speaker 1: 0:56

Oh yeah. How many years has this lovely lady known you? Four, four years, mm, and she puts up with all your madness. I know, and. I haven't been murdered and buried yet, so we're doing well, yeah, so she must be very special and she must be very good at handling stress. Get out the reason I say that. You know, of course it's yet another cheesy segue. So, hayley Robinson, it's so nice to finally meet you, and it's nice to meet you too. Welcome to our little podcast.

Speaker 1: 1:30

Now you know what he actually goes off and does when he comes up welcome to the couch um, yeah, so uh, we've been dying to get you on because you you're an expert in in, you know, reducing stress and helping other people reduce stress in their life, and being in the wedding industry and being at weddings is damn stressful at times so, as she found out, yesterday, actually, yeah, helping me at a wedding we'll have to cover that because, yeah, I'm sure you've got, is damn stressful at times, as she found out yesterday actually, yeah, helping me at a wedding.

Speaker 1: 1:58

We'll have to cover that because, yeah, I'm sure you've got some firsthand insight.

Speaker 2: 1:59

Yeah, an expert at managing me.

Speaker 1: 2:01

Yeah, wow, okay. Well, look, why don't we kick it off with you two having a little bit of a chat, right?

Speaker 2: 2:12

I'm sure there's a bit of an intro you could do about your lovely partner, hi Hayley. Hi, you come here often, so it's been ages since I've spoken to you. How are you doing?

Speaker 3: 2:20

I'm fantastic. How are you?

Speaker 2: 2:22

It's good. It's been a long drive here in the car, hasn't it? Oh, yes, yes, it's half an hour since we've spoken. Thank you so much for joining us today. You so much for joining us today. We're both very excited to have you here. Can you tell us a little bit about?

Speaker 3: 2:40

you. So how did this journey of what you do come about? So I'm a former police officer and during my time as a police officer, I would often practice yoga to help me sort of manage the stress and everything I had to deal with on a daily basis as part of the job, and I just found I felt so much better every time that I practiced yoga. And then I decided to become a qualified yoga instructor and went through and did my level one teacher training, and then, not long after that, I left the police. I had to resign based on medical reason, for medical reasons.

Speaker 3: 3:21

So then after that, I just continued teaching yoga and then I started working with co-workers from the QPS who were experiencing PTSD, and I started noticing the profound difference in them when I between pre-session and post-session, and how much more calm and relaxed they appeared.

Speaker 3: 3:45

And I just started like the more I practiced with them, the more I began to notice the stress reduction and their ability to manage and regulate themselves started to increase um, and so that was back uh 2018, and so just, I've been teaching yoga on and off since then, and now I teach therapeutic yoga with um people who are trauma psychosocial recovery people and, yeah, I noticed a huge difference in the long-term clients that I have there as well, and I also now teach and help people in sort of more from a business aspect help manage their stress using the principles of yoga and bringing that into their daily life and how they can find little hacks and tips and tricks and everything like that to bring into their daily life to negate the effects of stress I need you in my life, not just, not seriously, though this is.

Speaker 1: 4:44

This is something that will probably come to a shock to a lot of people that know me and know me through the wedding academy and whatnot. But I have complex, complex PTSD, and which you know to explain very quickly is PTSD is quite often a one singular traumatic event, whereas complex PTSD is many, many over a prolonged period of time, and in my case it was 35 years, and it means that I go from zero to 100 very quickly and up until knowing what it was and getting treatment, I was sitting at probably 80 out of 100 just permanently in my life every day. And so throwing a stressful wedding on top of that, working as a wedding planner yeah, I really need you, like about five years too late.

Speaker 2: 5:35

And if I can add the idiot spin to that, just a disclaimer to say that wasn't me that caused that complex.

Speaker 1: 5:42

PTSD yeah, it was before you it was well before me everyone. I had to up my medication once we met. No, that's not true, Anyway. No, I just I did not know that about you. I knew that, um, you know that you help people deal with stress, but you've obviously got that, that knowledge as well about PTSD and how the connection there, Um, so was yesterday your first time working with Ben on a wedding, or have you done it before?

Speaker 3: 6:09

No, I've done it before.

Speaker 1: 6:10

And how it, it's.

Speaker 3: 6:12

It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun because it just throws in, um, yeah, a bit of something different to do in, so it doesn't keep life. What's your role when you do this? I'm the assistant I hold. I hold flashes, I pass bits and pieces, get lenses out of the bag, put things back and all that kind of stuff, and hayley hayley does take photos too.

Speaker 2: 6:34

Oh, so I'll set her up with a camera and she'll do her thing and I'll sort of tell her, say, I want a reaction of the groom when the bride walks down the aisle or something, and I'll kind of give her a job and she will do that job.

Speaker 1: 6:47

She'll nail it. Yeah, yeah, okay, awesome. So I'm sure going to these weddings and seeing what he does firsthand, you'd have some ideas around how people get stressed in those moments and there's a lot to juggle and things can go wrong and you've got to keep a clear mind and deal with those things. Have you got any kind of obvious, obvious tips? Maybe, I don't know, like would it be. Is there things that we could do as a professional before the event to to help prevent you know, and to keep us calm? Or is there things that we could do as a wedding professional before the event to help prevent you know, and to keep us calm? Or is there things that we could do during the event to sort of help equalize, if that's?

Speaker 3: 7:24

the right word. Well, yeah, like knowing firsthand, like working with Ben, I know exactly how it can be and so I can relate 100%. So, first and foremost, breath coming back to your breath is the number one thing that you can control right then and there, because there's so many different variables. You've got a stressed out bride, you've got makeup artists coming in and out, you've got the hair and makeup. You've got all the bridesmaids, everyone trying to come in and talk to the bride. When you're trying to take photos of the bride, um, or like in saying a wedding planning thing, you've got the bride. When you're trying to take photos of the bride, um, or like in saying a wedding planning thing, you've got the bride bringing up. You've got some disaster happening, or they're changing venues, or and something like that. So there's so many different variables happening. But the one thing that you can always control is your breath, and so when you take a slow, deep inhale in deep down into the lower part of the belly, you're activating through something called the diaphragm.

Speaker 3: 8:17

The diaphragmatic muscle sits at the base of the lungs. It's sort of like a plate-shaped muscle, and so when you activate that diaphragmatic muscle muscle, it starts to pull the lungs down. So the lungs are the lungs themselves don't actually work, they they just sit there. It's like an accordion. So when you get the accordion you actually have to pull the accordion open and it forms a negative pressure inside the lungs which draws the air in. And so when you're activating that diaphragmatic muscle it's pulling the lungs down, increasing the volume of the lungs and increasing that capacity. But through the activation of that diaphragmatic muscle you're activating something called the vagal nerve. And now the vagal nerve is then activate, something called the relaxation response.

Speaker 3: 9:09

So everyone's probably heard the stress response and the flight which is the flight of fight response. No, well, but then you've got the relaxation response, which is um, um, which helps bring the body back down into a calm, relaxed state. So every time you take a slow, deep inhale right down to that lower part of the belly, filling the lungs completely, you're starting to therefore activate that relaxation response in the body, which is then going to start to calm the body down. A really, really good one that I always find um is very quick at regulating.

Speaker 3: 9:45

The nervous system is taking a deep breath in until you're 80 full and then taking a remainder 20 full and then just slowly exhale out, just let it just melt out of the body and do that three times and that's a really, really quick way of just bringing you back into the moment. Because when you've got so much going on in such a high, fast-paced environment, you become dysregulated very, very quickly because there's so much stimulation, there's so much everything to think about. But taking that slow, deep inhale just allows the body to reset itself momentarily and then you can go right. What's important now? What do I need to do in this moment to manage this situation or keep myself going through the rest of this day?

Speaker 1: 10:34

Sorry, another one my therapist taught me and we've tried lots of things to sort of take me from 100 and calm me down, yeah, but one that works for me is think about something you can see, something you can hear, something you can smell. Yeah, I think. What's the other one? Something you taste, um take, yeah, and it, and it just seems to distract you and and give you something to think about and, and against your own will. It distracts you and it seems to calm.

Speaker 3: 11:01

What that's doing is it brings you back into the logical brain. So you've got like your emotional brain, which is where all the emotions happen, it's where you start to get dysregulated. Everything's all heightened. But then when you give yourself something logical to think about, like a complex math, math equation, the five things that you can see, four things that you can smell, and everything like that it starts the brain thinking oh okay, what can, what am I able to process, what can I observe, what can I um, do, like it. Just it takes the attention away from that emotional centre and then starts to bring you back into a more calm, relaxed state because it's using a different part of the brain.

Speaker 3: 11:45

Another really good one that I always but you can't really do in the moment, when you're, I'll say, on the job but at home, to negate the effects of everything that's happened throughout the day, is focus on doing things that are going to release oxytocin, because oxytocin is going to then help to negate the effects of cortisol, which is the stress, the stress hormone. Oxytocin is known as, like the hugging hormone or the love hormone. So you always hear about when a mother has a as a baby and they have that oxytocin release, that initial cuddle, and they get that really strong bond. To begin with it's because there's a huge dump of oxytocin. So you can sort of recreate that by giving somebody a hug, like when your kids or a partner or something like that, coming home and it's got to be about 20 seconds to get that dump of oxytocin released into the system, um, hopping into a nice warm bath. Because that sort of mimics that, that hug, that warm, that closeness and that feeling of safety, um, and it will help to bring you back down into the more calm, relaxed state. So if you yeah, it's if you okay, if you can't always take away the stress of the day or of the job, but you can always come home and do something to counteract that.

Speaker 3: 13:12

And then also, too, what happens is we tend to store a lot of stress in our body. And then also, too, what happens is we tend to store a lot of stress in our body, so we'll particularly the stress triangle. So we've got. So the base of our skull down through the neck through to the shoulders, is something referred to as the stress triangle, and so if you think you're stressed, you start to tighten up through the neck, and it's a typical sign like oh, I'm so stressed, my neck's really stiff and tight, my shoulders are tight because we hold a lot of stress in our um, in our shoulders, in that stress triangle, excuse me and also the hips.

Speaker 3: 13:45

The amount of times that I've had people in deep hip opening exercises and they've bursted into tears because they're like I don't even know why I'm crying, like I don't know where this has come from it. It's because there's an emotional centre in the hip area and so when they're in long, slow holds and deep stretching in through the hip area, they start to release through sort of the subconscious, start to release all the emotions, and you don't always know why, or you don't always know what emotions you're releasing, but emotions are being released. So it's things you can do at home after to counteract whatever's going on through the day or what you've experienced.

Speaker 2: 14:27

Wow, Before we heard about that breathing, I bet everyone listening was kind of thinking, oh my God, like I'm not going to walk down and bust a celebrant in the middle of a down dog or something like that trying to de-stress at a wedding day. Or like there's the decorator praying to the sun, or something like that Breathing okay, this is good. So that breathing technique, what would you? What's the name of that?

Speaker 3: 14:54

Well, I don't really have a name, but it's just basically like let's just for the sake of it, call it 80-20. So 80% breathe in, 80%, 20% hold and then exhale, and then do that three times and you'll find it quickly starts to calm the body down. So it's something that you can do on the spot there without anybody really noticing what you're doing. You can be say like if it was a photographer, unpacking the gear or a lens, and then do quick, three quick breaths just to calm. All right, reset. Okay, what do I need to do now?

Speaker 2: 15:31

I quite often do those breaths trying to talk myself out of murdering someone.

Speaker 3: 15:39

Well, if that works, works it seems to work.

Speaker 2: 15:40

But another question is I'm I'm a dog person. And jack, you're a dog, hayley's a dog person, we're all dog people we've got three puppies between us. Dog shake to get rid of stress. Yes, so could I come home, have a, get out and shake like a dog and like, feel good, like I'm such a typical idiot boy in this scenario, aren't I? Jack is the voice of reason, hayley's the voice of reason, and I feel like I'm the thorn among two roses sitting here on the couch.

Speaker 1: 16:10

No, but I couldn't handle stress. I've had to get, you know, a prescription for something to sort of help me. Just take me on the. I'm not at zero, but I'm not at 80 anymore. I'm sort of I don't know 20 or something, but it's helped me not fly off the handle and have more clarity. You know, if my husband gives me the shits, I'm not kicking him out and getting a divorce. I'm at least like entertaining what he's got to say.

Speaker 2: 16:36

Oh, I love it, so essentially we could have a shake.

Speaker 3: 16:42

Yes, we essentially could. So it sounds silly, but actually shaking things off, like physically shaking and moving the body, helps to discharge that energy. Shaking and moving the body helps to discharge that energy. So, like any, any dog owners, um will have known, it's like you were out walking your dog and the dog sees, uh say, another dog or some kind of animal and it gets its all its hair stand up on end and then, once the threat has gone, the dog will shake the. The dog will just physically shake and give yourself a good shake and then off it goes again. The same thing happens in a while.

Speaker 3: 17:21

There's this beautiful clip on well, not so much beautiful, but this amazing clip that shows this whole principle perfectly is um, I think it's a leopard or a cheetah, or something has caught this gazelle and has brought it in, and the gazelle has gone into a freeze response, which is the either the flight fight or freeze. The gazelle has gone into a freeze response, so it looks like it's like it's dead, but it's not, it's just frozen. And then these hyenas or baboons come along, frighten away the cheetah, and so the gazelle is just laying there and the gazelle starts breathing again. Then, all of a sudden it starts convulsing and shaking and it looks like it's having a fit. But what it's actually doing is starting to discharge that energy out of its body, discharge that, um, all the adrenaline and everything that was built up.

Speaker 3: 18:09

And then all of a sudden the gazelle gets up and off. It trots to live another day. And it's because animals instinctively know to shake that stress off out of their body and then, once they've shaken it off, then they're. That's why they don't walk around with, say, ptsd or any trauma issues is because they get rid of that stress right after, right after the exposure. And then they're nearly all of the time fine to walk away and be okay after that. But it's not socially appropriate for a human to be in a shop, have an encounter and then start shaking all your limbs.

Speaker 1: 18:50

Have you guys never heard the song by Taylor Swift?

Speaker 3: 18:52

Yeah, shake it off.

Speaker 1: 18:55

I'm like it's perfectly fine's perfectly fine actually sorry everyone, you heard it here first.

Speaker 3: 19:01

When things go sideways at a wedding, it's okay to stand there and shake for a bit but even if you could just walk, like even just something as simple as flicking your hands or going into a, say I'm just going to quickly duck to the bathroom, going into the bathroom, shut the door, do five or six squats, that's after you go, yeah, yeah, five or six squats in in the bathroom or like literally shake your hands in the air or do something to get that energy.

Speaker 3: 19:30

Because we, like you know, when you're angry or frustrated or something is intense, you can feel it, especially around sort of the heart area. You feel it all in your chest, that tightening, that everything's just starting to get too overwhelming. You go, go in, say, into the bathroom in a private area where there's no bridal party or anything like that, and you can actually shake. You could do like five or six squats and that physical movement of the body, that vigorous movement, is just enough to get it out of your system. And then you'll find that when you re-enter that back in that room, you're like, okay, let's start again so I'm I'm gonna take things in a little bit of a personal manner oh, excellent, should I get my popcorn?

Speaker 2: 20:12

oh god, no wine, no. So, as a creative, I know that I have a very personal relationship with ADHD, and these kind of techniques have Help me to navigate certain situations that I've found myself in. Would you like to share how this helps in an ADHD sort of situation?

Speaker 3: 21:58

Yep, so I have ADHD as well. Mine is more internal rather than external, so I experience the overwhelm and, excuse me, the emotional dysregulation that comes along with adhd.

Speaker 2: 22:15

So I can speak 100 from experience and just just to add, we are both diagnosed. This is not a little home diagnosis at all.

Speaker 3: 22:24

So um, so sorry. What was the question? Typical adhd.

Speaker 2: 22:29

Let's go for a swim so how, how does how does this help someone with adhd? Because with adhd because I know there's so many creatives out there that that I don't want to say suffer from this, because I wouldn't really call it suffering I think it's a bit of a superpower, to be honest, in some occasions, but it does mean that we tend to be internally juggling a lot and that can be a bit overwhelming, that can cause stress. So, in in your experience doing this yourself, can you share how doing this for yourself has impacted you and how it's enabled you to to manage what, what you, what happens for you and what you go through?

Speaker 3: 23:14

yeah, yeah, so I, yeah it definitely. I practice what I preach. I'm not just sitting here going, oh you need to do this, you need to do that. I actually do all this stuff myself and one of the greatest things that I have found is finding moments of quietness.

Speaker 3: 23:35

Um, because there's so much internal chaos that goes on my brain on a daily basis, like I'm constantly thinking, constantly got bits and pieces zooming around my, zooming my brain, zooming around my brain.

Speaker 3: 23:48

So, um, finding finding stillness, um, lots of times throughout the day just to sit and do nothing, like there is.

Speaker 3: 23:59

There is great power in doing nothing, um, because it enables the brain to reset and especially as a creative as well, you've got all these amazing ideas, you've got all this inspiration, you've got all this stuff constantly swirling around in the brain and the brain's not designed to be going 100, 100 of the time.

Speaker 3: 24:19

So, sitting on the couch and I'm actually giving everyone permission to sit and do nothing several times a day, walking to the couch sitting at a blank book, put your front, get rid of your phone for starters, phones are bad um, sitting on the couch doing nothing other than staring at the wall or staring out to beautiful trees that you got outside. Trees are fantastic to stare at um, because it allows the body just to come back down to be quiet, to be still and find those moments of pause and moments of reflection. And you'll actually find your productivity increases as well, because you're not sending yourself into overdrive, you're not pushing yourself to extreme boundaries all the time. So having frequent pauses through the day allows you to be more productive yeah, guess what I do to relax, what pop?

Speaker 1: 25:20

well, well, that did come up in therapy. That was it's. It's a funny story, right. I had a therapist who was working through my complex ptsd and saying you know, you need to find times in the day to stop, like, and she tried. I've done yoga. I don't mind yoga. I will go back to yoga at some point soon. I actually didn't mind that, but meditation very hard for me to stop and not think about anything else. I've got a million things going on at once, always. Um. But yeah, she tried all these different things and it was so funny because none of them worked. And even to the point that she gave me an adult colouring book and I got stressed when I went out of the lines. I found that really stressful.

Speaker 2: 26:01

And so we ended up.

Speaker 1: 26:02

I had a hot tub at the time and I said I'm just going to tell it how it is. What I do is I sit in my hot tub and I have a rose hair spritzer and then I finally like switch off. But now it's I sit on the couch and I watch Rue Howe's Wives and I know that it's like that is. It can't be the right thing to do. I know that it's not the right thing to do, but something about that dumb show just makes my brain completely switch off. Women screaming at each other and yelling at each other tables I'll just sit there and my brain just switches off the only thing that works be, I guess.

Speaker 3: 26:38

I suppose because it's essentially removing you out of your own life, probably out of your own head, and then, um, going into their lives and and having half an hour or how long the show goes for in their lives, so you're forgetting about what, everything that's going probably in your life, and so then, when you come back to your reality, oh, I feel reset because my brain has left me, my husband's walking around going.

Speaker 1: 27:03

I don't know how you can watch this shit. You know I'm like, I love it. I just feel relaxed, I look forward to it all day and I just feel great after I've watched it but like it's it is, it's highly individual.

Speaker 3: 27:17

What what is going like. Everyone knows what works for them. Like I can't.

Speaker 1: 27:23

I can't sit here and say, oh, everyone needs to sit down and and do coloring in, because it's not always going to be, no, someone's jam no, but that, for me, is the one thing that will make me stop and not speak, and not be on my device and not and not think about everything else so it's, it's finding and you'll, you'll know, you'll know what your thing is like.

Speaker 3: 27:44

I've got a mate and he rides motorbikes and whenever, because he's he's a police officer and so whenever things get a bit too much, he jumps on his bike and off, he goes for a ride, it clears his head, comes back, he's refreshed, he's reset.

Speaker 2: 27:58

So we've talked about breath work and we've had a bit of a joke about having a shake, which is not so jokey. We haven't really touched on the yoga side of things. Now I know that you've said to me in the past that some of the blokey blokes and the you know a cross section of the community might think that yoga is a little bit woo-woo and that sort of stuff. So can you share with us how yoga can help manage stress and can help with, obviously, with flexibility and and all kinds of good health within the body?

Speaker 3: 28:36

um. So our, our mind controls the body and our body controls the mind. So you think, if you're at a wedding and you're moving quickly, you're moving quickly, you're moving fast, and everything's moving rapidly it's going to send a signal to the brain saying that, oh, we're moving quick, we're moving fast, we must be stressed, and so you're going to start producing a lot of neurochemistry that's going to start triggering more of a stress response within the body, and so it's a self-perpetuating cycle. So the brain will think that we're stressed, it's going to move the body more radically, more quicker, and as the body moves quicker and faster, it then sends more signals back up to the brain, and so it's just a self-perpetuating cycle. With yoga it reverses that. So if the mind is racing, if the mind is going quickly and we start moving in intentional, slow, paced movements, it's then going to start sending signals to the brain. Saying to the brain oh, we're moving slowly, there mustn't be any threat around, there mustn't be anything? Um threatening our survival. So it's okay to start to slow down, it's okay to start to come back into the moment and not projecting our thoughts and our mind into future or past events and bringing yourself back into the moment and then, as the brain starts to calm down, the body so too will start to calm down, your heart rate will start to decrease, your breath rate will start to decrease, and so doing the longer, slower stretches as well, and the deeper stretches. It is essentially a mindfulness practice, because you're focused on that muscle stretching. You can feel that muscle stretching and it brings you back into the moment because, as you stretch, your awareness comes onto that stretching muscle. So there's an element of that mindfulness happening as well.

Speaker 3: 30:38

Um, there's detoxification. That occurs, like when you begin to stretch and when you begin to move the body, you start to activate muscles, the muscles contract, and as the muscles contract, and as the muscles contract, it starts pumping the lymphatic fluid around the body more, and so it starts to cleanse the body and clear the body. You're doing breath work, which starts to increase the oxygen intake into the body, so the body starts to become more oxygenated and then, as you release, you're releasing more of that carbon dioxide and toxins with that as well. More oxygenated, and then, as you release, you're releasing the more of that carbon dioxide and toxins with that as well. So there's various aspects and reasons why yoga is so beneficial for the body. And then also, too, it activates the relaxation response and starts to bring the body back down into a more calm, relaxed state, and so there's several factors that come into play. I'm not going to go into that because it's a whole podcast itself. But yeah, so yoga is highly beneficial.

Speaker 3: 31:38

Things like Tai Chi as well. That's amazing. Qi Gong is another good one as well, because they're all slow-moving, slow-paced movements and flowing sequences that allow the body just to come back into a more calmer-like state. Slow walking through the bush is another fantastic one as well. Anything that's going to slow the body down is going to slow the mind down as well. I remember when I first started yoga, it was difficult for me to start to switch the mind off, because the mind was continuously going, it was continually racing around with all these different thoughts. But it's like anything the more that you do it, the more that you practice it, the better you become at it. And so once I overcame that initial hurdle of trying to fight with my mind and allowed myself just to come back into the moment, then that's when I started to notice all the benefits of yoga.

Speaker 2: 32:46

So, speaking of high speed, you're probably wondering why Jack has been unusually quiet, and that's because her high-speed doggy Louie decided that he was going to try and chase an equally high-speed, slightly bigger furry animal outside. So Jack has gone out to rescue him and I think she's got him now. But, hayley, thank you so much for joining us. Hopefully Jack will be back in a minute. Have you got an offer? Is there some way that people can reach out to you if we have wedding professionals out there who are struggling with, with dealing with stress on the day? You know having moments, like I do occasionally, where I just want to throw my hands in the air and go, oh, my god, get me out of here. Um, how, how can, can people reach out to you? Do you? Do you do this sort of thing one-on-one like? Let us know?

Speaker 3: 33:31

yeah, so I. Yeah, I've got a website. It's hayleyrobinsoncomau, so h-a-y-l-e-y-r-o-b-i-n-s-o-ncomau, so you can find me there. I'm. I don't have a social media platform, um, purely because it's not in alignment with what I'm preaching, so I don't want people going. I don't believe social media is good for the mind and it activates the stress response, so why would I put myself on social media? It just goes against everything that I I teach.

Speaker 2: 34:12

Now that you say that, that is that is so right and counterintuitive to, to marketing now. So that's wow, that's an interesting take.

Speaker 3: 34:22

If people want to find me, please do come to my website. There's a little um section on there where you can contact me. Just fill out the form, um, and connect with me that the way and send me an email and then I'll be able to respond there. So I I do um. I teach yoga. I teach therapeutic yoga.

Speaker 3: 34:45

Um, that can be a little difficult via zoom because you can't always get the full effect of that. However, I do do stretch stress coaching, um, teaching people how to negate the effects of stress. So everything that we've discussed today, plus a whole lot more, I've got a whole lot of more things at my sleeve. Um, so I do one-on-one coaching. I can can do that via Zoom and I give people activities to take away and get people thinking differently about what happens in their daily life and teaching people about their body and how their body works, because once people know and understand how the body works, then we're able to have better control over our body and have better awareness over the body, and then, when we've got better awareness, we can take better action.

Speaker 2: 35:38

Yeah, yeah, so you have an offer for us that you can share today.

Speaker 3: 35:45

Yes, so my offer for listeners today it's $50 off my one-on-one coaching calls. So it's, um, yeah, if you just drop a line to my website, onto the contact page, just mention the fact that you've been listening today to the podcast and I'll take 50 off their coaching call and the link to that will be will be in the uh the bio below and jack back.

Speaker 2: 36:11

now she's caught her small furry animal.

Speaker 3: 36:13

I had to de-stress. Louis Jack is still shaking off.

Speaker 2: 36:19

That sounded horrible. So well, the beauty of this is I'm going to get one of those free sessions on the car on the way home from Jackson oh, rubbing in.

Speaker 1: 36:32

Yes, when can I borrow her?

Speaker 2: 36:35

Well, whenever you want.

Speaker 1: 36:36

Okay, all right, I'll book you Sounds like.

Speaker 2: 36:39

Louie's going to need a de-stress too.

Speaker 1: 36:42

I think so. Oh, so lovely to meet you, hayley. Thank you, I'm so happy to meet you too. All right, and I'm sure that a lot of the listeners are going to go. Great something to do to just remove from this moment right now go in the car and breathe.

Speaker 2: 36:57

Well, everyone does know that your high-speed little doggy just chased something equally high speed and you caught him. So, yeah, yeah. So, guys, thank you very much for joining us for Episode 2, season 3. Yes, look at us go. I know, We'll be back soon for another one. I, season three.

Speaker 1: 37:11

Yes, look at us go. I know We'll be back soon for another one. I know Fabulous, I might actually come down and meet up with you, yeah. We'll smash out a few. What do you reckon?

Speaker 2: 37:17

That'll be exciting.

Speaker 1: 37:17

All right, thanks, guys, and as always, you can catch me at weddingacademyglobalcom and Ben at wwwbenconnellycomau. I reckon they know the WWB, don't stress me out.

Speaker 2: 37:35

H-T-T-P. Don't stress me out.

Speaker 1: 37:37

Thanks guys, See you next time no-transcript.