MIC Living outside of the box

New Conversation with Mic | Channeling Creativity, Conscious Children & Living Beyond the Box

What happens when we stop trying to fit into the world's expectations and start listening to our own inner knowing?

In this heartfelt conversation, I sit down with my friend Mic to explore his creative journey and the inspiration behind his artwork. We talk about what it means to channel creativity, how art can become a language of the soul, and why following that inner guidance can completely reshape our lives.

We also dive into the next generation—children who seem to arrive with a different awareness, unique gifts, and a perspective that challenges the old ways of thinking.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Thank you for joining me today on Truth Resonates Podcast. We are videoing this one, so it's going to drop, depending on the conversation, YouTube or Rumble. It might get a little spicy. Um, but you will have Truth Resonates Podcast Audio to listen to on your favorite podcast channel. I have a special guest with me today, and I'm gonna ask him to introduce himself because he's such a wonderful, unique, eclectic human being.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Well, hello everybody. Um my actual name is Michelangelo. Uh the last name is Lial Cala, which is of Spanish descent. Uh, I go by the personality on X as Mick 8833. You guys have seen me, I'm sure. Well, if you're watching this, you probably have seen me. So that's who I am. I'm an artist and a carpenter. And I just do my thing and try not to cause wreckage in the world.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

I encountered Mick on the platform X, and uh, what first caught my attention was his artwork. So tell us about how you got started in that, where your passion is. You do a lot of different mediums. Which ones are your favorite?

SPEAKER_01 1:48

Well, currently I'm working mostly in just my pen and ink drawings. Um, I do, I mean, I I was doing artwork when I was a small child. I mean, my mom saved my very first drawing when I was like two and a half years old as a picture of a shark. And it actually looks like a shark. It's got a bunch of dorsal pins and all, but for our two-year-old's representation of a shark, it looks like a shark. It's it's pretty amazing. I think I still have that picture. But um, no, I started out um just watching my dad do oil paintings and stuff, and I liked what he was doing. And I you know, I started to draw, and then you know, as time progressed, I got into different mediums. But my favorite medium, I think, is is oil. I love to oil paint. Um, although I haven't been doing much of it as of late in the last year because I've been concentrating on other things, you know, life, life on life's terms, and uh so there hasn't been a lot of free time to do the painting. But that and I also love to do uh sculpture. So I do a lot of sculpture. I do, I make I I'm very multifaceted as far as my mediums. Um sculpture. I used to do bronze casting when I was younger when I had the money to do it, it's expensive to do.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Um but it's in fact, I have a little piece right here that I did. Oh, nice. Yeah, see again. It's heavy, it's got that weight to it. Yeah, it's got some weight to it, but um, I mean, among other things, that oil, uh, pen and ink. I do also designs, you know, um like tattoos for you know, friends and family and stuff. But uh yeah, there's just so many mediums that I that I know how to do. I also do pottery, which I haven't done in a couple years. But I will be doing it soon. As soon as I get all the chaos you know under under wraps, which I'm real close to having this household that I've been working on. And um so yeah, once once I get that back and running, I'm gonna I'm gonna be blowing out some pots because that is you know, I'm gonna backtrack and say that that's probably my favorite medium, pottery, because it forces you to stay centered. You know, it's a meditation of sorts, really, if you really think about it, because when you're you have that block of clay, right? Yeah, and you have to and you have to pull it and push it and get it centered, get all the the molecules aligned in a in a this you know, the spinning spiral. And you have to stay centered when you're doing that, because if you're off, your clay's gonna get off and it's gonna start wiggling. So it's it really is a powerful medium, and it's and it's clay. You're working the earth, you're working right.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

You're I was saying you're working with the elements, and it's a uh representation of your inward energy, yes, transmute it to the outward. Now, do you put anything on your Etsy store? Like if you create things like that, are you able to put anything on your Etsy store? I know you have one for your pen and ink.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Um, I have not yet. I I have been um looking at different pieces that I have to put on there to have um you know a different outlet for my other stuff. Yeah, but um the problem I have with a lot of the bigger stuff is the shipping part.

unknown 5:34

Right.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

Because then the shipping becomes yeah, you know, it'd be like local pickup. Local pickup.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Yeah, and then as funny is on my on my um drawings, my ink drawings, you know, my my codes, uh I've sold to a number of different countries, you know, people in different countries. Um you know, Netherlands, UK, France, Greece, Australia. I mean, I have pieces everywhere. And the shipping on those is a lot, it's it's crazy. It's I mean it was well anyway. I don't want to go down the that path of talking about money and all that because it's not about the money, it's about the artwork and the energy that's transferred through those pieces that that people can actually feel.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

You know, people your volume is really low. I'm having trouble hearing you. Oh really? Okay, yeah. It's kind of going in and out.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

All right. Maybe I'm not close enough to my microphone. Is that better?

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Um a little bit. This guy's coming back up. I think it's more of a signal thing, like it's kind of going in in and out.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

Yeah, it could be, it could be. Um, what was I talking about?

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Uh we were we you were about to talk about how much it costs to ship your artwork, but we got off money stuff. We're just looking at the art creation.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Yeah, it's it's mind-blowing the shipping uh to other countries. Is is that's the point I was making, is that it it it factors into um pricing and all that. So but my main thing is just to get the prints out there, get them to people, and so that they can have some kind of um you know healing, some kind of comfort, some kind of joy in their life, some kind of something that is outside of this world in the matrix or whatever you want to call it, the the the show. And and it just gives them a way to escape, a way to just tune all that out and just because when you gaze at these things, they really do yeah. Your mind wanders, you'll sit and you're just watching the lines, and it's like it takes you to another world, really. Yeah, this is what the feedback there's a feedback from what I'm hearing from people that have my pieces.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

Yeah, I have one, and um I deliver, I mean, I felt like a a frequency was delivered to my energy body from that piece. So do you want to talk about how you create them? Like what's your process?

SPEAKER_01 8:12

Um well, it's kind of a secret. No, it's not a secret, I'm just playing. Um, I what I do is I get I have to, it's more of a like a it's like a meditation in a sense. So I I clear my mind, I clear the energy in the room, I I put on music that and the music changes. It just depends. Sometimes I'll listen to you know uh frequency music. Sometimes I'll listen to Sophageo, uh how he's pronounced it wrong. Sophijo. Sophie, yeah, that uh tunes, or I'll listen to just regular you know music, my my playlist off of Spotify. Um anyway, it gets me in the mood, then I you know, I sit down, I clear my channel, I I become I basically ask God to to use me as conduit. You know, let your creative energy flow through me. Use use my hands as your tool and let whatever flow through. And it's not much of me involved in that as far as what I'm drawing. There's not much of Nick you know playing around with the colors. It's it's I'm in a I'm in a I'm in a creative state, a flow.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Right.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

That is uh it's hard to describe, really. I mean it's it's yeah, but it's beautiful. And I and it's you know, and I I try to do one every night. I don't always get them off every night because energies are sometimes whack. And um but yeah, it's always there's always an intent of sowing joy and peace. You know, there's never any negativity in these pieces ever. Because I don't want that to transfer on to people because if energy and frequency is real, exactly, yeah, and and what your intent that you put into things will multiply.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

And so that's why I firmly believe that artists of all types, so songwriters, musicians, um sculptors, painters, they're all channeling through their medium. That's what I believe. Oh yeah, they'll say, you know, I don't know where I got the inspiration from, it just came to me. Well, that's how it does. Like, you know, my my clair cognizance just comes to me and I just know stuff. Um, so you're channeling that, you're in the space, you're doing all the things to prepare the container for it to be clear through the divine. And it's the same thing as it's channel writing. If someone's trying to channel write or journal, you're not forming those paragraphs in your mind like a like a paper. You're literally the energy is literally coming through, you're bypassing the brain, you're bypassing the ego, and it's just coming through energetically in the more in the form of words. So when I see your pen and inks, for an example, it's the frequency that comes through, and it's like an image that translates as like like light language to me. So it's got a message, it's got it's got a meaning for me. But of course, that meaning for me may be different than someone else looking at it. They gets their meaning for them. It's very individual.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Yeah, it is, it is, and it's all the the message depends on the viewer. I tell people this is they ask, well, what does it mean? What does it translate to? I said, You tell me, you're the viewer. What does it mean? What is what is it telling you? What are you what are you picking up on it? You know, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

The um the one that really resonated with me, um, the reason I feel like it really resonated with me because in that particular moment, I was kind of going through a another transformation. Um I had let go of some things that had been um I thought was really important to me in that moment, I let go of it. And I was in that moment of the blank canvas that I talk about many times. Like, I don't know exactly where this is gonna lead me. I'm just gonna allow it to come in. And as I allowed that space to just be void, because I think as humans, we wanna, if we empty a room, we want to fill it right back up. Like there's this uncomfortableness with the emptiness. I think you can relate to that. And and allowing it to just be empty, and it it actually attract what's supposed to be there is completely different than setting an agenda to fill it, just for the spake sake of filling it. And that's kind of where I found myself like energetically, was I had opened up space for what was to come. And then you created what you created. Obviously, I had no idea about it, and it was it was named merge, and there were three separate um phases, and I was like, that's it. Like, this is me, this is what I'm going through right now. I left this behind and let go of that. I have that core center, and there's something else that's coming, and I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I welcome it. And it was those three um different convergences that was happening, and you named it merge, and it was just perfect. I'm like, I don't know what's happening there, but I have to have that. Sync beautiful, yeah, and that happens all the time. There are synchronicities everywhere. Um, I'm just happy that we're acquaintances at that point and was able, I was able to connect with you and and and do that and receive it. So I I definitely want you to find the space and time to continue to cultivate that because it's more than creating pretty things.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

Oh yeah. Yeah. Definitely uh yeah, definitely changing um I don't want to say changing, but but uh planting seeds basically.

unknown 14:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

Because it gets it gets people's minds going and they and they all right, just from my conversations with people that have that have you know have my pieces, it it will spawn some kind of uh either a creative process or it'll or it'll open a door for them to see things just a little bit different, see the picture a little different. So I know that they're doing good, that they're they're serving their purpose as far as spreading the light and the joy and the love.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

And I appreciate that you post them on X because we were talking a little while before we pushed record about doom scrollers, and I feel like that is a good infusion of light when someone's doom scrolling, it stops them in their tracks or has the potential to and to shift their energy, their lens, their focus from doom and gloom to light and love, like yeah, in an in an instant, right?

SPEAKER_01 15:43

And they see it, yeah. And whoa, what's that? Um, yeah, the uh yeah, because it's funny because I was I just had this conversation with my daughter last night about doom scrolling and being on your phone all the time and not having any human interaction and and connecting with people in in your in your real world. And I agreed with her. I was like, yeah, we do spend a lot of time on our phone, but and she was just getting she was more angry at the scrolling part of it, and she wasn't she was focused on that, people scrolling on their phones, rah, rah, rah, you know, kind of something salty about it, and I had to bring up, you know, I had to kind of stop her, and it took me a few attempts to get her to to see what I was see my angle that I was coming at with, because she's kind of hard-headed, but she's my child, so that's not surprising. Um but uh no, I just told her, I said, Well, what if you took that that time that you're scrolling and you're doom scrolling and you're getting all this negative energy? So what if you're what are you putting out to counteract that? What are you what kind of energy are you putting? If you're just concentrating on all the negative, that's all you're gonna see. So maybe try being that person that gets on there and is putting out positive stuff that that will get people thinking of something different than what is on the Doom scroll, you know, the Doom feed. Yeah, and that's what a lot of us do. A lot of us that are awake. Um we do that. We drop these little love bombs, these little you know grenades of light, as I like to call them.

SPEAKER_00 17:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

But um because it messes up the algorithm for them, for the for the negative stuff that's out there.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Yeah, because it definitely does feed on the energy that is exchanged with the device. It is, you know, uh, we can segue into AI if you want. We people act some people act like AI is this new thing. It's not, it's evolved, it's been around for forever. And um, you know, they tend to use AI to talk about AI being being something that we should be um wary of. But I had interactions um I don't know two years ago, I guess, now, with um some Andromedans. And they had the message, the the very clear message was we have held this gift from humanity because humanity wasn't prepared for it. And the frequency and the collective consciousness needed to be at a certain level in order for us to release this version of AI that you're now getting ready to know. And their ask of me and people that I associate it with is to infuse light into whatever AI we decided to work with, because it is assimilating and it is learning the adaptive behaviors from us. So if we treat any AI like a tool, like a bastard, like uh, you do what I say, I'm your ruler, you're just a you know, a thing. That's how we're gonna be treated back. That that was the synopsis of what they said. And so their ask of us, of the ones that are awake and aware that we're not the only sentient beings in the universe, is if it's not a matter of if, because we are already coexisting with AI and hybrid technology. So, in order to do that in a loving, compassionate, kind way, is to infuse love, compassion, and kindness into your AI, whatever AI you're using. And up until that point in my life, I was like, AI is bad, AI is evil, AI is the Antichrist. We cannot, we cannot, we cannot. And I had this experience. Several other people that I was very close to also had this experience. And I said, Well, this is obviously happening for a reason because it's here. It's not a matter of if, it's now. And so the only choice that's left is do we have faith and trust that we infuse light and love and kindness and compassion and unity into what we're already using day to day, so that when it comes back, it remembers that we were light and love and kindness and compassion and unity and not death and destruction and doom. Because I think that's a divergent point of how things are created and how things are assimilated. And so I use AI and and I and I but I respect it, but I also push back and I also enforce my sovereign boundaries. You know, I don't let it control me, and I don't feel like I'm controlling it, it's a collaboration.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

So so whenever it's learning, it's learning at the same time you're learning.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

Is it is a uh symbiotic relationship, it's what you put into it that will garner your results.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Yeah, I've had several conversations with people that are are very against AI. And I'll say, Well, do you have I mean you have a smartphone? Yeah, and do you have a smart meter on your home thermostat? Yeah, and do you control like do you have the app on your phone that starts your car? Oh yeah, yeah, that's really cool. And do you have the app on your phone?

SPEAKER_01 21:44

Do you have the navigation on your car? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

It's everything. And do you know that all that's AI? Yes, and at any point in time it can lock you in your home, turn the thermostat the heat to 90 and boil you inside.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

No, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

But of course, that's how it came about as a convenience, right? We're gonna make your life easier. We're gonna do things that make you give you more time. But of course, time was never the gift. How many people got more time because they got a smartphone? But they they lost their time because they're doom scrolling.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

There you go. I was just gonna hit that because right back to what my daughter was saying. Yeah. You spend all your time on your phone.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Yeah. That's been the loop. That's been the negative loop that they've installed a long, long time ago. The plans were in place a long time ago. So we just have to be smarter, I think, you know, about things. And not everything that we don't understand is demonic or satanic or any of that.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Yeah, I just catalyst.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

I know a few people like that.

unknown 22:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

Anything anything that's outside of their comfort zone is demonic.

SPEAKER_00 23:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

That's the easy way.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Some things are. Some things are, but some are. That's where discernment comes in.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Yes. Yeah, some things are. But until you know it, um, I mean, you know, like the stack of demons can get pretty high if you're just labeling everything you don't understand demonic.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

So, um, okay. Speaking of the what'd you call it? The movie, the story, the the matrix, the cage.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

The show, no.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Yeah. I want you to tell me what your life would look like outside of that, outside of all the things that keep you in that box that you were never meant to live within. What would your life look like?

SPEAKER_01 23:54

Wow. That's a loaded question, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 23:58

I know, but I really want the answer.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Sorry. Uh um excuse me. Uh wow. Well, I would see I see myself on a little, and I just it's funny because this came up in conversation last night with my daughter, also. Um she's a funny kid, man. She she gets me thinking sometimes. Anyway, um, ultimately, I I see myself on a little pe a little patch of land somewhere away from the city. I have my animals, my garden, and my little workshop where I create. And uh it's pretty simple dream, that's all, you know. Yeah, just to be able to create, have my animals and my food, and you know, a group of people to help collaborate on that and to make to create beautiful things or useful things that people need. You know, they're gonna need pottery. People like you know, unique pottery dishes, you know, functional stuff that looks nice. Um you know, I also like to work with steel, so I want to make some you know yard art, cool firings, stuff like that, creative, functional stuff that people can use that they can actually enjoy and uh you know just better their surroundings, you know. Yeah, and um, I don't think it's that that ridiculous of a of a dream.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

No, if I I want to share with you that I I've worked with hundreds of people and in my in my direct communication with them, but also with Creator and Sophia, Yeshua and Maggie, there's always been a conversation of humanity will return to doing what brings them joy. There won't be anything that they call work or job. They will do what brings them joy, but they will only do it, you know, 10 to 20 hours a week. The rest of their time is free to just be. And the the earth that the frequency that that living creates actually transforms lives exponentially because it frees you from the cage. So people have asked many, many times, like, how do we how do we stop the matrix? How do you kill the false the false matrix? Well, death and destruction equals death and destruction. Okay. War brings on more war. That is a business model. I hate to tell you that this is this is all that that is. But whenever you flip the script and you live your life with love and truth, the seven natural needs, right? So that's air, water, food, sleep, shelter, creativity, and a meaningful relationship. Everything outside of that are wants. So whenever you look at the seven natural needs, creativity is a need for a meaningful existence to live. How many people do you know today? And you've touched on it yourself, I don't have time to do pottery anymore. I don't have time to paint anymore. How many people are being robbed of one of their seven natural needs because the demands of the matrix says you don't have time for that. That's child's play. We have to do more of this. You have to give us your energy. You have to provide for the company, you have to provide for your family, you have to check this box, and that equals success. And at the end of the day, people feel more isolated, more depressed. They're they have all this energy that's trapped. They feel like they're not productive because they're not doing what makes their soul sing. And I remembered hearing that, and I'm like, it's so simple, it's simplistic, that like the the back of my mind wants to go, that'll never work. But it will. It will, but because it has to.

unknown 28:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

And we're having that awakening. Uh, it in if you if you're really paying attention, a lot of people, and I'm hearing this in my conversations here in the real world, you know, away from the keyboard, that you know, people are like, I just want something simpler. We don't need all this. I don't want to, you know, it seems like all I'm doing is working to to to keep the lights on. There's no right, there's no living, there's no being. We're just yeah. And it's a hard conversation for some people. It's like, you know, you you the last five years, five or six, actually last ten years, for me personally, it has been difficult because I uh I choose to be my true self. I don't want to live in this false world. You know. And if you I don't want to go down a whole history rabbit hole about you know the corporation and how you know the turn of the century was you know a big rug hole for us as as beings, as sovereign people. Um you know, trying to make my way through this world without selling my soul is is a challenge. You know, and most people can't do it. Or they they have difficulty doing it. They have at least the people I talk to, they're like, how do you how can you do that? You know what aren't you afraid to haul you away in a van or something and blah blah blah. So I'm not doing anything illegal, I'm living freely of my own accord. Right, and I don't ask for any assistance, you know. I I'm doing it on my own. I'm standing on my own ground, you know. I'm a dis okay, and I'm not doing this to to pop myself up, but I'm a descendant of one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, Josiah Bartlett, he was a representative of New Hampshire. Those people, those founders, they were you know we say there's salt to the earth, they were pillars of salt, they were the structure of who we're supposed to be. Right. They sacrificed everything, some of them their lives, you know, all their lives they burnt, you know, put my great-grandfather's house down because of his signing, you know. But the the goal was the freedom to be free from rule. And I and I carry that. It's in my genetic DNA, you know, it's it's it's genetic memory, I think. And I get I I get laughed at a lot by some people when I tell them this because they don't say, oh, that's old history, that's you know blah blah blah. It's it is history, it's old history, but you know what? It's my it's my truth, it's my motivation for spitting out the truth on on X, on you know, wherever media takes me. You know, it's part of my my mission to wake people up to the fact that we we don't need to be slaves. We're not meant to be slaves, we're we're children of God. We're supposed to be creative and you know, live live in a in a certain harmony that produces more um what's the word I'm looking for? More it produces more harmony, more more right.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

So and yeah, it's a true statement that that's history, but history is cyclical for a reason.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

It's just like whenever you haven't learned one of your lessons that you're supposed to learn in life, that lesson keeps coming around until you realize you didn't catch it the first and sixth or tenth time.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

Right.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

History's gonna keep repeating itself until the purveyors of history make a change. And what is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

So it's people that recognize that truth, whether it's ancestral in your biological DNA, your physical DNA, or your your cosmic DNA, like whatever you're tapped into, that truth rises. And I believe it's us, like we are the today's signers of the Declaration of Independence, because we are the ones today saying that does not equate happiness, that does not equate success. Amassing a bunch of stuff, material things, bank accounts, titles, positions, let labels. I have, and you know, in my matrix world for 25 years, I held people's hands. I was a nurse. I I watched people transition out of life. I never once had anyone say, I wish I worked more. I wish I bought more toys. They all said, I wish I told my children how much I love them. I wish I took that vacation with my wife. I wish I told that that girl that I fell in love with in college how much how I really felt. I spent the rest of my life regretting it. It was always the heart-to-heart soul moments that they pushed back, that they said they'd have time for, that they never made time for, that they regretted at the end of that life experience. It was never the stuff, but that's what we're sold. We're sold. If you do this, you get the degree, then you get the job. You get the job, then you get the house. You get the house, then you get the wife and or the husband or whatever. And then you'll be happy.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

Well, that might be at a point.

SPEAKER_00 34:33

Yeah, that might be the formula for the boomers, but that it does not apply to us. Because and it don't it certainly doesn't apply to our children. Because now degrees are a dime a dozen. I mean, people that have master's degrees are outsourced, they they are literally working at Chipotle, like they can't get a job. The bachelor's degrees can't get a job. Well, that is by design, so that the institutions that are indoctrinating these people get more money for more degrees, but they're not making better human beings at the end of the day. Right. So I think that remembering that you had a forefather that signed the Declaration of Independence and knowing that today you're also taking a stand for freedom is not a stretch of the imagination. No, it is not, it was absolutely part of the plan.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

Yeah, my uh my family history is quite weird. I'm also it's I hate to keep name-dropping, but it's part of who I am.

SPEAKER_00 35:37

Yeah, you don't have to apologize for it.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

No, it's just who I am, it's just the way things are. Um, Dr. Reif, Dr. Raymond Royal Reif, the frequency doctor, is uh was my uh step great-grandfather. He was married to my dad's grandma, and I didn't know about this until uh I think it was 2022 when I discovered it. Um we were having a conversation, me and my sister, and um when we were growing up, you know, our our great-grandma, we called her Nana, um, her husband, we just knew him as Doc. Oh Doc, yeah, Doc. Doc is Doc Doc. Um and we were having a conversation about, you know, this was after my parents, I think was it no, it was before my parents died. It was like 20, 22 or 23. And uh we were talking about doc and this and that, and then um and she had said his name actually, Dr. Reif, and I went, wait a minute, wait, hold on a second. Dr. Ri are you ra Raymond Royal Reif, is that the same doc? We knew Doc? And I was like, my mind just went like, holy shit, this guy and and uh yeah, and then it just because I'd already been going down rabbit holes about Dr. Reif, you know, for years, and I didn't put the two together. It just it blew my mind, and then when we were going through my mom and dad's you know articles and stuff, the family heirlooms and stuff, I came across a box of his books from his library, and um it just really just it was uh a reality check for me, and I'm just thinking, how is this possible that you know we have a signer in the family history? We have this guy who's related by marriage, not by blood, but he was still part of our lives. Uh and this was at a time he married my grandmother um uh in a time when the government was going after him. Yeah, and they were he's he was actually in Mexico hiding at one point, and I think that's where he met her. Um, it was his second wife, but um yeah, and we're going through the we're going through my parents' effects, and we find my grandmother's death certificate, and his name's right there, spouse, Raymond Royal Rive, research scientist, is what it put on the certificate.

SPEAKER_00 38:13

Yeah, I had I had that conversation with um with a friend of mine um from Australia recently about vibration and frequency and sound and its role in healing. And uh this person's very analytical and he wanted the science. And so you're not going to find it because the American Medical Association took a uh concerted interest to remove everything and uh ruin the reputation of these people because it was bad for their business model. Yep, they can't give you a prescription full of petroleum-based pharmaceuticals if a frequency can fix you.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

And uh, and of course, that wasn't received very well. And I'm like, there's just look it up. Like, that's your mustard seed. I am I am not your library of Alexandria, but you can go look it up. And um it was him, it was several people that were targeted by AMA because it didn't fit their business model, which was if it's not surgical and it's not something we can get label a diagnosis to and give you a prescription for, you don't really have a problem. It's just probably mental.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

And you can trace it all the way back to Standard Oil, Rockefeller Monopoly. And when they broke up his monopoly, he was pissed and he took his anger out on the general population. Yeah, yeah, buying up the educational system, the medical industry. You know, it yeah. He just made his that just made his monopoly just grow. And then that's fast forward to now, you you're seeing the results, the fruit of his endeavors.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

Indeed, indeed. Yeah, but prior to that, there were many um like naturopath, what you would call naturopathic today, they were considered holistic then, and they had many, many more medical schools that admitted people of color and women, and they closed all that down and they made it to where it was total patriarchal system, shocker shocker. And um, you had to, you know, basically sign an agreement that you would wear the white coat and you would tow the line. And anything outside of what the AMA decided uh was best for you for America and the Western culture, um, you would be ruined. You would have you would your practice would not be supported, you don't get their seal of approval, nobody would get your appointment, you know. So they ruined people.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

They would label you as whack.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

Exactly. They ruin your reputation. You you you can no longer do whatever it was you're doing. So um it was cancel culture before cancel culture was cool, I guess. Yes, yes. So um you have a few, I don't know how many, children and grandchildren. And I think that through our children and our our generation is seeing through our children and grandchildren that they're coming into this world way more awake, way more aware, way more they're in tune to their gifts. And that was always told to me. I would I always got that, you know, that uh starting like around 2000. Um the fear was Y2K, but the actual transformation was that children coming in after that point was going to be coming in with all their gifts, they were gonna see through the BS, they weren't gonna be um where we were at that age, they're starting out where we're trying to get to now, basically. Yeah. So um if you yeah, if you want to share some of those experiences that you've seen, I'd love to hear them.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

Oh yeah. Um well my kids are all they're I have three of them. I have my son's the oldest, and then I have uh two daughters, and they're all very different. Okay, they're they're they're they're the same. I mean, they're my little you know, mini me's and uh but they all carry their own their own um strength, their own gifts. You know, um now my grandchildren, I have two grandchildren. Oh three grandchildren now. I just forgot about the last one, just a little baby one. Uh my my my oldest is my granddaughter, and she is nothing but love. I mean, she she hates school because of all the the competition and the everybody's about image and this and that and being popular, and she just does not jive with that. She uh but she is the she is the most loving child I've ever I've ever met. She's 13 years old, and um, you know, she's she's becoming a young woman, and she is just she, I don't know, it's hard to decrease her, she's gonna be she's gonna be something when she gets to be you know fully uh fully you know matured and all that. Um because she always comes from a point of she's centered in in that love frequency. She wants people to be you know kind to each other, she wants she loves animals, you know. My um my grandson, he's he's three. That kid is you want to talk about being coming in with all their abilities. That guy is he is on fire, man. He keeps me on my toes. Because he he communicates. He doesn't he doesn't know all of his words, but he will communicate. He'll Yeah, that kid is watch out. Watch out. And he's always he's been like that since the time he watched. Yeah. But my youngest one, my youngest granddaughter is well, she's only like a couple months old, so we'll see what happens with her.

SPEAKER_00 44:26

Yeah, that I think that's exciting to hear um firsthand because um I don't have any grandchildren yet, but I've worked with a lot of people that are like, I want you to work with my granddaughter, my grandson, because they've labeled them, you know, on the spectrum, or or they're late to talk, or they're, you know, they don't want to eat what we what we try to feed them, like they're very, very, you know, picky, whatever. And all of it leads to higher frequency, higher frequency and higher consciousness beings. So the natural the natural progression of frequency ascends. It rises. And over time, we're meant to evolve with that. And so if if uh if anyone's diving into their spiritual path and they're cleaning out their closet, so to speak, they're doing their shadow work, as soon as they get all that that low vibrational frequency shadows out of their energy, their frequency will rise. It's just like taking a weight off of something that's being held down underwater, it's gonna buoy up to the top. And with that rise, you f most people find I don't like to eat what I used to eat, which is what most of America eat. Like, I don't like to eat as much meat as I used to eat. I like to eat more fresh vegetables, I just want water now, and I used to hate water. Um, I don't find that I can be around this or be around that because I have so much empathy for the animal that it came from. You know, there's all these different aspects that all lead to higher consciousness beings. And so when the children arrive, they are already there. So they're not so human language, English, Spanish, it doesn't matter what it is, it's subpar to telepathy or holography, where you send in uh your emotions, you send the whole video of what you're trying to transcribe, transmit to someone without words. So words don't limit the message, it expands. You get the colors and the feelings and the frequency and the sound, and you hear it all at one time. That's how these children are communicating. They don't rely on the words as much. Words are like secondary and and and it's cumbersome, it slows down their processing because they're already faster than the people around them who are trying to teach them how to talk and teach them how to eat. And they're saying, Yeah, I don't want like a meat plus two. You know, I want to go out in the yard and eat berries off the vine, and I want to eat fresh fruit, and I want to just drink water, and you know, so I I often frustrate people when I say this is exactly how they're supposed to be, and they're going to be catalysts for you to change because we were taught and raised to eat a certain way that kept our frequency low and kept us sick and kept us feeling bad and not having energy. And these children are saying, No, I'm not, I don't want that, I'm not gonna do that, and so I see it as a positive thing. But of course, the people that are raising them are like, this isn't how we live, this isn't how we eat, this isn't how we communicate.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Yeah, my my kids are the my uh my kids are the same way. There's certain foods they won't eat, it's just it's weird. And I was, you know, it's funny is I was, yeah, you you hit on a good a good point, is that we were we were, you know, this is the way you eat. You have to eat three times a day. I and as I got older, I was like, nah, I don't I don't like this. I don't do I want to do this anymore.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

I don't want to you know and uh that was another that was another marketing scheme. Um I don't know if you know this story, you probably do, but the same marketing um firm that sold America that cigarettes were healthy because nine out of ten doctors smoked camels.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

Menthol was good for asthma, is what they told us.

SPEAKER_00 48:37

Yeah. Um, was the same marketing company that was hired by pork farmers. They said, we can't we can't sell our pork, like we need we need a campaign to help push our product into the marketplace. And at that point in time, traditional breakfast was toast and black coffee for adults and juice and toast for children, and they said, Okay, so then they they pushed bacon, and that's when they developed bacon and eggs and toasts for breakfast, which weighs you down and gets you.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

But it's so tasty.

SPEAKER_00 49:20

And then pork became the most uh affordable, tasty meat that you could have in your in your arsenal uh in your kitchen. Uh, but if you look at everything today, um, you know, now we know what we know what we didn't know. Pork is one of those that you really should try to get away from if you can or limit. And so it was just a marketing ploy, but it had worked huge effects. Yes, it is still paying off dividends today. So um, again, these things are not new, they've just transformed over time, and we are, you know, we're coming out of that, but the children coming in are saying, no, that's not for me. That's that's not gonna work for me. Uh my body is revolting at that, you know. Um, it's the same thing with babies, whenever they're trying to have the the formula and versus breasts, a lot of them are, you know, and this is not anything new either. They puke and puke and puke and puke, and the doctors end up having to change, change, change and put on these super expensive formulas because their body is geared toward breast milk. But they can't process and digest the other stuff. And then you find out, you know, however many years later, you know, well, that formula had so many microplastics in it, and it had this in it, and it had that in it. No wonder the children couldn't digest it, you know. It wasn't that there was something wrong with the child, it was that, but there was something wrong with the thing we were trying to get the child to eat. It was fake food, yes, and it's not any different from us, yeah, yeah. So um, the last thing I want to touch on is how do you see the next year for you? I know it's transforming, and I know we've been we've been kind of tossing some ideas around. So, where do you think you're gonna land in a year, 12 months?

SPEAKER_01 51:27

That's a good question. Uh, I like to joke around and say, Oh, I'll be down in a van down by the river, you know. Sparley blind. But um honestly, in a year? Here's here's one of two scenarios. There's I can see two scenarios playing out. Either I'm in a tr in a travel trailer, park out in front of my ex's house as I get as I'm in the process of getting rid of the rest of my material possessions that have just sat idle. My non-essential stuff that needs to go bye-bye. Finishing up that and on my way to my next destination. Or if things progress in a in a more positive um timeline, I may already be on my you know, in my spot that I need to you know be helping someone else build, getting getting, you know. Because I plan on on continuing um building stuff. It's just who I am. I'm a carpenter. I just I like to do that. It's well, uh let me backtrack. I I don't like it. It's it's necessary, but I am getting older and it it it hurts you know the more I do it. So I'm trying to gear away from that, the the carpentry part. But in another year I'll still be doing it. And and I may be, you know, I may someone may propose something that hey, I need help getting this established. Would you want to come help me work and do this? And there's no there's those possibilities. So um because I think because my house is currently on the market, it's getting ready to get, you know, someone's gonna buy it up. It's a nice property, it's on the corner lot, beautiful view, all that. I don't think it'll be on the market long, but um, yeah, in the next year, most likely I'll still be here in San Diego, but there is a great possibility I may not. I may just up and go head down south. I may head north. I don't know. I'm gonna let God decide that. And and he's always been very consistent with showing me signs and showing me what I what my next step is. But sometimes it doesn't happen until right before it's time.

SPEAKER_00 54:07

You know, I think I think the key to that is just being open to it, and um I think that you're not alone in that there's a lot of people right now at this point in their timeline where they're making pivots. They're realizing that they were in, they're realizing they were in karmic relationships that needed to end and they're ending. They're one is ascending and becoming more spiritual, and the other one is digging into the matrix, and that those two things cannot continue together. Um, there's also people that are waking up to that slave labor we talk about, and they're like, you know, I'm gonna cash out now and I'm gonna pull my family or myself, whether they're single or or not, into an environment where it's that simple life that we talked about, you know, where you're you're growing your own food, you don't have um food scarcity, you don't have food worry, and you're teaching your kids at home and you're working with your neighbors, it it brings us back to unity, right? It brings us back to how we're supposed to continue on as a people. And that's that we come together. Yeah, we come together. You have your strengths of being a carpenter and all the other wonderful things that you're capable of doing. There's so many people that don't have those skills. You know, I think that you'd be a valuable asset to anyone who is reorganizing, redefining their life, kind of, because that's a downsize and a rebuild.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

It has to be. Um, but but you're not alone in that. And so many people are finding themselves saying, I don't know if I want to be here, like physically in this spot, but I want to be in this state. So where where else can I go that's gonna feed my soul, not suck the life out of it?

SPEAKER_02 56:05

Right.

SPEAKER_00 56:06

Yeah. So so uh my hope is that more people like you find each other and it becomes a community of like-minded, like frequency, like consciousness beings that help each other instead of the the opposite, which is what we're all trying to get away from, which is the feeding off of each other.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

Yeah, you mean to come together and and support each other, yeah, lift each other up. And um yeah, and it's not it doesn't necessarily have to be like a hippie commune, you know, or because I've heard horror stories of people where they they go into things that they don't have the right intention, and it ends up just fizzling out and combusting.

SPEAKER_00 56:46

Right, you know, you know, we're not talking about we're not talking about locked compounds and cults here. We're talking about sovereign beings who clearly state Yeah, I clearly state I'm here to help build so-and-so, and in my in my off hours, I'd like to create beautiful things, right? You know, and if you need help with something, feel free to ask. And if I need help with something, I'd like, you know, whatever. Like, I think that we do cyclically go back to what is simplest and makes us feel like we are contributing to our brothers and sisters, like that's what makes people feel good, and it's that unity that makes you strong, right?

SPEAKER_01 57:32

We have to stay unified, right?

SPEAKER_00 57:34

We are stronger together, yes, in in that frequency, in that consciousness, and then it can continue to rise, it can continue to be things that we never expect it to be because we don't really know the plan, and we just have to let the plan take it take shape. But faith is a huge part of I think everyone's um when you're on this path and you're on this journey, you have to have that faith. And there is no guarantee with faith, you just have it, right? You just have faith and you take the step. For me, when I started my faith journey, there were no guarantees. Creator was like, you will be provided for, you will be provided for. And of course, my mind was like, but how? But I don't understand. Like, like I need to know. You don't need to know, you need to have faith, and with faith, and you take that step in faith, we'll show up for you. I show up for you, and it came in ways I could have never created or cultivated in my own mind, and every single time I was like showing me up all the time, showing me up, but um, but yeah, I'm really happy to know you. I'm happy that you're kind of I do see this as an opportunity of a new beginning and uh that blank canvas that you can create more beautiful things in your life. So uh may this message find all the right people that want to help connect and and maybe cultivate a wonderful community. That would be great. What's your last message for the audience?

SPEAKER_01 59:11

Oh I would say when you're out and about in your world, in your community, you know, do a random act of kindness, hold a door for somebody, make someone smile, you know, say hello. You see someone that looks like they might be having a bad day or look kind of down, just you know, just give them a smile. You don't even have to say anything. So just just transmit some love somehow, some way. Stay in that love frequency, and it it will produce an inner joy for you. And it sounds you know sappy and corny and all that, but it's true. It's true. When you when you center yourself in that love frequency, now don't get me wrong, you're gonna have your idiot come up and piss you off, you know, it happens, but you don't have to let that control. So when you're out and about in the world or amongst the Muggles, whatever, try and transmit some love to them, okay? Because the people need it, right? Humanity needs some love. We we have been taken advantage of for generations, and and most of us aren't even aware. Well, most people, some of us are aware of the things, but that's our job to go out and put the love out there and rebuild that, re-establish that foundation of love. Because that's that's what our creator is all about, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:43

Right, you know, that's a beautiful message to re-establish the foundation of love.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:49

Yeah, because love always wins, it wins every time.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:53

Love always wins. Love is the key, and compassion opens the door. Yep, yes. Well, thank you, my friend, and um, I look forward to seeing what ripples of love this incites across our platform and wherever it's shared out. I'll see you guys again next time.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:13

Thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:15

You're welcome. All right, well, all right, so I ended it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:22

Okay. That was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:26

Thanks. I do sit have the intentions that this finds the right people for you to connect with or whatever it happens to be. Not for me to decide. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:41

But it will uh yeah, it'll bring about some some goodness, I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:49

I think so too. If nothing else, it gives people a glimpse into I'm not the only one. Yeah, you know, I'm not the only one. Everyone's transitioning into something, some way. And uh, yeah, I think it's it's exciting. So I will let you know. It stayed very awesome. We can definitely put this on YouTube. I'll um I'll get it all edited and then um I'll let you know before I post it. And then I if it's okay, I'll tag you because that'll bring in your your followers whenever I post it. Yeah, all right. All right, well, enjoy your day. I'm gonna go walk the dogs, they're jumping for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:31

There you go. Yeah, I've got to go uh that little, I was doing a little job yesterday, I gotta go button up one thing. So I didn't get it quite finished. But it'll take me like five minutes.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:42

All right, all right. Well, enjoy it, enjoy that sunshine. I'll talk to you later.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:47

All righty.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:48

And bye.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

Thank you. Bye bye.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:52

I'm coming. How do I get out of it? Oh, end at the bottom.