"DISTORTED FIGURES WALK THE STREETS, IT'S 1999!" we bring back Pete to experience this speed metal album that was sandwiched between two classics in their discography, MEGADETH, SO FAR... SO GOOD... SO WHAT! (1988)

So Far, So Good... So What! is the third studio album by American thrash metal band Megadeth, released on January 19, 1988, by Capitol Records.[1] It was the band's only album recorded with drummer Chuck Behler and guitarist Jeff Young, both of whom were fired from the band in early 1989, several months after the completion of the album's world tour. So Far, So Good... So What! features music performed at fast tempos with technical ability; lyrically, frontman and guitarist Dave Mustaine addresses a variety of topics, including nuclear holocaust and freedom of speech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_Far%2C_So_Good..._So_What!

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is it german dungeon porn yeah you think eddie hasn't shown me worse than german dungeon porn oh definitely yeah not yeah like i've seen the sounding video he has oh what sounding uh is that steering a metal rod in your dick hole Okay, I'm good. See ya! And then she does this. Ding! Alright, hello and welcome to side one side b with dave and steve i don't know why i'm doing it like a vampire what have you ever done that voice i've never done it that way i thought i'm trying to spice up our lives here better than atonal moaning ah side one side b with dave and steve i'm steve i'm dave and i am fuck ice no kings fuck ice fuck ice no kings 2 words like 11 yeah one name and then the other but yeah no yeah fuck i seriously first name fuck ice last name no kings no kings yeah Fuck the entire DHS, honestly. That is like a really fucking long name. Yeah, that is. Yeah. Well, anyway, welcome back to the podcast. What's the one's the last time we had you on? Judgment Night? Judgment Night, the movie, I believe. I think that's right, yeah. And before that, it was Jim Carroll, which was a long time ago, like early in the season. Yeah, it's been a while, yes. Well, today we're having you back to listen to my teenage self's favorite band, Megadeth. What do you guys What do you think Dave Mustaine thinks about Ice? Yeah. I don't want to know. Mustaine has been awfully quiet about his politics in this era. Yeah. The only thing I saw him ever say about Trump was that he was a successful businessman like in 20 16. But he hasn't said anything positive in support. That is a nothing burger of a statement, too. So, yeah, maybe maybe he has maybe he's evolved. So I'm excited for this episode. because as you may or may not know guitar playing wise anyway dave mustaine is kind of a hero of mine yeah same yeah huge influence and the importance of rhythm guitar came from an interview with him and marty friedman and guitar world backgrounds first learning how to play bass way too long ago dave what's your experience with the band that mega death um I remember first hearing Peace Cells in high school. I don't remember. It might have been during Grand Theft Auto, but I'm not one hundred percent on that. That's definitely how I first came across them. But yeah, love that song. I remember I remember liking that, and then I remember when I saw Decline of Western Civilization Part II in college, being like, oh, this Dave Mustaine guy is pretty cool compared to all the other jackasses in this movie. And then I found out more about Dave Mustaine later, but yeah, I do I do like Megadeth. I do think they're good. Yep. Yeah. It's funny. One of my favorite Dave stories is when they were touring Ireland and he came across some guys selling some bootleg T-shirts and of like his merchandise. And they're like, oh, yeah, we're doing it for the cause. And he's like, what's the cause? And then like later on, he's just like, this song's for the cause. And pissed off half of Ireland. And they had to finish the tour in a bulletproof bus. Yeah. he's kind of dumb you know I really liked Dave when he did a lot of drugs because yeah in recent days I would say he's a somebody you should separate the artists from the art I don't think Dave's done or said anything so bad that I would completely cut him off but he said a lot of questionable things and he's based recent albums well semi-recent now at this point like uh endgame was named after an alex jones like right documentary or something and he went on alex jones and uh he's definitely these days a right-wing leaning guy but he's been very quiet about that in the last like ten years so like i said i'm hoping So he hasn't done anything as bad on Alex Jones to say Kanye West. No. Kanye West was so anti-Semitic that Alex Jones got uncomfortable. So, yeah, I don't know if he quieted it down because his publicist told him to, but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would take that advice. So I think he's probably like I would guess he doesn't like Trump. And my theory on that is because they're very similar personality wise. And that's, you know, a different possibility there. I wish I knew more about this. So an acquaintance of mine from high school, his mom actually ended up sitting on a flight next to Dave Mustaine and like talked to him for like 4 hours straight. What do you mean? I was so jealous. From what I hear, he's actually really, like, if you're not, like, working with him, like, if you're just some regular person, he's really cool to be around. That's what I've heard. I'm sure he got sick of talking to fans or music people, too, and just likes having a normal conversation with a stranger. I've also seen multiple accounts of people saying that Mustaine, like, contacted them to help them with their mental health. Like, I used to, back in the day, I would be on the Megadeth forums. For some reason, it was an oddly active place on the internet. Even people were like, I haven't listened to Megadeth in years, but this is a fun community to be around or something. And there were multiple instances where people would post like posts like cries for help basically on the forum and then mustaine would contact them like so that's cool honestly yeah so i have conflicted beliefs about him it's like i don't like your right-leaning politics but i don't think he's a bad guy i think like with how with the kind of mental state he was in when he had to get sober too i can also see why he can have empathy for people and yeah yeah a similar place yeah so i don't know He's definitely not the worst being in the world. And I've kind of I used to not like how he treated people in his band, but I've heard the new Kings of Thrash song, and now I can see why he didn't give those guys any writing credits. And then it's like, politics aside, I would never want to be in a band with him, regardless. But, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't want to be in a band with David Thomas of Peri-Ubu. Well, he's dead now, but, like, back in the day, like, he's the common factor in all the people that quit throughout the seventies and eighties. I mean, can you imagine having to work with Jello? Yeah. I mean, I would strangle the guy. I agree with, like, 95 percent of what he says, but I would strangle him. I would have no business being anywhere near making that album. If I somehow had to be in that band, he would yell at me like Gordon Ramsay yells at people in his kitchen. That would not work. Can you put too many amplifiers over your ears? What do you mean you're an idiot sandwich? Now, before we jump into this, I want to tell a somewhat quick story about my first real introduction to Megadeth. Please do. Okay. So, I was definitely a rock and roll kid in the eighties, but we're talking Guns N' Roses was the hardcore end of the spectrum. I was still listening to a lot of Poison, still listening to a lot of Motley Crue, and Sometime around probably 7th or 8th grade, I don't remember which, but Christmas time, my cousin drew my name for Christmas gifts. And so she got me a rest in peace. And I was shocked, offended and scared when I got that because she was like, why don't you think I am a Satanist? And I didn't listen to it for months. But towards the end of that summer, me and a couple of friends played a lot of hide and seek in each other's basements that summer. That was just kind of thing that we did. And as a side story, that was long ago enough now that one of those guys just became a grandfather. So it's been a while. Yeah. Anyway, though, one time we're at my house, and I was like, you know what? I'll throw this in. Whatever. You know what? And I put it in, and I go and hide. And then I was like, what the fuck is this? I come out of my hiding spot. Lance comes up. Gotcha. I was like, yeah, yeah, whatever. Hold on. And I stopped and I rewind because I can't believe what I'm hearing. It is fucking amazing to me. I had a very similar reaction when I first heard Rest in Peace. I guess I'll detail my Megadeth journey. I'm certain the first time I heard them was Peace Cells on the Grand Theft Auto Vice City soundtrack. Probably heard them on the radio when I was younger, but just never registered it. And at the time, I was just getting into Metallica. So I was talking to somebody in some chat group about it, and he's like, oh, yeah, Mustaine used to be in Metallica. And I was like, oh, really? Well, sounds like I might like this Megadeth then. So I'm trying to think. Megadeth? What's the first thing I picked up by them? I probably just got P-Cells. Right. I'm thinking, but maybe a greatest hits compilation even or no i don't think i got a greatest hits compilation because they at that point they only had one out and uh i don't know i i was i think i was they were releasing like their uh their remix and remastered albums which are generally aren't very popular uh for a variety of good reasons so i think i was trying to get those um And, oh, I remember now Pepsi was doing an iTunes promotion. So like every cap would get you like iTunes points. So I'm pretty sure I bought P cells and countdown to extinction with my points. And that's why I first didn't save up for the F20 2. No, I didn't say I had to sue Pepsi for false advertising. I should have. I should have. You know, at the time I wanted I wanted Megadeth. So it's kind of a big blur what I listen to and when, because I bought them all up after that. So this was around 2004. So I had all of the all the albums on CD. Then I bought all the original pressing so I can get the original mixes, which on a majority of the albums is vastly superior. Also, they were really fun to collect for. I have a number of like promotional singles, a number of Japanese only exclusives, uh, which come with fun things like industrial remix tracks. Like there's a, I think Trent Reznor did a redid symphony of destruction in his style. Yeah. Um, and that's really cool to the point that Miss Dane says that they use his arrangement for the live version, which is interesting. Um, but yeah, um, i think their first 4 albums are great i don't really like countdown to extinction that much it's it's bland it's too perfect yeah um because i'm reading about when they were producing it how they didn't have the the the auto tune and auto sync technology to just to make it happen and so but they would, they had technology to tell if it was like right on the spot or not. And so he'd make everyone play over and over again until he hit every note on the exact spot where it belongs. And so they sucked all the life out of it. Yeah. It also sounds like people were miserable, which probably comes through. Yeah. I think their last great album was rest in peace. Uh, but his last really good album, I think was the system has failed, which was supposed to be a solo album. Uh, but, He brought back Chris Poland for a number of solos on that one. And he also worked with some like jazzy session musicians. And my favorite era of Megadeth is the ones where he hires jazzier musicians like On Killing Is My Business and Peace Sells. It was Gar Samuelson and Chris Poland on drums and bass respectively. And they have more of a jazzy background. Nick Menza also had more of a jazzy background. Yeah. come from his daddy yeah yeah and i think that's what set them apart from the other thrash bands was that rhythm section like the biggest thing i don't like about modern megadeth besides his stupid lyrics and he's always had stupid lyrics but they used to be stupid but charming and now they're just stupid But What do you mean? I disagree. Rust and Peeth is perfect start to finish. Best metal album of all time. There really isn't a lot of cheesiness on that one. But my biggest criticism of Modern Megadeth is not jazzy enough. Yeah. He hires metal musicians. And as a result, it just sounds like typical metal. So, and then you'd pair that with his like right wing lyrics. Yeah. Like, and even in a lot of songs where it's like, like people will say it's not political. And it's like, yeah, but you can tell his mindset. Like there's one where they talk about a standoff between some like gunmen in LA. And of course, you know, he's taken like snide, remarks at uh the people that don't like uh the police being militarized and people will just say that's not a political song that's just a song about heist no that's a political song um the song's called i can't explain i can't explain i see hmm Dave of the past, though, which is what we'll be talking about today, was very political. I think just generally more anti-authoritarian. So that's interesting. Yeah. Like one thing like what Pete said earlier about. about you know like thinking that it was satanic before he listened to it because it was scary it was like that interview at the end of decline part 2 where that i was really impressed by was him saying yeah no i'm not a satanist because if you lean into that kind of thing you can't really do songs about other things like politics I don't think Dave Mustaine was ever in a sphere that you would call lefty. I think he was probably liberal up until, I want to say, he became a born-again Christian. Like, it seems that's where the shift was. And it's why do people, why can't people become sober and not go that route? And then like, I don't, you know, like if religion is the guiding factor of getting sober, that's fine. But that, you know, don't develop something where you feel like you need to tell everyone how to live their life based off of that. Yeah. I mean, cause it was after that point where it's like, somebody asked him his position on gay marriage. He's like, I'm a Christian. What do you think? Okay. Don't be a douche. Just answer the fucking question, pussy. But yeah, I mean, my dad, he found religion and it made him a better person. So, you know, it's possible to go that route and not become a conservative Republican, but that's what happened to Dave. It's happened to a lot of people. Something about Dave's and religion. Sometimes they don't always head the right way. Yeah, you know. So it goes. Now, back during this time, he probably just, he probably had a more generalized view of the world. So, and like by the time that he kind of made his right wing shift, you know, he had some money in the bank. Probably has more to do with money than sobriety. Yeah. There's probably quite a few factors in it. That might play into some things, but it's hard to say for certain. All right. So today, it's funny I went off on that jazz tangent because this album is not jazzy. This is their punk album. At the time, they were listening to a lot of punk. He replaced the jazzier musicians with some musicians that weren't as technical. They cover a Sex Pistols song on this one. So I think I don't know if they were trying something different or they just went in direction of the musicians that he happened to get or he was listening to a lot of punk at the time. But the result is a very raw album. But I think is kind of an underrated album, it's got a number of really like banger songs on it. So, yeah, this album. Besides featuring Megadave himself, features David Ellefson on bass, Jeff Young on guitar, and those 2 are now in a band called Kings of Thrash, which I have subjected both of you to. Yeah, that was bad. It wasn't that horrible until the lyrics or vocals came in. That was pretty fucking horrendous. Yeah, I think it sounded like he was doing a parody of Dave Mustaine. Like multiple people in the comments are like, when did Eric John rejoin Megadeth? And then, so yeah. Jeff Young is another interesting guy. He likes to post flat earth stuff. He calls the COVID pandemic, the scamdemic. And I actually have a funny connection with him. So back in about 20 12, 20 13, the Megadeth forums were shutting down. I don't know if they just didn't want to deal with it anymore. A lot of people were bitching about their most current album, like 13, like they didn't like it. So some people think they've stayed and shut it down because he wasn't getting enough praise for it. But either way, around that same time, he said a bunch of like insulting things today about Jeff Young. And there was a small exodus of like a group of mega def fans that went to the old ufo radar forums which was ran by one of the members so he just made a general section so a lot of us went over there dave mustaine did this interview where he'd like trashed this guy And I think I was probably in my mid, early twenties. Yeah. And I don't know, at the time I was just like, hey, I like Jeff Young. I should send him an email and tell him he should come to this community and talk about his experience. Oh no, oh no, no, no, no, no. And he did. And he went crazy. Steven, Steven, Steven. You don't meet your heroes. Yeah. And don't bait them. Well, I didn't really interact with him after he joined the forum. I was just, hey, you should come by and tell your story. And then, like, a bunch of people asked questions. They were like, oh, it's a former Mega Death member. Oh, my God, he showed up. And he started saying, I don't remember the details. But he started saying some really sus things. And to the point where he stopped posting there and he started his own forum called Beyond Total Anarchy, because there was a sub forum on the Megadeth forums called Total Anarchy. So I guess he was trying to suck the people into those forums. He posted a lot of weird things on there. And for some reason, like instead of starting like a new post, he said he would start like new sub forums. boomer move yeah it was it definitely came off as like very boomer vibes um i heard rumors and of course these are internet rumors but i heard rumors that he would spend like all of his time after shows like just on the internet like fuming so i hope i didn't cause that i might have but anyway jeff young kind of a crazy guy You made a boomer be too online. That means you caused January 6th. I just wanted to tell the guy I liked his guitar playing. So here's something I never realized. I mean, this is like serious mind blowing shit because for years I always thought Peace Sells was the album before Rust in Peace. And it was this one's in between. I thought this was older because the artwork on the front cover looks kind of like some silly ass bullshit and so i assumed it was much older than peace cells well peace cells they had a budget uh this one i think they uh they either sniffed all the budget up their noses or the label just didn't give them enough money uh or maybe a combination of the 2 um oh yeah and uh chuck baylor is on drums uh far as I know, he's settled into a normal dude life, doing normal dude things. Good for him. Last time I saw him was when Mustaine had him in the studio to show them the remastered versions of these. He was just there being kind of cool. Okay. Do you know what he was doing before he was a drummer on this album? I thought he was just some rando. No, he was Gar's Drum Tech. That's right. That's right. He was. Yeah. And the same thing happened to him too. Yeah. Anyway. And then Jeff Young was there because they first hired a guy named Jay Reynolds from the band Malice. But when he couldn't, wasn't good enough to do the recording and everything, they hired his guitar teacher, Jeff Young. Yeah, I heard that story. Like the guy would come in and he'd be like, all right, show the parts to my guitar teacher and then he'll show them to me. And Mr. Tate was like, well, let's just cut out the middleman. But what's interesting though is Dave Lombardo considered joining. and one of the guitarists they considered trying to get in there was Slash. So just try to imagine this album was Dave Lombardo and Slash. I do remember Slash talking about that in his autobiography. He said they came up with some really interesting things, which I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for. Yes. Because I love both of them for very different reasons, though. But yeah. Let's see. okay so um this lineup was very short-lived um eventually dave mustaine got paranoid because he thought jeff young was trying to take his on again off again girlfriend so he basically fired him um chuck beller was replaced by nick menza uh like you said was his drum tech no is this original pressing so it's just 8 songs yeah okay og pressing I don't know. Sometimes I tend to prefer original pressings for most things. Typically, at the same end, I really wish Epitaph would put some money into having the RKL albums remixed and remastered. Because the playing on those albums is phenomenal, but you can hardly hear it because it's just so poorly produced. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, when there's a production issue. I do like listening to remixes, too. Remasters. Remasters. i will say if there's any of the remix and remasters you should check out uh for megadeth i would say this one uh really cleaned up the production i think the rough production is part of the the charm of it personally but if you're into like trying to hear more of what the instruments are doing uh checking out the remaster is a pretty good idea um looks like gar samuelson was fired for being a cocaine addict which is funny because from megadeth yeah Well, there's always Well, Dave Mustaine isn't going to fire Dave Mustaine. Well, then there's also There can also sometimes be someone in a band who has the same vice, but to such a degree that they can't work with them. Well, that's Guns N' Roses. They got rid of Stephen Adler because he couldn't ever get his shit cleaned up. Yeah. Very similar situation. Slash and Duff could have were at least semi-functional. All right. So, side one, we got 4 songs. We got Into the Lungs of Hell. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Set the world afire. Anarchy in the UK. I wonder if that's the cover. I don't know, Dave. I wonder if it is. And then the last one, Mary Jane, is not about marijuana. Is it about Spider-Man? I don't think it's about Spider-Man either. I think it's some At this time, he was kind of into like Oh, how do you put it? Like rituals and whatnot like black magic kind of stuff. OK, so I think it's about black magic. All right. We'll throw this on. Did we say enough about the front cover and the back cover? We didn't do that, did we? We never said anything other than that was cheap. But we've been live talking without you listening to any music yet, too. I'll do a quick run-through, why not? All right. Yeah, this looks like something from, like, a This looks like something you would see in between levels in Command & Conquer. It does. It's like a guy. It's kind of pixelated, like a soldier with grenades and bullets on him. I'm not sure if that's supposed to be Vic Rattlehead. Yeah. And a gun, or maybe it's a flamethrower. Who can tell? Some kind of weapon. And the earth is in the background. There's the song Set the World Afire, so I'll bet you it's a flamethrower. Oh, that makes sense. And then on the back, there's all the members making rocking out faces. Ooh, I want to look at the rocking out faces. Rocking out with a cigarette in his mouth. Yep. Rocking out with a dead candy sticker on his base. You know, Jeff Young doesn't really look like he's rocking out. He looks almost kind of confused. Like, he's like, what do you mean look angry? I don't know what you mean by this. What do you mean look angry? And Dave is just dave looks shoegaze yeah dave is probably on like 5 different drugs at that point like when i when i watched the behind the music uh they interviewed his former manager and like at 1 point he's just like dave just just pick one Yeah, no, he's just staring at his strings like, don't fuck up, don't fuck up, don't fuck up. I like how a lot of times, like, Kerry King will give interviews and he'll talk shit about Dave Mustaine, but also be like, dude will, like, do this complicated riff without looking at his hands. I can't even do that today. So kind of like me, admires his guitar playing, doesn't really like a lot else. Yeah, Kerry King likes to say that he likes Dave Mustaine for about 20 minutes. 20 minutes for the year and then he can not talk to him again for a while. That's kind of how I feel about Kerry King, so. Yeah. Yep. All right. Throw this on. Oh, by the way, it was produced by Dave Mustaine and Pauline. All right. And we are back. from side one of so far so good so what by mega death without an a what do you guys think i liked it no all right um all right for overall it's inside one um you're talking about how this was their punk rock influenced album um and while i do hear at least on set the world afire i did hear some comparisons to rkl Years ago when I was in college, my guitar teacher taught me a little bit of jazz. She taught me like 7th chords and 9th chords. And I made this kind of, you know, like kind of wrote this song using those chords and everything. I still play it to this day. It's fun to play. I like it, but I show it to him. And he was just like, if you ever play that in front of a buddy, don't tell him I'm your guitar teacher. Yeah. And I get that story now because I feel like if you show this album to anyone, don't tell them you're inspired by punk rock at all because please just don't. Okay, so Dave likes it. I like it, yeah. I think it's underrated. And Pete says no. Yeah. You know, maybe the price for having the greatest metal album of all time is everything else you do kind of sucks. Well, yeah, I thought it was fun. I thought it was a little earnestly cheesy at times but that was part of the charm uh if you're a negative fan you have to embrace the cheese yeah it's kind of like when people complain about star trek being cheesy i'm like it's all part of the journey man yeah that's why i don't watch star trek um for me I think it's an underrated album. I suppose it deserves to sit in its place among what most people consider the classic albums, because it ain't anywhere near as good as Rust in Peace. It's not as good as Peace sells, and it's probably about the same as Killing Is My Business. I probably like Killing Is My Business a bit more. That said, I enjoy I think the lo-fi production is actually a strength on this album. For some reason, the cleaned-up version is interesting to listen to, but I don't know. I just like the vibe that it gives, especially on, like, it's 2 opening songs, I think the lo-fi vibe kind of added to the nuclear apocalypse feeling. And I don't know, it sounds like the band's having fun to me, but Pete, I see you're dissenting. Yes. You know, it's kind of back to what I said earlier about the RKL albums, wishing that Epitaph would remix and remaster them, is because the playing is phenomenal, but you can't hardly hear it. It just sounds like such a muddy mess. And I think if you have the superior technique, if you're playing some amazing playing, I feel like a higher quality production is needed for that to show through. One of my favorite bands is Off With Their Heads, but Off With Their Heads does almost nothing technical. It's very bare bones as far as the playing and stuff. And so it can get away with a lower production quality, especially on their older stuff, because you're not listening for, you know, this awesome guitar solo. You're not listening for this, you know, cool little bass line or anything. And I can tell they're doing some interesting things, but you can't hardly hear it. It's just this fucking Yeah. mess and it's that i i do want to check out the remastered version of this and see if it doesn't improve my enjoyment of the album i think in your case it might uh for me it's like i to me i could hear everything that i wanted to hear but um most of what the remaster brings out is some like synthy stuff you can't hear um so I feel like I just sold it way too low, so don't listen to that. Dave, your thoughts on the production? Yeah, the production was kind of muddy. The vocals were buried a lot of the time. I've also listened to this ten thousand times. I know this album like front to back, like I usually take notes during these. I'm not taking notes because I know everything I need to know about this. Yeah, I know. I thought I thought the vocals were buried a lot of the time. I I don't know. I like some of the dynamics of how the 2 guitars would play off of each other sometimes. I thought it was fun. It sounded, it reminded me of hearing this kind of music in someone's basement where they brought Marshall stacks. They shouldn't have, you know, but yeah. I don't know. I liked the vibe. Yeah. Yeah. It felt like, it felt like a basement show. Which is fun. I had fun. all right um so we'll go into uh track by track here so into the lungs of hell a instrumental a wankery session basically yeah the guitar was really tinny at the beginning well i i thought something was wrong with my record player at first and then when all the instruments came in it was like no no that's right yeah my my thinking was wrong speed right speed both speeds sound kind of off But one thing they kind of notice is like before, like the kind of thrashy part kicked in kind of the almost an intro chord progression. Once everything came in, that chord progression was very British sounding to me. Yeah, I could almost hear it playing at the end credits of a Danger Mouse cartoon. He probably saw you. It was the Diamond Head influence, I bet. Yeah, before the thrashy lead stuff came in, it sounded like, oh, yeah, I could tell this was influenced by punk. But then once the guitar came in, it's like, yeah, but it's more of a Megadeth thing than a punk tribute. I will often criticize bands that do a lot of wanky guitar solos. uh, for Megadeth, I think it works. Uh, they perfected it on rust and peace, uh, which, uh, I, I know you want to talk about that one. We're going to do it in the next season. Cause I think we're going to do one more general season and then we're going to do the all bad album season. So, uh, we'll bring that one in, but, All right. So, yeah, Into the Lungs of Hell, a lot of guitar solos. There's some parts that I thought was interesting where, like, where one guitar would be soloing and then another would kind of ring out or the other one would feed back some that I thought was pretty interesting. And, like, there were some cool dynamic moments that didn't really stand out in the mix, but yeah it was it was fun to to like listen for them and to catch them yeah and the end of it like the way they kind of like slowed it down and like did like the ring house it reminded me the of the end of the buffy the vampire slayer theme song by nerf herder so it is a similar vibe to that in my opinion but yeah all right so i think this one kind of serves as an introduction piece to uh the next song set the world afire uh this song is the first song that he wrote after being kicked out of metallica that makes sense yeah He said that he wrote the lyrics during his journey home from the departure, and the inspiration for the song came from a pamphlet he read while on the bus back to California. Similar story to the Rust in Peace album, which he saw a bumper sticker that said, May all your nuclear weapons rust in peace. And he's like, oh, good song title. That explains why it does sound like something from an anti-war pamphlet, because it was. But you know what? I draw inspiration from that. Yeah, no, it's not bad. It just doesn't seem Yeah, it seems a little different from the normal Megadeth stuff. It tracks X drew some good songs from random Bible pamphlets that they found on the street, too. So, yeah. Oh, my God. I want to do an album inspired by nothing but Chick tracks. Yeah. I had a buddy that a work buddy when I was doing gas station work that loved it when those people came in because he collected those like they were baseball cards. They're interesting. One time he brought his box and I'm like, this is amazing. They're hateful, but they're interesting. Yeah. um set the world afire i think uh is a pretty effective song that demonstrates uh a post-apocalyptic world like the fallout yeah from the beginning um i think the lower production kind of adds to the sludginess so that's why i think it works really good for a post-apocalyptic song um And also, I think the lyrics, distorted figures walk the street. It's 1999 is funny. Yeah, I like given current events that might come true 25 years later. Yeah, I thought it was like I I thought like starting with, you know, like that old sample and then like doing the bomb drop song sound that was. cheesy and way too sincere but it worked it was fun like like i i laughed i don't know if i was supposed to laugh but it was i i thought it was funny it was achingly sincere which was yeah it was fun did a brilliant blow the panties off grandma yeah yeah What I love about them using the samples, like years later, they use that song in Fallout 3. And that's one of my favorite games. So, of course, when that came on, I was like, oh, I kind of liked it. How, you know, after a little guitar riff would end, they do like a little like guitar dive bomb thing, which was like a good moment for just like a solitary headbang. Just. Yeah. one was fun. I would say that was the best one on the side. I agree. You know, I have a lot of disappointment on so many different things, but it sounded so good in but it's kind of funny that you mentioned that this is the first song he wrote after being fired from metallica because while the song is playing i was thinking back to the story that dave ellison would tell how uh they just had started the band and things were going along and then dave mustaine ran into a fan that talked about how much he loved it how fast the metallica songs were and so then dave came back and like doubled the speed and everything that they were playing yeah And that's the kind of story I remember while I was into that song. You can definitely tell he was just like, I'm going to put like 4 solos in this and one up those bastards. Because with this album, he would have been competing with Master of Puppets, I believe. And yeah, I mean, that album's a fucking riff machine. Although I guess if he wrote it like right after Metallica, he would have been competing with killing, kill them all. So fair. And that wasn't a very fast album in retrospect. I suppose at the time it seemed like it. Yeah. Next song, Anarchy in the USA. Ramone Pistols. Ramone Pistols. Yeah, a lot faster than the original. One of the interesting facts about the Sex Pistols is a lot of the UK punk bands started before the Ramones toured the UK. It's just like after the Ramones did come in and tour the UK, every UK punk band started playing faster. Except the Sex Pistols. They're like, no, we wrote these songs at mid-tempo. We're going to keep playing them mid-tempo. And honestly, I respect that. I respect that as much as I can't stand the Sex Pistols, but yes. And honestly, that's a smart play, too. If you're trying to stand out from all the other bands that are playing, if you see everyone heading in this direction, you either want to stay the course or head the opposite direction. Yeah. When we did the the album, I remember you mentioning that, like everybody wanted them to play Sex Pistols songs and they're like, Nope. Yeah. The song, I think, is a good cover. Yes, it's a decent cover. Yeah, I am. I like it that Dave doesn't try to just like ape Johnny vocals. It sounds like Dave Mustaine singing it right. Rather than him doing a probably bad Johnny rock impression or any kind of British accent whatsoever. Yeah. And changing it to the USA does make the rhyme force, but it also rhymes Antichrist and Anarchist in the original version. Fun fact, Dave Mustaine will not play the song anymore, and that's because he's opposed to the line, I am an Antichrist. His reasoning being like, well, I'm not, so why would I say that? I'm like yeah it's his performance yeah he won't play 5 Magics anymore either to be honest I don't care that he drops this one because it's a cover and it's kind of I don't know like one of my biggest criticisms of Anthrax's live performances they include 2 covers in their set the Got the Time by Joe Jackson and uh antisocial by trust. I still think it's funny that Joe Jackson makes makes fun of the anthrax cover for being too slow. Yeah, that is really funny. It's like, why did you guys make this the staple of your guys' set? Like, I don't understand that. It's a good song. Yeah, it is. But why is it the staple of their sets? Because it's a good song. So on the streets of Anthrax is my favorite album by them is Attack of the Killer Bees, because most are like straightforward albums are just kind of like Yeah. Oh, and I recently listened to some, like, bootlegs of the Sex Pistols when they played in Texas right before breaking up. And they were changing the lyrics to Anarchy in the USA for when they were playing in Texas, too. So the Sex Pistols butchered the rhyme scheme for that first. Seems just did it. Yeah. But, you know, like, I don't think that makes the cover bad. I'm just saying, you know, like that was already built into it. Like it's lyrically it lyrically it's a dumb song. Yeah. It's not like I remember I read a book about science fiction's influence on popular popular music in the seventies. And they talked to Michael Moorcock, who was a science fiction writer and a famous anarchist. You know, like what he thought about punk getting into anarchy. And like one of his comments was, I don't think the Sex Pistols have read Bakunin. The song featured a sex pistol on the second guitar solo. Sid Vicious played guitar solo on it. From Beyond the Grave. I like Steve Jones. I think he's a decent guitar player. I will talk shit about Sid Vicious and Johnny Rotten, but I do like I kind of like Jonesy. Yeah, I like Jones. I like Paul Cook. I like Glenn Matlock. I like Jonesy and his videos in his kitchen with his fucking sailor's cap and fucking bikini briefs. Yeah. Aw. And, like, Jonesy went on to, like, do a lot of, like, really good session work, too. Like, he did have jobs, so All right. Next song. Mary Jane is not about marijuana. I started out liking it more than I did by the end. The exact opposite. Really? Yes. I thought it overstayed its welcome a little bit. I liked like the weird, like paranoid kind of. falling apart vibe to it at the beginning. And then I felt it kind of went a little longer. And then like how buried the vocals were, like, I was like, I wanted to hear the vocals a little better because they sounded like completely unhinged. I wanted to hear that delivery, but it was just so shoved far in the back it didn't click. Like at the beginning, I was like, this might be my favorite song on the side. And then it just kind of kept going. And it was kind of a muddy mess by the end. So in a nod to Airheads, In the very beginning, is someone farting on the bass strings? We should get the LaserDisc of that. We should. But, I mean, so this song was just some silly bullshit. Oh, yeah. It was like a ballad, maybe. I don't even know. It was just it was like just shitty. You know, all of a sudden they get to this halfway point and I was like, this is getting better. And then they're doing kind of the twin guitar harmonies. I said, I like that. I like I did. I did. I did like the like the white noise on the drum hits to like how they made it bigger. Right. Yeah. Well, this song is a story about a young witch buried alive by her father near the Loon Lake Cemetery in Minnesota. According to the legend, anyone who dared disturb her grave was doomed to a prompt death. Holy shit! Holy shit. This goes back to my fucking childhood. Oh yeah. So, all right. So I haven't been there, but my old bass player, so yeah, this will come from a story from Dave Ellison then, because he's from Jackson, Minnesota. It's like, yeah. 45 minutes from where I grew up. And my old bass player at 1 point, he went up there. And so supposedly the thing is, if you jump over the witch's grave 3 times, you die. And he jumped over her grave twice and then got home, and he got home 2 minutes past curfew, and so he got grounded for 2 weeks. And that was his swearing that the curse was true. So it's like a warning curse. It's like, if you would have done that one more time, you would have been fucked. Man, that's some weird-ass shit. That's going back to home. For me, when I was growing up, I had a hard time paying attention to this song. I think it's my ADHD. As an older person, post-stoner metal era, it's kind of got like a stoner metal vibe to me at the beginning, which I like. It's just been executed better by other bands. But Otherwise, I do like the doomy atmosphere of it. And I do like how it eventually, like you said, gets more complex as it goes on and gets more interesting. I had fun. This was this was like basement show fun for me. Yeah. So, I mean, I can see how it's disappointing in between like their 2 strongest albums, but it's like listening to it on its own. It's it's fun. Indeed. All right. So we're going to move along to side 2. Aw, do I have to? Yes, you're contractually obligated in the thing you didn't sign. The Kermit the Frog voice. Yay! first hog, 5oh2. That song is an ACAB-themed song, kind of. Nice. Next one, In My Darkest Hour, probably the biggest song that came off of this release. He still plays it a lot. Was that the single? I think it's one of the singles. There's 4 singles. Oh, there's 4 singles. Okay, yeah, that was the last single. That's half the album. That one's a fan favorite. Liar. Another Sex Pistols cover? No. This song is about The New Orleans cover? No, it's not. Yes, he went back. Would have been going back in time. Yeah, that was the nineties, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, that song is about Chris Poland. Um, and I think some of it is like true and some of it's slanderous from what I understand. Uh, and then the last song is a hook and mouth, which is about censorship. Um, because that was a pretty hot topic. It's not called slander. It's called artistic license. Yeah, You mean Dave Mustaine isn't always arguing in good faith when he has a falling out with someone. I will allow a certain amount for autistic license. I have written songs that are not wholly accurate to the situation, because lyrically it makes more sense to go a different route. Oh yeah, It always does. Yeah. And now the difference here. if I say, oh yeah, this song is about so-and-so, and this is exactly how things worked out, that's one thing. But I don't ever like tell the backstory. I just write the damn song and there it is. Yeah, you don't have to say who it's about, because then you can change all the details you want to fit the song. Yeah, then your mom will be very offended. Yeah, All right, in the kitchen and get ourselves a treat. let's eat all of steve's pudding. how can you have your pudding? you don't eat your meat. uh, i want some meat. all right, you got that with the meat in your mouth. All right, we are back from side B of Megadeth. So far, so good. so what The soundtrack to a teenage me delivering pizza around my hometown. What'd you guys think? Is the production on side B purposely better than side one? Or have I just been drinking? you've been drinking okay, because it sounds a lot more clear on this. maybe it's my vinyl copy. parts of parts of it like i thought i thought in my darkest hour we'll get into more later- was like at parts, a lot more clear. um, production wise. uh, i thought 5 oh 2 was not. uh. But yeah, I think I had fun. It was the same vibes. There were a few moments, a few more moments where it wore out its welcome for me that it didn't on the first side, But it was. it was. enjoy it, I think. I think this is a fun record. It was much better inside one. I like it marginally better than Side One, because I think, Because you're a poser, You know I mean the Anarchy in the UK is a fun song, but I don't know. I tend to have a general dislike of somebody putting cover songs on their albums, which is funny because it used to be the other way around. It used to be like all covers and like one original Right, But I don't know. I think it kind of sticks out like a sore thumb on side one a little bit. And then doing doing just such like a well-known song as a cover, to feel you know, originally he wanted to do problems in the studio- made him do. anarchy

problems might have been more interesting. yeah, there is. uh, if you get their box set, there's a uh. he tried to do a mashup between the 2 at 1 point as well, like that was like his compromise. and then they're like: 53:22

no, do anarchy in the uk dave dance for us we're capital records. yeah, um, But yeah, like you, Dave, there were some moments where it wore out as welcome for me, like the big 502. Yeah, 502 was the only song I didn't really enjoy on the record. I'm just going to say that, And that's what affects my favorite song on the record. That's funny. I thought you would like the ACAB quality of that one. I mean I don't mind the ACAB quality, It's just the vocals were really buried and the rhymes were like, really like, kind of basic. Is it really ACAB, which is about getting busted for DUI? Is that really the hill you want to die on? Yeah, I mean I copped because I got busted drunk driving And then, like the big ending, that went on way too long and then faded out. No, I liked that. I enjoyed that. I thought it was funny. Yes, I think I'm more with Pete on that one. I mean, you know, when Philo II first came on, I was just like. this is what I want to hear When I hear a Megadeth record. this is what I want. yeah, i think the the record of this drug driving adventure, i think, is just really fun. um, fun fact. i mentioned that i used to deliver pizza a lot to these albums. uh, on the remaster version they replaced the ambulance- uh, sounding siren- with one that sounds more like a police car. Every single fucking time I listened to it, I thought I was getting pulled over. Having an ambulance instead of a police siren, when it's supposed to be a police siren, is just a hilarious, sloppy mistake, though I will admit that. Well, it was probably a lot harder to find samples back then, but yeah, And my hometown is basically a police state. so Yeah, it is. Well, when you have as much meth as they do, it's kind of required. So you know, there is that that picture that circulates online every now and again where it's the worst city in every state. That's where I'm from. How is it not Platt Smith? Well, anyway, I mean they're both bad. But yeah, no, like this one, this one didn't work for me. but glad, glad what i saw about the other songs, kind of, uh, that pete was able to see it. for this one all right. next song in my darkest hour, this song mustaine wrote right after he found out that cliff burton died. so cliff burton, not cliff burton. um, The lyrics. I don't think I have anything to do with Cliff Burton, but you know he just sat down and wrote the whole thing in one sitting afterwards and did lyrics to it later. So it could be a little bit of a stream of consciousness, just like how he was feeling, not necessarily about. Yeah, This one is kind of a crowd favorite on the album. I think he still plays this one a lot. And yeah, decent song, I think, could have been trimmed a little bit, Could have been, I think, I think, like this much in a live setting, though, would work really well. Yeah, I guess the good thing about Megadeth is there's 2 competent lead guitar players most of the time anyway. So when they go on for way too long at least it's still like enjoyable to listen to, And it's hard to do that. I mean like that's basically an entire Yngwie Malmsteen album- is him jerking off on guitar, and it's not as enjoyable as I think what Dave Mustaine and his lead guitar player at the time was- I don't know. I do like me some Disciples from Hell. One thing that I thought was interesting about this is his vocal delivery sounded more like Metallica than it tends to. I can kind of hear that, And this is actually a note from 502, but I know that he was singing to his strengths, And that's I know we kind of talked about it while I was playing- is that David Mustaine isn't someone that I want to hear. rapid delivery from, you know, I think a lot of people make fun of his voice, but I like his voice. I think it's a very unique voice, And when he really sings, that's really when he sounds the best. If he tries to sound like hardcore or too sinister, it doesn't work, But if he's just singing to the song. it works very well. It really depends on the album for me, because I think he sounds perfect for thrash with his snarly delivery. But on Euthanasia, that's a really good example of his really good singing. I never really listened to that album, so I'm not sure I liked kind of like the guitar at the beginning too, kind of like the gentler sound at the beginning and then how it built up into, like the bigger thresher stuff like. yeah, I thought like. I can definitely tell why this is like a crowd slash fan favorite. I can see why this is this. it wasn't my favorite song on the record, but it was definitely a standout one. one of the things that you know steve kind of touched on too, or listening to it, is, you know he mentioned that he heard some metallica in the guitar playing and that was one of the things that i really took note of. on this song in particular is part hanger, part lucretia and a scotch of holy wars, and then maybe even a little master of puppets i heard. um, so there's different, like different- uh different songs either from the past or future, that I think he kind of cannibalized this song a little bit for for some of the songs of Rest in Peace, But it wasn't bad. What was kind of funny, though, is that there was a section in there and even though it was very thrashy and they had the double bass going full throttle, it still had this owns, this Irish jig sort of overlaying rhythm. You could have danced a jig to parts of that song, Yeah, And I liked- I don't know there's like a descending scale thing- that the guitar did a little bit before the vocals started, which I thought was cool. Yeah, I thought the solo work was really good on that one. Yeah, Yeah, a lot of the guitar work and His work in general inspired me to do single note patterns on guitar when I picked it up myself. So I'm definitely appreciative of those, because he really comes up with interesting patterns. I think that's one of his strengths. And Harvest, because he doesn't have any formal training. I think, even when he, after he has hand injury and had to go back and relearn how to play guitar, I don't think he relearned how to write songs or rewrite rhythm pieces, And that's why he has songs that are sometimes in. I think the song Rest in Peace is like in XV, XVII or some weird time signature like that And I don't think Dave is going. I want to do a song in this weird time to say so. I can be like Chopper Trujillo from Dream Theater. I think it's just well. I wrote this riff and that's how it goes. And so play to that. Yeah, What's funny is I have a very similar experience because I don't have any formal training. I just like to do weird patterns And a lot of times I would bring it into Megaton and Mario. I don't know about his drumming today, but at the time he was very adamant that we do everything in 4, 4. So there are some songs where I didn't originally write them in 4, 4. If you listen to the intro of Sludge Hammer, we do the riff 5 times and then I think we have to do it 4 times. It's weird, And it led to a huge argument in the practice room.

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fine, we'll do the roof like this, Even though it doesn't make sense. but yeah. Anyway, yeah, a lot of times I would write things and they would often just be weird time signatures, because I wasn't thinking about it at the time. I've had similar arguments with Jeff and Eddie. Next song, A diss track to Chris Polen, Liar, My favorite track on the record. It's so fucking petty. It's so fucking petty, but, goddamn, it's so funny. Honestly, I think it was my favorite too. It was hilarious, it was badass. yeah, you know. and yes, there are parts of that were a bit cheesy, but i'm not that lactose intolerant. no, it wasn't. yeah, like yeah. no, like it was like it was petty. it was mean there was like some real venom in his delivery. um, yeah, the vocal delivery sold it like you could tell he was pissed off. but what was with the weird fucking ending? oh, when he, when he's rhyming at the end and just no, where it just stops. oh, I mean Sean has complained about my abrupt endings, but I've never done anything like that. That didn't trigger my annoyance, so I'm not sure I can. Yeah, Yeah, I did like. I know you said this isn't what you like about his vocals, but I did like the part where he was just like rapid fire, just like Cause he sounded so pissed. It sounded like a laundry list of everything that was pissing him off, Like right there, Just like the fact that he was singing pretty normally up until then. just, you know, like with venom, but just like suddenly, just like going into, like this ultra fast delivery of, just like a list of grievances. That was, that was, that was funny, That was a lot of fun, That was that hit exactly when it needed to Like 5 insults. They're just kind of random. And then everything else. that was an insult in alphabetical order. Yeah, but yeah, rest in peace, Chris Paul. no, he's still alive, but, Chris, I sometimes feel a little guilty listening to it, because Chris Paul seems like a decent guy now. but, like you said, I mean he did steal his gear. yeah, He had a right to be mad, I think. Yeah, this one, yeah, a lot of fun, Alright. and then the closer hook and mouth, his big tangent against censorship. One of my favorite parts about it was near the beginning, because it was the most I could hear the bass on the whole record like, but it was like largely bass drums and vocals and i thought the bass had like a nice little growl to it. and it's like no, and i agree with that, um, but i didn't. i didn't care for the intro. uh, just how it was done. overall, the bass in and of itself sounded fine, but it just. i thought it was an odd choice. how to how to start the song. uh, but the rest song was really good until it it redid the intro for like a sort of weird monologue in the middle of the song. yeah, um, yeah, i like this one, probably minus the monologue, because i also don't like. it's not always a good idea to go back. sometimes it works to go back to an intro thing. often it doesn't. this time it was a time that it didn't, i don't think. but yeah, yeah, if you do it, you know a re-intro needs to be like a quick call back and then you move on. yeah, but yeah, i, yeah, as a whole i liked it with minus, minus the monologue, you know, um, and uh, i had some really positive adjectives about the solos. yeah, that's, uh. that's always one thing you can, uh, say about megadeth, is, uh, their soloing and lead guitar playing is always excellent. um, yeah. and the rhythm guitar playing is good too. yeah, oh, he's, he is, he is right on. yeah, This one, I think as a whole, I'm anti-censorship. So thematically, it works a lot for me. I think Dave managed to harness some venom in the vocal delivery. that, I think, really works for me And overall, that song probably works for me a little better than it worked for you guys, because I don't really have any complaints about it. as a whole, i think this was a pretty interesting record. it is not better than the one before or after it, but you know, it's like. like i said, it reminds me of going to a basement show and people bringing their amps that are way too big and loud for it and just being in that moment. But what albums have you heard by them? Pete, Peace Cells, Rest in Peace and Countdown are the ones I'm most familiar with. Years ago, Jared completely illegally, I'm sure, gave me a copy of The System Has Failed. I listened to it a few times and it was all right. Oh, I like that one a lot. Okay. and then, Dave, what about you? Is it Peace Cells, Peace Cells and Rest in Peace. Those are the ones I know. Yeah, And yeah, I would say this. I could see why, like at the time, maybe somebody would have been disappointed hearing this after, uh, after peace cells, Cause you know the the drumming, I thought, is a lot more straightforward than it is on either peace cells or rest in peace. Um, he wasn't doing anything like really acrobatic. uh, Jeff Young, as a guitar player, did the job well, but I don't think stood out like Chris Poland or Marty Friedman. Was it memorable? Yeah, And seriously, Marty Friedman is fucking amazing. Yeah, One of the best guitar players, Period. Yeah, I even like some of his pop music. He's a pretty, It is fun. But that said, I like how raw it was. Like Dave said, it kind of has this basement vibe to it that I don't know. You know how you've described like Paul Diano's music is like Jean Jacket metal or something like that. I kind of see it that way. This is Jean Jacket metal. yeah, If you enjoyed the songs on this, I would recommend checking out the remix and remastered Like. I don't recommend checking out the Rust in Peace one, because he re-recorded some stuff and he changed, like the drum sound and stuff. Maybe, if you're like curious, because you know I'm curious about weird things all the time. But the nice thing is, on all the streaming services, they put out both versions. So I think that's everything we have to say about this album. before we do plugables, I'm going to have you guys roast these pictures.

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Oh, Oh, That is definitely you. Yep, oh, baby, steve, senior pictures. when i was 8 team, that was you and you had hair. that's yep, no beard though, no beard, i gotta say the beard, the beard works. yeah, i remember, i don't like how i look without the beard. i remember i got my senior pictures taken about a month before my beard started coming in. and so, like by the time, like by the end of high school, i had a beard, but yeah, I couldn't really grow one properly until I was about 21. See, at least you have pictures that show you My senior pictures were my mom's senior pictures. Yeah, You know, I just got a pose in them And at 1 point in time, and I graduated ten years before you, apparently 96,

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well, maybe you wear all those flannel shirts you like so much, Dave describe, There's like me standing in front of Elms and stuff. Oh yeah, there is a picture where Steve has a Strat. Is that a Fender or a Squire? That's a Squire. That's the same model that I re-bought. that's in the hallway now. Oh, so, like the bullet. Yeah, the original is in a garbage dump somewhere probably, Or hopefully maybe a garbage man saved it. I re-bought that one. but yes, I took my senior picture, Standing in front of a brick wall with your arms crossed, but with a CD rack. Yeah, a CD rack like it's here. All the Megadeth albums that had come out until that point. That's a lot of them. They really did put out a lot of albums. They did. yeah, Speaking of, do you have the Megadeth Less Than Jake split? No, I did not know that was a thing. Yeah, but I think it was one of those things like. I think it was like probably a pure cash grab, because it wasn't original songs by either. It was, I think, made up with, maybe Dehumanizer. I'm not sure about that one, but the Lesson Jake side was, all my friends are metalheads. Nice, Did they play a tour together or something? No, I think this is simply just like, hey, punk rock's getting popular. You know, they're just talking about metalheads. So hey, who wants to be a? I think it's just a complete. you know what actually. yeah unless jake was on capital records at oh yeah yep so yeah i guarantee you just some like bullshit like that no i hadn't even heard about that one my uh i was collecting for them for a long time uh but my hot topic that tracks yeah My white whale for Megadeth collecting was there's a version of cryptic writings where they took out all the vocals and they replaced it with Marty Friedman playing the vocal melodies with his guitar. And now you can find it online. But I wanted a physical copy and they were too expensive for teenage Steve to buy. My my white whale for collecting is John Kale's Animal Justice EP, where he's just yelling at some former bandmates who quit because he decapitated the chicken on stage. And it's called chicken shit. It's like, they didn't like that you killed a chicken on stage, dude. What are you going to do about it? My White Whale is all the different versions of Drugs and Masturbation by Boris the Sprinkler. Because They have the original version and also have the picture version out of Poland, I think. But the original version has one monologue in front of the songs. And then they did another version where he put a new monologue at the beginning of the song. And in this monologue, they discuss the fact that for collectors out there that they have this version with a new side A and a new side B, but they also have ones that they made then that has the old side A with the new side B, and then ones with the new side A and the old side B, but you don't know what you have until you buy it and listen to it. And it's just a fuck with collectors. Yeah, that would have pissed me off when I was a collector. Just like the time I was collecting all the Simpsons DVDs and the one with the Homer head clam case really pissed me off. It doesn't sit well on a shelf with the other ones. It really doesn't. All right. Sounds like you're out of retirement. Yeah. High Rises of the Gods might be getting an additional guitar player, but if we can't find a singer, we'll do the job ourselves. But ideally, what we're looking for is someone who can channel in equal parts Joey Ramone, Rob Halford, and James Brown. So if you are that person, get a hold of Hot Rods to the Gods. That is a list of demands. That's difficult. But if you find someone who can do that, holy shit. And also, preferably be at least 30, because I don't want to play with kids. Sorry. You're not Greg Jen. I'm not Greg Jen. That reminds me of, like, I remember Megaton opened up for uh this band that was clearly like it looked like a bunch of high school kids and then their dad joined them joined them for the talent show or something it was it was weird hey kids let's go play a heavy metal show yeah All right. I'm looking forward to hearing more from Hot Rods for the Gods because I liked your one show. Hot Rods to the Gods. We are the greatest band of Omaha. I was impressed with how tight you guys were for that being the first show. Because we are the greatest band of Omaha, even though we were playing Council Bluffs. Dave and I like to play fast and loose because we're loose men. with loose morals whatever you need to tell yourself just keep just keep saying you're playing jazz trust me speaking of which uh we have an acoustic album or ep depending on where you listen to it if you listen to the legal version on the streaming services there's 8 originals uh But if you listen to the version on my YouTube page, it's an entire show where we improvised a bunch of covers and Sean's playing acoustic. I'm literally playing on a park bench and Dave is doing vocals. And our bass player is not there. Yeah. I don't remember what he was doing, but he's the family guy in the band. Yeah. He apparently had better things to do, just like everyone else that wasn't at the audience. Yeah. Playing to 3 people. Yeah. good times anyway it's an interesting release yeah check it out or don't i also have my ep tyranny of the clock out on little mini cds uh that i realized won't play in like slot things so uh it's a novelty so if you want one of those i have them on my amp wall in my band camp so anyway that's my shameless self-promotion Yep. All right. Catch you on the flip side. Fuck ice, no kings. Fuck ice, no kings. Fuck ice, one side B with Dave and Steve is a floof goof studios production. You could find us on Instagram at kill rock music, SWS and Dave underscore diction. You can find us on blue sky at kill rock music and beast master general. Check out our musical projects, the illiterates and lucid fugue on all major streaming platforms and links to each at my website, kill rock music.com. That's K I L O. r-a-v-o-c-k music.com. This also includes my past projects Megaton and Valley of Shadows and my current solo project Kill Rock. You can also find Dave's past project Gong Farmer at g-o-n-g-f-e-r-m-o-u-r.bandcamp.com. Thanks! Everyone we worked with is dead. Really ripped. Yeah. I need to change my pants. Check, check, check, check, check, check. Check, check, check, check, check, check. Leonard Bernstein. I hate it so much I skipped the whole Destroyer part. Allow me to play you out. Dirty Dave just pooped his pants. Hmm. Hmm. Yes. Yes, indeed. Perfect, uh, hooker murdering song. Kick out the jams, motherfucker! Are Steve's got some cheese. Get my podcast voice ready to go. Jawobble. What a name. I'm Ivan Moody, and I'm having a psychotic break. Testicles. That is a fun fact. There's a jazz hole. What do you mean this song is called Sweet Pea? Now that we're done with Steve's Rorschach test, let's talk about the album. For fuck's sake. That's not very Vivian of you guys. It's a professional operation over here. This is Fantasia for people who had to repeat the 9th grade. Heavy metal. Yeah, hands off, Britain. We're dumping in the sea again. Da-da-da-da-da.