"Now here's a little story I got to tell About three bad brothers you know so well It started way back in history With Ad-Rock, MCA, (and me) Mike D" CHUBS BUMPERSIN returns and we talk about this hip hop classic, LICENSE TO ILL (1986) by BEASTIE BOYS!

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Licensed to Ill is the debut studio album by the American hip hop group Beastie Boys, released on November 15, 1986, by Def Jam and Columbia Records. The album became the first rap LP to top the Billboard 200 chart, and was the second rap album to be certified Platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). It is one of Columbia Records' fastest-selling debut records to date and was certified Diamondby the RIAA in 2015 for shipping over ten million copies in the United States.[1] The album received critical acclaim for its unique musical style, chemistry between the group members, and their stylized rapping. Since its release, Licensed to Ill has been ranked by critics as one of the greatest hip hop and debut albums of all time.

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Before we dive into the show, I want to take a second to pay tribute to one of my major influences. It was announced yesterday that Ozzy Osbourne, who fronted my favorite band, Black Sabbath, passed away just 17 days after playing what I thought was an emotional and meaningful farewell show in his hometown of Birmingham. Last night when I got home from work, I binged every Black Sabbath studio release, some of the self-titled, 2 13, as well as the EP that they put out on their last tour. And between his work with Black Sabbath and a very noteworthy solo career, he left this world with a catalog of work that, with the help of many talented musicians, changed the world of music forever. He was a man that transcended the heavy metal genre and became a household name. Ozzy, I think, was a complicated personality. His voice was on so many tracks that inspired me to become a musician myself. While I do have some mixed emotions about some of the things he's been involved with over the years business-wise, his music and artistry and his story have had a deeply profound impact on my life. And I find myself feeling a little strange waking up in this now post-Ozzy world. Gieser Butler wrote most of the lyrics that I related to, but Ozzy was the one that gave those lyrics a voice, and his unique voice and his presence is just undeniable. That said, when he did feel so inspired, the anger he put into crafting the track The Writ and closed out their album Sabotage, I feel is one of the best expressions of artistic frustration I have ever heard laid to tape. Rest in peace, Ozman. But flavor profiles, it doesn't matter if it's a 4star fucking restaurant or a fucking bar. Flavors are important. And flavors can be just as developed as some fine dining place when you put the time and care into it. Yeah. I love bar food. Like, bar food is a thing. I like I like eating only appetizers with bar food a lot of the time because, you know, sometimes I want a meal where it's just an order of fried pickles and some jalapeno poppers and that's enough. Well, it's like we have the fried cheese curds. Yeah. Instead of mozzarella sticks because everybody has mozzarella sticks. And fried cheese curds are better anyway. Hands down. By a lot, yeah. Yeah, Give her the best 45 seconds of her life. Who's ready for a good wienerin'? Hello and welcome to Side One, Side B with Dave and Steve. I'm Steve. And I'm Dave. And I'm Chugs Bumperson. A.K.A. Adam, who we've had on the Elf episode. Yeah. And the Iced Earth episode. Yeah. Where you told me I gave everyone herpes. Yeah, it's true, dude. My lips are all fucked up. Since then, you've kind of pivoted from, I don't know, you were kind of doing country at that time? Yeah, kind of a dark country kind of thing. But I got i got wrapped up with some some shady characters and uh ended up being good friends and kind of welcomed me into their family and i kind of always like wanted to dabble in hip-hop a little and i tried and it turns out and the 30 years of me doing music i'm better at this immediately all the other types of shit that I tried. Even my old ass dad's like, I hate to hippity hop, but you know, you're pretty good. I can understand the words you're saying. It's better than that raw growl stuff you were doing with your friend, Steve. Well, it sounds like you're, you're having a lot of, a lot of fun, uh, messing around in that world. Reverb, uh, lounge in Omaha on July, July the 31st for the last blunt tier tour. So that'll be a fun night. If you like smoking weed and chilling with good people and like a hip hop show that doesn't have security and is just cool people getting along, that's the kind of shows that we do. So I would highly recommend it. Even if you're not a fan, there's something for everybody, I believe. Well, speaking of hip hop, this is going to be a first for the podcast. Today, we're taking a look at a hip hop album. If you don't count the Judgment Night soundtrack. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, I guess we have covered hip hop. But this is a well, I guess it's not a pure hip hop album because they still have some of their punk elements. But it's definitely more hip hop than punk. Yeah, yeah. Well, we can get it. We can get into that at some point because we can talk about the fantastic musicians that these guys also were. Yeah. Well, let's start by, what do you guys know about the Beastie Boys? I have read their book. I have listened to all their albums. If I remember something, it's from reading their book, which is really good, the Beastie Boys book. Yeah, big fan for a long time. They are part of my favorite general era of hip hop. I like their whole scene, which was them, Public Enemy, Run DMC. Just like that whole group was, to me, one of the best eras of hip hop and i like going back to it a lot well one of the ones i want to cover eventually is the run dmc uh king of rock album oh yeah um if i had that one on vinyl we might have done that one instead of this one good i've been good uh beastie boys i know that uh the quote uh my name is mike d and i get respect yeah i also think they have some of the funniest rhymes oh yeah oh yeah and it's very like it's very like tongue-in-cheek to a lot of it just the way you could say that a hundred different ways and somebody might get offended yeah but like on on no sleep till brooklyn Yeah. He's in the back because he skis him with horse. It's just the way they say it that it's not. You can tell it's very like, ah, okay. Like, did you just call us horse? I meant that in a good way. Oh, okay, then. I also like I've got more rhymes than JD's got Salinger's. that's classic that's a good fucking line i heard a line i can't remember the song the other day but the chick was like rapping and she's like i fuck with the kid but you do but you know i don't play and i was like oh oh oh damn you made a kid and play reference in and it worked good for you because you're like you're like yeah i saw i saw that dude i saw the dude from kid and play on an interview where he was talking about they were on tour with nwa right when house party came out and they dropped they weren't the famous like detroit show they weren't on where the shit hit the fan but he's like yeah we left to film house party he's like and we were like listen kid and play with nwa i don't think they're gonna like us a whole lot yeah And they were surprised because it was a match made in heaven. Yeah. Now throw these guys on there, and that would have been something else. Yeah. I can't remember. Do you remember the late night appearance where they, were they, did they, were they, oh, were they Neil Young's backing band? I remember They were somebody's backing band on Letterman or something for one night. They were Elvis Costello's backing band on Saturday Night Live once. So that's another good one then, yeah. Because I swear it was Neil Young, like, keep on rocking the free world or something they did on Letterman or some shit with him. I should find that. Yeah. It might be the Saturday Night Live one that I'm thinking of, but it's definitely worth a Google. For me, I came across the Beastie Boys when I was a teenager. I had a buddy that was really into rap. So it's like ten years ago? 20 years ago? He's like, no, we're not going to talk about that. That's for a different podcast. That's the Ageism in America podcast. I think he showed me Intergalactic, and of course, you know, young Star Trek fan I was, I was like, oh, this shit rocks. Oh, that's one of their best music videos, too. It's not their best music video, although some people think it is. Sabotage. Sabotage. That's classic. I mean, that's got to be in the top music videos of all time. Sometime I want to get a group Halloween costume going where we all dress as the Beastie Boys from the Sabotage video. Just get the wigs and the mustaches and the thrift store dress shirts. It's funny because I incorporated Sabotage into one of my songs that's going to be on the album that I do live. Oh, cool. Because it's talking about sabotage. They left me in the dark. And the song ends, and it's just the beat playing. And we yell, listen all y'all, it's a sabotage. Oh, that's cool. Listen all y'all, it's a sabotage. Just like as an homage to that. Because, I mean, it's just a great song. It's a great video. At the time, I lived in a smaller Midwestern town. I was a racist little boy, as most white boys are growing up in rural communities. Oh, you're going to get some hate mail on that. Probably. I'm just being honest. At the time, I wouldn't have considered myself racist. It's one of those things, you move to a city, and then you actually live around black people, and you're like, oh Like, everything I hear about North Omaha is a myth, basically. Mr. Rittenhouse would like to have a conversation with you. Well, at the time, I don't know if I was being a quote-unquote honorable racist, but I wouldn't listen to rap because I'm like, whoa, that music's not for me. Well, see, and again, that's not you being racist. That's a product of your environment and upbringing at any given time. You know, like, that's not Well, I'd still classify it as racism. That's what a lot of racism is. Like, it's I feel like there's conscious racism, you know, but racism should be condemned all across the board. But there's like in that situation where it's like, you don't really see it that way. And then you come to the city and you meet people of different colors and stuff. you're like oh oh oh i realize what oh yeah yeah that's exactly what happened with me yeah and see and that's the difference between somebody who's racist and somebody who just and hasn't experienced i'm just saying that because i want to clarify there's different kinds of racism not everyone is clan level racist oh yeah yeah i just meant that to clarify that steve is like the like steve and dave are like the 2 like least racist people i've probably ever met so we just just wanted to clarify that with a written house comment because you know i hope that guy falls off a fucking bridge but whatever he's he is aging a lot like he's like in his early twenties and he looks like he looks like an uncircumcised penis at this point because the fat around him is swallowing his head so he's doing this and he's going that's a visual gag I'm pretending to stick my head out of a uncircumcised foreskin yeah out of the foreskin or birth whatever no the birth is like Yeah. Well, so, yeah, at the time, I think it was it was like these guys. And of course, Eminem was huge when I was a teenager. Oh, it's like, oh, they're white. I can listen to their music. So So, yeah, I really enjoyed the Beastie Boys as a teenager. I thought it was cool that they used a Beastie Boys song in that Star Trek movie to destroy the alien fleet. I thought that was pretty cool. One of the one of the one things I liked about the J.J. Abrams Star Trek is they made Captain Kirk just this Beastie Boys fan for no reason. I thought that was a nice detail. I do think of one time I, by coincidence, was listening to the Beastie Boys when driving on a gravel road, and I did get to sabotage, and I started laughing because I was driving on a gravel road, and that made me think of Star Trek. when i was in man caves are for cavemen uh when uh mca died we uh we played the their song a grade on mojo great one very last minute like i think we like rehearsed it like right before we went to the gig um and i thought it was a lot of fun so i kept wanting him to keep it in the set list but pete didn't want to keep it in the set list to the point that he ripped it off of our like list of songs and then he ate it Pete, the brother I've never met. We're going to have you 2 on a podcast at some point. I will not forget this transgression. A Peter never forgets. You've met Pete. I don't know if he has. I met Pete many years ago. I think it was at the Hideout or something. You ran sound for Gong Farmer when Pete was the drummer. Oh, that's right. I did. Yeah. Okay. Well, someday we're going to have the Peterson brothers together and we'll, maybe we'll do a, I know Pete wanted us to do a hip hop album. So it's ironic. He's not the first one, but we'll all do a hip hop album together with him. But I'd like to do a public enemy one, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to do a public enemy album. Ooh, there's some good ones. I'm going to throw out the name Ash Nico in there. Ash Nico is fucking, she's a hybrid artist, but she can flow like nobody's business, but she can sing. Ash Nico is a different beast. All together. Yeah. Like, just, yeah, very Her Queen Herbie is really good. Yeah. Oh, there's a lot of good current stuff. Yeah, like What is there? A Scene Queen? Scene Queen is really good, too. Dochi's good. Yeah. Dochi, yeah. Yep. I've got one of her Spooky Coochie. Yeah. And it starts with a skit, and the kid's knocking on the door, and she's like, Oh, goddammit, what do you want? What the fuck? Are you supposed to be a tampon or something? Get the fuck off my porch, bitch. Yeah. I just started listening to it because it came up randomly on YouTube and it was like Spooky Coochie and I was like, story of my fucking life. All right. My favorite Dochi song is called Alter Ego. That's a good one, too. And it's my cat's least favorite song because I pick her up and make her dance to it. Hated by cats across the country. I never intended for people to make their cats dance to my music, but I guess it is what it is, and I'm, you know, I'm really happy now. Yeah. Maybe I'll save this for her when we do a Dochi episode, but one of my favorite things about her as a performer is she's really good at filling the space between beats with little vocalizations and grunts. Yeah, just really good at knowing where to where to leave space where to put where to put something just like yeah all that was filthy in my mind i mean that could be that could be considered yeah i'm sure yeah just like that you know stuff like that yeah I was too close. I was too close. Speaking of filling space, but I guess to bring it back around, the point is that probably every one of these artists that we've mentioned has been influenced by the Beastie Boys in some way, shape, or form. Oh, definitely. Even if they don't realize it. Before we started the mic, we were talking about how Eminem paid homage to the cover of this album with his Kamikaze, which I thought was a pretty good album when I listened to it. You know what's funny about that? That album was actually only announced about 5 minutes before it came out. It came out on midnight, and I got a notification saying, Eminem Surprise drops an album in like 5 minutes. And I was like, nope. I was fucking on it. I bought that shit right away, and I still listen to it. I'm like That, man, that first one on there when he goes after the fucking critics and shit, is I don't know that there's ever been another single artist that, like, has gone after the critics the way he has. Yeah. Continuously. Like, and the Beastie Boys, they did it a little different. They were like, well, we're awesome musicians, and we rock, so We're not going to acknowledge all the hate. And plus, in their heyday, the Internet wasn't what it is now either. So there was a lot of separation there. They weren't hearing, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know. We are back after some technical difficulties. If anything seems awkward. Oh, well. We all had to poop. Yeah, we all had to poop at the same time. Yeah, we held hands. Yeah, we held hands and we went in Steve's hot tubs. And hopefully the neighbors that made eye contact with us aren't calling the cops, but we'll see. They won't call the cops until they realize that we shitted in their hot tub. Yeah. Baby Ruth! Baby Ruth! That'd be really weird because it's been broken for like 5 years. That's because we pooped in it. It doesn't need to be working to poop in it. No, not at all. Alright, so today We're looking at a classic album that I'm sure we're all very familiar with. Dave, this is one of the ones that we listened to before we started the podcast, where we were just hanging out after band practice, like listening to records. So this one you can kind of say is a precursor to the podcast. Yeah. Kind of helped inspired the podcast. Yeah. My copy I have because my stepdad gave me his record collection. So shout out to John. I've listened to it many times since. Well, John must be kind of cool because he has Beastie Boys. But is he not cool now because he gave you Beastie Boys and that's what made him cool? Well, they don't listen to fucking records. My dad gave me all of his records when he got rid of his record player when he and my mom moved into a one-story house. you know, that's just how it goes. You downsize at some point. Well, I know John listens to a lot of rap, so his, his music preferences are probably still cool. Although some of the weirder ones in my collection also came from him. So yeah, it's kind of like a best of bread situation where it's like, where did this come from? Oh, it just appeared in my, my record collection. You know, I would say that like, rosemary or asiago bread's probably the best of the bread but like marble rye is pretty much up there too see i like yeah i love me a marble right like a pumpernickel or marble rye dude just with with butter and with butter and uh over easy eggs so you're like dumping it in in the yolk like first thing in the morning with a nice uh cup of strong black coffee i did that this morning hungry I did some chai tea and I went to the restaurant depot and I got these individually wrapped like butter croissants. So I put those in. See what I do? I tell people the trick is when you want to preheat something, like to reheat something, don't wait until the oven's 350. Set that oven to preheat and immediately put it in there. And by the time it's preheated, your shit will be cooked evenly and it won't fucking burn. So I put those in there and heated those up right. Make a couple fried eggs like that, runny yolks. some uh sausage patties and some aged cheddar cheese yeah fucking big ass croissant breakfast sandwiches out of that shit yeah oh yeah i love i love making like breakfast sandwiches with the runny eggs too because then like as you're eating it you know the yolk is spilling down your chin onto the plate and then you can just kind of mop it up with the last bits of the sandwich at the end it's It's a lot like eating pussy. I'm not going to lie. It gets in your beard. You sop it up at the end. I mean, I don't know if you guys are being monetized. I don't know if you can say that on here. Say what you want. Oh, perfect. Then, yeah. No, I just probably won't post this episode in work slack now. But I don't think anyone listens when I post things in work slack. Well, just be like, dude, about 30 minutes in, about 37 minutes in, he talks about eating pussy and getting in his beard for a minute. So from minutes 35 through 43, just don't listen to it. Like, it's fine. Also, I don't think anyone at work would care. Plus, who's going to get offended by that? There's only one type of person that will get offended by that. And they're not listening to this show anyways. And that's dudes that are scared of the cotton candy. And I'm sorry, bro, if you're scared of the cotton candy. um i don't know you're kind of selfish and you're a little bit of a weenie yeah yeah i'm sorry dude don't don't trust a dude who won't do it yeah you think the beastie boys ever turned down some cotton candy no no no never dude not once not a once not in here not a bitch nope nope the beastie boys right to license to ill yeah Like, that's because they was fucking. Yeah. They was fucking. They had good medical coverage and shit, but they was fucking. That's why I was licensed to ill. They're licensed to ill. About to catch some shit. So, Licensed to Ill is the debut, debut, debut, debut. It's the debut studio album. It's the debut studio album. Yeah, that makes sense. But they had been together for a long time at this point. I'm going to use the fact that I read a book about them to fill in that detail. Oh, there you go. What the fuck? I didn't know we had homework. I'm over here looking at titties on OnlyFans and shit and I find out we had homework. Goddamn. Didn't they form in like, in like, for a long time they were a hardcore punk band and then they figured out that they were good at the rap thing and pivoted. That sounds familiar. Because their last release before that was an EP called Pollywog Stew released in 19 82, which I've listened to and I enjoyed. Yeah. What is a Pollywog? I think it's a frog type mythical being. What the fuck? No, I got to Google. Hold on. We're going to Google. Let's see. You guys want to see something cool. Watch this. Hey, Google, make me a sandwich. Oh, you bitch. Normally she's like, poof, you're a sandwich. What is a pollywog? Is a baby frog or toad? A pollywog is another word for a tadpole. The earliest stage in the life of an amphibian. Okay, I was close. This album was released November 15th, 1986 by Def Jam and Columbia Records. Rick Rubin was the producer. Hell yeah. Some of some of his best work. We talked about Rick Rubin before during the System of a Down episode, so Not the first time, certainly won't be the last time, because he's had his hands on a lot of my favorite records. I don't think Rick Rubin exists. I think he's like birds. It's a government conspiracy. Have you ever seen a baby pigeon? No, you haven't. So, you know, Rick Rubin, like birds, he doesn't exist. He's like J.K. Rowling. Yeah, sure, there's one racist chick spewing nonsense, but it's like 82 people that wrote that book. It's a myth. The group originally wanted to title the album Don't Be a F*** It, but Columbia Records refused to release the album under this title. Good thing they did, honestly. I don't know if I would have stuck it out with the Beastie Boys if that was the case, honestly. But here's the question, because this got me in an uproar. So Money for Nothing by Dire Straits, right? Yeah. He says that in the song. He does. And it was explained to me, and even though it was meant, he basically explains a year later, I shouldn't have said it, but it was me talking from the perspective of the shitty delivery guy. Yeah. But it didn't come across that way. Right, yeah. So I'm kind of wondering if it's one of those sort of things where it's like, don't be a f***er. It is like, hey, listen to you homophobic, racist, bigoted motherfucker. Don't be a f***er. Like Big Gay Al from South Park. Get over our town, you f***er. I think it's like that Louis C.K. bit, I think, where everybody was calling people that when he was growing up. He says that he never took it as like being uh anti-gay or anything it's like i could see that but yeah knowing everything we know now about how it makes gay people feel it's like it's i'm uncomfortable hearing it or saying it oh but then you know like the dire straits thing like i can still listen to dire straits i can still listen to that song but they didn't name the album that you know yeah like naming the album that would like well and i don't think i don't think they were being homophobic when they wanted to Well, I don't know what I would say if they were. Yeah. If it's one of those things where it's like, you know, I would never call a gay person. It's like I would never call. So it's like, I guess while I agree, it's a good idea. They shouldn't use the word. On the flip side of that, it's only going to be offensive as you make it. You know what I mean? And the Beastie Boys didn't If they put out that album title, and you as a gay man Not anybody here. I'm just pointing at a random person that doesn't exist next to me. He's pointing at my cat. Yeah, we're pointing at the cat. I called your cat a f***ing c***. But as a gay man listening to it, am I going, were the Beastie Boys calling me a You see what I mean? There's a couple schools. I'm with you personally. I think it's just a bad idea. It's a bad idea. Because nobody knows your intention behind it. And in the book, the 2 surviving members said, yeah, that was a bad idea. We're sorry that we ever considered that. And they kind of just left it at that. And that's pretty much it. That's all I really need to say. We didn't do it. We almost made a bad decision. We didn't make a bad decision, but you know how that goes. I mean, God anymore. If you're like, I had an idea that was stupid and I didn't do it. People are like, dang guys, the devil. But I said I had a thought and that thought was bad and I didn't do it. Like, damn. But then again, though, consider this, though. You had NWA in the eighties as the bad boys of hip hop. Oh, that's another album we should do. The Beastie Boys released. Don't be a You've got You've got Because, okay, so for example, with racism and things like that, you've now got white boys that aren't really from the hood being these fucking antagonists. It could have been Manson-level racism. of fucking trolling, but they're nice guys and they chose not to do that. But imagine a world where they did and the Beastie Boys are the bad boys now, not Motley Crue, not NWA, the Beastie Boys are the bad boys. I wonder if they just would have never taken off. I don't think they would have taken off. Like if it would have been called that, I think it probably wouldn't have, it wouldn't have found the same level of purchase at least. At least not that one. They would have had an uphill battle after that one, I think. Anyway, Kerry King of Slayer made an appearance on the album playing lead guitar on Fight for Your Right and No Sleep Till Brooklyn. Really? And he also appeared in the videos. According to Kerry King, he wasn't into the Beastie Boys. Rick Rubin was also Slayer's producer. And he's like, oh, this will get Slayer's name out there. In his typical Grumpy Kerry King way. He could just be like, oh yeah, it was cool to be in a video. He's like, no, I did it for Slayer. No, he was in the videos, but most people don't know he was in the videos because he's actually only a foot and a half tall in real life. He looks like a little basketball running around with a guitar and a goatee. He looks like Wilson from fucking Cast Away. But fat. The No Sleep Till Brooklyn video I think is my favorite video from this album. Um There's so many great songs. We'll get into which song I like the most. That's the one where the guy that books the venue is just like, ah, we only do rock bands here, right? Yeah. Oh, my God. This is the band. Hold up a record. Talking about celebrity cameos and videos just made me think about, oh, Now I fucking lost it. Sam Kinison wild thing. Slash everybody is in that fucking video. Yeah. We got to do the Sam Kinison. Oh, my God. I think I love you. Did you ever see him on Married with Children as Al Bundy's guardian angel? Uh-uh. Oh, my God. Sam Kinison as a guardian angel is as fucking funny as you think it would be. Oh, right here it says CBX released a video album of the 5 Licensed to Ill videos on Laserdisc. I'll bet you that's one of the expensive ones. Oh, I bet. I noticed, like, it's easy to find just, like, mid-level movies that, you know, they released here. Like Judgment Night. Yeah. But I wanted to find a Black Sabbath concert on Laserdisc, and I think they only came out in Japan where Laserdisc was more popular. So thus, not only is it more expensive because they made less of them, but also to get it shipped from Japan is outrageous. Oh, I have one. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I've been trying to track all those LaserDiscs down, because they haven't been used. They're probably sitting in OPS storage. Like, that's literally probably where they're fucking sitting. Yeah. And they're probably shit now. Yeah. But, man, if I could get a hold of some of those I have the original Star Wars pressing of A New Hope on Laserdisc. Oh, man. Remember when you bought Spinal Tap on Laserdisc, and it came to you broken because the guy didn't pack it right, and he tried to bully you into giving him a positive review? He's lucky I didn't, because I gave him neutral feedback on that, and he threw a tantrum, and he's lucky I didn't. decide to be petty and change it to negative or you know drive to your house and stab you with a broken piece of laser disc yeah sorry that's just me well that's funny because i ordered another copy of the spinal tap and it came in a box and he called me ignorant about shipping a spot uh shipping uh laser discs i'm like i've ordered hundreds of at least records and i've ordered dozens of laser discs everyone ships it in a box Yeah, it's a special box for that. You ship it the same way you ship a record. He shipped in a bubble mailer, put 2 thin pieces of cardboard around it, and called it good. And he's like, you should be mad at the mail handling company. I'm like, well, I am, but you still have to package it sufficiently. Anyway, we've talked about that on multiple episodes now. The artwork for the album. This We'll give to Dave to describe. It is an airplane, a jet of some kind. An American Airlines Boeing 7 27. 7 27. OK, 7 27. Boeing. Oh, no, it's going to crash. Current of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this one. So unfortunately, we can't blame this one on Trump. Fuck. Yeah, we'll do it anyways. He was around in 86. Fuck him. Yeah. It was Reagan's fault then. No, Trump was in the Kremlin, though, so we'll blame him. All plane crashes from now forever. Get Buddy Holly the day the music died. Trump's fault. Yeah. The tale of it says Beastie Boys. And yeah, when you open it or look at the back, the plane is crashed into the side of the cliff. What appears to be Tower in New York. Yeah. The Beastie Boys did 9 11. The Beastie Boys did 9 11. look at them they're right there they're like yeah look at that and it looks so the funny thing about this is if you were to look at it by today's standards the inside of this album cover that guy looks like Tim Curry in fucking Rocky Horror Picture Show that guy looks like Danny Gonzalez that's a reference look it up he has a couple different YouTube channels he's fantastic I love his stuff look him up and then that guy just looks like he's like I just walked up and these cats were taking a picture so I jumped in Like, you know, he looks like Booger from Revenge of the Nerds, dude. He looks like anorexic Booger. But yeah, if you open it up, it's the band posing in front of the globe statue outside the World Trade Center, the wiry one. Oh, fuck! Oh, that's funny. They did do it. Oh, no. Oh, fuck. Oh, I didn't realize that's what that statue was. Goddamn. The Beastie Boys did 9 11. oh fuck is that statue still there or is that gone too I have no idea I haven't been to New York in a long time I don't think that's there anymore no yeah I'm guessing probably not fuck did we just wait what was 911 that was 2001 yeah Oh, fuck, you can laugh about it now. We're all right. Yeah. 20 years, you can laugh about it. We've been laughing about it for a while. Yeah. I'm a piece of shit. Like, for instance, a really funny thing that happened that has nothing to do with anything that I'm going to go into was around the time, you know, when Barbenheimer was a thing and people were making, like, mushroom cloud memes and, like, making it pink with Barbie and all that. some guy in japan decided hey i'm gonna show how offensive this is by doing barbie 911 memes because americans will see that it's offensive and then everyone like that i know in america has thought that 9 11has been funny for at least a decade so so everyone just latched on to it but not in the way he wanted it to so yeah hey adam what knock knock Who's there? 9 11. 911 who? You said you'd never forget. Oh, that brings me to my next point. I stole that from Dave. Would anybody like a drink? Would anybody like a little drink? It's a mango. It's very good. It's got a nice mouthfeel to it. It's not super burned. My little segment here brought to you vodka. They ain't paying me to drink it. Not yet. Bleep. Sure, yeah. Have one of those. They're very chill. And they're, if you go to They're 2 for a dollar. So you can buy a whole sleeve for like 5 bucks. Yes, we can't say we have to bleep out what we're drinking, but we're having just a little sip here. Pouring one out for the homies. Don't you drink whiskey sometimes? I've never liked it. Oh, fair enough. It's vodka, Russian. I figured you'd be all about it. No, I'm autistic, so I can't handle alcohol well. Usually I mix it with stuff. Because Steve's a fucking communist. Alright. On the inside On the inside, we got some concert pictures. Looks like he's throwing Is he throwing a beer there? I think that's a beer. That's ropey semen. That's what it looks like when you shake up an open beer and throw it around on stage. The name of my next album is Ropey Semen. It's called I Need More Water is the first track. Then they're goofing off in the picture down here. On the other side, it just says Def Jam recording is really big. Def Jam had a killer lineup at this point. Have you guys ever played Def Jam Vendetta? No. Oh my God. Imagine beating somebody's ass with like hip-hop stars dude it's it's it's like a fighting wrestling game but you get to be you can be beth and man you can be all kinds of fucking people and just beat the shit out of other rappers because it's the end of the day right like rap beefs are really just 2 grown men writing angry poetry back and forth to each other i do i did i did are you guys gonna kiss or what like god i i did enjoy the kendrick drake beef a lot i i Oh, my God. I like Kendrick a whole lot better than Drake than I did before, and so I'm glad that he won. I love that Kendrick did the shit during the Super Bowl. That one was so one-sided. When Kendrick during the Super Bowl was like, A minor! I was like, no, he didn't. No, he didn't, dude. And honestly, I've been watching Drake since he was in the wheelchair in Degrassi. Yeah. So watching that. I painted that. I was like, he's in a wheelchair, but I kind of want to push him down a flight of stairs. He seems like somebody who would look at my balls in the shower. And nothing wrong with that, but he'd do it in a creep way. He'd lick his lips when he does it. I'm going to push you downstairs now. And that shit-eating grin Kendrick got at the Super Bowl, what do you say, Drake? The picture is legendary. I listened to it because my son's a huge Kendrick Lamar fan. And I listened to it And I'm in the minority here, I know. It was far better than what Drake did. Yeah. But it didn't impress me. I just, I tried, I didn't. I wanted to like it, but I have to say his music's not for me. That's what I'm saying. And that's my genre. Like, that's what I do. But I told Memphis, that doesn't mean that it's bad. Anything that we say on this, anything that you guys say on any episode, doesn't mean that anybody's saying necessarily that you're a piece of shit for liking this. We're just saying that these are our opinions. Yeah. If Sean was here, he'd probably say you're a piece of shit if you like Iced Earth. Yeah. We're not going to judge you just because you like Iced Earth doesn't mean that you did an insurrection. It does mean that you probably do meth and fuck your sister. But, you know, that's your business, man. And when your baby comes out with 3 eyes, as long as my tax dollars don't go to cover in that, I'm okay with John Schaefer because he has 2 tongues now. Like, whatever, dude. I'm fine. You have 4 ass cheeks. My opinion on the new Kendrick album, it doesn't have the diss tracks on it, but I liked it a whole lot better than his previous album, which was Mr. Morale and the Big Stepper. I thought that one was incredibly disappointing for me. Yeah, I agree. But I really did like one of his really older ones, which is To Pimp a Butterfly. I think that was the high point of his career. That's decent. Yeah. I can agree with that. Yeah. And the thing is about people that are fans of artists like the Beastie Boys and shit, they'll get up in arms if you say anything negative. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. This is just my opinion. I'm not saying, like, who's the worst person I can think of right now? Oh, I don't know. Let's see. cardi b okay i can't stand cardi b like i'm not i'm not a fan yeah but She goes on stage and she does her thing and people have an amazing fucking time at it. It's not for me, but for me to say it's not talent. Well, I'm not a gatekeeper. I'm not the arbiter of what's talent. Like, there's a lot of people that shit on the Beastie Boys. Like, that's not And they continually just crushed it. Just ignored that bullshit and just crushed it. Because music is subjective. And if your goal is to get everybody to like you, you should probably stop now. You're never going to be able to. When I submitted my EP for views, I got plenty of good commentary but i also got plenty of commentary where people are like i don't like your song it gives me anxiety so i mean it's it everybody's different so art's gonna affect everybody differently and and that's it like i might be like you're a piece of shit for liking 5 finger fart box no that's like but if that's what you like and that's what does it for you i still think you punch drywall and drink monster energy drinks all day and you know probably have a fucking ankle monitor but monster mixed with everclear that's not my job i'm not i'm not here to judge you that's uh that's some other deity's imaginary friend in the sky's job to judge you not be dude do i want to hang out with you if you listen to 5 finger fruit punch no i'd probably i probably don't i've actually seen them live i saw them on their first albums tour sorry uh well i went to see uh shadows fall okay um and like he comes out on stage in a bulletproof vest And he takes it off like, oh yeah, that's what they give you when you make a lot of enemies. Nobody wants to shoot you, Ivan Moody. Nobody wants to waste a bullet. I'm sorry. That sounds like posturing to me, honestly. Oh, it is. You know what's going to happen next, right? I mean, that's what they are. They're pure posturing. What's going to happen is Ivan is going to be on stage. and somebody's going to take a shot, and a bunch of dudes are going to tackle him, and he's going to get up and have a ketchup packet on his ear, and be like, see, that's what happens when people don't like you. They take huge shots at you. Huge shots. Big, big shots at you. I don't know why he was British, but that's, that's whatever. It's fine. Remember when his band abandoned him on stage, like mid set. They're like, dude, you fuck. What the fuck are you doing right now? Well, and he just started like fucking around in front of like an entire like audience full of people. And I thought the band was done, but I'll bet you some genius manager, like somehow got them all to look at Aaron Lewis and his stain. oh that fucking guy and now he's back with stain have you they released a new song about 6 months ago and it was him being basically apologizing for being a piece of shit he was like he was literally you listen to the song and he's like basically i was wrong and i'm sorry i hurt your feelings and excluded you because i'm a fucking douche like it's pretty certain His Conservative Country album was even worse than Stain's rock stuff, and that's saying something. Stain break the cycle? That was their pinnacle. That was their pinnacle. Before that, they had Mud Shovel, and were they fucked up? It's been a while since I could See my wiener over my belly. It's been a while, but I can do care. Deep fat fried creed. Yeah. Anyway. You remember when Scott Staff got beat up by 3 11? Remember when Scott Staff was in a sex tape with Kid Rock? I'm not making that up. I do remember that. All right. License to Ill. License to Ill. Produced by Rick Rubin. Big Bob off something crazy. And then Big Bob sold him a car. License to Ill. Produced by Rick Rubin. Co-produced by the Beastie Boys. Head engineer, Steve Et. I know that guy. Mastered by Hallie Weinberg. I think I sucked him off in a Kmart. Cover art by World B. Holmes. In the aisle, dude. I ain't got time for that. I got a mouth to feed. It says right here that Rick Rubin actually played rhythm guitar on No Sleep Till Brooklyn, which is interesting because I didn't know he played an instrument. I never heard of him doing that. Yeah, I don't think he's a real technical like lead type player but he couldn't get it right and he's like listen just give me the fucking guitar it's 3 fucking chords give me the shit and they're like oh if you want to join their fan club you can send a letter to uh 298 elizabeth street in new york we should send for t-shirts and bullshit i'm curious okay so listen everybody listen to this right now steve repeat that address slowly and clearly well i'm gonna bleep it because i'm not gonna no no repeat it because i mean i feel like we should test this out and see if a motherfucker still answers yeah they put it on their album so we're not doing anything that's not right no yeah i mean what's the address come on give it to me you need to bleep it 298 elizabeth street 2 9 8elizabethstreet new york new york new york new york a hundred twelve a hundred and twelve And it says send for t-shirts and bullshit. Send for t-shirts and bullshit. And bullshit. Let's look it up. Let's see what's there now. We'd like you guys to hit him up and see because maybe it's one of their moms. And she'd be like, these are his pissy sheets from when he was 5. I don't fucking know. Maybe they'll send you something cool. I don't fucking know. Or maybe Mike D occasionally checks like a P.O. box now or something. And it's just him with a picture. It's just a picture of him flipping you off. Yeah. Like. dick thanks well it looks like it's just a building yeah which is probably what it was before let's do it yeah everybody please run that back send something to the address in care of what's the name of the show we want to join the beastie boys what's the name of the show dave side one side b so you should send in care of side one side b steven dave and um you know you should you should just you should see what happens and report back because this is the second episode they brought me in for and i would fucking i would kill the third episode the third episode you know what i'm drunk in a little stone so it's fine but uh you know time is an abstract construct um ultimately so but really though honestly like that would be fun as hell if they get any shit from that yeah i will i will come back and i will read every angry fucking email you got from the beastie boys because if this show gets an angry mail from the beastie boys or any of their reps we have hit the pinnacle of of what this show can really achieve. We've started a few. first of all, years ago, we started a few with Scott Bakula. Fuck him. If you're listening, Scott, I'm in a fucking arm wrestling match, dude. Arm wrestling match followed by a pussy eating contest followed by a chugging of Guinness contest. You won't make it past the first round. But, Scott, so we tend to start We don't want to start shit with the Beastie Boys because we love them. However Scott Bakula can eat shit. Scott Bakula can suck my chode. All right. The track listing on License to Ill. The first side. Yeah. Side one, we got rhyming and stealing. Yeah. The new style. She's crafty. Yeah, she is. Posse in effect. Slow ride. Girls. And Fight for Your Right, which was recently covered by Motley Crue, and they did the worst version of that song I have ever heard in my fucking life. We don't even need to talk about that because this whole thing is going to turn into Motley Crue and how Motley Crue has been a So I have a doctor, right? He's a bone cracker. You crack the bones. And he does all the shit for the big stars that come through town and whatnot, which is cool because I'm like I'm just a dude that's drunk in front of the bodega, so it's cool that you fucking do this shit for me, too. And he charges them way more. So years ago, he's at the Motley Crue show at the CHI downtown. It was the Quest Center, I think, at the time. It'll always be the Quest Center to me. Yeah. It'll always be named after a different corporation. Yes. I always wonder if somebody that's not familiar with the city is like, oh, the CHI Health Center. All right, I'm bleeding out. We need to go there right now. I got a broken arm. What the fuck, man? This is the biggest hospital I've ever been in. What the fuck? Why don't we just go in here, Jez? Let's go in there and lay on the floor. We'll be right with you. Promise. But, like, they were there, and he was doing massages because, you know, Mick Mars was sick, and he has bone problems and whatnot. And he gives them massages, and he's sitting in back with them, and he hears Mick Mars just tearing it up. And he's like, dude, who the fuck is that playing? That's Mick. Wait a minute. Mick's sitting right here. And they're like, oh, yeah, that's the tech that plays Mick. They literally have a tech behind the curtain playing his fucking guitar parts on a monitor, like watching him mimicking. I always thought Mick was the only one that played actually live, because I know Nikki Sixx doesn't actually play bass. No, Mick has been hurting for probably close to 30 years. Well, he's not in the band anymore. Yeah, well, because he has a degenerative arthritis bone disease. And so, like, I mean, to their credit, at least I'll give those bastards that. They said, well, bring in somebody so you can still be on stage. And that's kind of why they're getting sued right now. Well, then they kicked him out, so. Yeah, but that brings us back around again to the age of You look at the Beastie Boys rise on this album versus Motley Crue at the time and what these bands were doing, and it's with the way rock and especially hair metal was at that time in was not expected, was not based on, you know, it just, they had everything going against them, more or less. Like, 1, I mean, if you're Molly Crew versus the Beastie Boys, a record company's looking at that and going, proven since 1982 metal, blah, blah, blah, this, that and the other. The Beastie Boys were true pioneers in the art of putting their shit in the forefront. Like instead of going, dude, we can't compare to a Motley Crue or an Alice Cooper Poison, which I believe was 86 also. Yeah, we can't we can't compete with that. Instead of that, they went, we're not the same thing. We're not competing for the same group of fans. So let's go toe to toe. And let's see what happens. That's a ballsy move. That's a career-ending move if you don't plot that correctly. Well, you know, 3 white boys going from hardcore punk to rap. I mean, we've talked about on the show how punk and hip-hop have a lot in common. Oh, definitely. I mean, sound-wise, that's That's a pretty big change. And was a pretty ballsy move, but it sounds like they were just kind of just having fun with it. And I think that's why it's probably why they had so much success is because it was so earnest. Oh, I agree. Those guys, you don't ever see them not having fun. And that's the thing I've always said about this business is that it's a job, but it's a fun job. And when it stops being all job and no fun And time to kick rocks and, you know, do something else when it's not fun anymore, man. I get there are times, you know, where it's just loading, unloading, dealing with bullshit. It's not fun. Yeah. But then you get up there for 45 minutes and for 45 minutes or what hour you're God. And that's what we live for. That's what we live to do. And I think even at the height of their popularity, these cats lived to play in front of people and throw it down. And to me, that's the true, like mark of a great musician yeah like we're willing we don't yeah great we got we got a great album right now it's doing great things but ultimately fuck that man I want to get out on stage and be in front of these fucking people and interact like that yeah To me, that's just me personally, but that's the mark of what makes artists good artists or great artists. Did the Beastie Boys have a long run? No. They had spots here and there where they were doing great, but they were having fun. They were respecting their audience, and they weren't doing a disservice to their audience by caving into pressure. that's art and that's why i think people forget about the beastie boys is that well it's white rappers in the eighties this shit is an art piece yeah as much as you go to the louvre and see the mona lisa or anything else this is this this piece is not just an album it's it's a piece of historical american art Yeah. Well, and then, like, one thing I really respect about them, too, is, like, how long they would take between albums if they needed to. Like, if they weren't feeling it for a while, they would just keep trying until they had whatever it was that they needed to make the next album work. And so you would have, like, long gaps with no new Beastie Boys record, but then they'd come back with something amazing and completely different out of left field because they took their time with it. I think a lot more musicians need to do that because there, there are some bands that just on a like clockwork, like pump out an album every 2 years. And it's like, did you really like, if you took your last 4 albums and took the best songs off of that, you'd have one good, like great album. Yeah. Well, it's like the label asked me about a month or 2 ago, like, when do you want the album to come out? We want it to come out here. And I was like, Nope, I cannot give you a date until I feel like it's ready. It might be the end of the year, but we have 19 other releases from artists and we have like I don't want to drop it until it's. A hundred percent ready. If that takes a year to do that, it's about the integrity of the fucking song. Well, that's why I've been working on my solo album for since 2019. It's I'll release it when I think it's done. And I'm glad I don't have like a contract that's forced me to push it out because I've learned so much about songwriting and production just in the course of like working on that album. Oh, yeah. And that's one thing that I like is that I'm not forced to any arbitrary deadline to release stuff. At least not yet. Not yet. We're getting going. But for right now, at least I can release it as I see fit. If I'm like, let's release a the next single on july 5th well then it's july 5th you know because i think it's ready and it's i feel like it's respectful to the audience like this is good this is i'm not going to give them trash i'd rather give them nothing like listen to the good stuff you like then give you garbage don't want to give them uh adam uh farting on a snare drum right If we can sample it, add a little reverb, loop that shit, then maybe. Maybe. Once I tricked my wife into being on an album back in, like, I asked her to check a mic for me. I was like, those words on the screen, I just need you to sing them. I'm going to leave the room. She goes, really? I was like, just sing them. That's why I need you to test the mic levels for me. And she said, okay. And to this day, you have to listen real close. But if you listen real close on a particular song, Her albums are, her vocals are on that album. And to this day, she won't come near a live mic with me. I don't care if it's live in a venue anywhere else. I'm not coming near you with a mic because I do not trust you now. Like, well, you know what? It was beautiful and it was natural and you didn't know that you were something you can do once yeah i got caught like that uh my producer everybody called me up because they were like about that video you took on friday and i was like what video is hammered i really don't remember it's a video of me doing karaoke with some random dude from fucking detroit and we're like dancing and like sinking shit i've never i don't even fucking remember i've never met this dude in my life But the label's like, this is great. I'm like, okay, so what you're telling me is just go get drunk and do karaoke at random places now. Oh, well, that's pretty good. Put that over one of your own songs for the music video. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what I thought. I was like, this is great fucking footage. I'm going to use this and just put my own shit over the top of it. It'll be great. All right. We've been talking for an hour without listening to music. Yeah, let's spin this shit. We're back from side one of License to Ill by the Beastie Boys. What do you guys think? Solid side of music. Yeah. Yeah. And it's one of those honestly where it's like you don't. I don't know, I guess you don't pay attention to the time on it. Like, this album's 44 minutes, that's 20someodd minutes. It doesn't really seem like that. It didn't feel like it, no. Like, it's not There's no I like to say, like, because my approach to making an album is all thrill or no filler. And I feel like that's kind of what the Beastie Boys were about, too. There may not be songs that are girls or whatever that was on the radio, but if you listen to it end-to-end, You're not going to skip anything. No. You're going to hit play and you're going to let it ride. I also like how high energy the whole thing was, even though it was kind of slow tempo for the most part. Just like a slow, steady beat, but everything sounded huge. Everyone sounded enthusiastic. How they would rap, but then everyone would shout along to the last word of a measure was iconic like people joke about it now but that was iconic and like it was great how they did it well yes it sounds like they're absolutely having a blast making this and yeah you know it's it's infectious it makes you feel like you're in on the fun as well exactly And, you know, like I was saying, like right when I hit the record button, it's a lot of the other rap groups at this time. They're rapping about a lot heavier of subjects. And Beastie Boys just definitely we're kind of like it sounds like what a bunch of like teenagers, early 20 year old people would be rapping about like pirates. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, overall, I think, like I said, it sounds It's a lot of infectious fun. Yeah. I really like the use of like the 8 Oh 8 drums throughout it. Yeah. The snare too. That snare was just iconic. I mean, and a lot of times people don't think about. I don't think people give as much attention to drummers as they deserve because the drums in these songs are carefully crafted. Like it's, it's very, I think there's a, there's a good mix of programming along with like actual playing and there, there's a lot of earworms in it. And I like how I like like the big, dirty, you know, like distorted 8 or 8 snare sound to like I think they double it up a lot of the time. I love using the 8 or 8 for our song Chili Con Carnal because it's it's it's iconic. It's such an iconic sound. Yeah. Track by track, rhyming and stealing. Like you said, it's about pirates. I noticed that the riff they use is the Black Sabbath sweet leaf riff. I think somebody is actually playing it. I don't think they took it from the Sabbath album. But overall, yeah, it's a lot of fun rapping about pirates. Yeah, it's a great opener. Yeah, and it might be my favorite on this side, if you don't count Fight for Your Right. It is a great one. When I think of Rick Rubin production, this is the song I think of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Classic. Yeah. Just has Ruben's fingerprints all over it, which are not. Yeah. Put it close to my mouth, Steve. Oh, I fell down again. Oh, then it went back up. Did you see that? A fucker went boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, because it wants me to talk through my ass, which is what I normally do. So the mic stand has a half chub. uh no that would be me i'm a whole chub chub's bumper so you know people realize people think it's because oh you like sandwiches and you're a fat guy no when they realize a chub is just another name for a little half chub you know what i'm saying they're gonna get mad one of the one of the like co-owners label was like i know what you're doing and i was like what do you mean he's like chubbs that means a half stock that means a half wiener He goes, I know what you're doing right now. And I was like, and it's good though, right? He's like, it's hilarious because nobody knows. And they're like, Chubbs, what's up? They're just really saying half hard wiener. He's like, that's pretty fucking funny. I was like, yeah, I took that page from the Tool playbook. Do you know why Tool named themselves Tool? Does anybody know? why why because they thought it would be funny to see people wearing a t-shirt that says tool on it i fucking swear to god like that's a real story like they were like people are walking around your fucking tool like this is great well like steely dan steely dan is a dildo yeah did you ever in the interview with steely dan where the dude asked him about uh yacht rock and he was like this interview's over yeah he's like fuck you this interview's over we're not going to talk about this fuck off and i'm like listen i like steely dan so don't call it yacht rock because that's going to make me hate steely dan because if you have a yacht I'm sorry, but if you're listening to this program and you have a yacht, I'm not sure why you're listening to this program. Considering what me and Dave say about billionaires on a few episodes, it would be kind of interesting. If you do have a yacht, what I'd like you to do is take 3 steps back and literally fuck your own face right now. That's what I'd like you to do, but not in the way that you enjoy it. Like you often do. I want you to do it in the way of like, I don't know, my best friend's going to get murdered unless I suck this dick. You're not going to like it. You're going to hate it. I want you to hate fuck your own cock with your face. If you own a yacht, that's what I want you to do. If you have a yacht, I want you to take it off the coast of Spain into orca infested waters and just let nature take its course. Speaking of Spain, I saw something interesting today. Did you know that after a five hundred year tradition, Mexico has banned bullfighting? Oh, fuck. They have finally banned bullfighting. That's good. People are now calling on Spain to do the same. Five hundred year tradition and it's now gone. And I think that's awesome because I found something out today when I read that. Do you know what happens when the bull wins? They kill it. You know what happens when the bull loses? They kill it. Bingo. So I thought that was really interesting. Although, randomly random thought, if you play Tony Hawk Pro Skater, there's the bullfighting arena and a bull will run you over and fuck you in the ass. But if you do the Chico's and turn on God Mode and Infinite Grind, that is your best friend. Because then you can just play that game with your friends and see who gets the highest score. I think 2 of my favorite heads of state right now are the President of Mexico and the Prime Minister of Spain. So like Claudia Scheinbaum of Mexico and Pedro Sanchez of Spain, they're the They're the ones who are standing up to the bullshit the most out of anyone. Well, if they really want to end bullshit, literally, then the guy from Spain should be like, hey, no more bullfighting. Yes. We will give Social Security to the Matadors. That's what we will do, because we don't want you to not have jobs, but we will train you and teach you how to do butchering and things like that. Things you're used to. And we'll give you new jobs and whatever, but matadors, you can just wear your capes and show off for tourists. We'll figure something out for you. You know how Trump was telling NATO that all the members should spend more money on the military? Pedro Sanchez was like, no, we're not doing that. Pedro Sanchez also was, like in 2018 during his first term as prime minister, he was the he was the one who told who told everyone, hey, we're not going to have Francesco Franco in the Cemetery of Honor anymore. And so they moved his remains. So the fascist dictator that won the Spanish Civil War is no longer buried in honor as of 20 18. Good. He's also from the Socialist Party. Sanchez is. Hey, Steve, I got a question for you. I'm also on my phone, too. Hey, well, hold on. That would be a yes, right? Well, of course. That would be a yes. It doesn't matter. That's going to be an inside joke of the show. But you just need to know that AJ Applegate, that Approved. You are approved. Yes, you are Yes, you will be in the cabinet. Yes, you will be in the cabinet of the new government. Well, speaking of the new government, next song, The New Style. I like the way the beat would They would kind of drag the drums out some. That was really cool. I liked the emulator stabs. I also liked how the Drop is later referenced. Drop! All the way in 1999 on Intergalactic off of my personal favorite. I'm not going to say it's the best because I think the best is their second album, Paul's Boutique. But like my personal favorite record of theirs. Hello, Nasty. that's uh actually my uh screen name hello nasty yeah like you i like the stabbing on that i i like the uh i like the the weird braggadocious nature of the lyrics but it's all like inconsequential like things it's a little it's self-aware about the braggadociousness it's a joke yeah yeah exactly it's a really funny take on that Here's a funny take on that. Would you or won't you? Would you fuck a midget you met on OnlyFans? Yes. Um A hot one. Hypothetically, sure. All right, cool. Just random stuff. Paying the bills over here. My only fans is Milton Graybush, and you can check out pictures of my feet. Sean's wife's only fans is on sale. Is it really? No. Don't play with me, dude, because I will fucking look that shit up right now. Flex's only fan is on sale. Because I will send How do you think Do you think he'd be really upset if I send a fucking Do you know what a tribute is? Do you know what a tribute is? Steve laughed. So he knows what a tribute is. His wife would hunt you down and kick you in the balls. Well, if she has an OnlyFans, why is she mad about it? She does not have an OnlyFans. Oh, well, no. That's a joke from one of our songs. She said that if anyone asks about an OnlyFans because of that song, she's going to kick them in the balls. Well, tell her your legs are too short to slapbox with God's balls. So go ahead and take a shot because, you know, I'll pay 15 bucks to see your cooter. I don't care, dude, whatever. I can't wait to send this clip to Sean. Oh, it's going to be great. Be like, Adam wants to see your wife's cooter. I mean, he's not thirsty for it, but if she's going to show it on sale, I will look. Did you really spend 38 dollars to see a chick's vagina on OnlyFans? Yeah, I did. You know, porn is free, right? Yeah. But this chick specifically, I wanted to see what she had for lunch. So. Whatever, dude. Like, fuck you. Like, you spent 9 dollars on a latte at Starbucks this morning. Kiss my fucking balls, dude. At least I could save this shit and spank to it later. Like, fuck you. Like, whatever, man. I don't know. I can spank to a latte a day later. I mean, you know, when I was in jail and I was arrested and I was forced into a solitary confinement myself, I found it difficult to masturbate to, but not impossible. Yeah. All right. Yeah. New style, though. Great song. She's crafty. Great beat. This is my favorite on the first side. I like the 8 oh 8 mixed with like the real cowbell played live. Yeah, the 8 oh 8 drums and then the voices in the background going off the whole time. It's ridiculous. The guitar. It's funny. Yeah, it's it's a great song. Yeah. Yeah, it's good stuff. It's my favorite on the side because girls and fight for your right have been played a bunch on the radio. So this one's just like this one feels a little more novel in a way. So since we're in this nice ass studio, which if you guys don't know, this dude has a really nice fucking house. It's fucking huge. like 8 bathrooms, 3 bedrooms. It's weird to have 8 bathrooms and 3 bedrooms, but it's like, you know, if it's yellow, let it mellow kind of mentality. So if it's yellow, just go to the next one. It's fine. Don't worry about it. Yeah. But is there, is there, is there, are any of the pissers occupied right now? No, no. Okay. i just wanted to know because i drank a sleeve since i got here so i'm like man i'm gonna have to piss eventually like a russian racehorse getting traced by getting chased by a glue truck at the kentucky derby god damn are you telling us you need to take a piss break Oh, yeah, but we should just keep going because I'll yell from the bathroom. I'll be like, fuck this bitch. I don't think we care. Yeah, posse in effect while Adam pisses. Once, I loved the Beastie Boys so much when I was like 7 or 8 in my parents' basement on the wall. I wrote A.P.P. Adam Peterson. I don't know why I put 2 P's. Whatever. Don't matter. Pussy Master. That's what the second P is for. But, yeah, I put A.P. Peterson and Posse. And I spelled Posse wrong. And I wrote it in 3foot letters on my parents' basement wall. that still remained there years later when we fucking moved out so like fight for your right to party fight for your right to spell posse completely and horribly wrong because you're like 7 or 8 yeah one thing I like the Beastie Boys touched me wait a minute hold on that's gonna get off a whole nother that's no getting off god damn it stop it the Beastie Boys held a spot in my heart because in this day and age if i say the bc boys touched me when i was 8 like god damn dude they're gonna exhume that poor fella like we don't want that like No, the Beastie Boys never touched me, I promise. No Sleep Till Brooklyn was not about playing with 8yearolds from Nebraska. I promise you it wasn't. My notes for this one are essentially the same as the other songs. I like the 8oh8 drums on it. I think the biggest thing my brain latches onto is I don't need 2 mics on me. know but that's funny i was like sir what do you think about this future editing me is gonna hate you i just thought about that the second i did that i was like oh this is gonna fuck it up one thing i liked about this one is just like how much more minimalistic it was than she's crafty but it maintained the same level of energy so like this one was mainly just like drum machine record scratches and like some emulator stabs here and there but it's didn't feel like it was slowing down from anything previously. It was just keeping at that same level. It also sampled a dad rock riff from, I think, Aerosmith. I think that's an Aerosmith song. Oh, yeah, yeah. All right. Adam's still taking a piss, but we'll talk a bit about Slow Ride here. Slow Ride into the Taking a slow ride into the toilet. That's the one with the low rider sample, right? Yep. Yeah. Which is fitting. And they sped it up. I also put strong 8 Oh 8 sound. This seems to be a trend with this album. Oh, very, very much so, man. This one, you could definitely tell they were layering it too. Like this was multiple tracks of like the same drum machine just piled on top of each other, or maybe just like multiple 8 Oh eights playing at the same time because they had money. big studio money, money, eighties, deaf jam records, uh, money. So I'm back. And I just want to say that, you know, having our only fans is fucking great. You know, especially if you know, you know, the person, but you know, walking into the bathroom and that letting them pee on you for 5 bucks is pretty fucking awesome. That's the best only fans I are. I just subscribed, dude. And I got to pee on somebody for 5 bucks. That was great. But what do you think of slow ride? Slow ride is good. Slow ride. Slow ride. Take it easy. Slow ride. Slow down. Come on, baby, one more time. Oh, different, different, different, different slow ride. Slow rides are great. You know, if it's, if it's, slow rides can be, slow rides can be a double-edged sword. I'll just say that. The song, not a double-edged sword. The song cuts right through the bullshit and it's fantastic and makes me think about Fat Bottom, the girls that make the world go round. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think about when I hear slow ride. Next one, a classic. Girls. Well, that's obvious. I mean, that's I've already said enough about getting shit in my beard on this episode, so I mean, I think we know how I feel about that song. Yeah, I like I like the composition of this. Like, I like the This one doesn't have the 8 or 8 really just as like the toy piano and it's just perfect. You know, it reminds me of the beat of this always reminds me of, and I don't know why, cause it has nothing to do with the other that always reminds me of John Candy and uncle Buck. I don't even know why, but it's just, I guess that era, but that's all with that. And, and to not have the bass kicking and a huge beat thumping behind that, just to have the, the, like, that's a ballsy move to fucking release us. Put it on an album is one thing to release it as a single. That's ballsy, dude. Like that, that should, if you look at the history of music of all genres, That should not have worked. I can even picture a record executive being like, you want to release this? The production on it, compared to some of the other stuff, the production on it's not great. It's kind of a demo-esque quality to it. And I think that was obviously done intentionally. And so the genius mind that came up with, okay, let's wrap this up. And It's going to sound like a demo, but it's going to sound like one of the most popular number one hit demos of all time. Yeah. And it worked and it fucking absolutely worked. They said it's one of those cases where instead of overanalyzing it, they looked at it and went. It's a great song. Leave it alone. It's catchy as fuck. Yeah, leave it alone. The piano bit is an earworm. I like the lyrics, too, how they're kind of self-deprecating, self-aware. It's a hapless For a song called Girls and about how he wants girls, it's about striking out, which I think is fun. It's not as braggadocious as some of the other songs do. It's just Gong Farmer has songs about that. Yeah. Written by the other guy. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. It's fun. It's an earworm. It's a classic for a reason. Yeah. And then, of course, another classic, Fight for Your Rights. Probably their most punk-sounding song on this record. Yeah. Besides the one opening the next side, of course. But, I mean, this one's a classic for a reason. It's just great. It's got a great music video. it makes you want to headbang and when I discovered it when I was probably about 16 I mean it's a perfect song for a sixteen year old yeah but it's self aware enough that when you get older and more mature you can there's like some irony to it so you can enjoy it for the irony too so yeah yes What? Let me just put my You ever see some shit on your phone where you're like, I'm done. I'm done for the fucking internet. I'm done with the internet today, dude. I can't. That was just That was too much. When you're expecting titties and you get a colonoscopy, it's Bro, like That's why I was like, I'm going to make that comment right now because this is I really want is Wait a second. Hold on. Wait a minute. Let me Can I get a little Come on, man. Man, we got all this medical advances. Can Stevie Wonder just get a peek? just for a second queen this see some ass and titties for just like half a second just a little haha just a little something like damn can we get stevie to see please stevie listens to the girls and he's like i don't know what that is i'm like i mean you can feel well he can feel but he can't see i mean she might have a million dollar body and a ten cent face stevie don't know Maybe he's got this idea in his head, like, what a naked girl looks like. So if, like, he got sight, and he'd be like, oh, that wasn't what I was picturing at all. Dude, he's probably picturing a Cylon or some shit. He don't even know, dude. This bitch got tentacles. Somebody done fucked Stevie up and told him hentai was a real thing. This bitch got tentacles, and it always goes in your butt. And he's like, oh, I didn't know any better. I don't know, dude. Whatever. A warm, wet mouth is a wet mouth. I don't fucking know him. Stevie Wonder. Like, whatever, dude. Like Ted Nugent, how do you think he got famous? So what did you think of Fight for Your Right? Anthem. Anthem for generations. Yeah. Like, that's an anthem that I feel like just, yeah, goes to previous generations, generations after that. And what's funny is, do you know that they wrote that song as a rib? of what fight for your right to party they wrote that as a rib of kyle douchebag monster energy drinks fuckers that's what they wrote that song as it was a parody of people like party on party on wayne party on garth before that even happened that was their attempt to go God, you guys are so fucking stupid. Like, God, you fucking Pops caught me smoking, man. He says, no way. Mom threw away my best porno mag. Like, no, it's totally them. Like I said earlier about it being tongue-in-cheek and them just being like, you're a doucher. yeah i also like i also like that uh like public enemy did like a response song to it called party for your right to fight which is one of my favorite songs of theirs off of uh it takes a nation of millions told us back album it's great yeah i just bought a shirt at my last show from uh the um Ouija Mac and it's a shirt that's all in white and it's red like looks like blood it's printed and it says see a Nazi stomp a Nazi yeah on the back it has a cartoon version of him just smashing just stomping a Nazi's fucking skull in Memphis bought that shirt because he was like controversy creates cash right I'm gonna fucking wear this shirt everywhere I fucking go I was like Yeah, because honestly, if anybody has a problem with that shirt, they're probably fucking Nazi, dude. I don't understand if anybody's like, no, wait a minute, you can't just hit people. Sit the fuck down, sympathizer. Listen, DOS-fearer, we don't have enough time for your bullshit right now, so just sit down. It's fine. You'll get some gruel. It's fine. We'll feed you. give you a smallpox blanket. It's fine. That's the American way, you know. All right. So sounds like you got to take off. Yes, I do. OK, so we're going to move on to side 2 here. Adam's got to take off because he's a family guy. Hey, Lois, I think I'm Jesus. Listen, listen, listen. So is there, you want a big bowl of beef stew? Tell me, baby, is there any tread left on the tires or is it just like throwing a hot dog down a hallway? Listen, Junior. Listen, just because I got my own show doesn't mean that you can come on here. Oh, I love you, Daddy. Listen, Junior, we have to get back to the thing, so he's going to ask us some questions. So just giggity-giggity. It'll be fine. So we got no sleep till Brooklyn. No Sleep Till Brooklyn. I once knew a stripper named Brooklyn, so the song really gets me in the funny parts. No, Sleep Till Brooklyn, because that bitch was so boring that he'd just go to sleep. Like, I want a fucking stripper, and they're like, yeah, this is very exhausting. No Sleep Till Brooklyn, classic solo, proving again that the Beastie Boys can write a song about traveling and fucking and doing all kinds of crazy shit I have nothing against profanity in music like I don't obviously on this fucking show pussy juice in my beard I don't give a fuck but like they managed to do it without like a lot of fucks and bitches and stuff like that and like I said I have no problem with people using that but they wrote iconic songs in a way that was completely different from the way that everybody else wrote those songs there's nobody often emulated never duplicated but no sleep till brooklyn smithsonian quality yeah uh paul revere again same thing that's a smithsonian quality song if you wanted an origin story of this band Yeah, I get it that it's made up. But if I just heard the Beastie Boys for the first time and I bought this album to check it out, that origin story would be the gospel to me. Not like the narrative would be based on that story. You know what I mean? Like, it was It was solid storytelling, and they spent, what, 3, 4 minutes, and they completed a whole story. You understood everything that was going on. You understood how all the parts connect for a song on your debut album. This was better than connect the dots or color by numbers. This was, come on, little guy, I'm going to guide you to this. I'm going to guide you. This was, instead of color by numbers bullshit, this was like seeing an eye dog. It was that accurate, you know what I mean? You didn't have to use your brain at all to understand what was going on and what they were trying to do. uh hold it now hit it hold it now hit it so like i mean that's like my second like motto in life my first motto is if it doesn't fit spit on it like that's my first but that that right there is uh that's a motto to live by number one and number 2 it's um once you've got no sleep till brooklyn and fight for your right and stuff that's one of those ones that i think is vastly underrated but people listen to it as a whole and they go because i think honestly this album really should be listened to as a whole It really does because all the songs are great individually, but as a whole, it paints this picture for somebody who maybe doesn't know who the Beastie Boys are. It paints this picture of what this band is and what they do and I mean if you've gotten to this point in the album and you're not into it I'm not really sure why you're still listening to it because it's already been gold and you're still not into it, I mean, I would recommend listening to all the other songs, but damn, bro, if you're at this point in the album and you don't get it, I just don't think you get it. Next one, another classic, Brass Monkey. So Brass Monkey, I read a little bit earlier that some people, that's an expression for it being too hot outside. Your balls being too hot is Brass Monkey out here, man. I didn't know that. But Brass Monkey is actually the name of a liquor. Yeah. There's a Brass Monkey. There's a Brass Monkey drink and there's a Brass Monkey liquor. That song was interesting because he talks about my man is Shevitz. which is a grape wine, which is a Jewish like grape wine. So that's another one where they pay homage to their home and to their culture in a way that's palatable to even people that don't know these are 3 jewish boys from the bronx it's palatable they go well what's that oh okay like it's it's a solid before red solo cup or shot shot shot shot any of that stuff this was the rally cry of the drinking song You got in there, it's Brass Monkey, dude. You get tore up. This is what you do. Like, drinking songs, like hype tracks, like Little John and shit like that. This was the original hype track. Period. Next one, Slow and Low. Slow and Low, again, another underrated track. You know, it wasn't a radio hit. But Slow and Low, again, is, you know It's a good method in making an album, and it's a good method in cooking soup. Slow and low. Yeah, you don't want to burn the soup. Low heat. Instapot is your best friend. A pressure cooker is the best thing in the world against tough meat. Slow and low is great in the oven, but if you've got a pressure cooker, you can do that shit in 45 minutes. They didn't have a pressure cooker back then, so it took them years to do this. However, again, very underrated, very good model to live by. If you live by the model low and slow you get where you're going eventually and then last one the album closer time to get ill time to get ill to me listening to this album when it came out time to get ill was the expression of we're fucking here and we are not going anywhere Like, License to Ill was basically like, this is us, this is what we do, and get used to hearing the name because your mom's going to scream it when she gets off from now on. Because this shit is not going anywhere. We believe this is a cultural seismic point to where people will remember this. They will remember the rumble of this album when it came out, and they knew that. And Rick Rubin knew that. Like, there's just some shit that you know is gonna hit. And I understand that everybody who makes music thinks their shit's gonna hit. Or at least hopes. This is one of those instances where you hoped it was gonna hit and it absolutely fucking hit and put the Beastie Boys this is like the grand finale and this song like if you listen to the album as a whole this is what catapulted them into being their own thing there's Rage Against the Machine which sometimes gets paired with a rap rock compared to the Beastie Boys Not the same thing. Rage Against the Machine is awesome, don't get me wrong. They're great. But the Beastie Boys exist in a space that's solely their own. Because nobody did before, nobody will do after exactly the way they did it so this was this last song was putting the exclamation point on we're here we're serious and you're gonna pay attention to it Or we're going to annoy the fuck out of you until you do. And fortunately, they didn't have to. And that's why if you look at the Beastie Boys catalog, there's a lot of bands in that time span, even now, releasing shit every year. The Beastie Boys didn't do that. Like we talked about earlier, they didn't release shit until it was ready. So if it took years between a release Yeah, they only have a couple per decade, don't they? Yeah. 2 in the eighties and think 2 in the nineties, right? I was like 3 or 4 in the nineties. If I need to like work through it, but yeah. And then like a handful in the aughts and yeah, they, they really just did what they want. That first album was so good that it gave them the clout to be able to do what they wanted to do from here on out. And that's something that most bands will never achieve. first album out. There's only a handful of artists I can even think about that have been able to do that. Prince. Prince was one of them. From the second Prince came out, it was money. Garth Brooks. From the time it came out, it was money. One of the ones I want to do on this podcast is the Chris Gaines one. Elvis, Elvis Presley. Money from the time it came out. There's just some artists that are You can compare them to other things, but they're so on their Dax Riggs. Dax Riggs is in a category all by himself. I saw him Exodar, High on Fire, and then Dax with Acid Bath like a month ago in Des Moines. And it was Oh, that already happened? Dude, it was It was beautiful. It was fucking beautiful. Like, it was so good. I've seen Dax by himself twice. I've opened for him. I've seen him 5 times. I've opened for him 3 of those 5 times. And it was just Yeah, I think one of the times I saw him was one you were playing at. And it's iconic shit. I remember people started yelling out Acid Bass songs and you got pissed. That was at the slowdown. And he was mad as fuck. He turned around and got on the mic and goes, I can hear every fucking word you're saying right now. I saw him at the hideout and the same thing happened. Yeah, and it was the same guy, honestly. They yelled it both times because I know the guy. Like, yeah. But you know that iconic type shit to where you're like, nobody else is in the category that you were in there's other metal bands other rock bands whatever but you stand alone with what you do which is very difficult music it's very hard to stand out from people yeah but the beastie boys spent you know a decade almost working on the shit before that debut album yeah so they were ready to go and when that album came out it stands in the annals of history as an album that there is nothing else like. You're not going to find even another Beastie Boys album is not going to be like that one. Yeah, and then the next one, Paul's Boutique, there's nothing else, not even another Beastie Boys album like that. All their albums have their own unique character. There you Alright, so Dave and I are going to flip it over and we're going to give our in-depth thoughts on side 2 after this break. Adam, go ahead and plug all your shit. Okay, so Spotify, all music platforms. If you look up Young Bakes, Young spelled the normal way, Bakes spelled the normal way, featuring Chubbs Bumperson. Bumperson, B-U-M-P. H-E-R-S-I-N. So if you look that up, if you look at Young Bakes on all major music platforms, look up our new single called Shadows. I'm going to have one coming out here in the next couple weeks called ODB. If you're a fan of Wu-Tang Clan, that's one that I think you're really going to dig. I've got a show coming up, Reverb Lounge in Omaha, Nebraska on July 31st. Um, that's a twelve dollar cover to get in. It's going to be a really kick ass night. It's the last Bluntier tour with AJ the Dread and AG Strange. It's going to be a really killer night. All ages. Very fun show. If you're not a fan of hip hop, this is one that I would suggest checking out because. Once you walk in the door, everybody's family. Everybody's cool. It's not gangster rap. It's not. We mostly rap about being good to people and, you know, smoking weed and stuff. So it's you know, it's just not like that. So definitely come out and see us. I got an album coming out. Chubbs Bumperson official on Instagram and Facebook. Yeah, just come check it out and shoot me a message or whatever. I love all kinds of music and I'm always happy to point people in the right direction if you don't listen to my stuff. you're like, what's a good doom band? What's a good metal band? I will happily point you in the right direction because the more people listen to good music that's out there and support it. the more that good music and art is going to continue to be made. So that's ultimately what we need, whether we have one listener a week or a hundred thousand listeners a week. We need people to go and listen to these bands. and uh approach it with the attitude of even if it's not my band even if you're not buying or listening to my stuff did you find something that kicked ass and something that resonated with you then at the end of the day that's really all that matters music is universal and uh you know i it it can it can do a lot for your life if you find this shit that does something for you I noticed every time you come over, you tell me about your experiences that you've been having with this new career change. It sounds like there's a lot of camaraderie that's just not there in some of the other music scenes in this town. Oh, absolutely. Shout out to Self Made Music, the label. That's who I'm with right now. Young Bakes, Hybrid, Be Real, SJ-XXI, like All them guys from day one took me in as, like, family and just treated me like the best. Like, it's just been a really great experience, and that's why I'm trying to point people in the direction, if they come to me, of music that I dig because it's not just what I like. It's a family thing, and music can heal your body. Music can heal your heart. Music can heal your mind. It's just about finding the right stuff that does it for you. And if I can be the person to point you in the right direction of something that means something to you, then that's what I'm going to do because that's just what music is about to me. It's about feeling and sharing and all having, like, especially live, having that same experience together. Like, just being in the moment. We all have our jobs and our lives and our things that weigh us down. But for this moment, for however many minutes we're watching this live act on stage, it's suspended belief. We can just let that go for a few minutes and be in the moment, even just in our cars or our houses. We can put on a song and put on our headphones and just close our eyes and just be in the moment. And that's, whether it's a song I like or a song I don't like, if it resonates with you That's the important thing. Don't listen to me. Don't listen to Steve. Don't listen to anybody else. If something impacts you, I don't care if your friends make fun of you for listening to 5 Feet and Death Punch. I think they're one of the worst things to ever happen to music. However, if that does it for you and you feel something when you hear it, then go with that. Don't shy away from it. Don't let anybody discourage you. Just listen to what you listen to and if you love it and it makes you feel something then feel whatever it is even if it means you feel like drinking a monster energy drink and punching your mom's drywall well your mom's gonna be mad and you shouldn't do that because it's gonna cost her money to fix that however if that's what your heart feels As long as you're not taking that out on somebody else and abusing another human being, then do what it do to make you feel happy, even if it's punching drywall. It's funny because I remember on the Ace Frehley episode, I told Sean that music is subjective and he said, yeah, this is objectively bad. Yeah. Yeah. And it was. It was not good. All right, well, thanks for coming on. Oh, yeah, always a pleasure, guys. After the break, me and Dave will finish off with the rest. Yeah, and I'm always I'm always up for coming back. We're going to have you paired together with Pete sometimes. Oh, the Peterson brothers. It's going to be a big bag full of Peters. And then we'll have you paired with Jake sometime if both Steve and I have laryngitis. There you go. Oh, God. That's going to be a fun show. We'll call it Jake and the Fat Man. Yeah. It's funny because if people ever saw me, they'd be like, he's not that fat. Like, no, it's got a big belly, dude. I'm pregnant with knowledge. All right, y'all. Thank you. Have a good night. Thanks for having me on the show. And yeah, I remember everybody that being nice cost absolutely nothing. So be kind to your fellow man as much as you possibly can. And, you know, at the end of the day. um happiness is free so smile be happy you wake up tomorrow and you'll start another day over and it'll give you another chance to be cool so yeah just be happy be kind and uh rock on everybody rock on so And we are back from side B of License to Ill. I wonder how short this part of the episode will be with just the 2 of us. Significantly shorter. I think it's a lot of fun to try to reign Adam in. I think that's part of the fun of having him as a guest. I don't know. I also kind of like just letting him go. But then every now and then I'll find myself checking social media because of how long he's talking. Yeah. Adam is a one-person content farm. Yeah. This album, I think, a great listen. Yeah. There's not a single song in this album that I would get rid of. Yeah. I think it has So much infectious fun. And it's pretty much just all infectious fun. Yeah. I think it's hard to pull off just an infectiously fun album. I don't even know which side I like better. I'll just say side B for now because Because it has No Sleep Till Brooklyn, Paul Revere, and Brass Monkey, and Slow and Low. But I could also come up with 4 songs on the first side. But those are a lot of my favorite songs on the whole thing. So we'll go with that. this has the one inessential song on the album which we'll get to later but it still kicks ass so like it's not bad it's just like if you have to say one song is the least essential you just go with this one but it's still a great song so like somebody threatens you with a gun like pick one song to get rid of yeah you're like okay okay that one yeah um yeah i don't know if i could pick a a side either but uh I suppose I would probably pick side B if I had to pick one. Overall, I think it was pretty consistent. Like, all the songs had utilized a lot of the same sounds and instruments, but they utilized them in like increasingly creative ways. There were a lot of moments where they were doing really interesting things with the, the 8 Oh 8 drum machine. I noticed particularly in time to get ill, they were switching between different drum machine types. And there was a lot of like, sounds that sound almost like mechanical, but, uh, but are like rhythm based. So yeah, I think sound really cool. Um, Track by track, No Sleep Till Brooklyn. Iconic. Yeah, it's classic for a reason. One of the best songs they ever wrote. Yeah. I think it's a great way to start the side. Comes off of Fight For Your Right perfectly. Those 2, I think, lead into each other pretty well. 2 guitar-driven songs right next to each other, too. Yeah, uh interestingly uh this is the one that rick rubin plays guitar on and like i said i never knew he played guitar so i thought that's interesting it makes me wonder if he plays instruments and more things that we've heard from him yeah what's great is his rhythm guitar playing like paired well with the carrie king solo which made the carrie king solo actually work this is like one of the best carrie king solos um and i think that's largely because a cat hitting the strings of a played guitar. It's funny, it sounded like Kerry King. Like, you know, the tone was the same, the playing was the same, the way he uses the tremolo bar was the same. Yeah, I think it's funny that he just He showed up and dropped that solo down, and then he's like, yeah, I did it for the money. Yeah. Or not the money, the attention, anyway. Yeah. But it's better than his solos in most Slayer songs. Joke's on him. Next one, Paul Revere. I think the first thing that really stood out to me on that one was the reverse cymbal sound on it. Oh, yeah. And then the reverse cymbal sound and then just the weird tape sound that was going by reversing it, too. Just in the beat when the cymbal wasn't even playing, just because it was playing the cymbals backwards was really cool and was what really made the song and drove the song. This one was one of 2 songs on this record that was co-written by Run DMC. And once you know that, you can't unhear it. But, you know, Run DMC, kick ass. Yeah, as soon as you pointed it out, I'm like, oh, yeah, this sounds like something you might hear on King of Rock. Yeah. Another thing I really liked about it is it's kind of like a fictional comedic origin story for them, it seems like. At least that's what I gathered when I was reading lyrics. Oh, yeah, it definitely is. Next song, Hold It Now, Hit It. This is the one song I called Inessential, but it still kicks ass. Yeah, it's got big 8 to 8 sound and a lot of samples. And one thing I'll say about the Beastie Boys is they're really good at layering samples. And what I hate about our current copyright system is how unfriendly to sampling it is, because it's just I don't know, it's a really neat way to pay homage to other musicians, I think, and it's weird to me that that's been stifled. One thing that I think is really interesting about this album in general, from Paul Revere into this song is an example of it, how they'll do a song with a pretty minimalistic beat and instrumentation to something that's pretty busy, and I think that's one way to hold your attention through the whole thing that's really good, because this one kicks off with a really busy bunch of drum and emulator stabs and a whistle. It's a great way. They really thought of the flow of the album a lot when they put this together. Next one, Brass Monkey, one of the most infectious songs ever written. It's probably my favorite on the album right now. And I just say that because fight for your right to party and no sleep till Brooklyn have, you know, like been a little overplayed. So it's like, I'm going to like latch on to brass monkey and she's crafty and girls more right now. But yeah, but yeah, this is yeah. Fantastic song. like, I love it. Like, like Adam said earlier, it's a great drinking song. It just makes you want to like raise your, raise your cup or your can and just slam it back. Um, Yeah, the synths were great on it. This one is one where the kick drum really stood out to me quite a bit. Yeah, you mentioned it stood out to you a lot on this one and the next one. And yeah, big 88 kick drum sound, which is a sound that I particularly love. Like there's a few illiterate songs where I utilize an eight eight and I wish it sounded as big as it does on this album. When we record it, we can double it up. Well, double it up and make it and like do the second one, like just slightly out of sync. Well, what I'll probably do is record using a MIDI setup and then I can just use whatever 8 Oh 8 sound I want. Yeah. so, because i'm using whatever's in the in the brain, in the, yeah in the brain, and uh, i'm sure there are better versions of that. uh, slow and low. i i like the, the rock guitar sample like, mixed with the 8, oh, 8 sound. i think it played off, uh, each other really well, yeah, uh, i think it'd be really funny if a doom metal band covered this song. i i do think, like i can't think of any doom metal, uh bands that get, uh, uh, silly enough that they would do that. but yeah, i do. i do feel like this song. this is the other run dmc, uh, co-written one. but i do feel like this song is a bit of a manifesto for this record to a degree because there are some fast songs on it, but for the most part it's, uh, like it's like more of a slow, steady tempo, but just bringing in high energy to it. yeah. so this to me, this one feels like it's talking about their whole process to some degree. yeah, i can see that. And then the album closer Time to Get Ill, just like a big sample collage utilized, I'd say masterfully. Yeah, I think some of the best use of the drum machine too. I liked how they kind of stuttered with it for a while. I liked how they ended it on a drum breakdown and I think that was masterful. I think that one thing that's great about that is, if someone wanted to find a loop to play for a breakdancing competition, you just have the very end of the album right there, You just loop that part and that would be perfect to dance to with your big boombox in a track suit. Yeah, the little program beat that they had at the end of that song, I thought was a great way to bookend the album. Yeah, Overall, yeah. highly recommend this album. If you're sick of the semi-ironic dude bro posturing from this era of them, I get it, but the album still kicks so much ass Just, and it's nice knowing that they matured as songwriters and people after this. you know, it's like Adam mentioned, they were in their twenties when they wrote this. It sounds like an album that was written by guys in their twenties, and their early twenties too. Yeah, Well, like literally 20 to 22, And you know I remember being immature at that age, And I think some of, to a degree, some of the dude bro stuff, uh, can be, uh, taken with a grain of salt or, yeah, it's not. or as a little tongue in cheek. yeah, it's, it's not unironic, you know, like there's parts that, like there's parts that they've apologized for, then there's parts that you can clearly tell are a joke. yeah, yeah, one thing i think that uh stands out to me, uh, from the beastie boys as a whole is, uh, the the way that they uh, The way that they write their lyrics, is interesting. It's sometimes hard to get a grasp on what they're talking about, but I don't know. It makes you look into it more. Yeah, And, yeah, I like it. I like it that they never made an album quite like this afterwards too, because that means that it stands on its own. I like it that they approached each thing differently And like I love Like. the sampling on this is great. The sampling is even better on Paul's Boutique, But by Paul's Boutique it's the center stage and they're doing a lot of different stuff. So it sounds very different from this. And so, like both of their eighties, albums stand apart from each other a lot And they're both like masterworks, great albums in both ways, like essential albums that you have to listen to both. And then I love it that their 3 nineties albums all sound very different from each other too. And like how they would like, how they, uh, leaned more into into rock for, uh, for a couple of them. But then by hello nasty they, uh, gone back to more of a hip hop sound. but it was more of a late nineties than a mid to late eighties that they're in earlier And that they were able to adapt with the times without making it sound like they're just chasing trends, Like they had their own approach. They were honestly one of the best. Yeah Well, this was a really fun listen. I'm glad we got some fun. Adam moments out of that. The part where he's talking about Sean's wife's only fans, I think is going to be really fun to show him. Yeah, I'm debating whether or not we should include that in the episode, but we should definitely show it to Sean. But yeah, listen to the Beastie Boys, listen to all of the Beastie Boys records. read the Beastie Boys book, You get, like, some great perspectives on it. And plus it's just like one of the better written band bios. I've read in that. you know they work together to do it. But then they brought in, like a bunch of people they'd known over the years, to give their feedback. And there's like And rather than just having a section of glossy pages in the middle with photos- the photos are interspersed throughout the whole thing. Did they ever go through periods where they got sick of each other? They always seem like really good friends. from a casual observer, I didn't get the impression that they ever did from the book. I think part of the reason why they slowed down with their recording was so they didn't get sick of each other, but also so that they would have ideas Because they were hanging out at the times when they weren't putting anything out too. It seemed kind of like Rush and The Senses, like the same 3 guys that somehow avoid all the drama that most bands seem to go through once money gets involved. Yeah, Yeah, they were a great band. And the thing Adam said about you know, like about how they were saying that you will take us seriously. It's like, yes, you'll take take us seriously as musicians, but we're just shooting the shit. We're having fun is like the main vibe I get from them consistently throughout their albums, as they like, grow and mature too. Like they're like Body moving off of Hello Nasty, one of my favorite songs by them.

This is just like some middle-aged guys just saying: 1:56:53

hey, let's just have fun and listen to some music together. I don't care if you don't dance perfectly. This is fun. Yeah, they definitely give off a vibe of having fun which

sometimes, uh hard to pull off, because music isn't always a fun process. but one thing i've noticed about, even like hip-hop as a whole, is: 1:57:11

this seems like a lot of it is, uh oh, we were fucking around in the studio and we came up with this cool like beat or idea, and i think it's. it's something that sometimes appears in the rock world, but not quite as much, yeah, like the. uh, The closest story I can think of from the rock world right now is the story of Rock Lobster, where they were all just hanging out

And Ricky Wilson, the guitar player, was like: 1:57:45

hey guys, check this out. I came up with the stupidest riff. That does sound like something you might hear in a hip-hop studio. Yeah, I mean I even remember when I was listening to Dr Dre's The Chronic like. I was just picturing him and his like group of friends having fun, like making the beats and stuff on that, And I don't always get the same impression from rock bands.

It's like: 1:58:13

oh yeah, we all got together and came up with this song. Yeah, Well, that's kind of one of the I talk about how I often skip the skits on rap albums, but that's one of the things that's charming about them is just like the spontaneous nature of it. It's like, hey, we're just friends goofing off in the studio. Yeah,

yes, it's interesting. uh, as a outside observer, it seems like in the rap world. it's like with friendships. it's. it's like the highest highs and lowest lows. it's like your best friends: 1:58:34

or you want to shoot each other, yeah, or you have have beefs that everyone knows about. yeah, I remember when we did the Megadeth episode and he did the diss track. he said that's something that's missing from the rock world. Yeah, there needs to be more beefs. I know there's a few pissy songs throughout the rock world, but there's nothing like any of the high-profile rap beefs we've seen. We need more like that. A lot of rock diss tracks just come off as whiny and it seems, a lot of times the rap diss tracks are just funny or fun, or a combination of the 2. Yeah, I think the rap beefs and the diss tracks off of those are kind of born out of the spirit of battle rap where it was basically a argument for show in a room to a live audience, and I think that's part of what makes them so much fun like that. they're born from that like, I don't know, the last time Drake and Kendrick were in the same room, probably not in a long time, but that it's born from a tradition where it was 2 guys in the same room. trading. trading barbs is, I think, part of what makes it great those 2 in the same room. now that'd be fucking awkward. I would pay money to see it. God make that happen. God make that happen. I want to see Kendrick make that smile to Drake in person. All right, That was the Beastie Boys License to Ill Adam already gave his plugs. We're in a band called The Illiterates. We just played a really fun show last night. And we played with a group that plays this dark wave stuff that was really cool called Sexy Cash. And we were both disappointed that they didn't have things to buy. But hopefully they'll have things to buy soon because they said they're going to the studio. Yeah. uh we recorded that show and i don't know when we'll have it out but we have kind of this bootleg thing going so if you want to check our music out without there are abundance of options we'll release that full show later because it was i think our best one so far but yeah i listened to it again today because i combined the sources all together and it's like yeah that was the tightest we've ever been yeah uh which i think partially is because i was working to get together uh bootleg stuff for these cassette drives that i made that i'll be putting on our band camp soon Yeah, the main mistake I remember making that day is I did not hit a button on my keys in time because I noticed the wind had blown over my water glass in the direction of my synth, and I was making sure that I hadn't accidentally ruined it, and I hadn't. But that was more important than hitting the note in that moment, but that I recovered from it right away tells you about the quality of the show. I didn't even notice. Yeah. Just like Andrew said that he came in too late. It doesn't even sound like it on the recording. Yeah. But yeah, I think that's it. Yeah. Catch you on the flip side. at kill rock music, SWS and Dave underscore diction. You can find us on blue sky at kill rock music and beast master general. Check out our musical projects, the illiterates and lucid fugue on all major streaming platforms and links to each at my website, kill rock music.com. That's K I L O. r-a-v-o-c-k music.com this also includes my past projects Megaton and Valley of Shadows and my current solo project Kill Rock you can also find Dave's past project Gong Farmer at g-o-n-g f-e-r-m-o-u-r dot bandcamp dot com thanks Everyone we worked with is dead. I'm really ripped. I need to change my pants. Check, check, check, check, check, check. Check, check, check, check, check, check. Leonard Bernstein. I hate it so much I skipped the whole Destroyer part. Allow me to play you out. Dirty Dave just pooped his pants. Hmm. Hmm, yes, yes indeed. Perfect hooker murdering song. Kick out the jams, motherfucker! Are you Oh, Steve's got some cheese. Get my podcast voice ready to go. Cha-wobble, what a name. That's not very Vivian of you guys. It's a professional operation over here. This is Fantasia for people who had to repeat the 9th grade. Heavy metal. Yeah, hands off, Britain. Dump it in the sea again. Shove it, shove it, shove it. Shove it. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know.