Saying goodbye to the Prince of Darkness OZZY OSBOURNE, Steve brings in the record that introduced him to BLACK SABBATH..... songs anyway! SPEAK OF THE DEVIL/TALK OF THE DEVIL (1982)

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Speak of the Devil is a live album by English heavy metal singer Ozzy Osbourne, released on 22 November 1982 by Jet Records in the United States.[6] It is a double album consisting entirely of live renditions of songs originally recorded by Osbourne's previous band Black Sabbath. The album was entitled Talk of the Devil in the UK, that being the more commonly expressed idiom there.

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I'm J-R-H-N-B-R, dude. Just the right height to fuck him without a bucket. No, bucket is required. It's been funny to me for a decade, dude. I've honestly never heard that, and that was fucking disturbing. I'm glad I could spread the infection. Like, you're just going to be sitting around one day, and then suddenly the acronym's going to flash in your mind. J-R-H-N-B-R. And you can't tell your wife about it. Like, what's she going to think? Well, I'm going to show her the video. Yeah. I think you and Theresa should dress up as that couple for Halloween. I'll be the woman. Yeah. Yeah. No, like, I remember when, like, the early days of the internet when it was mainly used to find out weird kinks that you'd never heard of, and point and laugh. I found a little write-up about a guy who was only sexually attracted to vehicles. He mainly fucked cars. But his favorite conquest was he fucked the helicopter from Airwolf. at like a county fair uh air show hell yeah that's actually kind of sick that he like yeah that he did that like under the rate did he get caught no that's that's impressive proof though does does he got pics yeah yeah so maybe he was lying yeah no video helicopter blades or something I guess, how do you fuck a car? Yeah, where do you Well, a tailpipe is like, I guess, like the Where do you fuck a helicopter? That's what I'm wondering. If you're a J.D. Vance type, then probably the seats. Oh, yeah. Yeah. J.D. Vance fucks the couches. Lately, I've been watching the Osbournes, like, basement tapes, and it's really fun to watch the Osbournes watch the Osbournes and cringe at themselves. Yeah, I'm almost through all the ones that they have posted. I wouldn't want to watch a reality show of me at 16 when I'm, like, 40. Like, what the fuck? Jack seems to, like, have a good sense of humor about it, but you can tell Kelly is just like, oh god, no. Well, I mean, you've seen how she looks now. I bet she looks like a completely different person in the Osbournes than how she looks now. Yeah, she's in her scene-ster phase. Well, yeah, she's in her scene-ster phase, but also she's had some work done. I told Dave that I'm glad. Well, I think Sharon's had more work done. Sorry. Well, Sharon's had more time on this earth, so that does make sense. Yeah. I told Dave that I'm glad that she had a kid with the guy from Slipknot because that's the opification of the Osbournes. We're turning him into Midwesterners. Hell yeah. Yeah, the DJ from Slipknot. He's very Midwestern looking. today's episode of Side One, Side B. I'm Steve. I'm Dave. I Side C? Yes. Yeah. C for Sean. C for Sean. And I'm Side D for Clayton. And today we are paying tribute to the recently fallen, a musician that I hold in very high regard, somebody that was offered the bass player position in Metallica. Let's pour one out for Hulk Hogan. I was like, oh, Chuck Mangione almost played the bass of Metallica? No, today we're talking about the singer from my favorite band, Ozzy Osbourne. What do you guys think about the Prince of Darkness, Ozzy Osbourne? rest in peace my yeah dark prince yeah oh uh great singer great front man i like i like the sabbath stuff in general more than his solo stuff but maybe that's because i have heard crazy train played by a polka band at october fest every 4 songs for too many years in a row but yeah Crazy Train is one of those songs that I don't really enjoy listening to anymore, but that's just because the first time I heard it, I thought it was awesome. But I've heard it so many times now. It's overplayed. Yeah. I was a roadie for an eighties cover band and they covered Crazy Train. So I heard it like nightly for a while, but it's still a great song. It just, I, you know, yeah it's not it's not as best in my opinion anymore because i like uh i like uh like mr crawley better um some other songs i like the synth opening of mr crawley oh yeah that's cool and creepy yeah yeah And then, yeah. But I actually enjoy his solo career, too. But, yeah, Sabbath was my introduction to him. Especially the first album, which was always almost horror-esque in its sound. You know, like Black Sabbath and N.I.B. and I don't care for most of his solo career, but the first 2 records are fantastic. Yeah. Did you read that piece John Darnielle of the Mountain Goats wrote about Ozzy and like how much he meant as a front man. I did, yeah. Yeah. You want to talk about that a little bit? He talked about how, like, one of the things that made Ozzy so great as a front man is, like, you know, like, he didn't write the lyrics, but he was the one who was, like, really, like, selling the song to, like, the crowd and really made the band in that regard. And also he talked about how one of the things that made him so relatable was you could hear yourself singing that kind of stuff too. Like it was like, he wasn't like a super virtuosic singer and that's what made him so great was he made, he made all of that seem more approachable in the process. Yeah. Yeah. That's something I've really respected about all of the guys from Sabbath is they were working class guys that, uh, managed to escape. Yeah. Despite having everything against them, you know, shitty managers, uh, shitty business practices, literally getting his fingers cut off. Singers leaving. I mean, I love Ozzy. He is a pop culture icon. Not just like metal and rock, but just in pop culture in general. He's a force. He was a force in everybody's life. Sabbath is probably my favorite band of all time, and while I always Bitch, that everybody only thinks of the Aussie years when they think of Sabbath. There is good reason for that, because he was just so infectious. Yeah. Oh, go ahead. I mean, like you were saying, that guy said John Darnielle? Yeah, John Darnielle. He made everything seem approachable. What I also really loved about him was that he didn't take himself too seriously like he was the prince of darkness and stuff like that but you know they had the osbournes and you'd see interviews of him and he's just like making jokes and is like kind of a down homey kind of funny guy you know yeah so he didn't like take that moniker so much to heart he just I was actually thinking the other day, it's like Dio liked to call him a clown, like insultingly, but it's like Ozzy himself, like everybody talks about how funny he is. I think Ozzy himself would probably see himself as a clown. Oh, he definitely did. Yeah. Well, and like you look at like interviews with them, there was one where he's like it was like back in the eighties. He had just like shaved his head and they're like, why did you shave your head? I just felt like it. Yeah. And then like they're like, so what are your hobbies outside of music? Sex. Yeah. And they're like, anything else? Sex. He was one of the 4 people interviewed for Decline of Western Civilization Part 2 that doesn't look like a total asshole. The other 3, if you're wondering. are Lemmy, Alice Cooper, and oddly, Dave Mustaine. Alice Cooper looked like an asshole? No, he didn't. He was one of the 4 that didn't. Oh, gotcha, sorry. Everyone else, all of the younger hair bands, as well as Aerosmith and Kiss, for the other older bands, all looked like assholes in that movie. Yeah. Well, Sean, I'm glad you mentioned him shaving his head bald because the album we're looking at today, when it was recorded, he was bald on stage and he was just like wearing sweatpants. Which doesn't surprise me. He should have done more shows like that. That would have been funny. This is Is this pre-Ultimate Sin or post-Ultimate Sin? Pre. Well, we'll talk about the album a bit. So today we're going to be looking at the first time I heard Black Sabbath wasn't Black Sabbath. It was their former singer covering a bunch of Black Sabbath songs. So we're looking at Speak of the Devil or Talk of the Devil if you're over in the UK. I guess Speak of the Devil isn't a phrase over there. They say Talk of the Devil. This is a live album that they put out right after Diary of a Madman. Talk of the devil sounds like a phrase people who eat beans on toast for breakfast would use. Fucking Brits. This album, I think, was either an Aussie Well, probably not an Aussie idea, but this was either a record company idea or a management idea, because Black Sabbath were putting out their own album at the time. I got it right here called live evil evil evil evil So basically Ozzy wanted to get this one out first so they booked a couple nights at the Ritz and they just recorded a bunch of Sabbath covers and Yeah, that's the album we'll be taking a look at today originally They were going to do this album with Randy Rhoads. And Randy really didn't want to do it. Randy was not a Black Sabbath fan. The drummer, Tommy Aldridge, also didn't want to do it. And Rudy Sarzo went along with the band. So they went to Sharon and Sharon's like, oh, it's fine. but ozzy got really pissed like he would like antagonize him and uh like he would go up to randy and be like oh i'm gonna get frank zappa to play on the album and then part of me is like i wish that was like a true threat that actually happened that would have been cool um but yeah uh basically they uh through this album together uh and uh yeah uh are you guys familiar with it at all no no yes i uh i actually really like this album i've listened to it several times i i remember listening to it back in the day though so i haven't heard it in probably it's like 20 plus years but it's a really good live album like because there was a time where i was really into live albums and i like sabbath so i was like i wanted to hear ozzy's version of sabbath songs so i remembered it i liked it uh and they're good performances I first came across this one in the same way as the Jerry Cantrell album. My dad's buddy would just burn discs for my dad and they would just end up in my CD players. And yeah, this was one of the ones that he burnt for my dad. This one and Ozzy's like current solo album at the time, Down to Earth. So I listened to both of those, both this album and that one a lot at the time. And eventually got a vinyl copy for 5 dollars nice yeah what do you guys think of the track listing there I think it's a decent selection of Sabbath songs honestly there's no like deep cuts it's all hits yeah except symptom of the universe I feel like is an interesting opener but I guess never say die was was a single but to me that's kind of a deep cut just because like nobody likes never say die yeah Yeah, there are some really I think most of it's from the early years, but then there's, like, 1, like, Sabotage song. Yeah, like, Symptom of the Universe is kind of a weird opening. When did Technical Ecstasy come? Is that before or after Sabotage? That was After Sabotage. Technical Ecstasy. It might have been in the last one they did with Ozzy. No, the last one they did was Never Say Die. I mean, Never Say Die. That's what I mean, sorry. Never Say Die. Yeah, Sabotage. It was Sabotage and then Technical Ecstasy. And then Never Say Die. Yeah. So is there a song from Never Say Die on there? I didn't see one. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Side 3. Never Say Die. Oh, Never Say Die. Now, if you were a, uh, a Sabbath fan in, uh, your, your, your options would have been the, uh, this, uh, bootleg. It's not really a bootleg. This was put out by their manager, Patrick Meehan. Yeah. We, we talked about him during the volume. He's a real piece of shit. Like he basically all the money that Sabbath made went into his pockets. And if you want to see how that money's being spent today, you can find his son on Instagram going on yacht vacations and cruises and shit on Sabbath's Dime. Maybe his son should take his yacht into the orca-infested waters off the coast of Spain. the track list on uh on this one's a i would say probably more obscure let's see the live at last one i've never heard of that one so that one was one they were planning on putting out as a live album and the band didn't want to do it and then after they uh changed managers their ex-managers like well i'm gonna put it out now anyway oh and it's got ozzy on it They also spell it Aussie Osborne with 2 S's on the back. Aussie. Aussie Osborne. Yeah, this is a weird track list, honestly. Killing Yourself to Live is cool. Tomorrow's Dream as the opener. Cornucopia. Really? I want to say the Killing Yourself to Live that was recorded before they recorded it for the album. So that's kind of neat. And then your other option was a live evil. You're probably pretty familiar with this. I have this one. I own this record and I do honestly like it. I mentioned the first time I heard Black Sabbath was this Ozzy release. The first time I intentionally bought a Black Sabbath album, it was this one on CD, and I immediately put it in. I thought it was a compilation for some reason, even though it's called Live Evil. I asked the guy at Hastings, and he's like, oh, I think it's a compilation. So I put it in and immediately go to Paranoid, and I'm like, why the fuck is a punk singer singing on this? Ozzy is more of a punk singer than D.0. is, though. Like, by a wide margin. Well, I think about that today, and, like, the way that he delivered Ozzy songs, I didn't care for quite as much. Like, I love the way that he sings his songs. I actually really love the way he sings N.I.B. Like, I think his version of N.I.B. is really good. But, like, Paranoid, I think just to me he sounded like a punk singer i don't know if that really holds up i would have to hear that i'm uh i'm curious about that now oh we're gonna do this album at some point yeah i might have to listen to that because i would be curious to hear how uh yeah he'd play how he sings uh dia sings it's pretty it's mostly ozzy sabbath stuff really yeah yeah no actually guys it's probably about uh half and half but there's quite it's all the hits yeah iron man war pigs paranoid children of the grave oh okay i actually really liked their decision uh in the two thousands to play under heaven and hell because they weren't obligated to play those songs anymore i thought that was a good move yeah um like yeah like side 2 of this is all aussie era stuff and like the big like like the big uh hits off of paranoid or no no there's from the first album there's black sabbath but yeah it's like war pigs iron man and black sabbath are all that's just like all of side 2 that's pretty it is an interesting record and also the one that uh led to the demise of that version of sabbath uh Yeah, you mentioned on the boot, well, not the boot, like the frowned upon release that they spelled it Aussie Osborne, Live Evil's full of some passive aggressiveness, where they just named him Ronnie Dio. Yeah. And they moved Vinny Appesee and Jeff Nichols to the special thanks section. Yeah. Wow. They treated Brad Wilk a lot better once XIII rolled around, I'll say that. Yeah. At the time, there was a lot of tensions. Like, engineers were telling Ozzy, or not Ozzy, Tony and Geezer that Ronnie was mixing up his vocals and all that kind of stuff. There's a whole bunch of drama. Someday we'll cover this album and we'll talk about it more in detail. um that album that one came out after the one we'll be talking about today and uh yeah i think that's all i got to say about that so makes me feel bad for bill warren too yeah well bill uh unfortunately uh was dealing with a lot of stuff during that time and i think he just kind of ended up deciding i don't want to play in sabbath unless ozzy's there like that's just being his uh they tried to bring him back for the heaven and hell sessions like they were doing the 3 bonus tracks on the deal year cd and they wanted him to play more like a typical drummer uh like just play it straight through and he's like well i don't play that way like i play along with tony and that's the way i've always played it and if you wanted me to do it that way you can get a different drummer and they did yeah well i think the people talk a lot of shit about like the them firing ozzy but it actually turned out to be a good thing for probably all of them involved because like i think heaven and hell was the first album that uh with dio yeah yeah that uh charted for him or something like that that album is really good yeah it revived their career yeah yeah i think that album is really good it gave him a shot in the arm and the last the that like the later aussie black sabbath albums didn't have yeah those were those were a decline yeah yeah and then uh my dad he saw them on uh the heaven and hell tour uh playing with blue oyster cult and he says uh he doesn't remember a damn thing about it because he was on acid Well, he said the only thing he remembers is he remembered Dio coming out, and I guess he had this big old robe on, and I can picture it, because I think I know exactly which robe he's talking about, but he opened it up, and it was red, and and the the lights uh like shined on him so he said it looked pretty uh satanic at the time i'm like that sounds awesome yeah yeah but uh my dad saw that same show i'm pretty sure at least he saw that tour but then they also like found out that the the dude was ripping them off too so that kind of helped them with their management because ozzy told him that he's like fucking us he's like he's fucking us I think even to this day they still don't make anything off the first 6 records. Maybe they've bought the rights back since then or something. Was it 6 or 5? Well, it might be 5 because I think Sabotage, they kicked them to the curb at that point. Wow, all of the profitable records of Sabotage, I would say. It's kind of a minor miracle that they're millionaires themselves. They manage that After becoming millionaires before, technically. Well, I mean, like, because Sharon Osbourne found Ozzy in some fucking apartment that was like really shitty apartment or whatever. She's engaged in a lot of awful business practices, but she saved Ozzy's life. I actually believe that she loved him. Yeah. And I've seen a lot of, like, humanizing moments from her, too. Like, I saw this clip of her on The Voice where, like, the other 2 guys were ripping into this, like, 16yearold, and she, like, she's like, what the fuck is wrong with you guys? And, like, comforted her and took her off to the side and told her, hey, you know, I know you have a dream. Don't listen to those fuckers, you know? Yeah. So it's like hate Sharon for what she did to the original Blizzard of Oz lineup and what she did to Iron Maiden at Oz Fest and all that kind of stuff but I also don't think she was like the worst human being alive you know I think she was a good business manager like so a lot of the dad taught her well yeah like a lot of huge manager yeah like a lot of her decisions were based off of like okay what's branding all that crap you know that's that's what a manager does. It's not necessarily like, Oh, we're good friends with these people. So we gotta, you know, always be like on part. So, I mean, yeah, maybe she had some questionable stuff, but you know, she did what she did and, uh, she kept her family going. So, you know, I mean, comparatively to so many other people that, did uh music manage it and then the scene she was probably actually one of the better people in it yeah oh yeah and i have i have some sympathy for her too because she did see ozzy at his worst and he did try to kill her yeah he did try to kill her like um that's that's something i wanted to bring up because uh it's it does seem like ozzy gets a lot of passes for things that a lot of other people wouldn't yeah because he's such a goofy fun guy dude but And even when she talks about it now, she's kind of like, yeah, it is what it was, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he wasn't he clearly wasn't in his right mind and he needed to get help and he did. But yeah, that's still something that happened. And it's like what I've been reading. The obituary has been reminded that it's like, whoa. Oh, yeah, that did happen, didn't it? Although another detail I like from having read the obituaries is I had completely memory hold that the biting the head off the bat incident was in Des Moines. It's funnier for it being in Des Moines, Iowa. Well, and I think it's funny because it was actually an accident. And he's like, it fucking hurt. I had to get a fucking rabies shot. Yeah, there's a clip where he's talking about it. He's like, oh, I had to get 2 in the ass and 2 in the arm. Also, I kind of wonder what was going through the fan's mind to throw like a live bat onto the stage. Well, was that before the dove? Was the bat before the dove? i think that was after the dove so he's like people are just throwing animals at him he'll bite their heads off one of his so i actually read his autobiography uh which is fucking great if you ever it's really good yeah yeah it's fucking hilarious um and he used to have a stick where he bit the heads off a rubber bat. It was, like, rubber. Yeah. And so someone threw a bat on stage. He thought it was a rubber bat, so he picked it up, and then he actually tasted blood, and that's when he realized it was a real bat. In Des Moines, Iowa. So it wasn't, like, on purpose But I wonder how on purpose it was. Like, you're going to tell me that he picked up a real bat and thought that was rubber? Have you felt a real bat? They're furry. It moves. He was also on a lot of drugs. I blame the drugs more than I would say let's go where it really was. Cocaine's a hell of a drug. Yeah, I blame the drugs more than I just thought it was a rubber bat. I'm like, he's going to say whatever the fuck. That was about the eighties. He was probably on like a balanced cocktail of cocaine and lewds. Yeah. Probably picked that up and he was like, Oh, this thing's real shit. All right. Um, so let's talk about the, uh, the show that this comes from. You know, we mentioned before, I mentioned before that Randy Rhodes is originally supposed to play guitar on this. And eventually what, what happened is eventually, Ozzy finally bullied Randy into doing it, but he basically said, all right, I'll do this one and I'll do one more studio album and I'm done. I'm going back to college. Instead, fate had other plans for him, unfortunately. So they bring in Brad Gillis from Night Ranger. I don't know. The rhythm section of Rudy Sarzo and Tommy Aldridge were part of a solo band, and they originally said they weren't going to do this album, and then now they are, so I don't know if maybe they just said fuck it and decided to. They pulled up a dump truck full of money. The shows that this came from supposedly was from 2 nights at the Ritz in New York on September, twenty sixth and twenty seventh of 19 82. And they also recorded a set that was. to nobody like it was like the rehearsals and uh from what i understand one song made it uh from those rehearsals and i won't reveal which one it is i want to see if you guys pick up on it do they have fake crowd noises yeah oh hell yeah yeah um the rest of this i think all the rest of this is from the second night uh i listened to the bootleg from it the the bootleg is really interesting because uh they keep all of ozzy's like antics in it so like at 1 point there's like oh yeah this song reminds me of the time we'd be fucking groupies in the hotel room like that didn't make it onto this i wonder why um wife manager maybe the uh The first night, I haven't heard the bootleg of the first night, but supposedly the band didn't do as good, but Ozzy was pretty good. The second night, Ozzy's vocals weren't great, but the band did better. So what they did is they completely replaced the vocals on this. So everything you'll be hearing was not Ozzy live. And I listened to the They did it in the studio or something? Yeah. They just Okay. Um A number of the songs, he was completely off-key from the bootleg, but some of it was just stuff like, well, he's running around on stage, so it wasn't consistent, so stuff like that. I lean more into the camp of make it sound the best you can, so I'm glad that they redid the vocals, personally. Oh, so did the bootleg sound, like, fucked up because he was all off-key? A little bit. Like, on Symptom of the Universe, he was completely off. Um He did really good on a number of the other songs, but sometimes it'd be like an occasional vocal crack or like he's running around. So like his mic is like, so it'd be like this, you know, I'm far away from my mic right now. Oh yeah. And of course, you know, we've all seen the clips of him, like where he'll take the mic out of the stand, sing like one line and then put it right back in and then take it out again. So probably a bunch of that kind of stuff. So, That reminds me, there was a Dead Boys Live album that they were contractually obligated to make but didn't want to make, so Stiv Bader's tanked the show by not singing into the mic. And then years later, they decided to re-release it shortly before Stiv died, and he just re-recorded the vocals. That happens a lot. Like, I think Judas Priest's live album, Unleashed in the East, people jokingly refer to it as Unleashed in the Studio. Oh, yeah, yeah. the band they do a pretty good job on this um when i first heard it years ago when i was a teenager and didn't pay attention to uh like the tightness of the band and stuff like that it was i thought it was great um as somebody that's been listening to sabbath now for like 30 years it's like oh yeah they up there or uh like brad gillis uh he's more of like a a glam metal player. More of like a Night Ranger type. I think he did a great job on this, but he sounds more like him than Naomi, I'll say that. And then I thought the rhythm section was pretty good. Rudy Sarzo doesn't really come close to Geezer Butler, but how many people really do? Tommy Aldridge, on the other hand, he had an advantage because he would He used to be in Black Oak, Arkansas, and they used to open for Sabbath a lot, so he was just familiar with all these songs. And honestly drum-wise, I think that's the best I've heard Sabbath with anybody besides Bill Ward, because I don't really care that much for Vinnie Appesee. Like, he's a fine drummer, but I prefer Bill's, like, jazz style. Cozy Powell was great, but, yeah. Cozy Powell is better in a fucking Jethro Tull. Jethro Tull. But yeah, I think that's all I got to say about the album. We'll talk about the cover design and artwork by Steve Jewell. Who wants to talk about the cover? I want to talk about it because I'm going to say it's better than Pretty much every Black Sabbath cover from the Ozzy era. They do have a pretty bad track record with album covers. Although I am curious about, do you know what's in his mouth? Strawberry jam. Strawberry. I was going to say, it looks like jam or jelly or something. There's an interview where he went on like daytime TV and they showed the cover. He's like, oh, it's perfect for American Thanksgiving. Yeah. That's pretty funny. Yeah, the cover is Ozzy in like a frame with a bunch of runes on it and like a demonic bat head on the top sitting on a throne with fangs and strawberry jam dripping out of his mouth. And he's wearing like a long blonde wig. Yeah, he was bald during that. Yeah, because that looks like a wig to me, and knowing that he was bald, that tracks. And he has a Japanese ogre tattoo, and he's leaning forward, looking down towards the camera like he's an ogre about to eat the viewer. And then on the inside, there's Ozzy sitting on the throne again. He's holding, like, a big silver cross. Guess who the name of the little person is. Not their actual name, but what they called him. Warwick Davis. Oh, wait. Yeah, Warwick Davis. Is that Warwick Davis? Well, they called him Ronnie. Oh! No! so i want to know why uh dio never really forgave ozzy yeah there's a there's a little guy there's like a little person sitting underneath him who's wearing like corpse makeup and is like bleeding out of his nose and let me i can't see him uh during every set and they call him ronnie uh and uh I don't think Ronnie ever really forgave him for that. Well, that's a dick move. It is. I don't blame him at all. I didn't see it, dude. I'll pass it. Give him a sec. No! I want it now! On the back, there's the track list and then the band circled by runes in a red circle around them. Here you go. I want to see the I want to see Ronnie! You want to see Ronnie? He goes by Ronald now. Ronald James Dio. Does Mac Sabbath do any of the Ronnie James Dio era songs? No, I actually asked the guy about it, and I forget exactly what he said, but he was really funny about it, because the guy that fronts Mac Sabbath is unsurprisingly really funny. And that was probably one of my favorite shows I ever did was when we opened for them. That was a good time. Yeah, because he could go by the name like ronald mcdeo or yeah i actually suggested that i was like yeah are you guys gonna get a ronald mcdeo he's like oh we'd love to get a ronald mcdeo or a tony mcdonald's yeah the jam does look terrible yeah it doesn't look like blood it's just supposed to be flesh gelatinous flesh like it's it's it is pretty obviously jam yeah So, on the first side On the first side Speaking of jam Let's kick out the jams, motherfucker. Let's kick out the jam, motherfucker! Does it need to be a triple album? There's only 3 songs aside. I know, right? Does it need to be a double album? It's not really that long. I didn't think so. It's not as long as Live Evil is. I'm like, are they jamming through a lot of these or something? I think that's why there's all the jam. Yeah, maybe. It was probably just, like, slightly too long to No, they heard Live Evil was coming out, so they're like, we need a double album, too. Yeah, because I think Live Evil's like twice as long. But yeah, first side, we got Symptom of the Universe. Then we got Snowblind and Black Sabbath. And it's a good side. Yeah, it's like an interesting mix of songs, too, like in that order. Yeah, it's weird doing Sip of the Universe first and not Black Sabbath. I know. All aboard! Someone's been in my room drinking my beers. Who could have done that, Ozzy? Who's the beer thief? Who could have done that? It's you, Ozzy. You're the beer thief. because he was doing it the night before. Yeah, like I said, I haven't listened to the first bootleg, but a guy that I was watching review it said he sounded pretty good the first night, but the band didn't sound as good. So they just used basically the second night. All right. We're back from side one of Speak of the Devil or Talk of the Devil, depending on what locale we're in. Talk of the Devil. Talk of the Devil. What did you guys think? I had fun. Yeah. It's great. I like the different takes of Black Sabbath songs. Sentimental Universe actually sounded good. Like the re-recorded vocals. Yeah. The other 2, I like the originals better, but they were fun interpretations of it. Like, I enjoyed it, even though I had some nitpicks about the third one, which we'll get to when we get to it. But like, as a whole, it won me over by the end, so You can definitely tell that they re-recorded him in the studio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, after hearing the bootleg, he definitely re-recorded in the studio. It was especially noticeable in the song Black Sabbath, and I think that's just because the instruments weren't as loud, so you could hear his vocal, and then hugging it was his slightly out-of-tuned voice. that he gave during the original. But yeah, we listened to a bit of the bootleg version of Symptom of the Universe, and he was not That was not slight on Symptom of the Universe. Yeah, he was really out. And supposedly It sounds like he probably blew his voice at the first show. I'll say this, having heard the whole bootleg, he gets better as time goes on. So I think he just got more used to it as time went on as well. Where his voice was sitting, being blown, yeah. Maybe he hadn't warmed up before the show. Ozzy doesn't strike me as warming up kind of good. Yeah, maybe he was just really fucked up on drugs also. Yeah, he was. Almost certainly, yeah. That's probably a good reason. For me, I think it's a good side of music. I think Symphony of the Universe, with the more metallic sound, I thought fit really good. Snowblind, I thought they did a great job, and Black Sabbath, you noted that they did a better job at the faster songs, but Black Sabbath probably wasn't the most optimal song for this lineup, but I'd say they still pulled it off. I think it was fine. They still sound like a really good Sabbath cover band. Yeah. My sunglasses suit you really well. I would. I sat on them. Like, if I heard a band that built itself as a Sabbath cover band play this at a bar, I'd be standing near the front, kind of nodding along. I'd be like, hell yeah, brothers! You sound just like Ozzy! I'm guessing the draw for this show, if you were there, was more to watch Ozzy, like Well, I was going to say just be crazy on stage. Less so than him getting things note for note or anything. This is pre-Ultimate Sin. I use that as a delineation because that's what I consider the sober Ozzy album. Right? Ultimate Sin? Yeah. I thought No More Tears was his first sober album. No, I think Ultimate Sin was. That's the one where he's like the weird dragon on the front. Yeah, yeah. I thought he said No More Tears was his first sober album. Maybe that was the second. I was always under the impression that Ultimate Sin was his first solo album. That's at least the album that he made when he came back from rehab. Well, yeah. Doesn't mean he was sober. I also know his bandmates said the second he gets out of rehab, he'd be like, oh, time for a drink. He's the same guy that asked the Betty Ford Center where the bar was. Oh, yeah, it's Betty Ford herself. She's like, where's the bar? What did you guys think of the other band members, basically? I mean, we had a heavy metal guitarist, like more of a glam metal style guitarist. And then I think the drummer was reasonably similar to Bill Ward, like kind of a rock drummer. The rhythm section stood out as more interesting to me, though I didn't think, like, the guitar playing was bad. I thought it was just more passable, you know? Yeah. He had the least amount of time to learn these songs. I think he literally had a couple days. Yeah. So, I mean, he did good for, like, having no time to do it. He's a pro. He's a night ranger. A professional doing a passable job, basically, yeah. What I noticed the most is he did a pretty good job of staying in the same general spirit of the guitar solos while not playing at all what I only play. The exact guitar solo. And I kind of prefer when guitar players do their own take on the solos, like, especially if they're, like in a band like this where they come in. It's kind of their time to shine, I'd say. I like it when guitar solos by the same guy aren't note for note on the live version. Yeah, I do too. I like guitar solos. Well, Iommi never played the same solo twice, really. There's a video of him doing an instructional video where they said, all right, play the solo. So he plays the solo, and then they're like, okay, now we're going to play it back again, and you're going to do it slower. And he's like, oh, blimey. He said, if you watch it I want to do what I did. Yeah, he does not play the same thing the second time. Track by track opens up with Symptom of the Universe. I thought that was a good version. Yeah, it was a good version. It was pretty sick. Like, I thought it was a weird one to start We all thought it was a weird one to start off with. But it actually worked as an album opener, so I thought it was good. Getting the crowd hyped up, that's I mean, that song's like the first thrash song, I feel like. Yeah, it was yeah it was really good on the crowd chanting leading like chanting ozzy leading into it was a great way just like to start the whole live album and like yeah i liked how they played it faster and like it was yeah a great high energy opener it was it was good Yeah, I thought it was a great version. That one actually was, I think, the best played on this side, like, out of the 3. Probably, yeah. Yeah, I'd probably agree with that. And then Snowblind was Or did you have anything to say about it? No, it was sick. I liked it a lot. I thought it was a good version. I think that the rhythm section, like I think all the band really shine on that one because it was kind of a heavier, harder song, and they seem more geared toward that. And I thought it went real well. Now we can move on to Snow White. Sean, please tell me your opinions on Snow Blind. It's so good. It's all great. I like this version. This was the one where I really could tell that he recorded his vocals separately. Yeah. But I thought it was a good version. I do like triumphantly yelling the word cocaine rather than whispering it much better. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I also like this version. I think it's got a good energy. Like Dave, I much prefer to hear the word cocaine shouted excitedly. I do cocaine! Yeah, I thought it was a fun version. Dr. Roxo's clean! And then the side closes out with what I thought was really amusing is how he starts it by saying, oh, this is the first song I ever wrote. Fuck you. 0 parts of that song. Exactly 0. That was a dream that Geezer had. Yeah. You know, this was, I think it was kind of fun, but it was probably the sloppiest version. Like, I liked his little laugh that he was doing that was really creepy. He's like, ha ha ha ha. that was fun but like even when they got to the fast part like you know the that just sounded like really really sloppy to me so I thought that was kind of I thought this was the most like sloppiest played and most sloppiest huh yeah Yeah, like I'm good and sloppy. It's something that I never noticed as, like, a casual listener, like, growing up, any time I put this album on. But, yeah, you know, when you're sitting here, like, actually listening to it, after you've heard the musicians talk about, oh, I was not ready to record that album, like, that's when you start to really notice. And, I mean, it's a minimalist song, but it's really hard to pull off. Like, you have to still have it be interesting. This wasn't a band for the more minimalist Sabbath songs, I don't think. Like, like Ozzy wasn't a very minimalist person at this point. He was a minimalist artist. Which, yeah. And Ozzy was the biggest defender for me for like part of that was like, I didn't buy the, oh, please God help me the same way I did on the original. It just wasn't as good, like that part. That's what really sold me about the original Black Sabbath by the band Black Sabbath from the album. Black Sabbath. Was the, oh God, please help me. And like this one, that's not a part he nails. So just not like the right energy for it. So, but That said, like, I stopped nitpicking it once it did pick up. Yes, even though the playing was a little bit sloppy, it was a lot of fun when it, like, picked up and the bass started galloping. I thought, like, by then it's like, okay, I can feel this, and then there's the laughing, and yeah, that works. But, like, the slow parts, this is not, this isn't, like, the slow, spooky version of Sabbath. This isn't the backing band for that, I don't think. Yeah, I'd agree. All right, so side 2, I think we got a really good selection of tracks here. We got Fairies Wear Boots, War Pigs, and The Wizard. And I think that was the first time The Wizard was played by, like Not Black Sabbath. Yeah. Well, I was going to say even I don't think Black Sabbath played it in a long time before he played it on here, but I wonder who plays the harmonica. I think Ozzy plays it on here. Ozzy does. Okay. I saw that on I just looked at that. Yeah. I'm looking at the band photo on the back here, and it's the guys with the big poofy, poodle-y hair. That was not a good era for hair, I don't think. No, no, no. The bangs. Nobody had a good haircut. His later eighties haircut was like He's like Farrah Fawcett. Yeah. Well, that was the look. Yeah. He reunited with Sabbath for, like, 3 songs at some, like, events, and you could tell it was from 85 just by the look of his hair. Oh, it was Live Aid. Yeah. Live Aid. Yeah. All right. Other side, too. cities named after bands like Chicago. Yeah. And Kansas. And Boston. But they named Chicago after the band because they're so good. Let's start a band right now called Omaha. I think it's great how all those small towns name themselves after the water towers, though. Yeah. All right. And we're back from side B of Speak or Talk of the Devil. What did you guys think? Woo! liked 2 out of 3 songs, and the one I didn't like was one that I really loved the Sabbath version of, but what's she going to do? I agree. Although these are 3 of my favorite Sabbath songs, so if they would have messed up any one of these, it would have been a disappointment. Yeah, I agree. But, like, yeah, 2 out of 3, pretty good. Yeah, I think. As Meatlo says, 2 out of 3 ain't bad. I think for the bluesier numbers on this one, having Tommy Aldridge on drums, like, really benefited them because he fucking nailed. Oh, yeah. He has our boots in the wizard. Yeah. Great drummer. The track you weren't really that impressed with was War Pigs. Was that just, I don't like it as much? Did it still work for you as part of the full set, or did it not work for you at all? It really didn't work for me. It was a letdown. As a big fan of the original, I felt like every choice they made was worse than the original in a way. yeah and it felt like the one song he didn't know very well at all and then he and then he was just faking it to make it you know kind of thing that's what it felt like the first solo was not good no it was not good for a guy that has been absolutely shredding the whole record that was the first not good solo After I heard it, I was like, I wonder if they could have just not done the whole set and found a few other songs to cut into a single album. That's how much I didn't like that version of it. I still think this probably could have been one single album with the songs that it has. Yeah, see, but I think because of the canon of Black Sabbath, he did have war pigs on there. Oh, the record label would have never let them get away with that. They needed to have that in the set. And if I was there, I probably would have dug it. You know what I mean? If I was in the crowd. But here, listening back to it, it is the letdown. But I mean, when I put this album on, I've never had a moment where I was like, that's a terrible version of War Pigs. But I mean, I agree with you is that it's not as good as the Sabbath studio version. It's not as good as any of the Sabbath live versions I've heard. Yeah, I agree. But as like a fun live set of songs, it doesn't bother me at all. We'll get into it a little more. Well, yeah, we can go right into Fairies Wear Boots. Take that. Good version. The song was a great version. The drums were great. The performance was Great. Got that swing and swagger that the original has. And you have to have that for this kind of song. It's a grooving song. And Brad Gillis, being more of a heavy metal shredder than a bluesy IOMI guy, I think, did a fantastic, Great job adding his own flair to most of these tracks, including this one. I liked his solo at the end, yeah, Without sounding exactly like the original. Well, and him trying to do more of one of the bluesier-sounding Sabbath songs made it kind of. This sounded kind of like to me, like what if Led Zeppelin did Fairies Wear Boots? Yeah, I can see that. Well, it's kind of funny that you say that, because how they found Randy Rhoades? well, besides the fact that he was kind of a popular guitar player because he was in choir, is that every guitar player that came to audition for Ozzy all sounded like they were trying to be tony, yeah, uh, iomi and so like. then randy rhodes came in and he sounded completely different and he's like and like. he played for like 4 minutes or something like that, and i was like you got the fucking job dude. yeah, he pretty much, uh, just warmed up and i remember reading that randy like left that thinking like he didn't even hear me play. yeah, yeah, cause his tone was so different than everybody else's. so I mean like his tone is kind of what made Ozzy's like voice during his solo career. so to have kind of this where it's like a Randy Rhodes type sound kinda and then bringing it back to Sabbath, is kind of interesting to hear. that's the way I was going with that. yeah, When I saw Ozzy on his own, I think it would have been like 20 11, 20, 12.

He had Gus G on guitar and I just remember thinking: 52:14

oh, thank God, I get to see him with Gus G and not Zach Wilde. Anything you say about Brad Gillis? on this at least he doesn't put a pinch harmonic everywhere, like. I know it's a common criticism of Zach Wild, but it's like it's a criticism for a reason. but yeah, I think fairies wear boots. favorite favorite song on the record so far for me, I agree, I agree very much. so I don't know The Wizard, Maybe The Wizard. The next song, War Pigs, is the next one. Oh yeah, Did we already talk about The Wizard? No, we haven't talked about that. War Pigs is also my least favorite so far. Yeah, that version was kind of crap. I've heard Sabbath cover bands do it better. I mean I hate to say it like that, like I'm being really disrespectful, but I have. I've heard, like a professional Sabbath cover band, do that song better than that. And the way you put it while we were listening to it, it's like they sped it up not to give it more energy. but it sounded like they're trying to get through it. Yeah, they're just trying to speed through it. They're like, oh, here's War Pigs, We got to play this, And that may have been the attitude too. Like you said, the record company probably wouldn't have let them put out a Sabbath cover album without War Pigs on it. Well, the only guy that wanted to do this was Ozzy. Yeah, that's true. And then I don't even know why he wanted to do it. I think I read somewhere back. He's probably trying to get back at his old band. Don't say revenge, Don't say revenge, Revenge. Oh, shoot What. I also read somewhere that they had also just gotten publishing rights back to a lot of the songs. So, like Ozzy stood to make money off the publishing, but also the other Sabbath members. So I guess everybody kind of won with this one. Yeah, Yeah, I was like he had. I was going to say he had to pay the other members to record this. right. He had to pay somebody. Oh yeah, They had to get some writing royalties for this too. Yeah, Yeah, I think their names are on it somewhere. So I guess, like this and Live Evil coming out right next to each other, Good payday. Yeah, it benefited all 4 of the original members of Sabbath. I think Yeah. and I saw an interview where they asked Geezer about this and he said they couldn't afford not to release Live Evil and he said that Ozzy got forced into doing this record. Yeah, Live Evil, they had to make for money. Yeah, Let's see War Pigs, The Wizard. Oh, we already talked about War Pigs. Yeah, The Wizard. I love this song and it's cool that he's playing harmonica on it. Yeah, I love this version too. Yeah, this version's kick-ass. The drums especially, stood out. The drums and harmonica are what stood out to me the most on this. Tommy Aldrich, I didn't really know fucking shredded like this. he's really good. I gotta listen to more. Black Oak, Arkansas. like I said this guy is the closest I've heard come to Bill, besides Bill himself, cause I'm not that impressed with Vinny Appesee and Cozy Pals in his own like territory. well, Vinny Appesee has always been living in the shadow of his brother. yeah, Carmine Appesee is incredible. It's not like. I don't dislike Vinny, but I really wish Bill played on Devil. You Know, That's the only note I have about that whole album, Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't know Which. we'll find out when I bring it in sometime. How many seasons are we going to have as a podcast? How many Black Sabbath albums are there, Because you can only do one season? Well, we ain't getting to get any more, unless, uh, unless Tony's like. well, he's in the ground. now, Tony Martin coming, coming up, They bring, they bring Tony. poor Tony Martin, They like, bring him out of the basement. The most loyal Sabbath member, Yeah Been dragged through the mud. I only said he's been working on an album with one singer and I really hope it's Tony Martin. That'd be cool. What if? what if they just call it- I owe me Martin, It'd be fine. What if they call it headless cross? Yeah, That's a good band name. It is, I think, Crossless Head, Crossless Head, Cross Purposes Yeah, Cross Pollination. They should do. They should get Ian Gillen and do Born Again, Yeah, Born Again Again, All right

Side 3: 56:49

We got NIB, One of my favorite Sabbath songs,

One of my favorite Sabbath songs: 56:56

Sweet Leaf, Sweatloaf, Sweatloaf, Sweatloaf. I do like Sweet Leaf, Never Say Die, which was the It's kind of an interesting choice. It makes sense because that was the most recent album they had released with Ozzy, like after he left. So it makes sense that it's here. But, like you know, 50 years later like knowing what they think about that album. it was interesting that it ended up here. I think it's the best one on that album. I remember that album being kind of shit. No, that's unsabotaged. No, no, I remember that album being shit, but I haven't heard it in years. so I like that one more than Technical Ecstasy, and I like both those albums. They're just not as good as the first 6. Remember when? Oh, go ahead. Oh, I was going to say you were talking about how bad the Black Sabbath album covers are. I like the cover from Never Say Die. That's like the only one. I like The 2 jet pilots. Everybody has the t-shirt of it, including me. Even though I'll make jokes about it. I do like the cover for Sabotage. I like Bill Ward's fucking. I mean yeah, Bill Ward's fucking red pants, Stupid, sexy Bill. Yeah, Yeah, I love that. none of them were under the impression that they were doing an album cover when they took that picture. Oh, is that why it looks so fucking Dumb? Yeah, Remember, Well, you look at Tony. He's in his day clothes. Yeah, Bill is literally wearing his mom's sweatpants, Or not? his mom's, His wife's matching slippers. Ozzy's in a fucking Komodo, which I guess makes sense. And heels. Ozzy's wearing heel heels. He has to be taller than every other member of the band. Yeah, remember when Lucid Fugue covered Junior's eyes, though. Oh yeah, Speaking of late era Ozzy, I want to redo the vocals on that and put it out. We should do that soon. I love you, sweet leaf. All right, All right Y'all. ready for side 3? Yeah, Y'all, ready for this. Dun, dun, dun, Robots having sex. This is a bad album cover. That one sucks. That album cover looks like a rejected Hawkwind album cover. There's one good song. What's the one good song on that? Dirty Women. Yeah, that one. Dirty Women. When we do the Oops, All Bad album season. I think that might be the Sabbath album I pick. I kind of want to pick 13, just because a bunch of people online bitch about it, but it's not a bad album. I think people just bitch about it. Are we doing bad albums or just albums that people have strong negative opinions about? Oh, I know, I think it's like a broad definition. It could be a bad album. It could be a critically panned album that gained a cult, following later It could be. I don't know. maybe the artist hates it. you know that kind of stuff. Pinkerton would be a good one because, like You, mean the best Weezer album. Yeah, well, at the time though, It was panned at the time. It was panned at the time and people like, were saying it was like one of the worst albums ever like and it was their sophomore effort, and it didn't sound like the blue album. so people didn't like it, And the lyrics are uncomfortably creepy. Yeah, so, So it's like. So it's like Cable Guy, except in album form. But then retroactively, people started to re listen to it and yeah, like Weezer, hated it because they, it was like their kind of experiment. and then, like they, they, so they wouldn't even go near it until, I think, 20 years later, they toured and would play the whole album on tour. but yeah, It is their best album. Anyways.

And I will still say: 1:00:56

the lyrics are uncomfortably creepy. Yeah, I agree. Speaking of uncomfortably creepy Ozzy Osbourne, Depending on the era anyway, During this era you probably wouldn't want to run into Ozzy. He was pretty crazy. This same period he pissed on the Alamo, which I think was actually pretty cool of him. Yeah, And it wasn't actually on the Alamo or something. It was on the wall, but he was. he was wearing sharon's dress at the time. awesome, i want to pee on the alamo from the left, yeah, but yeah, um, that was side 3. uh, 3 songs. nib, sweet leaf, never say die. what'd you guys think? um, i think gotta say, maybe the weakest side so far. I did like the version of Never Say Die. I liked everything, but I personally didn't find any of it super compelling or like that. it brought anything new or needed to be made, or anything. you know. passable version of sweet leaf. um, a version of nib that started strong and then just kind of petered out. i thought it was too fast, like it was like way too fast. that seems to be. a common problem is that a lot of it is just really fast, and i think sabbath is a band that lends itself more to a slower tempo. But maybe this means that the version of Paranoid off of this will be great, because that is a song that's good fast. I guess I kind of look at it this way. This is Ozzy's solo band doing Sabbath songs, so I guess when they stray into a faster pace it doesn't really bother me because I don't see this as Sabbath. Yeah, well, that's a dumb way to think about it. But NIV is like one of my favorite songs by Sabbath and like for them to kind of play it more metal than like. you know. I didn't particularly care for this version, At least you know, in comparison to other versions I've heard, Like basically everything Dave said about War Pigs, I kind of felt about this one, Like. I felt like the guitar tone was off, Like it was just missing something. No bass solo. That's what I was missing. No bass solo. And I agree with you, Steve. There is something messed up with this version. And then the end was like the generic hair metal outro, The. That said, I thought Rudy Sarza did a great job on the bass line for it. Yeah, he kicks ass. The bass player is killing it. The drummer bass player is killing it. The guitar player. he's doing a really good job for someone that just learned the song. So I'm giving him credit for that. If you only had a few days to learn what, like, how many songs are on this album, uh, it's 12. yeah, that's pretty good. yeah, maybe if you'd have another week and it had to have been like a major pain in the ass to like, track down these songs to learn them too- i mean nowadays, you know, you can do that pretty easily like. i'm thinking about that dude that filled in for mastodon like right at the last minute, like that had to have been a herculean task that would have been impossible in the pre-digital age. yeah,

first track: 1:04:14

NIB, Meh, Meh, Not the worst version I ever heard. Wouldn't skip it? I mean, when I put this on I tend to listen to the whole thing. I agree, We're just being nitpicky because that's kind of the format. but I don't think I would actually skip any of these songs. I think they're all decent songs. Like, if I was listening in my car, I wouldn't notice all the things that I've nitpicked on the 2 songs. that didn't really work for me. so, Yeah, And up until I mean these were my introductions to these songs. so Obviously I'm going to be biased based on that. but But yeah, after hearing the Sabbath versions it becomes a lot more obvious, like you know where they they fudged in certain spots. but you know, sometimes that ends up, uh, resulting in some cool moments on this album. i think as well. yeah, yeah, um, next song, sweet leaf, it was all right. yeah, yeah, and they did do a good, uh, but clayton was like setting it's kind of hard to fuck this song up. yeah, it's kind of a hard song to fuck up like. the riff is just so good that it's so simple. it's kind of, if you fuck it up, you gotta try to fuck it up. yeah, yeah, But that opener, that, See, I mean that doesn't hit like I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, you fucked it up, I don't know what to tell you. Well, then, it's such a good riff that a band fucked it up on purpose and it still worked, which was the Butthole Surfers with Smutloaf. And then, well, yeah, Speaking of buttholes, watching the Osbournes watch the Osbournes, Jack made Kelly reveal what her AOL username was, and it was butthole love, Love with L-U-V. Butthole love, That is an A-I-M

high schooler. uh name, yeah, well, it was jacks, was jack sabbath. oh yeah, that's clever. and then he was. but then like. they were like, oh, like, like, uh, why? uh, zach sabbath, you know, yeah. and then, uh, but it was funny because the girl that's like their, like moderator. uh, she's really funny, she's, she's fucking hilarious and she's like. she's like i think i've. uh, she said to ozzy: 1:06:08

uh, i think i've seen your asshole more than i've seen my own or something,

Because they were showing clips of Ozzy mooning the crowd, and so she's like: 1:06:37

I think I've seen your asshole more than I've seen my own. How often do you see your own asshole? Exactly, I had an ex that said Ozzy has a hot ass. so There you go, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa Heard it here first. folks, Are you jealous? No, why would you be jealous? Yeah, At the time I was because I wasn't polyamorous yet, All right, And then close out with Never Say Die, the title track to the last album they did with him. I liked this version quite a bit Like this is good, Reminded me of Thin Lizzy. Yeah, Yeah, I was saying I hadn't heard. I haven't heard. I only heard Never Say Die, like probably one time. So this was basically like hearing a new song and I thought it was good. Not as good as Symptom of the Universe. and I feel like they're kind of like similar songs. Yeah, I'll agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. I was like Sun Silence. maybe I'm wrong. No, no, They're similar in tone, but I think Symptom was better. Oh yeah, Symptom of the Universe I actually thought was a kick-ass opener. Yeah, I was just lukewarm on this whole side.

Everything was like: 1:07:54

oh yep, these are Sabbath songs. This is a great Sabbath cover band. Yeah, I guess this side was just the cover band side. Speaking of cover bands, it was really cool to see Talking Heads dude, David Byrne. He just randomly walked into a cover band set and just performed with them. It was pretty cool. It was like a small stage. It was like a tiny gay bar in New York. He just showed up one night and got on stage. He was gay, David Byrne. Yeah, I remember seeing some. I think it was Chris Novoselic- was like. He just like randomly showed up. There was like a Nirvana cover band and like. there's footage of this- and he just randomly showed up and like, was watching the Nirvana cover band and like the bass player is playing and all of a sudden he looks down and he's like holy fuck, you know. so anyways, yeah, that's funny to me. yeah, all right side 4, uh, we got sabbath, bloody sabbath. nice iron man slash, children of the grave. that's cheating. that's 2 fucking songs. Well, they kind of mashed them together in an Aussie solo set. I think they completely omitted the Iron Man solo part, and that's when they go into Children of the Grave or something like that, And then they close out with Paranoid Fun fact. the band was told that they weren't going to release these songs with him. They were going to just use a recording of Randy Rhoads playing these 3 songs. So they said, ah, just go loose, You don't have to learn them note for note. Oh so, these last 3 songs are real. Yeah, they ended up saving those for the tribute live album. So I don't remember how rough those were. I don't remember thinking they sounded rough when, when I listened to like the bootleg, but I was also at work like not critically listening. So we'll see how well those go. I've heard a version of Randy Rhoads playing Paranoid. It was pretty good. From the Randy Rhoads tribute album. Oh, probably, yeah. Because his solo on that version is fucking awesome. Anyway, sorry. Fun fact, he was not a Sabbath fan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we already talked about that. Yeah, you mentioned that, Steve. Hey, did you know Well, I'm ADHD, so I'm going to mention it 3 more times. Hey, Steve, did you know Randy Rhoades wasn't a Sabbath fan? What? He didn't even really like Black Sabbath, though. Yeah, that's why he was so different. And when he went to the audition, I'm going to be telling this story again. Classical guitar. He actually wasn't even that big of a Sabbath fan. Did you know that? I didn't know that. He wasn't a Sabbath fan. So you know who else wasn't a Sabbath fan? Randy Rhodes. All right. We're done trolling Steve. I also looked it up, and I didn't know that Rudy Sarzo was also the bass player from Quiet Riot and joined Ozzy's band on Randy's suggestion. Because I guess him and Randy Rhoads were really close friends. While they were doing this album, he was Maybe not this album. While he was in Ozzy's band, he was secretly recording Metal Health. And when that album got released, he was like, Goodbye, Ozzy. And it pissed Ozzy off so much that a few years later, he punched him backstage. But he ended up playing the Back to the Beginning show, so I guess everything i mean bygones be guy guns well you quit ozzy to be in to play the metal health quiet right album yeah well like lou reed uh his biggest solo album transformer was like recorded by david bowie david bowie wanted to do another album and lou reed punched him for it Because he hated the sound of Transformer. Yeah. Apparently he challenged Lars to a street fight. Yeah. Well, and then shortly after that, there's a live Bowie performance, the one that makes it on the Ziggy Stardust live concert movie, where Bowie does I'm Waiting for the Man by the Velvet Underground, and he's like, this is a song by one of the best songwriters I know. I hope he still likes me. Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! All right, side 4, let's do this. Oh, Kramer. It sucks because he's like my favorite part of the show, too. He's the best part of the show. UHF, he's so funny. What a funny guy. Damn. just can't say that. You just can't say those things. He said the unsayable word. Yeah, he said some unsayable. I like the episode of South Park. They did about it, too. Yeah. What's your favorite quote from that? Do you have any good quotes from that episode you had to say? Do you have any good quotes from the Kramer Man? Let's get Dave over the microphone now. Let's get Dave canceled. Speaking of speaking, Speak of the Devil by Ozzy Osbourne. Welcome back, everyone. Talk of the devil. Talk of the devil. Talk of the devil. Talk of the devil, dude. What did you guys think of the last side? Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was the one that was Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is the rehearsal song, correct? Yeah. Are we correct in that? We're guessing Correct. Yeah! The instruments are so different. Like, the recording is way different. Well, and you guys pointed out, like, you couldn't really hear the crowd during the rest of it, but they faked the crowd for that song, and it was fucking obvious. It's so obvious that it's just a fake crowd. I just started hearing the crowd through it, and I'm like, they fucking put that in there. And it was also like the weird kind of fake live fidelity of the vocals matched the rest of the instruments. Well, they were recording in the same space, but it was empty. I mean, there wasn't thousands of pounds of human meat there to soak up the sound. So, yeah, it was obvious. Yeah. And it was funny because I remember you even perked up and went, oh, we're supposed to be looking out for the one that was the fake one, right? And I'm like, oh, yeah, even if it was subconscious, that's when you noticed. Yeah. This is different than the rest. I actually noticed it when I was going to the bathroom. I'm like, this sounds weird. Yeah. Yeah, again, you know. And then they skipped, like, parts of the song, so. The high part. Yeah. Where can you run to? So, like, even if they skipped it, like, I wouldn't imagine them skipping it live, like, if they were playing it live. And even if they, like, because even if he didn't nail it, he was going back and redoing his vocals anyways. Mm-hmm. So he probably could have hit it, like, in the studio. Yeah. I'm curious about the sessions for that little, like, rehearsal, because, like, I wonder if maybe this was just, like, maybe they warmed up with it and they just had Ozzy put vocals over it or something, because it's, yeah. As far as I know, every single other song on this came from the second night. yeah uh that was the the faked 11 thing that i like this as a song this isn't unique to this version but like the slower parts are where you can really hear like the inner hippie that that is aussie come through too it's not just the prince of darkness it's the you can kind of hear the peace and love guy it's the prince of peace and love yeah yeah Well, I just wanted to say, because I was going to say it earlier, but this album actually was kind of a hit. It was number 14 on the US Billboard two hundred chart. It peaked at number fourteen, and then the UK albums, it was number 21, and the Canada albums, it was number 10. Paranoid off of this album was a It peaked at number 25. A moderate hit. So it was a moderate hit, a mainstream rock radio. And then Iron Man and Children of the Grave was 32. Yeah, I think it beat out Live Evil in sales. Ozzy's just a bigger name. Yeah. He was huge at this point. Ozzy was bigger than Black Sabbath at this point, honestly. Bigger than Jesus. Bigger than Jesus. Well, I mean, coming off of blizzard of oz and dire of a madman which were both incredible albums yeah and huge commercial successful albums so yeah i just thought i just wanted to point out that this album actually was a success and what's interesting is uh It's out of print. Like, Ozzy didn't like it as part of his catalog, so eventually he just let it go out of print. So you can't find it on the streaming services. You can't find it on YouTube. That's how I've been listening to it this week, getting ready for the episode. And you can also find you can find the full bootleg show on YouTube and then you can find parts of the The 26th show the one for the preceding night that album that you have right there is actually like I looked on Amazon it's like two hundred dollars I got it for 5. So you might actually have something that's worth some money there. They always try to say it's like new, but then, yeah, whatever. Discogs is probably a lot different. I think this is one you could probably easily still find if you go around to a few different record stores. They probably printed so many copies of it when it came out in Ozzy's heyday. If it peaked at number 14, it sold well. I honestly kind of get why Ozzy came to not like it. I enjoyed it, but he got back on good terms with the rest of the guys in Sabbath, and he did reunion shows with them that the recordings of are Better than this. Yeah. The Reunion album is better than this album, I just think. Yeah. I remember buying the Reunion, like, live album back in the nineties. Yeah, I've got a CD copy of it right over there, actually. I also, you know, like, part of this was, you know, kind of setting up a definitive, like, greatest hits, like, song list to put on this album, too, to some degree. And I don't think that That's what he would consider to be, you know, like all the songs that he wants that necessarily the band to be remembered by even at this point, like some of them. Yeah. But like, I think there's a degree to which, you know, this is what he wanted to have the definitive statement on what the band was at that time. And that probably shifted over the years. Mm hmm. Yeah, I'd say so. And in the modern day, I mean, Ozzy has a big collection of solo songs to also be proud of. Although, I mean, those first 2 albums, like the Tribute album is a great live album in its own. So, you know, this is a fun release, I'd say. Probably would have been awesome to attend one of these shows. Yeah. And it's a record label mandated release that probably wouldn't have existed for any artistic reason. But that said, I think it's still really fun to listen to. And if it's something you're already familiar with, check out the bootlegs. The bootlegs are interesting. He doesn't sound perfect. In fact, you guys heard he sounds atrocious on a few songs. Yeah. But it, like, you actually get the energy of the show. Like, one thing about this album is that the crowd noises were legitimate, and you could tell, like Except on Sabbath Boys. Yeah, except for that one. In which case, I'm sure they pulled that from, like, another part of the show, even. Side 4, on the last 3 songs, the Iron Man, Children of the Grave, Paranoid, the band was basically told, we're going to use the Randy Rhoads version that actually ended up on tribute. So they were like, don't worry about that one, guys. You can let loose. You don't got to learn those note for notes. And I think it benefited the performance. Yeah. And I think it led to more interesting versions of the song. I think they were good takes. Especially the solo in Paranoid was crazy. I thought it was great. Solo in Paranoid was fucking wild. Nothing like Iommi's solo, but really damn good in its own right. He was absolutely shredding. Yeah. um so i kind of wish like they would have approached the entire album that way but yeah oh well it's like the whole thing where you're like when you're recording you like you play the song perfectly all the time in practice on stage and blah blah blah and then you go to hit the record button you're like fuck i forgot how to play Alright, track by track, we already really went through Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, so the Iron Man Children of the Grave medley, mashup, however you want to say it, I think, Dave, you mentioned you liked their approach to that? Yeah, I liked the crowd work leading into it, I thought that was really good, and that also is just a good demonstration of just how charismatic Ozzy was as a frontman. the way he's getting the crowd to go along with it. And yeah, I thought that was I thought that was really cool. I liked I liked the transition into Children of the Grave. I thought they picked a good spot to do it. And I like mashing these 2 songs together. I thought that it really worked. Iron Man is In my opinion, like the most overplayed of the classic Sabbath songs. I don't mind doing a shortened version that's kind of spliced in with a little bit of a deeper cut. I know it's not that deep of a cut, but, you know, one that's comparatively. Yeah. And. I like the novelty of putting those 2 songs together rather than just doing all of Iron Man. Yeah, he probably wouldn't have been able to get away with it later in his career. I don't think they ever did this when they reunited. I don't think they'd ever be able to get away with splicing the 2 together. But I thought it was a smooth, smooth transition into the other song. yeah that's the way that they've been performing it in his solo set uh they do the exact same thing on uh on tribute and uh yeah like you said we've heard iron man so many times like uh it was cool to like do the meat of that song and then uh and then transition into uh a deeper cut that uh i think probably deserved uh more attention so yeah I think Children of the Grave also benefited from the same energy that the band brought to Symptom of the Universe as well. Yeah, it was harder. And then, yeah, at least the finale, Paranoid, damn good version. Yeah, damn good version, great solo. Bam sounds like they're having fun, like not trying to replicate Sabbath and just doing their own take on it. It was good. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, great. Great recording. Great record. Great record. Yeah, and that brings us to the end. I think, you know, it's an album worth listening to. Yeah. It's solid for what it is. Yeah. Like, it's a It's a label-mandated Black Sabbath cover album by Ozzy that nobody really wanted to do except Ozzy and the label. But it still turned out pretty good. It could have been worse. It just shows the talent of Ozzy to still pull it together, even though he re-recorded everything in the studio. But also the talent to the bands the musicians that he brought in yeah you know like it's an impressive story i mean they didn't have a whole lot of time to get that together and uh you know uh i think uh part of uh them like flying on the seat of their pants uh with it almost ready to fall apart at any moment uh lends to some of the charm of it yeah yeah Yeah. A hypothetical single album version, though, where you leave off War Pigs, all of Side Three, and maybe cut down on some of the crowd work moments between, though, I think would be a really cool single album. Yeah. I don't think I'd make any changes. I enjoy putting this one on from time to time. I mean, when it comes to Live Sabbath, you've got so many better choices, but I think it's a unique release. It's a cool time capsule, too. I do think it's valid. Yeah, I'd rather like to have one of those. I'm not going to pay two hundred dollars for it, though. Fuck you. You can get it on Discogs for relatively cheap. Mint ones. Sometime we should take a trip over to the record shop over in Council Bluffs and browse through his stuff because he's got like a huge collection. One thing you could always do is you could get a USB turntable. That's what mine is. And you can rip it onto your computer. oh i could do one of them yeah but the one i have it all rips it as one song you have to like yeah stop it in the grooves and like physically start a new track or else it'll just record it all as one long song yeah or get like an audio editing program and like break it yeah It's almost like what they did with Husker Du's first album, which was a completely live album. It's called Land Speed Record. But on the CD version, it's only 2 tracks because it's basically one side, second side. I don't listen Like, since I only have the CD version, I don't listen to it that often because they didn't break it up into songs. Yeah, I know. And it's sonically not great. No, it's very sloppy from the board. Like, the performance is fine, but the recording sucks. Yeah. It's too bad that they decided to make that their first record, honestly. Well And that was Speak of the Devil. That was, yeah. That was Speak of the Devil. Speak of the Devil, better than Land Speed Record by Husker Du. Yes. All right, well, rest in peace, Ozzy. We love you, Ozzy. R.I.P., Ozzy. R.I.P. Made a lot of music that impacted me greatly. If it wasn't for him, I don't know if I'd be a musician today. Well, it's like when people were saying that we probably wouldn't have heavy metal without Black Sabbath. especially like the early, earlier years. I think that's actually true. Like to some degree, like other genres, you can take out a single artist and it would more or less develop as it was, you know, like if we took out the Ramones, we'd still have punk rock. yeah there's still people doing stuff like that yeah it's an interesting thought experiment because you take out black sabbath i mean i'm sure they had a gigantic influence on fellow birmingham band judas priest and yeah you know in a lot of ways like i consider sabbath like more of a heavy rock band and sabbath is and priest is more the first heavy metal band but i mean without the heavy rock of black sabbath there wouldn't have been the heavy metal of judas priest so and without steppenwolf you wouldn't have the term heavy metal yeah well i don't know about that because we listened to that song heavy metal with the movie yeah that don felder song so don felder could have invented heavy metal stuff no it was off uh born to be uh born to be wild because he says heavy metal thunder yeah love you Ozzy I know my voice sounds sarcastic but I Ozzy was a huge influence on me too like our Black Sabbath and like when I was a kid learning like Iron Man when I was starting to play guitar Paranoid that kind of stuff so Iron Man's one of the first riffs I learned I think the first riff I learned was Smoke on the Water and then the second one was Iron Man I was saying everybody the first 2 riffs they learned are Smoke on the Water that was the first 2 riffs I learned yeah I liked it before it was cool. As soon as that song came out, as soon as those songs came out, everybody learned them on guitar. Well, I'll say this about Ozzy. I wasn't too upset when he died just because my first thought was, hell yeah, what a fucking life. He beat all the odds. He made it. Made a lot of cool moments along the way. He outlived a lot of his contemporaries. I was shocked he outlived Dio. In fact, I think Ozzy was shocked he outlived Dio. I remember seeing reports that he was upset and considering his own mortality after Dio passed away. Which, I mean, that had to have been kind of a mindfuck, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it'll be out by the time this episode airs, but I recorded a version of Paranoid where I played all the instruments that I'll be putting out soon, so keep an eye out for that. Hey, y'all. Future Steve here. This is out, and you can now check it out on all major streaming platforms. Yay! You can catch me and Dave and Sean in a band called The Illiterates. We're about to work on a new album soon. And we're going to be on a Christmas compilation. We are. And another compilation after that, hopefully. So we recorded a really cool version of John Cale's Child's Christmas in Wales. Yeah. I really liked how that one turned out. Yeah. And then Clayton, do you want to plug your shit? Yeah. I'm in a band called Jeremy Mercy and the Rapture Orphans. We are recording a new album currently and it will be out soon. And I also have a new vaguely Sopranos themed sludge metal band named Manson Lamps. You can go ahead and look us up and we'll have a record out soon as well. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, brothers. Keep on keeping on. Keep the faith. RIP Ozzy. Peace, love, and riff. Now let's do some lines. For Manson Lamps, you should do a sludge metal cover of Don't Stop Believin', but stop it in the middle. Don't stop. yeah that'd be good yeah we may we did walk out to the sopranos theme song at our last show i like made the sound man put it on fuck yeah i was like will you play this before we stop you suggested we do like a medley of people that passed away this year and uh um what was that it was uh something from black sabbath yeah i think i think you said who are you which i think would be good but i also think maybe killing yourself to live would be good or a sabbath bloody sabbath could also be good for that but we'll we'll negotiate but yeah um i would like to do a pair ubu song i was thinking like 30 seconds over tokyo because i think that would flow well like either to or from a black sabbath song um and then gang of 4 since uh their bassist their original bassist died i think ether would be one that would fit with those other 2 you know we gotta do the hulk hogan america song but i also think we also have to do feel so good by chuck mangione oh yeah what i was thinking too though is like close it off with like tom lair we'll all go together when we go there we go yeah Then finish it all with, always look on the bright side of life. But Michael Palin is still alive, hopefully for a while. Well, that was Eric Idle. Oh, yeah. Eric Idle, yeah. He's also still alive. No, he's dead. He died last year. The only one that Graham Chapman and Terry Jones are the only 2 that passed away. That are still alive? No, those are the 2 that passed. Oh, I thought Eric Idle was dead, too. No, he's alive. Just like last year. No, Terry Jones and Graham Chapman. Yeah, Terry Gilliam, John Cleese, Michael Palin, Eric Idle, all still kicking. All right. I think they all hate each other at this point. No, I think they all hate John Cleese. But yeah. I don't think so. All right. All right. All right. Let's close it. See you later, guys. Fuck off. And say a thing. Oh, catch you on the flip side. 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Check, check, check, check, check, check. Check, check, check, check, check, check. Leonard Bernstein. I hate it so much I skipped the whole Destroyer. Allow me to play you out. Dirty Dave just pooped his pants. Hmm, yes, yes indeed. Perfect, uh, hooker murdering song. Kick out the jams, motherfucker! Are you Oh, Steve's got some cheese. Get my podcast voice ready to go. Jawobble. What a name. I'm Ivan Moody, and I'm having a psychotic break. Testicles. That is a fun fact. There's a jazz hole. What do you mean this song is called Sweet Pea? Now that we're done with Steve's Rorschach test, let's talk about the album. For fuck's sake. That's not very Vivian of you guys. It's a professional operation over here. This is Fantasia for people who had to repeat the 9th grade. Heavy metal. Yeah, hands off, Britain. We're dumping in the sea again. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know. I love California. Cunt. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. 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