Fill Me In: An Aesthetics Podcast

Dangerous Aesthetic Trends | Episode 29

Jon LeSuer NP-C, Nicole Bauer FNP-BC, Joseph Ginexi Episode 29

In this episode of Fill Me In, hosts Jon and Nicole discuss the latest viral Instagram Reels and TikToks about questionable practices in the industry, particularly the controversial Hyaluron Pen and DIY fillers. Additionally, they analyze celebrity transformations, highlighting Anne Hathaway’s youthful appearance and possible aesthetic treatments. With insights on healthy aging and skin care, this episode also promotes responsible aesthetic practices and professional training opportunities for upcoming injectors.


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Jonathan LeSuer, MSN, NP-C 

Jonathan LeSuer graduated from Le Moyne College with his Bachelor’s in Nursing in 2014 and a Family Nurse Practitioner degree in 2017. He began his career at St. Joseph’s Hospital as a Registered Nurse on a cardiac medical-surgical unit. He transitioned to the Nurse Practitioner role in 2017, working for Hospitalist Medicine, where he became the coordinator for the team’s Physician Assistants and Nurse Practitioners. In 2020, he started his career as an Aesthetic injector and quickly found out that this was his passion. On March 15th, 2022, he opened Tox & Pout Aesthetics. He is now a Master trained injector & National trainer for Allergan Aesthetics, offering Botox, Dysport, Hyaluronic acid fillers, Kybella, SkinViVe skin booster, and Sculptra. Jonathan is known for his empathy, profound bedside manner, and outgoing/warm personality. He has a deep love for aesthetics, and his patients’ confidence is his main priority. 


Nicole Bauer, MSN, APRN, FNP-BC. 
Family Nurse Practitioner 

Nicole graduated with her Associates in Applied Sciences and began her journey as a registered nurse 10 years ago in 2014. She worked hard to combine her love for beauty with her passion for caring and healing others, attending aesthetics school while working as a hospital night nurse. After graduating as a licensed aesthetician, Nicole left the hospital where she had been for 3.5 years and began working as a registered nurse for a plastic surgeon. An experience of over 6 years that would leave her with so much knowledge and respect for the aesthetic world. It was during those 6 years that she pursued her Master’s Degree and obtained her license as a Family Nurse Practitioner, leading the way for where she is now; owning a state of the art medical aesthetic practice and being a national Allergan Trainer. Nicole takes pride in treating her patients holistically, focusing on facial balancing and enhancing one’s natural beauty. She believes education stands as the cornerstone of aesthetics and is why she is dedicated to both training others while always focusing on expanding her own knowledge as well.  

Producer of Fill Me In: Joseph Ginexi

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 Alright guys, welcome back to another episode of the Fill Me In podcast. I'm Ejector John, 

and I'm aesthetic nurse Nicole. 

And we're gonna dive deep into the world of aesthetics tonight, and we are gonna talk about some Instagram slash TikTok reels. I don't know, whatever the hell you call 'em. Yeah. Um, that just went, we're so old.

We're so old. At this point, we're 33. We're sold. But we're gonna be talking about some of these reels that have been viral lately. Mm-hmm. And honestly sparked a lot of interest in the aesthetic community. I know a lot of, uh, the big injectors in our community have been reposting it, talking about it. And there was one specific video that, of this woman doing the hyaluronic pen and.

We all know, like, I feel like when I first started six years ago, there was even like people posting like, is this, yeah, is this real? Like, is this safe? Like, you know, what is this? Should we even, what is this? Should we even be doing this? But so many people were doing it like in 2018 through 22, and apparently still are, and apparently still are.

People don't care that they just want something cheap. Mm-hmm. They, mm-hmm. Don't wanna spend all this money. They, I, I, I don't know. But basically it was this girl doing the hyaluronic pen on this woman. And for those of you that don't know what Hyon Pen is, it's basically hyaluronic acid gel that's not f FDA approved in the United States.

I think they get it from overseas or somewhere, right? Mm-hmm. And it's in this like air pen. Right. And then they put it up against the lip and then they press the button. Click a button. 

Yep. 

And it pushes the hyaluronic acid into the lip by like air pressure, right? 

Yeah. Yeah. It's bizarre. You're not using a needle, 

you're not knowing how deep the filler going.

It's needleless filler. Um, crazy. Absolutely crazy. Do you see it a lot down in Jersey? 

Uh, I see a lot of videos. Yeah. And I think it's a lot of, um, just like. I guess just kind of backdoor places that you wouldn't typically come across, but sometimes they pop up on my, my FYP. Yeah, like TikTok and stuff. But, um, yeah, I, I guess the force of that air is supposed to push the hyaluronic acid into the lip, but you end up with lumps, bumps, clumps, and also it's still very dangerous.

Like you can still get an occlusion from it, even though it's needleless. 

There's an, there's an FDA warning. With Hy Pens. Yeah. I mean, you can look it up anytime there's a warning. Don't do it. No, you know. No. Here's the thing, guys, like if you go somewhere like me and Nicole, or any other injector, if they're using a needle, it's actually safer.

Mm-hmm. Number one, because you can aspirate. Yeah. If they're, you know, God forbid you're in a vessel with Hy Pen, you're just. Pushing that filler and you're not even knowing what layer you're in. Yep. If there's a, uh, and, and let me tell you, the person doing it, they don't care about your anatomy. 

Yeah. Oh no.

No, 

they don't. 

They care about that $200. They're charging you for it. 

200 like ew. And. 

Well, if you think about it, a needle is such more of a controlled trauma. Mm-hmm. Whereas this is gonna be such more of a trauma to the tissue, you're gonna end up with scar more. More scar tissue. 

The bruising that, have you seen some of the bruising?

It's been so bad. Yep. Like up into like where the nose is. Mm-hmm. And you don't know whether it's a VO versus in a bruise. Yep. But there's a hole. I've had a few 

patients that have fallen for that. Hyon pen and they come in and they do, they have like bumps kind of all around the lips. 

Yeah. They're all superficial bumps.

Mm-hmm. And you have to dissolve the Yep. Yeah. Dissolve. There's another option before you even option. Yeah. Start fresh before you start fill. Yep. But it's just crazy because I feel like when I first started it was such a thing and like I was seeing patients and I know you were seeing them come in and I'm like, God, what is this?

Yeah. And they, they would say when you, and this is the big thing guys, especially new injectors. If you ask a patient, have you read lip filler before? The PE patients, a lot of patients that have had hyaluronic pen, they'll say they've never had it before. 

Yep, yep. 

But the minute you say, but have you had any like hyaluronic acid gel in your lip?

Mm-hmm. They'll say, oh, I have, and it was like the pen, like the pen, the, the needleless. That's how you have to honestly phrase it. 

Yeah. Yep. And especially because like I feel like two to three years ago, it really peaked, so it was very common then. So some people might even be like, oh, it was so long ago, I don't even need to like bring it up.

Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm. I feel like too, people fall for the before and afters because it's so much, much trauma that they're so swollen after. You can't tell there's lumps and bumps. 'cause the lip is, oh, I know. Just the lip is just so swollen. So people are like, wow, that actually doesn't look that bad.

Crazy. Absolutely. So crazy, so 

dangerous. Please do not 

just don't do it. Just save your money and go and go to someone who cares about your face and your anatomy and not giving you an adverse event. 

Right. And like we always say, if it's too good to be true, if it sounds too good to be true, it is like.

$200 lip filler. 

And also, does that sound right? Let's push filler in your lip using air pressure. Okay. They're just gonna have lumps of filler instead of it being like using a needle and have it being threaded underneath the lip and like massage and make sure it's nice and smooth and all equal throughout the lip.

Mm-hmm. Let's just put lumps of filler in your lip. I dunno. Let's just do 

that instead. It doesn't make sense. And hope. Hope it looks good. 

And hope it looks good. You know? Um, big, big, no-no. Let's, let's next talk about another viral video. That's, um, I, when I saw it, I couldn't believe it. I dunno if I, yeah, you just 

blew my mind with this one.

I, I didn't see this one. 

This was on, um, I think another injector reposted it, and then I saw it on TikTok thereafter. 'cause you know, the algorithm, once you see something and then you see it everywhere. Um. It was a girl, they must have been in their twenties, and she was with her friend and they were in her car and the driver's seat was rolled back and she was laid backwards and her friend was in the backseat and she had a syringe of filler and she was doing her lip filler while in the car.

I cannot believe that. 

How do we know that there was Linux there? We don't know. No, there definitely was 

not. 

Was there alcohol preps, hypochlorous acid was there gauze? I have no clue. But it was abs and honestly, guys, you might think it's like stupid or like clickbait that we're even talking about this right now.

But it's, the fact is, is that this stuff is happening. Yeah. And there's backdoor things happening like this. Mm-hmm. And it's just really scary. Yeah. And. If, if one video is out there of this, this is happening way more. 

Yeah. 

And I'm sure this is happening in bigger cities or you know more, you know, but I don't know.

And people always like, are like, well how do you even come across it? Like you can literally Google buy dermal filler, you guys like $156, 1 44 for rest. It like. These are not legit things whatsoever. Do not fall. It's on the market. Fall for it. Black market. Yeah. And you have no idea what's in these. Mm-hmm.

It's so dangerous. Like, and just because it might look easy, what we do, you have no idea what the anatomy is underneath the surface. And you could end up, you could end up blind. You could end up with tissue necrosis. Like there's so many dangerous things that can happen. It's not worth it. Trust me. Mm-hmm.

It is not worth it. 

And if you're in a car doing lip filler, you don't have the appropriate lighting. It's not as septic technique, it's not clean. Mm-hmm. Cars, cars are as dirty as a toilet. Actually, I think cars are dirtier than a toilet. Um, unless you're OCD and you clean your car every day, which I don't.

Yeah. 

No. I don't know anyone that does. 

But it, it just, it just like flabbergasted me that this is happening. Yeah. Was 

wearing gloves. 

I can't remember. Oh my God. Am I gonna lie? 

Yeah. I gotta look. 

She, I, she probably was. Yeah. It doesn't matter. You're in a car and you're doing filler and you're posting about it.

Yeah. 

Like, you're not cool. That's not cool. No, no. It's dangerous. 

And, and you don't wanna give other people any ideas 

and it's really, it. What bothered me, Nicole, is that it, it affects people like me and you that actually care about what we do and have businesses. Mm-hmm. It's, it's devaluing. Mm-hmm.

Undervaluing what we do. What we do. Yeah. I, I don't know. Yeah. I just, it pissed me off. 

No, no. It's so true. I, I actually, you, you hit a nerve with me on that one because I see a ton on TikTok of people doing their own microneedling. 

Yeah. 

And buying these microneedling devices off like Amazon or TikTok shop, like mm-hmm.

That's so dangerous too. You can damage the skin instead of doing. What you need to do to promote collagen, like leave it to the professionals. We've all gone to school for this, we've got certified for this, like mm-hmm. We've done years of training. 

There's people getting these cheap devices and then they're actually.

Having people come to their house and doing it at their house for them. Yep, 

yep. 

And they don't have a medical director. Yeah. And it's not an FDA approved device or it's whatever. Yep. It just doesn't make sense to me. No. And it's 

so dangerous. And you promoting that and showing that on social media is gonna show someone else, or maybe even someone too young, like mm-hmm.

Oh, I could buy that and do that. I'm gonna do that. Like, it's just so think, think before you post and think before you ruin your skin. 

Right. Exactly. And if she is an injector and she's posting that, she's doing filler on a friend in a car, yeah. It's not a good look. I mm-hmm. Like if you're watching this girl, if you're listening, listen, love you.

Love you a long time, but please learn from it. 

Yeah. Yep. Learn from it. That's such a good statement. Yep. Mm-hmm. Don't, don't be posting that. 

Mm-hmm. God, do I sound too harsh? 

No. 

Okay. 

It's so true. 

It's so true. 

Come on, I'll even bring, please, if my family wants stuff, I'm like, you can meet me at the office.

Oh my God, my husband to this day goes, can you just bring it home? I'm like, no, no. 

I don't have what I need at home. 

Can you just come to the office? Yeah. It's a number one clean. It's sterile. Yeah. And right, like I just don't wanna bring it home. No, 

no. 

Shove it in my bag and then, then it's sturdy. Yeah, 

exactly.

Exactly. Mm-hmm. I'm like, if you want your Botox, I'm not bringing it to Thanksgiving. You can come visit me. Oh 

my God. I know. 

Hey guys, just popping in. If you're enjoying our podcast, please subscribe and don't forget to follow us on Instagram injector John and Aesthetic Mystical. 

But anyway, let's also talk about, since we're on the topic of like social media and stuff, I feel like this went like crazy.

Like, I mean, we, we see celebrities like I would say at least once or twice a month that mm-hmm. These pictures, and you're like, whoa, they look incredible. Like they made such a transformation. I know Demi Moore made that amazing transformation. Nicole like, oh my God. Like at the Oscar, she looked incredible.

Yeah, 

she's beautiful. 

Oh, yeah. Stunning. And she's like 61 or 62 years old. Mm-hmm. Um, but Anne Hathaway took my breath. Breath 

away. Yep. 

Ha. Hathaway took my breath away.

Oh my God. No, she looks so, so good. 

She. I think she left a lot of people guessing what she had done. Yeah. 

Well, and that's the, that's what everyone wants. You wanna look amazing. Mm-hmm. But you want everything to be completely undetectable. 

Undetectable. But you're like, bitch, what'd you 

get done? Yeah.

What'd she do? 

You know? And there's a picture that I wanna bring up. Yeah. Um, and it's a picture of her at the r Lauren Fashion Show. Mm-hmm. That she was at, which by the way, like khaki's, her color high. Like 

it really is her color with the dark hair. God, she's so beautiful. Mm-hmm. 

And I feel like. I don't know what you think, but like I've heard mixed emotions.

Mm-hmm. There's people don't like her, which I'm like, why don't you like her? Like, I don't know. 

Yeah. 

I I've had no problem with her. I freaking love her. Yeah. I think I loved her in, um, um, princess Diaries. Princess Diaries and, and The Devil Wears Prada. Oh. Which is like my Bible. Are you kidding me? But she looks so naturally refined.

Mm-hmm. And in, in her pic, in her photos on Google, actually you can find them, and I think on Instagram, a bunch of injectors have posted her. People were like questioning like, oh, I think I see a scar in her hairline. I think she had a temporal brow lift. Um, you know. What do you think, Nicole? I think 

definitely there is some surgery components, but I do think too that she's definitely just done some like regenerative injectables, maybe some Voluma in the cheeks, jawline, yeah.

Mm-hmm. Definitely some, you know, as we all age we get some hollowness in that like prejowl sulcus area. She's definitely had to have something there. Yeah. Um, but I do think, we'll. And you mentioned this, she's got a high ass ponytail 

high. 

And that is gonna, that is why my hair, since she is tiny, being eight months pregnant has been up because it literally does this, it gives you a lift.

Oh, I see it. If, if my hair were down, everything would be sitting a little lower, my lids would be sitting a little lower. Yeah. So I think that's definitely playing a role. But if you can tell too, her brow is definitely a little bit more kind of up and out. I feel like that has to be a. It could be a, a temporal brow lift.

Or, or, or an upper bluff. A bluff, yeah. An upper bluff. 

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So potentially that. But I honestly think like if you look at pictures even from like 3, 5, 7, 8 years ago, like she's just naturally aged really well. Beautiful. Yeah. And I think that. She can't move her forehead. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I think she's had some neurotox in there.

Yep. Um, I think she's had, like you said, maybe a little bit of filler in certain areas, but I don't think like a lot. No, no. And I think she's had some bio rejuvenation, so I think she's had, um, some biostimulators, like sculptor hyper radius mm-hmm. Or something like that to stimulate collagen even. And I'm sure she does 

lasers and microneedling and.

A ton 

of skin treatments. Yeah. Yeah. And because her radial cheek lines honestly haven't gotten worse, she's had that little dimple there, like back here like for a while and it hasn't really changed. Right. 

Yep. 

Um, her neck, I think she, she's also neck. 

I think she's also a great example of kind of taking care of yourself.

I. I think, um, 

rejuvenation. Yeah, 

exactly. A lot of the times we overlook like, oh, well what did they get done? What did they do? Like, what does she do on a daily basis and what's her diet like and her exercise routine? And yeah, I think we don't, we don't realize how much fluctuating in weight can cause aging and premature aging and things like that too.

So I think just. She's taken really good care of herself over the years too. 

Yeah. I mean, look at Halle Berry. Mm-hmm. Incredible. 

Yeah. Yeah. 

I mean, I look at her and I like go right to her, like Tragus. Mm-hmm. And I look for a scar and I don't see one. 

I know. I'm literally looking at this picture right now.

Too insane. Like, because this is, this is the thing I, and I tell patients this a lot of the times too, like a lot of celebrities will have a little. Maybe neck lift or something where mm-hmm. It's not super noticeable, and that's pretty common, so don't hold yourself to these standards. Mm-hmm. But again, if we, if we start early, we do lasers, microneedling, s sculptra, things of those nature, we can probably slow down.

The process of the aging neck and, and the laxity that you do get and see, 

I think what also struck a nerve for me was like, I feel like over the past year. Mm-hmm. Which I think is great. I think we've gotten, I. I guess more like society has accepted the fact that people will get facelifts Yes. And that that's okay.

Yes. Right? Mm-hmm. And I'm so happy about that. Right? Yeah. But I also think that they're making it like a standard, like, oh, if you're in your late thirties, early forties, time to get a facelift. Yeah. Backlift. Yeah. You don't need one. Yeah. Like if you start getting these treatments in your thirties, I would say.

Mm-hmm. Like. I honestly think you're going to prevent a lot. You start losing collagen in your late twenties, 1% every year. Yep. And if you're doing, whether it's sculpturist, some filler tastefully in certain areas that you need it, like to address some volume loss, if you're getting the, you know, microneedling, laser treatments.

Mm-hmm. Soft wave, whatever you're doing to help stimulate collagen, all of that is going to help. Keeping your skin looking more lifted, tighter and more useful? Absolutely. 

Yep. Absolutely right. And wellness wise, focusing on hormone regulation and nutrients. Mm-hmm. Your supplements, all of that stuff. It plays a huge role.

It really does. 

It does. No. What you just said. I think nutrition from on the inside. Mm-hmm. Yep. Like not, or sorry, rejuvenation from the inside. Yeah. Yep. Um, you know, I think if pe you can do sculpture, you can do rejuvenation mm-hmm. To patients all day long on the outside, but if they're not taking care of themselves on the inside, it's gonna show.

Yep. And I think sometimes their aesthetic treatments aren't gonna be optimized. Yeah. Fully to the way that you want them to be because they're not nourished like they should. Yeah. 

Yeah. And I love highlighting these pictures and like. Talking about what we think celebrities might have had done. But I also love to highlight the fact that even Getty images and paparazzi, they Photoshop these people.

They're filter. Yes, they do. Oh my God. So I always say don't compare yourself. And I feel like too, like. It's funny because I've never really taken a break from aesthetic treatments and now being eight months pregnant and not planning ahead. So I literally haven't had any treatments for almost over a year now.

Mm-hmm. We truly, genuinely are our worst critics. Like I'll be like, oh my God, I look horrible. And then all the patients I see all day long are like, you just look so incredible. Like you're glowing. Your skin looks amazing, like. No one is noticing what you're staring at in the mirror. You know, they're looking at your face as a whole.

They're not picking up on this one little line here and there. Like, we have to learn to not be so hard on ourselves too. And especially don't compare yourselves to these celebrities that are getting photoshopped no matter what. You know? Yeah. Even it, it's so true. A paparazzi photo is photoshopped, you know?

Mm-hmm. 

No, it's so true. I know. Um, but we definitely need to like. I, I, I think we don't talk about this enough, is that this, well, we do actually this, we all, the joke is that this, I just totally went back on what I just said. I can't, oh my God. This 20 plus patient day is like, yeah, it's killing me right out.

Um. 

But I mean, everyone always talks about this new generation who just is like, so like on TikTok taking care of themselves. Mm-hmm. They're, I mean, kids in their, I'm sorry, I, I mean I'm sure you have it, Nicole. Like you have a, a mom that comes in and goes, oh my God, my 8-year-old daughter has an eight eight step skincare routine.

Oh, yeah. 

Yep. They all have their drunk elephant stuff. Yes. And Yep. From Sephora. Yep. Yep. 

So this generation coming up mm-hmm. The Gen Z even like early, early, like. Millennial slash Gen Z. Yeah. They're gonna, they're gonna be so pre rejuvenated. It's not even funny. Yeah. Like I'm anxious to see like how many.

It's gonna affect the, like, the revenue of plastic surgeons. 

Yeah. Yeah. And I, I am, it is funny. I'm curious to see like 10 to 20 years down the line right. Where we can see what they look like. 

Yes. Like I wanna know, like, 

yeah. 

Oh my God, did it work? 

Did it work? 

Like Nicole? I did that. Um, it's still going viral, which I think is hysterical, but the, the, the posts I, or the real, I posted on Instagram of like, oh, let me show you how Botox and fillers can ruin your face.

Oh, yes. Yep. Yep. 

The amount of like people like Ew, like it did. Yeah. You look like an alien. Um, I had people saying, you look gayer now than you did before. Um, oh, 

I'm crying. 

Oh, yeah, yeah. Or like, yeah. Why'd you do that? I hope you learned your lesson. 

Like John, there was no way that you could look gayer. You hair was like six inches tall 

and I had blonde tips 

and you had blonde tips.

I'm sorry, honey. Those people need to, they need to get some glasses. 

Yeah. Get a job. How about that? Or do something with her life. Um, I'm, and I, here I am looking. I'm like, I had hollow under eyes. Yeah. Which, listen, everyone's beautiful. Mm-hmm. Everyone's gorgeous. Okay. But to me, this looks better so you can f off.

Oh my. No, it's so true. People will find anything, like, they will, I get messages about how giant my forehead is, so it's just like, it's, it is, it's hysterical. 

Know, they'll find 

anything to pick you apart about, 

you're literally a walking glamazon. Like, oh, stop it. Thank, you're the prettiest pregnant person I've ever seen.

I'm not kidding. Oh, I love 

you so much. Mm-hmm. You could probably land a plane on my forehead and it's fine. I accept it. I, I have a five head. It's okay. 

There's a lot of bumps on the forehead from the. From the lines. From the lines. All 

these lines. Look at that. 

I can't wait. I'm like, I'm like this close to getting Alicia on my RN to get Botox.

She told me she's still breastfeeding. 

Oh, yep, yep. 

And she's a stickler, she won't do breastfeeding. Mm-hmm. Which is fine. Um, and I like, I like got my Botox finally. Yeah. And she, 

she's smiling like, oh, looks so good. 

I like opened one eye and I go, this feels so good. Like, how do you feel? And she was like, I'm gonna kill you.

Like 

she told me she's, I hate you. 

She told me the other day that she spilled some of her like the breast milk? Mm-hmm. Like in the fridge and then she spilled it somewhere else and she's like, is this a sign? Do I need to stop this? A time 

Just, 

yep. 

Yep. The cut it off. 

Her baby is like seven months old. 

Aw, yeah.

Yeah. She's done it for a while. God bless her. 

But I didn't know this. They like ask. Moms now to feed like at least formula or breast milk up to a year old? Oh, I don't know. 

I guess I'll find out. Oh, Jesus. 

But like you're starting them on baby food like at six months, seven months. Yeah, because they start.

Yeah. But 

I guess you have to still 

supplement. 

Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's why, why I have a pediatrician so they can tell me what to do. 

Or how about if a baby cries? They either shit themselves pee themselves or they need, or they're hungry. Yes. Or they need a burp. I have no idea. They're gassy. I don't know.

I'll keep you all posted. 

Oh my God. Um, but we wanted this episode to be a little bit more light. Mm-hmm. And we wanted to talk a little bit about. Certain things that we're seeing on social media. Yeah. Um, if you're listening in and you follow us on Instagram comment, like if there's anything you're seeing mm-hmm.

Comment, tell us to go watch it. Yeah. If we haven't seen it. Um, 'cause we'll tag us. We'll talk. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I know. 'cause we'll dive deep into it and we'll talk about it. 

We'll let you know what's going on. 

Oh my God. I know. But absolutely crazy. Like just guys, if you're listening in and like, I had a patient that came in today that said that she, she was completely naive.

To getting any Botox or fillers. It was her first time and she went and watched every episode of ours before coming in. Oh, I 

love that. 

Yeah. And I was like, that's amazing. And if you're someone who is, um, brand new and naive to all of this, like just make sure you're going to someone who is reputable, who has an office Yep.

Who has a good website. Mm-hmm. Who he gets, who, who has a license abuse. Who has a, oh my God. Who has a license? I mean, that should be like Yeah. Common sense. 

Yeah. Right. And you can look up any licenses. You just put the state, state you're in and, and license look up and you can look up anybody. Mm-hmm. So if, if you ever feel like something's not right here, try it.

Look 'em up. 

And you can go on the alley directory mm-hmm. Online and find a provider who has Botox cosmetic. 

Yep. That's the other thing. If you're ever worried about, I also have a, somewhere on my page, I should probably put that, pin that to the top. Uh, but if, if you're ever worried, like, oh, I don't know if the Botox is real, there's several ways to tell counterfeit Botox or real Botox.

Yeah. Um, and I have a video of that on my page somewhere, but mm-hmm. The best way is to go onto Allergan's website and do find mm-hmm. Find a provider. It'll tell you right there if they have it or not. 

Also, Nicole, I didn't even tell you this. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna be starting a Patreon. 

Oh my gosh. I have a Patreon, but I haven't posted in like seven months.

Oh. 

Here is your kickstart. Yeah. Oh, let's do it together right now you're, when you're eight months pregnant and we'll ready each other. 

We'll keep each other. Uh, 

yeah. 

Yeah. No, that's awesome. 

I'm finally gonna do it. I talked to my social media manager mm-hmm And she said that she would help me with it. So Amazing.

Yeah. Yeah. And you're injecting all day anyway, so might as well film the injecting and get 'em up there. Yep, 

exactly. And we'll have like, I think we're gonna have like film days, like maybe like once a month and get like three or four almost weekly. Is that how it is? Like weekly or something? Yeah, 

that's what I was doing.

I. If, if anyone's interested, I have a Patreon. 

Amazing. You need to talk about it more. I know. It's, it's 

the, it's the same as my Instagram aesthetic nurse, Nicole. Um, but there are videos on, it's probably for newer injectors. I mean, anyone can really watch it, but, uh, I just kind of show my techniques and, and things like that.

But, um, Azure's gonna be injector. John, what Are you gonna make your Patreon? 

I would love to have it injector John. Hopefully if it's available. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we'll have to find out. Uh, but my. Social media manager's gonna make it for me, so Good. Good. 

Yeah. Young. Exciting. 

I know. I'm excited. And it 

is a good way for us to be able to like get more information out there without like, 'cause I have people all the time ask me if I do trainings and stuff.

Mm-hmm. And like unfortunately it's just so busy and crazy and mm-hmm. I would love to offer shadowing too, but the way my day goes, it's 

so hard because you be there. 

Yeah. Like, what's going on? I think 

people. And I think a good way to explain it is, is we wanna be there for our staff and for our business to make sure that it's being run the way that we want it being run.

Right. And if we're shadowing someone, yeah. We wanna be there for you. Right. And be present for you and get the most out of it. And also be there for questions. Mm-hmm. And. Obviously like our patients are number one, our staff's, number one, and when you have a really, really busy practice, it's so hard, so hard, 

so hard.

And especially when you're double booked and stuff, you just don't have the time to explain what you're doing to someone that's shadowing you. So it's just something that I've, I've toyed with and I've been like, it's just not safe, and I don't feel right. Taking money from someone to come shadow me when it's like.

A crazy, hectic day and you saw me inject 24 people. Mm-hmm. But did you learn anything like No. 

It's such, such a good point. 

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So maybe one day, but 

I know maybe one day that's right. 

Before we close out, I just wanted to mention. Yep. Um, up here in Morris County, we're in northern New Jersey, but mm-hmm.

Face aesthetic institutes, they are agenda miles. She's incredible. She has created an entire curriculum, uh, and they offer courses to new injectors, experienced injectors. They're. A day long, two days long, a week long. There's several different courses, but they are having an open house on Thursday, May 29th from seven to nine.

Uh, if you're not an injector and you're thinking about becoming an injector, it's a great way to kind of meet people and network. Um, it's also just great. I. If you are an injector and you wanna network mm-hmm. And meet other people from the area or even surrounding areas. Um, and they also have an Allergan sponsored Botox training coming up on June 16th from 8:30 AM to 5:30 PM Uh, they are the only sponsored Allergan training facility within the East coast.

So if anyone wants a intro to Botox, they'll be having that on June 16th. You can check them out on Instagram. It's Face Aesthetic Institute. And, uh, Jen de Mayo, she's incredible. She's just an amazing educator. 

So happy for her. Yes. And who's the other injector? There? Is her name Christina. Christina, 

yes.

Yep. She's a sweetheart. And they have a few now, but, um, they're all, they're all amazing. Mm-hmm. And all the educators there are incredible. And Melissa and I do train there when we get, when we get the time. Uh, yeah. But Melissa and I are affiliated there too, so some, if you do go train, you might run into one of us.

That's incredible. Yes. We love it. Community over competition, love. That's right. That's right. All right guys. We love you. Have a great night, and thanks for tuning into another episode of the Filming and Pod. 

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